WEBVTT - Inky Johnson 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.520 is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.520 That's getting down to do it. Good do it. We 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.040 one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:34.680 about it, then we're about to let you know. It's 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:44.159 all class. Get wait on you all right? Hey, So 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.479 over the weekend, I saw something that's been training a 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.599 little bit on social media, so I wanted to get 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.280 your take on it. And I love a good social 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.600 media list behind on social media, that's fine. That's why 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:55.720 I want to ask you this because I know you 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.760 haven't seen this. That's why I want to ask you 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.320 in real time to get your reactions. So this is 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.400 a top ten list the most exciting college football players 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.920 of all time. Alright, top ten lists? Notes, alright, alright, right, 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.120 just down, write it down. I'm gonna go through one 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:19.080 through ten. Alright, Number ten, Jabrill Peppers, what exactly? Jabrill Peppers? 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:24.160 Number ten is what you wanted? Jabrill Propers all time, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.600 all time. I know Tim Tebow in the top three. Alright, 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.840 let me let me run through the list. Number nine, 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:39.720 Michael Vick, okay, I like vic numbers of baller. Number eight, 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:47.720 Peter Wark m it was so smooth. Number seven, Braxton Miller, 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:53.480 Ohio State. Oh oh, Now the eyeballs are going the quarterback, 0:01:53.680 --> 0:02:00.560 the quarterback. Hold on, yo, yeah, say save your opinions 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.520 when the list is completed, because there's there's more of 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.680 a Is this a coast like East coast? This is? 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.760 This is? I will diverge the source at the end. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.400 This is, but this got's a lot of Braxton Miller, 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.440 Bxon Miller. Number seven. I'm not gonna put his full 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:25.600 naw d b Miller. Number six, Lamar Jackson all time, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:31.560 all time, most exciting college football players of all times. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:36.200 So how does on here? Because you said exciting? Trek 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.200 number ten, Jabrill Peppers, number nine, Michael Vick, number eight, 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:45.240 Peter Ward number seven, Braxon Miller six, Lamar Jackson, number five, 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:52.960 Johnny Manziel, Who Johnny Manzi Johnny Football? Number four? N Right, here, 0:02:52.960 --> 0:03:06.520 guy's your podcast. Number four, Christian McCaffrey, continue, number three, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.240 number three, number three before number three can do this? 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:16.239 Number three not Manny, Number three, Smith my Son number three, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:21.040 The shadowest is the kiddie pool of college football. This 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:26.160 is all like in the last twenty years, number all time. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.680 Number three, This isn't three year old, did it? You're 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.880 trying to take my shoine, It's all I'm just I'm baffled. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.960 Number three, you got Johnny football and Braxton gets it 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:43.840 gets better. Number one Reggie jam Miller. Damn, it might 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.720 be him too, benjam Miller might be on this. They 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:55.320 all look alike. Number three, say Kwan Barkley. Number two, 0:03:55.560 --> 0:04:04.040 Number two Tavon Austin, who table from from West Virginia, 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.800 from West Virginia. And number one, as we revealed, Reggie 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:14.640 Bush who did this? So so? Just Kyle Brant who 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.200 so so this has been getting I mean just think 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.159 about it. Before I even say where this came from, 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.000 think about who's missing off of this list. Jon Bo Jackson, 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:30.880 Bardershall Walker, Ricky Williams. You can even said Tim tebow S, 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:43.560 Bessel was Braxton, Ron Dane right, Tommy fra Yes, Lawrence Phillips. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.279 I mean we can go on and on, right, this 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.200 is number this is the top ten list. Top four. 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.360 So this went around. It was going around on social 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.560 media and it was in my group and it was 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.800 my it was in my group chat. So I download 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.680 the pictures. It wasn't fat bad, it wasn't fat. But 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.240 he didn't time in on this. He didn't. He didn't 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.279 time in on the conversation. So so I get the 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.320 pictures sent to me and so I download cause I'm like, 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.200 we gotta talk about this on the podcast. This would 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.200 be this would be great. So then I download this picture. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:17.040 So I'm so so dumbfounded. I wrote the wrong wrong. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.960 So I'm looking at him like all right, we're gonna 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.120 talk about this, and I'm like, all right, where I'm like, 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.880 where did this? Where did this come from? And I 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.840 zoom in on the picture and read at the very 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:33.760 bottom the source of the It's from Tavon Austin, number 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:39.920 two on the list, created his own social media debatable 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:45.200 top ten list. You're number two and you created this list. 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:50.159 To your point, bro, if you're born after you shouldn't 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.800 be making a list like all the people that and 0:05:53.839 --> 0:06:00.800 you put yourself second. He's not even sit, not even 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.719 a humble like I'm gonna put myself in there, like 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.920 you know, like if I'm a top five, and see, 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.960 like you know, y'all might humbly put myself in eight, right, 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.159 like evenlu Wayne doesn't do that, right, But come on, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.160 you're gonna put yourself at number two? Come on, man, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:20.800 where's he's number two? Sa Kwan was three? Sa Kwan 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.440 is three, and he put he put himself a number two. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.400 And then Reggie Bush. I can't really are Reggie Bush 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.000 is up there? Right? Reggie Bush is up there? I 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:34.599 don't have Reggie Bush is on this sure? No Vince Young, 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:40.040 But like the list is like of players that some 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:45.880 of the players. Maybe he was you know, yeah, he 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.599 was exciting, he was this, he was there. But in 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:57.039 the same cap, you're telling me that he surplants Barry Sanders, right, Like, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:03.919 there's so many players, so any fantastic players, heralded players, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.200 And I mean, I know CMC, but Peter Ward, Peter 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:13.680 Ward deserves to be on that list. But not don't 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.160 even I don't even know bracting like that, And I 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.000 don't even want him to be offended. But were just 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.200 we're just debating the list. It's not it's debating the list. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.600 I am removing names. You're you're now amending the list. No, No, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:36.560 I am please record striking from the record number ten, 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.800 number seven, it's just all time. I'm not I don't 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:46.080 think putting Lamar Jackson at six all time right now 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:51.200 with still with his career and let me big number nine. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.720 Let me tell you about Johnny Manzeil. Johnny Manzel more 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.280 exciting than Michael Vick. The Sugar Bowl game, John Ball. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.480 I know some people may think that's a shade, so 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:09.600 let the shade begin. My man is whether he chooses 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:15.120 not chooses. He is in a football league right now 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:21.960 because of his lack of ability to play in the NFL. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:28.480 He was, yes, an exciting football player in college who 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:34.200 had weaknesses like every other college football player has. But 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:42.920 to say that he is four spots ahead of Michael Vick, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:57.600 he is three spots from the top player Reggie Bush 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:03.719 and Tavon Austin is even on this list is remarkable, 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:12.439 the self serving list. But then Jabrill Peppers as number ten. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:19.280 Jabrille was a dynamic player, absolutely, but he is not 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.880 a step below Michael Vin. He's not on the same 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.320 page as Peter Ward now. He is on the same 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:35.600 piece of paper with Braxy Miller, which is which is aflow. 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.200 He had a great career, but I mean defensively, Charles 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.960 Woodson was even a more impactful player. Charles Watson is 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.880 not on this list. If we're if we're gonna have 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:49.560 a defensive player on here, no Charles, No, No, Honey Badger, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:57.080 Like there's there's been some more impactful, even defensive players, Lavaran. Yeah, 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.360 I would say Matt Liner before I say Johnny man Zail. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.280 I can see that. I can see that. I would 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:12.160 say Carson Palmer. Yeah, definitely, Johnny man Zail, Like, come on, yeah, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.840 if you if you're born after I don't know that 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.880 you should be listing out stuff. You haven't seen anything yet, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:22.000 come on, come on, tape on. Should have gave him 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.120 the big dummy. I'm not even gonna say anything. He's 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:26.840 gonna take it the wrong way if I say anything. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:33.640 I watched you much film, right, I'm just top ten 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.800 most exciting college football players of all time, Braxton Miller, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.959 I'm still you're still react. This is this is why 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:43.720 I wanted to give it to you. It's not even 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.559 because I'm you just talking about when you you talk 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.520 about Lamar Jackson, talked about oh swift right, Pete a 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.880 Ward not fast, but just smooth. Peters definitely right, Peter 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.240 would be top five. Michael Vick, Bye bye bye series 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:02.480 see fast, Reggie Bush flipping Braxton Miller. I don't I 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.080 don't have a memory, and I'm not trying to shave, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.320 but I don't have a memorable Braxton Miller play like 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:07.880 I can think of. I'm thinking of place right now, 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.920 Peter Ward, of Michael Vick, of of Reggie Bush. If 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.280 I was just the guys who were on here, I 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:21.880 just go down to Ohio State Memory Bank. Reggie Germany, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:28.200 mm hmm, Terry Glenn ted Ginn. Yeah, Maurice Clarette. You're 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:34.360 talking about Zeke Zeke, but Braxell Miller does not ring 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.880 a bell of man that that play that that defining 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:45.480 even just one place. George right right, so we could 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:49.520 we could dissect this all day. I'm just grabbing some 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.320 names that I'm just like, well, I'm just saying in 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.240 terms of players we know that should be on there. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:12:00.880 That's that's he was on the squad, but he ain't 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.880 on the All Times squad and I ain't on it either. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.520 But I tell you who needs to be on He 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.000 need to be over here on the list with me, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:15.440 which is nobody's no, man, I'm just being honest. Goodness gracious, well, 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.000 hey must be nice to be able to just be 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:24.839 a returner go from team to think. That's me. What 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:31.400 we got now? Who we got besides Shade? Coming up 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.840 on the Cut to It Podcast, We've got Inky Johnson, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.960 a renowned motivational speaker, former college football player at the 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.720 University of Tennessee and the native of Kirkwood, Georgia. Inky 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:50.079 Johnson on the Cut to It Podcast, Our first segment 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.040 is called get iced Up. You don't know what's coming, 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.040 so buckle up, Smithy game. The first one, all right, 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:02.439 what did you eat this morning for breakfast? Hash? Brown's egg, 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:13.000 white blueberries, m m okay, carbohydrate starts and then uh, yes, sir, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.120 you like you see how you see how I broke that? 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.080 Broke it down? Bro? What so would you have to 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.719 drink or you're gonna lie and say you have water? No? No, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.360 I have some O J and some gatorade? Nice hydrated? 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.760 Hold on? Hold on? Yeah o J and gatorade. Yeah, 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:36.680 o J and gatorade. Why both get that vitamin see 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.560 and try to stay hydrated. I usually hit the steam 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.080 room or the sun in the morning. Oh, Okay, I 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:46.280 get a little hydration in a method to the madness. Yeah, 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:55.000 or he lazy touch your club workout and then him 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.000 being an athlete, that's it. Hey, you know how to 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.760 manipulate use that steam. He'll be in a state. I've 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.400 been in the steam shower fully dressed just to get 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:07.640 that wet. She calls it, Daddy, are you being trash 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.080 man the game today? Because I got the trash bag 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.000 of sweat out fit in the steam room? Yes, sir, 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:22.000 in my steamroom episodes, do you know who what you got? Inky? 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:30.480 Inky less Brown m that's serious. I am in love 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:36.080 with Inky's intensive Yes, and anytimes his post just right. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.160 It's always right about six o'clock. I know I'm gonna 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:44.720 get Inky on my feet and morning motivation. Get Inky. 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.280 I'm talking about the YouTube like Intertwine. I'm talking about 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.200 twenty minutes like I'm in there sometimes. My wife came 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.160 in there one time. What she showed me to the glass. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.840 She goes, are you doing push ups and sit up 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:03.080 in the steam room? Yeah? I got that. I mean, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.920 what's up everything? So so I can have that orange 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:15.440 juice and gatorade and hash brown egg whites and blue 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:24.840 Bears man as real. What's your go to genre that 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:30.400 gets you relaxed? Man? Um, I like that old school music, 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.920 man like because I used to hang around my uncle's 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.560 coming up and they used to play that the old school, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.720 you know that Sam Cooke and Old Jay's, you know 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.520 all them cats. Man, just chill. I joke with the 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.600 wife a little bit, play around like I could sing, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.600 but you know I can't. Common in the back, some 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:54.480 rooftop type stuff. So yeah, doctor a babe, you know 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.320 all that. I was listening to. My wife came in 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:58.760 off and she said, what do you listen to? I 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.800 was listening to Miles Davis. M hmm. You gotta have 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.920 that old school, especially if you if you like inky, 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.760 you've grown around older people. Oh you you you gotta 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.520 listen to their music because they're not going to change 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.320 to your stuff back today. You gotta listen to that stuff, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:18.440 you know. So last one, the weirdest spelling of inky 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:23.120 on the Starbucks cup. I'm gonna be real with you. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.840 I don't even do Starbucks. Oh I don't even do 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:34.000 Starbucks too. When the cat doesn't spell inky with a cue, 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.680 you know, and of course we all know it's in 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.240 k but the cat. Don't put in che eye. That 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:49.120 was one of our dudes too. Didn't my man trip out? 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:54.880 It was a brother, wasn't ye? He was struggling, man, struggling? 0:16:55.880 --> 0:17:02.080 Your birth name is what? And Corey is incorious? And 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.959 who is? Who is? Who? Also is incoorious? Are you 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:12.080 a junior? No? So my son is a junior. But 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.679 my mom she was reading a book about the Iroquois 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.639 Indian tribe and she came up with incurious, But my 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:24.159 grandfather came up with inky m So everybody kind of 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.400 just took to it for obvious reasons. That inquorious kind 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:33.119 of drawn out. Do you like your first name? Yeah, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.000 it's unique, it's unique. I struggled with it early on though, 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:41.480 trying to spell it, you know, smacking me upside the head. 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:45.320 But I like it. It's unique. So I'm trying to 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:51.000 be funny, but I'm being serious. You can't read it 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.800 right right, you know as a kid, you don't know 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.920 how I found out. Are you trying to spell? Yo? 