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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this special week Trend edition,

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Speaker 1: first Week Trender of November. It's Monday, November sixth. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jack the right. There is Miles Gray.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep, yep. How you doing good? It's It's

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Speaker 2: week season three one two three one two three twelve.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Chicago. Hey there we go. Yep.

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Speaker 1: What how do the big cities get like all the

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Speaker 1: best area because is it because they were the first

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Speaker 1: ones to to the area code get to need them?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Two one three two one two is New York?

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Speaker 2: Two three is l A. There's in Chicago. Yeah, I don't,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. I've never really thought it'd

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Speaker 2: be like, man, that's a good area code. Man, I

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Speaker 2: get that, just feel it's like the first ones you

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Speaker 2: would come up with. Yah, you know, like much in

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Speaker 2: the same way, like like I'm I'm repping the eight

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Speaker 2: one eight, But it's not like because I'm like and

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Speaker 2: that ship is like the objectively a really good combo

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Speaker 2: of numbers. That's just the name of the area code.

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Speaker 2: So I'll just yell that out. I mean, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Let us know. If you are an

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Speaker 2: expert in area code distribution. I grew up enough.

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Speaker 1: I've won three in Dayton, Ohio, so shout out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have one three? What was it in Wheeling,

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Speaker 2: West Virginia. I don't I was.

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Speaker 1: You know, you were using the phone six, so using

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Speaker 1: the phone all that much?

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Speaker 2: But all right, all right.

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Speaker 1: I also I feel like that was at a time

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Speaker 1: when everybody I knew was close enough that you never

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Speaker 1: had to know the area code.

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Speaker 2: You know, you just had to holler out your window.

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Speaker 2: Huh exactly. I get it.

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Speaker 1: I go down into the gulch, down into the holler.

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Speaker 1: Why they call it that, man, it's the hollow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. All right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Well, we're going to get into some of the

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Speaker 1: things that are happening. I believe Donald Trump is on

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Speaker 1: the on the stand as we're recording this.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. We'll talk about all sorts of

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Speaker 2: bad news, all manners of news, good and bad and

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Speaker 2: in between. But before we get to any of that,

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Speaker 2: we do like to.

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Speaker 1: Let our guests get to know us a little bit

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Speaker 1: better and tell them what we're guests, but our listeners.

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Speaker 2: So I like that maybe I should start you are

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Speaker 2: our guests here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I should start with my overrated, because I

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Speaker 1: think it'll explain why words are being misplaced and substituted.

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Speaker 1: My overrated is getting that extra hour of sleep, the fallback. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we get to sleep in tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: This is.

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Speaker 1: You know, it gets me every time it lures me in.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, well, get an extra hour this weekend.

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Speaker 1: All my problems are over. But this all over only

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Speaker 1: true for people who wake up to an alarm clock,

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Speaker 1: which has not been true of me for close to

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Speaker 1: a decade. Certainly hasn't been true uh since my kids

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Speaker 1: have been around. And my kids just wake up when

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Speaker 1: their bodies tell them to, and now their bodies tell

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Speaker 1: them to wake up at five am instead of six am. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there you are, dad, Dad, they're your asses.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck? Yeah? Did you do the thing where

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Speaker 2: you you you went to bed later on Saturday night

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Speaker 2: because you like, we get that hour full well knowing

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Speaker 2: you're not getting a fucking extra hour. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: we did do that a little bit. I did that too. Yeah, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I even I'm trying to think too,

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Speaker 2: Like last year, even before the baby was born, like

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Speaker 2: as I got older, like my fucking Circadian Like they're

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Speaker 2: just like it just works, like it's just like, yeah, bro,

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Speaker 2: you're up, like you're sorry. I don't care if it's

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Speaker 2: as six or and you have three extra hours, like

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Speaker 1: Sorry to tell you this, but you're up for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the morning. And then like anytime I try

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Speaker 1: just like anxiety hour, you know, it's just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just the fucking up dude, you want to leave

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Speaker 2: your kids? Man? Yeah, maybe why do what I should do?

