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Speaker 1: your team win. Let's go. We're here to break it

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Speaker 1: all down. Ye god, this is Fox Sports Radios Countdown

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Speaker 1: from your tailgame. Here's Brian Nook, former Penn State All American,

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Speaker 1: Rich Ornberger, and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on? Welcome in here full slay

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Speaker 2: the ball this weekend. Oh, we are ready to go.

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Speaker 2: We got Rich Hornberger in La Let's see your the

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Speaker 2: zoom chat over here.

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Speaker 3: Very nice.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing over there? Good morning Jared Smith

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Speaker 2: as well, But what are you doing in La there?

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Speaker 4: Richell made the short trek up from San Diego for

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Speaker 4: my niece Lily's baby showers, So congratulations to her and Mason.

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Speaker 4: They're about to have a newborn here soon. In the interim,

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Speaker 4: I brave the rain. I did something that very few

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Speaker 4: Southern Californias have to do all that often. This is

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Speaker 4: very different area of the United States compared to the

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Speaker 4: middle to the Midwest, the Northeast where I grew up

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Speaker 5: And it was like bumper cars last night.

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Speaker 4: I mean we sat in four hours of traffic because

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Speaker 4: people were just slamming into each other. So yeah, but

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Speaker 4: I made it no worse for wear. And then I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna be driving right back down today for kickoff at

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Speaker 4: seven thirty between San Diego State and Boise State. We

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Speaker 4: got a Mount West Conference showdown that may decide who

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Speaker 4: hosts a title.

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Speaker 5: Game in the conference. I'm gonna be on the call

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Speaker 5: for that.

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Speaker 4: So it's a busy, a busy weekend of many celebrations

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Speaker 4: for the Ornberger over here.

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Speaker 6: Okay, very nice, it's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Happy to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I've got a ranch, oh boy, to begin

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Speaker 2: the show. I don't know if you guys have you know,

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Speaker 2: like wiped your your the crust out of your eyes

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Speaker 2: and you're ready to go for a you know, a

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Speaker 6: The get go. I don't know you're ready.

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Speaker 4: Ay.

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Speaker 2: It's actually something I love and something I hate, Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we'll start with the positive. Something I love. It

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Speaker 2: was last night's game. It was Clemson coming from behind

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Speaker 2: and the competitiveness that Dabosweeney showed. Right, So we take

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Speaker 2: you back to last night. Clemson beat Louisville twenty to nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Clemson was trailing in the fourth quarter nineteen to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: They came back and won and won the game. It's

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Speaker 2: their first fourth quarter comeback win this season. They were

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Speaker 2: last night. It's their first win. And so with less

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Speaker 2: right less than two minutes ago. It's a big kick,

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Speaker 2: and I loved it, man, Like he's all about competition.

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Speaker 2: You think about Clemson and the season that they've had. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: They were four and five heading into the game last night.

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Speaker 2: They were expected to win the ACC they were expected

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Speaker 2: I loved the competitive spirit that they showed last night.

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Speaker 2: Just keep that in mind, what you saw last night,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that win. Look, here's what I'll say about Dabo Sweeney.

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Speaker 4: He has he has strong opinions on the future and

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Speaker 4: And so Dabo's really got to do some soul searching

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Speaker 5: But what I will say is Dabo's a football man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And when you see that level of elation and

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Speaker 4: Wins do not come easy. It doesn't matter if it

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if it's a pitcher's duel and you

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if it's a come from behind victory.

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Speaker 4: They're all hard. They're all hard. You put so much

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Speaker 4: really more like good, yes, excellent, elation short, but you're

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Speaker 4: some random inconference win down the stretch of a poor year.

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Speaker 4: Good for Dabo because the fire is still alive in

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Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody's going to take that away from him. I

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Speaker 6: It really should have been they really should have lost

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Speaker 7: They won, and it was a great moment for Dabbo.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna, you know, throw

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Speaker 7: they're back to five hundred and the ACC, Like, I

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Speaker 7: has been a five loss year for Clemson and they'll

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Speaker 7: the AutoZone Liberty Bowl or whatever whatever's Like the ACC

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Speaker 6: Very gettable.

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Speaker 7: I mean eight and one, seven and two would have

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Speaker 6: But they're not even gonna come close to that. No,

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Speaker 2: And the ACC is a total grease fire. Right, We've

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Speaker 2: like Duke, please lose, Duke, please lose.

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Speaker 6: Duke.

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Speaker 2: Don't win Duke. If Duke wins this conference, they might

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Speaker 2: It's insane what's happening over here. But but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just I look, you're right, Jared, it's been a completely

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Speaker 2: down year for Clemson, total disappointment. But you know as

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Speaker 2: They competed last night and I love I absolutely love that.

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Speaker 2: Where Dabo's not like I've won titles here. This is

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Speaker 2: You know, He's like, there's a game tonight, I'm trying

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Speaker 2: All I care about is this game right here, right now.

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Speaker 2: I love all that stuff. Now, this is what I hated.

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Speaker 2: This would be Pitt head coach Pat Nardoozi, which is

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Speaker 2: the polar opposite of what we saw last night from

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Speaker 2: Dabos Sweeney. Dabo Sweeney's jumping into the arms of an

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Speaker 2: it's the biggest win ever, which I adore. I love

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Speaker 2: that competitiveness. Pat Nardoozie of Pitt so Pitt hosts Notre

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Speaker 2: He feels like this is a must win for the team.

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Speaker 8: I Pump said absolutely, no, you know, it is not

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Speaker 8: an ACC game. I'm I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 8: It's not an ACC game, you know. I gladly get

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Speaker 8: two After that, but again, our focus is on Notre

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Speaker 2: What a statement right there, like they could beat us

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Speaker 2: bite one hundred, and then he caps it off. He's

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Speaker 2: thinking like, I probably shouldn't have said that's but we

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Speaker 2: want to win every game. It doesn't sound like it, Coach,

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Speaker 2: doesn't sound like it at all. Where is your competitiveness?

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Speaker 6: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: You're the leader of a team and you're like, that

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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter if we lose by one hundred to

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Are you kidding me? This is just such

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Speaker 2: a joke for him to have that message if he

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Speaker 2: frames it a different way and prefaces it with, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: the acc games are of added importance. And then quickly,

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Speaker 2: but we want to win every game. You kid met

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Speaker 2: college game day in town. Top ten Notre Dame team.

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Speaker 2: It's a great challenge for us. He didn't say any

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Speaker 4: As cliche as it is when somebody asks you, you know.

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Speaker 4: Do you think he's gonna want to hear you talk

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Speaker 5: And he tried to recast.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's done this, but this is not a first

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Speaker 2: I mean it google foot in mouth all Pat Nardoozi.

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Speaker 7: I think that you know, you need to have as

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Speaker 6: Like yeah, you know, we're you know, we're looking past

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Speaker 7: It's rare that the double digit underdog gives the favorite

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Speaker 6: Material like that. Like it's just it's like, I don't

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Speaker 7: It's like a strategy that I wouldn't person use, but

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Speaker 7: for you, Brian, as a Notre Dame fan, you've got

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Speaker 7: to love it because it's given your Irish a leg up. Now,

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Speaker 7: I do think the matchup is fascinating.

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Speaker 6: I do think.

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Speaker 7: I saw there's a linebacker that's coming back for Pitt

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Speaker 7: to watch is Notre Dame's run game against his Pitt

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Speaker 6: The heck out of it. The other side of the

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Speaker 7: Pitt's got this freshman quarterback that's kind of been, you know,

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Speaker 7: is live in the game. However, based off of Nardoozy's comments,

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Speaker 7: I want nothing to do with betting them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that. Listen, Derek Jeter was the

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Speaker 2: direct answer to this direct question is not the path

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Speaker 2: I want to take here. You know, it's like, Derek,

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Speaker 2: And he would just, you know, Barry Sanders his way

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Speaker 2: particular question. That is not what pat Nardoozi did. That

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Speaker 2: is you know, savvy interviewing one oh one, and he

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Speaker 2: So don't even answer that part of it. Just just

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Speaker 2: He bathed in it, like he stepped in it. He's like,

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Speaker 4: That's what.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that was such a bad job by Pat Nardoozi.

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Speaker 2: Here midday, we got Iowa against USC. USC favored by

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Speaker 2: six and a half. Total is ticked down just a

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Speaker 2: about you, guys. I would expect you the same. You

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Speaker 2: expect Iowa to stop the rush, right, this is Iowa.

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Speaker 2: We stopped the running game. You're not gonna run it

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Speaker 2: down our throats over here? Well, Oregon did last night.

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Speaker 2: Oregon rushed for two hundred and sixty three yards. That's

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Speaker 2: like that passing game that work in the same way

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Speaker 2: it normally would, and Oregon was able to run it. Now,

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Speaker 2: Oregon has a really good running game USC today. USC

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Speaker 2: think that just based on reputation. Lincoln Riley, they throw

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Speaker 2: now got three games with at least one hundred yards

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Speaker 2: rushing he's been really really good. And USC they rank

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Speaker 2: right Like Iowa, they got to find a way to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm expecting quality drives for both teams. I think

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Speaker 5: I think Iowa, look Iwa.

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Speaker 4: Mainly runs out of those two tight end sets, and

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Speaker 4: that's going to be a real problem against a USC

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Speaker 5: Boy, one hundred and twenty six in the country.

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Speaker 4: Wow, So if you want to have quality drives against

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Speaker 4: it's hard to judge how they're going to respond. But

432
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Speaker 4: my guess is not well, not well, because it's all

433
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Speaker 4: Iowa wants to do, and so they're going to jam

434
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Speaker 4: the ball down the middle of the field or really

435
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 4: you know, on that edges.

436
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Speaker 5: They Iowa loves that outside zone stuff.

437
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Speaker 4: The matchup bodes well because you mentioned King Miller has

438
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: been fantastic. So the reason why the total is ticked

439
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: down is because the handicappers are expecting this to be

440
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Speaker 4: a heavy run game. It's going to be heavy rainfall

441
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 4: in southern California, so be on the lookout for just

442
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Speaker 4: a game of survival of the fittest and it's going

443
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 4: to really come down to who has the fittest run

444
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Speaker 4: defense and rushing offense.

445
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that your your hunters, right Rich. That's why we

446
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 7: saw the total takedown this week. Definitely, the weather, Definitely

447
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 7: the style of play. The game script perhaps is going

448
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 7: to be a little bit slower.

449
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Speaker 6: I'll be honest, though, I think the rain does favor Iowa.

450
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 6: I think that that.

451
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Speaker 7: Kind of environment favors the Hawkeyes because what USC really

452
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 7: wants to do is throw it. I mean, that's that's

453
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 7: what they're that's what their bread and butter is Jade

454
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Speaker 7: Mayav has got twenty five deep completions this year. That's

455
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 7: second most in the country. He's got a top ten

456
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 7: passing grade on throws twenty or more yards downfield. So

457
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Speaker 7: they want their their two stud receivers. I'm calling them

458
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 7: Lemon and Lime. Lemon and Lane fantastic, two of the

459
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Speaker 7: best in the country. I would say, right up there

460
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Speaker 7: with maybe Auburn's duo. A couple other duos in the

461
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Speaker 7: country of receiver threats that I think are kind of

462
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Speaker 7: right there, but I put USC's two against any of them.

463
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Speaker 7: The The thing for Iowa that I love is I

464
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 7: was gonna run the heck out of the ball.

465
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Speaker 6: Guys, what as iwould do? Hey run the football over

466
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Speaker 6: fifty percent of the time. That's a top five run

467
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Speaker 6: rate in college football. Now when I watched so.

468
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Speaker 7: I went back and I put on the tape this

469
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Speaker 7: week of Notre Dame at USC, or excuse me, USC

470
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Speaker 7: at Notre Dame, and Brian, you would have enjoyed my

471
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 7: film study experience this week because it was a lot

472
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Speaker 7: of smashing it right down the Trojans throats. I noticed

473
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Speaker 7: two things in that game. First, I really like Notre

474
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Speaker 7: Dame's running game. That's first thing, but we already knew that. Secondly,

475
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Speaker 7: USC is very stubborn.

476
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Speaker 6: What do I mean by that?

477
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Speaker 7: So when I watched USC defend the Notre Dame run game,

478
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 7: I noticed two things. First of all, the second level

479
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 7: the safeties, the linebackers, they take really bad angles, they

480
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 7: don't tackle very well. And second, I don't know what

481
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 7: banton Linn was defending against, but but he played two

482
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 7: high safeties the whole game, like first and ten in

483
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Speaker 7: the red zone at the sixteen yard line, and Danton

484
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Speaker 7: Lynn's got two high safeties, Like what are you defending

485
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Speaker 7: against at the sixteen yard line on first and ten?

486
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Speaker 6: Like what do you think Notre Dame's gonna do? First

487
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 6: and ten in the red zone? They're gonna run it?

488
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Speaker 7: And I think that's gonna be a fascinating chess match

489
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Speaker 7: in this game.

490
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Speaker 6: Are we gonna see Danton Linn.

491
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Speaker 7: Relent and bring that safety down into the box to

492
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Speaker 7: try to stop this IOWA run game? If he doesn't, well,

493
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 7: go look at the box score for what Notre Dame

494
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Speaker 7: did against USC. It's probably gonna look very similar in

495
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 7: this game because Kamari Molten and even the quarterback Gronowski

496
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 7: they can really beat you with.

497
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Speaker 6: Your legs, so with their legs.

498
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Speaker 7: So I'm concerned that Danton Linn maybe is not going

499
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Speaker 7: to bring that safety down. And if he doesn't, I

500
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Speaker 7: think I was gonna have a lot of success running

501
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Speaker 7: the ball in this game.

502
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Speaker 2: You might be right. And that's the thing. I don't

503
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: know if you guys feel the same way. My guess

504
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: is you do. My guess is rich you certainly do.

505
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: There is nothing more demoralizing for a defense that just

506
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: can't stop the rush. You just have no answers. It's

507
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: like third and eight and the other team is like, yeah,

508
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: we're just gonna run it. We're probably gonna get a

509
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: first down, and you're like, we can't stop them on

510
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: third and eight from running the ball for a first down. Uh,

511
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: it's the worst, man. But you might see both teams

512
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: struggle mightily against the rush. Normally you don't see both

513
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: in the same game. You might see it in this game.

