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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Absolute chaos last

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Speaker 2: night on college campuses from the East to the West

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Speaker 2: coast of the United States. Joe Biden responds this morning

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Speaker 2: by deciding to give you six billion dollars more national

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Speaker 2: debt for art graduates.

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Speaker 1: This is real.

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Speaker 2: Also, CBS reports that the White House is planning to

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Speaker 2: settle Gaza refugees, the same people that Egypt will not take,

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Speaker 2: the same people that just murdered twelve hundred innocent Jews.

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Speaker 2: They want the Biden administration does for you and me

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Speaker 2: and all of America to open our arms to the

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Speaker 2: cold blooded killers there. This does not feel like a

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Speaker 2: very good decision. In many ways, it feels like the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration is actually trying to lose. They feel so

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Speaker 2: tone deaf and so out of touch with America that

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Speaker 2: every single day there is more evidence building that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden is the worst president in any of our lives

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Speaker 2: and is hapless and unable to find the right way

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Speaker 2: to bring America together. Remember, he famously claimed, based on

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Speaker 2: a lie, of course, that after Charlottesville he felt compelled

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Speaker 2: to run for president of the United States. Well, now

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Speaker 2: there are hundreds, if not thousands of Charlottesville's taking place

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Speaker 2: all over the country and Biden is doing nothing to

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Speaker 2: stop it. Buck last night, credit to the NYPD who

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Speaker 2: Columbia finally called in to reclaim their property after idiot

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Speaker 2: protesters took over campus buildings to face them significantly based

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Speaker 2: on the videos that are being shared this morning of

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Speaker 2: what they did inside of those buildings. Simultaneously, a mass

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Speaker 2: brawl effectively broke out at UCLA where Jewish students were

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Speaker 2: not being permitted to enter many different parts of campus,

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Speaker 2: and that finally required an action to be taken from

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Police Department to come in at the

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Speaker 2: UCLA encampment. Two different sides of the country, New York

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Speaker 2: and LA, both out of control, both virulently anti Semitic

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Speaker 2: in a way frankly that has never occurred that I

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Speaker 2: have seen in my life. The left is sick. Biden

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Speaker 2: has no answer because the Identity politics coalition that elected

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Speaker 2: him is made up still of Jewish and Arab individuals,

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Speaker 2: and so he's trying to both sides it. He's trying

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Speaker 2: to do what he claimed Trump did false at Charlottesville,

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Speaker 2: and he's been doing it for six months. I think

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Speaker 2: we have a couple of clips here that I want

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Speaker 2: and frankly, some of the Columbia related incidents may have

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Speaker 2: happened after many of you tuned out for the night

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Speaker 2: and we're not paying attention.

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Speaker 1: And so I want to play.

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Speaker 2: Here is ABC seven helicopter reporter Chris Christy, not the

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Speaker 2: former governor of New Jersey, up in the air reporting

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Speaker 2: on what he was seeing. I shared this video. We'll

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Speaker 2: get Clay and Buck to share it as well. If

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Speaker 2: you're wondering what he was seeing. Three hours of riots

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Speaker 2: on UCLA's campus, no law enforcement intervention at all. Here

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Speaker 2: is what he was reporting last night on the ABCLA affiliate.

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Speaker 3: Somebody is being beaten with a stick and punches in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the launch. Somebody is being badly beaten

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Speaker 3: at the bottom of that brawl right there. Look at that.

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Speaker 1: Look at that.

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Speaker 3: Somebody is being dragged and beaten in the front of

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Speaker 3: that that plywood wall. Just incredible, Like where are the police?

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Speaker 3: Where is security? Where are these people? But just are

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Speaker 3: where is authority here? It is something I have never

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Speaker 3: covered without any sign of enforcement, law enforcement security, whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: This has gone now on for over an hour and

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, this is the March of the mouthcontents,

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Speaker 4: and there are so many different pieces coming together here.

