WEBVTT - PowHERful Women with Mona Scott- Young

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Can we is your girl to make a

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<v Speaker 1>d Mallory and it's your boy my son in general.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are your host of street politicians, the place

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<v Speaker 1>where the streets and politics meet. What's up? What's going on? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>We have a good show today. Women's History Month is

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<v Speaker 1>so big, big, big, big, big yeah. And there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's great things about celebrating women that I love, but

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<v Speaker 1>also we cannot forget to make sure we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges that women face as well, because people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>love the celebration, but they don't always like to look

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<v Speaker 1>at some of the like critical issues that's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>our society. And there's one thing that's happening right now

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm happy to be a supporter of, which is

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<v Speaker 1>this finding to maka Um documentary that Kevin hard Lamina. God,

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing. A woman who went missing in South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina many years ago didn't get enough attention. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, basically breaking down the story about what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to her. Erica Alexander, who we love, UH, narrates

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<v Speaker 1>the entire show. UM. And you know, black girls and

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<v Speaker 1>women going missing is a real serious problem in this country. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know the fact that it's this show

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<v Speaker 1>is being launched during Black History Month. I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to say Christmas, you see where my head is at,

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<v Speaker 1>but any of the Women's History Month, right it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is when it's happening right now. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is a testament to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>we can focus on the celebration International Women's Day, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was celebrating how amids and women are but there are

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<v Speaker 1>still really really serious challenges that particularly Black women and

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<v Speaker 1>girls face, and one of them is this abduction, trafficking,

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<v Speaker 1>and just people going missing in general. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure the onset that people watch Finding Tamika,

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<v Speaker 1>that they go and they listen, because I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>on audible, so you're not watching, you're listening, um to

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<v Speaker 1>Erica narrate a story about what happened to this young lady. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to make sure that people go

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to it. In fact, some folks have already

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<v Speaker 1>been telling me, including our partner Angelo Pinto, attorney Angelo Pinto,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's really really heavy and powerful. I gotta listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it. I've seen I've seen you posted, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a few people posted, and I didn't really know what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. I was dealing with a lot of different things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm definitely gon gonna listen to Yeah. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>know now you can't be you can't be left out.

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<v Speaker 1>You always want to be in. Then, so let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what else is happening, man. I mean, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>today we're we're going to be changing sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>format of our show as we start to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>with incredible people. Right now focusing on women, but there

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<v Speaker 1>will be many other folks to come along that we

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<v Speaker 1>want to sit down with and and really do more

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<v Speaker 1>of a sort of full form interview. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>often talk to people in these twenty thirty minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>it never feels like we got enough, Like we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>bring shine back. You know. There's so many people that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to sit with and talk more about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their full journey, and today we're doing it with an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible woman that I'm excited to talk to. Controversial, she is, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yet she is a friend. She's legendary for sure. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's other stuff happening in the world and we

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<v Speaker 1>can never, unfortunately, just enjoy one thing without having to

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<v Speaker 1>be backslaped by other stuff that's happening. And one one

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<v Speaker 1>thing for me is just watching the terra that is

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<v Speaker 1>associated with people calling the police on black folks. It's trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's so traumaful, just you know, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're getting into. Especially I think it's traumatizing, traumatized.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe I could invent trauma for because it's full

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<v Speaker 1>of trauma. You know, Jackson invented words. It's trauma forul

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<v Speaker 1>because you know. But you know, I'm glad we could laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the reality of the situation, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the whole Ryan Coogler fiasco, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>him walking into what is the Bank of America, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what. I think it's Bank of America

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<v Speaker 1>and requesting, like giving a letter of requesting that he

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<v Speaker 1>we have to withdraw twelve thousand dollars of his own

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<v Speaker 1>money right discreetly, because you know, he's Atlanta. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know somebody will knock him over his head, like he

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<v Speaker 1>don't want people to see it. So he hands the

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<v Speaker 1>letter and when you read it, they showed a letter

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<v Speaker 1>when you read it and said, hey, I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the keyword my account. Discreetly she said, gave him the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>He did all the necessary things, and she still felt

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<v Speaker 1>that there was something, you know, that that was weird

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<v Speaker 1>or sketchy about him. He didn't it didn't match up.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather than just going through the process, that said, let

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<v Speaker 1>me run his account and see that's the identification matched.

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<v Speaker 1>The name was doing the necessary things that you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do as a bank teller, you know. Unfortunately, she

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<v Speaker 1>was scared and decided to quote the police. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when you listen to the conversation, I heard the officers said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the dispatch basically said, well, he could just want to

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<v Speaker 1>be discreet, but you know, the officers because basically she

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<v Speaker 1>she was letting her know that I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>if he did anything that there was no way like

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<v Speaker 1>he could just want to be discreet, but if you want,

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<v Speaker 1>we have dispatch, we have officers there. And unfortunately, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when he approached him, he was dealing with levels of

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<v Speaker 1>trauma to where he had a panic attack. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he said he he asked him, please could remove my glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a panic attack, and I know that, so

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the first time that I was ever arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a panic It I literally fainted, like fainting.

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<v Speaker 1>They grabbed me, put handcuffed on, like, oh, so what

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<v Speaker 1>don't I being arrested for it? Like you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>they're throwing me and everything just started getting My heads

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<v Speaker 1>got light. I feending in the back of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Woke up probably about two minutes later. I really had

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<v Speaker 1>a panic attack. So I was really I put myself

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<v Speaker 1>in his position. I realized what he was going through.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Fortunate enough he didn't fall out, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know he was dealing with this anxiety that show was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you suck sweating, Everything starts getting blurry to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a harsh feeling. But here's the part that really

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<v Speaker 1>troubles me. Right, these are the people that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want us to defund. They wanted to give more money

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<v Speaker 1>to the post lease and whatever. So now you show

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<v Speaker 1>up and you're an officer, right, and and someone is

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<v Speaker 1>telling you this man gave me a note. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>read the note? Do you say, man, did you check

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<v Speaker 1>his account? Or you just arrest somebody just because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a black person, Because I have in my life and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have as well. Then places where white

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<v Speaker 1>folks are screaming yelling, fighting, hollering, acting, cutting up, acting

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<v Speaker 1>a complete fool. And yet when the police show up,

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<v Speaker 1>they will try to deescalate and figure out what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on before they just arrest white people. I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they do. But it comes to a black man,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody takes the time to say, hole on a second,

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<v Speaker 1>is the money in his account? Does the bank card

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<v Speaker 1>and the identification match? At some point? I wonder like

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<v Speaker 1>at one point it sounds like this woman was a

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<v Speaker 1>black girl, Okay, So I didn't know that that's verified, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's not really a racism thing. Although we

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<v Speaker 1>as even people of color, even black, we uphope we

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<v Speaker 1>can uphold racist white right, white supremacy, and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. But maybe it's just that people are stupid

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<v Speaker 1>even But the thing is this, why don't we give

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<v Speaker 1>our people grace and due diligence right? Why why we

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<v Speaker 1>look at why didn't she do that necessarily? Then this

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<v Speaker 1>is another black man I don't want to call. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me make sure before I call the police, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>behind this this wall. He can't get to me, has

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<v Speaker 1>a show me any weapon, He hasn't done anything to

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<v Speaker 1>threaten me. Maybe the way that he's addressing me, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little different. You might, I might feel a little

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But let me make sure before I

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<v Speaker 1>put the authorities on this man. Let me run his account,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me do the due diligence, Let me do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why don't we feel like that? Why because unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>every ethnic group outside of us feels like that they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do things to protect. They're gonna go above and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it would have been somebody, a white person

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<v Speaker 1>be like, come on, man, get out here for you

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<v Speaker 1>go to jail. But sometimes, but more more often than not,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched them protect each other. We just like, why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you say to yourself, then this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a black man. Let me just let me give him

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<v Speaker 1>a little grace. Let me say okay, let me run

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<v Speaker 1>this account, let me just go get my man, Just

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<v Speaker 1>say hey, let me run it. Why would the authorities

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<v Speaker 1>be the first line that you like? Sitting here cracking

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<v Speaker 1>up because I'm thinking about the video that was just

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<v Speaker 1>on social media a few days of like maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>week or so ago, where the person went to the

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<v Speaker 1>bank and I think she asked or they asked for

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<v Speaker 1>something and maybe gave a check or whatever, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the perse and tell her whatever to tell her said

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<v Speaker 1>it was's gonna work, and you jumped over the flexiglass

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<v Speaker 1>or when you say that she couldn't get over. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know because this person's going to you jumped over

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<v Speaker 1>the coundar and that was it and was back there like,

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<v Speaker 1>no today, y'all what I need? I think you try

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<v Speaker 1>to put the check in and they said she right,

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<v Speaker 1>so then money, and yo, I'm not gonna lie. While

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<v Speaker 1>I would never jump over the plexiglass and no one

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<v Speaker 1>else ever ever should do that. I've been in those

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<v Speaker 1>situations where I deposit a check and I need everything

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<v Speaker 1>actually need, and when they tell you that they're taking

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<v Speaker 1>an overdraft fee and this and that, and you're like what.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just laughing about that. The Ryan Coogler situation

