WEBVTT - Is The Government Shutting Down? (Ep 378)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're black.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown, ambition, ambition and ambition, Amandra.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey you were giving a little Looney Tunes flavored today.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like the nineties, baby, I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, how are you good? I got

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<v Speaker 2>can you tell? I have lashes like you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell, but I always get the blurry tiffany on on

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<v Speaker 3>this You Do podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I was like, I look like you. I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking like.

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<v Speaker 3>Something your high pony always makes you look perky and like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally I was looking at your lashes.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why don't my falsies like look like

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy's every day? Like, are you even wearing Maskara?

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy? I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I am indeed because I don't feel bad. Yeah, Rio

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<v Speaker 3>and I got together. He watched me get ready today.

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<v Speaker 3>It was pretty hilarious. He's got blush on his cheeks

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<v Speaker 3>and I shadow on his eyes and or knows what else.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cute.

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<v Speaker 3>You look gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I want to bring back our og segment,

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<v Speaker 3>be a buzz worthy. We should call it the ba buzz.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just come up with a new Okay, there seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be a lot happening in the news that's highly

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<v Speaker 3>relevant to the pockets these days. My husband and I

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<v Speaker 3>sat down last week just to have like a financial

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<v Speaker 3>check in, because now that I have my own business,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, hey, you like you making money? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>just let me know if I need to stop watching

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<v Speaker 3>these Rolex YouTube videos. And so we had like a

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<v Speaker 3>real heart to heart, like where we're at in our

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<v Speaker 3>finances and this government shutdown, he will be impacted. So

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<v Speaker 3>today we're taping. On the twenty fifth, the government Congress

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<v Speaker 3>are elected. Officials have until the thirtieth to make a

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<v Speaker 3>budget plan, make a budget deal, or the government will

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<v Speaker 3>shut down. Four million workers, including my husband, will be

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<v Speaker 3>instantly furloughed. But here's the shitty thing. He still is

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to go to work because I know

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<v Speaker 3>in the last shutdown, which was a couple of it

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<v Speaker 3>was twenty nineteen, he was home for over a month

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<v Speaker 3>or he was sorry, he was furloughed for over a month,

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<v Speaker 3>but he still had to go in because if you're

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<v Speaker 3>designated essential, you have to show up and work for

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<v Speaker 3>no pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever get that money back?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thanks to a law that wanted to effect in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nineteen. Now, if you're a federal employee, you are

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<v Speaker 3>guaranteed to get your back pay, so at least you

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<v Speaker 3>can show up to work knowing, Okay, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>To get a pay.

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<v Speaker 3>But you don't get paid though, like you have to

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<v Speaker 3>wait for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very Nigeria and no state in my Nigerian but

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<v Speaker 1>like literally for real, like so many teachers and government

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<v Speaker 1>officials and police officers, you know, they you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>this pause and pay for whatever political reason, and they

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<v Speaker 1>hope they get it, you know back.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really scary though, because I mean, who can afford

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<v Speaker 1>to work for free?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. So I did look up some resources though,

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<v Speaker 3>because and I'll give my husband some credit. He was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you should talk about this on the podcast and listen

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<v Speaker 3>to if he never brings up our podcast, if you

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<v Speaker 3>can afford anyway, So he said that a couple of banks,

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<v Speaker 3>actually USAA and Penn Fed Credit Union or offering zero

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<v Speaker 3>percent interest loans up to six thousand dollars. Okay, don't

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<v Speaker 3>get excited unless you already have an account with them,

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<v Speaker 3>because they have to have an account there and you

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<v Speaker 3>have to There's some you know, some rules. I think

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<v Speaker 3>for USAA you have to specifically have direct deposit from

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<v Speaker 3>a federal employee like paycheck system going into your account.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you you know, hit the requirements and you

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<v Speaker 3>are going to need a bridge for the next you know,

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<v Speaker 3>potentially month plus, I don't know how how long it

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<v Speaker 3>could be, that's for sure an option. But then I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to and also banks, like if you, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're worried about having late payments on your credit cards,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to not make your credit card payment, which

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've talked about in the past. Sometimes when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to times like these, keep food on the table,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, let the light bill go, whatever, whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>have to do. But in the like, at least call

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<v Speaker 3>your whether it's utilities, your creditors, you know, the subscriptions

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<v Speaker 3>that you have, and ask them if they have any

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like, uh, they're gonna wave late fees or

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<v Speaker 3>waive interest rate interest payments, or you know, wave maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the bill for the month potentially. I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>worth asking.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's been so many pauses, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the the.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it the writers strike writers and an actors strike.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I think I just I just read on

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<v Speaker 1>Chesca Lee Francesca, I can't remember her last name, that

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<v Speaker 1>they've come to it tentative agreement that you know. She

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<v Speaker 1>said that they are fairly pleased with. So that's great

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<v Speaker 1>because it's been like what a hundred and like what

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<v Speaker 1>three months or something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been the entire summer, you know, like these studios

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<v Speaker 3>and we're heading into fall. This is what all the

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<v Speaker 3>new shows should be coming back, and these studios are

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<v Speaker 3>sweating and I I'm down for listen. Did we miss

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<v Speaker 3>some content this year that this summer and did some

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<v Speaker 3>projects get postponed maybe indefinitely and screwed over because of

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<v Speaker 3>the strike. Yes, but the power of the force of

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<v Speaker 3>a union, it is on full display here for these

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<v Speaker 3>workers to go on strike and to have been so

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<v Speaker 3>widely supported across the you know, they done made Drew

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<v Speaker 3>Barrymore canceled recancel her show. Well, she was like, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, Drew so sweet. She's like, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>like I can do this in a way where we're

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<v Speaker 3>all happy. And they were like, yeah, they said she said,

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<v Speaker 3>just sat down. She really wanted everyone to just like

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<v Speaker 3>come together, and yeah, it was like so I was

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<v Speaker 3>just kidding there will be no episodes anyway, but the power.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was reading kind of like what might be

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<v Speaker 3>in the agreement, and I know the biggest thing is

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<v Speaker 3>AI and the threat from AI, Like, are you like

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<v Speaker 3>taking scripts from shows written by writers and downloading into

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<v Speaker 3>the AI bot system and they can create create, create

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<v Speaker 3>a new script based on this script by Shonda Rhymes

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<v Speaker 3>for Gray's Anatomy, you know. And then just the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that when you're and and I'm you know, we're all in,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, consuming this content on these streamers, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And back in the day when you would have episodes

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<v Speaker 3>get into reruns and then syndication, you would get tons

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<v Speaker 3>of like people will get rolled, not just the actors,

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<v Speaker 3>but the gripts, people who write, you know, people who

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<v Speaker 3>work in the background, makeup, hair, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So now with these streamers, there's no such thing as

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<v Speaker 3>like syndication. It's like, oh, you're on a streamer now.

