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Speaker 2: Her hair color? Who's that? I don't know. It's a

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Speaker 2: different person. Huh Is that a different person?

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Speaker 2: Different person? Is that a different person? Different person? Sure?

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Speaker 2: I thought you're the best person. Positive? All right, thank

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Speaker 2: you man.

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Speaker 3: Different persons the best?

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Speaker 2: Hey man, ay man, change her here?

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Speaker 3: That's not the same person.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, never mind, never mind, shot premature. It should

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Speaker 2: have did a little bit more recount it happens. That's good. Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's amazing. All right, all right?

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Speaker 4: Shall we uh shall we get into this fun little discussion?

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Speaker 1: Why do I feel like every time there's a segment,

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Speaker 1: you guys think I'm gonna go off on you guys

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Speaker 1: all like tiptoe into it.

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Speaker 4: I just can't wait for it. Like this is more

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Speaker 4: anticipation and excitement than anything. Because my guy Lincoln.

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Speaker 2: Riley was uh speaking of I mean, he is he

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Speaker 2: is pooling rank, ain't he? Damn right? He is as

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Speaker 2: he should as respect. Man. That's right. Done amazing things

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Speaker 2: there at USC.

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Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley was speaking to reporters in San Antonio where

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Speaker 4: they'll be playing TCU in the Alamobile coming up later

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Speaker 4: on and.

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Speaker 2: Uh one USC that didn't want to play.

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Speaker 4: He had he had some thoughts about this Notre Dame

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Speaker 4: cancelation that we've discussed on the show.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. It's pretty simple. You know.

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Speaker 6: We've both worked for months to try to find a solution.

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Speaker 6: Notre Dame was very vocal about the fact that they

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Speaker 6: Went back to Notre Dame roughly a couple of weeks

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Speaker 6: us anytime, anywhere. That proposal was rejected. Not only was

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Speaker 2: Ooh wow, that wasn't say grenade. That was a shade rocket.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got to take that tank gg what

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Speaker 2: You got to take that.

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Speaker 3: What's he talking about you? I've said this publicly.

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Speaker 1: It's rich coming from the guy who basically questioned playing

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Speaker 1: it's rich coming from him because he couldn't beat Notre Dame. Really,

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Speaker 1: if you look at his record, I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: It really started with Lincoln Riley and his inability to

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Speaker 1: And this isn't company from like a Notre Dame perspective

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Speaker 3: That's the truth. Whether Southern cal people want.

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Speaker 1: To realize that or not, that game brought you to

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Speaker 1: Two programs who were competing for national championship start history

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Speaker 2: Well, he said, and I don't want to play, and

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Speaker 1: And so when you look at how this started, it

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Speaker 1: an issue was against this I who point blank say that,

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Speaker 1: And she knows it too, because I've had those conversations

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Speaker 2: The other thing is, they've got no money.

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Speaker 1: They want to talk like they've got money, and they're

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Speaker 1: They don't have any money because if they did have money,

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Speaker 1: But SC knows that that's the lie that they can

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Speaker 3: Conference play and some of those dates already set.

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Speaker 2: You can't move that already.

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Speaker 1: Southern Cal said, hey, let's play in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: we can't get there yet. They're like, well, I guess

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Speaker 1: have to find someone else then. And if they cared

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Speaker 1: so much about extending the robbery, why only do it

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Speaker 1: for two years? Why not just say yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep paying this in perpetuity, and this is how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna look. It's because they don't want to play it anymore,

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Speaker 1: because they got a head coach who knows you can't win.

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Speaker 2: It. Is their money connected to BYU playing Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: in that game? Or is it just a scheduled game.

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Speaker 1: Well, they'll get the home gate, like, they'll get a

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Speaker 1: I mean, like these are all statistical facts too, it's

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Speaker 3: Like not, Nope, can't play that game anymore.

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Speaker 1: I find it interesting at this point in Lincoln Riley's

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Speaker 2: Right this USC football baby sums it up. Well, there

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Speaker 3: And if they they have the funds they say they do,

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Speaker 2: They did, and we bought our coach out.

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Speaker 1: There you go and by the way, and you got

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Speaker 1: By the way, the most improved part of the SC

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Speaker 1: That's just another example of all the glitz, glamor all

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Speaker 2: Who wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: They don't have anyone that's willing to stroke that check man.