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Speaker 1: I should check Twitter in bed, maybe that'll give me

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Speaker 1: some good ideas.

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Speaker 2: And instead it's just yeah.

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Speaker 1: Don't I'm tired, not doing great from a mental health perspective,

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Speaker 1: but uh, it's Monday. It's time to make the donuts.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Time to make the donuts.

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Speaker 2: You know, fu fuck your life, It's time to make

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Speaker 2: the donuts. That's right. So my mother always said on

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Speaker 2: a Monday morning, overrated. Allow me to fucking put my

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Speaker 2: rabid sports fan cap on for a moment and just

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Speaker 2: say video refereeing technology is absolutely overrated. It's especially if

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Speaker 2: you don't fucking use it. Now. I'm talking about this

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Speaker 2: in this specifically about obviously in the context of my

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Speaker 2: beloved Arsenal Football club, but like soccer football has embraced

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Speaker 2: video technology to like help refs make on field decisions

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Speaker 2: because sometimes the ref can only look one way. People

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Speaker 2: y'all can't miss this kind of shit, or goal line

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Speaker 2: technology that says like did the ball fully cross the line?

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Speaker 2: Did it go out of bounds? Things like that that

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Speaker 2: would help adjudicate on field decisions. But like in over

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Speaker 2: the last this season, especially that just started in August,

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Speaker 2: there's been like weekly critical errors where the organization that

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Speaker 2: Definitely shouldn't have been a goal arm mad and I

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Speaker 2: know you guys lost because of that, but that that's

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Speaker 2: we missed that horrible foul that definitely should have been

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Speaker 2: that and just like you're getting apologies for like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: just sort of you know, up in arms right now

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Speaker 2: because over the weekend, like Arsenal's on the receiving and

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Speaker 2: Ino's some terrible fucking calls. Like I'm just gonna show

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Speaker 2: you when Jack you don't even have to see, like

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Speaker 2: with an elbow and the REP was just a no call,

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Speaker 2: and like their video assistant referee has helped made to

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Speaker 2: Mari is about hit throw an elbow boom right there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: now yeah, let's slow that down so you can see

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Speaker 2: from other not subtle at all, just take that shit

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Speaker 2: that's that's violent conduct. But there's like this there's a

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Speaker 2: objective eyes if you won't use them? Right? And yeah,

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Speaker 2: so thank you for that presentation.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'll stand up in a in a

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Speaker 1: room with with a pointer.

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Speaker 2: He's dressed fully in a suit. Yeah, I had never

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Speaker 2: no hat everything. It's just very replica of the suit

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Speaker 2: worn by Kevin Costner. N JFK.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you picked up on that subtle how are they

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Speaker 1: fucking up the like whether the ball has crossed the

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Speaker 2: Isn't that that feels like that's just straightforward? Yeah, things

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Speaker 2: Or they're like, I think that's that. That's that's a goal,

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Speaker 2: So they just look foolish at every end, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's just interesting to see how like technology is like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've noticed with basketball and football when sometimes it

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Speaker 1: It's it's really interesting that like the closer you look

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like what is out of bounds? And

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Speaker 2: and it lends itself to a lot of interesting debates.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, and even did we just talk about

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Speaker 2: the how like umpires are like we didn't actually get

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Speaker 1: Franke zone is just like completely uh subjective essentially, and

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Speaker 1: they're just like yeah, but like it's contitable. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought there was this like objective box

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, really get the robots in here.

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Speaker 1: Uh my underrated science fares. Oh I had heard tell

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just in the same way that he

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Speaker 2: Real and what for what?

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Speaker 2: I mean like look at it, look at it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously we provoked him, but like that's I feel like

436
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Speaker 2: probably another potential last ditch legal strategy is to try

437
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Speaker 2: and just get the judge to blow up, and then

438
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: how are we ever going to get a fair trial

439
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: with this dude responding to our provocations like this?