514
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. Let me shift it over to

515
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: Florida against Ole miss On. You here interesting sec matchup, man.

516
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: You look at the points spread throughout the week, lot

517
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: of Gators' money here, right, Like Jared, you probably know

518
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: where this line originated. It was as high as you know,

519
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: fifteen and a half ole Miss, maybe higher, but it's

520
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: down to eleven and a half now I know where

521
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: it is now. I don't know where it began, but

522
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: I know where it is now. Ole Miss only eleven

523
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites, much heavier favorites, you know,

524
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: over two touchdowns earlier in the week. But it's ticked

525
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: down quite a bit here Ole Miss. So with Lane

526
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: Kiff and a lot of rumors to see the next

527
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: Florida head coach, that's another little angle that is interesting

528
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: to pay attention to in a game like this. But

529
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: Florida is so weird, right They've had a down year.

530
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: They're sort of like the Clemson of the SEC, if

531
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: you will. There are some people betting on their national

532
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: championship odds, the Florida Gators here, but they fired their

533
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: head coach. We're on to the We're on to the

534
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 2: interim head coach. You know it's the new Bill Belichick.

535
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: We're on to Cincinnati. We're onto the interim. That's where

536
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: the Florida Gators are right now. And man, they still

537
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: have a lot of talent. DJ Lagway has really underperformed

538
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: this season, but we're talking a one game scenario here,

539
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: and Florida wrecked Old missus season last year. Yeah, that's

540
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: why I think ole Miss is gonna be out for

541
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: blood today. I'm just surprised that the line movement throughout

542
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: the week, knowing what the backstory is and knowing who

543
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: the better team is, ole Miss is so much better

544
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: than Florida this season. It's not even close.

545
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I think ole Miss is

546
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: a much better team and that defense is gonna feast.

547
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: We'll get into that in a second, but yeah, the

548
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: emotional turbulence of this season is something to highlight. They

549
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 4: hung tough against Georgia, they defeated Texas, and then they

550
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: lose thirty eight to seven to Kentucky. I mean just

551
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 4: completely bottomed out offensively. And this is kind of like

552
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 4: a result of a process that was going awry for

553
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Speaker 4: weeks leading up. I mean, they struggle to sustain drives.

554
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: They've been ranking in the bottom third nationally. Third down

555
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: conversion rate is awful for Florida. So I really think

556
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: the biggest matchup is, and you'll see this early in

557
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: the game, this Miss defense against the Florida Gators offense.

558
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 4: If Florida can't move the football early in this game,

559
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: don't expect them to be able to move the football

560
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: late in this game, because you would assume if that's

561
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Speaker 4: the case early, Ole Miss is going to pile up

562
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: some points on them and then they're they're a bad

563
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: passing team, like they really struggle to a crew yardage

564
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: through the air. So this game could get out of fast,

565
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: out of hand fast, similar to the Kentucky game.

566
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was high as seventeen earlier in the week. Ye,

567
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 7: so we have seen a significant move towards Ole Miss.

568
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 7: Like I make the game seventeen, so maybe sixteen.

569
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Speaker 6: And a half. So I don't.

570
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 7: I don't really see it from the Florida perspective unless

571
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 7: there's some kind of weird mojo between Lane and the Gators,

572
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 7: because if you go to you know, some of the

573
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 7: prediction markets right now, I mean, he is the favorite,

574
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 7: a pretty significant favorite, to be the next Florida head coach.

575
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Speaker 6: Very unique scenario.

576
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Speaker 4: I don't.

577
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Speaker 7: I can't recall this ever happening off the top of

578
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 7: my head. I'm sure it's happened at some point where

579
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 7: a guy who, first of all, like that's the other

580
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 7: part about this game that you know, maybe we're failing

581
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 7: to grasp fully, Like Ole Miss is a top ten

582
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 7: team getting ready for the playoff. Like if they drop

583
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Speaker 7: a game all of a sudden, the playoff race becomes

584
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 7: very interesting for them. I mean they only have one loss,

585
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Speaker 7: so they could potentially drop a game and still make

586
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Speaker 7: the playoff.

587
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Speaker 6: And they play Mississippi State in two weeks to close

588
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 6: the year.

589
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 7: They're on by next week, So just a really weird scenario.

590
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Speaker 7: I don't know why this line has moved this much. Yeah,

591
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 7: that is a lot of points for a line to

592
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 7: move midweek without there being a quarterback or personnel change,

593
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 7: which to my knowledge there's not. So I don't know

594
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 7: why people are betting the game on why people are

595
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 7: betting Florida like they already know the final score. Because

596
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 7: the points that Rich made about the Gators offense and

597
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 7: the issues that they've had and All Miss just being a.

598
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: Really really solid offense this year.

599
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 7: I mean they're All Miss is a top twenty five

600
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 7: team in like every single category, Like I can't find

601
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 7: a category where they're like outside the top twenty five.

602
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 7: I mean, they're a legit team with really good players

603
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 7: and really good coach, and for some reason, the market

604
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 7: hates them this week. So I cannot put my finger

605
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 7: on it, but it does kind of give me weird

606
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 7: vibes that something's going on behind the scenes between Lane

607
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 7: and the Gators.

608
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, that's the thing I've heard quite a

609
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: bit throughout the week is, well, if Lane Kiffin is

610
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: gonna be the next head coach of Florida, does he

611
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: take it a little bit easy on Florida? Like? No, really,

612
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: like play that out, you think, Lane, I don't know.

613
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: Up seventeen late, he's like, you know, if we score

614
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: a touchdown or even kick a field goal and we're

615
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: winning by twenty plus, that's a bad look for me

616
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: being the next head coach of the Florida Gators. Let's

617
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: let's go conservative. Let's punt right here, you know, let's

618
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: let's not run it. You really think that enters his mind?

619
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Speaker 2: If anything, he wants to blow the doors off him

620
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: even more. You think that's gonna wreck his chances of

621
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: being the next head coach. It doesn't even make any

622
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: sense to me. I don't know why on earth anyone

623
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: would buy into this thought that Lane Kiffin is gonna

624
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: take it easy on Florida just because he might be

625
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: the next Florida head coach. Blowing them out like fifty

626
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: five to fourteen, it's probably gonna enhance his chances, like

627
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: make them even more desirable to be the next head coach.

628
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: So I don't buy that angle at all. That lane

629
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: is maybe gonna go a little bit light on the

630
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Gators because he might be their next head coach. That

631
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: doesn't even begin to make sense.

632
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: No, that narrative is very confusing. You want to beat

633
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: them by a million, and then what you want to

634
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: say is nice things about their athletic department and about

635
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: their recruits who are committed over there, and their fan base,

636
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: like you know, hey, we know it's gonna be an

637
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: exciting year coming up for the Florida Gators as they're

638
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: shaping back up after this tough loss and this tough season,

639
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: and we wish them the best. And man boy, the

640
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: fans out there, gosh, we we tons of respect even

641
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: I mean that they they it's the game in I

642
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: think it is at Old Miss right, Yeah, yeah, look,

643
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 4: I mean the Gator faithful.

644
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 5: They even came all the way out this way to

645
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 5: visit us.

646
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: You know, you just ti Nardouzi is basically what you're

647
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Speaker 2: doing right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the try not to Nardouzia approach. Yeah no,

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Speaker 4: it's it's true. You say you beat them by a million,

650
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Speaker 4: you say all the nice things about Florida Gator fans,

651
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Speaker 4: and you'll win hearts and minds. If that is in

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Speaker 4: fact link Kiffin's thought process. Who knows what his thought

653
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Speaker 4: process is. Who knows what o'll miss his thought process is?

654
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Speaker 4: Because this recent success, maybe they're going to back up

655
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Speaker 4: the brink truck. You never know. College football, the payments

656
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Speaker 4: that these teams are given to coaches, it is the

657
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Speaker 4: wild West these days.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly, and not to completely derail the conversation, but

659
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Speaker 7: the coaching carousel and college football guys, I think it's

660
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Speaker 7: more interesting than the games half the week. Like so,

661
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 7: we have an unprecedent. So last year there were zero

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Speaker 7: coaches fired in the SEC, none not at nilch The

663
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Speaker 7: buyout money was about thirty five ish million across the

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Speaker 7: entire college football landscape because there just weren't a lot

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Speaker 7: of coaches fired last year.

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Speaker 6: This year we're up to.

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Speaker 7: Two hundred million almost Wow, it's more than the GDP

668
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Speaker 7: of several small countries. It's insane. It's really insane. I

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Speaker 7: said this on my podcast last week. I said, the

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Speaker 7: college football coaching landscape right now is the love child

671
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Speaker 7: of ballers and billions.

672
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Speaker 6: It's ridiculous.

673
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Speaker 7: James Franklin looks like he's about to sign with Virginia Tech.

674
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Speaker 7: That's the news that dropped this morning, and that is

675
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Speaker 7: obviously going to shake up the landscape and the recruiting

676
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Speaker 7: department because for those on a where Penn State gets

677
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Speaker 7: a lot of their recruits from the DC, Maryland Virginia area,

678
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Speaker 7: and Virginia Tech was never really a big rival of

679
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Speaker 7: Penn State on the recruiting trail. But that's about the

680
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Speaker 7: change if they signed James Franklin to be their next

681
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Speaker 7: head coach. Obviously you have the Penn State situation. I

682
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Speaker 7: think it's gonna be drink What's That's what the prediction

683
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 7: markets think, But you never know what these things they

684
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 7: could change. You've got SEC coaches like Elko and Kiffen

685
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Speaker 7: that are in playoff races that are getting you know,

686
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 7: pulled into their respective corners for you know, this job

687
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Speaker 7: and that job and all these other jobs. It is

688
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Speaker 7: the most you have Auburn, you have Florida, you have

689
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Speaker 7: I think if drink Witz leaves, you'll have Missouri, Like,

690
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 7: you have multiple SEC teams that are going to be

691
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Speaker 7: looking for head coaches. You've got UCLA, you know, big

692
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Speaker 7: powerhouse in the West that's going to be looking for

693
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Speaker 7: a head coach. Like it's insane right now, the college

694
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Speaker 7: football coaching carousel. It is going to impact a lot

695
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Speaker 7: of playoff races. And I think over the next couple

696
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Speaker 7: of weeks, when you see that first domino fall, like

697
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 7: we might see James Franklin sign over the next few days.

698
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Speaker 7: Usually that's the indicator that the moves are about to come,

699
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Speaker 7: because if one domino falls, it's a big game of

700
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Speaker 7: musical chairs. You don't want to be left without a coach.

701
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Speaker 7: So we're about to be in this very weird coaching limbo.

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Speaker 7: I think over the Thanksgiving break and then into the

703
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Speaker 7: first month of December, as we are into the first

704
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Speaker 7: week of December, as we get to the collegeurball playoff announcements,

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Speaker 7: I don't even know where we're gonna land.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it really is one of the most remarkable

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Speaker 6: college football.

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Speaker 7: You know stories of the year. Is this coaching carousel

709
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Speaker 7: and how fast it's been.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you got to add the NFL into

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00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: the mix too, right, I read job openings and you

712
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: heard this week like, hey the Giants, they got to

713
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: pick up the phone and talk about Marcus Freeman, right, Like,

714
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Speaker 2: see if he's interested. I'm like, go away, go away,

715
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Speaker 2: get away from get away from my precious Marcus Freeman

716
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Speaker 2: over here doing a fantastic job with the fighting Irish.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's to your point, Jared, like the the

718
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Speaker 2: combination of college football coaching vacancies and now NFL coaching vacancies,

719
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Speaker 2: and that list is just going to grow and grow.

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Speaker 2: And so you got a lot of power openings and

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Speaker 2: not a lot of great candidates just left and right.

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Speaker 2: So the game of musical chair is gonna be really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Fun fact, Kamara Maulton's only scored two touchdowns all year long.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is one of the best backs in

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Speaker 6: the country Iowa.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna give a shout out to all five Iowa

751
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Speaker 7: offensive lineman because I love the old lineman. We love

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Speaker 7: the old lineman on the show Locke Stevens Jones, the

753
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Speaker 7: center is gonna be a He's gonna be a pro.

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Speaker 7: On Sunday Piper and Dunker, I mean, this is the

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Speaker 7: best ole line in the country. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 7: win the Joe More Award. And Maulton has not scored

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Speaker 7: a lot of toun Now. Iowas scored a lot of

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Speaker 7: touchdowns this year, but Moulton himself only two touchdowns on

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Speaker 7: the season. So I think he finds the end zone

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Speaker 7: today against USC. Again, the USC safeties have not tackled well,

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Speaker 7: specifically a number nineteen Bishop Fitzgerald. I mean he was

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Speaker 7: all over the tape against Notre Dame and just was

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Speaker 7: taking terrible angles. Could not tackle Jeremiah Love or to

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Speaker 7: Darien Price. So I think Maulton finds the end zone today.

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Speaker 7: Plus one seventy good price for an Iowa back to

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Speaker 7: find the end zone.

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Speaker 6: I hope he gets a start with a win.

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Speaker 4: Here on the Parla Clart awesome. Actually, I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: the other side that same matchup. I'm gonna take the

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Speaker 4: over on a rushing total. King Miller ninety nine and

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Speaker 4: a half now USC they have two tough tests left

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Speaker 4: to keep control of their CFP future. Iowa here and

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Speaker 4: then they have Oregon next. I would just got beat

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Speaker 4: by Oregon, and if you remember what happened with Penn State,

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Speaker 4: they got beat by Oregon and then they sort of

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Speaker 4: tumbled off because they lost control of their college football

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Speaker 4: playoff hopes and destinies and dreams of being a top

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Speaker 4: ranked team. It really was the beginning of the end

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Speaker 4: for James Franklin. So I'm not sure what Iowa team

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Speaker 4: we're going to see against USC. And with Wayman Jordan Hurt,

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Speaker 4: King Miller has been fantastic. He's had over two hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty yards and two touchdowns across the past two weeks.

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Speaker 5: So give me the over on King Miller USC back

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Speaker 5: ninety nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go. If you win that, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: always fun to yell king me, king mancheckers or something.