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<v Speaker 3>So the agreement hopefully will have something in there where

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<v Speaker 3>they can actually make a little bit on the back end,

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<v Speaker 3>like when there's stuff gets picked up by these streamers.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm happy for them that it looks like it's

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<v Speaker 3>working that I work.

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<v Speaker 1>Because even like they like one of the proposed things

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<v Speaker 1>the studios wanted to do is like, let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>you're an extra. They wanted to be able to basically

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<v Speaker 1>clone your physical like you're an extra and they can

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<v Speaker 1>use you as an extra and anything and definitely forever

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<v Speaker 1>and ever and ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do you hear the words that are coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of your mouth, you know, and it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so predatory. I've just been finding that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot lately, even like you know, like I discussed I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was last week, how I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making transition in the budgetista to not dance so much

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<v Speaker 1>for a dollar. And I've been having conversations with different

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<v Speaker 1>organizations about what partnership might look like. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that always pisses me off the most is when somebody

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<v Speaker 1>negotiates with me as if I have not run for

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<v Speaker 1>six scessful companies in the last fifteen years and made

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<v Speaker 1>over fifteen million dollars, and I'm just like, do.

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<v Speaker 2>You think I'm stupid? Like there was one organization in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>Who like, I don't believe well, I don't particularly care

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<v Speaker 1>for the pure affiliate method. So for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>not familiar. When you're an affiliate partner, you say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this pair of shoes, and then you share

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<v Speaker 1>the shoes wherever you share them, email, texts, social media, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and when someone clicks on your link, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of So let's say the shoes are ten dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to give you a dollar. So every

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<v Speaker 1>time they sell a shoe, you get a dollar, they

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<v Speaker 1>get nine, and so on the surface, it seems like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair, it's not. Because let's just say I say

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<v Speaker 1>I love these shoes, and what typically happens when I

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<v Speaker 1>see something on social media, I think to myself, those

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<v Speaker 1>are cute shoes, and then I see them again because

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<v Speaker 1>you post up those are cute shoes. And then one day,

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<v Speaker 1>two three months later, I'm on wherever and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me go ahead and buy these shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's your link? I don't know, I'm not even thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about you in your link.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've introduced those shoes to me. Where is the

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<v Speaker 1>compensation for that?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you will in all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Person or a series of influencers or people will have

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<v Speaker 1>infused this company with all these new customers, only a

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<v Speaker 1>portion of which a small portion of which, because everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>not ready to buy in that moment, a small portion

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<v Speaker 1>of which will purchase directly from that person's link. But

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<v Speaker 1>now you've grown your business large largely off the backs

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<v Speaker 1>of these influencers, and then you get to sell it

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<v Speaker 1>for one hundred million dollars you know, as a bro

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<v Speaker 1>and you get you know, you get to roll in

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<v Speaker 1>a Dell. And I have built many a fintech company

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<v Speaker 1>without knowing when I first started. I mean, I've put

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand plus people into apps only to find they

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<v Speaker 1>were sold for like, you know, tens of millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold up, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. And so now the conversation is like you

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<v Speaker 1>want me to send a one The product or service

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<v Speaker 1>always has to be good. You know, I've never shared

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that I did not believe in or use

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<v Speaker 1>whatever myself, you know me and maybe be going back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth even with the show, we're like what yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're like who take what to take?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Vitamin?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, you know, so we're always very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>particular about like here, but just in our personal lives too,

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<v Speaker 1>like in our personal brands. And so one that it

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<v Speaker 1>has to pass that test of like do I really

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<v Speaker 1>believe in this thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And then two.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's not for every cause some of them it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really make sense to do this, but especially for

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<v Speaker 1>these like startups. I'm like, I ask for equity, right,

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<v Speaker 1>pay me on back end, and they're like, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, you want ten thousand dream Catchers so you

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<v Speaker 1>can then go and raise your your past seed round.

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<v Speaker 1>You could raise a round BC, so you get sell

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<v Speaker 1>it for it. And then when I get four dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a person, no, then go go pick somebody else, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>because over here, I don't just get people to sign up.

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<v Speaker 2>We change behaviors over here.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I send a DreamCatcher to a product

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<v Speaker 1>or service, we teach them how to use it, how

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<v Speaker 1>not to use it, how to infuse it in their

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<v Speaker 1>life in a way that's going to be meaningful. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a life long user. And black women over indexed

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<v Speaker 1>in the consumption of financial education tools. And I only

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<v Speaker 1>know that because it's a big financial company. The CEO

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<v Speaker 1>and I became friends and he shared that he was

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<v Speaker 1>like that women take up seventy percent of these fright

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<v Speaker 1>fintech like tools seventy percent of the women at least

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<v Speaker 1>for his like fifty million dollar company were of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that use the tool were women, and of that

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent, over fifty percent were black women. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, so I built your company.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he's saying hey, and I was like, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing that again, you know I'm not. And so

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<v Speaker 1>like that is the like it's almost like what I

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<v Speaker 1>love is that what Mandy and I do are like

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<v Speaker 1>same side or different sides of the same coin, like negotiating,

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating always.

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<v Speaker 2>For like what does fair look like?