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Speaker 2: They don't. That's crazy. What i'ma pay my money for?

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Speaker 2: I live here like I could see USC. What what

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Speaker 2: We're just putting our money together to get rid of him,

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Speaker 2: Look at the long laundry list of names that are

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting my money up to get rid of him,

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Speaker 2: They just paid your boy kiffing how much you left

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Speaker 2: But you should be able to take this game away.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the problem. That's the problem. Too many bad decisions. Man.

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Speaker 3: of context.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Well after this promo, I'm gonna take you

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Speaker 8: out and beat you.

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Speaker 3: Let me put this into context. Shut up.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, anyway, just listen to The Paula and Tony Fusco

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Speaker 8: Show on iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts oherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Yea, bring you in, right, don't play with it? Better

444
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Speaker 2: have some respect, don't you play with its been a

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Speaker 2: real loose show, that's right. Tighten it up, tighten it up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's for leieve. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: It's two pros and a cup of joe here on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 4: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.

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Speaker 2: No, no, man, come on man, tighten up, man, come.

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Speaker 4: On, bring us all you ever wanted to try an

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Speaker 4: Olympic and Paralympic sport? Oh god, would you try fencing?

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Speaker 4: Oh fast, it's safe, you know what. It's easy to start.

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Speaker 4: Find a beginner class near you at USA Fencing dot org.

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Speaker 4: Slash try fencing. That's USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing.

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Speaker 3: The godfather thing were fencing.

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Speaker 2: It's gotta be a first all right, all right, We've.

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Speaker 4: Got the leftovers coming up in fifteen minutes from now.

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Speaker 4: But right now, oh my god, pay your respects to

461
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Speaker 4: the man himself, Fox Sports, NFL and College Football Rules Analyst.

462
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Speaker 4: You can get him on X if you want some

463
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Speaker 4: of that smoke at Dean Blandino. Why hould I be

464
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Speaker 4: going at my boy like Dean Blandino with us here?

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Speaker 4: Good morning Dean, morning.

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Speaker 9: Dean, i'd morning morning guys. I just I just want

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Speaker 9: to say, if you, if you guys made the actual

468
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Speaker 9: got to wait as long as I just waited listening

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Speaker 9: to every ad, every podcast, every I mean, I could

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Speaker 9: do the fencing. I mean it's like it's.

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Speaker 2: Like Chesley's partio.

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Speaker 9: Okay, can we just I'm here, let's go.

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Speaker 1: It's actually think you'd be good at uhcing, I'm good

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Speaker 1: at everything.

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Speaker 9: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's to get this?

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Speaker 4: So indeed, I'm curious though, at this point of the year,

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Speaker 4: how would you assess the year from an officiating standpoint? Like,

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Speaker 4: because obviously you know fans are going to complain. You

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Speaker 4: hear it all the time on social media and see

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Speaker 4: it all the time, But like, how would you assess

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Speaker 4: the year from an officiating standpoint?

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Speaker 2: How they've done well?

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Speaker 9: Look, the narrative, and the narrative is always the same.

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Speaker 9: It's it's it's the officiating is getting worse. The scrutiny

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Speaker 9: is never it's going to continue to increase and in

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Speaker 9: every game, and there's so much riding on it, and

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Speaker 9: and not just from a competitive standpoint. We've got gambling,

489
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Speaker 9: and we've got fantasy, we've got everybody is so you know,

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Speaker 9: locked in on every every play. But from a at

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Speaker 9: least from an informed perspective, in terms of the time

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Speaker 9: that I've spent, the people that I've been around and

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Speaker 9: understanding the game from that side, it isn't as good

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Speaker 9: as it should be. It really isn't. And I think

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Speaker 9: the on field officials are struggling in some areas. I

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Speaker 9: think replay is struggling in some areas, and you certainly

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Speaker 9: don't want that going into the playoffs, and that's going

498
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Speaker 9: to be and you know, the hope always is that

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Speaker 9: with the playoffs you narrow the pool of people involved.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's one game at a time, you're going

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Speaker 9: to have less officials through your higher highest rated officials

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Speaker 9: working replay. Again, with one game going on at a time,

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Speaker 9: if your focus isn't on four or five different games,

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Speaker 9: you hope that you don't have any issues. And but again, overall,

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Speaker 9: I don't think it was a great year. I think

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Speaker 9: there's some things that need some improvement, and that's kind

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Speaker 9: of you know, just gramat with it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I could sense the need for improvement through your

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Speaker 1: guys videos that you inmight.