440
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know, but yeah, it's it's a judge,

441
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: like the judges determining what happens here. It's not a

442
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Speaker 1: jury trial, so he's not like out here proving a

443
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Speaker 1: point to a jury. He's like kind of sparring with

444
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Speaker 1: the guy who's ultimately going to make the decision here,

445
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Speaker 1: and I guess he's just trying to undermine the credibility

446
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Speaker 1: of that decision ultimately. But this was kind of the

447
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Speaker 1: first time that I was like, oh, yeah, none of

448
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: none of the stuff, Like when people are being like, wait,

449
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: so he'll be elected president and sentenced to jail time,

450
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: and it's like he's not gonna do like he will

451
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Speaker 1: flagrantly use his power and influence to avoid going to prison,

452
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Speaker 1: like it will just be a complete undermining of the

453
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Speaker 1: judicial system.

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Speaker 2: Like that's yeah, like this is we've already said to

455
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Speaker 2: like in you know, his judge, like one of his

456
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Speaker 2: lawyers was like, he has a secret Service, he can't

457
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Speaker 2: go to jail or whatever, like sort of making it

458
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Speaker 2: seem like the Secret Service would prevent him from like

459
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Speaker 2: being taken away to jail. It's more so like reconciling.

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Speaker 2: What do you do when someone has Secret Service protection

461
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: for life and then they have to go to jail. Yeah,

462
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: they do. They join the Nirtagno's gang prison gang to

463
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Speaker 2: part of his protection. Detail. I don't know, we don't know,

464
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Speaker 2: but yeah, those that's the White House arrest exactly, Like

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Speaker 2: what the fuck is it? Yeah, the polling We'll get.

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Speaker 1: To that in a second, but yeah, I mean detail

467
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Speaker 1: that like that. There was a headline that was like

468
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Speaker 1: a New York Times article that was like a conviction

469
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Speaker 1: might sink Trump And then when you like look at

470
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Speaker 1: the numbers of this latest polling that is like dismal

471
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Speaker 1: for Biden. It's like a six percent swing. Six percent

472
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Speaker 1: of voters about like across all these poles are like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I might switch to Biden if Trump gets convicted, Like

474
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Speaker 1: six percent, it's like such a small number, and you're

475
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Speaker 1: assuming that they're actually going to stick there. It is,

476
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Speaker 1: got him, got his ass, fine, they don't give a fight.

477
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Speaker 2: He is what he does. They liked what he stands for.

478
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Speaker 2: He want they want him to bring on the Ethno state.

479
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: That's what they're fucking with. So again, like we said,

480
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Speaker 2: unless he becomes anti Ethno state, suddenly he's not going

481
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Speaker 2: to do ship. Yeah. Oh man, but we'll see, man,

482
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Speaker 2: we'll see, We'll see, we'll see. I mean it would

483
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: be interesting because at a certain point, I'm sure that

484
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Speaker 2: like the media, that even right wing media would try

485
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: and figure out a way like is this actually the

486
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: best thing? Like do we just try and have this

487
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: guy be like hey, man, we got to vote for him.

488
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: He's gonna go to jail, or be like this is

489
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Speaker 2: like what how are we going to fucking do anything? Yo?

490
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Speaker 2: But I don't think they care. We've seen where their

491
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Speaker 2: heads are at. So hey, one day at time, one

492
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Speaker 2: day at a time, one day.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be weird. Yeah, elsewhere, not in the US.

494
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Speaker 1: Just so much horrifying news coming out of Gaza.

495
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Speaker 2: But one truly.

496
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Speaker 1: Horrific absurdity from this weekend that is worth mentioning is

497
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Speaker 1: the Israeli Heritage Minister was asked in an interview about

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Speaker 1: a hypothetical nuclear option and responded, that's one way, which

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Speaker 1: even like mainstream Israeli broadcasters were like, wait, what the

500
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Speaker 1: fuck did you just say?

501
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Speaker 2: You said there's a nuclear option. There's one way to

502
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Speaker 2: I mean it could be. I mean it's to the

503
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Speaker 2: point where like even Nan Yaho's office like they like

504
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: they hooked him. They're like, Okay, now this guy's gone.

