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Speaker 1: All right, thank you Scott Shannon, and thanks to all

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Speaker 1: of you for being with us. Here's our toll free number.

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Speaker 1: It is eight hundred and ninety four one sean if

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. All

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Speaker 1: eyes now really very quickly beginning to switch to the

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Speaker 1: state of New Hampshire, where the first primary takes place

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Speaker 1: for the Republican Party. It is Look, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the Real Clear Politics average, it's you get one number,

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Speaker 1: but we're getting some you know, we're getting some other

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Speaker 1: numbers coming in at a pretty fast clip. Boston Globe

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Speaker 1: Suffolk poll Trump sixteen up sixteen. That was through yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The Real Clear Politics average has Trump up by thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of what poll you look at. The CNN poll

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Speaker 1: has them up by seven. You've got another poll Suffing USA,

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Speaker 1: you know, had a pretty commanding lead by Donald Trump. There,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of variation. Let's go with the

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Speaker 1: Real Clear Politics average of thirteen. Here's what if you

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Speaker 1: watch New Hampshire. There's certain things that I've never liked

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Speaker 1: about how they run their primaries. I don't like the

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Speaker 1: fact that Democrats can involve themselves by switching to be

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Speaker 1: the Republican primary. When you get the help of Democrats

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Speaker 1: and independence. In that case, NICKI Haley does a lot better.

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Speaker 1: And for example, among New Hampshire Independence, Haley would be

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Speaker 1: Trump by forty four to thirty eight. So that's New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the system you have. It's not

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Speaker 1: the one you wish you have. I don't like the

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Speaker 1: idea that people get to pick and choose and decide.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, a new Suffolk University Boston Globe Tracking poll

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Speaker 1: released this morning shows Donald Trump at fifty Helly at

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Speaker 1: going to move to South Carolina. That was his first

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Speaker 1: stop after Iowa, where he came in second. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: this was a survey of five hundred likely Republican primary voters,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, they they got nailed at in Iowa,

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Speaker 1: so I mean certainly they're they're credible. Among independents, though,

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Speaker 1: while Trump leads among Republicans sixty one to twenty four percent,

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Speaker 1: which leads to the current poll of fifty to thirty

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Speaker 1: four in their recent poll. And they are varying polls,

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Speaker 1: some as having Trump up as high as twenty, some

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Speaker 1: that they won't even listed on Real Clear Politics because

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Speaker 1: they don't trust the credibility that had a dead even

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Speaker 1: people think. It's definitely not going to be a fifty

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Speaker 1: two the system, this primary system. But among those that

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire in an open primary, you know, Haley would

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire's Secretary of State's office. Now, is Nicky am

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Speaker 1: I blaming Nikki Haley in any way for this? No?

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Speaker 1: But it's happening, and it's been the way New Hampshire

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Speaker 1: certainly one way to try and game the system and

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Speaker 1: today later on Senator Ram Paul. I mean he eviscerates

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Speaker 1: So Governor Chris Sununu and New Hampshire's been probably the

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Speaker 1: to Neil Cavuto, it's troubling that so many of Nicki

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Speaker 1: And you know, you know, Governor, what they're saying is

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Speaker 1: they would support that Democrat, they would support Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: Republican Party together after the primary. That always happens regardless

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Speaker 1: turn from Joe Biden. It's just, you know, it's Nicki

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Speaker 1: Halley now urging voters to avoid another Trump Biden nightmare.

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Speaker 1: I mean those are her words, but you know, Republican

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Speaker 1: voters out there think that Donald Trump's presidency was a nightmare. No,

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Speaker 1: I think the presidency that's a nightmare is the one

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Speaker 1: that's happening now. But you know, it just I just

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Speaker 1: hate when games are played and when there's loopholes and

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Speaker 1: people have agendas and they use that agenda to you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't see myself ever running for office

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Speaker 1: Democrats to switch their party ticket to vote for me,

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Speaker 1: to push me over the top. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: Coming up the other news of the day straight Ahead,

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Speaker 1: a lot on Hunter and Joe straight Ahead