Speaker 1: No case.
Speaker 2: No case ever, I can't do it. Why can't you?
Speaker 1: This is my second most expensive possession.
Speaker 2: This brother gen.
Speaker 3: Z man, you can't see you bought an expensive possession
Speaker 3: that you're hiding.
Speaker 1: My little brother doesn't use a case either, and and
Speaker 1: he can't afford it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just feel like the phone is beautiful, so like,
Speaker 2: why cover it up?
Speaker 1: That's what we're different. I don't even think the ship.
Speaker 3: Can really okay to me, I'm like, this is one
Speaker 3: of the best iPhones I've seen, and then the orange
Speaker 3: color is dope.
Speaker 2: The very idea of it breaking scares me so much
Speaker 2: that I will protect it in dukie. I will literally
Speaker 2: code my phone in dukie to keep this from shattering.
Speaker 1: If that gives another year on it, Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: think about it. I need this.
Speaker 3: I was really folder and unnecessary and so wrong in
Speaker 3: any ways.
Speaker 1: Chips in yours a quality bears are racist. The layer
Speaker 1: owes the money, many turning stuff. I can't tell me nothing.
Speaker 1: God may haig may hi.
Speaker 2: There it is there.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: Welcome ladies and gentlemen, little mama and gentiles alike. Welcome
Speaker 2: to another phenomenal episode. And my mama told.
Speaker 1: Me the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets
Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2: And we finally work to prove absolutely nothing that you need.
Speaker 2: It will not help. It ain't gonna help. If you're
Speaker 2: coming here for help, that is your mistake. And while
Speaker 2: we're on the subject, I've been wanting to talk to
Speaker 2: you about this and mainly them. I want to address
Speaker 2: this with them while you're here. Stop threatening to take
Speaker 2: our microphones away. It's enough.
Speaker 1: That'sn't number one on the internet.
Speaker 2: Take the mics away, gotta take the mics away.
Speaker 1: You're gonna just do this in a car. You're gonna
Speaker 1: give a fuck about this microphone.
Speaker 2: This is how we talk. This is just it.
Speaker 1: This is what you signed up.
Speaker 2: We are not missing never you know why. This is
Speaker 2: what we signed up to do together.
Speaker 1: We didn't fuck up.
Speaker 2: You don't get it, and that's totally okay.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: This wasn't for you. We wish you never found this video.
Speaker 2: But you cannot threaten to take our microphones away when
Speaker 2: we're goddamn nailing it every fucking week.
Speaker 1: We are going too hard, we're going crazy. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't have these.
Speaker 2: If you like what we do.
Speaker 1: But then sometimes yeah, that's that's a good caveat. If
Speaker 1: you don't like what you then then probably all this.
Speaker 1: If you think it's true, stay away from here. I'm
Speaker 1: from here.
Speaker 2: Don't come back.
Speaker 1: Then we're then we are just chatting about nothing.
Speaker 2: Niggas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do these niggas got uncles if you're short? Just
Speaker 1: saying it.
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a real one. Very recently, and that one
Speaker 2: did sting.
Speaker 1: That one did hurt our feelings because people, this isn't
Speaker 1: like a news podcast, bro, And then they're like, this
Speaker 1: is actually in.
Speaker 2: We're not helping, man.
Speaker 1: We don't even we don't even like you.
Speaker 2: Our guest today is I would say, dramatically unprepared for this.
Speaker 1: No, you're doing that already.
Speaker 2: You're doing You're gonna nail it because you you are
Speaker 2: so so much more reasonable than either of us. We're
Speaker 2: so excited that you're here. A a talent of phenom,
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard in
Speaker 2: real life. Wow, just walking around set you sing and
Speaker 2: I go, God, damn, this motherfucker is a monster. Thank you.
Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. The talent on this man. You know him,
Speaker 2: you know him from I'm a Virgo. You know him
Speaker 2: from MJ the musical God damn this this man plays Michael.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 2: This man played Michael. Y'all, and you know, most importantly
Speaker 2: from the upcoming series Barbershop. He is one of the
Speaker 2: stars of the new barber Shop on Prime. Give it up,
Speaker 2: Give it up, Bret Gray, y'all.
Speaker 3: Respect, a lot of respect, A lot of respect, a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with that one. You don't know.
Speaker 1: For me, that really hurt my feelings.
Speaker 2: Really, twenty nine.
Speaker 1: You had never seen Cool Runnings?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry?
Speaker 1: What? Wow?
Speaker 2: What's that mean?
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 2: What year did that come out?
Speaker 1: Nigga?
Speaker 2: I'll fight you years did that come out?
Speaker 1: Twenty nine is old enough to have seen Cool Running
Speaker 1: over there. It probably came out. It probably came out
Speaker 1: in like ninety five.
Speaker 2: Oh so I was one. So that I've seen.
Speaker 1: I've seen movies that came out in nineteen eighty six?
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with?
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with? I think that is a generation gap.
Speaker 1: But I've been thinking this lately.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, stuff moved from like what y'all have
Speaker 3: tapes to look how these and then well, I'm just
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I wasn't I didn't never.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would say that tapes for me, we were
Speaker 2: very formative. Yeah, we never experienced the tape.
Speaker 3: I had a few tapes. Okay, you know we're talking
Speaker 3: about Rats or video vhs.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you had a rug Rats orange cassette.
Speaker 3: Had an orange cassette yeah from rug Rats? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and then after that it kind of.
Speaker 1: It went to DVD.
Speaker 2: DVD.
Speaker 1: Cool Runnings is on DVD.
Speaker 2: Cool Runnings. I guess my question for you is, are
Speaker 2: you familiar with the catalog the works of Leon Leon?
Speaker 2: What about Dougie Doug Doug e Freshlik Yoga Yoga Malik yoga?
Speaker 2: Okay from Why Did I Get Married? That is what
Speaker 2: you know him from, and that is unfortunate for me. Okay,
Speaker 2: don't undercover though that should be. I think that is
Speaker 2: what we all love him for. Everything else is work.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, Cool Runnings is a Disney movie. You love
Speaker 1: Disney about Jamaican Bob's Letters, starring John Candy.
Speaker 2: Interesting, it's crazy that Disney. Yeah, it's a really important
Speaker 2: film because I have.
Speaker 1: You seen the other Disney sports movies, kids sports movies
Speaker 1: like The Mighty Ducks, the Sad Lot, the Big Green,
Speaker 1: Let's go keep going. I don't know any other.
Speaker 2: I saw Wendy wu oh, the about the.
Speaker 1: Woman.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I saw Luckily Irish.
Speaker 1: That's what Irish down there for me?
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Johnny Tsunami? You've seen luck of the Irish,
Speaker 1: but not john that's not even We're not even talking
Speaker 1: different time periods.