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:02.399 You're trying to spell emporious? And every day listen and 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.160 I'm just saying how we want to how we want 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.800 to say. It's a grown folk conversation, right you gave 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.360 me my name. I'm getting my asswoll from not knowing 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:16.840 how to spell it. How come that's my fault. It's 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.760 my fault, you get I can be I can remember 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.800 being at the kitchen table trying to spell up my name. 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:24.560 I was like five years old and struggle with my 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.600 last name because it has so many letters. Last name 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.639 is a little john, right, so it has so many letters. 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.200 And it was just trying to remember like the coming 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.800 for to eat, Like I can remember that the same thing, 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.680 like I got this name, how to spell it? Love 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.000 having you on here, man, I told you, like I said, Man, 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.400 I just love your intensity. I love what you do, 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.920 how you do it. And so we really want to 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.840 get into, uh, really the way how did you become 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.240 who you are? UM. We know a little bit. I 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.880 know a little bit a lot of bit about your 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.040 story also too, but I really want to let you 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:01.400 dive into, um really the aftermath of what happened and 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:06.479 and and what you have gone through internally to become 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:12.320 inky and not allow the incident to be a story, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.000 but the outcome to be your story. Where are you 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:21.240 from and in the place you call your hometown? Absolutely 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.439 you know it's um it's southeast corner of Atlanta UM 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.400 neighborhood by the name of Kirkwood. You know, Kirkwood today, 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.200 with gentrification and things of that nature, is a lot 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.000 different than it was back when I was coming up. 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:39.840 You know, your typical inner city. You know, you got everything, drugs, gangs, violence, 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.399 you name it. We had it. And uh, just a 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.600 kid with a dream, man going to a mother at 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:49.639 sixteen two bedroom home. Fourteen people are sleeping on the floor, 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.720 you know, roaches and rats. And I wanted to change 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.639 my family situation. You know, I had uncles in that 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.000 how it's going in and out of prison. Um saw 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:03.040 cops kicked down my door numerous number of times. I 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.320 watched my mother get up and go to work at 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.960 Wendy's a double shift. You know, from the time I 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.880 was a kid to the time I went to college, 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.119 and it's dream feeled me. Man. I just wanted to 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.959 get my family, my grandmother, my mother, my uncle's, my 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.320 aunt's just a better living condition. And I felt as 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.359 if at the time, football was that vehicle, and I 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.720 put all my chips into it. And I had a 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.000 lot of people along the way that assisted me and 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.520 helped me. You know, it helped me accountable. How did 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.040 growing up that way impact you on how you saw 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.919 the world because you had to see it in a 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.480 different light compared to the person on the other side 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.840 of the tracks. Absolutely, you know, I always tell people, 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.760 and I felt like I was fortunate because I got 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.879 to see both sides at an early age. You know. 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.880 I think sports gave me a certain, you know, avenue 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.720 of exposure to know that it was more out there 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.280 than just my environment. It in my living condition. And 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.720 in the same sense, I saw the collateral damage that 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.120 came with you know, crime. I saw a collateral damage 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.240 that came with cats getting sent to prison, right and 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.280 seeing what it did to their children. I've seen the 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.880 collateral damage of when a cat go out and make 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.600 a certain decision, or when a cat went to work 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.399 and did it the right way to take care of 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.160 his family. I was able to see both sides of it. 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:25.639 And my grandma used to say something to me, like 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.720 all the time, like me and my cousins be walking 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.399 to the bus stop, and in my little age range 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.439 I was the oldest, you know, they were younger than me, 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.080 and then my other cousins they had me by three 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.119 or four years and they were older than me, and 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:39.840 my grandma used to say to me every morning, she 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.800 would say, hey, Inky, remember you got a choice, right, 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:44.960 Remember you got a choice. Every single day. You got 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.040 a choice. And the way I processed it was, I 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.400 got a choice of my decisions, my choices, right, how 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.679 I view life, the perspective that I have about the 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:55.879 things that we were going through at the time, and 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.400 it shaped and it fueled me right more than anything, 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.199 I used it as my dry having forced right to 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:03.639 know that it was more out there than just my 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.400 living condition and inside of Atlanta, because I attended Atlanta 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:11.040 Public school system and at the time my school was 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.400 one of the Lord's performing public schools in the state 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:17.600 of Georgia, and so the conversation was just different. So 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:22.360 through sports, it exposed me to a different world. We 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.480 have to take a break and the morning thing, we 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:33.200 gotta pay some bills, you got checks. I love cut 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.800 to It, and I love it even more when you 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:40.000 download us and subscribe and you can follow us on 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:43.240 social media too. Smithie, where where at that's at? Cut 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:48.399 to It on Instagram? What about Twitter? At? Cut to It? Facebook? 