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Speaker 2: It's a great way to celebrate a win. All right,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with and imagine this scenario here. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go with the Boise State San Diego State under

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Speaker 2: forty one and a half. Now, for a few reasons,

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Speaker 2: San Diego State They're off an embarrassing loss at Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: so I think they're gonna be grinding this game out.

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Speaker 2: And you look at Boise State quarterback Maddox Madson. He's out.

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Speaker 2: So Boise State probably gonna struggle a bit to throw

795
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Speaker 2: the ball like they normally would be able to do.

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Speaker 2: That's how you beat San Diego State. So if the

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Speaker 2: passing game isn't as good as it normally is for

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Speaker 2: Boise State, I can see this turning into a grinder.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the scenario, Rich, You're on the call tonight and

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Speaker 2: this is the last leg needed for a successful car

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Speaker 2: Lay ladder. What a scenario. I know it all right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, this team is all about yack oh,

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Speaker 2: good morning, welcome in here, Happy Saturday. We are two

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Speaker 2: hours away from kickoff here, which that early window does

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Speaker 2: include the Notre Dame fighting Irish, you know early it

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Speaker 2: is very good. Patn Ardoozy is not excited for that one,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of people in the Pittsburgh area, sure are.

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Speaker 2: You know College game day over there, everybody's going crazy.

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Speaker 5: How about this one?

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Speaker 2: This is a good one too. It's in the late window,

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Speaker 2: number ten Texas against number five Georgia and I mentioned

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Speaker 2: just a few minutes ago, this team is all about yak.

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Speaker 2: That would be the Texas Longhorns. And we know Steve Sarkisian.

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Speaker 2: You throw it short, you let your playmakers playmake right,

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Speaker 2: you force a defense to tackle in space, and Texas

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Speaker 2: has had a lot of success the last couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks doing that. Some of these stats with arch Manning,

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Speaker 2: where you know he's throwing a bunch of passes five

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Speaker 2: yards within the line of scrimmage, they're going for one

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two yards, right Like, that's how much

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Speaker 2: yards after the catch yack that they're racking up here.

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Speaker 2: So they're gonna force Georgia to tackle well. One of

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Speaker 2: my main questions today is are you gonna see arch

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Speaker 2: Manning and Texas throw the ball downfield a lot more

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Speaker 2: than we're used to seeing. We know that the short

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Speaker 2: passing game is gonna be there, that's their calling card.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at Georgia, they do not have

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Speaker 2: a good pass rush, and so arch Manning should have

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Speaker 2: more time than normal, which begs the question. With that

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Speaker 2: extra time, you're thinking about taking a few more shots

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Speaker 2: than you normally do. But I wouldn't be surprised to

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Speaker 2: see Texas throw the ball downfield a little bit more

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Speaker 2: in this particular matchup against Georgia. Not a good pass rush,

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Speaker 2: leaky pass defense, so keep your eye on that. It

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Speaker 2: might not just be short, quick stuff all game long

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Speaker 2: from the long Horns. You might see a long ball

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Speaker 2: here or there from them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's possible, and they'll uncork it every once in

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Speaker 4: a while, though they don't like to do that. We'll

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Speaker 4: get to arch Manning in a second here, because he's

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Speaker 4: had an interesting past couple of games. But Georgia, they're

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Speaker 4: coming off five games in a row and the most

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Speaker 4: recent victory of forty one twenty one thrashing over miss State.

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Speaker 4: But they have a little bit of a slow starter's mentality,

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Speaker 4: so they can either get behind or they can play

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Speaker 4: down to the level of competition early in games and

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Speaker 4: then have to battle their way back and then overwhelm

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Speaker 4: teams with their talent.

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Speaker 5: They have a talented roster.

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Speaker 4: And then you look at Texas, who have rattled off

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Speaker 4: four straight, but they had a slow start to the season.

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Speaker 4: They opened with that fourteen to seven loss at Ohio

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Speaker 4: State and then fell to Florida earlier this year. Quietly

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Speaker 4: though over the past couple of games, arch Manning has

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Speaker 4: had some success. He's thrown a bunch of touchdowns at

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Speaker 4: six six tds over the past two games. And also

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Speaker 4: if you look at the PFF like advanced analytics, he

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Speaker 4: hasn't thrown a turn worthy ball in the past two games,

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Speaker 4: which is really important. He's learning to read the defense,

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Speaker 4: protect the football better and also as coaches are doing

861
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: a good job of putting him in positions where he's

862
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 4: going to have more successful throws. And part of the reason,

863
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 4: Brian is because they're keeping the ball close to the

864
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. And I think in years past you

865
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: would have to really worry about a Georgia team's pass rush.

866
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: They were terrifying, and behind that pass rush they had

867
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: a smothering defense coverage unit that is just going to

868
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 4: make up for all of the blemishes upfront from maybe

869
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 4: getting a little over your skis and pursuing your quarterback

870
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: too hard. You had this excellent coverage unit behind it.

871
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 4: That's not the cas this here for Georgia. You know,

872
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: they're really having to do a lot of work offensively

873
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: to make up for some of their woes defensively, and

874
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: they do and Like I said, they're deep and talented roster,

875
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: both on offense and defense. But defensively, this isn't your

876
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 4: father's dogs. This is They're different. They don't play as

877
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 4: smothering of defense. So I look at this as being

878
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 4: kind of a closer game. I'm really interested taking the

879
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: points with Texas today.

880
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was honestly my best side of the week.

881
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 6: I gave that out right.

882
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 7: I do two videos a week for BETMGM that get

883
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 7: posted on the Fox Sports Radio social feeds. The first

884
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 7: one is usually a college game on Wednesdays, and that

885
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 7: was the first one I gave out was Texas plus

886
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 7: six and a half. It really does need to be

887
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 7: an arch manning game, and I've noticed the same thing

888
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 7: Rich has. So I'll give you the numbers since Week seven.

889
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 7: Twelfth best passing grade in the country, eighteenth best adjusted

890
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 7: completion rate, and only one turnover worthy play.

891
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 6: He's played really well.

892
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 7: And I think what happens sometimes in college football is

893
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 7: we get lost.

894
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 6: In the early narrative. Right, the early narrative was Arch thinks,

895
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 6: like literally, we went from.

896
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 7: Crowning this kid the Heisman Trophy to he stinks in

897
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 7: like a month, and by the time we hit you know, Halloween.

898
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 7: He was an afterthought, like it was like, all right,

899
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 7: arch stinks, Like we can move on to the next

900
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 7: thing in college football this year because we're not really

901
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 7: focused on arch manning anymore. And I actually think that

902
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 7: was the best possible thing for him. Now they weren't

903
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 7: playing murderers row during this stretch, like Kentucky and Mississippi

904
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 7: State and these teams that aren't, you know, gonna really

905
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 7: contend for anything. But again, that was probably the best

906
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 7: case scenario for him because you watch these games in

907
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 7: the SEC every week. All these teams can play. They

908
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 7: all have good players. It's just some teams have better

909
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 7: players than others. Some are better coach, and the vibes

910
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 7: are just different when you're playing Mississippi State and Kentucky

911
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 7: and and now you gonna you're gonna go on the

912
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 7: road and play Georgia, Like now you get the spotlight again,

913
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 7: and how does he handle that spotlight. I think he's

914
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 7: gonna handle it a lot better than he did the

915
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 7: Ohio State game earlier this year. And that was a

916
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 7: seven point margin, and this line's six and a half.

917
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 7: And I think Ohio State's better than Georgia, So I

918
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 7: feel like taking the points here makes a ton of sense.

919
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 6: Brian.

920
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is with you mentioning that with

921
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: arch Manning, and you're right, we want microwavable results and

922
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: football isn't microwavable most of the time, where we're just like,

923
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: all right, arch Manning highly touted, let's go time, hardly

924
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: any experience whatsoever that it's like, we want amazing results immediately,

925
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: and we didn't get those, and we're like, this guy sucks.

926
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 4: We weren't.

927
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: But that's what most of the time when you heard

928
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: people talk about Texas football, that's what they were saying.

929
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: But I go back immediately to this is right around

930
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: the San Jose State game. He was wincing in the

931
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: San Jose State game and he didn't play well in

932
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: that game. And remember Steve Sarkisian, the head coach. He

933
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 2: was asked if arch Manning was hurt or not, and

934
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: he gave this very memorable answer. But check this out.

935
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 9: Arch Manning seemed to be having some throwing pains by

936
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 9: the according to who arch arch said that to you, No, oh,

937
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 9: according to who, it just looked like he was he

938
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 9: doesn't have.

939
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 6: Any that is there an explanation to why he was

940
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 6: it looked like that. I don't know.

941
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: I've never filed I've never filmed any of you guys

942
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: when you're using the bathroom, so I don't know what

943
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 2: faces you make when you're doing that. But really think

944
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: about this. This is one of the things we often

945
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: overlook in football, is is a guy playing while hurt,

946
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: you know, and when arch Manning is throwing the ball

947
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: and then like like wincing that that's a red flag

948
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: right there. And listen, I'm not trying to absolve all

949
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: wrongdoing and putting it solely on injuries. I have that

950
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: burned into my head. Jared where the first game of

951
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: the year against Ohio State, arch Manning threw a worm burner,

952
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: you know, like you skipping a rock like the games

953
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: like ding like on the water right there. So like

954
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: he's not hurt then, right, and the play wasn't great,

955
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: but he's at the horseshoe. It's for it's you know,

956
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on him. I'm not trying to

957
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: make it sound like, hey, hey, let's let's treat arch

958
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: Manning with kid gloves. All I'm saying is there's some

959
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 2: nuance to this stuff. It's not microwavable. He's not gonna

960
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: be a stud most likely out of the shoot with

961
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: that much hype. And it took him a while to

962
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: really get comfortable, and that's understandable, I think. And he

963
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: might have been gutting it out through an injury that

964
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: was bothering him and affecting his play to some degree.

965
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: I think all of those things are fair. And you

966
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: look at his play right now, he's greatly picked it

967
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 2: up the last couple of weeks. So ask yourself the reverse,

968
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: how has that happened? And I think it's a combination

969
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: of getting more experience and then maybe getting a little

970
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: healthier as well, And so I think both of those

971
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: things absolutely factor into him playing a lot better here now.

972
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm gonna I'm going to make a comparison that

973
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: everybody will be aware of because of fantasy football and

974
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 4: obviously the proliferation of the NFL. It's everything to a

975
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: lot of people. There's a quarterback who joined the NFL

976
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: back in twenty eighteen who threw for fifty two point

977
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 4: eight completion percentage. Yeah, through for two thousand and seventy

978
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: four yards, ten touchdowns, twelve interceptions.

979
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: That's right, I know exactly who it is.

980
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 5: Yep, awful.

981
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 4: And then he followed up that season, by the way,

982
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: with a year where in twenty nineteen, slightly better passing

983
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 4: yard it's slightly better touchdown interception rates, so over three

984
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: thousand yards twenty touchdowns to nine interceptions, but still under

985
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: sixty percent completion percentage, and a lot of people, if

986
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 4: you perform that way over two seasons, you might say, hey,

987
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 4: that's not very good quarterback. Even though he's getting better,

988
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 4: he's gonna he's gonna cap out somewhere, and this team's

989
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: made a dreadful mistake in the first round. Well, in

990
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, he rushed for a ton, scored a

991
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: bunch of touchdowns on the ground, and then he completed

992
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: sixty three point six percent of his passes for three thousand,

993
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: seven hundred and thirty one yards twenty eight tds through

994
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 4: the air with six interceptions. His name is Josh Allen

995
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: of your Bruffalo Bills. Yeah, yeah, he was the league's MVP,

996
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 4: you know. And here's the thing, like football is not static.

997
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 4: So Josh Allen came into the NFL as an underwhelming

998
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: project as a late first rounder and was built up

999
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: to become one of the most prominent quarterbacks on the planet.

1000
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: Like that's hardstop, Like there are maybe four other arms

1001
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: on planet Earth who can compete with Josh Allen. Right now,

1002
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: he's amazing, but he wasn't amazing back in twenty eighteen

1003
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: and twenty nineteen when he was just learning how to

1004
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: play at that level. And getting back to arch Manning.

1005
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: What we're going to write off arch Manning because he

1006
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 4: had a couple of clunkers out the gates. This is

1007
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 4: college football. This is vastly different from high school football.

1008
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: I don't care what your last name is, I don't

1009
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 4: care who your uncle, your daddy is. It's hard. It's

1010
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 4: really hard, and the pressure makes things all the more difficult.

1011
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: What we expect him to roll out of bed a

1012
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: Heisman candidate. Yeah, there were certain people who did think

1013
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 4: that was going to be the case. It's hard to

1014
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 4: do that. It takes special people a long time to

1015
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 4: become special football players, just like Josh Allen, just like

1016
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 4: Peyton Manning, who, if you go back to his rookie

1017
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: season with the Colts, led the league in interceptions. So

1018
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: arch Manning when he's a week one doeide freshman or

1019
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: second year player at Ohio State, trying to cut his

1020
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: teeth against the Buckeyes who are going to run the

1021
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 4: table this year and potentially went back to back national championships. Yeah,

1022
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 4: he looked a little wobbly on those deer legs. But

1023
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 4: look at Arch manning this week against Georgia. I'll tell

1024
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 4: you what.

1025
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 5: This could be a statement game.

1026
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 4: This could be against a vulnerable Georgia defense with Steve

1027
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 4: Sarkeji and he just heard there highly. I mean, he's

1028
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: gonna defend his guy. He's going to make sure that

1029
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 4: he corrects any narratives that he has control over. He's

1030
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: going to put him in a position where he has

1031
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: the most success because a it benefits him as a

1032
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 4: head coach, but b because it benefits Arch and he

1033
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: is the future of this Texas Longhorns program. So this

1034
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: is one of those games where Texas side is very interesting.

1035
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: And also maybe the total going over is interesting because

1036
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: I think Georgia's defense can be had. I think it's potential,

1037
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: like you brought up earlier, Brian, that this Texas Longhorns

1038
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: offense may be willing to test the depth of this

1039
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: Georgia defense a little bit more often. So we could

1040
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 4: see some offensive fireworks. Georgia may be having to you know,

1041
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 4: throw the ball around the yard a lot more and

1042
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 4: play a little bit pacier of a tempo to keep

1043
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 4: up with the Longhorns at times.