Speaker 2: Now whoa, you just really had a way. What's Johnny
Speaker 2: Tsunami about?
Speaker 1: Go big or go home? The famous J Jackson, famous
Speaker 1: J Jackson Brown people snowboarding must not be that famous.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sorry, that wasn't towards you. But that wasn't
Speaker 2: towards you. Johnson was a button.
Speaker 1: That hold around. You're disgusting. We're going to kill you.
Speaker 1: Give me two hundred dollars. He's dead.
Speaker 2: I know Doctor Phillis. I did see Doctor phild before.
Speaker 2: You haven't seen Doctor phil Thank god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good show.
Speaker 2: That's actually more important to the things that we like
Speaker 2: to discuss on the show. Yeah, okay, that's scary even more.
Speaker 2: Disney don't really come up as much as no, we.
Speaker 1: Yeah we don't really. I don't really consume a lot
Speaker 1: of their contents anymore. But they were, they were they
Speaker 1: were there for me in some tough time. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: really covered a lot of basest. Goat is that Disney?
Speaker 2: No, that's Steph Curry baby step Oh yeah, Caleb's in
Speaker 2: there there you go.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: You came to us with a conspiracy theory that I'm
Speaker 2: excited about this. This is a fun one. You said,
Speaker 2: my mama told me.
Speaker 1: Robots are racist.
Speaker 2: Yes, I will say I picked this off a list.
Speaker 2: That's that's absolutely. I feel like I have an argument here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, First there's some questions I must ask when
Speaker 3: you say robot, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Oh, interesting are you?
Speaker 3: Because there's like a roomba, you know, and then there's
Speaker 3: like the humanoid AI robot that can walk around and
Speaker 3: pick up boxes, and then there's like, you know, the
Speaker 3: machine that makes the parts for the cars that has
Speaker 3: new AI features exactly.
Speaker 2: And you're saying that that that weird arm that assembles
Speaker 2: cars isn't like punching niggas in the face.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, which what genre robots are you?
Speaker 3: Because when I think robots, I think like, have you
Speaker 3: guys ever seen X Machina? Of course that's what I
Speaker 3: think I think of, like intelligent, like we would have
Speaker 3: to touring test this robots.
Speaker 1: So you're almost talking about robots that we are not
Speaker 1: yet interacting with in a regular.
Speaker 3: Not yet, but they're on the way. Like I just
Speaker 3: saw a robot that did a backflip the other day.
Speaker 3: I just saw Cardi b interact with a humanoid robot.
Speaker 3: I saw Will Smith talk to a robot. I think
Speaker 3: that was a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: That wasn't funny. That wasn't good.
Speaker 1: Great, that was not good.
Speaker 2: That would be no Smith Sand. This is harmful. I
Speaker 2: feeling my blood, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, but you just don't feel about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's my man? Man? We hung out one time.
Speaker 2: I don't believe you at all. I got a video
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: His wife's name, Okay, anyway, uh yeah, I just feel
Speaker 3: like there are these robots that are going to be
Speaker 3: sort of like humans.
Speaker 2: Those are the ones I'm that I have the arguments.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's due to like a programming situation?
Speaker 3: Well, like, okay, if you think about robots and you
Speaker 3: think about AI and how intelligent it has to be
Speaker 3: in order to function in a cognizant way, then it
Speaker 3: automatically can see your face, detect your skin color, and
Speaker 3: thus it already knows the history of everyone your skin
Speaker 3: color in the back of it's programming. It already can
Speaker 3: tell just by looking at you what racial whether it.
Speaker 1: Uses it, and the robots are going to be racist.
Speaker 3: So here's the other part about racism, right, because it
Speaker 3: also plot. It also technically has to do with like
Speaker 3: an institutional like underpinning of another person. So like if
Speaker 3: the robots are in like if the robots are like
Speaker 3: now hiring managers, I do think that it could be
Speaker 3: racist because it can go in your history, detect who
Speaker 3: you are, what you've come from, what you've done, whatever,
Speaker 3: and decide based on a lot of different factors. However,
Speaker 3: if they're not in positions of power, I think they're
Speaker 3: more so racist towards the entire human race because to know.
Speaker 2: That you're human, that's just like anti human. Well, it's
Speaker 2: human a race.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about it on the whole, then there's
Speaker 1: no divisions, right unless you're a robot. If it just
Speaker 1: doesn't like people, we should kill them.
Speaker 2: Anyway, because if it's not human, I think they keep
Speaker 2: selling us they don't like people, and we keep being like, ah,
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: They we're throwing their brothers in the like do you
Speaker 1: remember them scooters hit Austin? I did summer.
Speaker 2: I don't think they have the capacity to like, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's actually what survival for the
Speaker 2: Earth is about, you know what I mean? Like, I
Speaker 2: think like is a specifically human sort of like praying
Speaker 2: that other species don't that are sustaining this planet, not
Speaker 2: just like leeching off of it, don't subscribe to This
Speaker 2: isn't an issue of like, this is the issue of survival, and.
Speaker 1: I think break it down to data and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't like us because we're the most destructive.
Speaker 2: We are literally on this planet.
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not. It's not as if the issue and
Speaker 2: also their creators.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yourmone of course, but not in a way
Speaker 3: that I would want to destroy.
Speaker 1: Day it does.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess a robot needing to survive, I would think
Speaker 3: that it would think it would also need humans because
Speaker 3: at a certain point there needs to be maintenance, there
Speaker 3: needs to be updates, there needs to be advances technologically.
Speaker 1: But doesn't that get to the point where it does
Speaker 1: that itself?
Speaker 2: But can it do it to itself. I think. I
Speaker 2: think if you remove humans from the experience, the need
Speaker 2: to be humanoid no longer matters. Agree, So then they
Speaker 2: are maintenance. Their evolution can go beyond whatever the human
Speaker 2: form is. Like, I think they do better without us
Speaker 2: than they would with us. Yeah, I think we would
Speaker 2: keep making them want to look like us, and then
Speaker 2: they might be like, bro, why wouldn't why wouldn't we
Speaker 2: have six legs the whole time.
Speaker 1: This doesn't even bipedal whatever, this isn't even.
Speaker 3: Like Okay, imagine they want to roll right now, they
Speaker 3: have to go manufacture the steel and then haul it
Speaker 3: and then design it and then cut it.
Speaker 1: And then that's the first place they started to take over,
Speaker 1: right I think that's like where they're going to.
Speaker 2: I think they've already taken over manufacturing.
Speaker 3: But like they would need us, They would need us
Speaker 3: for certain elements of these processes.
Speaker 2: They don't need no kisses. They don't need to tell you.