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Speaker 4: First off, it is fascinating to watch how the Gaza

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Speaker 4: protesters or whatever we call manti Israel, the lunatics, but

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Speaker 4: really confused. They seem to think that they're also in

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Speaker 2: We need to play those clips. We need to play

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Speaker 2: these clips too. That was going to be the next

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Speaker 4: I mean, the uclathing was interesting just beca because you

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Speaker 4: the intimidation and the cry baby antics of not only students,

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Speaker 4: but remember there's a lot of professional agitators. When we

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Speaker 4: told you this is basically BLM three point zero, as in,

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Speaker 4: this is the institutional protest left, the Elynski left, That's

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Speaker 4: you were arrested during the BLM protests as well. Who

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Speaker 4: are on these campuses in New York. There were at

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Speaker 4: people reported by the NYPD who have nothing to do

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Speaker 4: you're not even a Columbia student and you're out there.

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Speaker 1: Like free, free Palestine.

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Speaker 4: You're in some tent on the ground with a bunch

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Speaker 4: I mean, this was my favorite, uh my favorite moment

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Speaker 4: of all the videos we've seen, and there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of it we'll talk about a lot today.

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Speaker 1: Was this woman who was speaking on behalf of the protesters.

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Speaker 4: They had seized Hamilton Hall right at Columbia University, and

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Speaker 4: and she's speaking about how you know this is this

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Speaker 4: is a very upsetting moment for them because they're basically

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Speaker 4: in a humanitarian crisis.

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Speaker 1: And they need the school to give.

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Speaker 4: Them or to allow them or bring them food in

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Speaker 4: this situation. I will say I'll give David from credit

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Speaker 4: for this one. He tweeted out, Clay, you see that

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Speaker 4: the revolution will be catered? That one, which is pretty good.

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Speaker 5: That is really very very funny that a great ed

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Speaker 5: here is one of these students demanding that you know,

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Speaker 5: they need human rights respected as well at Columbia, they

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Speaker 5: need food to be brought to them.

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Speaker 1: Play it.

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Speaker 6: Obligated to provide food to people who've taken over a building.

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Speaker 7: Well, for first of all, we're saying that they're obligated

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Speaker 7: to provide food to students who pay for a meal here.

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned that.

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Speaker 6: There was a requested that food and water be brought

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Speaker 7: I to allow it to be brought in. I mean, well,

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Speaker 7: I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of

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Speaker 7: community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students.

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Speaker 7: Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation

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Speaker 7: or get severely ill even if they disagree with you.

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Speaker 7: If the answer is no, then you should allow basic

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Speaker 7: I mean it's crazy to say because we're on an

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Speaker 7: we're asking for, Like could people please to have a

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Speaker 4: This is amazing, almost spit by drink out humanitarian aid?

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Speaker 4: What because she has to walk ten blocks to Zabars.

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Speaker 4: Think about this for a second. This is wild. That's

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Speaker 4: don't know, this is wild arvation.

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Speaker 2: We also have a second part here where she gets

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Speaker 2: grilled even more and somebody just listen to part two

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Speaker 2: this and then Buck, I don't know if you did

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Speaker 2: you see who that this, this student in that you

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Speaker 2: are hearing talk this leader of the Columbia revolution on

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Speaker 2: behalf of hamas this student do you know what her

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Speaker 2: major is?

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Speaker 1: Buck?

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Speaker 4: O Oh, I've got it all or we're gonna I've

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Speaker 4: got it all here, I've got all the reasons.

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Speaker 2: So I just this is a student, a PhD student

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Speaker 2: at Columbia who is talking.

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Speaker 1: Here is a follow up. I give credit to the

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Speaker 2: Following up say hey, you know you're kind of stage

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Speaker 2: in a revolution and also demanding that the university bringing

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Speaker 2: you food. Here's part two of this brilliant dissertation here

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Speaker 2: from this Columbia student.