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Speaker 2: He didn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't need

506
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Speaker 2: to say anything any or anymore out loud. Yeah, And

507
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: then this dude tried to backpedal, yeah, and said his

508
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: comment was metaphorical, right, and he's like, it was metaphor.

509
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Speaker 2: I said metaphorically drop an atom bomb on me. And

510
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Speaker 2: I'm like, is this one of the few times that's

511
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Speaker 2: saying it was metaphorical as a defense is actually worse.

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Speaker 1: Right, because they are metaphorically already doing that in terms

513
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Speaker 1: of like the tonnage of explosions that are being dropped

514
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Speaker 1: on guys already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right exactly, Like what the twenty five hundred

516
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Speaker 2: sum ton or twenty five thousand tons of explosives that

517
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Speaker 2: have already been dropped equals two nuclear bombs? Yeah, And

518
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Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you saying? Like, I don't want

519
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: to literally use an atom bomb on innocent Palestinians, but

520
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Speaker 2: it's like a nice metaphor to describe how I desire

521
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: to kill massive amounts of innocent civilians. Yes, like what

522
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: the fuck?

523
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and discriminate, Yeah, it's wild.

524
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Speaker 2: And then then after that, like after this guy was suspended,

525
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: uh Netan Yahu's office is like saying, like, you know,

526
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Speaker 2: the IDF is quote operating in accordance with the highest

527
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Speaker 2: standards of international law. Holy shit, are you for real

528
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: right now? Because all these experts on international law are

529
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: saying that you guys are running completely a foul of

530
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: those norms. Yeah, but here we are. And then like,

531
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: you know, just sort of to bring the focus back

532
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: to the US, right, we're still seeing like retribution against

533
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Speaker 2: people that are vocally opposed to Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign,

534
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Speaker 2: Like two writers at the New York Times surprise, were

535
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Speaker 2: ousted for signing an open letter that condemned the ongoing

536
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Speaker 2: genocidal actions of the Israeli government. Yeah, and it's like

537
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 2: sort of against this backdrop, there was a really good

538
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Speaker 2: opinion piece in the Philadelphia in Choir actually that will

539
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: link to in the footnotes. That's kind of encapsulates a

540
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: lot of I feel like what we talk about on

541
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: this show about like the media is unable to contend

542
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: with anything that's happening right now, like at all, and

543
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: it's honestly costing us what's left of you know, this

544
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: so called quote unquote American democracy, whatever this is. But like,

545
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: if speaking truth to power is there is reason to

546
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: be forced to resign from a newspaper, we might as

547
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: well just let Trump move into the White House now, right,

548
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: Like mainstream media can barely say words like white supremacy

549
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: or call racist actions racist without carering in fear of

550
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: right wing backlash. And we Trump has made it clear

551
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: if when he is in power again, he will go

552
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: scorched earth on everything like the media, activist groups, district attorneys, judges,

553
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: And he hasn't hid the fact that he and his

554
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Speaker 2: allies are preparing like groups of craven lawyers to do

555
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Speaker 2: exactly that.

556
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Speaker 1: So you're like, my entire career has been is just

557
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: attacking anybody who opposes him in court, so exactly just

558
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: be a complete cluster fuck.

559
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: Like and currently, right, the media can't even bring itself

560
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: to use words like ethnic cleansing. And this is when

561
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: like human rights groups and experts in the very subject

562
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: are screaming at the top of their lungs that these

563
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: atrocities are at the very least war crimes, yes, if

564
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: not the textbook definition of ethnic cleansing. Right. And that's

565
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: but then you'll see, like you know again just sort

566
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: of like this back and forth, like the both sidesing

567
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 2: of it. Like, but sometimes they'll use the word like

568
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: the words of these human rights groups to paint like

569
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Speaker 2: an adversary of the US, and that's why they're bad

570
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: in sanctions and fighting. Right, But in this sense, let's

571
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: just completely ignore everything, right, So I don't know, I mean,

572
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: like the push Like, I don't know how the media

573
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: will push back against a full on fascist takeover of

574
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Speaker 2: the government if they can't even like use the right

575
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: words to describe things push back on anything. Right now,

576
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Speaker 2: The Washington Post wrote a puff piece on speaker Mike Johnson,

577
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Speaker 2: Like we told you this guy is from the cave

578
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: era of like Christian norms. Okay, Like it's not even

579
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Speaker 2: like no Q. He thinks the world is six thousand

580
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: years old. Yeah, and him and his son there was

581
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: like leaked audio about how him and his son used

582
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: that app Covenant Eyes to make sure nobody's.