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<v Speaker 1>is not funny. That trauma of being arrested, even when

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<v Speaker 1>I have been arrested, knowing that I'm about to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I will have all kinds of issues and

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<v Speaker 1>panic attacks and anxiety and all of that. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's not cool here. This man is trying to be discreet.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all. Unfortunately he's outside in the street in Atlanta. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he is like, yo, don't come over here with your money,

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<v Speaker 1>like with my money. Don't be don't win all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Go over there, get it together, and then give my

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<v Speaker 1>money so I can put it right here and go

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<v Speaker 1>by my business because these people will help me to

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<v Speaker 1>knock me over my head and I'm trying not to

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<v Speaker 1>get killed. But it's twelve thou dollars. And what makes

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<v Speaker 1>me so mad is the black people on the internet

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<v Speaker 1>that I see talking about. Oh well, why was he

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<v Speaker 1>taking twelve thousand. I was like, he might want to

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<v Speaker 1>go home and put it over his bed and lay

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<v Speaker 1>on it and eat yogurt. That's his money. He used

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. The next thing they said was, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you give a note to a teller, the note

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<v Speaker 1>is very clear, specific, very clear, specific my money. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to withdraw twelve thou dollars of my money

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<v Speaker 1>out of my account. This is not hard. And she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say that, just that. She never said out of

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<v Speaker 1>my account, never said that when she's speaking to the

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<v Speaker 1>dispatch it and you know, so we just got to

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<v Speaker 1>do better, man, we gotta do better. Shout out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my apologies for to cool. You know you should never

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<v Speaker 1>have had to go through that. But unfortunately, as black men,

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<v Speaker 1>we go through things that we should never have had

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<v Speaker 1>to go on through every day. Yeah, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it also keeps us understanding what the world is like. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So no matter how high you get, you gotta always

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<v Speaker 1>know that when you black, you just black. And what

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z saying, still niggat Still you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to ask you, why do you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>people on the internet? I just don't understand it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I have to ask myself the same question,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could just ask you today and put it

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<v Speaker 1>on you. Why do you talk to people on internet? You?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you post that the immage till bill passed

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<v Speaker 1>unanimously through the Senate and the whole Congress, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you posted it and then the people on your page

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<v Speaker 1>said you work for the Democrats and something because doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean anything, blah blah, and you going back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>with the troll because for me, right, it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>contradicted and it's stupid, right because for the last year

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<v Speaker 1>since Biden has been in office two years, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a little overd okay my brain, yeah, lit,

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I've been hearing everything about what he's not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this and that you told us to vote for him,

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<v Speaker 1>this and all of this, and one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>things they were saying that there was an Asian hate

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<v Speaker 1>bill that was passed and then nobody passed the MUTIL.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a million meals in my d M. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they won't give us this. We can't get the mutil,

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<v Speaker 1>but your president did this, and it's like this, ain't

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<v Speaker 1>this is the president man that we got. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, keeping did you keep talking about my president?

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<v Speaker 1>This ain't None of these people is my president. My

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<v Speaker 1>president is somebody completely different, you understand saying. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reality situation is everybody kept putting this mean you got

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<v Speaker 1>the Asian hate bill nobody passed in Matil. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say that Lenchion is a there's a hate crime.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've seen a thousand times. So when it

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<v Speaker 1>was passed, I thought it made sense to inform the

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<v Speaker 1>people was past. Oh you were planned you noticed, don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean nothing. Well, what y'all keep trying to compare it

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<v Speaker 1>to something if it don't mean nothing, But why y'all

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying it ain't passed? Telling me why they won't

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<v Speaker 1>pass it, and then when they passed it, it don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean nothing. You don't get it, I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Say something about I just want them to get that

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<v Speaker 1>I know it. You just say I knew that. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that. Don't matter what happened, you ain't gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>satisfied because you're looking for a problem for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>do get how it is, because like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>people said, listen, they're gonna say that there wasn't lynching

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<v Speaker 1>and they hung themselves. They're gonna always figure that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm trying to say is we have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the realities of what we live in, right And

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<v Speaker 1>when you said it before that you can't just pass

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<v Speaker 1>one lord to stop black people if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm trying to say. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>say things like that, they said, oh but they passed this.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say what they passed this, and you

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<v Speaker 1>said he passed this, and then you say it don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean nothing, then you know exactly what we say. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what we were trying to You were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say when you said it, like I know that, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>pass that. Now they're gonna they're gonna find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to sircumvented. So the reality and situation is that we

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<v Speaker 1>have to acknowledge the full scope of what we're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with in America, right, But at the same time, when

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<v Speaker 1>we see things that we can utilize, that we can

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<v Speaker 1>leverage to our manage, we have to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>do we leverage and we have to call them out

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<v Speaker 1>every time, Like when somebody is hung and we know

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lynching, we gotta and they try to

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<v Speaker 1>tell us somebody hung themselves. We gotta say, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that was lynching, and we gotta Now we have the

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<v Speaker 1>back end to be able to say we're gonna prove

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<v Speaker 1>it was mentioned, and then once we prove it, we

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<v Speaker 1>want you to che somebody exactly. So that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not saying that this is gonna stop them from

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything. We ain't nothing gonna they're gonna. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same ship to us for years, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how many laws we passed. But now what we know

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<v Speaker 1>is that we have legal backing, that we have foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>that we understand the games they play, We understand the

0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.800
<v Speaker 1>jargon that they keep running on us. So if we

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<v Speaker 1>understand that and we utilize our brains along with the

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<v Speaker 1>laws that they pass them, then we can get further

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<v Speaker 1>and further. It's a process, and that's what it is

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It's like, I don't think none of this

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<v Speaker 1>ship is gonna cha. I don't think the president gonna

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<v Speaker 1>change me. I don't think none of these politicians. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the laws that govern us was ever set

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<v Speaker 1>up to govern us properly. They're set up to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we stayed at a lower class. I understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not trying to tell you that no politician

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<v Speaker 1>or no law they passed is gonna change that reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I am saying is I'm going to hold

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<v Speaker 1>you accountable to the laws that you passed. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to hold you accountable, make sure that laws have passed

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<v Speaker 1>that that say that we're equal, even if we know

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't think we're equal, even though we're gonna're

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to circumvent that, I'm going to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you are held accountable. So now, I'm always fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for what's right, just whether it's a law or not,

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<v Speaker 1>because to me just doesn't have to do with laws.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right or wrong. I'm a fight for what's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But now what I know is right, is backed by law. Now,

0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.840
<v Speaker 1>we got all the things on our side, So we

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<v Speaker 1>just gotta stop fighting against each other and understand that

0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.479
<v Speaker 1>we all fight in the same wall. And sometimes you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a different strategy and you gotta go through the

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<v Speaker 1>back door and I gotta go through this way. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're all trying to get to the same place. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know where. I haven't had um an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to read everything about the MTIL bill and like what

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<v Speaker 1>was the final version that actually passed. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>will say is one, people have been working on that

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<v Speaker 1>bill for a long, long, long long time, and so

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<v Speaker 1>making having it passed is historic in nature. It took

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<v Speaker 1>way too long, but it did happen. Um. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that what we have to sort of keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and this goes for those people who are saying it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean much. Again, I haven't read the final version,

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<v Speaker 1>but what I do know is that the Asian Hate

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<v Speaker 1>Bill came with a lot of resources. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot behind it, money to protect the Asian community, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>mental health support for them and things like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I would assume that people who don't see all

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<v Speaker 1>of that about the Emmett till Bill may feel like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not the same, and that is a

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<v Speaker 1>very very important statement, and we should absolutely continue, to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, to fight to make sure that these things

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<v Speaker 1>are equitable across the board. And so I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, at the end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 1>is important to note that there have been some of us,

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<v Speaker 1>we marched UM from from Staten Island, New York all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to why Washington, d C. Talking about racial equity,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get um you know, racial justice bills passed

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess that was two thousand and fourteen. And

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<v Speaker 1>so for these things to happen now, it does mean

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<v Speaker 1>something because there have been people putting their lives on

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<v Speaker 1>the line for a long time to try to make

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<v Speaker 1>these things actually come to fruition in some way, shape

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<v Speaker 1>or form. Knowing that there again, it's still so much

0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.720
<v Speaker 1>work to be done. There's so much work to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just got to keep on work, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're talking about working today. We're talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>woman is an absolute boss. She is um. She comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Haitian parents. So you know, I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>a very true statement that people who come to this

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<v Speaker 1>country from other places really take advantage of what America

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<v Speaker 1>has to offer. And you know, this woman is an

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<v Speaker 1>example of that, coming from parents who who's started here

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<v Speaker 1>and then raised her. She was born in Manhattan. Some

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.879
<v Speaker 1>people somewhere online it keeps saying queens, but she actually

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.440
<v Speaker 1>was born in Manhattan, and so her parents, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>found the way, made sure that she um was successful.

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<v Speaker 1>And look at it. First of all, I didn't even

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.920
<v Speaker 1>know she is not a college graduate. Many times I've

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<v Speaker 1>sat in rooms, I'm thinking, this is a Harvard educated woman.