1044
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the tightest game hast it's played all year.

1045
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 4: Yep, yep victory.

1046
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 7: They haven't played a game with a shorter margin than

1047
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 7: eighteen the whole year. Besides that one, really the only

1048
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 7: game that they've been sweating. I know, the Penn State

1049
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 7: game was tied at half, but then they really put

1050
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 7: some distance between themselves and the Nitny Lions in the

1051
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 7: second half. So today will be arch Manning's twelfth career start.

1052
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 7: That is one college football season today.

1053
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1054
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 7: Two of those prior eleven starts came against Mississippi State.

1055
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 7: So again, like we just need to reframe this. I

1056
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 7: think Brian put it well. Microwavable opinion on arch Manning,

1057
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 7: like we just need to give this kid some time.

1058
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 7: The numbers have been really good the last few weeks. Now,

1059
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 7: to be fair, it has been a little paint by numbers, right.

1060
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 7: The average depth of targets one of the shortest in

1061
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 7: college football at six and a half yards. Sark has

1062
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 7: been calling a lot of screens. We mentioned the yak,

1063
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 7: but that's something Georgia doesn't defend well. So if that's

1064
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 7: something where Arch feels comfortable in that style offense, right,

1065
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 7: maybe get his legs going early. I think that's the

1066
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 7: one thing I've noticed is when you get his legs

1067
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 7: going early in the game, you call some design runs,

1068
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 7: you get him a few hits. I know that doesn't

1069
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 7: it sounds counterproductive to intentionally get your quarterback hit, but

1070
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 7: sometimes that kind of settles you. It grounds you a

1071
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 7: little bit in the football game. It gets you ready

1072
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 7: to go when you take one of those big hits

1073
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 7: early in the game. So that's how I would call it.

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00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 7: I would have at least one or two designed runs

1075
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 7: for Arch on the opening script, and then I would

1076
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 7: start to nibble at that Georgia secondary, which has been

1077
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 7: very susceptible this year. Now, we got to give some

1078
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 7: love to the other quarterback, because I be honest, Gunner

1079
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 7: Stockton's had a great year yea fourth in the country

1080
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 7: and adjusted accuracy right when he's not pressured this year,

1081
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 7: he has.

1082
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 6: Really been effective.

1083
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 7: The Georgia offensive line's done a good job keeping him clean.

1084
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 7: They'll be tested this week. Texas has a top ten

1085
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 7: pass rush Colin Simmons is probably one of the best

1086
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 7: edge rushers in the country, and Gunner's efficiency falls off

1087
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 7: dramatically when under duress. Texas top twenty five pass rush

1088
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 7: team good at stopping the run on this will be

1089
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 7: a challenge. Like that's the one negative to me to

1090
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 7: betting the over. I agree with Rich's overtake. I do

1091
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 7: think we will have some points in this game. But

1092
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 7: if you want to talk about a subplot that goes

1093
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 7: against the over, it is absolutely Texas's defense shutting down

1094
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 7: the run, which is something they've done great all year.

1095
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 7: In fact, I think both teams are gonna do a

1096
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 7: good job shutting down the run in this game. But

1097
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 7: can Gunner Stockton avoid that pressure and be the better quarterback.

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 6: Let's be honest.

1099
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 7: The talent level at the quarterback position greatly favors Texas

1100
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 7: in this game, but I do think Gunner Stockton has

1101
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 7: this gamer quality to him where we could see a

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00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 7: bit of a ping pong back and forth in the

1103
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 7: second half where both of these quarterbacks.

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00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 6: Are stepping up into the moment making big plays. This

1105
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 6: is a fun one.

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00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 7: I mean, remember this game last year. Right, Georgia went

1107
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 7: into Austin, Texas was the number one team. They sacked

1108
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 7: quin Ewers five times, he fumbled it twice. I think

1109
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 7: arch is gonna be a little bit more stable with

1110
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 7: the football here, not gonna take as many sacks, go

1111
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 7: to fumble it as much, not going to commit the turnovers.

1112
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 7: The question is can he stay on schedule and keep

1113
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 7: this Texas offense on the field, because I do think

1114
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 7: Georgia has an ability to move the football as well.

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: Brian, Yeah, listen, man, Texas's defense I like, I like

1116
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: their defense, but they've been leaky the last couple of games, right,

1117
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: allowed thirty plus points in back to back weeks, allowed

1118
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: over three hundred and fifty yards to Mississippi State and Vanderbilt.

1119
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: So we'll see what Texas's defense looks like today against Georgia,

1120
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what, Man. As far as winning

1121
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: a game, going between the hedges and taking down Georgia,

1122
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: it is not easy to do. And I love this sound.

1123
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: It's my favorite sound of the entire year. You know,

1124
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: edging out closely pat Nardoozi and his pathetic spiel about yeah,

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00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: you can beat us by one hundred notre dame.

1126
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: What do I care?

1127
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: But I love this from Kirby Smart. This was the

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00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: fourth quarter comeback earlier this year against Old Miss, and

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00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart had this to say.

1130
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Speaker 4: I just told the guys that's a culture win because

1131
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 4: you don't win that game if you're not physically tough,

1132
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 4: mentally tough. We call it hard to kill. And the

1133
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: one thing we are, we're hard to kill. We won't

1134
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 4: go away.

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00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1136
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: I would hug that audio if I could. You kidd me,

1137
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: that is a great description of the dogs they are.

1138
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: They're hard to kill this season in particular. Man, But

1139
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: that's what Texas is going to have to do to

1140
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: get a win on the road. It's a good matchup. Man,

1141
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: can't wait for this one.

1142
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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 2: this week, but but in its place I have two

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Speaker 2: hair raising for you. Okay, one of them requires a

1154
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: lot of explaining, but uh, you tell me if you're

1155
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: you're on board it's crazy enough to be true or

1156
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Speaker 2: you think this is just utter foolishness. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: YouTube and subscribe. Okay, no Seamus McGee today, I'm sorry,

1167
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: but but in Seamus's absence, I do have two spine

1168
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: tingling takes for you. Okay, Now you tell me if

1169
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: you think this is crazy enough to be true or

1170
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: just total poppycock. All right, so the first one, and

1171
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: this requires some explaining. I think Ohio State is overhyped

1172
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: and overrated. Now, now here's the first thing you gotta do.

1173
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: You gotta open your mind, all right, like cleanse your mind,

1174
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: you know, like really open your mind, open your soul,

1175
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: open your football heart to this possibly being true. Okay,

1176
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: let's look at the Ohio State resume to date. If

1177
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: you look at Ohio State's resume, impressively, they beat Texas

1178
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: fourteen to seven at home first game of the season.

1179
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: Texas was the number one team in the country.

1180
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 4: And that's it.

1181
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: That's the end of their impressive resume. Here, you stop

1182
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: me when you hear an opponent that is actually a

1183
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: good team. Okay, just let me know Grambling, Ohio, Washington, Minnesota,

1184
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: Illinois with scon, Penn State, and Purdue. Oh wait, they

1185
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: have UCLA and Rutgers on deck. What a joke of

1186
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: a schedule. And we're convinced this is like the Juggernaut

1187
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: of Juggernauts. I'm not buying it now.

1188
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 4: I know they have talent.

1189
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: They have talent all over this roster. Jeremiah Smith, Caleb Downs,

1190
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: They've got linebackers, They've got edge rushers, They've got all

1191
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: kinds of talent on this roster. But you know as

1192
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: well as I do, why everyone is convinced that Ohio

1193
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: State has the goods and they're towering above the field

1194
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: right is because of last year. That's what it really is.

1195
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State got hot at the right time. They won

1196
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: a national championship. They did. If we're critically looking at

1197
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: this though as it relates to this year, I take

1198
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: nothing away from them winning a title last season, but

1199
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: as it relates to this year, if you go back

1200
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: in the hot tub time machine, Okay, they lost to

1201
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: Oregon on the road, then they lost at home to

1202
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: a five lost Michigan team, and then it was go time.

1203
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: They blew the doors off of a flawed Tennessee team

1204
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: at home in the shoe. They smoked the Oregon That

1205
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: was impressive. And then what they do. They survived against

1206
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: Quinn Viewers in Texas, and then they held on for

1207
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: dear life against Notre Dame. And we're just convinced that

1208
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: they're the goliaths of the college football world right now.

1209
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 6: I don't buy it.

1210
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: I don't, and I think when the competition gets a

1211
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: lot tougher, come college football playoff time. I don't think

1212
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: that they're they're gonna repeat. I don't think they're gonna

1213
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: be repeat champions here. I think they're overrated. And the

1214
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: last thing I'll say is a lot of people struggle

1215
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: with what overrated means. A lot of people think you're

1216
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: saying they suck. I'm not saying that at all. They

1217
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: have talent all over the place. What overrated means is

1218
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: that the reputation is greater than the reality. And so

1219
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: what's Ohio State's reputation. It's it's like the the Gregorian chant,

1220
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: it's oh Ohio State. Look at all the tailent. Another

1221
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: win will look at this defense a Matt Patricia math Man.

1222
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: It's all it ever is, And I think the reputation

1223
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: is far greater than the reality. They are the definition

1224
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: of overrated. They will not repeat. That's what I say.

1225
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I will answer this question or I

1226
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 4: will answer this statement in two different ways, one defending

1227
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 4: your point and I'll spend more time there.

1228
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: Nice, let's go.

1229
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 4: They, i would argue, are probably one of the least

1230
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 4: tested top teams in college football. Yeah, I mean, just

1231
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 4: like you said, if you look at some of their

1232
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 4: close wins. If you look at some of their blowouts

1233
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 4: and you look at the quality of the opponent at

1234
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: that time, it's it's inarguable they've they've they haven't been

1235
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 4: tested as much as other teams who are one loss

1236
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 4: or two loss teams in the entry who could face

1237
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 4: off against them in the college football Playoff. Their offensive

1238
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 4: line I think benefits from a better than normal quarterback

1239
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 4: at his age. Julian Sayan has made up for a lot,

1240
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 4: and that's saying a lot for a guy who hasn't

1241
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 4: played very many games at the college football level. He

1242
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 4: has a quick release and that covers up a lot

1243
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 4: of the pass rush. Blemises that they'll give up pressure

1244
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 4: and the pressure can't get there because both from an

1245
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 4: offensive coordination standpoint, but also from just a standpoint of

1246
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: the arm talent of Julian say and he's getting rid

1247
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: of the football really quickly. Also, they have issues on

1248
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 4: their defensive line. There's some depth issues there. They really

1249
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 4: haven't had a signature win. You know, if you think

1250
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 4: about it, Texas, is that it when both both teams

1251
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 4: are rolling out of bed at the start of the

1252
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 4: season and you know, I mean you're hosting that game.

1253
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 4: It is an enormously pressure filled moment for arch Manning,

1254
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 4: and you could say the same thing for saying but

1255
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't We all know where the narrative was pointing

1256
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 4: with arch Manning versus Julian saying so, I really feel

1257
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 4: like what you said holds a lot of weight. However,

1258
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 4: saying all that, this is where I'll disagree. Your record

1259
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 4: is your record, and the most important thing about football

1260
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 4: is the results. Now, do I think the results are everything? No,

1261
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 4: Because I'm a process guy. If you've got a good

1262
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 4: If you have a good process and bad results, just wait,

1263
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 4: because I think the results will be the lagging indicator

1264
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 4: of a good process. At some point, maybe you need

1265
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 4: to inject better players, Maybe you need to inject you know,

1266
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 4: another assistant coach who's going to take you over the edge.

1267
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 4: If you have a good process, good results should be

1268
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 4: a lagging indicator. If you have a bad process and

1269
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 4: good results, again, just wait because you'll get found out.

1270
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 4: Even now, I think I think Ohio State has good

1271
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: process and good results. I'm not trying to doubt any

1272
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 4: of their success. I think this is a team that

1273
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 4: is built to make a deep run in the college

1274
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: football playoff. I really do. However, I will agree with

1275
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 4: the the one sentiment that they're overrated, because teams who

1276
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 4: are undefeated can get overhyped like they're gonna run away

1277
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 4: with this college football playoff because they haven't lost yet

1278
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: this season. This is a down year for the Big Ten.

1279
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 4: Whether you like it or not. This conference is not

1280
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 4: as good as you think it is. I mean, the

1281
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 4: only two teams that are really really like separating is

1282
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 4: Oregon and.

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Speaker 5: Ohio State Iowa. Are you a believer that Iowa can

1284
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Speaker 5: win a national championship this year?

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Speaker 4: I'm not. I mean Penn State they fell off a cliff.

1286
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Speaker 4: There were a bunch of teams that had a lot

1287
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 4: of steam heading into the season that fell off in

1288
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Speaker 4: a big way. And so I don't think this conference

1289
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 4: has posed a big challenge for Ohio State. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I agree with the sentiment. But the results

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Speaker 4: are the results, and they are the best team in

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Speaker 4: the country in terms of the results.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a fun convo because you can make

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Speaker 7: the case that they have not been tested. Now, usually

1295
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 7: when this happens and you have these scenario, it happens

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Speaker 7: in college football a lot because you just don't play everyone,

1297
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 7: unlike the NFL where you kind of play everyone.

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Speaker 6: I rely on the advanced numbers, and the advanced numbers.

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Speaker 7: Still tell me that Ohio State's one of the best,

1300
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 7: if not the best, teams in the country. So I'm

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Speaker 7: not gonna, you know, run to the their overrated bandwagon

1302
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 7: just yet, but I will follow up with these two questions.

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Speaker 7: A do you think they're better than Indiana, Brian? And

1304
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 7: do you think they're better than the best team in

1305
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Speaker 7: the SEC Alabama or A and M? Based on the

1306
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 7: ratings right now, where would you put Ohio State in

1307
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 7: that conversation?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure if they're better than Indiana.

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Speaker 6: There are three and a half point favor right now

1310
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 6: in a neutral against India right in the Big Ten Championship.

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Speaker 4: Look at it.

