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Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 2: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 2: that our loved ones.
Speaker 3: Have survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to
Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife and welcome to our time together today.
Speaker 3: I'm excited. We're going to start off with some news
Speaker 3: and then we're going on a trip together. So pack
Speaker 3: your suitcase. We're going to go to South America and
Speaker 3: the country of Brazil. First, some news actress Jennifer Aniston
Speaker 3: was recently asked if she's ever had a reading with
Speaker 3: a medium. Here's what she said.
Speaker 4: So the answer to that question for me is yes,
Speaker 4: I have. I spoke to a medium about four years ago.
Speaker 4: We were so many, so much was coming through, so
Speaker 4: much was coming through. But she said this one thing,
Speaker 4: a bunch of things that blew my mind, but this
Speaker 4: one was really incredible. She said, your mom could never
Speaker 4: compete with her first husband's dance hers. So my mom's
Speaker 4: first husband, my brother's father was like a big band leader,
Speaker 4: and he always was having these affairs with women, and
Speaker 4: my mom was always sort of.
Speaker 2: You know, just quiet and meek.
Speaker 4: And then she said, but he also wanted her to
Speaker 4: know that he never recovered from the death of his sister,
Speaker 4: who died in a plane crash.
Speaker 2: Something that's so specific.
Speaker 4: So I called my brother and I said, I also
Speaker 4: didn't know his father had a sister.
Speaker 2: That was the other thing.
Speaker 4: So I said to my brother, Johnny, did your father
Speaker 4: have a sister who died? So I don't say plane crash,
Speaker 4: I don't say anything, and then he goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: Aunt Jane, Aunt Jane, she died in a plane crash.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, oh aunt Jane, Yes, she died in a
Speaker 4: plane crash. Charl's now even repeating the story.
Speaker 2: I love that story. When you go to a medium,
Speaker 2: you need to hear evidence to believe that your loved
Speaker 2: one lives on. But when you get evidence that you
Speaker 2: don't even know is the truth, and you have to
Speaker 2: go ask somebody else. Those kind of stories I never
Speaker 2: get tired of hearing. Next. In June twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: Grammy Award winner Madonna was reportedly intubated after being found unresponsive.
Speaker 2: Now she's opening up that she had a near death experience.
Speaker 2: She was rushed to a New York City hospital after
Speaker 2: developing a bacterial infection. She said the whole experience was
Speaker 2: very scary and was put into an induced coma. She
Speaker 2: says when she woke up, the first word she said
Speaker 2: was no. In her experience, God was asking her, do
Speaker 2: you want to come with us, and Madonna, knowing that
Speaker 2: her job on Earth was not yet complete, repeated to God, No,
Speaker 2: No No. Next, twenty eight year old medium Tyler Henry,
Speaker 2: star of the Netflix series Life After Death and E
Speaker 2: Entertainment's mega hit television show Hollywood Medium, has opened up
Speaker 2: that the process of airing celebrity interviews is not very easy.
Speaker 2: It's common when doing a reading that a publicist jumps
Speaker 2: in and says, no, no, no, we're not using that.
Speaker 2: He says, so much of the evidence that comes through
Speaker 2: is of a personal nature. Some of the details never
Speaker 2: appear on screen. He enjoys doing celebrity readings, but says
Speaker 2: it's really bad for medium who's trying to provide information
Speaker 2: that isn't found on Google, and it would be nice
Speaker 2: for the celebrities to open up a little more about
Speaker 2: their personal lives. He continues that reading everyday folks carries
Speaker 2: much less baggage, and that's truly where his heart is.
Speaker 2: Tyler says many celebrities still come to him for readings,
Speaker 2: but for me, he says, most of my readings are
Speaker 2: done for free, and a lot of those readings are
Speaker 2: done for terminally ill people. They are my VIPs, and
Speaker 2: those situations allow me to provide comfort for people who
Speaker 2: are going to be making their transition. I've met with
Speaker 2: children before they have passed, as well as their parents.
Speaker 2: It allows me to really kind of satisfy why I
Speaker 2: do what I do in a much bigger way. Kudos
Speaker 2: to Tyler Henry and any others that are giving back next.
Speaker 2: Eighty one year old retired comedian, actor and musician Sir
Speaker 2: Billy Connelly has admitted to previously offending most religions with
Speaker 2: his comedy, but he has now confessed that he can't
Speaker 2: accept that death will be the end of him. Connolly,
Speaker 2: who was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease and prostate cancer in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, said while he's not scared of death, he
Speaker 2: does resent the idea of his life coming to an end.
Speaker 2: I do feel cheated in a way, but it hasn't
Speaker 2: happened yet, So how can I feel cheated? And who knows?