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<v Speaker 1>So that just goes to show you that that path

0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.320
<v Speaker 1>is not for everyone. But it doesn't mean that because

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't go to Harvard you can't be a major businesswoman.

0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.640
<v Speaker 1>She started her own and she has her own entertainment

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.080
<v Speaker 1>company now that's doing big things. But was the co

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 1>founder of Violator Management with artists that she helped to

0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 1>launch their careers, from nas to Missy Elliott, too jar

0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Rule to so many people that you know, just bust

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the rhyns um. And I'm really excited about this interview

0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.880
<v Speaker 1>today with the great your friend you have my friend

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<v Speaker 1>man I was. I had the pleasure of being signed

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<v Speaker 1>the violated records, you know, in which her and Chris

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Lady had worked together on and just watch him owner

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.399
<v Speaker 1>just evolved into what she is today, and just always

0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 1>knowing that she had that ability, like you know, the

0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.680
<v Speaker 1>way she was able to manage a case slow, just

0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.560
<v Speaker 1>seeing artists walk into offices every five minutes and her

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.920
<v Speaker 1>just having the same face. And I'm just sitting down

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.119
<v Speaker 1>and her giving that energy and working so hard for

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>artists and then you know, unfortunately being incarcerated and then

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:37.240
<v Speaker 1>coming home to watch her transform into the next level

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<v Speaker 1>of phase of her career as a producer, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just watching him, man, I am just honored to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to interview the great, great um, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the last thing that I would say what

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<v Speaker 1>makes Mona so special to me even though we now

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:59.359
<v Speaker 1>have our own relationship, but watching her, uh, you know,

0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>give Andy a platform and knowing that Yandy worked for

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<v Speaker 1>her at a time when she was just like, you know,

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 1>being an assistant in the office and now Yandy is

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 1>running multimillion dollar projects and campaigns and businesses. That's pretty

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>powerful as a legacy for any black woman to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to say, look around at the fruit of my labor.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited about talking to moment, Let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Monas got young. I have to say, you are my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>um and I am just so happy to have you here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that you and my son have history

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<v Speaker 1>that go we go wait wait wait wait wait wait

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<v Speaker 1>wait wait back to travel back through memory lane if

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<v Speaker 1>you will. But I'm just so happy you came to

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 1>sit down and talk with us today. I keep saying

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>when to calls and you just show up. You don't

0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.680
<v Speaker 1>question it, and same for you. What Bonas says, do

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<v Speaker 1>we you know? So my son, I don't know. Maybe

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 1>we start with you and talk with me. Start with

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<v Speaker 1>y man. I've had the pleasure of knowing this lady

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>for over two decades and just watching her evolution from

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<v Speaker 1>being a manager managing top artists in the world, just

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and actually not making them become top artists, not just

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>managing winning with top artists having so much instrumental you know,

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>influence in their careers, and just watching her mature this

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and what I because you know, people don't know exactly

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.159
<v Speaker 1>so I definitely because most people think Mona Scott just

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>started with love and hip hop, and I'm like, I

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know, Mona. I've been doing this in the trenches

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>and violated building on Barrackstreet, like you don't know, the

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>little the little building, and that we was all in

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the office and every artist was coming up there complaining,

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and Mona had to put out fires and I don't

0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 1>know that moment. Give them, give them the history. I

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:08.159
<v Speaker 1>think it started like what ninety five right probably I

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>was doing artists development. I met Chris Lydy. He was

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.679
<v Speaker 1>still over at dev Jam, like you said, on Verick Street,

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>managing what Russell and Leo at Rush and when he

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>got his deal over at dev Jam to do Violator records. Um,

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.199
<v Speaker 1>I was working at the time of the track masters,

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the producers, and they decided that they were going to

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>go their separate ways. And Chris was like, Yo, why

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>don't you just come over here and help me figure

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.360
<v Speaker 1>this out because I'm transitioning this entire company, and all

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 1>of those artists that were under Rush were open and

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>looking for management. I feel like I've told this story,

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know, we built a management company and over

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 1>the course of the years was so blessed to like

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>touch so many incredible careers missing. You know, I'm still

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>with job Rule, Foxy Brown, Warren Gy and I'm throwing

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 1>in the management with the record label because it was

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>one big entity exactly. Um, of course we worked a

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>little exactly, we worked with NAS And it's so funny

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>because Violator was like not so much a revolving door,

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>but almost like this incubator, this place that whether it

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 1>was for you know, a one off renegotiation, uh, you know,

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>branding opportunity, we touched people that we didn't even manage

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>on a day to day right, in some way, shape

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>or form, there was a deal to be made. If

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>there was, you know, a renegotiation to be had, we

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 1>somehow were involved. So it was just an amazing time.

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>It was a different time, and you're still doing that

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>now because even I call you and I'm like, yo,

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>like what do I say? How I in this room?

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I always say it's part of who I am. I

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>just can't take that, you know off, that had never

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 1>comes off. It's just I say, it's in my DNA. Right.

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Being a manager is almost like the primary directive. So

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>even as I moved into producing, I always say that

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the skill set I brought to the table, write

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>my ability to connect with not And when I say talent,

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't just mean like celebrity talent, right, because the

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>creators that I work with, the producers, the directors, the cameraman,

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>those are all talent in their own way. The buyers

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>that I deal with our talent. So the ability to

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>connect with people and to understand what makes them take

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes to get them to you know, step into

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>their own gifts. Right, that's all at the core of

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>being a manager, and it's what I bring to producing.

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>It's like that special sauces, that special sauce. So, like

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you said, you and Chris had created this, But how

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>did the affect the death of Chris affect you? Jesus?

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so crazy because that came at a

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>time where we had pretty much gone our separate ways, right.

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think I've talked about this too, you know,

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you you grow apart, and not necessarily that there's any

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of be if you just kind of move on

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>with life and every once in a while we'd see

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>each other. But I remember the week leading up to

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.119
<v Speaker 1>his death, all of a sudden, he was on the brain,

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like in a way that black woman. I've learned since,

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>do not underestimate, do not ignore, do not quiet that

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>voice when it's just inside you because and I'm getting goosebump,

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>says I'm talking about it. All of a sudden, it

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>was like Chris, Chris, Chris on the brain to the

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.199
<v Speaker 1>point where my husband will say two nights in a row.

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>In the middle of the night, I shot up out

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of bed and was like Chris. And he was like,

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna stop young and Chris's name in the night,

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, the hell was that? Because I'm

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>one of those people that when I go to sleep,

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm knocked out right don't really dream or actually don't

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 1>remember them the next day, and it was this very

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>vivid presence, and I called Lorie right out of the blue.

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I like, dug her number, I'm sorry, yeah, We're like

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Blie was Chris's like right hand for a very very

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>long time. And I was like, you know, Lorie House

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Chris and she was like, oh, Mona, I haven't talked

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to you forever. Why don't you just call him? I

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, I just want to know is he okay?

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>And he was actually on vacation. She was like, he's

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>on vacation. But it was just the fact that you know,

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>hadn't thought about him reached that I said, okay, well,

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you know when you talk to him, just I'm I

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>called and I was checking him. I will always regret

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>never picking up the phone and calling him. Almost a

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of days later, she calls me the phone, you know, rings,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it's LORI. I pick up. It's a long story. I

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>don't even if you have time, you guys can add it.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>This long story because I haven't told it in some time.

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>But I hadn't been going out into the field anymore

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>at that point. Right show had been up and running,

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>got a whole team. Very rarely I've go out into

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the field for a big scene. Yandy had just moved.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was still the Bronx or something right Riverdale.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>So I said, oh, I'm going. I'm gonna go because

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the new crib yet. Get in my car.

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>We're headed out to Riverdale. Phone Rings, it's Lori. I

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>picked up the phone. She's crying hysterically right and she's screaming.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is it? What is it? What is it?

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>She says, Chris, you know was that was the first

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>thing she said. Chris was killed. So I was like,

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>what what do you mean. She's like, he got shot.

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>He got shot. I'm like, wait, was he killed or

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>was he shot? And she's hysterical and I'm trying to

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>make heads or tails. But long story short, Literally, when

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I said where where did this happen? And she told

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>me where it was, I was five minutes away, five

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>minutes away, somebody who never even goes into the field,

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>so was one of the first people who arrived at

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that house. So there's a whole you know thing there.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>But the point is when you asked me, how did

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it affect me? Interestingly enough, it's strengthened my sense of intuition,

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.479
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I'm saying? And that is when

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you think about what is the gift that I took

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>away from this tragedy, It's like it almost and you know,

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>allowed me to trust myself more. We're in that moment

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>feeling that, having that connection, you know, my gut screaming

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>at me and me quelling it. That's what I've taken

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>away from that. That's how it's a you know this

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to get too far off topic

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>because we really do have so much we want to cover,

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>but that intuition question is something that I challenge myself

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>with all the time, how do you lean into your

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>intuition as a woman, especially right in any industry, because

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes after I have talked myself out of something exactly

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>what I was, it happens. What is that like? So this,

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>this experience you think, was one of the things that

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>set you on like a firm path. It set me

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on the path of trusting myself more, trusting my gut,

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>listening to my gut, listening to myself. And that's been

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a process, right because if I think about, you know,

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>my life, there were so many things along the way

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that um led me to second guess myself, led me

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to not trust myself. Never having gone to college, never

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>having felt like I belonged in the room, like I

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>had anything to say that anybody wanted to hear. Right,

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>those things always led me to um second guess myself,

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>quiet my voice, not speak up when I knew I

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>should have right, not demanded things for myself that I

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>knew I had earned. Because again, that sense of should

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I do I you know, am I worthy of was

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>always something that plagued me, And it took a while

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.479
<v Speaker 1>for me to get to the point where I started

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>listening to myself and listening to my own voice, and

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a big part of that was accepting my gifts and

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>who I was, right, Like, there's this period you go

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>through in life where either you you know, accept like

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>this is who I am, this is why I'm here,

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>These are the gifts that I've been given, and is

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>my responsibility to use these gifts, not be scared of them,

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>not shy away from them, not dismiss them, step into them. Right.