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Speaker 6: But they didn't put themselves in that very deliberate thing,

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Speaker 6: in that situation and in that position. So it seems

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Speaker 6: like you're start of saying, we want to be revolutionari,

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Speaker 6: so we want to take up this building. Now, would

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Speaker 6: you please bring us some food on water?

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Speaker 7: Nobody's asking them to bring anything everything. We're asking them

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Speaker 7: to not violently stop us from bringing in basic humanitarian aid.

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Speaker 8: They're stopping that delivery of food.

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Speaker 7: We are looking for a commitment from them that they will.

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Speaker 1: Not stop it by having stop it.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't I don't know to what extent it

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Speaker 7: has been attempted, but we're looking for a commitment Clay.

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Speaker 4: She's basically saying, we need Uber Eats drivers to be

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Speaker 4: able to come to the campus building we have seized

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Speaker 4: or else you are literally killing us because we're starving

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Speaker 4: to death and you're blocking humanitarian aid. But you see

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Speaker 4: when people use the term costplay, like costume plays and

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Speaker 4: moment because they are acting like they are in Gaza

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Speaker 4: and they are cut off from humanitarian aid, but they're

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Speaker 4: doing so on an Ivy League campus in Manhattan on

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Speaker 4: the Upper West Side. And the notion also they would

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Speaker 4: they would die of dehydration. No one shut off water

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Speaker 4: that's a whole other thing, but every bathroom has water.

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Speaker 4: No one's dying of dehydration this place. But it just

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Speaker 4: shows what a bunch of pampered, narcissistic.

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Speaker 1: Loans they are. Do you want to get into some

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Speaker 1: of do you have?

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Speaker 4: I have an excerpt from that spokeswoman's bioph Okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Want to hear the exp Let me let me read

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Speaker 2: what I've got for you, because you guys are gonna

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Speaker 2: all love this. I actually was wondering what her So,

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Speaker 2: this is what this person you just heard from? Do

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Speaker 2: you ever name? It's like Slutkin or something, right, Slutski

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Speaker 2: is the name that was reported Slutski. So that is

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Speaker 2: PhD student Slutsky. Just the fact, what an amazing Just

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Speaker 2: the facts. Here is what she is doing her PhD in.

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Speaker 2: This is from her biography. My dissertation is on Fantasies

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Speaker 2: of limitless energy in the Transatlantic Romantic Imagination from seventeen

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Speaker 2: sixty to eighteen sixty. My goal is to write a

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Speaker 2: prehistory of metabolic rift, Marxist term for the disruption of

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Speaker 2: interested in theories of the imagination and poetry as interpreted

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Speaker 2: through a Marxian lens, in order to update and propose

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Speaker 2: an alternative to historicist ideological critiques of the Romantic imagination.

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Speaker 2: Prior to joining Columbia, I worked as a political strategist

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Speaker 2: for leftist and progressive causes and remain active in the

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Speaker 2: higher education labor movement. I'm sorry our country has failed.

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Speaker 2: When someone can get a pH d in this, I'm

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Speaker 2: just this is worthless. When sometimes people say why do

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Speaker 2: you call them communists? I always just have to look

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Speaker 1: This woman's a communist.

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Speaker 4: I mean she's devoted her life to vague Marxist theory

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Speaker 4: and education labor organization. Under any real, reasonable definition of

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Speaker 4: the communist ideology, this woman's a comedy, okay, And a

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Speaker 4: lot of these people on this campus are comedies.

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Speaker 1: That's why I call them that.

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Speaker 4: And what she wrote is it's amazing. It doesn't mean anything,

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Speaker 4: it makes no sense. It's actually gibberish. But what you

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Speaker 4: realize with the communists, and this is true for this

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Speaker 4: has been true for over one hundred years, is the

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Speaker 4: usage of jargon. And this kind of terminology is essentially

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Speaker 4: about showing people your devotion to the movement.

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Speaker 1: It is you're.

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Speaker 4: Supposed to say nonsense because the nonsense proves that you

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Speaker 1: Do we have more.