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's what I'm navigating now, like what does

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<v Speaker 1>fair look like?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for partnerships.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking for you to show throw me a

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<v Speaker 1>corner too, which there's nothing wrong with that, But if

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<v Speaker 1>you are an influencer and you really dry valume, consider.

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<v Speaker 2>Having the equity question.

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<v Speaker 1>What would that look like I sent two thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand people, or if they're not willing to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pay an equity, maybe it's already a huge company already. Increase, like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't treat me this what I at least tell them,

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<v Speaker 1>don't treat me like somebody off the street. If someone

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<v Speaker 1>else can sign up for your affiliate program and get

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five dollars, I need fifty because I'm not the same,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, always negotiating more and now more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I love is that we're negotiating more on the

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<v Speaker 1>front end, and even if I don't get equity in

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<v Speaker 1>the company, I'm getting percentage on the back.

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<v Speaker 3>End, percentage of like sales.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes it's like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So for example, there's a company that we use I

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<v Speaker 1>really like for debt consolidation. You know, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only like maybe two or three that I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked that I've sent my sisters to. They had good experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like okay. And so it used to be

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<v Speaker 1>we'll pay you, like make it up a number twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars person that signs up, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like on my team, we have this. Oh Carol is

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<v Speaker 1>our efficiencies manager, and she was like, wow, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>the math. We've sent you know, hundreds of thousands, not

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars to them.

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<v Speaker 2>We should get a cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the percentage of the debt they're consolidating. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we've now negotiated that, like I think it's like one

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<v Speaker 1>point five or two percent.

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<v Speaker 2>It like, I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>What past quadrupled is, like the income that we make

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<v Speaker 1>in them, so you get per person, you see what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's like promoting like a checking a savings account. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>a percentage of the assets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because you're making a percentage of the assets being depositive.

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<v Speaker 3>Say it again, Yes they are, I mean, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then sometimes they're like ooh, no, tip, okay, go

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<v Speaker 2>find somebody else. Pick somebody else. We're busy over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Because here's the thing. When you have your this is why.

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<v Speaker 1>For if you're an influencer, consider creating your own products

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<v Speaker 1>or services like Mandy has, like I have, because Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly I know you make money from like partnerships and things,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have your own Mandy money makers. You have

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<v Speaker 1>your own product and service because if not, you become

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<v Speaker 1>basically a slave to whatever deal someone is going to

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<v Speaker 1>give you. Because I can decide, right, I'm sure many

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<v Speaker 1>you've had to decide do I put my energy? Why

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<v Speaker 1>should I give my energy to you for four dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a person when I can have someone side up for

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberature Academy and keep the full thirty dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>month for myself per person.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can only make so many asks of my audience. And

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<v Speaker 1>so these are some of the things that the shifts

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<v Speaker 1>that are happening in business. And you know, as we

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<v Speaker 1>get smarter, as we just like start to shift and transition,

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<v Speaker 1>these are some of the conversations that are coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, these companies, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Get uncomfortable when a sister be like, not too much

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<v Speaker 1>on not trying to pay me, just so grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. I yeah, I think I've just had

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<v Speaker 3>the benefit of watching you grow your business as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I when I approach Mandy Money Mandy money Makers,

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<v Speaker 3>when I launched a couple of years ago, I always knew, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, that's a nice thing to have. As an influencer.

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<v Speaker 3>You have, you know, brands that come to you because

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<v Speaker 3>you've built your audience and they want to leverage it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it can be you know, financially lucrative. But for me,

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<v Speaker 3>it was never I never wanted to be just going

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<v Speaker 3>after those little this brands deal that brand deal, a

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<v Speaker 3>few thousand bucks there, you know. And even though I

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<v Speaker 3>was paid like over thirty k just to do an

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram Live one time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was excited that that was a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>I land negotiate that with your help, thanks to But hey,

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<v Speaker 3>when you want me to agree to not go with

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<v Speaker 3>anyone else for months, like to not go with any

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<v Speaker 3>of your competitors for months, then yeah, can I get

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<v Speaker 3>some income anyway? So yeah, I just those are my

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<v Speaker 3>fun like little surprise nuggets, you know, like, oh, put

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<v Speaker 3>this in the fund for the you know, the for

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<v Speaker 3>what for taxes, for taxes, like for my dream house.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coming. But yeah, So but beyond that, you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, having your own products and also I'm genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>creating things that I want to fill a need that

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<v Speaker 3>are useful to people. So how do you get on

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<v Speaker 3>this whole like, oh, the Writer's Guild and all that, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Creating your own thing instead of waiting for everybody to

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<v Speaker 2>just pay you.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to pick your brain because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>find con. I'm going on our anniversary trip to Fincome

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<v Speaker 3>by myself, and I'm gonna go and just have a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm just gonna have dinner for two, but

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<v Speaker 3>your seat will be empty and I'll just.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk your poor little something for I know, it's your.

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<v Speaker 3>Birthday week, but it's New Orleans and it was where

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<v Speaker 3>you met.

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<v Speaker 2>The river.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just you know, the origin. But I am

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<v Speaker 3>going and I'm doing I'm doing a I'm hosting my

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<v Speaker 3>own breakout session and it's and I pitched it months

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<v Speaker 3>ago and I'm like, oh, yeah that. But it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be how to bank your brand, tips for negotiating

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<v Speaker 3>your contracts and negotiating your brand deals. So tipmona, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be downloading your your brain a little bit for that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get back to the b a buzz. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about the government shutdown, the writer's strike and

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<v Speaker 3>actors strike. Let's talk about student loans.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends are like, October instead of Winter's coming October?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it October first?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to find it said everything even says

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<v Speaker 1>even on their website, like like the government website, it

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<v Speaker 1>says it would be due sometime in October.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Does that mean that if we're doing really bad in

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<v Speaker 3>the polls, we will extend it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really yeah, not so clear.