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>So that that was an evolution for me of getting

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to that point where I recognized that, accepted that, exercise

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>that right and so you know, to to really get

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to a place where part of that was also understanding that,

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything works together. So when your gut is

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 1>telling you something, when that voice in the back of

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>your head is telling you something, when your entire being

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>is propelling you, stop resisting it. You know what I'm saying,

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>pay attention, listen. And whether it's your your subconscious god, whatever,

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>that power is, right, it exists for a reason, and

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>us fighting it a lot, I think alters the course

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of our destiny. You know, that's really do so tell

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>us the transition right from being this management to be

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>in this producer, Like, what was that process like, how

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>did you just say, you know what, I don't want

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to do this. I'm evolving into the name. It came

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>at a point in my life where I was unhappy. Right.

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of years building everyone else up

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and helping them do you know, what they wanted to do.

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't feel like I was fully utilizing my

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>own gifts. Right. It was always in service of which

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is great and which I know is you know, part

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>of what I bring to everything I do. But I

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like I was servicing myself. I didn't feel

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>like I was you know, really allowing my creativity, my

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>gifts to flourish, because I was so busy thinking about

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and taking care of and being there for everybody else.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>And I was miserable, right, But I wasn't serving myself.

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I was you know, unhappy and just getting up every

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>day and doing this thing. And it was there was

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>this duality to it, because like I loved seeing my

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>clients you know, prosper and I was so happy with

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>every win, but I wasn't doing it for myself. And

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I started thinking about, you know, what life could look

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like if I just said, let's just do something completely different,

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and um, I thought about what I wanted to do,

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>had no idea, and then I had an opportunity to

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>do a show with missy uh back in two thousand five,

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>and that was kind of the start of you know what,

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm not going to take the plunge for me,

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.439
<v Speaker 1>but let's take the company, let's take the clients. Let's

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>do something that allows me to exercise a different muscle,

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>which was moving them into like TV and films, because

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>prior to that it was squarely in music, and you know,

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I felt like here was an opportunity to do something different.

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I decided in two thousand and eight that I was

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.720
<v Speaker 1>going to make the move right and I was like, okay,

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>that's it. I like this thing. I've found my way

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>around this industry. I'm making the move. And then you know,

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I left. I left by later and started moaning me.

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>So it was, you know, it wasn't an abrupt thing,

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>but it started with me realizing that I was not

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>happy anymore. I'm just not happy with you, so tell me,

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>tell me as you know, so many people who are

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>listening our folks that had trying to figure it out,

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and in fact, in the last week there's been this

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>big uproar because Kim Kardashian made a statement that if

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>people want to be successful, get the funk up me,

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>say curse words. If I do the work, people get

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>mad about Well, they're mad at her. I feel like

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>what she's saying, it's true because there are a lot

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>of people who don't necessarily want to work for what

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>it is that they claim they want. Now there's one

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>side of it, because then there have been others who

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>have said, well, people do work every day, they go

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to work every day. I think it wasn't the message.

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the message. It's the message right exactly,

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think there's anybody who would say, don't

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>work hard for what you want and is just gonna

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>come to you magically. I think the idea. But you know,

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the one thing I will say, and I don't disagree

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>with you because I was just like, Okay, I get it,

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>but oh, Kim, they don't want to hear it from right.

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>They've worked to some extent, Yes, they've had certain things

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that allowed their path to, you know, maybe be a

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>lot easier than some of you know, some other folks

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>have experienced. But I cannot look at that family and

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>say they don't work on the ultimate grind ever the

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>right all the time, all the time. Because you think

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>about it, they could have sat back at multiple points

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>in their journeys and been like, Okay, we're good. We

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>did the Kardashian show, we good, we did you know

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever the first venture was, we good. But there's always

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 1>something and there's always, you know, a different venture that

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>they're embarking on. I think people just don't want to

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 1>hear it from them because there's a lot that comes

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>with being in their position. Right. People want to see

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you win and they build you up, and then the

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>minute that you're where you hope they expired for you

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to be, they're like, okay, time to tear you down.

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>You bring back the time to bring you back down.

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>So what does that? What does the day of being

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Mona look like like? What does that for people who

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>are like, Okay, get the funk up and work. So, now,

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>want to tell me what your day looks like so

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>people can figure out what's missing in their work day

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that may not be helping them get to their goal.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting question because what my day looks like

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>now right post pandemic is very different than what it

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>looked like before because there was a lot more balanced,

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot more interaction with the outside world.

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Like literally, it's been a blessing and a curse the

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>ability to kind of run a business from your home,

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 1>because it, you know, takes away the necessity for getting

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>out and moving about. So for me now it's probably unhealthy,

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>right I get up in the morning and from sun

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>up to sundown. And this is something that I've really

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>had to stop and check myself on because I've lost

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>perspective on, you know, that balance because now I'm in

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the home. Before I used to leave I come home,

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I used to talk about there was this period of

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>declining as I drove home, you know, so by the

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>time I walked through the door, there was a clear separation.

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Right for a lot of people, that separation is gone now,

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>And um, it's something that I've got to get a

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>lot better at because I don't want to find myself

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>back in that place where I'm unhappy. I love what

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I do now. I enjoy you know, the creative process.

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy the business. I enjoyed building you know, um,

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>what we're building with the company, and I have to

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>pay more attention to the fact that I've lost the

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>perspective and the balance that you know, you need to

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>be whole. So my day, now I get up, I'm

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>in front of that computer, I'm getting on those phones

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>because whether it's a day full of calls or a

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>day full of development, right, which is part of the

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>process that I really enjoy. It's work from minute I

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>get up to the minute I go to bed. Not

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>healthy people's day. So and you're married and I'm married

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>with Listen, those children are grown as people now, Okay,

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>no girl, No, my son, you know, he graduated. He's

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>been working for the last couple of years. Thank God

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>for the pandemic because it brought my baby home. So

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>he lives in the house, but he's constantly looking for

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a place. Um my daughter is now at you know,

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Clark Atlanta, and so she's out of the house and

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>staying in the dorms. But you know, we're quasi mt Nesters,

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>which which is what makes it bad as well, because

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 1>this should be grab sometimes sometimes he does, he does,

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, but he also understands that I'm also singularly focused.

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Right when I set my mind to getting something done,

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>is happening today, you know, And that's to be successful,

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>you have to understand your partner. You have to who

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>they are, and you have to you have to push

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>them in there. You have to support them within who

0:39:54.560 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they are' my guy, I do because you know, we

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>have fun together. You know, we laugh about the same things.

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Like he again, like you said, knows when it's like,

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, put that phone down in the middle of

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the day, He'll send me some stupid meme that I

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 1>have me cracking up in the middle of a zoom call.

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, because so we he knows me, and he

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>knows how to work with me. When I say work

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>with me, I mean work with who I am in totality,

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the crazy, the driven. You know everything about me. Do

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you think you're controlling especially for your kids? Like do

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you think you like um interestingly enough? And I controlling? Yes,

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>with my kids, not so much. You know, what we

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>have is a very open relationship. Was as good, right,

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm very upfront about yes, Like they have this

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>text chain where he's sending my son apartments and I'm like,

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I hate it here, why am I even? I'm like

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>leaving the chat. So they know the things about me,

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>but not overbearing because especially yeah, especially for my daughter.

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:07.720
<v Speaker 1>It was important that I be responsible for an independent, thinking,

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, open minded, assertive, confident woman. I knew the

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>world that I was sending her out into right. So

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>we had a great evolution with our relationship because I'll

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>tell you, we went through that whole phase where it

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I should have took a broomstick to

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you a long time ago. But now you know, we've

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>worked through that in a very open way. But no,

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.279
<v Speaker 1>my son. You know, I was always like my mama's boy,

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>but not over there. But we do that too. We've

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about this to our girls and boys.

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>We have raised the hell out of our girls and

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>love up on our boys. And then in the end

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like is it good or not? Eanla

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>van Zan told me one day that I needed to

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>stop mothering my son. She was like, you are doing

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>way too much. And she said at one point her

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>son went to prison and he told her that that

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>was the most important time in his life because he

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>got away from her and grew up. She had been

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>all onto and I'm thinking this, this is crazy, but

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I posted her conversation with me online and there was

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 1>so many black women to come and say, I think

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it too. Yeah, you know what it is.