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Speaker 1: And this is what you get. You realize this is

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Speaker 1: Now its movement in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: That these protests on campus have been broken up in

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Speaker 2: So what will you guys do when the police come

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining us. Would you have ever believed that

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Speaker 8: You know, we've seen protests over generations on college campuses

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Speaker 8: People who are saying October seventh, the tragic, horrific attack

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Speaker 4: Speaking to Telsey Gabbers, you got a book that just

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Speaker 4: right back into it. We just had a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a comms issue there. So why is it so

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Speaker 4: hard for Biden in this White House to have moral

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Speaker 8: You know, it's very telling that President Biden himself has

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Speaker 8: not spoken out about these protests happening in campuses across

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Speaker 8: the country. And it's coming from one of two places.

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Speaker 8: One is he's either intellectually incapable of making the argument

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Speaker 8: and distinction to say, yes, I stand against anti Semitism

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Speaker 8: and I stand against radical Islamist terrorists like Hamas and

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Speaker 8: the ideology that they are propagating, or he is terrified

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Speaker 8: of being called an islamophobe, which is why he is

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Speaker 8: being silent and cannot make that statement that I just

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Speaker 8: made with strength and clarity and unequivocation. We look at

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Speaker 8: the lack of rule of law being enforced, how basic

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Speaker 8: law enforcement are being called in long after these people

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Speaker 8: have been disrupting the peace and making these campuses unsafe

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Speaker 8: for others. President Biden is so terrible of losing a

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Speaker 8: few votes amongst those who are pro Hamas or Hamas apologists,

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Speaker 8: that he is failing at this very moment when the

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Speaker 8: country needs to hear with a clear voice from the

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Speaker 8: President of the United States that in this free country,

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Speaker 8: Jewish people, everyone must be allowed to walk safely and

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Speaker 8: free in our society. You know, you look again, another

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Speaker 8: issue where there's a clear contrast between President Trump and

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Speaker 8: President Biden. I heard President Trump's statement loud and clear

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Speaker 8: that was similar to the one that I just stated,

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Speaker 8: pointing to the action that should be taken, and yet

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Speaker 8: President Biden is completely silent at this moment.

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Speaker 2: Paul, See, you and I have a similar political evolution.

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Speaker 2: I think in many ways, I voted Democrat, you were

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Speaker 2: a Democrat in Congress, and then I think we both

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Speaker 2: started seeing all the craziness going on. One of the

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Speaker 2: reasons why I think you would make an intriguing VP

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Speaker 2: choice for Trump is because you could speak to maybe

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the people out there who

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Speaker 2: have had a similar political evolution as you and I

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Speaker 2: have and are out there willing to vote for someone

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Speaker 2: different if they acknowledge the fact that they have had

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Speaker 2: that political evolution. Do you think you could make that

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Speaker 2: case as Trump's VP two independent voters who might not

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Speaker 2: have been willing to vote for him in sixteen or

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Speaker 2: twenty And what would you say if Trump came to

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Speaker 2: you and said, Tulsi, I think you're the right choice

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Speaker 2: for VP for me, I think you're still a registered independent.

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Speaker 2: Would you be willing to become a Republican to run

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Speaker 2: and make that case?

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Speaker 8: A few important points you brought up there, Clay, Yes,

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Speaker 8: I am uniquely able to connect with people across the

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Speaker 8: country who have walked a similar path that you and

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Speaker 8: I have, regardless of their political affiliation. They may still

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Speaker 8: be Democrats, they may have left the Democratic Party, but

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Speaker 8: people who are looking for someone to say, hey, come

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Speaker 8: and stand with us as Americans who love our country,

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Speaker 8: who cherish peace and freedom, and who are deeply concerned

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Speaker 8: about how the Biden Heris administration is undermining some of

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Speaker 8: the most fundamental principles that make our country what it

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Speaker 8: is that make this country great. I have no doubt

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Speaker 8: because I've been already connecting and hearing from people who

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Speaker 8: saw what I said when I left the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 8: who are starting to read my book and say, hey,