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<v Speaker 3>I hesitate to I don't want to make it like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it is pretty partisan, but anyway, whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not you support her, I feel like most of our

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<v Speaker 3>listeners probably do. But AOC Alexandria, OK, she actually launched

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<v Speaker 3>a really great, very educational series, nonpartisan series, just on

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<v Speaker 3>the facts of what's going to happen when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to student loan payments resuming and even people may be

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<v Speaker 3>eligible for forgiveness and not know it. So I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to drop a link to her to whoror to her

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<v Speaker 3>ig in our show notes so you can or if

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<v Speaker 3>she has them, like you know, organized somewhere. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was watching a few of those and they were hell helpful,

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<v Speaker 3>even just for me to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm in here just looking. It's I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like I'm literally on.

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<v Speaker 1>Studentaid dot gov, and my my, they're not as helpful

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<v Speaker 1>as you would like them to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It basically it says student loan interest will resume starting

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<v Speaker 1>on September one, twenty twenty three, and payments will be

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<v Speaker 1>due starting in October. And maybe what they mean is that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, everybody's payment date is different, maybe, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you normally pit, so maybe that's why we

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<v Speaker 1>will communicate with borrows from now on until their first

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<v Speaker 1>payment due date.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that's so basically your interests has already started

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<v Speaker 1>and payment whenever your normal paydate is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, call your servicer, call us, see what's happening. Make

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<v Speaker 3>sure you got it hooked up to the right bank account.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been three years, over three years at this point

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<v Speaker 3>from this pause and student loan payments. I do have

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<v Speaker 3>a little silver lining if you're wondering like those forgiveness programs,

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<v Speaker 3>because AOC talks about that in her messages about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you may be eligible for forgiveness or a debt cancelation,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, look into what you know your potential eligibility.

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<v Speaker 3>Is one of my Mandy money makers. I won't put

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<v Speaker 3>her name out there, but we just talked the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>She has worked for years for a community college and

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<v Speaker 3>had over two hundred thousand dollars worth of debt because

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<v Speaker 3>she went to law school. When you look at this

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<v Speaker 3>person's resume, I'm just like, Wow, you love you some school.

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<v Speaker 3>You're very smart. But went to law school, she went

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<v Speaker 3>to grad school, had all these degrees anyway, over two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand dollars, but because she had worked over I

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<v Speaker 3>forget the ten years in public service. She got a

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<v Speaker 3>letter the week after she was laid off from her job.

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<v Speaker 3>She got laid off in May. I just met her

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<v Speaker 3>at this past September. But anyway, she got go in May,

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<v Speaker 3>and then like the week after, she she said she

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<v Speaker 3>prayed to God for like a sign that he still

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<v Speaker 3>had her back and that she was still in you know,

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<v Speaker 3>doing the right thing. And she got her loans forgiven

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<v Speaker 3>through PSLF.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that was g O D.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So you know, for those of you who are

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<v Speaker 3>who are wondering if you're eligible, those things are still happening.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, we can post something for some resources

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<v Speaker 3>in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And also don't you know, don't forget to apply for

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<v Speaker 1>things like income based for payment that you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>your income has changed, because you know, when all this

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<v Speaker 1>came to effect, you know, this was during.

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<v Speaker 2>COVID, that was a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, you might have had a child, maybe you have

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<v Speaker 1>the little COVID baby, you know, you know, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was home, you know, getting it in and like you

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<v Speaker 1>have a baby now that can also affect your what

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<v Speaker 1>your income is.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's not just your income.

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<v Speaker 1>They also look at family size when when calculating what

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<v Speaker 1>your income is and so don't you know, to Mandy's point,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a doctor who, uh, she too, got

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<v Speaker 1>her loans forgiven, and she said, if she would have

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<v Speaker 1>had to pay all that back with interest and everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>it was close to a million dollars, like like if

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<v Speaker 1>she would have like you know, with the with how

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<v Speaker 1>many years and the interest pit And she was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>so she didn't owe a million, She owed like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a few hundred thousand, but she was like, if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to pay them and finally pay them off at

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<v Speaker 1>forty or fifty or whatever, it would have been close

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<v Speaker 1>to that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's life changing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and wan she was. She's in her fifties, so imagine,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean she's like, there's no I was gonna die

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<v Speaker 3>with this debt. It's two hundred something thousand. Yeah. Ah So,

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<v Speaker 3>m well, if.

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<v Speaker 1>That suspects everything, I don't think people realize that when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to like, you know, your debt, it affects

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not you can purchase a home, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because they take that into consideration. Your debt income, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>your debt, your your debt to income ratio is like

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<v Speaker 1>the second most important number to your credit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking courches at home, getting a car, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it affects your credit overall. Like I know one

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<v Speaker 1>of my she's an attorney, but right before she got

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<v Speaker 1>her first job, she was so scared because her credit

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't good and they told.

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<v Speaker 2>Her that they factored in credit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know some can do that and then yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you're like in a finance Yeah, girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl, They're like, no, I handle this money with your

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred credit score. They're like, you'll be siphoning off

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<v Speaker 1>money to make sure you call, you get your brother.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not worried about student debt? Is Coco Golf? Did

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<v Speaker 3>you see that interview she gave.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I love it for her that she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know how to say the word debt.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I don't have debts with a B. She

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm so unfamiliar with this word. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even pronounce it. She's like, I'm nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, girl, nineteen year olds have depths too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, you know, thankfully my parents because

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<v Speaker 1>my parents. So for those who don't know Coco after obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if she won the US Open US Open right, US Open,

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<v Speaker 1>and and she she was on live, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>talking to the people and when you win, your your

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<v Speaker 1>her prize money just for that particular I'm tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>It's three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was live and someone said, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do with your three million dollars? Are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay down some debt? And she was like debts,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't. I'm not familiar with depths.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally said, I don't. I don't have depths.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was just like, but I love that for

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<v Speaker 1>her because you know that one her parents have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to one. I mean, we see the three million,

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<v Speaker 1>but Coco has made I think I read someplace like

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<v Speaker 1>something like eighteen million dollars this year, just endorsements and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one thing. And I love the fact she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I still love It't hold my parents. I said, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>parents keep her close.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you, if you do want to go to college,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not saying that you need to because like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>the PR campaign, they need a PR team, the whole

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<v Speaker 3>four year college degree people. But anyway, because the messaging

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<v Speaker 3>is that is maybe not worth it as much as

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<v Speaker 3>people want you to believe, but if you know a

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<v Speaker 3>sport like you, if you know a sport or you

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<v Speaker 3>play an instrument like that, can really pay your way

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<v Speaker 3>through college. And I think I'm realizing that though, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>now that I have a kid, and I think about

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm listening to like how you can get college tuition

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<v Speaker 3>paid for if you have a sport, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a real sport, not the Hollywood actors who you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bribe people to say that their child is their professional

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<v Speaker 3>rower or lacrosse player or whatever. I'm like, Rio, what will.