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I was blessed fortunate that you know, Sean very present, right,

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 1>So yes, there were times where he'd be like, you're

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>being ridiculous, leave a malay, you know. So I had

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>that system of checks and balances. But yes, I could

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>see how that could have very easily happened if there

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that counterbalance, that presence that you know, balanced it out.

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 1>So it was okay for me to be the smothering

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 1>mom because he had the balance of Sean being like,

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what your mother just said. You're gonna

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>go out on these streets and figure this out, you know,

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>because she ain't gonna be around, absolutely absolutely, so let's

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>move into loving him. Okay, okay, so loving hip What

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>was the initie goal direction when you started it? Like,

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>what was the goal in direction? I mean, you know,

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the interesting thing is that wasn't a goal in direction

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>for love and hip hop per se in the beginning,

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>because it didn't start it as love and hip hop?

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Right Yandy, you guys know well you know was our sister, Yes,

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>well your sister, my daughter was with me for a

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>very long time coming right out of college and then

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>she'd gone off to you know, do her own thing

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and connected with Jim Jones. And when I started moaning me,

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Yandy came back into the full brought Jim as a

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>client and was like, there's this show that I've had

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>at Vicom that we've been trying to figure out a

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 1>v H one at the time, that we've been trying

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to figure out for the last couple of years. I

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>had met Jim Jim Ackerman, the executive, as I was

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>navigating getting the company up and running, and when I

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>went to him and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>he mentioned this show. He's like, yeah, we've been trying

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to figure this thing out, but you know, would love

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:04.720
<v Speaker 1>your involvement. Um. And there were also these two guys

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>who were just creatives. I believe Stephan and Toby were

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like cameraman and and sound die respectively, that were already

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>connected to the project. And um, when I came in,

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>there were several iterations. Right, first it was Jim and

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the Family Jones or Christie and the Family Jones. You know,

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 1>it was first the show about Jim Jones. Then it

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>was the show about Jim and his family, right, MoMA

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Jones and Chrissie before it became Love and hip Hop,

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And that was a result of first Jim didn't want

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to do a reality show. Then okay, it's great. His

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>mother's funny. The dynamic were Chrissie and and Mama Jones

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.280
<v Speaker 1>is funny. But we need to expand the cast, especially

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>because when you know you were watching TV, youre seeing

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Housewives of Atlanta and some of these other shows that

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>were ensemble female casts. So the love and hip hop

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 1>we know today was an evolution, right that started with

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 1>the Jim Jones show. Um, but what I did bring

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to that evolution was this concept that you know, Jim

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>is great and he's one faction of a world that

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and I one day may talk about who was their

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>true inspiration in my head because there were so many

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of the girlfriends and stuff that I got to know

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>through management, Right, I was the person like they'd be calling, like, yo,

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>she wilding out, she can't come out of the road, mona,

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>give her an excuse to go home? Oh damn, that

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 1>voice gave it away almost. But you know, there was

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot that I witnessed and a lot that I

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I had a lot, uh, a lot of

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:51.720
<v Speaker 1>show a lot. That's it right there. That was like, damn,

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you know this world people would not believe the stuff

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>that goes on, and getting to know these women and

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 1>then going like, because you know half the time, I'm

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, girl, it's never gonna happen. Um, it

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, here's an opportunity to not only let their

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>voices be heard, but always from the very beginning for me,

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it was give them an opportunity to take these lives

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're living anyway, that are crazy, larger than life, fascinating, right,

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and then get something out of it because a lot

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of times those relationships lasted for a long time and

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>when they were over, they were done. They were done,

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and all you got is a bunch of pictures and

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, ticket stubs like all access passes. So let's

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>go to that. You help them make money. It was

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>about help you make money, help you figure out whatever

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>it is. At the time, it wasn't the brand, but

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>now it's what is your brand? What do you want

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to represent? What do you want to do with your life? Right,

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.959
<v Speaker 1>whether it's you have this aspiration of being an artist

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>yourself or and I'll say it honestly, you really cannot

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 1>see the life that you're living objectively and may need

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to take a step back and watch it and then

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>decide what you want to do from there, Right, because

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>it was always important for me that would be of

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>judgment free zone. Nobody's here to tell you what you're doing,

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 1>the life you're living is right or wrong, which I'm

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 1>sure we'll take us to. What I know is inevitable

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>in this conversation, right, what people have to say about it,

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'll preface that by saying that it's always rubbed

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 1>me the wrong way. That there are people who want

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 1>to look at someone else's life, a life you've never lived, right,

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.439
<v Speaker 1>choose you have never been in, and sit from where

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting, and make past judgment. Well, but there is

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 1>this thought that our dirty laundry should not be aired out,

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:04.240
<v Speaker 1>especially sent Black folks on in life in general already

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>have enough that's out there in the world that has

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>created sort of negative ideas about who we are. And

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>so now to have a brand that is actually exposing

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>some of that negativity, I think that might be what

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>some folks felt like, let's just hide it or put

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.880
<v Speaker 1>it in Well, the purpose of the brand was not

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to expose negativity. Right, that's taking an entire sum of

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a group of people, the lives that they were actually living,

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the experiences that they actually had that led them to

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>these lives, and to sum it up and say, you're

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>are this entire racist, dirty laundry, and we do not

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 1>want to give you exposure. We do not You are

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the faction of this larger group that we are ashamed of,

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and we want to sweep you under the rug. Right.

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>It's to me that was never you know, what the

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.439
<v Speaker 1>show was intended to be. This show was like all

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 1>of these um different shows are showing different subcultures, different

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>areas of people's lives, different groups of people somewhere familiar

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>with some we've never seen before who knew they were

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>ice truckers, who knew they were. But there's there is

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 1>an industry that exists, and within that industry there are

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, the celebrities that we all know and love,

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and then the people that surround them. We're focusing on

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the women who love these men, Dave, These men make

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 1>sacrifices for this you know world, this genre are pursuing

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 1>their dreams. Very specific group of people. So if the

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 1>idea is you know what because we have not had

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:52.840
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity. We get it, these people exist, but let's

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>do a few more other kinds of shows about black people.

0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>And you all, wait, we don't want to shine a

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>light on your lives yet, right, If that was the

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.640
<v Speaker 1>thinking that I didn't get that memo right? My goal

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>was to tell stories. I was a storyteller, a producer,

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>content creator. I'm gonna tell stories I want to find.

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to tell them from a place that I

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 1>know first of all, Right, and here is a world

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that I navigated for twenties something years. I've seen these relationships,

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I've seen these women, I've seen you know what this

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>world is behind the glitz and clamor, and people would

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 1>be surprised, they'd have no idea. Were you in the

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>editing room all throughout this or were other people are

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of responsible for that? It was. There's a collective, right,

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 1>and the thing is that then there's the network. They

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:48.240
<v Speaker 1>are the ultimate you know, and all be all because

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately it wasn't a situation where I was shooting the

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>show myself, editing it myself, and then going to the network.

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.720
<v Speaker 1>That show was a million, you know, millions of dollars

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 1>per season. Um So there was a network and once

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you give them your cut, they have their edits and

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>they come back and there's a process. Um So. No,

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't the end all be all, But I also

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 1>um tried as much as I could, know, I tried

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>as much as I could to talk to the talent

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:25.279
<v Speaker 1>about being mindful about what they put on screen, right,

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 1>because at that point there's a body of work here

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that is going to be edited, right. So if there's

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>anything that you don't want it all right, then don't.

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this information until they give it to me. Right.

0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Half the stuff that ends up on the screen is

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 1>because they said it right. So it was always it

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 1>was always um funny to me when they'd be like,

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>well you made me say I'm like, I didn't even

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>know this thing until you said it. Um So they're there.

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, when I look at it in totality, right,

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:03.440
<v Speaker 1>there's always the positives and the negatives of every situation.

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 1>You weigh it, you take a look at it as

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 1>a whole. You know, when I look at the experience

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of love and hip hop and what it's represented, you know,

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>for the talent that has gone through the show and

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:21.239
<v Speaker 1>for you know, myself, of course, and for the opportunity

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 1>to open doors for other Black television, for there to

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:28.359
<v Speaker 1>be you know, a willingness by executives to allow other

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 1>shows to exist because there was such a massive audience.

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I would say that it was worth it. It was

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>worth it, and that was about the act the exact

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 1>same question, and you gave the answer before the answer,

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I knew where you were gone. So ultimately you feel

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>like it benefited the culture. There are a lot of

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>people who would say that it wasn't, but ultimately, when

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you look at ultimately with it accomplished based on opening

0:52:55.239 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>doors and exposing and giving people opportunities that it basically help,

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I would say that it definitely helped bring awareness, It

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.760
<v Speaker 1>helped open doors, It helped provide a platform. It helped

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 1>UH with financial empowerment, right because when I look at

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 1>our cast and I look at the things that they've

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 1>been able to accomplish. I remember the first conversation with Rashida,

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>who was like, you know, I've been on my grind

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to get my career up and running. Missy was

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the one who called me. It was like, yo, that

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>little show you got my girl Rashida. You know, I'd

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 1>love for you to meet with her and give her

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a shot. And now I look at restaurants and you know,

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 1>clothing stores. I love, you know, going through social media

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:45.879
<v Speaker 1>and page and I tell her all the time, I'm like, okay,

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 1>we see so you got that dress, those shoes. And

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>when I go to Atlanta sometimes I don't even pack stuff.