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Speaker 1: They actually I saw that they like he talked about

584
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Speaker 1: how they kind of compare notes on like Nott and.

585
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Speaker 2: How they're doing great. We're both not just stroking it job.

586
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: We're doing great.

587
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Speaker 1: D just checking in hope you're good. I haven't jacked

588
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Speaker 1: off yet.

589
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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, I love your son. Don't check off, dad.

590
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: But like this piece in the Washington Post is called

591
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Speaker 2: quote howse speaker Mike Johnson's Louisiana hometown guided by faith

592
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Speaker 2: and family. Oh cool, this is wow. These guys are

593
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: Christo fascists. Yeah, but we're doing this whole thing of

594
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: like oh and it's like quaint and he's like he

595
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: doesn't like yell a lot, so it's okay. So I

596
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: just think it's really bad because I think the mainstream perspective,

597
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: especially in the US, is to just ignore everything that

598
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: is going wrong with the United States. Like that's why

599
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Biden's polls are in the shitter right now, and his

600
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: own advisors and other like you know, consultants like on

601
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: the big d democratic like campaign machine are saying shit like, oh,

602
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: the second term is in the bag already, Like, don't

603
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: worry about these poles. Don't worry about these poles. It's

604
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: in the fucking bag. Yeah, and it's you're just like

605
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: what planet are you all on?

606
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it really like I saw some of the

607
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: like crooked guys coming coming forward and being like, well, no,

608
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Speaker 1: I think I think there's a lot of work to do,

609
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: but like we just need to remind him of like

610
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: remind everybody of his accomplishments and stuff like that.

611
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Speaker 2: But just like totally ignoring or how scary the Trump

612
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: We got to remind people how scary the Trump presidency

613
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: is going to be. That is so cynical, right, you

614
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: know what, not to completely ignore people who are like

615
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I also see some people see

616
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 2: their vote as like a part of their like like

617
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: they're endorsing the morality of a candidate or something, you

618
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like that that's how they're tied

619
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: to things, but they don't see that happening. I just don't.

620
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Speaker 2: I really, It's just really scary, like whether or not,

621
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: you know, you want to vote for Biden, to think

622
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: that you can look at everything that's happening in the

623
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Speaker 2: United States and have the tone be like we're good, babe,

624
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: We're good guys. That is definitely not going to help

625
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: people who want Biden to have another term at all,

626
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just like so wild,

627
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's like they don't want to acknowledge

628
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: again that this country, like they we would rather put

629
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: the emphasis on like students that made a fundraiser for

630
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: their sick teacher rather than acknowledge how broken our healthcare

631
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: system is and how how underpaid the very people were

632
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: counting on to educate our kids are. Or they want

633
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: to ignore that we are a party to genocide right now,

634
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: or they want to ignore that we will let our

635
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: children die from gun violence and do fuck all about it,

636
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: and they want to ignore violent inequality. It's like they

637
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: just it feels like they don't want to get their

638
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 2: hands dirty with like talking about that shit. Yeah, but

639
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: the fact is most of us are already in the muck.

640
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: So just fucking acknowledge it rather than do this like

641
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: rhetorical gas lighting, because that's not this like us in

642
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: the bag talk is such a such a smack in

643
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: the face to people who really need help, who really

644
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: need things to change urgently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of like what because they're David Actel Rudd,

646
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Speaker 1: who is like one of Obama's like main campaign advisor people,

647
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Speaker 1: is like saying that Biden shouldn't run, but like the

648
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: Democratic Party in general, like who are they advocating instead

649
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: of Biden?