Speaker 2: It might be so lovely on the other side that
Speaker 2: you don't even think about that. I'm sure there's something
Speaker 2: after death. I'm sure there is, asked why, he added,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but in recent years I've just got
Speaker 2: a knowing that there is. Although Parkinson's has severely slowed
Speaker 2: down Connolly's physical abilities, he has not lost his sense
Speaker 2: of humor and humor I hope is the last thing
Speaker 2: to go next. You may remember the film The Perfect Storm,
Speaker 2: which told the story of the boat the Gale, a
Speaker 2: commercial fishing vessel that was lost at sea, with all
Speaker 2: lives being lost in the Perfect Storm of nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2: The film starred George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg, Diane Lane and
Speaker 2: Moore and was one of the highest grossing films in
Speaker 2: the year two thousand. Now, the author of the book
Speaker 2: The Perfect Storm, Sebastian Younger, has a new book telling
Speaker 2: his story about what might happen after death. His new
Speaker 2: book is titled In My Time of Dying, How I
Speaker 2: Came face to face with the idea of an afterlife.
Speaker 2: For years as an award winning reporter, Sebastian traveled to
Speaker 2: many front lines and frequently put his life at risk,
Speaker 2: and yet the closest he ever came to death was
Speaker 2: the summer of twenty twenty, while spending a quiet afternoon
Speaker 2: at his New England home that he shared with his
Speaker 2: wife and two young children. Crippled by abdominal pain, Younger
Speaker 2: was rushed to the hospital by ambulance. Once there, he
Speaker 2: began to slip away as the blackness set in. He
Speaker 2: was visited by his dead father, inviting him to join him.
Speaker 2: It's okay, his father said, there's nothing to be scared of.
Speaker 2: I'll take care of you. That's the last thing Younger
Speaker 2: remembered until he was aware again and was told he
Speaker 2: suffered a ruptured aneurism and that he shouldn't have survived.
Speaker 2: This experience spurred Younger, a confirmed atheist raised by his
Speaker 2: physicist father, to respect the empirical, to undertake a scientific, philosophical,
Speaker 2: and deeply personal examination of mortality and what happens after
Speaker 2: we die. How do we begin to process the brutal
Speaker 2: fact that any of us might perish unexpectedly on what
Speaker 2: begins as an ordinary day, he says, How do we
Speaker 2: grapple with phenomena that's science may be unable to explain,
Speaker 2: and what happens to a person emotionally and spiritually when
Speaker 2: forced to reckon with such existential questions. His brand new book,
Speaker 2: In My Time of Dying is part medical drama, part autobiography,
Speaker 2: and part inquiry into the mystery of life after death.
Speaker 2: The book In My Time of Dying, How I Came
Speaker 2: Face to Face with the idea of an Afterlife, is
Speaker 2: available everywhere you buy books, and it's near the top
Speaker 2: of the charts on the Amazon bestseller list. If you
Speaker 2: enjoy stories of the afterlife and celebrities and movies about
Speaker 2: the Afterlife. I invite you to go back to episode
Speaker 2: number forty four zero of Shades of the Afterlife. Here's
Speaker 2: some trivia that you may not know. Famous inventor Thomas Edison,
Speaker 2: who created some things we can't live without, like the
Speaker 2: electric light bulb and electric light motion pictures, first to
Speaker 2: invent the phonograph in eighteen seventy seven. In fact, the
Speaker 2: first record he ever created was his own voice reciting
Speaker 2: the nursery rhyme Mary had a little lamb. I bet
Speaker 2: you didn't know that. In nineteen twenty, he announced plans
Speaker 2: to capture a different kind of voice, one that belonged
Speaker 2: to those no longer living, specifically a spirit phone capable
Speaker 2: of talking to the dead. Mark Hartzman, who is a
Speaker 2: historian and the author of Chasing Ghosts, A Tour of
Speaker 2: our fascination with spirits and the supernatural, said, aside from
Speaker 2: the life changing feat of breaking through the Veil, I
Speaker 2: believe Edison's interest in spiritualism was simply to demonstrate that science,
Speaker 2: not mediums and Ouiji boards, was the way to do it.