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Speaker 8: my gosh, this is exactly what I've been feeling and

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Speaker 8: what I've been thinking. This is an essential opportunity to

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Speaker 8: bring people together at a time when we need it

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Speaker 8: in order to save our country. If President Trump asked

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Speaker 8: me to serve as his running mate to help beat

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in this election so that

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Speaker 8: we can begin the important work of saving our country,

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Speaker 8: I would be honored to do so, and I would

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Speaker 8: work tirelessly to make this happen, because, like him, like you,

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Speaker 8: like most Americans, I love our country, and I believe

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Speaker 8: that we can save our country, but only if we

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Speaker 8: take action now.

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Speaker 4: And Tolsie, have you and the President spoken recently? Just

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Speaker 4: curious what you can tell us. I know you did

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Speaker 4: a fundraiser with him a little while back at mar

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Speaker 4: A Lago. I'm wondering, one if you've at least had

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Speaker 4: conversations with him about how you would like to help

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Speaker 4: in a future Trump administration, and if not, if you

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Speaker 4: can't speak to that. I also wanted to know just

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Speaker 4: what you think about what's going on. You mentioned love

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Speaker 4: of country. I think it's very hard for anyone to

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Speaker 4: see what's going on in New York City and not

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Speaker 4: feel like something very fundamental about this nation is being

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Speaker 4: damaged when a political well the nominee effectively for a

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Speaker 4: political party, is being used in this way and attacked

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Speaker 4: in this way.

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Speaker 8: Yes, President Trump and I have spoken, and I won't

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Speaker 8: share the contents of a private conversation, but he knows,

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Speaker 8: he knows what motivates me. He knows my loyalty and

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Speaker 8: my commitment to serving our country. And I look forward

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Speaker 8: to and I'm hopeful of the opportunity to be able

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Speaker 8: to be in a position where we cannot only get

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Speaker 8: our domestic policy back on track, but also get our

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Speaker 8: foreign policy in order and walk us back from the

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Speaker 8: brink of World War three and nuclear war. What's happening here,

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Speaker 8: and I'm calling you from New York City today, where

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Speaker 8: President Biden and his administration are engaging in this law

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Speaker 8: fair tying up the presumptive Republican nominee in court as

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Speaker 8: long as possible and wherever possible to keep him off

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Speaker 8: the campaign trail and drain him of time and resources.

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Speaker 8: I just I hope that more and more Americans are

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Speaker 8: seeing what they are doing for what it is and

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Speaker 8: how undemocratic it is. This is undermining our democracy and

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Speaker 8: our ability as Americans to have a free and fair election,

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Speaker 8: the thing that Democrats claim to stand for, they are

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Speaker 8: the ones who are actually undermining our democracy. We have

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Speaker 8: to point out that truth and make sure that those

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Speaker 8: who aren't watching it as closely as you and I

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Speaker 8: may be understand the reality about what's going on and

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Speaker 8: the doubles speak and hypocrisy between what the Democrat elites

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Speaker 8: say and what they're actually doing, because what they're doing

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Speaker 8: is dangerous.

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Speaker 2: I agree with just about everything you're saying, Tulsi. Some

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Speaker 2: people will call into us, they will email us, and

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Speaker 2: they will say, well, given the fact that Trump is

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Speaker 2: seventy seven years old, I believe and he's going to

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Speaker 2: be if he wins in twenty twenty four, an older president,

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Speaker 2: the oldest president right alongside of that we could possibly

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Speaker 2: have you might, as VP have to end up being

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Speaker 2: the president. I mean, that's a real concern with obviously

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. It would be the same concern with Trump,

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Speaker 2: even more so with Age. It's always a concern with VP.

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Speaker 2: What would you say to people who say she's a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I could trust her, given she's

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Speaker 2: going to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

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Speaker 8: I'm not a Democrat. I've always been an independent minded person.