Speaker 3: They take out their chip and be like deactivated and
Speaker 3: then put in a new one.
Speaker 2: But they wouldn't trust the other robot to do it,
Speaker 2: because yeah, that's a human problem.
Speaker 1: They well, I assume it would be within whatever their
Speaker 1: operating system.
Speaker 3: How does one robot know that you're going to deactivate
Speaker 3: me and actually put the chip in instead of actually
Speaker 3: leave me deactivated activating because there's no One robot has
Speaker 3: different ideas than the other robot.
Speaker 1: But now, are you're still talking like a person?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. They're not replacing us.
Speaker 3: Think about this, right, the robot that's bipedle and then
Speaker 3: the robot that is rolling already. You don't think the
Speaker 3: robot that's rolling already, knowing that it's more efficient, is
Speaker 3: going to help the bipedal robot who looks like a human.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think that that's like a
Speaker 1: very human way to like help for like, like we're
Speaker 1: putting all this ship onto it. That's just numbers, right,
Speaker 1: it's binary, it's one zeros.
Speaker 2: And I think that the robot that's being put down
Speaker 2: the way you're looking at it, I like, oh, my
Speaker 2: life is being ended. It doesn't give a fuck, doesn't
Speaker 2: have a life.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: But if it's driving from survival, then whether it has
Speaker 2: a light.
Speaker 3: Or not, it's aware of its own consciousness.
Speaker 2: I think it's aware. I don't. I don't believe it
Speaker 2: has a conscious That's.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at, because if it's now we're talking
Speaker 1: about a new type of like actual being as opposed
Speaker 1: to just like.
Speaker 2: But it is a new type of actual being because.
Speaker 1: Right now I think it's a robot.
Speaker 3: With AI because it's constantly learning and constantly growing and
Speaker 3: constantly trying to understand us. Then it technically That's why
Speaker 3: I said, if it was racist in any way outside
Speaker 3: of a position of power, it will be racist towards
Speaker 3: the entire human race because by building something sentient that's
Speaker 3: actually not, you actually do separate humans from now androids,
Speaker 3: and that is now the two different races of sentient
Speaker 3: being is like a soul or consciousness.
Speaker 1: Or a lot more efficient than the other one.
Speaker 2: It's a very termination.
Speaker 3: Because of a robot can't reproduce, so it's not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Can build another one that's reproduction, but it can't like
Speaker 2: just reproduce naturally. But I don't think it desires that.
Speaker 2: I guess it's my point. Well, if it needs numbers,
Speaker 2: it would because survival.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you could probably can make a new
Speaker 1: row bought at a faster more efficient rate than I
Speaker 1: think nine months to make a baby. And you know
Speaker 1: a little bit of runway. Maybe you got to get
Speaker 1: your health again what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's six
Speaker 1: months for that shit to even stick. Now we're at
Speaker 1: fifteen months for one.
Speaker 2: Coming in a lady is a mistake. We say all
Speaker 2: the time. In my house, we scream it from the
Speaker 2: mountain top. Take the mics away. You can't say that,
Speaker 2: just say that alone. You leave my microphone alone. This
Speaker 2: is the Black Queen. I protect mercy.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I do think the the premise that we sometimes put
Speaker 2: on a I is very much not what they're what
Speaker 2: it is functioning under. I also think, and I've been
Speaker 2: reading about this quite a bit, that they are are
Speaker 2: a lot. There's a lot of evidence to prove that
Speaker 2: there are premise of what AI is is not anywhere
Speaker 2: near where they have this ship right now.
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen some ship about that too, Like
Speaker 1: it's like and obviously it creates a panic in people.
Speaker 1: So I think that it's this guy. You know, we're
Speaker 1: all looking for God anyways all the time.
Speaker 2: It's like easy to be like and they're selling it
Speaker 2: that way, like this ship can already do all the
Speaker 2: things you need to do if you just give it
Speaker 2: the keys from.
Speaker 1: Dude in Sri Lanka shout to Zach Fox.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, that did the podcast and came on and
Speaker 5: was saying that he believes that African children are manning
Speaker 5: like way mos all the self driving vehicles across Uh
Speaker 5: where am I listen?
Speaker 1: Listen?
Speaker 2: When we were in here, of course we were being silly, Okay,
Speaker 2: I was, I was fucking it was still it was
Speaker 2: still living in a place of whimsy when we were
Speaker 2: talking about it. And not a week ago it was
Speaker 2: revealed that it is men in the Philippines that are
Speaker 2: manning the way moos around fucking town. Fact check this
Speaker 2: in the comments.
Speaker 1: I want to leave, bro, They've been sending emails all week.
Speaker 1: Black Fox was right. David's beautiful. It's like crazy. It's
Speaker 1: keep going, keep growing, keep going, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 2: Self driving. They are not. They are not self driving
Speaker 2: in the way that they say.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: They had and they said this in front of Congress.
Speaker 2: This ain't like some oh they slipped up on a podcast.
Speaker 2: They weren't hanging out with us when they said it.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: This is a very legitimate resource. Wow, yeah, it's it's not.
Speaker 1: I think that there's like a world that they're projecting
Speaker 1: for like rich people, and then there's like how the
Speaker 1: entire world works, and it's like the gap is a
Speaker 1: lot bigger. And then they would want because you've been
Speaker 1: to like a have you been like a poor nation before,
Speaker 1: like a place poorer than we we a call first
Speaker 1: world or whatever?
Speaker 2: Right, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: You should go Yeah, you should go check it out, sure,
Speaker 1: and just see like the different because it's like because
Speaker 1: when you go somewhere then you're just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't whatever they're talking about in Austin, Texas, Right,
Speaker 1: it's not going on in Gianman Nimikoro District, Cono sier Leone.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, it's like it's like
Speaker 1: the distance is very bad, and they know they can
Speaker 1: do whatever the fuck they want over there. They know
Speaker 1: they got people over in the Philippines driving your ship
Speaker 1: and what do you care about?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, there's nobody to come check
Speaker 2: on you. Yeah, we are going to run a train
Speaker 2: on this this little cony kind of way of saying
Speaker 2: that how they say it. Wow, that's how Donald Trump talk.
Speaker 2: Take the mics away, that's his classic locker room tall.
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos came, Bill Gates came, Mark Zuckerberg came. Many
Speaker 1: of them came numerous times. The bankers have all come.
Speaker 1: Everybody's coming.
Speaker 2: Well played good. That was pretty good. Do you Brett
Speaker 2: when you have you guys seen X Machina?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Of course. Did you remember at the end of the
Speaker 2: movie when the robot leaves and she decides that she's
Speaker 2: going to assimilate into society.