Speaker 2: In fact, in nineteen twenty, Thomas Edison told American magazine
Speaker 2: that the methods and apparatus commonly used and discussed are
Speaker 2: just a lot of unscientific nonsense. Some believed Edison's supposed
Speaker 2: belief in communicating with the dead was a joke or
Speaker 2: a chance to make headlines and capitalize on spiritualism's popularity.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, Edison had an unusual hypothesis
Speaker 2: regarding what happens after humans die. The inventor spoke of
Speaker 2: his belief in the idea of units in a nutshell,
Speaker 2: one hundred trillion of them make up a human being
Speaker 2: and keep us functioning. When we die, the life units
Speaker 2: move on to someone else. That's another way of saying
Speaker 2: our energy cannot be destroyed. It's now over one hundred
Speaker 2: years since Edison was designing this machine to record spirit voices,
Speaker 2: and although spirit communication is not yet in every household
Speaker 2: using technology, there's plenty of people using technology to record
Speaker 2: voices and images of the afterlife. During the break, I'm
Speaker 2: going to ask you to pack your suitcase, a swimsuit,
Speaker 2: suntan lotion, sunglasses. We're going to Brazil, and you'll hear
Speaker 2: about three mediums who have done extraordinary things to connect
Speaker 2: with the afterlife. Then toward the end, you'll hear from
Speaker 2: a mom who's making a difference helping people through grief,
Speaker 2: and also her unique way of connecting with her daughter KaiA.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the break and then we'll be back.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 2: I want you to imagine growing up in a country
Speaker 2: where believing in the afterlife is normal in most of
Speaker 2: the world. If a little child talks about seeing Grandma
Speaker 2: or Grandpa or somebody else in the afterlife, normally they
Speaker 2: call them their imaginary friends, and the kids aren't taken seriously.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine encouraging children to talk more about the
Speaker 2: people they are seeing and encourage spiritual development. Back on
Speaker 2: episode fifty three, we spoke to Nikola Farmer, who works
Speaker 2: with young children with the belief that we are all
Speaker 2: born naturally psychic. These young children are able to do
Speaker 2: extraordinary things while blindfolded. They are able to see using
Speaker 2: the power of their minds. They can read books, play
Speaker 2: catch with a ball, even do arts and crafts, all
Speaker 2: with no vision. Earlier, I told you to pack your
Speaker 2: bags because today we are venturing to the country of Brazil,
Speaker 2: known for the Amazon River, the rainforest, Rio di Jannio's carnival,
Speaker 2: their love for football, food, gorgeous beaches, colorful cities, samba music,
Speaker 2: and where people grow up believing in the afterlife. I
Speaker 2: first learned of the religion or belief in spiritism, when
Speaker 2: my mom and I owned our thirty year catering business
Speaker 2: working with race car teams. When my book We Don't Die,
Speaker 2: a skeptics discovery of life after Death came out twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: Brazilian race car driver Champion Oznegri told me about his
Speaker 2: country's belief in the afterlife. He gave me some websites
Speaker 2: to research and told me that most people grow up
Speaker 2: believing in life after death. Today, I want to share
Speaker 2: the amazing works of three Brazilian afterlife pioneers who have
Speaker 2: done some incredible things. But first I'd like to tell
Speaker 2: you about Spiritism. The Spiritist movement began in nineteenth century
Speaker 2: France with the writings of Hippolyte Revail under the pseudonym
Speaker 2: Alan Cardick. In his most famous work, The Spirit's Book,
Speaker 2: Cardick codified the philosophy that would later sweep the world
Speaker 2: as the Spiritist movement. While this book and others written
Speaker 2: by Cardik and his followers provide detailed descriptions of spiritist principles,
Speaker 2: what appears to be most essential to the movement is
Speaker 2: the belief that a spirit exists within each human body.
Speaker 2: They believe the spirit reincarnates into an afterlife body, progressing
Speaker 2: towards spiritual perfection. Spiritists also believe in the existence of
Speaker 2: other life forms in the universe, God as the supreme intelligence,
Speaker 2: and an afterlife that is physically close to planet Earth.
Speaker 2: They believe when we pass, we go to a colony
Speaker 2: of souls that float over the Earth. Spiritism took root
Speaker 2: in Brazil with the help of Chico Javier, which I
Speaker 2: would normally pronounce Chico Xavier. He was born in nineteen
Speaker 2: ten and died in two thousand and two, one of
Speaker 2: Brazil's most famous celebrity mediums. We'll be discussing more shortly.
Speaker 2: Mediums are a critical aspect of spiritism. They can communicate
Speaker 2: with spirits of the afterlife through seances or other means. Javier,
Speaker 2: for instance, was renowned for his ability to write letters
Speaker 2: from the dead to their loved ones. Six of these
Speaker 2: letters were actually used as legitimate evidence in murder trials.
Speaker 2: The charisma and popularity of Javier contributed to the explosion
Speaker 2: of spiritism in Brazil. Today, Brazil is the most spiritist
Speaker 2: country in the world, with over six million believers. Spiritism
Speaker 2: is the third largest religious group after Catholics and Evangelicals.
Speaker 2: Another twenty million people call themselves spiritist sympathizers, meaning they
Speaker 2: still belong to their Catholic or Evangelical church, but they
Speaker 2: also believe in spiritism. In the city of Palmelo, for example,
Speaker 2: one in every seven people is a medium. Most spiritists
Speaker 2: are highly educated, middle to upper class, over ninety eight
Speaker 2: percent are literate. This can be attributed to the fact
Speaker 2: that spiritism demands intense personal study and research to be
Speaker 2: truly understood, as well as a common sentiment that Spiritism
Speaker 2: is more refined than traditional Catholicism and spiritism does not
Speaker 2: necessarily conflict with other religious beliefs. Many claim spiritism is
Speaker 2: not a religion, but more of a philosophy. They believe
Speaker 2: that the science of spiritism allows them to understand much
Speaker 2: of what their religion leaves unexplained. Spiritism is often in
Speaker 2: the media, making appearances and countless soap operas and television shows, songs,
Speaker 2: and even a twenty ten Brazilian blockbuster film about medium
Speaker 2: Chico Javier. Most corporations have a Spiritist association, including magistrates, psychologists, artists,
Speaker 2: military and teachers. Spiritism is even taught at public university
Speaker 2: and has museums dedicated to it. In Brazil, April eighteenth
Speaker 2: is officially recognized as National Day of Spiritism. Let's talk
Speaker 2: more about medium Chico Javier, who was known as a
Speaker 2: psychographic medium. In English, we would call this automatic writing,
Speaker 2: where he would go into a trance channel the spirit
Speaker 2: of a deceased person and record their words, often in
Speaker 2: the spirit person's own handwriting. Francisco Candido Javier was fondly
Speaker 2: known as Chico or Chico Javier, and he published more
Speaker 2: than four hundred of these books from nineteen thirty two
Speaker 2: until his death at the age of ninety two in
Speaker 2: two thousand and two. Twenty five million copies of his
Speaker 2: books have been sold. They have been translated into many languages.