650
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Speaker 2: Because they're not. No one said anything, right, So it's just,

651
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: you know, other than that, it's like, you know, Cornell

652
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: West is running, is a third party person, and that

653
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: that's already gonna. That's already gonna. I don't know who

654
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: knows what attack mode they go into, because we've seen

655
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: what happens when progressives people who are to the left

656
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: of like a Democratic candidate, what happens there the media

657
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: treatment is there, Yeah, but I mean it's it's truly

658
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like I think a

659
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: lot of people are trying to figure out how are

660
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 2: they going to use their leverage as voters to try

661
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: and get something to work in the right way, and

662
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people feel very cynical right now. And

663
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: it doesn't help when you have like the people who

664
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Speaker 2: are like whispering into the president's E're like, don't worry

665
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: about it, don't worry about it, don't worry. These are

666
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: just haters. These are just haters. These are just haters.

667
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: But like, you know, I have a feeling in the

668
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: next month, you're going to see more and more pieces

669
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: being written up about is it bad for Biden right now?

670
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: You know, like progressive outlets have been saying that, yeah,

671
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: but I'm it's like going to get to the point where,

672
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: like with this polling now this has been like a

673
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: huge news piece where everyone's like, holy shit, like he's

674
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: leading in the five swing states that you.

675
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: Need down the barrel of another Trump presidency.

676
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Right and then and then but then you see like

677
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: a lot of the mainstream coverages to be like, well,

678
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: people just got to be reminded how bad it will

679
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: be with Trump, right. But yeah, I'm I'm sorry because

680
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: because the mass shootings went away since the Biden administration,

681
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: because like medical debt has like been completely erased because

682
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: of Joe Biden, And I get that there are things

683
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: that are improving. But that's the whole point of being

684
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: a voter and having a vote. They're courting your support.

685
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: So if you say I actually need these things and

686
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: you're ignored, that's not good. That's not a winning strategy.

687
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: I feel like their answer is going to ultimately be

688
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: to like replace Kamala Harris with somebody else on the ticket,

689
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, just blame it on her.

690
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: Basically, Oh my god, that would be so text book.

691
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: That was to the point that makes what the Democratic

692
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 2: Party is going to do. Yeah, just blame this woman

693
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: of color for this guy failures as a president or

694
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: perceived failures. I'm like, let's not let's not go. Let's

695
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 2: not see too far into the future non white yet. Okay,

696
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: we got a good news cycle out of better too. Yeah, yeah, all.

697
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: Right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back,

698
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: and we're back. We're back, all right. A couple lighter

699
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: bullshit stories. Homer Simpson will no longer strangle Bart Simpson.

700
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Speaker 2: H fucking Simpson's gone woke too, now, am I You're right?

701
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: The wokes I didn't realiz. Okay, it's great.

702
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: So the detail about the story, my mind, The thing

703
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: that blew my mind, was that like he was still

704
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: doing it in like the twenty nineteen twenty twenty season,

705
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Speaker 1: Like there's a part in the last time was a

706
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Speaker 1: Homer choking Bart and like Millhouse is there and like

707
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: cowering in fear. Oh no, yeah, it's it's uh, I

708
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: don't know. It's pretty crazy.

709
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: It never went away, which is kind of funny. I

710
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: think it's always been a thing people are like, is

711
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: that we're still doing that, like choking to the point

712
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: that your tongue is coming out of your mouth like

713
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: it does whenever they depict that in The Simpsons. Yeah,

714
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: but like now they on the show. Now they're like

715
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: saying it out loud that it's done.

716
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Speaker 1: Yeah. In a recent episode, someone compliments Homer's firm grip

717
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: and he responds, uh, see marg strangling the boy paid off,

718
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: and then ads, just kidding, I don't do that anymore.

719
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: Times have changed, oh, which which almost feels times have changed.

720
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Speaker 1: That's weird because time hasn't changed within the show. Yeah,

721
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: I have aged from being bar age too older than

722
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Speaker 1: Homer at the beginning of the show, right, isn't he

723
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: in his thirty Like he's like.