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I just like run to her get a couple of things.

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I texted her like where do you keep all? This

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:00.919
<v Speaker 1>is what I want to know. That's a whole another story,

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>but it's you know Yandy. Of course, remember Yandy coming

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to me with the gaping er to talking about I

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>can't do television? What are you? I'm like, trust me,

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying this, there's something here you

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:19.799
<v Speaker 1>and seeing her now so even man DC, watching him

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 1>blossom and the way that he is, he was never

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>like the error and the way we come from in

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the stream, you just don't get on TV, right, So

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 1>you watch him the first season like he probably didn't

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:37.240
<v Speaker 1>want to say a word. He barely. Now I'm watching

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 1>him absolutely A would do different differently. Well, let me

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:48.880
<v Speaker 1>put this question in this context first, because you mentioned

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 1>already and you know, this idea of people judging judgment.

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>So at one point, I remember even me coming into

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the space. I was pretty young, but I had this

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 1>idea of what women empowerment looked like in Loving hip

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.360
<v Speaker 1>hop totally rubbed me the wrong way, right, the fighting

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and all that I didn't know, Yandy, Now that I

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 1>have met these women and not just folks from love

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and hip hop, also excuse me, Jennifer Williams basketball wise,

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like these are my friends. They're such amazing people. Um,

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and so it changed my perspective. But at one point

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I was with the naysayers and you know, Mona Scott

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Young is doing wrong right? How did it feel to

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.759
<v Speaker 1>go through knowing that people didn't know you, but in

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 1>some spaces they were shunning you, like she shouldn't be

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>here because she's not empowering women. I mean, you know, shunning.

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It's more in my opinion, Judge, I think it's people who,

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like you said, had no idea, don't know me. And

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm human. So of course there was a period where

0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it bothered me because I knew the truth, and I

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 1>knew that that was not my intention. I knew, you know,

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the conversations that I had with the cast, and I

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>knew what the real, you know, intention was behind it.

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.719
<v Speaker 1>But part of that process for me of understanding who

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I am and what my mission was and trusting myself

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and trusting what my true intentions were, was about letting

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that go. Letting go this notion that I could change

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:29.359
<v Speaker 1>people's opinions or that it was my job to get

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:31.800
<v Speaker 1>them to understand and get them to see, because I

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>realized very quickly that they're don't think what they want

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to think, and nothing that I do or say is

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:40.319
<v Speaker 1>going to change that. And if they don't care enough

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>about getting to the truth to even reach out, want

0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation, you know, open up a dialogue,

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 1>then it's not my job to change It's not my responsibility. Um.

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And so I let that go. I let that go

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:57.160
<v Speaker 1>very very early on to the point where it didn't

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 1>bother me that people were judging me, because they were

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:03.439
<v Speaker 1>even judging the cast just as harshly. And I knew

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:07.319
<v Speaker 1>these people as well, and that's not who they were. UM.

0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And once I, you know, recognize that my husband just

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:13.959
<v Speaker 1>talking about the support used to do this funny thing where,

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody would say something mean on social media,

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:18.480
<v Speaker 1>he'd go to their page and he'd be like, look,

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the person. First of all, they n egg.

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Second of all, you know what I'm saying, this is

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 1>not even a real profile. And and you know, I

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>had to trust myself, trust who I know I was,

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and not allow myself to be defined by what people thought.

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's why, you know, it's a process mainly because

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 1>we're human and we have feelings and to deny that

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>is to be unrealistic with yourself, right. So that's why

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 1>my profile page, I'm like, if they don't know you personally,

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you can't take it personally. I can't be, you know,

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 1>concerned with what somebody's sitting at home with an opinion

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, has to say about what I know are

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 1>being tensions with everything that I do, because the reality

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 1>situation is most times none of those people would ever

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation exactly and they never said there like

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm never me personally. I've watched a lot of different

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 1>people say different things, and other people who had opinion

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 1>actually sat down and talk to you or or voice

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 1>their opinion to you, and they had platforms and they

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 1>will lot hip hop is this and that, and the

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>reality for me is when you look at loving hip

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>hop in its totality, it gives you different perspectives in

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 1>different spaces in everyone's life. And it might be a

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>fight here and tomorrow it might be hugging. We make up,

0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and then tomorrow we might start a business like this

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>is reality specially because even us, like with our work

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 1>sometimes and not just a work a lot, sometimes there's

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:50.959
<v Speaker 1>a fight, there are relationship problems, they are new people

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>that get together. There is me and Linda mad at

0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>each other, and then my son and I arguing. This

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 1>is real life. This is real life, and it's real

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:05.240
<v Speaker 1>life for this group of people who live in this

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 1>space and world where that is how they resolve conflict,

0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that is how they expressed themselves very passionately, not the

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 1>way I do, right, But I also didn't grow up

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 1>in the same way. I didn't have those same experiences

0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 1>that shaped me to be that person. So it's and

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and then when I look at social media and I

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 1>see some of the things that are happening, I'm like,

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:28.720
<v Speaker 1>my cameras aren't even here now, so blame me for

0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 1>this one? People? Do you know what I'm saying? How

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 1>did this happen? If it's all you know, made up

0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 1>for television. But again I will stand tentoes down that

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:43.720
<v Speaker 1>when I look at it in totality, right, how do

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you things that was birthed out of hip hop? So

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:56.440
<v Speaker 1>different individuals who become um entrepreneurs, who become big stars,

0:59:57.120 --> 1:00:00.080
<v Speaker 1>found their own space, like you know, for me, I

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 1>see it as a plus to the culture. A lot

1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of things that I didn't like. There was things that

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I wish didn't happen, but there was a lot more

1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:09.000
<v Speaker 1>things that I see to where people were able a

1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:12.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of I've had conversations with Scrappy and and I'm saying, yo,

1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 1>my career. You know what, Blue sent me a message

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of the day. I just want to say, thank you.

1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:21.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. And here's a genuine dude

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 1>who you told this is a genuine individual. This is

1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:26.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody that I could I talked to you, and I

1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:28.520
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of love for us. So just watching

1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:32.360
<v Speaker 1>those brothers being able to regenerate and recreate a career

1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:36.200
<v Speaker 1>from somebody just showing themselves being natural, finding love and

1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:38.720
<v Speaker 1>being aren't you like? It's something different. So I just

1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:41.480
<v Speaker 1>want to say I appreciate what if you've done. You

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I know it's a lot of backlash.

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>People don't always have something to say, and I had

1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to accept that they with the territory. I have to

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.680
<v Speaker 1>accept that that camp I mean, very different from your

1:00:50.800 --> 1:00:53.040
<v Speaker 1>journey to make about I know you've had to deal with,

1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:56.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, daggers and swords, but you

1:00:56.880 --> 1:00:58.640
<v Speaker 1>accept that as part of you. It is what it is.

1:00:58.760 --> 1:01:01.480
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I was out dinner with a girlfriend, uh

1:01:01.720 --> 1:01:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the other night, and she said, oh man, she's like,

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm fighting every day for you. She was like the

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:09.920
<v Speaker 1>things that people say checked out of a hotel the

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:12.479
<v Speaker 1>other day and the man behind the count that says

1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to me, man, you know that I've been fighting all

1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:18.560
<v Speaker 1>over I don't let people talk crazy about you. That

1:01:18.680 --> 1:01:22.200
<v Speaker 1>this person is in Alabama, my girlfriends, your we're talking

1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:25.520
<v Speaker 1>about all across the country. People telling me that they're

1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:27.560
<v Speaker 1>standing up for me. And what I had, what I

1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:30.600
<v Speaker 1>always try to hone in on, is that at least

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you're standing up for me. So I'm a focus on

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:36.680
<v Speaker 1>this interaction rather than the six people that you've had

1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to tell I didn't steal money. You know, I'm not

1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:44.120
<v Speaker 1>working for the Democrats. But think about what that would

1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:46.520
<v Speaker 1>do to you if you weren't sure and secure and

1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:49.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff and who you are. You know, if you spent

1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:52.320
<v Speaker 1>your time wondering about those six other people and allowed

1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:56.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself to get I've been there. I've been there. I

1:01:57.000 --> 1:02:01.520
<v Speaker 1>have stressed myself, especially during the Women's March, by worrying

1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:06.200
<v Speaker 1>about particularly what white folks we're saying about me, because

1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:09.520
<v Speaker 1>they had, in some ways the influence to be able

1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to impact my money because of how they felt, yes,

1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and what they thought of. So let's talk about new projects,

1:02:16.640 --> 1:02:18.720
<v Speaker 1>because you've got new stuff going on. I got a

1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:21.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of new stuff going on. I mean, the pandemic,

1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I keep saying, what has been a double edged sword

1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:28.280
<v Speaker 1>right as much as it you know, changed our lives completely,

1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that focus that I'm talking about that has me waking

1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:33.480
<v Speaker 1>up and focusing all day long has led to me

1:02:33.600 --> 1:02:36.520
<v Speaker 1>being able to expand the company, to move into areas

1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that I've been wanting to move into but may not

1:02:39.040 --> 1:02:41.680
<v Speaker 1>have stopped and paid attention to. You know, we've sold

1:02:41.720 --> 1:02:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a number of scripted projects, so I'm excited that we're

1:02:44.720 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 1>finally you know, moving into the scripted space um format

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<v Speaker 1>as well, you know, hopefully wanting to land a big,

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<v Speaker 1>shiny floor show that will go on for twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can retire. But you know, so it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a good time for me for growth within the company.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I need to figure out now and balance

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<v Speaker 1>out is how to continue to grow personally, how to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get back into the world. Because when I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I have been a hermit, what's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>project you're working on right now? Do you have something

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<v Speaker 1>we do? As as a matter of fact, we are

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<v Speaker 1>just starting production on Hip Hop Homicides, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was a project that we developed for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years and it started with you know, we were both

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<v Speaker 1>at lines Get at the time and we were having

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting. I love when they say, oh, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce you one of our clients and it's fifty cent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay. You know, so fifty was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should do a show by Debt Rammers, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of the evolution of how Hip Hop Homicides

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<v Speaker 1>came about. But the whole goal was again to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>continue to give us space for our stories to live

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<v Speaker 1>and and to get attention. And it's just really going

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<v Speaker 1>out there from a different perspective and examining, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those debts that we've all you know, experienced,

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing if there's any leads that have been left unturned,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, debunking stuff because I always thinking about the

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<v Speaker 1>people who get fingers pointed at them and then people

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<v Speaker 1>just move on and nobody ever goes back and clears

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<v Speaker 1>this ship up. So now you've ever tainted, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and really diving into there's a whole community of

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<v Speaker 1>web salutes, right, people who day and day out are

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<v Speaker 1>just communicating. There's a lot of leads that have come

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<v Speaker 1>from social media and and from what the social media

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<v Speaker 1>community is saying. So you know, if we can bring closure,

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<v Speaker 1>if we can a lot like you want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>like call attention, shine a spotlight on it, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the goal there. We've got Van Leathan, who is

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<v Speaker 1>our man on the street, you know, and Van is

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<v Speaker 1>great because he's so invested and so passionate on the subject.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we're you know, getting out of the gate

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<v Speaker 1>on that show. So we're excited about that. Yeah, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, brilliant when it comes together because fifty you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and his product I've challenged. We get into big debates

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<v Speaker 1>about my feelings very similar to love and hip hop stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said, well, why we need a show that is

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<v Speaker 1>not about people being drug deal is killing and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, Like, can we figure out what fifty can

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<v Speaker 1>be involved in? This is? What is the other show?

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<v Speaker 1>This is um which one he has? The show about

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<v Speaker 1>the man but again still the man he's got out

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<v Speaker 1>of jail. Yeah. I mean about the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 1>whenever we have these projectives, progressive shows and about positive

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<v Speaker 1>things we do, people people are not going. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the thing right and I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>this is the definitive reason why. But when people are

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<v Speaker 1>watching television or content of any kind, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>connect with the material. They want to see something that

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<v Speaker 1>they can connect with. Unfortunately, the plight of who we

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<v Speaker 1>are has led us to a place where we connect

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<v Speaker 1>with the hardships, We connect with those stories of violence

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<v Speaker 1>and trauma and you know what I'm saying. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like what we're talking about is an evolution that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>needs to happen, but there's so many things that need

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<v Speaker 1>to happen for us as people right as a collective

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<v Speaker 1>that will change our perspective. We are all just a

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<v Speaker 1>product of where we come from what we know our environments.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the marketing budgets that these major networks

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<v Speaker 1>are investing in projects is enough and you know, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of focused enough to really make a not a good show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. We don't gonna do that. It's not good

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<v Speaker 1>versus bad. But these other type of shows that might

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<v Speaker 1>be more inspirational, do we have the type of budgets

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<v Speaker 1>be important. Well, then now it's gone, but that's because

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<v Speaker 1>it's time has run out, and there will be other

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<v Speaker 1>shows that you know, come in its place. There's Abbott Elementary,

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<v Speaker 1>There's do you know what I'm saying? There are other

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<v Speaker 1>shows that are out there as well. That's how a

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<v Speaker 1>different experience. And we can't say. What I will say

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<v Speaker 1>about the shows that resonate for the audience and that

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<v Speaker 1>get the eyeballs is they opened the door, They paved

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<v Speaker 1>the way, because what they do is prove that there's

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<v Speaker 1>an audience for it. Right Without those shows that people

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<v Speaker 1>are tuning into because they connect with the material, you're

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna get to those other shows. Those individuals and

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurs who who bring those shows, now they in them

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<v Speaker 1>give you something different. They were like, well, I can

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation now about a different type of shows

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<v Speaker 1>because of the metrics that I can show for a

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<v Speaker 1>Love and HIPOs, right, I can have a seat at

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<v Speaker 1>the table to even have the conversation because of the

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<v Speaker 1>success of that show. Seat at the table. Black woman

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<v Speaker 1>out here been hustling and grinding and moving and shaking

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Now. Know with Love and Hip Hop,

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<v Speaker 1>there was there were partners that you had white men.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was too them. Of course, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the Viacom folks, lots of white people. What's it been

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<v Speaker 1>like navigating as a black woman in the space with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of white people trying to change your vision

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<v Speaker 1>or tugging and pulling for the challenging You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I know or what I think I know. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I I'd like to say, oh, I don't pay attention,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is something that I do try to apply

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<v Speaker 1>every day, right, Because I'm like, if I stopped to

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<v Speaker 1>be worried about this until then it starts to internalize,

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<v Speaker 1>I start to second guess and it takes me back

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<v Speaker 1>to that place. So I try to be very sure

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<v Speaker 1>and secure about what I know. But I would be

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<v Speaker 1>naive to say that it doesn't exist and that it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't there, and that I don't encounter it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that that will change for us. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>landscape that we have to navigate. But the way that

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<v Speaker 1>I try to navigate that landscape is by showing up

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<v Speaker 1>by And when I say showing up, I mean like

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<v Speaker 1>knowing my ship right, having my ship together, making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that I present in a way that is competitive so

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't can't and I con curse, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>I say it all the time like I can hold

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<v Speaker 1>my dick so that I can say I know that

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<v Speaker 1>I did the work and I put it in and

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<v Speaker 1>there is nothing about what I can deliver, what I

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<v Speaker 1>can execute that is less than that is subpar, that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't on the same level. Right, So that's the work

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<v Speaker 1>that I put in every day. But do I encounter

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<v Speaker 1>that still? Sure? Absolutely? I know that even in the

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<v Speaker 1>interaction with you know, my partners, right, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>natural tendency to gravitate to them that you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>think that they are the ones running the show. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband says that all the time, the white man's

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<v Speaker 1>eyes is colder. Right, But um, do I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>made stride? Sure? Because I'd like to say that my name,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, resonates in a different way now that I've

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<v Speaker 1>spent all of these years proving not myself, but proving

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<v Speaker 1>that I can get the job done, showing that I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have what it takes. So we did. We

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<v Speaker 1>got to end the show because no, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more ships were not over. But I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what somebody, a young Scott's before she became

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<v Speaker 1>on the Scott what would you say to her? You

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<v Speaker 1>see the commercial? Yes, yes, yes, commercially yes, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you say to you right right now? And it's sounds corny,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds cliche, But when I talk about those years,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't live with regret. You asked me a question earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think I ever answered it right. I

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<v Speaker 1>try not to live with regret. I try to think, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what can I and from this thing so that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this thing again. I don't like the result.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I, you know, affect a different end results?