Speaker 2: His book No so Lar, also known as astral City,
Speaker 2: was sort of a spiritual memoir, first published in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty four, and it's probably the biggest psychographic hit ever.
Speaker 2: More than sixty Brazilian editions have been printed and over
Speaker 2: two million copies sold. In fact, a full feature film
Speaker 2: was made too, that you can find on Amazon. In
Speaker 2: addition to publishing books, Javier used his ability to record
Speaker 2: more than ten thousand letters from dead people to their families.
Speaker 2: Most often it was grieving mothers who traveled from all
Speaker 2: over Brazil to visit him in the city of Uberaba,
Speaker 2: hoping he would channel messages from their children. In these letters,
Speaker 2: the discarnate spirits typically assured loved ones that there was
Speaker 2: no need to worry, that they were safe and happy,
Speaker 2: and that they still loved their families very much. Sometimes
Speaker 2: the writing was backwards and could only be read with
Speaker 2: the use of a mirror, and sometimes it was in
Speaker 2: a language Javier did not speak. Skeptics who questioned the
Speaker 2: letters authenticity were usually convinced by the handwriting and the
Speaker 2: inclusion of intimate details only the deceased could know. Javier's
Speaker 2: powers were so widely recognized that a few times these
Speaker 2: letters were accepted as evidence in courts of law. The
Speaker 2: most famous occasion was in nineteen seventy nine, when teenager
Speaker 2: Jose Nunes was tried for the murder of his best friend,
Speaker 2: Mauricio Garcis. The two boys had been playing with a
Speaker 2: gun that went off in Nunez's hands, killing Garcus. While
Speaker 2: criminal proceedings were underway, Garcius's grieving parents went to see Javier,
Speaker 2: hoping a letter from their son might bring them comfort.
Speaker 2: It took a while, but eventually a message arrived from Garcius,
Speaker 2: declaring that his death had been an accident. Neither Jose
Speaker 2: nor anyone else is guilty, the letter said, and if
Speaker 2: anyone should ask for forgiveness, it's me, because I shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been playing around with the gun. I should have
Speaker 2: been doing my studying. It concludes, as many such messages do,
Speaker 2: with an assurance I am alive. Garcius's parents submitted the
Speaker 2: letter to the presiding judge, who accepted it as witness testimony.
Speaker 2: An analysis of the letter's signature confirmed that it was
Speaker 2: exactly the same as Garcis's. The judge admitted the psychographt
Speaker 2: letter as evidence and moved to acquit Nunez. The jury
Speaker 2: agreed six votes to one. By the time of this trial,
Speaker 2: Javier was famous throughout Brazil. In nineteen seventy one, three
Speaker 2: quarters of Brazil's televisions tuned into a special live interview
Speaker 2: with him on the show The Firing Line. It was
Speaker 2: the largest television audience in Brazilian history. It was planned
Speaker 2: for only one hour, but lasted nearly three. The audience
Speaker 2: response was so extraordinary that Javier was invited to do
Speaker 2: a follow up interview later that year. That one lasted
Speaker 2: four hours and was watched by an estimated twenty million people.
Speaker 2: Of course, not all Brazilians who watched or convinced that
Speaker 2: Javier could communicate with spirits, but over the years he
Speaker 2: became so widely respected for his humility and generosity. He
Speaker 2: donated all of the proceeds from his books to charity
Speaker 2: and charged nothing for the letters. More than two million
Speaker 2: people signed a petition nominating him for the Nobel Peace
Speaker 2: Prize in nineteen eighty one. After our break, I have
Speaker 2: a few more words about medium Chico Javier. Plus I'm
Speaker 2: going to introduce you to a totally different kind of
Speaker 2: medium and you will be amazed at the work he does,
Speaker 2: not only giving his proceeds a way to charity, but
Speaker 2: starting an orphanage. There's a lot more coming up, including
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Speaker 2: you about in the last segment. So stay write where
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 2: and today we're looking at three extraordinary media from Brazil.
Speaker 2: Did I hear you say you'd love to hear that
Speaker 2: music again? How about a little samba? I hope you
Speaker 2: have a smile on your face. Our energy allows the
Speaker 2: spirit world to do some magnificent things. So anytime you sing,
Speaker 2: you dance, you laugh, they can use your energy and
Speaker 2: direct it where it's needed in the world. And we
Speaker 2: know our world is in need of healing. I'd like
Speaker 2: to share a few more things about Chico Javier before
Speaker 2: we move on to our next medium. Javier, as you remember,
Speaker 2: was the medium with over four hundred books channeled from
Speaker 2: deceased people. In addition, thousands of letters came through him
Speaker 2: and were delivered to loved ones, often in the handwriting
Speaker 2: of the deceased person. When Javier died in two thousand
Speaker 2: and two, three thousand people passed by his coffin each
Speaker 2: of his two day wake. After waiting in a line
Speaker 2: that stretched for two and a half miles, more than
Speaker 2: thirty thousand fans and onlookers accompanied the funeral procession on foot.
