1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, Welcome to the Move the Sticks Podcast 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: presented by Castrol Edge, DJ, Bucky Here and Buck. We've 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: got so much ground to cover on today's show. I 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: cannot wait to get started. But tell the good folks 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: what's ahead. We have a lot to cover. Quarterback position 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: preview Top five Quarterbacks in Ricky Reports presented by a 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Castro Edge, and then we're gonna take a look back 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: at the best of Packed Wield Media deck. Well, I 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: feel like being together again. The football season starting up. 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: If we're gonna start with one position, we gotta go 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: the most important position. We gotta go to the quarterback position. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: I thought i'd rip off my top five quarterbacks as 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: we head into the season. I'm sure you will agree 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: with every single one. Of course, that's what I do. 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: All right, let's roll it up here. Number five for me, 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: Number five quarterback inter the season, Russell Wilson. I put 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: him there. This is somebody we talked about. Fabreeze. A 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: fabreeze quarterback. All that make all that stint go away. 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: That's what Russell Wilson does. His ability to create plays 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: make things happen. The play that's called. He can execute that, 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: but it's what he does when the play breaks down 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: and you see that second play that Russell Wilson can create, 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: like you see here the magic he brings. He's number 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: five on my list. We get to number four on 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: my list. It's like I'm going with all point guards here. 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson lill understand number four unless Drew Brees. I 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: don't care how old Drew Brees is. He still performs 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: at a high level. Buck. You talk about somebody deals 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: and accuracy, anticipation, touch, poise. He checks all those boxes. 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Doesn't have a huge arm, doesn't necessarily need to the 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: way he plays the game. So he comes at number 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: four for me. Number three, let's go to Philadelphia, Carson Wentz. 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: I know you like to say that Doug Peterson won 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl. When I get it, he did a 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: nice job. But to get him in position to win 37 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl, I go, Carson Wentz. I thought he 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: was having an m v P type year. He can 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: do everything, and I love early on in camp we're 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: seeing him, although not a full participate man, he looks 41 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: great out there, Buck, I mean, he looks good. Whenever 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: you look at him, you see him running around, he 43 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: looks like he is on Scharedule. He's altos in play. 44 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: He's number three. Now we get to number two and one. 45 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: This was the challenge trying to separate these two guys. 46 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: I ended up going with the goat greatest of all time, 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: but not greatest for that's Tom Brady. And look at 48 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: the try and say, is there a slippage in his game? 49 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: Not a lot of evidence that there's been slippage in 50 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: his game. Uh. The only thing that separates him from 51 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: my number one guy probably would be mobility. But tom Brady, 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: still operating an efficient level, gets the ball out of 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: his hands progressions. His ability to work through progressions is masterful, 54 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: better than anybody else in the league in that regard. 55 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he does a great job of picking you apart. 56 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: He can quickly identify what you're doing, and he doesn't 57 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: mind exploiting that weakness over and over again. I just 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: believe the way that he plays, He's so systematic in 59 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: his approach. I don't know if we ever see a 60 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: quarterback that does it as well as he does it. 61 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: In the National Football League. Man, if they would have 62 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: put the Butler in the kitchen last year. He might 63 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: have another Super Bowl? Right, Uh, then number one on 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: the list. I know he's coming off of an injury, 65 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: but still, if you tell me I got one quarterback, 66 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: you gotta go with Aaron Rodgers. There's nothing he cannot 67 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: do on a football field. You talk about elite arm 68 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: strength combined with elead accuracy, being able to put a 69 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: ball in a mailbox, That's what Aaron Rodgers does, and 70 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: then the ability to throw on the move left or right. 