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Speaker 2: I don't like how Indiana's They've suffered a couple of

1313
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: injuries on their O line, their defense a little bit

1314
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: leaky lately. Ohio State might be better with Wolf, they

1315
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: might be better than Indiana, they might be better than

1316
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: the best SEC team. I just don't think there's as

1317
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: much distance between Ohio State and the two examples you mentioned, Jared,

1318
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: as a lot of people think they are right. I

1319
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: don't think there's that much difference. I think they can

1320
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Speaker 2: be had and they might be favored going into a game. Sure,

1321
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: they certainly have a ton of talent, but I don't

1322
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: know that they're emerging with wins even though they're favored,

1323
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I've had Bama over Ohio State as my

1325
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 7: national championship pick since August. That has been the pick

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Speaker 7: that I've had. I've had Bama's my national champion since then.

1327
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 7: I'm not going to waiver on that anytime soon, unless,

1328
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 7: you know, Ty Simpson gets hurt or something crazy happens

1329
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 7: over the next few weeks. That will be the opinion

1330
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 7: that I likely take with me into the college football playoffs.

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 7: So I am not in the Ohio State undefeated bandwagon

1332
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 7: they're the best team ever that that is not my

1333
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 7: opinion on Ohio State.

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 6: I think I was a.

1335
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 7: Little bit down on saying coming into the year, and

1336
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 7: I think that opinion has changed. I think I'm higher

1337
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 7: on him now after watching him then I was before

1338
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 7: the season started, when I was very unsure. But it's

1339
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 7: hard to ignore the fact that they have the best

1340
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 7: player in the country on both sides of the ball.

1341
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 7: Like that's really hard to ignore. And when college football

1342
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 7: is still you know, one player can make a big difference,

1343
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 7: whereas in the NFL it's a little bit more balanced

1344
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 7: because all of the players are really good. But when

1345
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 7: you have Caleb Downs on one side and Jeremiah Smith

1346
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 7: on the other side, like, it's really hard to say

1347
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 7: that that's not the best team in the country. I

1348
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 7: agree that there. I don't think they're as good as

1349
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 7: last year. I thought last year's team was better coached.

1350
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 7: I thought Chip Kelly had a better scheme, although that

1351
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 7: hasn't played out in the NFL this year. I thought

1352
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 7: Jim Knowles's scheme was solid, although that hasn't played out

1353
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 7: at Penn State this year.

1354
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 6: I'm wrong a.

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01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 7: Lot, but I did. I thought last year's team was better.

1356
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 7: I don't think this year's team is going to be

1357
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 7: as prolific in the playoff because I know, you know,

1358
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 7: they held on for dear life against Notre Dame and

1359
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 7: they barely got by Texas. But when you're beating teams

1360
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 7: in the playoff by multiple scores, like, it's impressive, it

1361
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 7: really is. And their run last year to the championship

1362
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 7: game was damn impressive.

1363
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: I do.

1364
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 7: I can get behind the fact that they're not as

1365
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 7: good as last year, but I absolutely believe that they

1366
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 7: right now deserve to be the number one team in

1367
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 7: the country.

1368
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 2: That's hey, that's fine. It just man, when the playoff

1369
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: rolls around being completely untested all season long in terms

1370
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: of facing quality opponents, right, Like, all we do is

1371
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: talk smack about Texas and arch Manning. They barely beat

1372
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: that team barely at home first game of the year.

1373
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: Arch Manning barely started any games before that, fourteen to seven.

1374
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: And that's like, that's that's the one, Like whoa, oh wow,

1375
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: that's a resume builder right there now, man, and they've

1376
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 2: been untested throughout the season. So come playoff time. I mean, listen,

1377
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,839
Speaker 2: I think that Ohio State is probably better than Georgia,

1378
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: but in terms of being battle tested, Georgia is light

1379
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 2: years beyond Ohio State in terms of quality of opponents

1380
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: and tough games and tough fourth quarters, the key situations,

1381
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: high leverage spots. This gonna be really interesting with Ohio

1382
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: State come playoff time. Now my second take, and I'll

1383
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 2: make this quick because we're low on time and I

1384
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: might lose one of you as a friend here. Hear

1385
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: me out. Alabama is total fools goal. I don't buy

1386
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: Bama at all. The more I dug in and really

1387
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 2: looked at this team critically, let's look at it. No

1388
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: running game, Their offensive line has been a disappointment. Their

1389
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: defense is just okay. That's not good enough to win

1390
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: a title, to go deep in the playoffs, not good enough.

1391
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: Alabama almost let Georgia Zuri South Carolina all complete second

1392
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 2: half comebacks. So that sound like a national champion to you.

1393
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: South Carolina almost coming back on them in the second half,

1394
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: come out. You get crushed by Florida State. Yes, I

1395
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: know it's the first game of the year, but I

1396
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: can't let that go. I mean, you got dominated on

1397
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball in the trenches by Florida State,

1398
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 2: who is a joke now, Like, I can't let that

1399
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 2: go completely. I think they're way too overreliant on ty Simpson,

1400
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: who's been great this year. I take nothing away from Tye,

1401
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: but to be like, all right, ty do your thing again,

1402
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:38,480
Speaker 2: eventually that party is going to end. I think Alabama

1403
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 2: is a complete fraud. I think they have no chance

1404
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: to win a championship this year, and I don't see

1405
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: a deep run. I see an early exit from the

1406
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: Crimson Tide is what I say, don't buy them at all.

1407
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 4: All Right, well, this one I completely disagree with because

1408
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,919
Speaker 4: I don't think they're complete frauds. I will say, another

1409
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 4: surprising argument to be made against against a team who's

1410
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:13,440
Speaker 4: looked like everything you want in a potential college football playoff,

1411
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 4: or I should say, a team that could go deep

1412
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 4: in the college football playoff. Here's the reason why, again

1413
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 4: I could support a take like this. They are a

1414
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 4: little inconsistent upfront on the offensive line. They've had to

1415
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 4: shuffle some pieces around for a variety of reasons, and

1416
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 4: ty Simpson has been overwhelmingly good regardless of those results.

1417
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 4: But against better defensive lines, against better teams pass rushes,

1418
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 4: you've seen some of the weaknesses in.

1419
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 5: The armor, so to speak, or cracks in the armor.

1420
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 4: Against SEC opponents, They've had some close games, you know,

1421
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 4: and you know that Missouri win. Let's see you mentioned

1422
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 4: South Carolina taking them down the wire. It definitely look

1423
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 4: it's worthy of discussing how dominant of an Alabama team

1424
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 4: they are. Also with some of the key features of

1425
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 4: what's made Alabama elevate from just college football team to

1426
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: like college football lore, like the looming, brooding defense that

1427
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 4: has helped supply field position and second chances for a

1428
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 4: rushing offense that was overwhelming opponents for years and years

1429
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 4: and years at.

1430
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 5: The college football level.

1431
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 4: I mean that is what has been the backbone, the

1432
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 4: spinal cord of this program. Over time, they're less consistent

1433
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 4: in the run game and their defense is less consistent

1434
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 4: against the run. So now teams can control the line

1435
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 4: of scrimmage against Alabama like we haven't seen in frankly decades.

1436
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 4: So there are some cracks in the armor. Again. Having

1437
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 4: said that, if you compare the level of competition they

1438
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 4: play against in the SEC against what teams are facing

1439
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 4: in the ACC, what teams are facing in the Big Ten,

1440
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no comparison.

1441
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 5: They are they are battle tested.

1442
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 4: So if they're one of the top teams in the

1443
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 4: SEC and entering the CFP, they're going to be one

1444
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 4: of the hardest, proven teams. So I don't think they're

1445
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: complete frauds. Do I think they're as having as good

1446
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 4: of a season as some people say, including my buddy

1447
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 4: here Jared Smith. Maybe maybe not, but he's right. He's

1448
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 4: like a WWE wrestler on the turnbuckle, like tag.

1449
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 5: Me, yeah, and here it is, go Jared sick sick

1450
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 5: of Well.

1451
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 7: You guys didn't leave me with any time we're up

1452
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 7: against the break. I think Brian did this intention. I

1453
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 7: would give me a chance to rebute.

1454
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: Here.

1455
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 7: They have the most wins over current ranked teams in

1456
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 7: all of college football, Like, like what, I don't understand

1457
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 7: what else they have to do? Like it, I think

1458
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 7: that's an insane take to call them a fraud. It's

1459
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 7: absolutely insane take. Now, does that mean they're gonna win

1460
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 7: the national championship?

1461
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 6: No, it's football. Anything could happen.

1462
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 7: Ohio State lost to Michigan last year and and then

1463
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 7: ran through the entire college football world like it was

1464
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 7: a hot knife through butter. Like I, I just don't

1465
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 7: understand what sport you're watching if you think they're a fraud,

1466
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 7: Like it's insane. Ty Simpsons the most talented quarterback in

1467
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 7: the SEC. They've got a great defense, They've won ever

1468
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 7: they've they've gone through. We haven't had a team going

1469
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 7: to feed it in the SEC in three years. And

1470
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 7: that was that Georgia team that was like the best

1471
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 7: team ever. Like, I just don't understand what else they

1472
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 7: have to do Brian, Like, you're very it's very it's

1473
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 7: a very high bar you're setting for these teams, Like,

1474
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 7: is there anyone good in college football this year? Because

1475
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 7: if bam ain't good, then no one's good.

1476
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: Uh, we'll pick it back up because we have no

1477
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 2: time and Chris Burfett's gonna start throwing rocks at us here.

1478
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, it's uh, there's a counter argument

1479
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 2: right there. To me, I would just put it that way. Hey,

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Speaker 8: I am.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I would say anti Roll Tide, Brian,

1488
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: though I guess this season at least. All right, Coming

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this.

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Speaker 5: Prop it up player plays all right.

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Speaker 2: The prop betting market shared. We start with you with

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Speaker 2: something you like.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna go with a bad matchup today for

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Speaker 7: Brendan Soresby, We're gonna go under twenty six and a

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Speaker 7: half passing yards. They face Arizona today, and this is

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Speaker 7: an Arizona secondary that plays a ton of man coverage,

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Speaker 7: a top twenty five man coverage rate in college football.

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Speaker 6: This year, they have the eighth best coverage grade when

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Speaker 6: playing man.

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Speaker 7: And since these two losses this year to Nebraska and

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Speaker 7: Utah heavy man's schemes and this season, Cincinnati doesn't do

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Speaker 7: well against man coverage.

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Speaker 6: Sixty ninth and yards per a tramp one hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifteenth in explosive play rate.

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Speaker 7: They will be without their second leading receiver, Caleb Goodie,

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Speaker 7: doubtful with an undisclosed injury. Since he's favored in the

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Speaker 7: game positive game trip, I think Soresby stays under his

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Speaker 7: passing yards prop today. Very important game for the Bearcats,

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Speaker 7: but I don't think it's gonna be.

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Speaker 6: A good game for Brendan Sowarsby.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go to this Duke Virginia game. Duke's

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Speaker 4: defense is having a bad season. To say, the leaves

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Speaker 4: can't stop the pass, can't cover, can't get off the

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Speaker 4: field on third down. You look up the other side

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Speaker 4: of the field. What does this mean for the Duke

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Speaker 4: Blue Devils offense. They're gonna need to throw the ball

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Speaker 4: ton and their quarterbacks on a keta Right now, he's

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Speaker 4: thrown a bunch of tds.

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Speaker 5: He's protecting the football.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's great against the coverages he's predominantly gonna see

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Speaker 4: against Virginia today. So give me the Duke Blue Devils.

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Speaker 4: QB Darien Mensa over two hundred and eighty one and

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Speaker 4: a half yards against Virginia's d I think he's gonna

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Speaker 4: be throwing the football ton I think he sales pass

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Speaker 4: that passing yardage total.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Give me John Mattiir. Let's fest off all John Mattier

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Speaker 2: over here. Let me go with his rushing yards here.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over thirty four and a half rushing

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01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: yards against Alabama. Fraudulent Bama team. They struggle against mobile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: They routinely give up plenty of rushing yards against guys

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Speaker 2: that can move on the ground use their legs. This

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01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: is picked up quite a bit. Was that twenty six

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Speaker 2: and a half last night? It's now thirty four and

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Speaker 2: a half today. I don't love all that movement, but

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Speaker 2: I think Mattir I think he's going to be looking

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Speaker 2: for time to run the ball. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have success. You do have to, you know, like squint

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Speaker 2: your eyes, like throw the ball, just throw it away.

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Speaker 2: Don't take a sack. The sack yardage counts against us.

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Speaker 2: That's brutal. But I think Mattiir gets there. By the way,

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Speaker 2: how about a correlated play with your Sowresby play, Jared,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about Sowresby over forty four and

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Speaker 2: a half rushing yards.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know how I feel about the

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Speaker 7: rushing yard props up quarterbacks, but I do agree the

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Speaker 7: legs are gonna be a big factor, tore big factor.

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Speaker 4: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 2: We are one hour away from kickoff?

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Speaker 4: Over here.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get you all set, set the table, get

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Speaker 2: everything ready, get the steak, knive and the fork. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, a fun fact, I've done this for

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Speaker 2: a while now, me being weird, will set the knife

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Speaker 2: and the fork upside down. I have them facing you

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Speaker 2: instead of like facing out.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's just that is I mean, that is crazy crazy.

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Speaker 6: It's crazier than your bamitak.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, the bamita is bad, but the Damitake's

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Speaker 4: completely well no, no, now we need it's right on point.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have you committed for that. Who on earth

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Speaker 4: told you to point the knife in the foot?

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Speaker 2: I just felt it, rich, I just felt it.

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is such a disagree I'm you know what,

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Speaker 4: Jared takeover.

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Speaker 7: A right, It's the rain, It's it's the knives, it's

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Speaker 7: the forks, it's everything.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy, crazy time toy at you hey.

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Speaker 2: into wow, what do you know? Oklahoma at Alabama?

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Speaker 5: How could this have happened? It's always like it.

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Speaker 2: Was played out this way? No, it's okay, So we

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Speaker 2: look at Oklahoma against a very flawed, completely fraudulent Alabama team.