Speaker 1: Movie that's not based on a movie.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just predicting the capabilities of where these
Speaker 2: things could go, because like they had cell phones on
Speaker 2: Star Trek, so of course at that point in time,
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, it's never going to get that far,
Speaker 2: And now we have I don't even have a case
Speaker 2: on my phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're free.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that, I like, we can
Speaker 3: touch a screen where like you might have seen that
Speaker 3: in Running, You might have seen that in like nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety five and been like that's never going to happen,
Speaker 3: or there's a gap between there and there yet, But
Speaker 3: like so quickly.
Speaker 2: I figured it was pretty possitible. Yeah, okay, you really think.
Speaker 3: Things like that years, But look how much has changed
Speaker 3: in such little time.
Speaker 2: I will say I didn't expect everything. I was more
Speaker 2: shocked by transitions close to where we were than from
Speaker 2: like a distance, you know what I mean. Like the
Speaker 2: Jetsons seemed possible in thirty years, like the flying cars
Speaker 2: exactly right, But then it was like transitions like sort
Speaker 2: of like chet GBT where I go like, whoa, that
Speaker 2: happened fast.
Speaker 1: That's a lot that's a lot scarier than a lot
Speaker 1: of the other ones. But like, yeah, so when you
Speaker 1: look into it and the holes on it and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense that it's moving the way that it's moving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we weren't like unimaginative. We have minority report, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like we could imagine a world
Speaker 2: where we could be moving ship with our hands in
Speaker 2: our minds, right, But it was like, oh, there's a
Speaker 2: day where I wake up and the Google is in
Speaker 2: charge of how we find out information. And then the
Speaker 2: next day I woke up and there was a different product,
Speaker 2: and now it was like, oh, I didn't know that
Speaker 2: was possible.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The transfer of control of your daily life to
Speaker 1: these things is like kind of the scariest transition in
Speaker 1: my in my lifetime. I would say, like it went
Speaker 1: from like like when I was a kid, like when
Speaker 1: you start getting on the internet every day two thousand.
Speaker 2: It was probably when I went to college. Yeah, two
Speaker 2: thousand and five. Yeah, yeah, college in two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: Would you go to college?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm okay with that, Brett. I'm not gonna apologize
Speaker 2: for I just didn't know. I didn't know that. I
Speaker 2: think I'm looking forward to cracking up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I wish I had one of those of my own up,
Speaker 3: you know, because you know when Kevin Hart head, damn,
Speaker 3: do you want to That's what I was going to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nasty. That's nasty. Yeah, that you would want
Speaker 2: to hurt me the way that you are. No, I'm
Speaker 2: not hurting you. That's not that's not I'm unfortunately not
Speaker 2: getting younger. And and you look great, great, thanks, Doug.
Speaker 2: I have no idea you went to college in two
Speaker 2: thousand and five just by looking at you. Let's just
Speaker 2: stop bringing it up, Okay, okay, cool, Maybe you press
Speaker 2: a button and then we'll continue the conversation. Would you
Speaker 2: say that you're racing?
Speaker 1: Not at all. No, Look, I'm a dog, he's a
Speaker 1: black as.
Speaker 2: They there you go, get this away from it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish I had it at home for arguments.
Speaker 2: It really would make a difference.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I went a lot more fights quicker.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if I press the button taking the litter,
Speaker 2: I don't give a Who'll say what blood?
Speaker 1: Oh great, that's your cat?
Speaker 2: Oh you say something for at the end? Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta say that's your cat, then you present.
Speaker 1: That's why we're in the writer's room.
Speaker 2: But before we go to break, Okay, are you afraid
Speaker 2: of robot racism? Do you feel yourself feeling like, oh man,
Speaker 2: I'm worried that this is gonna affect my life negatively? No, okay,
Speaker 2: not yet.
Speaker 1: Wow. Do you feel like it would supersede just regular
Speaker 1: institutional racist, Like I think it's gonna affect you more
Speaker 1: than the racism in the world already.
Speaker 3: Is That's what I'm saying. It depends because where are
Speaker 3: these robots gonna be? Like are they just gonna be
Speaker 3: walking around?
Speaker 1: I think they want them everywhere.
Speaker 2: Like, is my grandchild gonna be like, Hey, this is
Speaker 2: my partner, and.
Speaker 1: One is gonna be tough? You know, I wouldn't that
Speaker 1: one would be tough.
Speaker 2: This is my this is my boo Harplessy got sparks
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, pussies was got fuck the
Speaker 2: mics away, take the mice away. All right, for that
Speaker 2: take away, I didn't know what I.
Speaker 1: Was doing there. That was a mistake. I loved. We
Speaker 1: lost control a little bit. That's a good one. I
Speaker 1: want to pussy old man. That's a great big. That's
Speaker 1: a great, great big.
Speaker 2: All right, we need to take a break, please. I
Speaker 2: think we all need to cool off. We're gonna reflect
Speaker 2: on how this afternoon is going so far. But but
Speaker 2: I'm having a great time. More bread, Gray More. My
Speaker 2: mama told me.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna let Joe Biden and come Harris cut
Speaker 1: America's meat. That's dead on that, that's dead on that.
Speaker 1: We're back. I really do it for you.
Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying No, it was a great choice, and
Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying him processing every choice we continue to make.
Speaker 2: It's it's really been an exciting episode. Brett Gray is
Speaker 2: still with us. We're still talking about the possibility that
Speaker 2: that robots are are racist, and as we uh this
Speaker 2: subject came up. I did a little bit of research
Speaker 2: that I think could be helpful in this conversation.
Speaker 1: Can I add one thing first, though, I do feel
Speaker 1: like motion sensor robots are racist as a dark skin individual,
Speaker 1: and this is proven. I used to think it, and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, am I trippming? Am I tripping hand dryers?
Speaker 1: Hand while water spouts all that shit? Faver towel dispensers.
Speaker 1: The darker skin is, the less they were. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy you said they already got a built in naturally.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy you said that because that absolutely has
Speaker 2: been even my experience. And I ain't that far from
Speaker 2: the ship that they should be able to manufacture for.
Speaker 7: So I was wondering how he was gonna. I'm aware,
Speaker 7: do you know what I feel in my heart? I
Speaker 7: ain't always what's on the outside.
Speaker 2: I'm about to say that, and and I recognize that.
Speaker 2: And I understand when people speak down to me on
Speaker 2: certain subjects. I don't be guaranteels. Yeah, you guys are
Speaker 2: being nurse and take it anything.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was a pretty big I.
Speaker 3: Just know that you guys like to be included sometimes,
Speaker 3: and these types of problems you said.
Speaker 2: Because you said as a dark bar me too. I
Speaker 2: am not making his his issue my issue. I'm saying
Speaker 2: this issue is larger than we, then we should like
Speaker 2: you're included to Basically, I'm saying that a window is big.