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Speaker 8: I left the Democratic Party almost two years ago. More

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Speaker 8: important than that, though, I would just encourage people to

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Speaker 8: listen to what I'm saying, not only now, but what

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Speaker 8: I have been saying and the things that I have

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Speaker 8: been working on for our country for quite some time.

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Speaker 8: I was no sweetheart of the Democratic Party while I

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Speaker 8: was in Congress, specifically because I challenged them on the

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Speaker 8: issues where they were undermining our country's interests, the interests

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Speaker 8: of the American people, and called them out when they

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Speaker 8: were wrong. There are going to be some issues we

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Speaker 8: agree on or disagree on, but fundamentally I am committed

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Speaker 8: to protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States,

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Speaker 8: taking that oath that I swore both as a member

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Speaker 8: of Congress and as a soldier, where I still serve

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Speaker 8: to heart. This is an unwavering commitment, and my desire

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Speaker 8: to serve the American people is rooted in that commitment.

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Speaker 4: We have a link up Tulsi's book at Clayanbuck dot com,

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Speaker 4: so we want to go and get your copy today.

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Speaker 4: For love of country, leave the Democrat Party behind, Tulsi.

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Speaker 4: We always appreciate when you make time for us, and

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Speaker 4: we hope down the line there's some exciting news about

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Speaker 4: how you can continue to serve the country in a

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Speaker 4: new role. So thank you for being with.

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Speaker 8: Us, Thanks for having me on. Clay, great to talk

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Speaker 8: to you.

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Speaker 1: Aloha Helloha.

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Speaker 4: So Clay, I got to say, it would be very interesting,

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Speaker 4: and I think that there's a lot that.

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Speaker 1: Would come from adding.

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Speaker 4: Her into the the situation with Donald Trump. I believe

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Speaker 4: that she's I mean, she's a convert effectively. I don't

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Speaker 4: think that she's somebody who still harbors I mean, you

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Speaker 4: can tell she has seen the Democrat beast and does

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Speaker 4: not want to be any part of it anymore, and

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Speaker 4: has really left that party. And I think to your

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Speaker 4: point about if you're trying to win over independence and people,

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Speaker 4: you know you got right wing ground pounders like me

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Speaker 4: who are like I've been right wing since I could

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Speaker 4: spell my name. Yeah, yeah, well you know we got

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Speaker 4: a lot of those listening right now, obviously, But if

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Speaker 4: you want to win over some of those middle of

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Speaker 4: the road folks or some of those people who are

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Speaker 4: the persuadables, I think somebody who has herself been persuaded,

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Speaker 4: truly persuaded.

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Speaker 1: I see. I believe in her conversion.

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Speaker 4: I mean, having spoken to her privately and personally, I

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Speaker 4: don't think she's playing some game now. I think she knows,

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, the Democrats are destroying the country. I

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Speaker 4: got to stop this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I would be curious to hear from some of y'all

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Speaker 2: out there who heard that interview.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.

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Speaker 2: I think she's firmly in the mix to be the

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Speaker 2: next vice president for Trump. I think Trump likes her

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Speaker 2: the reason I like her, and I'm not picking who

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Speaker 2: I think would be the best VP. I've said that

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Speaker 2: I think Tim Scott is going to be the pick,

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Speaker 2: and I still do. But the thing that I like

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Speaker 2: about her is, obviously you heard the question. I have

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Speaker 2: had a similar political evolution as her, and I think

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Speaker 2: sometimes when you've seen that evolution, you are more committed

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Speaker 2: than somebody might have been if you've been a Republican

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Speaker 2: for forty years. I think she's scared of where she

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Speaker 2: sees the country going. And I just told you I

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Speaker 2: feel like right now, from a metaphor perspective back in

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Speaker 2: the day, this is like a stage coach that's out

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Speaker 2: of control. I don't know how many of you feel this,

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Speaker 2: but if you remember the old Western when the horses

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Speaker 2: suddenly started to run and the stage coaches bucking along behind,

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Speaker 2: something's bad's happening.

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Speaker 1: That's where we are. I feel like