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Speaker 3: Deed, so I could I could give you.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll throw out a list of plays at

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Speaker 1: some point here with you. But I do want to

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Speaker 1: ask this, why not add another official if they're having

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Speaker 1: a hard time seeing it on the field in real

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Speaker 1: real time. I know you guys in the past have

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Speaker 1: been like, oh, they don't need it, whatever else, But

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Speaker 1: I feel like just at a college has it, Well,

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Speaker 1: why not add an additional official on the field in

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Speaker 1: the NFL too.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we looked at that ten fifteen years ago, and

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Speaker 9: I think I think spacing and the location of the

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Speaker 9: official was always a challenge. They moved the umpire was

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Speaker 9: the traditional condition where college still has that umpire in

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Speaker 9: the defensive backfield kind of like a linebacker level, maybe

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Speaker 9: a little deeper now, and they moved they moved that

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Speaker 9: that umpire out of there for safety reasons. So it's

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Speaker 9: hard to say, Okay, well the game's safer, we can

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Speaker 9: move you back in there. You know, you were seeing

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Speaker 9: a lot of crossing routes, a lot of a lot

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Speaker 9: of things that were happening where that umpire was getting

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Speaker 9: you know, getting in the way and a lot of traffic,

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Speaker 9: and I think that ultimately where to put that official.

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Speaker 9: I think there was a concern with the committee, Okay,

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Speaker 9: an extra set of eyes. Are we going to get

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Speaker 9: more flags? Do we need more flags than the game?

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Speaker 9: It's it's I can kind of see both sides of it,

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Speaker 9: and I think that's one of those you know, college

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Speaker 9: with the eighth official, it's kind of been more of

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Speaker 9: just like a ball spot or pace because the college

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Speaker 9: game from a tempo standpoint is so much faster than

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Speaker 9: the NFL, and they felt they needed that additional initial

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Speaker 9: body to keep up with the pace. So I think

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Speaker 9: the NFL has gone the other route where where it's

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Speaker 9: not it's a replay issue and we got it, we

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Speaker 9: got it, we need replay to fix everything. And I'm

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Speaker 9: not sure that's the right approach either, because we just

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Speaker 9: can't review every single thing. And so I'm sure those

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Speaker 9: conversations will continue with it, whether it's full time officials,

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Speaker 9: whether it's an eighth official. But again, I think it

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Speaker 9: comes down to it comes down to teaching and training

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Speaker 9: and consistency and that messaging, which which really the officiating

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Speaker 9: department just has to continue to work at.

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Speaker 2: Dan are is holding? Is holding getting redefined in the league?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if I see it as much

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Speaker 2: in college, But is it getting redefined in in the league, like,

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Speaker 2: for instance, a pass rusher. I've seen more than my

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Speaker 2: fair share of past rushers getting pulled to the ground.

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Speaker 2: I've seen possible tacklers getting impeded from the runner by

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Speaker 2: a clear, blatant hold of some sort impeding them. Is

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Speaker 2: it just getting redefined in terms of what a hold

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Speaker 2: is versus you know what? Like you know what's being

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Speaker 2: called versus what's not being called?

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Speaker 9: Well, from what I've seen, and look officiating the part

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Speaker 9: they put out videos every week, we get access to

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Speaker 9: those videos. Those videos go to the clubs, they go

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Speaker 9: to the officials and they'll talk about differ and things

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Speaker 9: like holding or pass afference or rules rules things. So

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Speaker 9: holding hasn'to my knowledge, hasn't been redefined. What what what

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Speaker 9: is holding? The definition of holding, how they want the

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Speaker 9: officials to call holding hasn't changed. I do think there's

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Speaker 9: there's an overall sense of and this has been kind

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Speaker 9: of happening percolating the last couple of years. Is they

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Speaker 9: they don't want games with a ton of fouls. So

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Speaker 9: so you want it to be clear and obvious. And

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Speaker 9: I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing. You don't

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Speaker 9: want to be overly technical. But if you keep preaching

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Speaker 9: that and you keep well, we can't have a lot

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Speaker 9: of flags. We have a lot of flags, then there's

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Speaker 9: going to be plays where officials just you know, they

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Speaker 9: see it, they go wow, that I think that's foult.