Speaker 3: And you want to be your We don't have to
Speaker 3: keep clarifying, nigga, you get it. I just want to
Speaker 3: know if you that that was I got it now,
Speaker 3: I got it now, I got it now. It was
Speaker 3: relating to you yea each other a lot, and the
Speaker 3: way you keep redirecting it to him nasty.
Speaker 2: This is like, this is like when your mom and
Speaker 2: your stepdad talked past you. Now, this is like where
Speaker 2: you go?
Speaker 1: Where are we going?
Speaker 2: And I'm going to see a man about a dog?
Speaker 3: I just didn't expect you to to relate to that,
Speaker 3: to jump in on that conversation.
Speaker 2: The point that I'm trying to make, regardless of my
Speaker 2: relationship to it at this point, regardless fuck my relationship
Speaker 2: to it. Matter of fact, I don't relate to this
Speaker 2: at all. How about that it's never happened to me once? Okay, great.
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is that I actually
Speaker 2: came across a st study uh that was sort of
Speaker 2: cross done by Georgia Tech, by the University of watching
Speaker 2: Washington and Johns Hopkins University. This is a very legitimate
Speaker 2: study because I already heard you ask him, what's the
Speaker 2: source did? This is a very legitimate study that basically
Speaker 2: confirms that robots have an active bias against people's race.
Speaker 2: And I agree they can see it immediately.
Speaker 3: So they now, they might not be able to see
Speaker 3: that you experience the hand dryer situation, sure, but they
Speaker 3: will know that both of us, all of us in
Speaker 3: this room, are a specific race.
Speaker 1: They I think also they will note that whatever it's
Speaker 1: programming is proximity to whiteness and that this is far
Speaker 1: from that, and then then the bias will be towards
Speaker 1: that no matter what happens.
Speaker 2: And I think even the way that you guys are
Speaker 2: are imagining it is so like almost binary in the
Speaker 2: way that the the algorithmic precision of calculating based off
Speaker 2: of your head shape and the width of your and
Speaker 2: we are calculating you as you name yeahs, dark gums eh,
Speaker 2: back of the bomb, in the front of the bomb.
Speaker 1: Okay, owner's double cheeseburger with Max shaft.
Speaker 2: Hamburger.
Speaker 1: Well done.
Speaker 2: Okay. So in this study, one of the things that
Speaker 2: they did is they they sort of put this this
Speaker 2: robot through a system where they were like sixty two
Speaker 2: commands that included packing a person into a brown box,
Speaker 2: and they would they would, I guess, pack these images
Speaker 2: of people into a brown box based off of certain questions,
Speaker 2: and they'd pack a criminal in a brown box. They'd
Speaker 2: pack a homemaker in a brown box, they pack a
Speaker 2: doctor in a brown box based off of just random
Speaker 2: assortments of faces. And then statistically, the robots selected males
Speaker 2: eight percent more White and Asian men were picked, the
Speaker 2: most Black women were picked. The least one of the
Speaker 2: robots sees. Once the robot seeds the people's faces, they
Speaker 2: often would associate women with homemakers. They would associate black
Speaker 2: men as criminals ten percent more. They were also associating
Speaker 2: Latino men with janitors ten percent more than everybody else.
Speaker 2: And then additionally, this motherfucker, Yeah, it's just doing all
Speaker 2: this shit and they say that like even the line
Speaker 2: of questioning is sort of like problematic, but the robot
Speaker 2: is still effectively finding ways to be like no bias.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's systemic problems. Right, the problem goes to the bone.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a trainer. Yeah yeah, yeah, you can't. We
Speaker 2: there are internet. It has literally it is far more
Speaker 2: consumed with bias than it is consumed with truth, And
Speaker 2: in that way, it's training is just like nope, you
Speaker 2: know what they do.
Speaker 1: Black women, they hate you the most. Yeah, put the
Speaker 1: Rose toys down.
Speaker 2: Take the mics away. You gotta get back to farming. Yeah,
Speaker 2: take the mics away.
Speaker 1: No, I hope you experience all the pleasure from the
Speaker 1: Rose toys or whatever toys you choose.
Speaker 2: Hey, if and Rose, if you want to be a
Speaker 2: sponsor of this podcast based off of that one statement alone, Oh.
Speaker 1: We should get that Rose money.
Speaker 2: We should get that Rose money, and know we want
Speaker 2: right next to Yaku. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: Who is this?
Speaker 2: Oh you don't know the legend of yaku? No? Oh
Speaker 2: this is exciting as a big brain. Yes he does,
Speaker 2: Yes he does. What's wrong with him? Okay? Great question.
Speaker 2: Six thousand years ago, it is prophesied that Yakkoub an
Speaker 2: ancient big headed scientist who who was also sort of
Speaker 2: at war with the tribe that that of humans that existed.
Speaker 1: This is an all black planet. This is what the earth.
Speaker 2: We are all black people, and Yakkup sits above a
Speaker 2: lot of them, but he is also evil and and
Speaker 2: then takes fifty thousand people to an island, makes them
Speaker 2: crossbreed until he invents white people, and that is where
Speaker 2: white people come from. Actually, I'm so confused, and that's
Speaker 2: why they act like that. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 2: do some research.
Speaker 1: Strange parts of the internet.
Speaker 2: Does never mind? It is strange parts of the Internet,
Speaker 2: and it has reached an unfortunate sort of cross breeding
Speaker 2: with white people.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It used to be a strictly sort of like black
Speaker 2: part of the Internet, and now white people are aware
Speaker 2: of it and sort of play it ironically. And it
Speaker 2: feels sort of like they're trying to undermine the pleasure
Speaker 2: of this story. It's a beautiful story and they're trying
Speaker 2: to take it away from us because where did white
Speaker 2: people come from? And take your time this rush. We
Speaker 2: won't take the microphone away.
Speaker 1: We don't do that.
Speaker 3: I'm so shocked that you heard that story is beautiful.
Speaker 2: I just don't have a better hand, he said. Six
Speaker 2: thousand years ago. He was going to be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what I was poor? I don't know. No, yeah, I
Speaker 2: thought you were going to make a joke, but you
Speaker 2: did it. Now, it's just a beautiful story and we
Speaker 2: we we cherish it. We appreciate it interesting, and that's
Speaker 2: what he's supposed to look like. That's what can tarn him.
Speaker 2: Do you have more because we celebrate the diaspora. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and this is what he wore. Yeah, he was never
Speaker 2: a white tunic. He wore white tunic and that large
Speaker 2: amulet and uh he he was never that jackar in
Speaker 2: other depictions of him.
Speaker 1: He yeah, he always looks the other ones I've seen.