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<v Speaker 2>Your sport be?

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<v Speaker 3>Is the lego building a sport?

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<v Speaker 1>I played tennis, Honestly. My sister Lisa got a full

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<v Speaker 1>scholarship to Temple with a tennis scholarship because she was

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<v Speaker 1>number one in the States in doubles when she played.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she decided after the freshman year, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like that, so she dropped the team and scholarship.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know those are combined. She's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>won't Daddy just paid for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, oh god, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>So pulling your weight, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we all just had to sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was considering it, and as we all said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you bring your ass back home, She's like, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, I was like, Lissa, you can't quit

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. I didn't like the catch. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>well then you must. She loved Philly, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>she went to temple, Baby Lisa. Yeah, this is baby Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>She tried it, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point already by then, girl, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>well then you you're behind us coming home, and she did,

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<v Speaker 3>and she went to Rutgers, and she really was like

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<v Speaker 3>mad at us for a while because we told our dad, no,

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<v Speaker 3>do not pay at the pocket, because that doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't paint a poet.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to pay the pocket anyway, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least let it be in state, because we live in

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So she had to come home. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>big dummy, been and Philly.

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<v Speaker 1>Living it up with all the neosol life, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>back home in this strict household where you can't do nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>So she learned her lass not that far from Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, well I guess, cause you know, it's one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>She lived on campus because once she had to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Rutgers. She lived home, right, you know, and plus

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<v Speaker 1>two like you know, just yeah, well, you know Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to lie, and she did. But I was so shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was like, I guess I'll pay. We were like, now,

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<v Speaker 1>are you crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>No, she was so nonchalot. I remember my dad was like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you see this?

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<v Speaker 1>Built her credit card, her first credit card, built four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars at CBS. At CBS, yo, I said, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>what could you possibly when I tell you she'd buy

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<v Speaker 1>all that? I was like, because you know how, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there are things you could buy the supermarket way cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like, girl, why should I be worrying

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<v Speaker 1>about things like that a toothbrush? I mean, yo, Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>was something else. Raising that girl was something by then.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents are so tired, so it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was on us. We was just like girl over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Even now, I'm still raising her at thirty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Age. Oh all right, anymore buzzy ba ba ba buzz

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<v Speaker 3>material for me?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always like this is just I mean, this was

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<v Speaker 1>out like a while ago, but just recently.

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<v Speaker 2>What's his name? Oh, he's he's married to Gabrielle Union.

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<v Speaker 2>Dayne raid Wade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, had this like interview where I don't know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not really about him, but it kind of sparked

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<v Speaker 1>back up for me when we learned. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>when Gabrielle Union said that she and Duayane split the

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<v Speaker 1>bills fifty to fifty?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, did we talk about that possibly?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was gonna say, like, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, like cause he's significantly wealthier than her,

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<v Speaker 1>like three hundred million or something like that his networth

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>her she's thirty million.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like she's thirty million. So no, I mean, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>She's it's wealth on wealth, but it's a huge difference

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<v Speaker 1>to split fifty to fifty. And it was because I

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<v Speaker 1>think one day Dwayne said something about my house and

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<v Speaker 1>my this my that she said, oh, we gonna stop

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<v Speaker 1>all at my ma stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We go on fifty to fifty. Yeah, but I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that. I do hate that for her.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think when relationships with desperate income it

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<v Speaker 3>is I think that you want to you want to believe. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna business for us. It's all for us until

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<v Speaker 3>the other person wants to do something that's out of

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 3>alignment with your values. And I speak from experience until

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<v Speaker 3>the other person decides they want things like a Tesla

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<v Speaker 3>and three thousand dollars custom.

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<v Speaker 2>Suits right or or denale. You know, in the case

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<v Speaker 2>of Jilders.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a big old truck thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Big old nasty truck because with six six and it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be like people like when you come home

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<v Speaker 1>on this trip, it's gonna be, there's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm like them.

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<v Speaker 3>That is when it becomes real hard. And that's when

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<v Speaker 3>you want to pull that whole card. Well, who's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>pay for it? My therapist says, it's not okay to

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<v Speaker 3>do that.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>It's not okay, it's okay.

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 3>And like other people. But yeah, I think in that case,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the story but you and Joel that you

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 3>shared multiple times is like how he like you, wanted

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 3>to keep your lifestyle a certain level so that he

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 3>could always you know, contribute and all of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that that's great. But I also feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I would never want someone to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to tell me no, So that's why I'm always going

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<v Speaker 3>to have mine. Oh yeah, always, And like fifty to

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 3>fifty is so literal, like I doubt. They're sitting down

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like the mortgages. Their mortgage probably like thirty

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars. I don't know where's your fifteen thousand and

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 3>five cents? You know, I doubt that. But knowing that

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<v Speaker 3>if we're going to do something, we're gonna do it

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 3>together and we both need to be on the same

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 3>page about it, that's that's the hard stuff as a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just navigating that, like I like one.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a little easier and maybe for

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you too, because you when you and and and Enrique

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>got together, were you kind of making the same financially.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Or oh goodness, I don't know what he was making.

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I know I was maybe like fifty k. I think

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I was making a little bit more. But he was

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<v Speaker 3>very early in his goodman days. Yeah, so then I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know he's worked his way up.