71 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: He's pretty special. Buck. I think he'll go down as 72 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: an as an all time great quarterback, and for me, 73 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: he's number one. Look, I can't argue with any of 74 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: the names that are included on this list and Rogers, 75 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Carson Wentz, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson. The only 76 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: thing that I would do in terms of the order, 77 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: maybe I would move Russell Wilson up to number three 78 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: ahead of Carson Winston, Drew Brees based on how he 79 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: basically single handley carry this Seattle offense. But outside of that, 80 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: the only guy, the only guy that I would say 81 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: can maybe vault up in there a little off the radar, 82 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say Jared Golf. There you go. You know, 83 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: like we talked about the young quarterback and everyone is 84 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: excited about Carson Wentz, but don't forget the guy that 85 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: was number one in that draft class earned Pro Bowl 86 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: recognition that season ago six or two of his passes 87 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: he completed seven touchdown interception ratio pass a rating of 88 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: one hundred point five. Look, this guy is only getting better. 89 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Second season with Sean McVeigh. I think he could go 90 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: fort in yards. I think this offense is going to 91 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: continue to move towards the Jared Goff offense. And even 92 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: though they have Todd Girl and they paid him big money, 93 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: I think eventually we'll see Jared Golf become the driving 94 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: force of this offense. You've got Ali Frasier, You've got 95 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: Magic and Bird and then for for Bucky and myself, 96 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: I think it's hashtag Wentz versus Golf right with and 97 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: we're still I have went You say I'm a little 98 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: high on Wentz and you said don't have Golf. That 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: we're having the same argument we had. I just im 100 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: just want to guy to get some recognition. I mean, 101 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: we got Wentz up there, We've we've annoyed him and 102 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and rightfully so. But hey, Golf Golf 103 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: is right there for number one pick. He has certainly 104 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: kind of lived up to it. Second year was exactly 105 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: what we expected him to be. That's our that's our 106 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: Ali Frasier Golf. All right, how about let's get to 107 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: see me on the quarterbacks. Hit me up with your 108 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: top three rookie quarterbacks. Here we go. We can count 109 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: it down from three to one. Let's go Baltimore. Lamar Jackson. 110 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: You talked about all the excitement about Lamar Jackson. I 111 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: think he could be deserves when you talked about when 112 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: you talk to Ravens officials about Lamar Jackson, they talk 113 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: about the explosive nouts, the athleticism, the playmaking ability he has, 114 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: the arm talent. Has he been a little inconsistent in 115 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: terms of some of the placement, Yes, but those wild 116 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: plays are absolutely spectacular for an offense that has been 117 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: pedestrian for years since the last time they went to 118 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I think he gives them a little juice. 119 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: More importantly, he has pushed Joe Flacco to be a 120 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: better player. Maybe that helps that offense get off the ground. 121 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna live with some of those warm burners. You're 122 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: gonna see some war and burning. There's some ugly balls, 123 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're gonna see some of 124 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: the chunk plays, those explosive plays. Not only with the arm, 125 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: you also see that with the legs as well. It's 126 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: gonna be an exciting player. I'm with you. I think 127 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: he gets on the field, you know. Second, I'm gonna 128 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: go Sam Donald in New York. Sam Donald might end 129 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: up voting to the top of his list because he 130 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: has a really, really good chance of being the starting quarterback. 131 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: When you look at the way that he's progressed throughout 132 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: O T A s and mini camps and all that stuff, 133 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: he is trending upward, it looks like he could be 134 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: the guy that is the starting quarterback. But we both 135 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: liked him coming out of SC. I felt like his 136 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: best ability was his ability to take his game up 137 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: and notch in critical moments. I think, surrounded by a 138 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: team that has a really good defense, they're going to 139 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: need his playmaking ability. I think he delivers just enough 140 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: plays to allow this team to get over the five. 141 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: Everything I heard about Sam Donald was the progression he 142 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: made from the beginning of the off season to the 143 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: end of the off season was outstanding, and I think 144 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: you'll see the same thing once he gets rolling here 145 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: with this team, gets more comfortable with this Jets offense. 146 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 1: I think if he does start early in the season, 147 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: there'll be some rocky road there, but that's that's fine. 148 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: He's shown the middle toughness to be able to survive that, 149 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: and I think you'll see him continue to improve week 150 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: by week. And I think what you do is you'll 151 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: see him play however he plays this year, and then 152 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: the Jets will do like the Philadelphia Eagles and the 153 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: l A. Rams did. They will continue to add weapons 154 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: around him and we'll see him make a big jump 155 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: from your one to year two. But if you have 156 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: a young quarterback who's as talented as he is, go 157 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: ahead and put him on the field. Let's get the 158 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: process started so we can see exactly what we need 159 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: to support him with. All Right, we got left here 160 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: we go, Charaker. Now, Josh, I'm gonna go Josh Rosen 161 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Josh Rosen I believe will win this starting job. 162 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: At the end of training camp, when you hear the 163 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: veteran players talk about how comfortable he was in the offense. 