Speaker 2: At the cemetery, a police helicopter dropped rose pedals on
Speaker 2: the casket. The governor announced three official days of mourning.
Speaker 2: The country's president described Javier as a great spiritual leader
Speaker 2: who was loved and admired throughout Brazil and left his
Speaker 2: mark on the hearts of all Brazilians. In two thousand
Speaker 2: and six, when A national magazine polled its readers to
Speaker 2: select the greatest Brazilian in history, Javier one with thirty
Speaker 2: six percent of the vote, nearly twice that was received
Speaker 2: by the runner up race car driver Eraton Senna. In
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, seventy one percent of voters agreed he was
Speaker 2: the greatest Brazilian of all time. Javie and his work
Speaker 2: lives on. He was and will remain a central and
Speaker 2: beloved figure, not only in Brazil but throughout the world.
Speaker 2: Our next Brazilian medium today is Jose Madrado, who is
Speaker 2: a medium of multiple faculties, a spiritist lecturer, and has
Speaker 2: visited countries in Europe and the Americas with demonstrations of
Speaker 2: his unique form of mediumship. Madrado has many abilities, some
Speaker 2: he's had from childhood, others he developed in adolescence. But
Speaker 2: he started to paint mediumistically when he was twenty seven
Speaker 2: years old. This means with his eyes closed and fingertips
Speaker 2: on a canvas with oil paints close by, Madrado channels
Speaker 2: deceased artists and produces works of art in those artists
Speaker 2: styles and they are completed in just minutes. Did I
Speaker 2: say his eyes are closed all of the money made
Speaker 2: benefits his orphanage. The City of Light. Artists that he
Speaker 2: works with includes Renoir, Monet, van Go, Gogin, Picasso, Panchetti, Portinari,
Speaker 2: La Trek and more. I first found out about Jose
Speaker 2: Madrado from our mutual friend medium Scott Milligan, who you've
Speaker 2: heard on Shades of the Afterlife several times, who gave
Speaker 2: me the gift of a painting by Madrado. Scott was
Speaker 2: responsible for preparing the hotel room Madrado would be staying
Speaker 2: in at one of his demonstrations, and purchased a vase
Speaker 2: of flowers for his hotel room. When Madrado went into
Speaker 2: trance and channeled the painter Renoir, Scott was by his side,
Speaker 2: and in just over five minutes, a painting of the
Speaker 2: exact vase of flowers in his hotel room was created.
Speaker 2: Madrado had not yet seen these flowers yet apparently Renoir
Speaker 2: had seen them from the afterlife. I'm thrilled to have
Speaker 2: that gift of that painting. Madrato describes going into trance
Speaker 2: as follows. I put myself totally at their disposal. I
Speaker 2: do a short prayer and then there is a shock
Speaker 2: that goes through my spine, and from there I go
Speaker 2: into trance. I am not unconscious yet I have no
Speaker 2: awareness of what is going on around me. I don't
Speaker 2: see things. I always make the comparison of when someone
Speaker 2: is put under general anesthesia for surgery, all you can
Speaker 2: hear is things from far away, so it's more like that.
Speaker 2: But I always intend to be with a clear mind. Generally,
Speaker 2: it's like moments of meditation, when you're lying down in
Speaker 2: rest time. That's how I feel. As for the orphanage,
Speaker 2: Madrado has had a passion to help children since he
Speaker 2: was young. He says, I was a very poortrait, I
Speaker 2: was hungry. I went through a lot of difficulties. So
Speaker 2: this established my passion and I said, one day I
Speaker 2: will do for children when I didn't have the opportunity
Speaker 2: to do, and I will give them things that I
Speaker 2: did not have. An orphanage in Brazil called the City
Speaker 2: of Light was in need of funding to stay open.
Speaker 2: Madrado first had the visit from the spirit of the
Speaker 2: long dead painter Renoir with a proposal to provide funding
Speaker 2: for the orphanage by having Renoir and other art masters
Speaker 2: in the afterlife paint through him and for him to
Speaker 2: sell the paintings. As he put it, he was proposing
Speaker 2: to transform paint into bread, and he was going to
Speaker 2: make Madrado a human paintbrush to be used by these
Speaker 2: masters to paint their beautiful artwork. This action has been
Speaker 2: termed psycho pictography or pictography. At first, Madrado was reluctant
Speaker 2: to accept the invitation because he had never taken any
Speaker 2: painting course and he did not understand art, but he
Speaker 2: was soon persuaded because of the good it would do
Speaker 2: for the orphanage. Renoirre made it clear to Madrado when
Speaker 2: they started to work together that even if one cent
Speaker 2: of the money that came from the paintings was used
Speaker 2: for anything except service to the poor, the painters would
Speaker 2: stop working with him. Since then, Madrado has produced a
Speaker 2: NonStop stream of artwork and is referred to as the
Speaker 2: Living Brush. Madrato also does sculpture and porcelain paintings through
Speaker 2: the inspiration of these artists in spirit. While working full time,
Speaker 2: he has used his mediumistic gifts to create a model
Speaker 2: community center. The City of Light now has a staff
Speaker 2: of twenty two people and two hundred volunteers. Fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: people a month access for free healthcare, three hundred children
Speaker 2: receive free education, five hundred families a month engage in
Speaker 2: cultural activities, and over one hundred homeless people per week
Speaker 2: are given access to food, clothes, fresh showers, as well
Speaker 2: as health care and spiritual support. The City of Light
Speaker 2: offers free medical, dental, psychologists, and social support to the community.