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Speaker 2: Everybody who's been watching football knows this, right, Like all

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Speaker 2: kidding aside. If you look at Alabama, they rank fourteenth

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Speaker 2: in the SEC in rushing, near the bottom of their

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Speaker 2: conference in rushing. They rushed for against LSU. They rushed

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Speaker 2: for fifty six yards on twenty six attempts last week.

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Speaker 2: Can't run the ball at all. That is not a

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Speaker 2: good formula. That's the whole thing. I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: say that Alabama sucks. I'm just saying their days are numbered.

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Speaker 2: They're a team that is not built to last. When

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Speaker 2: you're against Georgia and it's a fifty to fifty ball game,

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Speaker 2: literally could have gone either way, Kirby smart goes for

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Speaker 2: it on fourth down, they don't get it. Props to

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Speaker 2: Obama for stopping them. If he kicks the field goal,

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Speaker 2: Georgia might win that game. Who knows you. Look at Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee has an awful defense, one of the worst. If

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Speaker 2: you're just clinging on too all. They beat the most

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Speaker 2: ranked teams. Look at Tennessee, They're barely ranked. Tennessee has

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Speaker 2: one of the worst defenses in all of college football.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get giddy about Bama's playoff chances because

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Speaker 2: they beat a ranked Tennessee team, not impressed, and against

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Speaker 2: South Carolina, you're lucky to beat a three and sixteam. Like, sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying anything Alabama has to sell over here.

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Speaker 2: They're way too overly reliant on Ty Simpson throwing the ball,

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Speaker 2: and with an okay defense and no running game, you

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Speaker 2: are not going deep in the college football playoffs. It

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Speaker 2: is not happening.

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Speaker 4: Well, that could potentially be true. It's a far cry

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Speaker 4: saying that from complete fraud, though, And that's.

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Speaker 2: Where that's why I think they're frauds.

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Speaker 4: Well, I understand, and I think maybe, like like Jared

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01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 4: said earlier, and I'll let Jared jump in quicker so

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Speaker 4: he has some room to stretch his legs on some

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Speaker 4: Bama love because Brian now has piled on. But what

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Speaker 4: I will say is is Bama, I don't think they're frauds,

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Speaker 4: but I don't think they can run the ball, and

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Speaker 4: they will.

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Speaker 5: Not run the ball against Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma's defense is really good against the run. They're really

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Speaker 4: good defense, one of the best in the nation, and

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Speaker 4: so Bama's got their handful there. I will say this

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Speaker 4: in support of Alabama. They squeak out a win against LSU.

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Speaker 4: Special teams helped out, and they did so with an

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Speaker 4: uncharacteristically poor knight from ty Simpson, who's been a Heisman

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Speaker 4: candidate for good reasons. He's having a great year, but

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Speaker 4: it was it wasn't off night, and that'll happen. And

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Speaker 4: the fact that they still win that football game even

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Speaker 4: though he's struggling, it bodes extremely well for Alabama overall

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Speaker 4: because his consistency has been measured and weighed and he's

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Speaker 4: delivered in some really clutch moments for Bama this season.

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Speaker 4: So if he gets back off the schneid, if it's

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Speaker 4: just a one game kind of out of pocket moment

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Speaker 4: against the Tigers where they needed everything they had to

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Speaker 4: beat them, and and they they mount any sort of

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Speaker 4: rushing attack to balance out this offense whatsoever. I could

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Speaker 4: see them beating Oklahoma, as they've beaten just about every

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Speaker 4: team they faced so far this season. I will say

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Speaker 4: this could there is there upset alert on this game? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: for sure. I think I think that's uh. I think

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Speaker 4: that's fair as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll just I'll just break the game down because

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Speaker 7: I'm not trying to, you know, get into the hot

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Speaker 7: take war about how good Bama is or how good

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Speaker 7: they aren't. I'm not wavering from my opinion that I

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Speaker 7: think you're way to win the national championship this year.

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Speaker 7: I've been on that take since August and I haven't

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Speaker 7: seen a reason.

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Speaker 6: Not to be on that take. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 6: care how you win games in college football? Can you

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Speaker 6: win games? And if the take is they're relying too

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Speaker 6: much on their quarterback, well that that's fine. That's I'm

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Speaker 6: fine with that. Like he's the best quarterback in college football.

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Speaker 7: I'd be perfectly happy if that's the guy that they

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Speaker 7: rely on every week to win them games.

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Speaker 6: From the neck up.

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Speaker 7: He's playing the position better than I've ever seen a

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Speaker 7: player this year play it, and I think that will continue. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: I'd like to see more from their run game. I

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Speaker 7: think when you analyze their offensive line, they're talented at

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Speaker 7: the tackle spots, but they can be had by by

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Speaker 7: good rush ends. Oklahoma had that until our Mason Thomas

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Speaker 7: was announced he wasn't going to play today. It's a

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Speaker 7: big Now Oklahoma's defense is a little bit less pressury.

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Speaker 7: I think that's a huge miss for Oklahoma today. He's

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Speaker 7: one of the best pass rushers in the country and

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Speaker 7: he's not going to play today, So.

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Speaker 6: Huge, huge boost there for Bama.

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Speaker 7: Ty Simpsons great has dropped significantly when pressured this year,

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Speaker 7: no doubt, and he's faced a lot of pressure this year.

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Speaker 6: He's only throwing one pick.

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Speaker 7: He's had more issues with fumbles than interceptions, and that's

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Speaker 7: something he's got to clean up. He has to be

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Speaker 7: a little more aware in the pocket when those rush

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Speaker 7: ends are coming, because that's again Procter, the left tackle.

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Speaker 7: He's like three hundred and sixty pounds. He is a

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Speaker 7: massive human, but when you are speed rushing him off

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Speaker 7: the edge, that is where he's vulnerable.

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Speaker 6: We saw. That's why they struggled against South Carolina.

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Speaker 7: It's because South Carolina has an elite pass rush that

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Speaker 7: can speed rush off the edge, and they faced a

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Speaker 7: ton of pressure in that game and he struggled to

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Speaker 7: push it down the field.

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Speaker 6: Same thing with Missouri.

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Speaker 7: You want to talk about going on the road and

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01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 7: facing arguably the best defense, one of the best defenses.

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Speaker 6: In the country. I mean, go look at the Missouri dude.

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Speaker 7: This is why I'm so excited about Eli Drinkwitz going

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Speaker 7: to be the next Penn State head coach, because get

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Speaker 7: some of these dudes to come to Penn State. I mean,

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Speaker 7: Zion Young is an absolute rock star. Damon Wilson probably

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01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,839
Speaker 7: be starting at Georgia this year. Nope, he's starting at Missouri.

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 7: He got Damon Wilson to leave Georgia and play for

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01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 7: Kirby Smart to go play in Columbia. And I know

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Speaker 7: this isn't a Missouri segment, but I think that is

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Speaker 7: why Alabama struggled in those games. They went on the

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01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 7: road and beat Georgia place nobody win. Nobody wins at Georgia.

1707
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 7: Bama won at Georgia this year, so I think that this,

1708
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 7: oh well, they're not winning by enough, they're not looking

1709
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 7: as impressive as they should like they're winning games in college.

1710
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 6: Well, you know how hard it is to go on

1711
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 6: the road in the SEC and win games. They're at

1712
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 6: home today.

1713
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,839
Speaker 7: John Matteer's thumb has looked a little bulky since the surgery.

1714
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 7: I don't think that's gonna be a weak thing where

1715
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, in a week or so, he's

1716
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 7: gonna look better.

1717
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 6: I think that's like a six month type of healing process.

1718
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 7: For example, I had a little bit of a tiff

1719
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 7: with Jackpot, got into a fight at the dog park,

1720
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 7: and the other dog bit me on the thumb. Oh

1721
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 7: and that was back in June. This was back in June, guys.

1722
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 7: I had to get two stitches on my thumb. It

1723
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 7: still hurts five months later.

1724
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 6: And so and that was my right thumb, and I'm

1725
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 6: left handed.

1726
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 7: I can't imagine what Matier's going through, having to go

1727
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 7: through thumb surgery like a month and a half ago.

1728
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 6: It's gonna take a while for that to heel.

1729
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 7: So I think Bama's defense is gonna probably back off

1730
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage, you know, make forced him to

1731
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 7: try to throw it downfield and stop the run, because

1732
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 7: that's what Oklahoma's done effectively this year. I feel like

1733
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 7: this is one of those games where if Bama gets

1734
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 7: out to a lead, it's gonna be tough for Oklahoma

1735
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 7: to match because I just don't think John Mattier has

1736
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 7: that throwing capability in him. But to Brian's point, Jackson

1737
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 7: Arnold last year in this game rushed for a buck

1738
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 7: thirty five minus sacks. I mean, they really took it

1739
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 7: to this Bama defense. This is a big revenge game too, Right,

1740
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 7: Bama was on two losses last year coming into Norman,

1741
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 7: and Oklahoma gave him their third loss and basically knocked

1742
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 7: him out of the College Football playoffs.

1743
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 6: So it's kind of the role reversal this year.

1744
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,879
Speaker 7: Right, Oklahoma comes in to tuscal Loosa on two losses

1745
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 7: and if they lose this game, they're probably out of

1746
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 7: the out of the CFP race.

1747
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 6: So it's a fun matchup. I wish us later. I

1748
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 6: wish Thomas was.

1749
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 7: Playing because Brian, I think that changes the dynamic for

1750
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 7: Oklahoma a lot.

1751
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, without Thomas in there a big deal. Like

1752
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 2: you said, Ty Simpson, not the same quarterback facing pressure

1753
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 2: is when he's clean. That's the case for a lot

1754
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks, right, So we'll see in this game. Man, Oklahoma,

1755
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: their defense is fantastic, and I don't think that Bama's

1756
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 2: going to have any rushing success at all in this game.

1757
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 2: So I think it's going to be another one of these.

1758
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 2: Hey Ty Simpson, do your thing, you know, like take

1759
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 2: us to the Promised Land brother, you know, and he

1760
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: might be able to do it again. But I want

1761
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: to see what this Bama defense can do. You saw

1762
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 2: Oklahoma step up last last time we saw him play,

1763
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 2: it was against a terrible Tennessee defense. And so I

1764
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 2: mean Bama's like the eighty five Bears compared to that

1765
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 2: Tennessee defense. But goodness, but Bama's won eight straight. This

1766
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: is the one thing I want to say, though, is

1767
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: because I halfway agree with you, Jared, halfway tepid agreement

1768
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 2: where I've had this rant for a while where there's

1769
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with an ugly win. Okay, we've become in

1770
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 2: we've gotten to this realm of style points, like well

1771
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: you got to win impressively, you got to win by

1772
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 2: enough points or who cares, and we're just dismissing wins

1773
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 2: way too often and I don't agree with that, and

1774
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: so it sounds like I'm doing that with Bama. But

1775
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 2: what I'm doing is, on one hand, giving them props

1776
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 2: for winning these games. That's the bottom line is did

1777
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 2: you win the game? Did you find a way to win?

1778
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't a Picasso, it wasn't the Mona Lisa.

1779
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 2: It was ugly, it was gritty, but you found a

1780
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 2: way that matters. But I also have to look at

1781
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 2: this and say, is that built to last? That's the

1782
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 2: key question there is is this formula fifty to fifty

1783
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 2: game against Georgia, lucky to beat South Carolina crushed by

1784
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,560
Speaker 2: Florida State? Is that built to last? I don't think so.

1785
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 2: You can't move the ball in LSU. I don't think

1786
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 2: it's built to last. So it sounds like I'm not

1787
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 2: giving them any credit whatsoever for winning games. What I'm

1788
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,719
Speaker 2: really doing is I'm crediting them for winning these games.

1789
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 2: I don't care how it looks you won the game,

1790
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,480
Speaker 2: but I just don't think that's going to be sustainable

1791
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 2: at all.

1792
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 4: Fair. Yeah, yeah, I look, I I'm here's here's what

1793
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 4: I'll say. I think that we're we're doing different things.

1794
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 5: Me and you and Jared.

1795
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 4: I think Jared is a complete believer in Alabama. I

1796
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 4: think he sees a team that can win a national championship.

1797
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 4: I think, Brian, you're holding them to that standard and

1798
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 4: you're seeing something that's less than that. And I'm just

1799
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 4: merely marveling at the fact that this team against ranked

1800
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 4: after ranked after ranked opponent, has had incredible success. I mean, again,

1801
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 4: it's hard to win football games, period, hard stop at

1802
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 4: the high school level, college football level. Professionally, it's never

1803
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 4: easy to win football games. And they've done it at

1804
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 4: a pace against competition that I don't know if there's

1805
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 4: a tougher schedule that any team has had a better

1806
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 4: winning percentage against this season, And I would put up

1807
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 4: their strength to schedule against most across the country, especially

1808
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 4: when you look at margin and victory in some of

1809
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 4: those games. Now, have they had squeakers, Yeah, but I

1810
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 4: think they've had some close wins against some really talented rosters,

1811
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 4: Missouri being one of them. In this game. If I'm

1812
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 4: being perfectly honest with you, the side I would lean

1813
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 4: more toward is Oklahoma Cats. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I

1814
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 4: because because when when when I when I do I

1815
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 4: think Bama's gonna win most likely. But do I think

1816
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 4: they're gonna win by a touchdown? I see it as

1817
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 4: more being a field goal decision, you know what I mean?

1818
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 4: I think they win my you know, three or four

1819
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 4: points here. I don't think it's gonna be one of

1820
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 4: those games where you walk away and go whoa Alabama

1821
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 4: jam Miller finally woke up, you know what I mean?

1822
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 6: Like whoa?

1823
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 4: The the Bama defense shut down the run and really

1824
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 4: bottled up MATERI. I don't think it's gonna be that.

1825
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be like what oh, another down

1826
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 4: to the wire win for Alabama. They squeak by Oklahoma

1827
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 4: to stay on this hot streak against conference opponents.

1828
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 3: That's what I think it's gonna be. Could be, This

1829
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 3: is gonna be a fun game. Sorry, go ahead, Brian, No,

1830
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 3: you're right, yep. I would yeah, it could be the case.

1831
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be shocked at all. Go ahead, last word, you.

1832
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 7: Got No, I think this is going to be a

1833
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 7: close game. I'm not I trust the market movement here.