164 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: You talked to the officials in the coaches, they talk 165 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: about Josh Rosen just gets It's a natural game for him. 166 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: It just kind of fits how he thinks, how he processes. 167 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: Then you add in the armed talent. I just believe 168 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: he is going to be a star in this league. 169 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching him play. I think he's 170 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: going to be the guy who has the biggest impact 171 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: as a rookie quarterback. Yeah, and look, it's he's either 172 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: gonna win the job outright or you just sit and 173 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: wait three weeks, what two weeks? Three weeks? How long 174 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: before the same Bradford injury comes? Man, I don't want 175 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: to see it happen. I don't wish anything bad on 176 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: the guy, but that's just the history there. Josh Rosen 177 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: is gonna get on the field. He is going to 178 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: get on the field. I think the big thing is 179 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: you want to get him on the field with d 180 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: J two k uh. David Johnson is the guy that 181 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: could have a thousand Russian and receiving I want to 182 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: take advantage of those skills. And then with Larry Fitzgerald 183 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: and the twilight of his career, Chris and Kirk coming 184 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: into the game. I want to get all those pieces 185 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: on the field. Listen, he would do. I know the 186 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: offensive line is a little bit of a question mark, 187 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: but let's see what Josh Rose gonna do. I think 188 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: he can sleep it well. We've talked about it so 189 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: much on our show. Year two for these quarterbacks is 190 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: what matters, and to me, I want to get year one. 191 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: Get some experience so that year two were ready to 192 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: rock and roll. Take that twenty million off the books 193 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: from Sam Bradford. Go get some more weapons to help 194 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen and don't spoil the prime here of David Johnson. 195 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: So to me, get Josh Rosen up and running. You 196 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: have a chance to be a really strong ball club 197 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, but you gotta take care of that here. 198 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: All right, nice work there on the rookie quarterbacks. Time 199 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: now for our Rookie Reports presented by castro Lade. You're 200 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna do this every week, Buck tracking some of the 201 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: top rookies and the buzz we're hearing on him. Uh 202 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: start us off here with Darius Guys. So I saw 203 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: I got the first carry there for the Washington Redskins. 204 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna win this job. As he has to win 205 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: his job. Look, they got a gift in the second 206 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: round in Darius Guys. Darius Guys, he's a big time player. 207 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: We thought he was a first round talent all day. 208 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: I still continue to believe that he's a guy that 209 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: can be an impact player right away for the Washington Redskins. 210 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: He's big, he's physical, he's tough, he runs through contact, 211 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: does a great job a getting to the second level, 212 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: and he still has the home run speed that you 213 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: look for. Darius Guys is going to be a major 214 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: impact on this offense. And I think with Alex Smith 215 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: at quarterback, you think about the impact the Kareem Hunt 216 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: made man. Having Darius Guys in play should allow Alex 217 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: Smith to play at his best in Washington. I don't 218 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: think you'll see him do quite as much in the 219 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: passing game early on. I don't think he needs to 220 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: Chris Thompson and they can get the ball out to 221 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: the back, so they can get the ball uh to 222 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Read if he's healthy, and all signs seem to 223 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: be that he's heading in that direction, get him back 224 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: up to speed. I think you take some of that 225 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: burden away from Darius Guys. He's just gonna be your hammer. 226 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: Let him run the ball, give you a little bit 227 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: of an identity there in the ground game. Absolutely, he's 228 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna give me in a genti for his physical style. 229 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: You think about the rest and Red Skins and what 230 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: they've traditionally been able to do running the ball physical 231 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: uh controlled the line of scrimmage, and that division is 232 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: really important. That offensively you can play keep away from 233 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: those explosive offenses the division rivals have. For the Red Skins, 234 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: he is po art of their takeing their keep away strategy. 