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Speaker 9: But I'm not going to you know, I got this

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Speaker 9: in the back of my mind that we can't we

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Speaker 9: don't want a whole bunch of flags.

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Speaker 2: In the game.

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Speaker 9: So I'm going to I'm going to keep it in

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Speaker 9: my pocket. I think that might be happening. Look, takedowns,

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Speaker 9: those have to be called. There's there's debatable ones where

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Speaker 9: you know, was their restriction and you know, did the

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Speaker 9: did the offensive lineman or whoever it is, did they

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Speaker 9: did they really restrict that defender? Did they have good feed?

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Speaker 9: Did they say square? Those types of things. But the

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Speaker 9: big takedowns, the big the bear hugs, the hook the hooks,

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Speaker 9: those types of things, they both have to be called.

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Speaker 4: Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox

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Speaker 4: Sports NFL college football.

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Speaker 3: Rules analysts get them on X at Dean.

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Speaker 4: Blandino, who's the best crew like at this point that

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Speaker 4: you've seen this year. If I'm one of those paranoid

599
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: fans always worried about, well they're out to get us whatnot,

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Speaker 4: if you see this crew or this official calling your game,

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Speaker 4: you can feel good that they're at least going to

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Speaker 4: get majority of the time the call right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I think each crew has strengths and weaknesses.

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Speaker 9: You know, you always look at them at the referee.

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Speaker 9: The referee really sets its tone. That's the quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 9: when I look at those those referees. Bill Vinovich, Checkers

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Speaker 9: does a great job on Torbert I think does a

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Speaker 9: great job. But every crew, and a lot of these

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Speaker 9: crews they've been you know, once they get to the postseason,

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Speaker 9: it's not the same crew that you'll see during the

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Speaker 9: regular season. Those like like I said, it's the highest

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Speaker 9: rated officials at each position. They'll be, they'll move them around.

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Speaker 9: There will be some continuity. It's not I don't think

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Speaker 9: we'll see a crew that is brand new in terms

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Speaker 9: of all seven officials who haven't worked together. So there'll

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Speaker 9: be some continuity. Maybe it's maybe it's three officials maybe

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Speaker 9: even four officials that have been on the same crew

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Speaker 9: during the regular season, but these crews are going to

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Speaker 9: change during the during the postseason, so it's hard to

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Speaker 9: kind of say that that crew is is the best crew.

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Speaker 9: I think the referee really it starts there, and I

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Speaker 9: think we'll see the best referees in the postseason, and

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Speaker 9: hopefully you don't have any of these, you know, some

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Speaker 9: of these issues we've seen during the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Do you know want I asked you about a defensive

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Speaker 1: pass interference, but when a ball seems like it was

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Speaker 1: an catchable There was a play in the Broncos Chiefs game.

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Speaker 1: I believe Pats Artana was the player called with with

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Speaker 1: DPI in this case. Just help me understand, like how

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Speaker 1: far out of bounds or how high or because that

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Speaker 1: was when I looked at and I go, okay, that

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Speaker 1: wasn't at all catchable. And yet I understand what I

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Speaker 1: took place on the field, But at what point of

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Speaker 1: the officials go yeah, okay, there's no chance of the receiver.

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Speaker 2: Getting that Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I think I think this concept of uncatchable, it's like

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Speaker 9: it's like what what unketchable is in reality and how

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Speaker 9: it's applied for the rule in the NFL or not

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Speaker 9: the same, Like there's gonna be balls, what you're gonna say,

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Speaker 9: there's no way you could have caught that. But the

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Speaker 9: philosophy has always been that these are you know, these

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00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 9: are tremendous athletes to assume that they can get to

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Speaker 9: the football, assume that they can make that play, and

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Speaker 9: it has to be really above and beyond, Like there's

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Speaker 9: some guidelines in terms of you know, if you've it's

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Speaker 9: the receivers outside the numbers in the balls front over

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Speaker 9: their head, it's how high you know, how if you

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Speaker 9: airmail it into the fifth row, that's not catchable. And

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Speaker 9: I think they use the sideline. If it lands in

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Speaker 9: the white that's typically you know, that six foot border

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Speaker 9: that's typically going to be considered catchable if it's somewhere

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Speaker 9: in the bench area. Now it starts to become closer

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Speaker 9: to hey, he couldn't have made a play on the ball.