Speaker 2: This work is done without government support and is in
Speaker 2: an area where there is extreme poverty. Currently, Madrado City
Speaker 2: of Light is facing a new challenge, being threatened to
Speaker 2: close down unless they comply with brand new fire regulations,
Speaker 2: costing them many thousands of dollars. In the next segment,
Speaker 2: I'll include details how you can find out more about
Speaker 2: the City of Light. I'd like to read some words
Speaker 2: from blogger Julianne about her experience with Madrado. She said, Thursday,
Speaker 2: we had a guest visit by trance painter Jose Madrado
Speaker 2: from Brazil. In a lecture through his interpreter Marilla, Jose
Speaker 2: gave a talk on how to connect to spirit, his
Speaker 2: personal background, and then as he felt his healing guides
Speaker 2: were with him, he gave a healing to one of
Speaker 2: the students who was in need. When he was doing this,
Speaker 2: there was a strong smell of ether in the air.
Speaker 2: He said that his guides do that to provide this
Speaker 2: as proof of them being there. In the trance art session,
Speaker 2: he went into trance very quickly and started painting. His
Speaker 2: assistant prepares by laying out all the tubes of paints
Speaker 2: and utensils around him, and he chooses them as he
Speaker 2: needs to. She quickly cleans them as he finishes using
Speaker 2: them and then replaces them for him to use again.
Speaker 2: In his art, Madrato channels the old masters and paints
Speaker 2: and styles from the Renaissance period through to Postmodernism with
Speaker 2: Impressionists heavily. In his demonstrations. He uses acrylic paints and brushes, scalpels,
Speaker 2: wide paint brushes like for a house scrubbing brushes, and
Speaker 2: his fingers. Often he is painting with his eyes completely
Speaker 2: shut and takes just minutes to complete each painting before
Speaker 2: starting the next one. We could smell ether again from
Speaker 2: time to time during the demonstration, which lasts about two
Speaker 2: and a half hours, with him in trance for over
Speaker 2: two hours. When he paints, Madrado stands up with a
Speaker 2: canvas laying flat on a table in front of him.
Speaker 2: He starts by dotting some paint on the canvas and
Speaker 2: smearing it with his fingers or the big paint brush.
Speaker 2: Then he uses his fingers, small brushes, scrubbing brushes, or
Speaker 2: scalpels to finish his work. At the end of the demonstration,
Speaker 2: all the paintings created were auctioned to raise money for
Speaker 2: the charitable organization founded and run by him, the City
Speaker 2: of Light in Brazil. In our next segment together, I
Speaker 2: promise I will include how you can watch videos of
Speaker 2: Jose Madrado and the inspirers that work through him doing
Speaker 2: these incredible works of art. Madrado is only a few
Speaker 2: years older than me, so he grew up in Brazil
Speaker 2: when spiritism was well known. He heard voices. As a child,
Speaker 2: he was open to the afterlife. Are you beginning to
Speaker 2: see the difference it would make in a child's life
Speaker 2: being open to the belief that we are souls having
Speaker 2: a human experience and that we don't die. When you
Speaker 2: grow up believing that anything is possible and that you
Speaker 2: have guides, inspirers, and loved ones working by your side,
Speaker 2: it might be possible to listen to these words of encouragement.
Speaker 2: Most of us, when we're kids. We're living a happy
Speaker 2: life and then we get shut down, whether somebody tells
Speaker 2: us we're not good enough or we're not smart enough.
Speaker 2: It's tough being a kid. But consider how the future
Speaker 2: would look if on a global scale, people believed in
Speaker 2: the afterlife raise their children like Nikola Farmer does, letting
Speaker 2: them know that they have psychic abilities and shows them
Speaker 2: how to use them. I think personally, the world would
Speaker 2: be a much different place. And by the way, I
Speaker 2: don't mind if you share these episodes to give your
Speaker 2: fellow humans a little faith, comfort and support. It's time
Speaker 2: for our break and we'll be back with another story.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 2: and we are exploring spiritism and three unique Brazilian mediums.
Speaker 2: They all have one thing in common. Have you guessed it?
Speaker 2: They give their money to charity. They've lived without much
Speaker 2: money and made their life about service to others. And
Speaker 2: if you look hard enough today you'll find some of
Speaker 2: the best mediums charge the lowest price. They certainly have
Speaker 2: their needs covered, but it's not about fame and fortune.