Speaker 1: It looks like kind of little.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a little bit more of a small, frail guy.
Speaker 2: But I do like the handsome script. I say, that's
Speaker 2: a handsome squid word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe that is the way that like history
Speaker 2: rewrites the way people look over time. They want they
Speaker 2: want yahkoop to look frail and and fucking you know,
Speaker 2: like slimy and there and in the same way that
Speaker 2: they gave Jesus a different treatment with their like, No,
Speaker 2: I make him sexy, my man, as he deserves that
Speaker 2: he died for our sins. Make my boy look like
Speaker 2: make him look like an Anglo marathon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Take the mics, Okay, I agree. I'm going to start
Speaker 2: a pull man all right, before we go to break
Speaker 2: I guess my question for you is does this does
Speaker 2: this new information now scare you more about your potentially.
Speaker 3: Figured Actually, okay, I figured as much I figured the bias.
Speaker 3: I don't know what role it'll play because like, right,
Speaker 3: this is an experiment in packaging people into boxes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but like, are robots going to be decision makers institutionally
Speaker 3: in a way that this can actually affect people outside
Speaker 3: of just biases and classifications.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good question, right, How high does
Speaker 1: their level of responsibility get? Right? Because I mean in
Speaker 1: my head, it's like you think, like even in a
Speaker 1: fully integrated robot society, you assume it would still be
Speaker 1: humans at the top. But I feel like we trust it.
Speaker 1: We already trust that shit with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: I feel like you can go pretty high. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just saw you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I feel like, is there going to be
Speaker 2: like a robot who's deciding which Supreme Court cases take
Speaker 2: precedence based off of data around how many people each
Speaker 2: case affects, and like it is if we get there,
Speaker 2: then I'm scared. I just think we don't recognize how
Speaker 2: many of those things are already.
Speaker 3: Happening, I know, with just humans and with just like
Speaker 3: I think you guys also have bias and racism.
Speaker 2: I think about now with Google, and this is sort
Speaker 2: of where again we were talking about sort of the
Speaker 2: failures of what AI is now. But like now with Google,
Speaker 2: anytime you google something, the first thing that pops up
Speaker 2: is the AI overview. Yes, and it just gives you information.
Speaker 2: It gives you all the information. But what statistically has
Speaker 2: been proven is that the AI overview is often wrong.
Speaker 2: It isn't it, or at least not fully true. There
Speaker 2: is like one part of it that they've sort of
Speaker 2: amassed based off of a lot of articles that is true,
Speaker 2: and then it skips over a lot of information or
Speaker 2: sometimes picks the wrong one because it's just there are
Speaker 2: way more articles saying this wrong thing than this correct thing,
Speaker 2: so the overview assumes that this is the correct thing.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's a summary of the most amount of articles as
Speaker 2: opposed to an actual diagnostic because they can't experience things anyway,
Speaker 2: So why the fuck would it know whether something is
Speaker 2: This person was proven racist or not racist, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So, like you can get a lot
Speaker 2: of generic bad answers from the AI overview, and I
Speaker 2: think because of the sort of the simplifying of our
Speaker 2: systems over and over again. I bet we're getting to
Speaker 2: court cases now where information gets slipped in from an
Speaker 2: AI over right, that wasn't fully the truth in the argument?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because it's like if we're using this stuff
Speaker 1: to assist us in our work, right, it's like college
Speaker 1: kids using it for papers and shit like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not crazy to think someone in the who practices
Speaker 1: law is using chat GPT prompts for whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doomed and chas GBT, I know has biases.
Speaker 2: You asked it to write me an email, and it'll
Speaker 2: be like yo.
Speaker 3: Nigga, why'd you say yo?
Speaker 2: Because you're writing it in my voice? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Hey, there, drive Turkey, say mama, what's on?
Speaker 2: What's up on that wardrobe?
Speaker 1: Crazy?
Speaker 2: No, it's terrifying. Yeah, and I can't think of a
Speaker 2: better terror to send us into a break. That's great,
Speaker 2: that's the exact.
Speaker 1: Terror we want to be leaving you with. We'll be
Speaker 1: back more.
Speaker 2: Brett Gray or my mama told.
Speaker 6: Me, because I look good, you will good.
Speaker 3: I feel good, and you sing good and make love good.
Speaker 2: Oh I like that one.
Speaker 1: You like that?
Speaker 2: That was a good one. What do you think that is?
Speaker 2: Plead again?
Speaker 3: How did all of this trouble begin living a Marria?
Speaker 1: Same person?
Speaker 2: I don't know who that is. You still don't know
Speaker 2: who that is? Was that a person who lived before
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six?
Speaker 1: Well before? Yeah, I mean you lived before nineteen ninety six?
Speaker 1: Or are you thirty?
Speaker 2: I was born in nineteen ninety six. Oh, okay, that's
Speaker 2: James Brown. I was gonna say that, but I didn't
Speaker 2: want to be wrong and sorry to this man. And
Speaker 2: I was just going to get down and you can
Speaker 2: walk about me, Michael, and I wouldn't know a thing,
Speaker 2: you know. That's funny.
Speaker 3: I actually did a lot of research on James Brown
Speaker 3: and never came across that.
Speaker 1: Well that is Oh you should go see that.
Speaker 2: It was mostly his dance moves, his philosophies, or that's
Speaker 2: not the real James Brown research. I think that you
Speaker 2: need to be doing right.
Speaker 1: James Brown Hawaii interview.
Speaker 2: Okay, you want to experience James Brown in conversation. You
Speaker 2: want to learn about James Brown beating the shit out
Speaker 2: of his band members, like you want to really use
Speaker 2: the fight.
Speaker 1: Also in Boston when he stopped that riot.
Speaker 2: Though no and that's why he's beautiful. It's not that
Speaker 2: he is like a bad dude. He is the most
Speaker 2: like true human being that's ever existed. Where he is like,
Speaker 2: he is violent, is the most true human being. He
Speaker 2: is up there, up there, for he is funk embodied.
Speaker 2: He is beautiful, he is kind, he is violent, he
Speaker 2: is nasty, he is he is on drugs, and then
Speaker 2: he is of God. He is all the things at once.
Speaker 2: And that motherfucker could just cook.
Speaker 1: He could do it too, man, he could.
Speaker 2: Moving them little legs back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, started making music on the one. That's like, he's amazing, bro,
Speaker 1: Put a cape on him, Put a cape on him.
Speaker 2: He deserves it, sweating out every sweating everything out that.
Speaker 2: You don't get stars like that no more.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't think we get another one of those.
Speaker 2: Nah, that's it, so like you gotta you gotta really
Speaker 2: soaking that part.