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Speaker 9: It's so subjective it is, and you're going to lean

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Speaker 9: toward making you catchable. So I think that's what leads

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Speaker 9: to some of these plays where you go, wow, that

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Speaker 9: I don't think he could have caught that. But but

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Speaker 9: the way it's applied. They're gonna they're going to give

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Speaker 9: the receiver the benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I know you get tired of answering questions

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Speaker 2: about you know, obviously what the rules are.

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Speaker 3: I mean sorry, I mean you can ask me about

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Speaker 3: other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything like what? What? What should we have

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Speaker 2: asked you about? Dean, like give us something that you've

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Speaker 2: been like, Man, I wish they would have asked me.

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Speaker 3: I got one for you, Dean. How is your Christmas?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Christmas is good. It was quiet, it it was relaxing.

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Speaker 9: There was no I didn't I didn't watch a minute

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Speaker 9: of NFL football.

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Speaker 1: What did What did you get from Tom Brady? Because

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Speaker 1: you guys have become friends now, so was there a

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Speaker 1: nice Christmas?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? I got He's he's the best I got.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 9: I got a package, a giant package from from Ninja,

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Speaker 9: like delivered to the house. I'm like, what is this?

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Speaker 9: Like this amazing like really cool outdoor heater, fire pit

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Speaker 9: thing and I'm like, I didn't order this, what is this?

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Speaker 9: And then ended up being from Tom and he sent

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Speaker 9: me a bunch of stuff. I got a he gave

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Speaker 9: me like a personalized sign jersey, like it's you know,

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Speaker 9: and I don't know what, like what am I going

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Speaker 9: to get him? Like the flag with like you know,

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Speaker 9: keep keep keep on trucking. You know, I don't know you.

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Speaker 1: Could have you could have gotten a picture of the

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Speaker 1: Tuck roll play and just said, hey, I got your back,

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Speaker 1: like you could sign it and give that.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I don't know what do you get the

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Speaker 9: guy that has everything?

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Speaker 3: But we do.

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Speaker 9: We are doing it, probably that this this weekend coming up.

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Speaker 9: We're in Chicago. You know, we've been putting it off

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Speaker 9: because the crew hasn't been together. So we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 9: You know, I may or may not have Thomas with

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Speaker 9: for the secret Samma, So I might have a couple

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Speaker 9: of ideas.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, for what it's worth, Dean, we

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Speaker 4: got you a a fence on promo to listen.

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Speaker 2: To while you're waiting. So I mean, I hope you

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Speaker 2: I hope you're excited about that. So I do think

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Speaker 2: it'd be a good offensive. Hey Dane, don't be ragging

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Speaker 2: on our reads, man, don't. Don't you know we got

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Speaker 2: to do our reeds. You know, we got to pay

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Speaker 2: the bills, bro, Like.

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Speaker 9: You know, I know, I just didn't realize I got

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Speaker 9: the Ben Mallards show, I got the Odd Couple, I

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Speaker 9: got everybody.

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Speaker 1: Are you Are you doing something with your facial hair?

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Speaker 1: Like if we had a Gillette read could you do

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Speaker 1: that for us next time you come?

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Speaker 2: Eactly, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Happy New Year, Dean, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Happy do you guys?

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Speaker 4: Is Dean Blandino with us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: is a promo featuring Rob Parker and Ben Mallor you

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Speaker 4: gotta be dizzy by the time the show comes on.

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Speaker 4: But we are going to close up shop here on

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Speaker 4: There was a report that was that was put out

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Speaker 4: quote top tier of college coaches. A source says Freeman

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Speaker 4: signed a six year contract last year, and this revised

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Speaker 4: through twenty thirty one. Good, stay away from whatever diaper

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Speaker 4: fire the NFL's got opening this offseason. Just continue on there.