Speaker 2: It's about making a difference with others. A lady medium
Speaker 2: with a lot of integrity that I recently spoke with,
Speaker 2: so that a medium reading shouldn't cost more than a
Speaker 2: really good haircut. I like that going forward. The only
Speaker 2: interviews I will now share with mediums are ones that
Speaker 2: offer the ten minute money back guarantee. If you're not
Speaker 2: satisfied in those first ten minutes, you let the medium
Speaker 2: know the reading comes to an end and you don't pay.
Speaker 2: I hope together we can make that standard in the world.
Speaker 2: It's hard enough to lose a loved one, and it
Speaker 2: really hurts to be taken advantage of by a medium.
Speaker 2: The gift I have for you is I created a
Speaker 2: special web page that you can go to and you
Speaker 2: can see all three of these mediums, plus Nicola Farmer
Speaker 2: and the video about the Blindfolded children. You can read
Speaker 2: some of Chico Javier's words, you can watch Jose Madrado
Speaker 2: do his paintings, and you can watch the movie I
Speaker 2: produced on this next medium all at We Don't Die
Speaker 2: dot Com Forward slash Brazil again. That's We Don't Die
Speaker 2: dot Com Forward Slash Brazil. Are you ready to hear
Speaker 2: our next medium? Drum roll? Please? Oh Sandra, that's not
Speaker 2: a drum roll, that's your samba music. That's right, I
Speaker 2: love it. Our last medium is someone we know from
Speaker 2: episode one. We've heard her EVPs on episode one four seven.
Speaker 2: It's the extraordinary Sonya Ronaldi, who captures images and voices
Speaker 2: from the afterlife. Now, there's no secret that I love
Speaker 2: this woman, and I love what she does, and I
Speaker 2: love the passion she has, especially for helping bereaved parents.
Speaker 2: She's never charged a penny and makes the most incredible difference. Again,
Speaker 2: she grew up in a country that believes in spiritism.
Speaker 2: I have the entire documentary for you on Sonia Andaldi
Speaker 2: at We Don'tdie dot com forward Slash Brazil. Basically, I
Speaker 2: heard about Sonya back in two thousand and two at
Speaker 2: an afterlife seminar. They said there's a woman in Brazil
Speaker 2: who will meet with parents with a tape recorder and
Speaker 2: a second recorder that has some garbled human voices on it.
Speaker 2: There's an empty chair for the child in spirit. The
Speaker 2: parents ask questions of the children, the recorder records the
Speaker 2: garbled voices, and when the recording is played back, the
Speaker 2: children are speaking back to their parents. Back in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: I got to meet Sonya in person and now only
Speaker 2: to find out she is working with cameras and video
Speaker 2: and recording things like a blank television screen or steam
Speaker 2: or static that is being projected into a clear object.
Speaker 2: After seeing her work and having my dad's picture and
Speaker 2: my ex boyfriend's picture who's now in spirit both come
Speaker 2: through in pictures we do not have of them alive.
Speaker 2: I was sold on her work. A shout out to
Speaker 2: Robert Lyon, who made this documentary film. My words on
Speaker 2: this episode will not do Sonya and Naldi justice, So
Speaker 2: I hope you take me up on my offer. Not
Speaker 2: only is the documentary film there for you, but also
Speaker 2: you can see of her latest work. You may be
Speaker 2: left with these people are extraordinary. What difference can I make?
Speaker 2: I'd like to play for you a few words from
Speaker 2: a mom who, after her daughter died, decided to do
Speaker 2: her own investigation, and she created a small YouTube channel
Speaker 2: helping other folks who are grieving and giving her advice
Speaker 2: to connect with the afterlife. She gets the greatest evidence
Speaker 2: that her daughter is still around when she's taking a bath.
Speaker 2: Here's her words.
Speaker 8: Hi'll, this is Catherine. Welcome to a grief Journey. To
Speaker 8: document my journey through grief after my eleven year old
Speaker 8: daughter suddenly and unexpectedly died. Today. I want to talk
Speaker 8: about something that has given all of us a lot
Speaker 8: of comfort, and that is something called after death communication.
Speaker 8: So I had an old friend reach out to me
Speaker 8: and ask, have you had an any of these experiences
Speaker 8: after Kya has passed? And my response was yes, We've
Speaker 8: all had quite a few of these experiences with Kaya,
Speaker 8: and they've given us sometimes a lot more comfort in
Speaker 8: the journey. I think some people who might experience something
Speaker 8: known as an after death communication might dismiss it as
Speaker 8: just in their imagination. At the very beginning after Kya died,
Speaker 8: everything was very chaotic, but if I was able to
Speaker 8: get away from the chaos enough, I would feel her
Speaker 8: presence with me. So I got away from the chaos
Speaker 8: by taking baths. I think I was taking four or
Speaker 8: five baths a day. Every time I took a bath,
Speaker 8: I could feel her presence with me, and I would
Speaker 8: just talk to her and I felt very comforted that
Speaker 8: she was still there. One evening, I took a bath
Speaker 8: and I couldn't feel her presence, so it was perplexing me.