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<v Speaker 2>When because some time to think.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, obviously, y'all know when I met Durell, I was

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>a preschool teacher. He was a maintenance man, so he

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was neck and neck. Basically I was making thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. And then, like you know, we stopped seeing

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<v Speaker 1>each other, and then when we started to date a

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit when I was in my thirty my early

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<v Speaker 1>early early thirties.

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I think I was like twenty nine thirty.

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I was making nothing because I had just started the

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Budgetista and I was basically on unemployment. And you know,

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>he was well into working for housing, and I don't know,

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe he was making forty or fifty, I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at thirty four we started dating like for real,

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<v Speaker 1>for real, I was making six figures engross in business,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably taking home about fifty or sixty. So we

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>were kind of neck and neck, you know at that

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>time when I when I actually moved in with him,

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I was thirty four, and so yeah, in the halfway

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>hood we were living, but he paid all the bills

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<v Speaker 1>to because I moved in with him, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want me to go half?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it was a halfway hood.

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>So and he worked for housing and he was like

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>on call, so they had him. They had we had

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a really nice time house, but it was still housing property.

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So our rent was only nine to twenty, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, do you want me to go half?

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I got it, And so I didn't

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>have a car note he did, so he could continue

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to pay his own bills, and so he just basically

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>took care of all the bills, you know what he

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was already taking care of when I moved in, And

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>then it allowed me, without having to worry about bills,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to really grow the budget neista and like the like.

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<v Speaker 1>Within two years of living there, you know, went from

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>six figures annually to seven figures not me take home,

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's the business. So now I'm not making six

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>figures take home and then more, and so I think

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.959
<v Speaker 1>that made it a little easier because it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>how I am now trying to navigate dating, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I, you know, can make and I've made seven

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>figures take home, multiple seven figures take home at least

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>high six figures take home and not with It's not

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>like whoever I date. Now we've built this together. Yeah,

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, so Withirell, because people are like, oh, how'd

0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you make it work? I'm like, yeah, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>to understand he met me preschool teacher Tippany. I never

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>ever once felt like he's only here why Because when

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I was a preschool teacher, he was like one day she's.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Gonna randomly started fighting.

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, so that was easier and so but now it

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>is kind of like challenging because certainly, you know, there

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>are guys that I've gone out with who you know,

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>make way way way less, and you know, like there

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>are a couple of guys have dated that make more,

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so I'm still navigating like what, like

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>where where the line is for me, you know, because

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I haven't had to navigate that, because like I didn't care.

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>With Jarrell, I'm like, whatever, we you know, I built

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>this essentially because you've been here to support me, and

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>then we just navigated accordingly. And by the time I

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>really blew up, I was able to say, Okay, you

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>could continue to pay the bills. I will save an

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>invest for us, and that's what I'm I did, you know,

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>But with somebody who doesn't contribute to my household, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like what, I don't know what the girl is who

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>make like really good money when they're in a dating

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>like space, you know, because I think I read a

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>statistic that said, because I may I prefer black men,

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that like less than eight percent of black men make

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred thousand dollars a year, and so it's

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>like less.

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Than eight percent, Well, The thing is like, I don't

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I feel it's very different. You're just in such a huge,

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 3>hugely different phase. There's no way, even if you met

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Superman today that you probably would have approached it the same. Yes,

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, like no one's ever going to be able

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 3>to go back with you and your you know, late twenties,

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 3>early thirties, building your business in Durell, y'all, when you

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>were in that mindset where you didn't know things were going,

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>and you're never going to operate from that space again.

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I kind of feel like, I don't even and how

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 3>soon would it even be. I know that you're dating,

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 3>but I feel like you're really far away from living

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 3>with someone.

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Partnership.

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well I don't think I'm gona split bills.

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know that. I I mean, I guess

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 2>you never know.

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.959
<v Speaker 1>But I guess I'm just thinking because even as you're dating,

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you want to be my for like

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>this could possibly, especially at this age. It'd be one

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>thing if I was twenty one. I mean, to be candid,

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>The guys who are dating now are not dating casually,

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>not that that's not what I found. You know, they're

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>dating with the intention of like, if not marriage, like

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>deep partnership, and so I'm kind of like, well, how

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>does that look, you know, because it's not me, I mean,

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>you know me, I'm in my target's best always like this,

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little Amazon outfit.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>So it's not even that.

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just if I'm going to go on a nice vacation,

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, all on my MX points because I'm still

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>about to be said, still I'm still flying business and

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>still staying in a nice hotel.

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, who paying for you?

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh, like should you pay for them or not?

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Well I mean or not? Why not? You know, but

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>meaning like what does that? You know, as those.

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Change your expectation for vacation so that they can equally contribute.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I know, I know economy anymore, you know.

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's the kind of things that like I kind

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of I mean, it hasn't come up yet because I'm

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>not traveled with anyone or whatever. But you know, as

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you're dating, I'm just like, I'm thinking about that now,

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>where you know before it's like, no, I wouldn't mind

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>dating someone who made less. I'm like, no, you're talking

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>about Jirell. That was a very specific we came up together.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>This is different, you know, like yeah, so I don't know,

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 1>it's just like just something that I just been thinking

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>about as I'm dating, like all these different ranges, Like

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's one guy who was a teacher. I

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.879
<v Speaker 1>mean teachers make a solid you know, but not a ton.

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Because my rule used to be before you have to

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>be able to make enough to take care of yourself

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 1>and your responsibilities. That's like at the bare bones, make

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>enough to take care of yourself and your responsibilities. But

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.840
<v Speaker 1>now it's like this that have to really change because

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that might mean that you can't go on a trick

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>with me because you have just enough to take care

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>of yourself and your responsibilities, but nothing excess, you know,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>or does it get awkward like you know, like you know,

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:57.919
<v Speaker 1>I have this beautiful condo which you see a mandy

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>like it's just coming along like you definitely, oh my gosh,

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>it's giving wealth. Like even my most cynic sisters are like,

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my god.

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:08.439
<v Speaker 3>Right, and so like when.

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>You come over, you gotta feel intimidated by that, you know,

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>or you're going to think like the thing because I'm

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>really simple, like I love a poem and a card

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and tulips some whole foods, or you're going to think

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that you have to like spend a whole lot of

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 1>money in order to like, I don't know. These are

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>just things that have just been coming up of like

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>where I am, and I just never thought about that before.