1834
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 7: You know, we open a touchdown and now we're less

1835
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 7: than that. Obviously, the r Mason Thomas injury changes things,

1836
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 7: but Bama's not dominating teams in yards per play, like

1837
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 7: they're not winning sexy at all, And I don't frankly

1838
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 7: think that matters as much. But they're not blowing teams out,

1839
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 7: So to magically think that they're gonna blow out like

1840
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 7: Venables is gonna throw the Kitchen Sync a tie Simpsons today,

1841
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 7: I mean they are going to blitz the heck out

1842
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 7: of him, and how he handles that is going to

1843
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 7: be a huge point on whether or not they win

1844
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 7: this game. I think the reason that they win is

1845
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 7: it's more negative against Oklahoma's offense. Like I just I

1846
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 7: think if if Matier is not able to throw it

1847
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 7: downfield and they become one dimensional, I really think it's

1848
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 7: it's a tough ask to ask Oklahoma to go on

1849
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 7: the road and beat anybody in the SEC. Right now

1850
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 7: was essentially you know, you know, fifty percent of maybe

1851
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 7: full capacity if Matier can't really throw it downfield.

1852
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:28,799
Speaker 2: By the way, if if Alabama ends up facing Ohio

1853
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 2: State in the playoff, whoever loses, I would be like

1854
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 2: I told you so, I told you that, you know, right,

1855
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 2: like Bama was flawed or Ohio State was overrated. That's

1856
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 2: how I'll get down by the way. You know, I

1857
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 2: thought about this. I missed a golden opportunity this year,

1858
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 2: Like we're doing some predictions during the show and all

1859
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 2: that stuff. If I would have seen it coming, if

1860
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 2: I would have just called out and said, Penn State

1861
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 2: is a total fraud. They are a grease fire waiting

1862
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 2: to happen, the things, the ugly unchristian things that both

1863
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 2: of you would have said. I would have had fifty

1864
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 2: sound bites ready to fire, to drop after drop after drop.

1865
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: Year.

1866
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 6: I was really high on them.

1867
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 7: Everyone was just like Clemson, Hey, you could have done

1868
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 7: that with Clemson this year. You could have done that

1869
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 7: with a lot of teams this year.

1870
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 6: It's hard.

1871
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 7: You have to watch them play first, after those first

1872
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:24,440
Speaker 7: three games against those cupcakes, and they really weren't separating.

1873
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 7: I think that the writing was kind of on the

1874
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 7: wall that they weren't going to be as good as

1875
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:29,919
Speaker 7: maybe we expected.

1876
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 2: That was the golden opportunity that I just missed out.

1877
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 4: But hang on, hang on, And I will point this

1878
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 4: out because I'm not trying to help Brian's argument here,

1879
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 4: but just what you said right there proves a little

1880
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 4: bit of Brian's point with Alabama. So you looked at

1881
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 4: Penn State's early affairs and you said, even though they're

1882
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,719
Speaker 4: winning and it's hard to win at the college football level,

1883
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 4: that's right. You didn't like the way they were winning.

1884
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 4: That's all Brian's saying here is he's respecting the fact

1885
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 4: that Alabama's won these football games, but doesn't love the

1886
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 4: way they're winning that.

1887
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's different against Nevada FIU and I forget

1888
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 7: the other team than when it's Missouri on the road

1889
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 7: and Georgia on the road and Tennessee like a little

1890
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 7: bit of a different Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

1891
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 2: It is, but it's still like, what's your formula, what's

1892
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 2: your formula for success?

1893
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 7: It's Ty, It's Ty Simpson, and it's I honestly think

1894
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 7: you're a little bit too negative on their defense. I

1895
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 7: think their defense has some serious players. I just think

1896
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 7: the scheme can get a little bit wacky sometimes where

1897
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 7: they're bend but don't break, and so it appears as

1898
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 7: though they're giving up a ton of yards and that's

1899
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 7: why their yards per play margin hasn't been good this year.

1900
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 7: But I do think when push comes to shove, their

1901
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 7: defense has some serious players on it. Some real big

1902
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 7: time players on that defense.

1903
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,839
Speaker 2: All right, We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American,

1904
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. I'm Brian No. It is

1905
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 2: time for the tire Rack play of the day. Curry

1906
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: tips a, rebounds to himself, steps around. Jalvin Johnson takes

1907
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 2: the cross half, takes the bump, goes up, whips it

1908
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 2: up on the way back in.

1909
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 6: He baked it in, flipped it up, took the hit them.

1910
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 4: Calvin john just just threw it up.

1911
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 6: And it went it off the glass.

1912
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 2: Oh and I'll Curry magic here deep in the heart

1913
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 2: at Texas. Yeah, a little road win. Imagine that for

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Speaker 2: your screen. All right, So we get to number nine

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame taking on number twenty two Pit and Pat

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Speaker 2: Nardoozy is not too fired up about this game apparently,

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Speaker 2: but everybody else seems to be in Panthers nation if

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Speaker 2: he's like the only guy not fired up for this one.

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Speaker 2: He had the infamous SoundBite. I still can't believe he

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Speaker 2: said this. By the way, Notre Dame up to a

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Speaker 2: thirteen point road favorite and the total is fifty four

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Speaker 2: and a half. But this was Pat Nardoozy asked if

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Speaker 2: this game against Notre Dame is a must win game?

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Speaker 6: Here you go, you feel like this is a must

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Speaker 6: win for the team, Absolutely not.

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Speaker 8: You know, it is not an ACC game. I'm I'm

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Speaker 8: glad you brought that up. It's not an ACC game,

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Speaker 8: you know. I gladly get beat one hundred and three

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Speaker 8: or one hundred and ten to ten in that game.

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Speaker 8: They can put one hundred up on us as long

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Speaker 8: as we win the next two after that. But again,

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Speaker 8: our focus is on Notre Dame and then get as

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Speaker 8: many wins as we can.

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Speaker 2: It is just such a dumb statement, it really is.

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Speaker 2: How else can you say it. You're the leader of

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Speaker 2: a football team. This is a top ten Notre Dame team.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge opportunity for you, guys. And he's like, well,

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Speaker 2: it's not an ACC game.

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Speaker 4: Who cares?

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Speaker 2: They could beat us by one hundred really, like, where's

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Speaker 2: your competitiveness? And I thought about this too. This the

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Speaker 2: whole statement would make way more sense if this is

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Speaker 2: after Pitt has just lost to Notre Dame, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: imagine Notre Dame wins today and then you hear this

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Speaker 2: pat and our doozy SoundBite. It would make a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of sense. If he's trying to sell the team.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, guys, we still have our ACC games left.

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Speaker 2: We can still win a conference championship. Here we can

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Speaker 2: still make it to the playoffs. Like, don't worry about

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Speaker 2: the one hundred point loss to Notre Dame. There's still

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Speaker 2: a lot in front of us. It would make way

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Speaker 2: more sense if he said this after a Pit loss.

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Speaker 2: Should they lose, then before the game is even played.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe he said it before the game. But

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Speaker 2: at any event, Man, they do have a stud freshman quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Pit does and pittswan five in a row. Mason Heinschel.

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Speaker 2: He's been crushing it and the offense has been humming.

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Speaker 2: He's got three games run for at least three hundred

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Speaker 2: yards and three touchdowns. Pretty good as a freshman quarterback,

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Speaker 2: true freshman quarterback. So Heinschel is the guy for a

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Speaker 2: Pit that Notre Dame's pass defense gonna have to contend

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Speaker 2: with today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, look, Pitt's ranked for a reason, and

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Speaker 4: we covered this earlier in the show. But you know, look,

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Speaker 4: new listeners every single hour, every single minute when you're

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Speaker 4: on radio. So I'll repeat what I said about paton

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Speaker 4: Ardoozy here for the new listeners who've jumped on. That's

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Speaker 4: just inexplainable stuff. And I think at one point he

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Speaker 4: caught himself at the end there and went, oh, whoops,

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Speaker 4: what the hell am I saying?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we're gonna try to beat Notre Dame is

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Speaker 2: what I'm meant to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And by all that, what I

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Speaker 4: mean is we're going to really fight. Well, you should

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Speaker 4: have said that in the first place. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: sure if you could have all those words back, he

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Speaker 4: would send them out differently a second time around. What

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Speaker 4: I'll compare it to is if you are going to

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Speaker 4: make a comparison that a lot of people make, that's

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Speaker 4: kind of apt because you know, in war and football

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Speaker 4: there's a tremendous amount of strategy. You're dealing with a

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Speaker 4: lot of you know, people in fixed positions where you're

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Speaker 4: going to try try to find ways to attack the

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Speaker 4: platforms that are being presented, and then when the ball

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Speaker 4: is snapped, everything can change. Right when the first shot

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Speaker 4: is fired, everything can change. So you can either stick

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Speaker 4: with the plan or crumple it up and you know, improvise.

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Speaker 4: It's up to you as a strategist. And that's why

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Speaker 4: we always hear those comparisons between the military and football.

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Speaker 4: I mean, do I think they're one hundred percent apt to?

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Speaker 4: Obviously not the military. These are brave men and women

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Speaker 4: who are risking their lives for you know, our well being,

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Speaker 4: Whereas in football, you're playing a game and you're risking

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Speaker 4: life sometimes but mostly limb you know, the risks are

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Speaker 4: much lower. But I digress to keep up with the

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Speaker 4: comparison and say, you know, look, if you're a war

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Speaker 4: general and you are readying your troops for battle and

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Speaker 4: you say something like, hey, this is one we're willing

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Speaker 4: to lose, what the hell do you think the level

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Speaker 4: of effort is going to be from these brave men

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Speaker 4: and women. Do you think they're going to go out

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Speaker 4: there just a full throttle, helmets buckled, ready to fire

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Speaker 4: away on the enemy because you've given this impassioned speech.

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Speaker 4: Or are they going to be terrified hiding in their

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Speaker 4: foxholes because they're about to get slaughtered.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it is the worst possible message.

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Speaker 4: To send for the sake of the Pittsburgh team. I

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Speaker 4: hope none of them were listening to that mess, and

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Speaker 4: I hope that it is all maybe cover for what's

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Speaker 4: being said behind closed doors, like maybe he's gonna say, hey, boys,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell the media this and that about how

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Speaker 4: we don't care about the outcome of this game. Wink.

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Speaker 4: We all know how we really feel about this game,

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Speaker 4: am I right, Let's go beat the Irish.

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Speaker 5: I hope that's the case.

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Speaker 4: Because otherwise, if you're one of those players who's reading

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Speaker 4: yourself for battle, or if we're gonna compare it to

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Speaker 4: war or military action, if you're one of those war

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Speaker 4: fighters who are going to put it all on the line,

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Speaker 4: and your general goes to the podium and says mess like.

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Speaker 5: That, Yeah, yeah, give me a break.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is an interesting matchup.

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Speaker 7: Two. I do think this Notre Dame offense is I

2042
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 7: don't want to say better than expected, because we didn't

2043
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 7: really know what to expect with CJ.

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Speaker 6: Carr, But I'm impressed.

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Speaker 7: I really like the development that he's been able to

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01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,719
Speaker 7: make as a passer downfield, and I think they're trusting

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Speaker 7: him a little bit more than maybe they did early

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Speaker 7: in the year. And that's the difference between this year's

2049
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 7: Notre Dame and last year's Notre Dame, where you could

2050
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 7: stack the box, take away the run and you weren't

2051
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 7: really worried about getting beat downfield, and this year you

2052
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 7: can't do that because you've got car who can throw

2053
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Speaker 7: it downfield, and you've got an elite trio receivers fields

2054
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Speaker 7: and Fhaseon and Pauling, and it's gonna be really interesting

2055
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Speaker 7: to see how Nardoozy, who likes to run these exotic

2056
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 7: blitz schemes and really heat you up on passing downs.

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Speaker 6: It'll be interesting to see how he plays it.

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Speaker 7: The Pittsburgh linebackers heart and soul the team, Kyle Lewis,

2059
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 7: Brandon Lovelace, Cameron Lindsay. I mean, these are really good linebackers.

2060
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Speaker 7: I think they're getting a linebacker back from injury today too,

2061
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Speaker 7: who is an All acc player last year. So that's

2062
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Speaker 7: kind of the game within the game. How Pittsburgh handles

2063
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Speaker 7: this Notre Dame run game. Do they commit extra bodies?

2064
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Speaker 7: Do they take the Danton Lynn approach and say you

2065
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 7: can run it on us, but you're not gonna beat

2066
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 7: us deep. I wouldn't take that approach. We've seen how

2067
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Speaker 7: that worked out for USC. And on the other side,

2068
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Speaker 7: you mentioned Mason Hinchel five and zero since they went

2069
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Speaker 7: to him a ton of arm talent but still learning

2070
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Speaker 7: how to play the position.

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Speaker 6: Ten big time throws since Week six.

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Speaker 7: That's tied for thirteenth in the FBS, but twelve turnover

2073
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Speaker 7: worthy plays that's seventh most. Notre Dame plays a ton

2074
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Speaker 7: of man coverage. That is something that has been a

2075
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 7: little bit of a bugaboo for Heinschel. Right, He's got

2076
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 7: four turnover worthy plays against man. That's tied for the

2077
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Speaker 7: most an FBS over the last five weeks. So I'm

2078
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 7: a little concerned that he's still putting the ball into

2079
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 7: dangerous locations as most freshman quarterbacks will. And I think

2080
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 7: the quarterback edge absolutely in Notre Dame's corner here, despite

2081
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 7: the fact that Heinchell has looked good early on in

2082
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Speaker 7: his career.

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Speaker 2: How about this, Jared, just game script wise, right, who

2084
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 2: do you think throws for more yards? Because they're passing

2085
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 2: yards props are almost identical. Heinschel at two sixty four

2086
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 2: and a half c J. Carr at two sixty and

2087
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Speaker 2: a half, But you'd probably like Heinschel right, Like, just

2088
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 2: the way the game is most likely going to play out,

2089
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Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if Carr has more passing yards.