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.520 Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr. What about online 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.480 and you can follow us at cut to It podcast 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.680 dot com, where you can buy merch and you can 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:02.119 subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.720 all my answers questions. Uh yeah, I got all my 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.280 questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother, Cut 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.439 to a podcast dot com. What were would you use 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:18.160 to describe what football meantor you growing up? Mm hmmm. 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:23.719 It was an escape for sure, right because of what 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.679 it did for me. It helped me take everything I 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.040 was dealing with at home, and when I got on 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.800 the field, man, I just forgot about it right, Like 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.159 it escaped me right and I was able to be free. 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.480 I felt like when I played ball, I was free. 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.320 I'm sleeping on that floor with the roaches and rats 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.560 from seeing cats in the corner doing what they're doing, 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.000 And I would say it was it was an escape 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:49.000 for sure. Being from a big family. I'm from a 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.359 big family. My mom is one of thirteen. When my 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.960 mom being one of thirteen, she had two children, me 0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.600 and my brother, but one of my aunts she had 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:02.280 five now that an't had three. And then those cousins 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:06.000 grew up to be adults like myself. And then I 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:10.200 have four, and my brother has two. Mother cousin has three. 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.199 You had all those up. It's about sixty of us 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:19.520 living and breather. About seven percent of us live outside 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.160 of the state of California. The rest of them live 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:29.320 live in California. You had to learn some things good 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:33.760 and bad from your from being a close knit family. 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.119 Whether you want to be or not, you have to 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:39.600 be because of the circumstances. So what were some of 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:44.600 the things that you experienced being in a two bedroom house. 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.520 You could have been in a tin bedroom house, it 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.960 didn't matter. You were in the house with a lot 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.320 of different folks, a lot of different attitudes, a lot 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:58.360 of different perspectives, a lot of different viewpoints. And then 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:02.440 you add the cold trull part on there. You add 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.879 you add the struggle on in there, and it is 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:12.000 a cocktail. Some would say disaster. But we're talking to 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.960 Inkie Johnson today with one of some of the things 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:18.120 that he experienced. And there was a cocktail for success 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.960 because it fueled you. It made you intense. That people 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:26.840 are intrigued in love the intensity of you. So what 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:35.040 what did that strong, tighten it forced living situation do 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:40.920 for your your internal dialogue of how your family structure 0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:47.399 was absolutely man it um. You know, Steve, I always 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.000 tell people, Man, I say, those are some of the 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.560 best times in my life. Now, of course, you know 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.040 I've had more because I got children, got a wife. 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.280 But growing up, man, that was some of the best 0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.680 times in my life. You know, me and my cousins 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:01.800 will be sleep on the floor and we will lay 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.800 out pallets. And at night when a cat would jump 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.760 on the phone and be talking to a girl and 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.280 all us base dropping and we're a joke with him. 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.119 When you get off the phone and all of us 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.600 right there in the same environment, you know, it taught 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:18.080 us protection. It taught us you protect family, right, you 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.560 care about family. Because in that same family, you got 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:23.960 certain cats. You know, they're doing what they're doing, and 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.680 they're going to prison, and they got their reasoning for 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.320 You got other cats in that same house that get 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.040 up and they go to church, they go to Bible study, 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.040 and so you got two different types of cats in 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.639 that same house. But at the end of the day, 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.960 it was still a level of unconditional love. Meaning when 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.119 a cat went to prison, right, you you might you 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.800 might hold him accountable, you might criticize him, you're gonna 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:48.760 talk to him and where you're gonna talk to him. 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.239 But at the end of the day, that's family. Like 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:52.960 when me and my cousin used to wear the same 0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:55.560 clothes to school, Right, I wear it on Monday, my 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.840