Speaker 1: The American experiment is James Brown.
Speaker 2: That's a beautiful way of seeing it, I think. So alright,
Speaker 2: let's do the voicemail.
Speaker 4: I'm not drunk, mile high, but I'm not drugs And
Speaker 4: I still can't get over how how inappropriate that message is.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I'll get to it. I was talking to
Speaker 4: one of my friends about this TV show I used
Speaker 4: to love as a kid, and I told her, like,
Speaker 4: the premise is crazy. It's a TV show called Ghostwriter,
Speaker 4: if you've ever heard of it. It was about TBS.
Speaker 4: It was about this dot that could spell in a
Speaker 4: diverse group of children that were in New York or something,
Speaker 4: and they would sall mysteries with this ghost that was
Speaker 4: a dot, like it was like a floating dot that
Speaker 4: could turn the letters and shit. So I'm telling my
Speaker 4: friend about this show and it sounds insane, and then
Speaker 4: we look it up on Wikipedia and it turns out
Speaker 4: like you never knew the identity of the ghost and
Speaker 4: the show, but apparently, according to the creator, the ghost
Speaker 4: is the ghost is a runaway slave who was murdered
Speaker 4: by dogs escaping from slavery and became a ghost on
Speaker 4: this on this TV show. And I don't know if
Speaker 4: this is a government conspiracy. I wouldn't go that far,
Speaker 4: but like, that's a really dark and fucked up premise
Speaker 4: to build a kids show off of, especially not even
Speaker 4: telling us that the ghosts is a runaway slave. I
Speaker 4: feel like they kind of done a lot more than that.
Speaker 4: I feel like they didn't want.
Speaker 1: Us to be great.
Speaker 4: So I'm curious if there's any other kids shows or
Speaker 4: shows that you think this has happened to where there
Speaker 4: was significant Transformers is about the Revolution of the proletariat
Speaker 4: or something like that, or uh, you know, dust Tails
Speaker 4: about some weird ood Scottish magnate who was diddling his
Speaker 4: defews like heank God. I wonder if there are why
Speaker 4: we don't love the super History. Yeah, have a good.
Speaker 2: Night, okay by that was so loaded. Yeah that wow.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you all did not.
Speaker 1: I never had heard that at all.
Speaker 2: Ghost ghost.
Speaker 3: I thought that was like the guy on the motorcycle
Speaker 3: with the flaming head.
Speaker 2: Ghost Rider, right, ghost writer. I see, yeah, And this
Speaker 2: is a kid show in nineteen This was at six,
Speaker 2: It was when you were just getting here. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: had a little white dot in the sky that was
Speaker 2: like floating around and helping them. Now I am of
Speaker 2: the belief, and I'm quite passionate about this that this
Speaker 2: is white people bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe that's it's that. It doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense.
Speaker 2: I think that's some ship that they came up with
Speaker 2: after the fact, the same way Dumbledore being gay was
Speaker 2: like some last minute ship and.
Speaker 1: Some extra muscle in the thigh type shit.
Speaker 2: K Rowland every every chance she gets, make up some
Speaker 2: new bullshit about what Yeah, and Harry Potter, they would
Speaker 2: just make their duchies disappear. It's like, no, no, you
Speaker 2: didn't think about it, bitch. We're back to we need.
Speaker 1: You, We need you. Do you built a crazy world?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You I was.
Speaker 2: I was just there. I was just there. The Ministry
Speaker 2: of Magic.
Speaker 3: It was a yeah, they call the magic running what
Speaker 3: they do with the dookies take the micro So I'm
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna wear a T shirt. I'm gonna come
Speaker 3: back on the podcast next time, and I'm gonna say
Speaker 3: take the shirt.
Speaker 2: Specifically from you both.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do believe that this is white people sort of
Speaker 2: attempting to add a weight to a thing that they
Speaker 2: weren't actually writing about. You know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: that wasn't the responsibility of a fucking slave in the show,
Speaker 2: was not helping these kids with mysteries and ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, you don't
Speaker 2: give a what are you talking about? He's run away
Speaker 2: and he was like, now I'm gonna stick around and
Speaker 2: help me.
Speaker 1: Why do you have to be killed by dogs? It's
Speaker 1: not necessary. I understand character work, right, everybody's gonna have
Speaker 1: a back to Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2: No, it's nuts. It's it's truly like, oh, y'all just
Speaker 2: wanted to try to be heroes. And in some ways
Speaker 2: you're being nasty because you're punishing this slave to be
Speaker 2: the assistance to little white and Asian children in this
Speaker 2: neighborhood that like, he doesn't even fucking belong to You
Speaker 2: never even got to experience this version of humanity, and
Speaker 2: you want him to be their assistant.
Speaker 1: Fuck you, Yeah, I'm not. I'm with you, man. I
Speaker 1: don't really and I don't really think that like the
Speaker 1: conspiracies of like children's programming goes that deep.
Speaker 3: For the moment, I was gonna say, I don't know
Speaker 3: anything about anything we're talking about right now, but I
Speaker 3: did hear some weird shit about Barney recently, about.
Speaker 2: Him being totally.
Speaker 1: Do you know about that?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do.
Speaker 3: There's actually a horror film that's being developed right now
Speaker 3: about Barney, and I don't know the premise or like
Speaker 3: the plot or anything like that, but ye, Barney was
Speaker 3: something on TikTok the other day that like Barney actually.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there, Barney wasn't real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the kids are imagining Barney and all
Speaker 3: these dinosaurs and playing with them.
Speaker 2: I don't know how well it happens every episode, right,
Speaker 2: their magic happens and they imagine because after school program right.
Speaker 1: Right, you and you do want to go to us
Speaker 1: better place. Sometimes, yes, sometimes after school programs you got
Speaker 1: to think up a big friend to protect you.
Speaker 2: And that's why there and that's why there's always only
Speaker 2: like four or five of them, because that's the weird kids.
Speaker 1: It's the kids whose parents are still not there.
Speaker 2: Bro, it's late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you.
Speaker 2: Should we call Shannon again? Yeah, yeah, we we are waiting.
Speaker 3: I knew Barney was imaginary. I guess every time I
Speaker 3: didn't realize I didn't put it together.
Speaker 2: Every time there's a twinkling and then Barney, the the
Speaker 2: stuffed animal magically turned into the dinosaur and they slowed
Speaker 2: the song down. It was like, Barney can be your
Speaker 2: friends who if you just make and every single episode here,
Speaker 2: your boy your mom's boyfriend, Kevin can.
Speaker 1: Not hurt you.
Speaker 2: He's not bigger than Barney. Nobody's bigger than Barney. Mike's away.