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>And also too not that most men are not gold diggers,

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>but you think about that, like is that a thing

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that you'll get like a guy who was like, ooho,

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>hopefully she'll pay for things. I find most men are

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>not like that. I'm assuming, but I don't know. I

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>haven't been in a dating pool long enough to be like,

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, what's the temperature?

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Are there? Gold digger guy? Is that like a is

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:45.760
<v Speaker 2>there an uptick?

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm sure they exist. Don't get your shoes

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 3>stolen on the tinder hed go to TikTok. I feel

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 3>like you're a perfect partner. Your ideal partner is out there,

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, I think you're going to figure

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 3>it out. I feel like, and you're gonna tell a

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 3>very unique story of how it worked for you and

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 3>anyone who's listening on a similar journey or in a

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 3>similar place, Like everyone's puzzle piece is shaped different, you know,

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 3>like the jigsaw of the relationship and the life. I

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 3>just I choose optimism in terms of you're too fabulous,

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 3>too bright, shiny, spectacular with your big life. You know,

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 3>if you if you so choose to share it with someone,

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 3>you're too fabulous not to and they will rise to

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 3>that occasion. There will be someone, you know. That's how

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I feel, because the world where that doesn't happen just

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 3>don't make sense to me.

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not in rush, right, I'm just like,

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wow, is this what chopping in our handy streets?

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Navigating? Just I like being inside the house.

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, your husband can work a nerve, but you're like,

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>it's the nerve I know.

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for reminding me that. Yeah, it is cold out there, girl,

0:37:57.920 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 3>must I be dating with kids? So it's cute when

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 3>you're a but when you're a woman you put that

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 3>in your profile.

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's always crazy.

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>When I see guys, I'm like, oh my baby six months,

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, sorry, you're busy.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I need you to focus.

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Focus.

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, let's break.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got a really nice brother, hit me in

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the dam and I'm just joking a review.

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 3>If I don't think you want all of that, Okay, I'm.

0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Just joking, all right with back in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back for the wait to know.

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<v Speaker 2>And now it's time wait, no, no, damn it. What

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 2>can I booster?

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, booster And now it's time to boost up break

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>boost up?

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Like boost up, break, Yo, you're gonna boost? Are you

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna bit? What you're gonna do? What you're gonna to? Mandy?

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna boost and break? You wanna go for

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 2>at second? Mine is like a light light boost.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna boost because I was just listening to an

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 3>interview with Leslie Jones of SNL Ghostbusters Comedic fame, and

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really know much about her backstory but her

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 3>memoir Leslie Ethan Jones, I can say it. I was

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 3>listening to her on NPR, so she had to keep

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 3>saying Ethan, But it's Leslie fucking Jones has her new

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 3>memoir coming out, and I just thought it was so

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 3>her interview was so great and she's so you know.

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 3>She a story about how both of her parents passed

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.359
<v Speaker 3>away within six months of each other, and because they

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 3>didn't have life insurance, she worked a gig during her

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 3>father's funeral so that she could pay for it, like

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 3>in Amsterdam or something like that. But I just think

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 3>and talk about a story of your journey is on

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 3>your own timeline, because she didn't really hit it big,

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 3>so she was in her forties, you know, yeah, and

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 3>she's in her fifties now and be on top of

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 3>being hilarious, I just think it's a great just a

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 3>great story and she's fabulous. And there's one quote that

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 3>has continued to stick with me from and it's a

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 3>quote that she took from God dang, who is that

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 3>comedian Kat Williams. He told her apparently when she was

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 3>when she was like, you know, building her career and

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 3>stand up, he said, stop working from a place of

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 3>desperation and you'll get bigger gigs. She's like, what do

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 3>you mean, I'm desperate, I'm broke, as a joke. I

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 3>am desperate. He's like, no, but you're making decisions at

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 3>a desperation, saying yes to things that are not worthy

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 3>of you, saying things that are small. And I just

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 3>love that that quote, and it reminded me why. Like

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 3>when I got back from maternity leave, I had a

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 3>couple of speaking engagements that I just that were I

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 3>don't know like they were. They were fine, But I'm

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 3>in this. I'm in this like very intense reaping period.

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 3>We talked about that before I'm reaping, I'm writing my book.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to be really really particular about what I do.

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.919
<v Speaker 3>And I said no, And I was like, but that's

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.399
<v Speaker 3>thousands and thousands of dollars that you just gonna say

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 3>no to. Yeah, I just just and I was a sham,

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 3>not a shame, but I was scared to Like I

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to tell my husband about it because he

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 3>could have been.

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Like, what do you mean?

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 3>But I just said, I'm going to save space for

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 3>a bigger and better I'm going to save space for

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 3>the thing that I can't say no to. And if

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>I say yes to these things that I can say

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.439
<v Speaker 3>no to, I'm giving up what limited extra energy I have,

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 3>and within a couple of weeks an incredible opportunity came

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 3>my way. I get to partner with a former a

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 3>former partner of mine or you know, when I haven't

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 3>worked with in a while. That is not just more money,

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 3>but so much better aligned. Like when I read the email,

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm grinning air from ear to ear.

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 3>I want to do this thing, you know, like I

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 3>would love to do this. So I love that. Yeah,

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 3>so thank you to Kat Williams and Leslie Jones making

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 3>me think about that. But yeah, check out her memoir

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm for sure we're going to get the audiobook

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<v Speaker 3>because you know it's gonna be hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that's a really good idea because yeah, some audiobooks

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to listen to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna bust a Oyoh.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we haven't broken in a while, but I'm like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna boost. Uh well, yes, so I but you

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>can't tell now because you know, I beat my face slightly,

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I've just broken out the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks and my face was like and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as a brownskin.

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Brown skiing girl, you break out all of a sudden.