Speaker 8: The next day, I got a call from Kaya's best
Speaker 8: friend's mom who told me that her daughter felt Kaya
Speaker 8: the evening before. So when I could not feel Kaiya,
Speaker 8: her best friend could feel Kya. Since then, we've also
Speaker 8: had very vivid dreams. They're not your typical dream. We
Speaker 8: didn't wake up and have the memory of the dream
Speaker 8: fade away. It's still as very clear in our minds,
Speaker 8: these dreams that we've had where we've been able to
Speaker 8: be with Kaya and the dream we were still aware
Speaker 8: that she had died and we were able to do
Speaker 8: things with her, have conversations with her, watch her play,
Speaker 8: watch her have joy again. And I would say for me,
Speaker 8: these dreams have been the most comforting after death communication
Speaker 8: that I've gotten from Kya. We've also had some things
Speaker 8: around the house. She was banging and clanging around in
Speaker 8: her room for a good three months after she died.
Speaker 8: That seemed to stop a couple of weeks ago, but
Speaker 8: it was very very clear that there was nothing in
Speaker 8: her room that could have made those noises. We've also
Speaker 8: had some things with electronics going wonky around our house.
Speaker 8: My husband, who I would say, before all this has happened,
Speaker 8: was the most skeptical among us of things like life
Speaker 8: after death and the eternity of a soul, But he's
Speaker 8: been the one who's had the most experiences with her.
Speaker 8: He has seen her a lot, He's heard her voice
Speaker 8: tell him things like I love you, Tell Mom, I
Speaker 8: love her. Tell KRN, I love her. So he's had
Speaker 8: the most experiences and he is no longer a skeptic.
Speaker 8: I think the most interesting things that we are attributing
Speaker 8: to after death communication that we've experienced were at her memorial.
Speaker 8: So we had her memorial outdoors by this creek she
Speaker 8: always used to love to go to and play in
Speaker 8: and walk through, and near the end of her memorial,
Speaker 8: it was like all of her friends were suddenly called
Speaker 8: down to play in the creek. It was just this
Speaker 8: mass exodus from the memorial straight to the creek, and
Speaker 8: then we saw a hawk circling over her friends a
Speaker 8: couple times and then perching and just watching the friends play.
Speaker 8: So we feel like that was Kaya calling them to
Speaker 8: go play in the creek and have some moments of
Speaker 8: joy after her memorial, which was very hard for all
Speaker 8: of them. Kaya was a kind of kid who kept
Speaker 8: friends around for years and years and years, and these
Speaker 8: are people that she had known for a very long
Speaker 8: time and it was a very hard loss for them.
Speaker 8: So to see them able to experience that joy, we're
Speaker 8: pretty sure that was Kaya's doing. After her memorial, we
Speaker 8: went to spread her ashes in a spot outdoors at night,
Speaker 8: and a very dear friend of mine saw her first
Speaker 8: shooting star of her entire life life the moment we
Speaker 8: spread the first part of her ashes. We also believe
Speaker 8: that that shooting star was another sign from Kaya. It
Speaker 8: was not a night with a meteor shower, it was
Speaker 8: not great clear sky conditions to see things, but she
Speaker 8: was able to see her first shooting star. Those are
Speaker 8: the experiences that we've had. Many people who have lost
Speaker 8: someone have similar stories, and I think many more people
Speaker 8: possibly experience something similar but dismiss it because they don't
Speaker 8: believe it could be true. They give us peace and
Speaker 8: help us move on. If any of you out there
Speaker 8: are skeptics and someone is sharing an after death communication
Speaker 8: experience with you, maybe it's a good idea to just
Speaker 8: express that you're happy that it's given them such peace
Speaker 8: and leave it at that, instead of trying to talk
Speaker 8: to them about why it might not be true, why
Speaker 8: it might just be in their head. But anyway, that aside,
Speaker 8: if you have lost someone dear to you, my heart
Speaker 8: goes out to you, and I hope you can feel
Speaker 8: the love you have surrounding you.
Speaker 2: Wonderful words from Catherine and you can follow her at
Speaker 2: a grief journey on YouTube. Hearing the tone of Catherine's
Speaker 2: voice just reminded me of why I do what I
Speaker 2: do here on Shades of the Afterlife. I have felt
Speaker 2: the dark hole and pain coming from grief, from the
Speaker 2: physical death of a loved one. There is nothing worse.
Speaker 2: As I'm sure you can agree, I will do everything
Speaker 2: possible to help ease pain, to give hope, and to
Speaker 2: give evidence that we don't die, that your loved ones
Speaker 2: are still around. They're cheering you on and you will
Speaker 2: see them again. As a reminder, go check out the
Speaker 2: page I created for you, we Don't Die dot com
Speaker 2: forward slash Brazil. My friend, you never know what's possible
Speaker 2: when you believe in the afterlife, and that's something we
Speaker 2: can learn from the stories we've heard today. So believe
Speaker 2: and miracles may just show up on your doorstep. I'm
Speaker 2: Sandra Champlain and from the bottom of my heart, thank
Speaker 2: you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network.
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