724
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

725
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and pop culture references have gone through like you know,

726
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: hundreds of cycles, multiple like seven presidential administrations, but the

727
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: characters within the show have remained the same age.

728
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: Oh okay, someone has actually pointed out he was thirty

729
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: four in the early episodes, thirty six in season four, Wow,

730
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: thirty eight, and thirty nine in season eight, and then

731
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: ten years later in season eighteen became forty. Okay, Oh,

732
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: so maybe he is aging a little bit, but at

733
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: a at a rate I can't even do the map,

734
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: Like I don't even understand the proportions based on per

735
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: season at this point. It's like you aged two years

736
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: in one season and then eight ten years. Are you

737
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: aged one year after ten seasons? Yeah?

738
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Speaker 1: How does it convert to like dog years? It feels

739
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: like the opposite of dog years.

740
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost like age at like point trees, Like if

741
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: Homer has aged six years from the early episodes up

742
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: to season eighteen, then it then I feel that I'm

743
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: really sorry. I think Maggie has some kind of she

744
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: might need some help, she might need to see it

745
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: for sure. And the other kid, she's still small, like

746
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: they're in the same grade essentially, right, Like it's not yeah,

747
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: they Bart has hit puberty or anything. But yeah, I

748
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

749
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a good fan theory about the purgatory

750
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: that they all exist inside, So hit us up Zychang

751
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: if you know of some good some good theory. But yeah,

752
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: so they've been struggling with this one for a while,

753
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: like all the way back in season twenty two, there

754
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: was an episode in which Paul Rudd tries to cure

755
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: Homer of his abusive ways, and it just like didn't work.

756
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: Cure Homer of cure them of their or Paul.

757
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: But it's caused, of course, people to jokingly say that

758
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: the Simpsons has gone woke, and then a lot of

759
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: other people ball saying the exact same thing but completely seriously, Yeah,

760
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: the Simpsons has gone woke. So yeah, it's funny because Simpsons.

761
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: Who, like real Simpsons fans are just being using the

762
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: sarcasm of like, I can't believe it, my Simpsons has

763
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: gone woke, And then other people were like you see

764
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: these takes on Twitter, like is I guess the Simpsons

765
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: are about to go broke, right because they've gone woke?

766
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: And then you're like, okay, cool American flag emojis in

767
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: your displaying name.

768
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there is a British Christmas commercial. I guess,

769
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Speaker 1: I guess this is like a tradition that, uh, where

770
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Speaker 1: are you familiar.

771
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: With Marks and Spencer? Oh mns?

772
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, So this is like the main department retailer,

773
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: department store.

774
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: And they've got it all. They've got Spencer, They've got

775
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: it all. They've got food, you can buy, clothing, you

776
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: can buy. I don't know why I became Trump. You

777
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: can buy like kids every school uniforms, like you know,

778
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: they don't they they got it, af they got it. Yeah.

779
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: So the ad and I guess, like around this time

780
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: their equivalent of the Mariah Carey you know viral video

781
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: where she is broken free from a block of ice

782
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: like Encino Man, like the these ads that announced the

783
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: beginning of Christmas, and uh this one. This year's Christmas

784
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: ad features stars like ted Lasso's Hannah Wattingham and Queer

785
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Eyes Tan France, ditching conventional Christmas trends like party hats

786
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: and gingerbread houses by like shredding and blow torching them.

787
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: They did not like pile drive Santa or anything like that,

788
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: but it felt like that's where it was headed.

789
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: But people are reacting, They're like, this is an abomination.

790
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: It's it's just interesting that they're able to like pull

791
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: It feels like a very calculated attempt to troll the

792
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: right wing on a thing that you know the right

793
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: will make a big deal about, but real people like

794
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: aren't don't give it yet.

795
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: Like the world don't you don't faint if you see

796
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: a Santa hat go into a wood chipper, right, And and.

797
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: The main thing that they're arguing against, like elf on

798
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: a shelf really takes a.

799
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: Beating in this one.