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>You have spots that like, like, you know, because because

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 1>we have more melanin, like the Scott spots are darker

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and last foot, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just was, literally, so maybe this is a

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<v Speaker 2>boosty breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really frustrated because, you know so much like

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I literally was like, oh, I've heard of all of

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>these like great tools and things that you can use

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<v Speaker 1>like skincare things for your skin. So actually I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Sephora today and was looking at this company called

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<v Speaker 1>Ola Henderson something like anyway, they have this brightening stick

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and every shade was tan, tanner, orange, tan, brownie tan.

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, and I remember the woman, bless her heart,

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, are these is there clear? I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even looking for brown. Yeah, And she was like no,

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it all comes to one color. I'm like, no,

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. And then so there was this orange one

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and I swashed it on my arm and she was like,

0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe if you blend it in. I'm like no, and

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have to. When I was really frustrated, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ugh, are there no products for like hyper

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<v Speaker 1>pigmentation and dark spots for like black skin. So as

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I stood in the Saphora. I googled best products for black.

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Skin and hyperpigmentation. Hyperpigmentation is like just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Darkness on dark skin basically, and I found this brand

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<v Speaker 1>and it seemed too good to be true. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like they had all the things, and I was like,

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it's called Cocoa Rose, and I was like, hmm, this

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>seems too good to be true. And I'm like, the

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 1>reason why it's too good to be true is because

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea it was made by a black woman,

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>because all of the things that I was having issue with.

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how does this person now? I know black

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>skin so well, and I was like, oh my gosh.

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>So I am so excited because so coke. Literally I

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<v Speaker 1>just ordered today. So the founder of Coco Rose Beauty,

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<v Speaker 1>her name is Charlo Coco Green.

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 2>She developed what they call.

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Like a k beauty brand, which is Korean beauty, and

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>so it's not back by science because great Korean beauty

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>brands are known to be backed by science, but created

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for like for k Korean beauty obviously is for

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Korean people and they have specific skin issues. But she's

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>made something specifically for black and brown women. She suffered

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>from actne Over for over twenty years and when I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, if you follow her or follow Cocoa Beauty

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:25.439
<v Speaker 1>on ig, it is hilarious. So I don't know how

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>many non brown or black people know this, but like

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.919
<v Speaker 1>I have dark ass armpits like every black woman.

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:33.439
<v Speaker 2>That's just it's just the thing.

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And then between your thighs right next to your coude gap,

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it gets dark there too, you know, and it's just

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, that's just there's extra melon in

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 1>under arm.

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Fortunia leg It's just that's how it goes.

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And she has like these like a magic stick that

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 1>helps with like ingrown hairs, that helps with like hyperpigmentation there.

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>It was just I could have wet when I say

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>wept all.

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>The things, all the challenge that I face as a

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>black woman when it comes to skin, because usually my

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>skin is fine, but every once in a while it

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>is not. It was like, here's a black woman that

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.479
<v Speaker 1>clearly is like these are black women's issues, and plus,

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 1>you know who doesn't want to as a black woman.

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I want to rather support a black woman

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>on brand. I just didn't know that I have some things.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 3>That's all I can think of when I think it's

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 3>like a black and black community brand.

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't know.

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And also too, you have to understand that Rihanna is

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>not she is fair. She likes It's owned by an

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>lvmh like the largest, you know, luxury brand. So having

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like skincare created by black women for black women, just

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I just was really happy, like you know.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Cause I was like, I was like, who who owns this?

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Because they're saying all the right buzzwords what black ladies

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 1>told them about our issues and so yeah, so it's

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Coco c O c O Coco Rose Beauty.

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 2>They're not you know, sponsoring or anything.

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I just was so delighted first disgusted. That's my my

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>break that by the fact that there was like nothing,

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>nothing specifically for me, you know, because I like, we

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 1>tend to have sensitive skin in razor, bumps are more prevalent.

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.360
<v Speaker 1>There's certain things that you just you know that you

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>have to find a thing specifically for you, and we're

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 1>always having to make do. And I hate that they're

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 1>always having to make do and making an orange if

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I blended in work, I'm like, no, I want something for.

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Me in the beauty industry, I'm dark skinned, like that's yes,

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 3>as deep as it goes, which.

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Is my I brought like a bunch of stuff and

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, yeah, I can't wait. So when you

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>see me glowing, I mean, I'm going now just because

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you're not a little bit a beat, but when you

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>see me going for real without the beat, and you

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>can be like, oh, I'm like Cocoa beauty. Yeah, Coco

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.959
<v Speaker 1>Rose beauty, I said, Cocoa beauty. I'm like, Lord knows,

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll be.

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Messive like cocoa butter.

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>No Coco no see, okay, okay, Oh, Coco Rose Official

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is the Instagram account.

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead on you c c k O k O

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Coco Rose. Yeah official, Yep, got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I will check them out, Yeah, check them out, you know,

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>so I'll you know, as I start to use them,

0:47:58.280 --> 0:47:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you some update to see.

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Did I like?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I love the fact they have women

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>literally leg straight up in the air, rub it in

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>between their late like you already.

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Know you know you black here her marketing problem?

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Didn't I know I had, But I didn't know it

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 3>was a problem I could solve, so I just never

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 3>thought about it.

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 1>I know, like whatever, But I'm like, oh, you mean

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a magic stick I can roll here? Okay, Like

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I just yes, So I'm just excited to try it

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 1>because the before and NAFTA pictures on black and brown

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>skin just unmatched.

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>So she's got a bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, thanks for sharing, Tiff. All right, ba fam,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll review. We're gonna maybe we should start reviewing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people, let's do one right now? Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do one? You pick one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do one next week. I actually get little

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<v Speaker 3>all right, Tarak forty five hundred said, wherever you are

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<v Speaker 3>in your financial journey, you can definitely get some gems

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<v Speaker 3>out of this podcast. That was the most recent. Brown

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<v Speaker 3>EA two says, I love listening because it's so much

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<v Speaker 3>so real and personable. I appreciate their candidness and vulnerability.

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<v Speaker 3>They offer so much useful advice. Oh, I can keep going,

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<v Speaker 3>but those were just top two.

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<v Speaker 1>So until Friday, Bye bye, m