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Speaker 1: Let's go to the.

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Speaker 2: Show, dear listener. We'll start the show today trying to

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Speaker 2: solve a little mystery, something that I've been kind of

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Speaker 1: You must know this iconic snap.

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Speaker 2: It's from this original black and white nineteen sixty's television.

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Speaker 1: Show Lee Absam The Adams Family.

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Speaker 2: I used to watch this show back when I was

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Speaker 2: a kid. I would run home from school to try

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Speaker 2: to make it so I didn't miss any of it.

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Speaker 2: But now you fast forward and Netflix just released season

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Speaker 2: two of Wednesday. It's the coming of age show following

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Speaker 2: the adventures of Wednesday Adams from the Adams Family. Here's

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Speaker 2: a clip from the show's trailer.

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Speaker 1: This is the first time you've ever willingly returned to

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Speaker 1: a school.

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Speaker 3: How does it.

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Speaker 4: Feel like returning to the scene of the crime.

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Speaker 1: I already know where the bodies are buried.

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Speaker 2: Now this is a big deal because season one of

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Speaker 2: Wednesday the TV Show shattered records at Netflix. It became

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Speaker 2: their most watched show ever globally, and the character of

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Speaker 2: Wednesday Herself, played by Jenna Ortega, became a cultural phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about the dance the Wednesday dans La.

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Speaker 4: Teenage lady gotgat goes full Wednesday jumping in on the

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Speaker 4: viral takes off trend inspired by Wednesday Herself, and.

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Speaker 3: It now bolds the record for the most hours viewed

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Speaker 3: for an English speaking show, securing three hundred and forty

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Speaker 3: one zero point two million hours viewed in its first week.

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Speaker 2: Now, throughout all of this, there has been a question

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Speaker 2: that has been bubbling up across social media regarding the

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Speaker 2: Adams family.

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Speaker 3: They're Latinos, their Mexic, They're half. His name is Gomez.

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Speaker 3: They're Latinos.

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Speaker 1: Wait, and yes, this YouTuber is right.

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Speaker 2: The name of the father in the show, in fact,

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Speaker 2: is Gomez Adams and his daughter.

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Speaker 3: Wednesday Adams is a Latina.

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Speaker 4: And here's the thing, guys, she's always been a Latina.

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Speaker 2: The actress Jenna Ortega revealed that her character is a Latina.

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Speaker 5: I also like give a lot of respect and appreciation

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Speaker 5: towards Netflix because they made it very clear from the

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Speaker 5: beginning when this project came around that they wanted her

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Speaker 5: to just kind of set the standard and solidify that.

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Speaker 1: But even with all that, not everyone agrees.

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Speaker 2: Is the Adams Family a representation of Latino culture.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious that the answer is no,

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Speaker 1: is the Adams Family Latino?

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Speaker 2: And to help answer this very important question, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to go straight to the source.

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Speaker 3: Oilla, Louise Maria, what a pleasure it is to see

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Speaker 3: you here.

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Speaker 2: That is the voice of actor Louis Guzman, who plays

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Speaker 2: Wednesday's dad, Gomez Adams in the show. He was born

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Speaker 2: in Puerto Rico. He grew up in New York City.

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Speaker 2: Louis Guzman has a decade's long career in Hollywood with

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Speaker 2: big hits from Miami Vice to Carlito's Way. You definitely

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Speaker 2: it's definitely so recognizable. So, Louise, is your character of Gomez,

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Speaker 2: is he in fact a lot more Latino?

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Speaker 3: Definitely more Latino? Because I still use words like KERI drama,

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Speaker 3: I speak about the chupacabra. I think besamemucho at dan tango.

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Speaker 2: His character Gomez Adams head roots in Spain when other

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Speaker 2: he's been able to make the version of Gomez Adams

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Speaker 2: more Latino. And the fact is that the majority of

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Speaker 2: the cast who plays the Adams family is indeed Latino

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Speaker 3: I don't know that's something that was done intentional on purpose,

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Speaker 2: There are references to Aztec gods in the show. There

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Speaker 2: are references to the ad Loos Moertos. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: family so on Adams, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't really label them. They could really be any family.

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Speaker 3: In this case. We do have certainly a Latino influence,

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Speaker 3: but it's a legacy family, you understand, because they started

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay okay.

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Speaker 2: So the Adams family could be a Latino family, but

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Speaker 2: an easy answer. But what is undeniable is that this

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Speaker 2: iconic family does share a lot of similar values that

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Speaker 2: Latinos and Latinas across the United States hold.

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Speaker 3: Dear to their hearts, were representing our community because for

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Speaker 3: a long time, yeah, I used to have to have

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Speaker 3: to the question, so you think, how do we finally

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Speaker 2: And quite frankly, does it really matter if they're Latino

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Speaker 2: or Latina because it's a family that connects with people

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Speaker 2: all over the world and from all different walks of life,

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Speaker 2: because their weirdness is like our own weirdness in our

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Speaker 2: own families.

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Speaker 1: They are like all of.

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Speaker 2: Us from Fudro Media, It's Latino USA.

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Speaker 1: I'm Maria no Josa.

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Speaker 2: Today a conversation with actor Louis Guzmann, who stars in

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Speaker 2: the Netflix show Wednesday. We talk about family values, Latino manhood, politics,

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Speaker 2: and the you know, kind of sort of Latino Adams Family. Louise,

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Speaker 2: your character certainly is having a very big moment on

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Speaker 2: season two of Wednesday, which is so funny because when

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Speaker 2: we were kids, the Adams Family was like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I watched it in all of its different shapes and forms,

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Speaker 2: and it was definitely quirky. It was kind of like dark, quirky, strange.