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Speaker 4: Why the hell would you leave when you can make

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Speaker 4: a good amount of money and be in a place

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Speaker 4: that loves you as opposed to someplace where they're going

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Speaker 4: to try and turn and burn you in two years

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Speaker 4: in a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's the truth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I think that's one way of

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Speaker 1: looking at I think the other thing that we've talked

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Speaker 1: about too throughout this entire process is control. When you

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Speaker 1: go to an NFL franchise, you have multiple things potentially

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Speaker 1: work against you.

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Speaker 2: You know how.

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Speaker 1: Involves the owner. Does the owner know what he's doing?

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Speaker 1: I mean, those things and that's the first couple questions.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do they have the resources to support you

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Speaker 1: the way you need to be supported and be competitive.

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Speaker 2: When I say that, like, we look at the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And roster construction, and oftentimes we don't realize that the

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Speaker 1: owners who have more cash or are willing to spend

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Speaker 1: more cash are those that can build their their roster

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Speaker 1: better through free agency, because that's what players want, and

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Speaker 1: that's how you work cash over cap. So you're able

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Speaker 1: to still be within the salary cap, but you know,

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Speaker 1: still be able to extend out players contracts, you know,

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Speaker 1: on votable years at the end, which will eventually it

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Speaker 1: still impacts your salary cap. But you also have to

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Speaker 1: have an owner who's okay on the times you miss

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Speaker 1: not just signing those guys and having the cash to

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Speaker 1: do so, but okay doing that knowing that they're not

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Speaker 1: all going to work out. So the NFL is a

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Speaker 1: completely different beast, completely different animal.

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Speaker 3: And there's so many that you.

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Speaker 1: Know, parts at play in regards to how your job's

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Speaker 1: impacted as a head coach in college football.

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, you're there, You're.

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Speaker 1: The top of the list, and and outside of you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe a few of the public figures, like a governor,

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Speaker 1: like in a state that you're in and look at

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Speaker 1: Lane Kivson's situation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're right up there.

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Speaker 1: Next to you know, the governor as far as and

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Speaker 1: probably the highest paid state employee. Shouldn't say probably is,

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Speaker 1: but also just as far as the influence you have.

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Speaker 1: So it's good for Notre Dame, it's good for Marcus Framan,

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Speaker 1: it's good for that team that I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: could have competed for national championship last year. This year

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Speaker 1: or are they coming up in twenty twenty six? Though

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Speaker 1: the quarterback back, they'll have still a number of pieces

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Speaker 1: on their offensive linel though a couple just declared for

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Speaker 1: the draft, their entire secondary. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: team that will compete again easily for a national championship

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 3: But I will ask you guys this, did you see

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Speaker 3: how they.

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Speaker 1: Announced that he's coming back, or how he announced what

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Speaker 1: he said? He just like sent out a tweet, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I said, let's run it back in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: which I'll ask you guys, like, should Notre Dame fans

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Speaker 1: be concerned about life beyond twenty twenty six with Marcus Freeman.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation every off season with.

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Speaker 2: Him, how well he's thought of. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's going That conversation isn't going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Better buckle up because let me let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, you have other really good head coaches,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day, Kirby Smart. Doesn't feel like they get the

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Speaker 1: same attention for NFIL jobs.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I.

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Speaker 1: Am naive to it because I am a Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: alum and I remember hearing stuff about Ryan Day, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was looked at for some potential NFL jobs, But

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Speaker 1: you heard it a lot more with Marcus this year.

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Speaker 1: And it's like it's nothing to take away from Marcus

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Speaker 1: has done. He's twenty four and four I think in

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Speaker 1: the last two years. But Ryan Dan and Kirby Smart

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Speaker 1: damn good coaches too, and they don't seem to get

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Speaker 1: quite as much attention. Or I don't know, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: it's media about those interviews.

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Speaker 4: I've always wondered that, like what makes and I think

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Speaker 4: we've had the conversation what makes certain coaches in college? Hey,

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Speaker 4: that could work at the end, and what makes others

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Speaker 4: perceiving what makes the perception of the others that it

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Speaker 4: wouldn't work in the NFL? Or why are they not

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Speaker 4: talked about as potential head coaching candidates, Like I've always

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Speaker 4: been fascinated by that because you look at Matt Ruhle.

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Speaker 2: Even before Matt Rule.