2090
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Speaker 7: Well, Reed's playing that's huge. I mean, he's such a

2091
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 7: big piece for Pittsburgh's offense, not only running it but

2092
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 7: also you know, catching it out of the backfield, so

2093
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 7: I think that is going to allow Heinscheld to maybe

2094
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 7: ease into the game a little bit. He's been dealing

2095
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 7: with an ankle injury over the last few weeks. It

2096
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 7: seems like he's healthy. One of the best and most

2097
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Speaker 7: unherlded backs in the country. He got a great year

2098
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Speaker 7: last year and again dealing with some injuries this year.

2099
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Speaker 7: But it looks like he's gonna play. So that's huge

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Speaker 7: for Pitt.

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Speaker 6: But the market doesn't care because we've seen a little

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Speaker 6: bit of movement on Notre Dame today.

2103
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Speaker 2: All right, how about three two one?

2104
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Speaker 6: Huh?

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01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 2: How about the top three teams in the country if

2106
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 2: you go rapid fire style, We've got Texas A and

2107
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Speaker 2: M hosting South Carolina. It seems like we talk about

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Speaker 2: this every week where they get They kick off here

2109
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Speaker 2: in about a half hour, right, it seems every week

2110
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 2: we're like, you know, South Carolina sucks this year, but man,

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Speaker 2: they got a lot of talent. They got a lot

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Speaker 2: of talent. There're three and six, but a lot of talent,

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Speaker 2: and they can sneak up on you and give you

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Speaker 2: a game. You know, huge underdogs here, they're seventeen point

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Speaker 2: underdog's spend some South Carolina money. This was as high

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Speaker 2: as nineteen and a half. It's down to seventeen. But

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Speaker 2: what do you think, rich, Do you buy it at all?

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Speaker 2: South Carolina given Texas A and M a game. If

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Speaker 2: you say they're giving them a game, that's they're certainly

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Speaker 2: covering the spread. You think that happens today?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I you know what, I do like South Carolina

2122
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 4: that side here, Although this isn't one of my bets today.

2123
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 4: I lean that direction because A and M. They're not invincible.

2124
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Speaker 4: They were in a fistfight against Arkansas a couple of

2125
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 4: weeks ago. You know, they ended up winning and surviving

2126
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Speaker 4: a barn Burner forty five forty two outcome. But like

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Speaker 4: you know, with enough talent on the opposing side of

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Speaker 4: the field, you can put up a fight against this

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01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 4: A and M team. And I don't think that South

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01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 4: Carolina is untalented. So yeah, if I were to lean

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01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 4: aside in this game, I would lean the side of

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01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 4: taking the points.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, tough one. We've talked about this before. SEC double

2134
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 7: digit underdogs tend to do pretty well well. But A

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01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 7: and M's kind of got this. They're sleeping with angels

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01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:07,600
Speaker 7: this year and they just signed Mike Elko to a

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01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 7: big extension. That news just came down about thirty minutes ago,

2138
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 7: which again pushes me more towards my prediction from last

2139
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 7: week that it's going to be Eli Drinkwitz the next

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01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 7: coach at Penn State, and Mike Elko, who was up

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01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 7: for a bunch of gigs, including the Penn State job.

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01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 7: It does seem like he's going to return and become

2143
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 7: one of the highest paid coaches in college football now

2144
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 7: with the A and m Aggie's really impressive season for

2145
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 7: him and that offense, which is really good. I like

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01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 7: their defense too. I really like their defense. I think

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01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 7: that's one of the more underrated units in the country. Frankly,

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01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 7: I did a film study on them this week. They

2149
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 7: are just They're so instinctual. Tory and York's one of

2150
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 7: the best linebackers in college football at the middle linebacker position.

2151
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 7: They've got a couple of really good edge rushers. Cash

2152
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 7: is how well the transfer from Bowling Green six to

2153
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 7: two fifty. I mean, just really twitchy off the edge.

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01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 7: They're gonna give South Carolina's offensive line a lot of

2155
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 7: problems today.

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01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, man, you look at South Carolina just

2157
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 2: playing murderers Row. They've played such a tough schedule, top

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01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 2: five strength of schedule nationally and Texas A and M's

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01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 2: head coach Mike Elko, who Jared's talking about. His quote

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01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 2: this week was, I don't know what they did to

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01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 2: the scheduling gods to get the schedule that they've got.

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01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 2: But man, they've played a tough, tough schedule, and there's

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01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 2: two ways to look at that. They certainly are battle tested,

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01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 2: but man, the attrition, it just, you know, it's like

2165
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 2: being on a treadmill on a ten incline all every week,

2166
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 2: you know, seemingly, and that catches up with you. So

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01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 2: another uphill test for the game Cocks today. How about

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01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: IU number two ranked in the country, twenty eight and

2169
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 2: a half point home favorites against Wisconsin. What a win

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01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 2: for Indiana last week. And I'm not talking friendly smack

2171
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 2: or unfriendly smack, you know, against your Penn State and

2172
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 2: NY Lyons, but game, man, what a game. Omar Cooper Junior.

2173
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 2: The catch in the back of the end zone sensational.

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01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 2: This is a get right spot for IU. But they've

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01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 2: got some injury on their offensive line. And how about

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01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 2: giving up six completions of nineteen or more yards against

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01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: that Penn State passing attack, Like what was that from

2178
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 2: ius defense? So they got a few things to get

2179
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 2: right and sort out as we inch closer to the

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01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game against Wisconsin today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I could see them being up huge at halftime.

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01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 4: I think this is the perfect spot for Indiana to

2183
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 4: go out there and lay a whoop down on a

2184
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 4: team that's really struggling. Danny O'Neill got carted off, so

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01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 4: he's not going to start for the Badgers. It's going

2186
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 4: to be a backup, a third string quarterback this season,

2187
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 4: coming in a freshman. So that doesn't bode well for

2188
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:44,680
Speaker 4: a team that's already been downtrodden this season. So I

2189
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 4: don't know if I love a play for a side

2190
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 4: on this game. I mean, I don't really see how

2191
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 4: Wisconsin's going to score a whole lot of points. The

2192
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,640
Speaker 4: total was hovering somewhere around the mid forties. It might

2193
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 4: have landed at forty four and a half, you know.

2194
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 4: I mean I would take an under because I could

2195
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 4: see Indiana being up huge in the third quarter. Call

2196
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 4: the dogs off. The scoring will slow down. But I

2197
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 4: don't I don't love. I don't love this game in

2198
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,640
Speaker 4: terms of a play, but in terms of like sharpening

2199
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 4: and honing an edge for Indiana to resume their stride

2200
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 4: as they get closer closer to the CFP. Yeah, I

2201
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 4: think this is a needed spot for Indiana to get

2202
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 4: well against a conference opponent that is unwell. Yeah.

2203
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 7: I bet the under in this game forty four and

2204
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 7: a half. It's down to forty three and a half

2205
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 7: at MGM. Now, I mean I I that's a key number,

2206
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 7: key total, forty four in the in the total world.

2207
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 7: But I still think that's the vibe for me in

2208
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 7: this game. We talk about Indiana's offense all the time.

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01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 7: Their defense is loogit guys. They're undersize, but they're pretty man.

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01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 6: They're just one of the toughest.

2211
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 7: Schemes that you'll face because they just they don't have

2212
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 7: any weaknesses at any level.

2213
01:52:58,840 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 6: They're very disciplined.

2214
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 7: Their secondary is comfortable being out on the island and

2215
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 7: not getting help. They play a lot of man, and

2216
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 7: then they have all these unique zone blitz schemes that

2217
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 7: they'll bring at you on passing downs.

2218
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 6: They're really really good defense.

2219
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 7: I think that's gonna be if you want to talk

2220
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 7: about Indiana separating themselves from a legit opponent in December.

2221
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 7: I think it's frankly, their defense more than their offense

2222
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,680
Speaker 7: that they're gonnaed to rely on. I mean, you go

2223
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 7: watch that Oregon game. They shut down a good organ

2224
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 7: a good Oregon offense for a big part of that game,

2225
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 7: and I thought that was the most impressive part of

2226
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 7: that game, not necessarily Mendoza and the offense, but really

2227
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 7: the defense. And Wisconsin, I believe they're starting like a

2228
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:46,679
Speaker 7: freshman quarterback today. It's not a good situation for Wisconsin's offense,

2229
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 7: and they're coming off of a win against Washington, So

2230
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 7: I could absolutely see this being like a seventeen to

2231
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 7: ten kind of slugfest.

2232
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, last one, real fast UCLA at number

2233
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 2: one Ohio State those overrated, as we detailed earlier today.

2234
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 2: Jared and Rich fully on board with that one. But

2235
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 2: kind of interesting in the prop betting market if you

2236
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 2: look at both quarterbacks. So Julian Sayan who's completing passes,

2237
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 2: had an eighty percent clip. That's insane. That's good against

2238
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 2: air let alone competition, you know.

2239
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 5: What I mean.

2240
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,720
Speaker 2: Even though it hasn't been the stiffest it's not been

2241
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 2: a tough, tough slate for Ohio State, unless you think

2242
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 2: Ucla is tough. That's it's been like the common theme

2243
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 2: over here what they've been facing in Big ten play

2244
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 2: and outside of Big Ten play, with the exception of

2245
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 2: Texas the first game of the year, that's all that

2246
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: they have in the resume. But Julian Sayan's passing prop

2247
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 2: is down from three oh two and a half to

2248
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: eighty seven.

2249
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 5: And a half.

2250
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 2: It's gone down fifteen yards. That's a that's a lot.

2251
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 2: And Nico Yama Leyava one thirteen and a half. That

2252
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 2: is solo for Nico Man, Like they're gonna be whaling big,

2253
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: is he not gonna go Yeah? Yeah, okay, Well but

2254
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 2: even they haven't taken it down at the under.

2255
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, no, yeah, he's uh so.

2256
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 4: I mean, but that goes a long way to say

2257
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 4: that Ohio State, you want to talk about a team,

2258
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 4: to get a team when they are fresh for the

2259
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,600
Speaker 4: pluck in UCLA is giving up a ton of yards,

2260
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 4: almost four hundred yards a game of offense. They're they're

2261
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 4: giving up thirty one points on average per game. And

2262
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 4: I mean it's like whatever Ohio State is favored by,

2263
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 4: you know, just just just give up the points. That

2264
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 4: would be the side I would play if I were

2265
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 4: going to play aside in this game. Ohio State is

2266
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 4: going to run through UCLA. I just don't see how

2267
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 4: they're going to stop anything. They're gonna want to do.

2268
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 4: Like you said, Julian's saying, is playing, I mean lights

2269
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 4: out this Ohio State defense. I mean, I know you

2270
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 4: used the word overrated earlier in the show, Brian, You're

2271
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 4: allowed to take that back if you want to.

2272
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 2: It's not going to show up today, but it will

2273
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 2: show up, will show up untested, overrated Ohio State budding

2274
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 2: and they.

2275
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 4: Will not be tested today.

2276
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 5: They will not be tested today.

2277
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 6: No, they definitely won't be Yeah.

2278
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Speaker 6: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Rapid Fire.

2314
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 2: All right, cheerble, start with you.

2315
01:57:59,000 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 7: What do you like?

2316
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:00,120
Speaker 4: Hey?

2317
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 1: Three and oh?

2318
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 7: Last week, I'm still terrible on the air twelve to

2319
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 7: twenty one, but hey, you gotta start somewhere. I was

2320
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 7: gonna give you Texas plus six and a half.

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01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 6: The problem is it's been bet down to four and

2322
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 6: a half in the last hour, so I can't give

2323
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 6: you that anymore. But I do think Texas keeps it

2324
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 6: close today. Instead, I'll call back from the prop it

2325
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 6: up segment.

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01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 7: I'll bring a play that I really like into Rapid Fire,

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01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 7: and that's the Brendan Soores the under passing yards to twenty.

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01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 4: Six and a half.

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01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 6: A bad matchup for Cincy today.

2330
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 7: Arizona plays a ton of man coverage, and I think

2331
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 7: he's gonna struggle to find the receivers are gonna find

2332
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 7: some separation.

2333
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 6: They're gonna struggle today.

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01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 7: Michigan State plus seven against Penn State. Terrible spot for

2335
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 7: Penn State after the Indiana loss. May have to come

2336
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 7: back and face that Jonathan smith let team that's fighty

2337
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 7: as a dog. They're coming off the by I think

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01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 7: Sparti keeps it close. And Wake Forest team total under

2339
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 7: twenty two and a half against unc Hey, don't look now.

2340
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 7: The Tarios defense playing pretty well over the last few weeks,

2341
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 7: and wake Forest offense is terrible with Robby Ashford, I

2342
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 7: think the Geeks don't score much today.

2343
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the over on this

2344
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 4: Duke versus Virginia match. Duke has a solid passing offense,

2345
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 4: Virginia has an explosive rushing offense. Duke plays zero defense,

2346
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 4: but they got a really talented quarterback. So I'm gonna

2347
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 4: take the over fifty nine and a half in that duel.

2348
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 4: We were just talking about Ohio State against UCLA. Give

2349
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 4: me Ohio State quarterback Julians saying over two hundred and

2350
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 4: eighty seven and a half passing yards. He's a clip

2351
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 4: eclips three hundred passing yards in four of his last

2352
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 4: five games, and he's really good against bad defenses. He

2353
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 4: doesn't play down to the level Iowa USC give me

2354
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 4: the under for forty eight and a half. Let's not

2355
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 4: overthink this. It's gonna be bad weather, it's gonna be

2356
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 4: heavy run from both sides. USC runs the football well,

2357
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 4: Iowa only runs the football. Totals forty eight and a half.

2358
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 5: Give me the under.

2359
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 2: I'll go fast, they have no choice. Give me Oklahoma

2360
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 2: plus six against a fools gold Alabama team. I get

2361
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 2: a tough defense, I'm getting points material uns around. Give

2362
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 2: me the Sooners plus six.

2363
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 4: I like that play.

2364
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 6: Thank you Rich, I appreciate that.

2365
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 2: Give me Sincy quarterback Brendan Sorosby. That's a Jared's guy

2366
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 2: from Cincy. I'm going over forty four and a half

2367
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 2: rush yards. A lot of man defense they struggle against that.

2368
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 2: Against man, you can rush it. Give me arch Manning

2369
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 2: over two twenty five and a half passing yards. I

2370
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 2: think he gets it done. A lot of yak today,