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Speaker 2: What do you remember because you were watching it too,

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Speaker 2: So what was that like?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it was like for me, it was like

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Speaker 3: I want to be part of that family. No, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because they were different, they were crazy, they had a

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Speaker 3: weirdness to it, but it was beautiful because they loved

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Speaker 3: each other. They looked out for each other in the

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Speaker 3: weirdest way and it worked. And I would run home

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Speaker 3: after school just to catch that show and just be

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Speaker 3: like that dad. You know, it's like the cookie and

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Speaker 3: the you know. So for me, the Adams family has

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Speaker 3: always been generational and to be doing it now and

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Speaker 3: stepping into that, there's not a bes cultural in this

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Speaker 3: world that you can give me that can take that

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Speaker 2: I think the other thing was that they didn't judge.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was different, everybody had their things, There was mister

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Speaker 2: it and there was no judgment.

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Speaker 1: And I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think there is an issue of we're a family

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Speaker 2: and we just give each other space. Do you think

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Speaker 2: that people are identifying with the Adams family.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, because we are an outcast family. I find that

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Speaker 3: we don't have to hide anything We love who we are.

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Speaker 3: It's the world that views us as outcasts, and we're

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Speaker 3: okay with that. So when you do consider the state

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Speaker 3: of the world nowadays and being able to watch a

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Speaker 3: show like this, it just helps because I know that

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Speaker 3: so many young people struggle with just trying to fit in.

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Speaker 3: And I always say, you don't have to fit in.

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Speaker 3: The world has to fit into you. You don't have

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Speaker 3: to fit into it. Love yourself. You're different, that's okay,

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Speaker 3: that's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Your character, Gomez.

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Speaker 2: He is quirky, no doubt, he's got a particular way

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Speaker 2: of kind of moving in the world. But he's also

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Speaker 2: love for his daughter, for his wife, for his family.

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Speaker 2: You get the sense that he's like the family guy

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Speaker 2: who's taking care of everybody.

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Speaker 3: I stepped into it and I understood Gomez. I understood

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Speaker 3: what he meant not only to himself as a man,

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Speaker 3: but what he meant to his fai family, to his

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Speaker 3: amplify that and just show all the emotions because growing

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Speaker 3: up in a household and a Latino household as a

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Speaker 3: it just now just comes organically because I'm in touch

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Speaker 3: with my emotions more than ever. I've gone through a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff in my own personal life that it's

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Speaker 3: okay to cry, it's okay to vent, it's okay to

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Speaker 3: let it out, it's okay to hear another man and

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Speaker 3: encourage them to have that conversation. And I take a

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Speaker 2: Louise, I wasn't planning on asking you this question, but

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Speaker 2: when you say things like I've gone through a lot,

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Speaker 2: what are you talking about? When we come back, Louise

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Speaker 2: Gusban answers that question, stay with us, Yes, Hey, we're back.

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Speaker 2: When we left off, I was speaking with actor Louis

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Speaker 2: Gusban from the Netflix hit Wednesday, and I was asking

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the conversation.

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Speaker 3: We lived in Greenwich Village from nineteen sixty to nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 3: That was like the best time to be growing up,

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Speaker 3: grew up a hippie, and I was proud of that

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Speaker 3: When we moved to the Lower east Side, I lost

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Speaker 3: then I also lost my first son. And you just

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Speaker 3: You got to make peace with yourself, make peace with others,

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Speaker 3: because I heard long time ago from an older friend

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Speaker 3: of mine said, don't hold grudges, Papa, because they become

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Speaker 3: toxic in you. And so there were a lot of

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Speaker 3: beautiful lessons that I learned from all the older guys

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Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that, Louise, and I'm really sorry

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Speaker 2: about your son. Gets why a lot of people, once

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Speaker 2: they get to know you as an artist, they really

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Speaker 2: become fascinated by so many aspects of your life and

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Speaker 2: your vulnerability.

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Speaker 3: Which can I just have one thing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 3: So I lost my first son. His name is and

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Speaker 3: he was the one that planted some seeds. And what

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Speaker 3: I mean by that, I had ended up adopting four

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Speaker 3: They're all beautiful adults in this world now. So even

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Speaker 3: Number one, I think they were misguided. Number two, I

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Speaker 3: First of all, what I say happening in this country

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Speaker 1: So Luis, how do you recommend that people have these conversations.

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Speaker 3: Well, my recommendation to them is, see what's going on

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Speaker 3: Not everybody is a criminal. For that matter, look at

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Speaker 3: you know, the way it had Its terrible, It's really terrible.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I've admired from Afar about you, Louise,

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Speaker 2: there you are on stage with Bad Bunny in his

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Speaker 2: They were like we mother, It was so adorable. When

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Speaker 3: Well, as far as Benito goes.

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Speaker 1: We listen to you. Benito, damn.

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Speaker 3: I'm really proud of him because he's putting not only

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Speaker 3: I'm part of that bandwagon and so many other people are.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that he's he's using that he's utilizing

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Speaker 3: this and he's so My mother had to saying, delo bueno. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm vocal, okay, and that's what we are.

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Speaker 1: So Louise, just to wrap up, what do you want?

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Speaker 2: I mean again, the show Wednesday, you know, bringing people

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Speaker 3: I want you to take the love with them. I

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Speaker 3: want them to take that being weird is okay. You

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Speaker 3: know that being an outcast is not the worst thing

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Speaker 3: in the world, that there are many like you, that

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Speaker 3: so walk away with all the love and to say, wow,

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Speaker 1: I love that so much.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, We'll I just gonna ask you, as

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Speaker 2: Luis Guzman, for making time.

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