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Speaker 4: Took the Panthers job, there was conversations, Oh, that could

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Speaker 4: make some sense, like that could work. And you've heard

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Speaker 4: it about other coaches, Kirk Farence, Like there was stuff

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Speaker 4: about Kirk Farence. And I don't know if it's because

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Speaker 4: they spent time on staffs in the NFL, because Kirk

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Speaker 4: Saban and Belichick and all that. But I've wondered, why

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Speaker 4: is it those guys? Is it just a product of

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Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman looks more presentable.

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Speaker 2: I think there's something something there in terms of one,

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Speaker 2: maybe the messaging that's being put out there by you know,

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Speaker 2: whoever it may be, agency, whatever it may be. Maybe

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Speaker 2: one Two, I think that a guy like Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 2: has a lot of attractive qualities about what he could

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Speaker 2: bring to the table, and it does it checks off

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Speaker 2: a lot of boxes. I mean it's a younger man's game.

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Speaker 2: You see, these coaches are getting younger. They they have

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Speaker 2: certain certain ways of how they're able to interact with

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Speaker 2: with their their players that I think is has become

870
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: very very I guess sought after it could be, you know,

871
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: I I think there's a very To me, I feel

872
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: like there's a very very intentional type of of kind

873
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: of movement as it as it applies to Marcus Freeman

874
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: and how that could become a pro it could translate

875
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: into a pro gig. But I don't think you're wrong.

876
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think I've ever heard of Ryan

877
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: Day being considered like, oh gosh, they won the national title.

878
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: Da da da, Like here comes Ryan Day for or

879
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: pro job. Haven't heard it, No, never, I don't hear

880
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: even right now. Is to me, I feel like Dan

881
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: Landing is one of the hottest coaches in college as well,

882
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: and it's not a name that comes up for for

883
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: the pros. I don't hear his name coming up for

884
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: the pros. So it's interesting, right, Yeah, I mean, I

885
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: will say, I mean I didn't think too much of it,

886
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, now that you bring it up, sure, yeah.

887
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: By the way, Penn State just got an absolute stud.

888
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: The only problem is, I'm not sure he's going to

889
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: be there that long because I think he's in the

890
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: next like rockstar head coach m.

891
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: Danton Lynn. Baby yeah, liked him on his way from USC.

892
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't like him. I love him yet. First off,

893
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: you know where he plays you. This goes back to

894
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: the conversation we had when the Penn State job came open.

895
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: He is as far as a coordinator, He's at the

896
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: top of my list on any program that's looking for

897
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: the next head coach. That's like in the Marcus Freeman,

898
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: like Realm or Mole, Dan Lenz, that guy that's interesting.

899
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: I remember them as a player. To be honest, I

900
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: remember them.

901
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: I like it. I mean I thought their defense vastly

902
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: improved this year, and it made sense why a couple

903
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: couple of Penn Stators transferred I guess now to the USC.

904
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I saw the higher man is

905
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: at home, so I had an opportunity to talk to him.

906
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: He said that there had been some conversations, so he said,

907
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: everybody felt really really high about it, real good about it.

908
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: So it seems like there's some really good things going

909
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: on at the school right now. It seems like, you know,

910
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: things have kind of stabilized and now they're they're moving

911
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: forward towards, you know, getting getting the coaching staff solidified

912
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 2: with proper coaches, and really trying to work on the

913
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: recruiting classes, like getting some recruits to come. What was

914
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: the swag bag for the penstrack ball.

915
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 4: I don't know what you get, Like A and Judge jersey.

916
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: They got, they got New York they got, they got

917
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 2: game jerseys, pinstriped jerseys with their gay pinstriped jerseys. That's

918
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: not like a thing anymore, is it.

919
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, do you feel like you were at

920
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: the tail end of that.

921
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: I never wore them, so I don't.

922
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: I know you didn't, but I'm saying like there was

923
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: probably dudes you played with.

924
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: My lineback in mate Ward. And the weirdest thing is

925
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 2: our pants are see through, like back then, our pants

926
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: were see through. So as soon as he starts sweating,

927
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: it'd be like Mac, like, what you doing, bro? Like

928
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: we're compression shorts, Bro, Like nobody wants to see your

929
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: butt crack the entire and I mean the whole crack,

930
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: not like coming not plumber crack through your pants cracked

931
00:45:53,200 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: like what, I don't know, man, you know, I don't know.

932
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: I never did get into that. I could never get

933
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: into jockstraps, man, Like they weirded me out there. They so,

934
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: and they used to make you wear them and gym

935
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: class like you have to show your your your strap

936
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: to make sure that they knew you were wearing it.

937
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, like what hey, man?

938
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 3: You had to do it grown up in PA was different.

939
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: You had to Hey, we gotta be careful with that one.

940
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like, I ain't gonna touch that

941
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: one with a ten foot pole.

942
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

943
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you.

944
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 7: Had just take a drink and take a sip of

945
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 7: my water after.

946
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna have a comeback for that. It's

947
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: just not a it's not a go back and forth.

948
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: I'm going to get into that's all. But you had

949
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: to do it in you football too. You had to

950
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: pull your jock strap out to show that you have

951
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: your jockstrap.

952
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: On our out piece, our coach strap, our coach.

953
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: Coach Hansen used to walk by because he was also

954
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: a coach on the baseball team.

955
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: He'd have it in aluminum bat and you walk by

956
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: and go cup check which one worse? Show me your

957
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: strap or or pop it to make sure you had

958
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: the cup in, Like, come on, man, man your cup.

959
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: That was my own experience is like playing Catcher, having

960
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: to wear a cup, to wear a basic catchock strap,

961
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: and it was so uncomfortable like that. Just I was

962
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: like that, I can't wait till there's an improvement on this, geez.

963
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: And they've never improved it. It's just what it is.

964
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: It's just that's what it is.

965
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, you've never gambled in your

966
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: life unless you've played Catcher without without a cup, bro,

967
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: you felt like you were basically like riding a motorcycle,

968
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: no helmet, butt naked, like like, let's just stay how.

969
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: This plays out, it's got to be nerve wracking. Some

970
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I had to do it a couple

971
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: of times. Some guy dirts a fastball right in front

972
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: of it.

973
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: That was two of the most stressful times in my life.

974
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: And then it was like, all right, who's on the mound?

975
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: I proka he's good. I pray to God he can

976
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: make it all all seven in its kid, if we've

977
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: got a reliever coming in with a lot of like

978
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: junk ball, the different things like this is gonna get.

979
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: Dicey if you're gonna miss miss high.

980
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if it hit though? Like that's that

981
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: I can't make a sound type of pay.

982
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: So here's the thing is I caught up until like

983
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: my junior year of high school. And this is what

984
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: I'll say about that. It really it helps, but not

985
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: that much. Like it still hurts, dude, it would still hurt.

986
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: I got kicked one time and it was just like

987
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: it was like yeah, like there was not I couldn't

988
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: get no sound out. I couldn't get any sound out.

989
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: And then they say it there's like this old wise

990
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: tale like they start like trying to like you gotta

991
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: sit on the ground, and then they start bouncing you

992
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 2: off the ground. I don't know because they might put

993
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: them in your body. They might kick the ball, kick

994
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: the ball there.

995
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

996
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: I dropped down to the ground and my team weights

997
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 2: all right trying to get back. Do you know what

998
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: red light therapy could help it out?

999
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 3: Like I didn't know that was the thing.

1000
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: Put the red light on it. They had to come

1001
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: get me. That shell hurts so bad. Oh, I got it.

1002
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 2: I gotta feeling like I got a fantom feeling. It's nice.

1003
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: It's not good man good feeling to get hit there.

1004
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: By the way, this is the last thing I'll say

1005
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: on the subject.

1006
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: My wife, we were like having this conversation about like

1007
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: her having five kids in childbirth and how painful it is.

1008
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: And I said to her, I was like, you know,

1009
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: which would you rather have?

1010
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: Well I didn't say which, I just go, it's interesting

1011
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: because I understand this is a much bigger conversation. But

1012
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, you're willing to keep doing

1013
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: it again and again. I go, I would never want

1014
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: to get kicked in the nuts again. I've heard this

1015
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: discussion before and she's looked at me. Yeah, that's there,

1016
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: I go, I'll change the subject.

1017
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: Nobody go yeah, but that's true though they do choose

1018
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: the two again.

1019
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,880
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