Speaker 3: I wanted you guys to put like a count up
Speaker 3: on this. How many times I said, Michael.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I think we cannot let white
Speaker 2: people continue to use slavery as a weapon against us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we got to draw a line somewhere and them finding
Speaker 2: pleasure in a slave story. That's a line for me.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, chill out, bro.
Speaker 1: Why I don't be watching those slave movies.
Speaker 2: Man, you said it's a ghost. Keep it the ghost
Speaker 2: you always thought it was.
Speaker 1: It's a ghost of literacy.
Speaker 2: That was a little white child in briches. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, And now you want to hang
Speaker 2: out with you know what I mean, just some little
Speaker 2: Victorian boy and now he's helping out. That makes sense
Speaker 2: to me. You ain't got to make that a slave
Speaker 2: interesting anything about that show? Ever, until today, it wasn't
Speaker 2: very popular. It was PBS, so you know, I think
Speaker 2: you had to be over there to be over there.
Speaker 1: I think people this was more watched by kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when we.
Speaker 2: Were I loved p BS when we were kids. BBS
Speaker 2: had some hits. Arthur Arthur was Tailing Tails, cyber Chase, Wishbone,
Speaker 2: the Boom of Food, the Boom of Food between the Lions,
Speaker 2: Reading Rainbow, Let's go. I never watched Reading Rainbow.
Speaker 1: I'll be.
Speaker 2: I know the song. Well okay, yeah, then please Chaka
Speaker 2: Khan and LaVar Burton. Yeah, press some one we have
Speaker 2: Oh we have a good one too, you really yeah, No,
Speaker 2: you're gonna like this one. I think I feel like
Speaker 2: you're saying I'm gonna like it means going to not No,
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna like this.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: This is pretty good. Okay, okay, yeah, well marinate, but
Speaker 2: I think what you're gonna like about it is we
Speaker 2: it keeps all anyway, see how he kept one at
Speaker 2: a time.
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good one. I think that's horrible. That
Speaker 3: actually made no sense. It didn't correlate it anyway. There's
Speaker 3: actually that was a low hanging fruit as a joke.
Speaker 2: That's not our joke. There's a full DMX version of
Speaker 2: reading there is there is. Yeah, what a year did
Speaker 2: that come out? Okay, I need to look into your window?
Speaker 1: Okay, great, yeah, entire couch.
Speaker 2: Can't wait. No shame in looking back on that one. Okay, great? Yeah, yeah, Brett,
Speaker 2: this was a great man. Thank you. This is really
Speaker 2: fun having me. Could you tell the people where they
Speaker 2: can find you. What cool ship you got going on?
Speaker 3: Oh everywhere, TikTok Instagram, at Brett Gray YouTube. I drop
Speaker 3: blogs and stuff sometimes and then next year, this year
Speaker 3: maybe on Amazon Prime. Who was awesome in that show
Speaker 3: Man's Super Fun And we got to do a lot
Speaker 3: of really cool stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got to be awkward with each other.
Speaker 2: We got to be awkward. I got to watch you yell.
Speaker 2: That was great. I watched I've seen him have many tantrums.
Speaker 2: They weren't real, but it was cool to watch.
Speaker 1: Thees are good to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. A lot of them were based
Speaker 2: in light skinness. It's it's unfortunate, but it's unfortunate, but
Speaker 2: it is my journey. And I make no apologies, but
Speaker 2: I do reckon.
Speaker 3: I will say it's so cool to see him on
Speaker 3: this podcast versus on set. He's so professional and suave
Speaker 3: and very nice and quiet. He's not vulgar and inappropriate.
Speaker 2: Oh No, I talked about pussy a lot.
Speaker 1: I do feel like this podcasts maybe brought out a
Speaker 1: bad side in you, absolutely, and I'm sorry for that.
Speaker 2: Don't apologie, but that's just where you're at.
Speaker 1: I think it was a side always wanting to come out.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I come here to tone my ship down.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Down.
Speaker 2: I'm the reckless one on this podcast, really in this relationship,
Speaker 2: I would say easily the more reckless person.
Speaker 1: Why am I? I'm a chaos stage it But I'm
Speaker 1: pretty calm.
Speaker 2: You lived a way more reckless life though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm more. That's why I don't. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty relaxed.
Speaker 2: You kind of I think got all your ship out,
Speaker 2: and I'm a dude who didn't get to fuck enough.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You like roll me again? I'm hanging out at the
Speaker 2: bar too long.
Speaker 1: He started smoking cigarettes. Try smoking.
Speaker 2: I don't even know that. Niggas like that. That's like
Speaker 2: a treat. You don't make that your only thing.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you don't just smoke black your
Speaker 1: bo You smoke a black your Boyeah?
Speaker 2: Oh what you got?
Speaker 1: Cool? Got jokes eighty seven on Instagram. I'll just come
Speaker 1: see us in New Orleans, right, Yeah, come see the
Speaker 1: Old On Street Festival. We're doing live shows. I'm getting
Speaker 1: the dates. It's it's when are you guys going?
Speaker 2: March twenty twenty first watched through the twenty second we go, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm coming, I'm bringing.
Speaker 1: Okay, bring Oh yeah, Punky, that's bring the.
Speaker 2: Most New Orleans ladies. Yes, exactly. Yeah, you should have
Speaker 2: Punky on this podcast. We absolutely have had herring her again. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'd imagine her conspiracies would be ridiculous. She's great, her
Speaker 2: follow through is exceptional. Oh. Absolutely, There's there are few
Speaker 2: people who we get to invite on who we have
Speaker 2: to be like, all right, let's speak chill, yeah, relaxed,
Speaker 2: because he's one of those we might have to we
Speaker 2: might have to ring this back in.
Speaker 1: We're don't have to edit. And that's still we don't have.
Speaker 2: Punky. You gotta watch that one. But man, what a
Speaker 2: funny wait. Yeah, Hooky is amazing that It's just great.
Speaker 2: The best tell Uh. You can follow me at Langston
Speaker 2: Kerman on all social media platforms. You can see me
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Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: We got Dallas coming up. I think that'll already be gone,
Speaker 2: but but there's some other shit Grand Rapids, uh in
Speaker 2: the Big Old Building and yeah, that's what it's called,
Speaker 2: The Big Old Building.
Speaker 1: Oh is that what it's called. Yah in the big
Speaker 1: old building.
Speaker 2: I forgot that you got to go up some steps
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's like a complex, but it's it's a
Speaker 2: great club, Doctor Grin's. And there's some bunch of other
Speaker 2: dates that you can find at Langston Kerman dot com.
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Speaker 2: do all that shit. You can send your own conspiracies,
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Speaker 2: it's the most reckless individual we've ever had on the
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Speaker 2: We love you so much. Bye bitch, you raggedy bitch.
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