800
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, yeah there, which I think they're on

801
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: point with their feeling that people are tired of elf

802
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: on a shelf. And it's also like not one of

803
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: the old Christmas traditions the other ones that they go

804
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: after that I may maybe they are Christmas traditions in

805
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: the US, but I was not aware that they were. So, uh,

806
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: board games, I guess like, yeah, there's you know, you're

807
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: with families, so there's board games. But I never thought

808
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: of it as explicitly a Christmas tradition.

809
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: Charades, Oh yeah, I feel like I see that in

810
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: like in depictions of the holidays and like British dramas

811
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: I've seen okay, okay.

812
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: Party hats, the paper party hats I was familiar with,

813
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, and then Elf on a shelf come

814
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: comes in for it and gets.

815
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: And like what the whole thing is. Basically like I'm

816
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: guessing the thrust of the commercials, Like yeah, man, because

817
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty three and like we can do Christmas

818
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: all kinds of fucking ways. You don't have to play

819
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: charades with your aunt.

820
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's basically like these celebrities getting fed up with

821
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: these very specific traditions. It's kind of a mess, to

822
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: be honest with you, Like, it's just they're they're doing

823
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: the Christmas thing and then they just like decide to

824
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: light one of their Christmas decorations on fire, and it's

825
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: not clear like which ones they're saying are good.

826
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: And which ones they're saying are bad.

827
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Speaker 1: I think I think the point is like I like

828
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: this one and I don't like this one, and I

829
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: should be allowed to destroy the ones that I don't

830
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: like and be like kind of cranky and scoogy about

831
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: other people, right yeah.

832
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, I mean I feel like, just if

833
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: you want to do a commercial that speaks to like

834
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: the real spirit of Christmas. Just show how nobody actually

835
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: gives a fuck about Jesus, right, you know, and just

836
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: lean into that, Like me, I'm being nice cause I

837
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: want a kitchen knife, or like I want a Nintendo

838
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: the what. I don't know, it's just about having this crap. Yeah,

839
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, man, I don't know. Every just that's that's

840
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: the beauty of this, these weird ass holidays that are

841
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 2: like vaguely religious, that have just been taken over by consumerism.

842
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: It's like, just do whatever the fuck you want, man. Yeah,

843
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: do you have a Christmas holiday that you're ready to

844
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: see go in the woodchipper? A Christmas tradish? Sorry?

845
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Do you have a Christmas tradish that you're ready to

846
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: see go in the wood chipper?

847
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? Going to fucking church? Amen, brother, you know what

848
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean, get in the way of the Christmas gifts?

849
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: Thank you. But I opted out of that pretty quickly

850
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. I don't know. I mean, honestly,

851
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: I think it's That's what's so funny is I think

852
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: growing up in a non traditional household, I was never

853
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: forced to do anything traditional, so we always had our

854
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: own weird ways of doing shit. It was always like

855
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: this hybrid black Japanese Christmas. We would It's like there

856
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: would be like I go to my grandparents and I'll

857
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: get a healthy dose of Jesus over there, right, and

858
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: then bring it on home. And then you know, my

859
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: mom would have like we didn't have a tree, so

860
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: she put like lights on a fucking lamp that was

861
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: like really tall. Oh really yeah, because she's like, do

862
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: you want a treat? I'm like I always said, I

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Speaker 2: was like, is it presents? She's like, yeah, we'll have presents.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, then you can put that shit under a mannequin.

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Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck because for me, I just

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Speaker 2: caught right. I just cut right to the chase. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: give me gift. I don't know about no Nativity scene,

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Speaker 2: the Three Wise Men, none of that. Just let me

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Speaker 2: have a gift and let me open one on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: That would have probably been even more controversial if they

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Speaker 1: had thrown an entire church into a wood schipper.

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Speaker 2: They'd probably Hey, if you want me to look, guys,

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Speaker 2: I can write your right wing outrage bait like AADs

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Speaker 2: so easily, and I'll do it for free, y'all, as

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Speaker 2: long as you have the budgets to make them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, those are some of the things that

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Speaker 1: are trending on this Monday, November six.

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Speaker 2: We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself,

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Speaker 1: get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and

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Speaker 1: we will talk to you all tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye,