1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: I highly believe that I am no one to tell 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: another woman, another being what they can and cannot do 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: with their body, like who am I? 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: The bottom line is equality, and that's something that we 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: haven't gotten to yet, and that's why this issue is 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: so feels so large right now. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: Women are always fighting for all rights and it's time 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: for men to step up. 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to a very special episode of 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Cheeky's and Chill Today. I'm joined by a few guests 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: to talk about a very important topic, reproductive rights. Back 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: in June, the Supreme Court struck down Roe versus Weight. 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: It's a previous landmark decision that granted women access to 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: legal abortions for almost fifty years. 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: So let's get into it. Cheeky's and Chill. 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: With Me today is Patti Rodriguez, co host of the 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Mike Urdura podcast Out of the Shadows. 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: Hi, Patti, how are you? 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Hi? 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 3: Cheeky's thank you so much for having me here and 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: inviting me to talk about something that's really important for 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: our community, not just for all women, but for our community. 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: I agree, Thank you so much. I'm so Greatefu, I'm 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: so excited to hear what you have to say. We 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: also have Emily Stefan and her partner Jem Can I 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: call you Jem Yes Ernandez, their host of in our 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: own world. Welcome, ladies, how are you? 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: We are great, We're so honored to be here. We 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: are part of the Michael Duda iHeart family. We are women, 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: we are queer women, and that's an interesting perspective for 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: us to analyze this argument. 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 5: So thank you for inviting us. Thank you so much. 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 6: Cheeky's, We're so excited to be here. 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: And last, but not least, we have our lean son, 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: a development producer on the Microtura Network and Today's moderator. 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: She's also very knowledgeable on this topic. So, hi, Arlen, 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: how are you high? 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 7: Cheeky's High, Ladies, how's everybody doing? 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: We're good, awesome, I'm ready. 40 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 7: This is such an important topic and I'm so grateful 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 7: that you were able to lend your platform for us 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 7: to have this conversation. We know that reproductive justice, the 43 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 7: reproductive rights is an issue that disproportionately affects people from 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 7: the Black, Indigenous and from our community. We know that 45 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 7: this isn't just a woman's issue, that this is an 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 7: issue that affects trans people as well as non binary people, 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 7: and we've all had some time to process the Supreme 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 7: Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. So, without getting 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 7: too much into the nitty gritty, I'd love for this 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 7: conversation to be us highlighting voices from our community. So 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 7: let's kick things off with you, Cheeky's where were you 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 7: when you heard the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. 53 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 7: What were your initial thoughts and what were your initial feelings? 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god goodness. I was in Dominican Republic. Actually, 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: I was out there for my birthday, celebrating with some girlfriends, 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: and I heard the news and I was just like, 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: honestly flabbergasted. 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: I was upset. 59 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: I was like, what is happening in the world? We 60 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: were leaving in twenty twenty two? Like I automatically, I 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: posted something, reposted something, and of course I got some 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: backlash people in my dms, you know, saying and giving 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: me their opinions, and I was going to do this 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: whole TikTok. I actually still have it saved, and I 65 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: never posted it. It's crazy because I tried recording it 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: like three four times because it would cut me off. 67 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: And it's just there and I never posted it, so 68 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm going to take it 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: to my podcast because I think it is something that 70 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: not just because I'm an artist and I'm a singer 71 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: and I should just stay away from politics. I think 72 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: it's it is my god given right to speak about 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: my thoughts and how I feel and help other people, 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, And that's what I'm doing, you know. But 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: it was it was definitely disappointing for me. 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: Patty. 77 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 7: What about you? Where were you? What do you remember 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 7: from that day and what were you feeling? 79 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: You know? Interesting enough, I was actually landing into Washington, 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: d C. I was there for a convention and that 81 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: evening after we wrapped up, took an over to the 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 3: Supreme Court, and there was just so many feelings and 83 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: emotions there, so much anger. I think. I think as 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: as a country, we're just so discouraged by our government 85 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: and the the the fact that this is this is 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: their framing what's happening as this religious reason, when I 87 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: think the reality is not, that's not true. It's not 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 3: it's it's I feel that it's about control and and 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: that's what's heartbreaking and what I feel we're not really understanding. 90 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 7: We're definitely going to talk about how our culture and 91 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 7: religion intersegt. But before we do that, Emily Gemini, I'd 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 7: love to hear your thoughts. Where were you when you 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 7: hurt the news and what were your initial feelings. 94 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 6: I think we were together, weren't we when. 95 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: We found this out? 96 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't remember the exact time and place, 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: but what I do remember is the moment that I 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: realized that they're trying to make us feel that history 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: is further away than it is. We're still living in 100 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: a lifetime when women couldn't vote, when slavery was legal. 101 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: You know, we have to take a step back and 102 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: say yes, you know, at least in certain directions, we're 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: going in the right direction. However, we're still in a 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: world where we are discriminating against so many people that 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: live among us, and some of those people is gender sexuality, 106 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: like you mentioned. But the bottom line is equality and 107 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: that's something that we haven't gotten to yet. And that's 108 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: why this issue is so feels so large right now, 109 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: because we feel like we're in a bigger room than 110 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: we are. They used to put things in history books 111 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: in black and white that were in color to make 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: us feel like they were further away than they were. 113 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: We need to be on the front line still being 114 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: these voices and these platforms that you are offering us, 115 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: because that's how we're going to change is continuing the conversation. Before, 116 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: back in the day, you could even say the word 117 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: gay women and voting. 118 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 5: Ha ha. That's a joke. 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 6: You know. 120 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 2: Now we're able to talk about it. But we're still fighting. 121 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: So that's why we're here. That's why we're having the conversation. 122 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't remember when, but I every day remember how 123 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: important it is, and that's what sticks with me. But yeah, 124 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: you remember, I guess yeah, I. 125 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 6: Mean, I think there was one thing that I read 126 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 6: somewhere that it just stuck with me the whole day, 127 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 6: which was the daughters that are being born today are 128 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 6: being born with less rights than the country that I 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 6: was born into because I was lucky enough to be 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 6: born in America. And like Emily said, this is a 131 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 6: way bigger thing. And like you said, Patty, this is 132 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 6: much bigger than just the rights that uterus bearing individuals 133 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 6: to speak of, everyone that this affects are trying to protect. 134 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 6: This is about bodily autonomy. This is about anyone not 135 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 6: allowing or not allowing the government to have a say 136 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 6: on what we do with our bodies. That's our god 137 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 6: given right, and I think that more than anything. It 138 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 6: was disheartening to hear that news, but more fuel to 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 6: keep pushing forward for a better future. 140 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: For sure. 141 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 7: Patty, you touched on this a little bit about this 142 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 7: idea that our community. You know, we come from a 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 7: culture where religion is sort of deeply rooted in who 144 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 7: we are. Of course, not everyone comes from a religious background, 145 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 7: not everyone was raised in that in that way, but 146 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 7: it is part of who we are as a community. 147 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 7: So Cheeky's I'd love for you to kick this question 148 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 7: off as well. You're someone who has said you believe 149 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 7: in God, but you're more of a spiritual person. Now, 150 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 7: how do those two things intersect for you? Can someone 151 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 7: be religious and also be pro choice? 152 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: You know what, I think anyone can be whatever they want, 153 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I guess in speaking for myself, 154 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, growing up in a religious home, you know, 155 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: we were Christian, A lot of fear was instilled, a 156 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: lot of you know, if you don't do this, this 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: is gonna happen. 158 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: You're gonna go straight to Hell. 159 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: And for a long time I believed it, you know, 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: And thankfully I had an epiphany one day. And I 161 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: am definitely more spiritual than religious, and and I'm just 162 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: the type of person that respects everyone's decisions. I'm very 163 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: much live and let live. And I think that, yeah, 164 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you can be religious and be a 165 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: pro choice, but I highly doubted. I haven't seen someone. 166 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: And that's what upsets me the most about this whole 167 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: thing is that they keep throwing the Bible at me 168 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: or us and just throwing in what the Bible says 169 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: and religion, and it's so much it's not it's not 170 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: about that. It's so much more than that, you know. 171 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: But for sure, people in my family that I know, obviously, 172 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: they they think that I cannot say that I love 173 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: God and be okay with this is what they've they 174 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: have told me. 175 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I just have to say one incredible thing. 176 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: God and religion are two different things in my opinion, 177 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: because you can believe in God, you can believe in 178 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: the Almighty power, whatever connection you have with your God, right, 179 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: but religion as a construct is man made. Those books 180 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: were written by humans, passed down by people who were faulted, 181 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: who had issues themselves. So I believe in God, but religion, 182 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. And that doesn't mean that I'm not 183 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: somebody who has faith, you know, so right, that's where 184 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: I feel for me that that line. 185 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 7: Since you know, Patty, what about you? I know that 186 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,359 Speaker 7: you have some strong feelings about this, and it's a complicated. 187 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 7: It can be a complicated conversation to have, especially when 188 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 7: we're talking to people in our family who are very religious, 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 7: like Cheeky said, and even sometimes talking to the older generation. 190 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 7: How do those two things play out for you? Being 191 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 7: religious and being pro choice? 192 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: It is very complicated because I believe in God, I 193 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: believe in a higher power, I believe in life. But 194 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: I also I have a very hard time understanding the 195 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: the the motives behind all of this. If you if 196 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: you're these individuals who are making these decisions for us, 197 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: if they really believe and these babies, and you know 198 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: they they they would they would invest in resources to 199 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: ensure that every child survives and thrives. That to me 200 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: is what just it makes it angers me because if 201 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: it was really about the children, we would be investing 202 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: and creating a foundation for investing in ensuring that our 203 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: children are healthy, that they're not living in poverty, that 204 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: their parents and family have a foundation to be able 205 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: to raise their children in the way that we should 206 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: all be raised. And that's not happening in this country. 207 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: It's not happening. So if you can't just the minute 208 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: that a child's born, this government completely forgets about our children. 209 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: We have the lowest education rates in the entire world. 210 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 3: Our children are not provided with the resources that they 211 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: need to thrive in this country and in the world, 212 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: and that is what's heartbreaking. So while I believe in life, 213 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: and I believe that in God, in the Higher Power, 214 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: what I don't believe is the reasoning behind the control 215 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: that is being imposed on us. Don't come to me 216 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: with this, with this crap, because it really is. It 217 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: is it is. It is frustrating because they are they're 218 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: using this as a control mechanism. And I, like CHICKI said, 219 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: you decide, you have the right to choose what to do. 220 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: We have the right to choose what to do with 221 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: our bodies. And there's no other body that is being 222 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: control the way reproductive people's bodies are controlled. And if 223 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: we don't see that reality, then this is only the 224 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: beginning to just be just a bigger heartbreak and problems 225 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: in this country. 226 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 7: I also love that you mentioned that Go ahead Germany. 227 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 6: Yeah sorry, it just to me. We got me thinking, Patty, 228 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 6: it's really funny. How also, we are trying to solve 229 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 6: the problem of unwanted pregnancies by looking at women. But 230 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 6: last time I checked, women can't impregnate themselves. It is 231 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 6: a man who impregnates a woman, So why haven't we 232 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 6: focused the conversation to them? 233 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: And that's what you know. 234 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: I'm a mother, I'm a mother to two boys, and 235 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: I want, I am hoping that I raised my children, 236 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: my two boys, knowing that this is not just a 237 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: woman's problem. And I hope other parents listening feel the 238 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: same way too. And you know, we also see that 239 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: when it comes down to this, it's always us who 240 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: are the loudest. Women are always fighting for all rights, 241 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: and it's time for men to step up because this 242 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: is not just our problem. And as parents and mothers, 243 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: we have a responsibility to raise boys to know that 244 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: they're sharing the world with women and they're just as 245 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: much responsible for it than we are. And it's it's 246 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: enough that we're the only ones always fighting and it's 247 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,479 Speaker 3: it's heartbreaking and frustrating. 248 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 7: Geekuz I hear you. I want to have some strong 249 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 7: thoughts on that one. 250 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Speak yes, no, absolutely, I mean yes, it's not just 251 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: like like Jem said, you know, it's we don't impregnate ourselves, 252 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, so we shouldn't just be the only ones 253 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: held quote nuote accountable, you know. And I highly believe 254 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: that I am no one to tell another woman, another 255 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: being what they can and cannot do with their body. 256 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: Like who who am I? 257 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Like? That's am I gonna take care of the child? 258 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: Am I gonna say no, don't have an abortion? I'll 259 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: take care of it. Like That's where I'm like, Okay, 260 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: all these people that are voting and that are saying, okay, yes, 261 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: you know these women should not have abortions. Okay, well 262 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: are you gonna take care of them? Are you gonna 263 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: provide for these children? You know? Because then we have 264 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: an even bigger problem. Like if you have if you're 265 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: forced to have an unwanted child, there's gonna be a 266 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: resentment there from the parent to the child. The child 267 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: is gonna grow up upset and it's gonna cause so 268 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: many It's. 269 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: The worst you can do. It's the worst you can 270 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: do to a human being, bring him to a world 271 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: where there's no love or they feel like no support, wanted, 272 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: no support not just by the person birthing them, but 273 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: by the entire country and the government. There's absolutely zero 274 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: support for these children. 275 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: Not only that, speaking as a queer woman, you know, 276 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: I have been with men in my life. I've experienced 277 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: what it is to feel the responsibility of being a 278 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: woman in a sexual relationship, because that's another thing. When 279 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: you're with a male, I feel like oftentimes you feel like, oh, 280 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: it's my problem, Like if this happens to me, it's 281 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: on me, you know, I have to tell the guy 282 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: and figure it out, and it's my burden. Absolutely, not 283 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: like jem and we're just speaking about. However, at the 284 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: same time, you know, we have to acknowledge that as 285 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: queer women, when we decide to have a child, that 286 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: we have to plan that, we have to figure out 287 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: what we're going to do, how best to love that child, 288 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: how best to find somebody that needs love, and we 289 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: have the resources that we can give them. And so, 290 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: for example, there are so many children that perhaps somebody 291 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: doesn't have the resources or love or you know, mental stability, 292 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: which is so fair because mental health is a really 293 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: big thing, and if you're not in a mentally well place, 294 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: you should not be preparing people for this world, or 295 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: even after or. 296 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 6: Even after pregnancy postpadum depression of. 297 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: Which is again very real and an entire entire thing 298 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: that needs to be respected and talked about more because 299 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of shame about it. But anyway, so 300 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: when we make the decision to go down that path 301 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: to find our child, you know, then we are going 302 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: to love that child as if it is our own 303 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: and give it the life that it deserves, which is 304 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: why there are opportunities out there for people to be loved, 305 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: just like in nature, just like we see in nature. 306 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: You know, m hm. 307 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 7: Y'all talked about this a lot about this idea. How 308 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 7: if this was really about pro life and about the children, 309 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 7: then we would really be providing for those children after 310 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 7: they are born. And there's this element of economic control. 311 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 7: Latinas people of color are already paid at such a 312 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 7: lower rate than your white male person is in this country. 313 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 7: Can we talk about that a little bit about the 314 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 7: economic control and how this could potentially prevent women from 315 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 7: going to college, from moving out of their parents' house, 316 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 7: from becoming independent. I'd love to hear y'all's thoughts on that, Patty, 317 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 7: Can we start with you. 318 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, As a mother to two children, motherhood is the hardest, 319 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: especially as a parent trying to navigate a career. My 320 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: mom came to this country from Mexico and she had 321 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: three children, and I honestly don't know how she did it. 322 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: I would say, at the expense of her mental health. 323 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: And it shouldn't be that way from others. It needs 324 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: a village, and we no longer have that village. Our 325 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: ancestors had villages. It was a community that raised children. 326 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: You never it's you don't raise children alone. That's not 327 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: you don't do that. But somehow, in this culture, in 328 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: this country's culture, you're supposed to raise your children alone 329 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 3: at the expense of your mental health and your physical 330 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: health as well. And what happens is it sets women 331 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: back because again there's no support for childcare. You're not 332 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: able to It's a lot challenging for you to move 333 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: on into your career or as a mother, because you're 334 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: no longer living for yourself. You're living for a child 335 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: that needs special care, and not just for a few hours. 336 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: Today we're talking about twenty four hours a day, seven 337 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: days a week, and in this country we have zero support. 338 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: And me, as an entrepreneur, a writer, a producer, a creator, 339 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: I owe that to my village. I was able and 340 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: I had the privilege to be able to bring my 341 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: aunt from Mexico to help me care for my children 342 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: for the first years of their life. Without her, I 343 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't be sitting here with you all. I wouldn't have 344 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: the career that I have, the businesses that I have 345 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: because it takes a village. And it's really unfortunate that 346 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: women have to choose to and that's what this country 347 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: is having us to do, to choose, and we shouldn't 348 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: have to choose. We need to bring back our villages. 349 00:19:53,680 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: Women of privilege have their villages that don't talk about it, 350 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: but they pay for their villages. Yes, they have their 351 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: drivers that take their kids to school. They have housekeepers 352 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: that care for their homes, they have a nanny for 353 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: each child, they have tutoring classes, they have after school 354 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: programs that they can pay for. It takes a village 355 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 3: to raise children and our community doesn't have that. So 356 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: when you when the government implements this control on us, 357 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: it's only going to affect us, and no one's doing 358 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 3: anything about it, and we should be really angry. 359 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 7: Yes, Cheeks, what about you? You care for your siblings. 360 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 7: I know that you're not a mother yet, but you 361 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 7: are sort of the matriarch of your family right now. 362 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 7: Can you talk a little bit about those kind of 363 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 7: responsibilities and the dynamics of what it means to now 364 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 7: have this access taken from you? 365 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: Well, I mean growing up with a mother of a 366 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: five children, a single mother of five children. I hear 367 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: what Patti's saying, and I saw firsthand how difficult it was, 368 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: and because I was the eldest what I had to 369 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: do had me at fifteen. For her, it was especially 370 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: living at my grandparents' home, like abortion was absolutely not 371 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: a choice and it was expensive, so she didn't know 372 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: what to do. And I grew up seeing that, you know, 373 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: she says, I thought about it. 374 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: I didn't know. 375 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have you, but I had no choice, 376 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: And you know, it was difficult growing up and knowing 377 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: that obviously, but I'm glad. I'm glad she had me, 378 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, But I think she had my support, but 379 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: it was also very difficult on me because I had 380 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: to give up so many things in my childhood to 381 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: help my mom. I don't regret it, but that's just 382 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: my reality. And now that she's not here, I mean, 383 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: she taught me so much. I learned so much, and 384 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: and it's difficult, you know, it's difficult, and and it's 385 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I've had to help raise my siblings and I'm telling you, 386 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, tutoring. Tutoring is expensive, and I wish that 387 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: they would help us more with child care, you know 388 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: what I mean. Johnny was eleven years old when my 389 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: mom passed. 390 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: I didn't know what to do. 391 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out my life and I'm like, 392 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: how do I You know, it was just a lot, 393 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, especially even growing up. I mean, we weren't 394 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: born with a silver spoon in our mouth, you know, 395 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: and it was it was hard. 396 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: It was definitely hard. 397 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: So that's one thing that it's just it upsets me 398 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: and I just even if it is someone that had 399 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: consensual sex and she just doesn't want to have the 400 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: baby with this guy or whoever it may be, why 401 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: why force. 402 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 4: Someone, you know what I mean? 403 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: Or what if it's I just heard something like I 404 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: don't know, like two months ago, someone I believe a 405 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: little girl in Ohio I think she was ten years 406 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: old who was raped and she had to travel I 407 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: don't know where because she couldn't have an abortion. 408 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: Where she was from. 409 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: So I'm just like, what freaking world are we living in? 410 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: Like this is ridiculous to me. And just because I'm 411 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: pro choice doesn't mean i'm pro abortion. I'm not one 412 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: to say use abortion as birth control. I'm just saying, 413 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: don't tell me what I can do with my body, 414 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like don't don't that's not 415 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: it's not okay with me. It makes me feel very uncomfortable, 416 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: and it makes it worries me for my future children, 417 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, or like that, you know what I mean, 418 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: Like what what's going on? We have to stand up 419 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: and we have to have these hard conversations, and they're 420 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: going to be uncomfortable to some people, but I think 421 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: it's very important for for you know, future generations to come. 422 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 7: Emily and Jim, what about you and your perspective from 423 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 7: the queer community. I would love to get your thoughts 424 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 7: on it. And you're also gen zers. 425 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 5: Actually we're millennials. We are not. Okay, yes, there gen zers, 426 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 5: but you know millennials are better just saying. 427 00:23:53,880 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 6: Little I know, you know cheeky's I was thinking when 428 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 6: when I was listening to you speak, it's it's you're 429 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 6: absolutely right. Also makes me wonder what Coven's next. If 430 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 6: they were able to take this from us, what else 431 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 6: can they take? And that's the thing is that Roe v. 432 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 6: Wade was sort of an umbrella law where it did 433 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 6: discuss other parts of pregnancy. 434 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 5: How should I say this? 435 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 6: Pregnancy things like concept, pregnancy issues, thank you, health pregnancy 436 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 6: issues like contraceptives, the right to have a cesarean different 437 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 6: things that are then put into question. I mean, let's 438 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: not pretend like we didn't all probably hear Justice Clarence 439 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 6: Thomas mentioned gay marriage is something that. 440 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 5: We should look at. 441 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 6: So it's it's it's extremely wearisome, and I couldn't agree 442 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 6: with you more. It's not even about the valid truth 443 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 6: of the ten year old who had to go to 444 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 6: an obscene amount of length to have an abortion, or 445 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 6: the women who are at risk of dying themselves, or 446 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 6: the parents who are loving parents who are are excited 447 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 6: and have prepared for a child who unfortunately was not 448 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 6: able to develop their vital organs. All of these other 449 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 6: situations that are extra extremely valid where the life of 450 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 6: the child is put over the life of the mother. 451 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 6: But just the regular Susan or Tom, or the person 452 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: who just simply ended up pregnant, be it because of 453 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 6: something severe or something that occurred to them as terrible 454 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 6: as a sexual harassment or even rape, or simply I, 455 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 6: like you said, I met this person and this happened, 456 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 6: and I'm not ready for this in my life. And 457 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 6: why would I bring a child into a life that 458 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 6: I'm not prepared to raise them in. 459 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 5: So yeah, I. 460 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: Uh, cheeky's you said something that I want to be 461 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: fair and I'm going to be honest because you said, oh, well, 462 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't born with the silver spoon in 463 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: my mouth. I was when I was born, I wanted 464 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: for nothing. I had my village right because here's the 465 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: funny thing. My parents not only do they have that village, 466 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: that is the Latino culture, which is Auelas and Auelas 467 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: and I can call my mom right now and she'll 468 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 2: be here in ten minutes if I need her. And 469 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: also I had the ability of oh if I needed 470 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: to call a driver, which I never did, but I'm 471 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: saying I had the ability to, you know, like I 472 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: didn't want for anything, And that perspective to me says okay, 473 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: like you said, most of the uterus bearing human beings 474 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: who are having this experience, right, they are not the 475 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: ones making the decisions. The ones making the decisions are 476 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: the ones with the silver spoon, the one that can 477 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: travel to whatever city they want to acquire that doctor 478 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: and acquire that medical procedure. The women who are dying 479 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: or are not the people who are making the decisions. 480 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: We're going to have a loss of women that is 481 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: catastrophic as a result of You cannot stop people doing 482 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: what they need and want to do. What you're going 483 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: to do is stop them from getting adequate care to 484 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: do so it is not going to stop. It is 485 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: going to keep going. And then as well, as a 486 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: result of that, as a gay woman, you mentioned, well, 487 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: how do you feel as a gay woman? Jem said 488 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: something to me the other day that I was like, 489 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: I never even thought of that because as a woman, 490 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: I feel so passionately about my body and it's a 491 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: shame that I do. Because we are looked at in 492 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: such an objective way. However, as a gay woman, what 493 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: happens when I have a straight daughter? What happens when 494 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: I have a daughter who is out there in the world, 495 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: that is my tribe that I need to take care of, 496 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 2: who now, like Jem says, grew up in a world 497 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: with less rights than me. 498 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: That is ridiculous for what for. 499 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: Me to say in three months time that now her 500 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: and I can't get married if we want to, that 501 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: we're afraid that if I'm dying in the hospital room, 502 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: she can't come in to say goodbye like these are. 503 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: That's why you say, be loud, be proud, and our 504 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: culture supports those things because we are a tribe and 505 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: we've always operated that way, and there's no shame in that. 506 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 5: It's about balance. 507 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: That's all aout you mad, You've mentioned something very very 508 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: important that needs to be repeated. Abortions are not going 509 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 3: to end ever, they've been They've have been happening since 510 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: the beginning of time. So let's everyone listening to me 511 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 3: very clear about that. What's going to stop from what's 512 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 3: going to stop from happening is access to adequate health 513 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: for these women, save abortions, and that's what we need 514 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: to be protecting adequate health for these women. So whether 515 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: you're if you're pro life, you're pro adequate health. That's 516 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: what you should be fighting for. 517 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 518 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 7: Well, speaking on that, Patty, I'd love to get your thoughts. 519 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 7: I know that you're a mom, You're raising two boys. 520 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 7: How is this going to impact their lives? Other children's 521 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 7: lives who are growing up in this type of society 522 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 7: where we're limiting uh, reproductive justice, reproductive rights. I would 523 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 7: love to if you can share what kind of conversations 524 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 7: you've had with them, if you've had any conversations with 525 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 7: them so far. 526 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: My children are still very young there, there are still babies, 527 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: so I'm not there. I but what I want to 528 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: as as our mother is raise them to believe and 529 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: to understand that this is not just a woman's problem. 530 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: This is also their problem and they have to join 531 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: the fight as well when they're ready. And that's what 532 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: I hope that when they are ready to do that, 533 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: they also are as loud as we are. 534 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: M hmmm. 535 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, and what about you, cheeky is I know you've 536 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 7: shared your wishes that you hope to have children of 537 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 7: your own one day. Yeah, how are you? How are 538 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 7: you seeing this, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, How 539 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 7: is that going to impact you and your decisions? Uh, 540 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 7: some of the women here have talked about how it's 541 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 7: not even about abortion. What about it if it's a 542 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 7: health concern and you have to have a certain procedure. 543 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 7: I would love to to have your your thoughts on that, 544 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 7: because now I feel like it's a little scary to 545 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 7: be pregnant in general, because anything can happen. The mortality 546 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 7: rate of black women of people of color in this 547 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 7: country when it comes to pregnancy and going to the 548 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 7: hospital is so high. It's like, I think, the worst 549 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 7: in the world. The numbers here in the United States 550 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 7: are staggering. It feels like we're living on another planet. 551 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 7: So I'd love to get your thoughts on someone who's 552 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 7: thinking and considering about getting pregnant one day. 553 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 554 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'm in my late thirties. You know, I'm thirty seven, 555 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: and I've thought about it. I have endometriosis, i have 556 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: hormone issues, so I'm on hormone therapy and I'm not 557 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: on birth control right now, so there's a chance I 558 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: can get pregnant at any time. And there's also a 559 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: chance because I am taking to stosterone, you know, drops 560 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: that my baby, my unborn child can have you know, 561 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: is the health issues or what I'm looking for the 562 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: word birth defectations? Yeah, complications you know, and I'm well 563 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: aware of that. 564 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: You know. 565 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: It's just it's difficult because I'm like, Okay, well, what 566 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: if I do encounter that situation, Am I going to 567 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: have to or I can't? I can't have an abortion? 568 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: And if I do have one, am I going to be? 569 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 4: Is it going to be? Am I going to be? 570 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: You know? Obviously with some of my family members, it'll 571 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: be frowned upon. Am I a bad person? You know? 572 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 4: I've thought about that. 573 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, should I keep this child even if 574 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: it does have like birth defects? Now we have those 575 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: resources to see, to see, you know, and to have 576 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: that choice. But it makes you I shouldn't feel guilty, 577 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because I have wanted to wait, 578 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: because I did raise my siblings, because I do have 579 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 1: a career going on right now, and it just it 580 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: does it concerns me. 581 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: It Like I said, I've said the word upset. 582 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: It makes me very angry, but it does you know, 583 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: I think of my my sisters as well. You know, 584 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: it's just it's just really sad that this is our 585 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: reality right now. And I'm I'll say, madame uchosentimiento because 586 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: I personally, I've thought about it a lot. 587 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: Because of my age, I really have. 588 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 7: Well to share a little bit just based on your thoughts. 589 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 7: I'm married. My husband and I have been having the 590 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 7: conversations about trying to get pregnant for quite some time, 591 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 7: and we did get pregnant last year. I was four 592 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 7: months along and my doctor told me that due to 593 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 7: health issues, I would have to terminate my child. And 594 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 7: it was a child that we really really wanted, and 595 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 7: I got a second opinion about it. I did every 596 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 7: possible thing, you know, that we could have done in 597 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 7: that moment to make the best decision for ourselves, for 598 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 7: our family, with our doctors, and I still had to 599 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 7: terminate the child at four months. And so when I 600 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 7: heard the news, it was not only was it triggering, but. 601 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 5: Also I was scared as hell. 602 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 7: I was like, yes, we live in a state where 603 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 7: some of the rights are still protected, but if I 604 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 7: had been in any other state, I would have been prosecuted. 