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<v Speaker 1>So I try not to live with regret because then

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<v Speaker 1>that means, like, you know, I did something wrong. What

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<v Speaker 1>I would say to her is trust yourself, right, Because

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<v Speaker 1>it took a very long time for me to get

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<v Speaker 1>to that point. That's not cliche, that's real yourself, because

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<v Speaker 1>we we're not afforded the opportunity to see things play

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<v Speaker 1>out in you know, so that we had a roadmap

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<v Speaker 1>to follow where we see the mistakes that were made

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<v Speaker 1>and we see, you know, a lot of our lives

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<v Speaker 1>is figuring the ship out as we go along, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and not beating yourself up when something doesn't turn out

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<v Speaker 1>exactly as you intended, because that's waste of time. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't change that ship. And I spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time like I should have could have I should have done,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So I've tried to eradicate that from the

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<v Speaker 1>way that I think, because that's waste of time. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have you call tend people in the morning about

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<v Speaker 1>all your ideas or you like only need to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, maybe a husband. And when you say people

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<v Speaker 1>to some some folks that don't trust themselves, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they know. You want to have a team, You want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a brain trust because you want to surround

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with people who will keep you honest right about

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<v Speaker 1>whether your ship is right or whether it sucks, because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't I don't need a bunch of yes man.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say that like, like, challenge me right, poke

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<v Speaker 1>holes in my ship because I do it to myself

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<v Speaker 1>all day long, and and I want that system of

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<v Speaker 1>checks and balances in place at all times. But I

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<v Speaker 1>try to think things through in a way that I

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<v Speaker 1>can also lead my team right, so they don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm unsure, I'm faltering. I want their input. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to absorb it. I want to make it part

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<v Speaker 1>of my thought process. But I try to move in

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<v Speaker 1>a very sure footed way because anything less takes me

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<v Speaker 1>back to that place of second yessing myself and not

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<v Speaker 1>being clear. There's so many external factors that will have

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<v Speaker 1>you wondering if you know who the funk you are

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<v Speaker 1>every single day. I don't need to contribute to that,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I'm saying? Questions awesome, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question been debated. Sugar, Yeah, ye exactly, Salt and

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<v Speaker 1>be incmparable the amazing Mona Scott Young, thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much much. That was great than I enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really good. I mean, you know, she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like we probably again, let me not say.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say we could have talked for two hours,

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<v Speaker 1>but but we have evolved from twenty minute interviews to

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<v Speaker 1>being able to really sit down with somebody like Mona.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't cover twenty minutes of her life, simple, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't cover Yeah, you can't cover her life in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes. I thought it was really good. I love

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<v Speaker 1>I always love watching your interaction with people. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I talked about Shine all the time because

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of my favorite interviews of watching you with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that you grew up around, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just great to see that, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that Mona as a woman, none of

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<v Speaker 1>us like there will always be something that people will

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<v Speaker 1>say it's controversial, and certainly, as I listened to her

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<v Speaker 1>about the Love and Hip Hop brand, I still challenge

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<v Speaker 1>certain points of how the show evolved in what unfolded

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of Love and hip Hop. But when again,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing you guys were talking about, looking at

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<v Speaker 1>it in totality of what has happened with people's careers

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, what opportunities for other individuals have been

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<v Speaker 1>sort of developed, I do see how I see what

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying to build and where there have been

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<v Speaker 1>benefits from it, And so I guess that's the same

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us. I feel the same way about myself.

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<v Speaker 1>We go out, we tell people, you know, vote for

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<v Speaker 1>vote against this this madman, Donald Trump, and they end

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<v Speaker 1>up voting for Joe Biden, which again and if it

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<v Speaker 1>was us, it would have been Bernie or Elizabeth Warren

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<v Speaker 1>for me. But nonetheless, we had what we had and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden was there, and then they don't. The administration

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really do what we need, and so it always

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<v Speaker 1>there's always a level of controversy built baked into anything

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<v Speaker 1>you do. I think, you know, just the interview, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just amazing, you know, just seeing to be

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<v Speaker 1>transparent and be able to explain certain things and and

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<v Speaker 1>dispel certain myths about who she is because I know

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<v Speaker 1>she is. She the beautiful person, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at the culture right. A lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>we have to look at what the culture is for me.

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<v Speaker 1>If if if I'm giving you a platform to be

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<v Speaker 1>who you are, you can't blame me for who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Right if I'm forcing you, I'm trying to push something

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<v Speaker 1>upon you, it's a different thing. Those are the people

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<v Speaker 1>that I feel a culture votres right for me. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a complete dynamic of to me commerical

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<v Speaker 1>just like it there's a complete dynamic of my song.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you if you get the my song that

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<v Speaker 1>is the Gangster and it woke right. Sometimes you might

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<v Speaker 1>see the gamester and somebody might think that shouldn't be shown,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's me in reality, right. So when you actually

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<v Speaker 1>see that part and you're shocked thinking that that part

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist, that you can come up to me and

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<v Speaker 1>you can put your hand on my face and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna beat you up and then say, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you's about peace. I am, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>protect me. So I don't want you to be confused

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<v Speaker 1>and think that this the conscious my song is the

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<v Speaker 1>only my song. So what happens with love and hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop is it gives you a you know, the full

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<v Speaker 1>picture of who these individuals are, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't want to see a full picture. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that you're this perfect person, right. They want

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<v Speaker 1>you to believe that most of the artists and people

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<v Speaker 1>you follow they don't have anything wrong with them, so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't never want you to see that part. And

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately that really exists. And I think and I think

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<v Speaker 1>and I think what the reality is what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>Love and Hip Hop is this show that those people

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<v Speaker 1>in full you know, in full context of who they were,

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<v Speaker 1>and people were mad. That why we got to see

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<v Speaker 1>because these people fight sometu But you do bring people,

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<v Speaker 1>They do bring people together knowing that there is tension

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<v Speaker 1>in certain situations so that they can get certain things

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the audience going. And I will say being

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<v Speaker 1>friends with a number of women who are on these

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<v Speaker 1>different shows, their perspective on whether or not not so

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<v Speaker 1>much that they were forced, but whether situations were created

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<v Speaker 1>is different from the way they moanent feels about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and also what you are saying. But but I have

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<v Speaker 1>never seen Pat poos and Remy right, So that's not

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<v Speaker 1>true because Remy has had some moments, is not to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but has had hermony. They've had moments to where you've

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<v Speaker 1>probably seen them arguing with people when there was disagreements

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<v Speaker 1>were everybody doesn't agree with things. I'm gonna say me

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<v Speaker 1>and you might have an argument, and that's part of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Right of course, we know that that it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be people swinging and whatever and right, and you

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<v Speaker 1>are right in real life. There are instances that happened

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<v Speaker 1>like that, They've happened to me, happened in my family,

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<v Speaker 1>have it could be tomorrow. They're all kinds of situations.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not trying to take that away. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I am saying though, is that with reality TV in general,

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<v Speaker 1>not just Loving hip Hop, but every single brand, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a way that you can create a dynamic that

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<v Speaker 1>you know already something's going to happen. So that's like me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have issues with a particular set of a group

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<v Speaker 1>of people in my family. I don't really go places

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<v Speaker 1>that they're gonna be at, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody kind of knows unless it's probably a funeral

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I'm not really gonna show up

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<v Speaker 1>at certain things where those individuals are. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for some drama, you put us in the same place.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand what I'm saying. So I'm not saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's forced because the situation existed before the camera's got there,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Mona's point. It's just revealing whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But the revelation of it can be harmful to people

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<v Speaker 1>just as much as it makes Because I think about yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about how people will say things like you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, I'll give you portion. For example, because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that they have now had this reality show,

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<v Speaker 1>you have people. And of course there was the moment

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<v Speaker 1>when her her aunt sat down and they had a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Aunt told her, with all of what you've got going on,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not ready to I read the legacy of their

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<v Speaker 1>her Josea Williams, which is her I guess her uncle.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, um, oh yeah, sorry, your grandfather. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm thinking about the aunt and whatever, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>her grandfather. Um, And I don't know if I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that, because I understand that real life is real life.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, just because we didn't have cameras

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<v Speaker 1>around to show you the fights that Josea Williams and

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<v Speaker 1>Dr King and all these other people conversations, arguments and

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<v Speaker 1>beefing that went on, it doesn't mean it wasn't there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be clear. Let's also be clear that infidelity and

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<v Speaker 1>all of those issues the same way that ship happens today,

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<v Speaker 1>it was happening at that time as well. It's well

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<v Speaker 1>documented people know, so let's let's just be clear. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>people marriages, all types of issues. Always has been the case,

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<v Speaker 1>but the cameras are there now. And so the question

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Mona is like, does she understand people who

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we don't need to expose war or of

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<v Speaker 1>the negative aspects of the black experience because it's already

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff out there. But nonetheless, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's good and bad with everything, and I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we said, I think it did more for the

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<v Speaker 1>coach when you look at all of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>evolved from it, and you look at they've moved past

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<v Speaker 1>some of those situations that you've seen, those fights, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>They way past that. Their business owners, they're inspirational, they're motivational.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you you've seen one part and you watch

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<v Speaker 1>them evolved, And I think that's what it is in

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<v Speaker 1>real life. The worst You're not judged by the worst

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<v Speaker 1>moment that they see if you want absolutely, And just

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<v Speaker 1>because I bought up Porsche, I will say that I

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<v Speaker 1>know her and her fiance and they are very happy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So there we have it. And with that said, that

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<v Speaker 1>brings us to the end of our show. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Mona Scott Young for that candid and real and

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<v Speaker 1>raw interview that she gave us. Shout out to everybody

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<v Speaker 1>tunes into our show. We appreciate you. We are number

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<v Speaker 1>one number. We're moving on up in the ring. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not get number one yet, so don't think that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to download and share and support, but we

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<v Speaker 1>are moving up in the rings. And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>slow rhyme, but I'm proud of what we've done because

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<v Speaker 1>it's real. Yeah, you know I'm saying it's real. So

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<v Speaker 1>once again, I'm not gonna always be right. Samika, Mary

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<v Speaker 1>is not gonna always be wrong, but we will both

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<v Speaker 1>always and I mean always, be more than it. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we own