605 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 7: I would have been sent to jail. Potentially because I 606 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 7: was making any arm. 607 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, we're lifting you life. 608 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 7: I thank you, thank you very much. So I totally 609 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 7: understand that those health concerns that you're talking about, and 610 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 7: for for all the women out there who are who 611 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 7: are considering getting pregnant, that is a real concern. So 612 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 7: before we close out today, any any last thoughts that 613 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 7: anybody would like to share on a personal level or 614 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 7: just an overall thought on on today's. 615 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 5: Topic, I'll just say thank you so much. 616 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's these conversations are where we continue the fight, 617 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: you know, because fighting is not about violence, it's not 618 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: about this, it's trying to figure out how we can 619 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: build a bridge between you know, what people understand and 620 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: what they don't. 621 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 5: So thank you. 622 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: It was an honor for me, and I hope to 623 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: see a future where I'm not worried about my potential 624 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: child's rights. 625 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 5: So let's work towards that. Thank you so much. 626 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 6: It's really wonderful to be amongst other Latino women who 627 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 6: are moving this conversation forward, because the Latin community, you know, 628 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 6: tends to feel differently on this issue, so it's actually 629 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 6: really inspiring that we're all here kind of beating to 630 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 6: the same drum. 631 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. 632 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: It's lovely to see how intellectual and informed everyone is 633 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: and help passionate more than anything. So I'm so grateful 634 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: that I was able to have this conversation with you guys. Arlene, 635 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Patty and Emily, like jem you guys, 636 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: honestly thank you and everyone. You guys can binge the 637 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: entire season of Out of the Shadows. Now, Patty, do 638 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: you want to tell us what the podcast is about 639 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: real quick? 640 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: Yes? So Out of the Shadows tells the moment in 641 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 3: history when President Ronald Reagan signed a bill that gave 642 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: over three million immigrants amnesty, essentially allowing uh them and 643 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 3: their children the opportunity to come out of the shadows 644 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: and work toward the American dream. And we are a 645 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 3: product of that children of eighty six. 646 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 4: I love that. Share your socials too, So everyone can 647 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: find you. 648 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: Well, you can go out of the show find me, 649 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: or you can go in our own world part of 650 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: the podcast network. 651 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 5: I love it. 652 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: Listen when we're not in our own nice with cheeky's. 653 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if we're not here, we're there. So 654 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: this is a fam bam, join the family, listen to 655 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: us love. 656 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: Beautiful. 657 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 4: Did you share your your your social on Yes. 658 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: You can find me on Instagram at Patti Rodriguez. 659 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 4: Yes, and Emily as become friends. Yes, Emily and Jim. 660 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: You guys, tell me a little bit about your podcast 661 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: and share socials please. 662 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: Oh man, So we have a space travel pod cast. 663 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: It's the cheapest space travel you'll ever do, because we 664 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: actually don't go to space, just in our minds. 665 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 5: Tell the I don't know that we're a couple. That 666 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 5: sounds fun. 667 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 6: It is fun. 668 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 5: It is fun. 669 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 6: That's a good word to describe the podcast. We kind 670 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 6: of take our ship anywhere that the wind blows to 671 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 6: talk about the things that are important to us, the 672 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 6: things that are going on in our lives. Introduce some 673 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 6: of the quirky members of our of our world surrounding us, 674 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 6: and yeah, you can find us anywhere. Really, you know, social. 675 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: Media is yeah, you can find us in our own 676 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: world pod on Instagram. Our mayansta is Emily Underscore Stefan 677 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: and gems is. 678 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: Oh La Geminy, which is oh, I love that It's 679 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: gemy perfect. No, thank you guys, Thank you guys again. 680 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this conversation. It is a heavy one, 681 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, the more that 682 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: we have these conversations be better for the world, and 683 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 1: we should really. 684 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: Be loud and proud. 685 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: So you guys, everyone that's listening, We have some abortion 686 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: resources for you in our show notes, so please check 687 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: those out. This episode will also be available on YouTube search, 688 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: makea podcast network and subscribe. 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