235 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: He has to be a guy that finishes maybe twelve. 236 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: I love it when we both kind of put our 237 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: chips into the table on a player and maybe it's 238 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a sleeper, maybe not a big 239 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: school guy, but Darius Leonard. We we both loved him 240 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: throughout the whole draft process South Carolina State. He ends 241 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: up going to the Colts and lo and behold, I'm 242 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: reading about Andrew Luck and his how he's doing in practice? 243 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: What that looks like? That looks great? Andrew Lux come along. 244 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: They have one interception? Who was it? Who? Who was it? 245 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: The guy in South Carolina State here, Darius Lennard made 246 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: a pick um, and look, you knew he was going 247 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: to be prominent in their plans. They're trying to play 248 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: a defense that has some of those Tampa two UH 249 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: tactics and philosophies behind it. And then you get a 250 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard, the guy that can run from sideline to sideline, 251 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: he can get down the deep middle, he can make 252 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: plays all over the field. He is the perfect building 253 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: block for that defense. I think Matt ibri Plus is 254 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: going to have a lot of fun trying to figure 255 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: out ways to create plays for Darius Leonard. It was 256 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: definitely one of my guys. Definitely nicely done. The money 257 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: drop um, give me that name more time again. Oh, 258 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Matt Ellis I like you attack that even run away 259 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: from a lot of times. I'll run away from the difficult. 260 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: That's not Bucky style right there? I dig that. Uh. 261 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about Anthony Miller with the Bears. 262 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: What what you're hearing there? What do we expect from him? 263 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: You know? DJ is funny because when we go through 264 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: the draft process, there were so many wide receivers to 265 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: look at, but this guy kept popping up. We talked 266 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: about him a lot on Path to the draft um 267 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: I got it was a former walk on kind of 268 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: made his way onto the field of Memphis. But when 269 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: you watch him on tape, he's smoothed, he's fluid, he's polished, 270 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: he's precise. It's a great job of running routes and 271 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: we have learned in this game route runners always have 272 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to make an immediate impact. We saw it 273 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: last year with Cooper Cup and some of the other guys. 274 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Jud Smith Schuster made immediate impact. Anthony Miller could be 275 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: the next young receiver that kind of comes out of 276 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: the kind of off the grid to make an impact. 277 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: His ability to maybe play the number three spot or 278 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: even number four spot in a revamped offense that is 279 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: really going to up Mitchell Drobiskie. Look for him to 280 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: kind of light it up on the outside. I'm trying 281 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: to think of a good way we can make this 282 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: catch on because I feel like we've been saying this 283 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: for a while about route runners. So why don't we 284 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: go the route runners? Uh? Kind of the greater dance sign. Uh, 285 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: where was it where I got I've got athletes. I'm 286 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna go acrobatic athletes route runners over acrobatic athletes to 287 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: make this catch because it has proven itself out. It 288 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: goes back to our our buddy Mike Thomas coming out, 289 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: who was a very refined route runners. Other guys had 290 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: some more physical talent, better athletes, make some acrobatic special plays, 291 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: but give me route runners all day long. Speaking of 292 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: route runners, another wide receiver on our our rookie report 293 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: here presented by Castro led jam On More kind of 294 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: maybe the forgotten guy among all those rookies running three 295 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: rookies there with the Green Bay Packers. Other guys got 296 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: a little more buzz than he did. But so far, 297 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: so good here for Jaman Moore, Yeah, he stepped up. 298 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: He's been on the field and running with the ones. Uh. 299 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: You think about this team, Davante Adams around the cop 300 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: coptin going to they need that third receiver. They've always 301 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: been a team that likes to play eleven personnel, one back, 302 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: one tight end, three receivers. Maybe Jamal Moore is that 303 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: third receiver to get on the field make some plays 304 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: from the outside. And we've talked about it. The Packers 305 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: have found a way to kind of create and build 306 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: up these wide receivers, guys that weren't taken in the 307 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: first round. But guys they put on the field, they 308 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: find a way to create roles for them. He is 309 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: the next one, and there's some talent to guys behind him. 310 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: But maybe, just maybe, jamal Moore has shown enough in 311 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: offseason workouts and O T A s to kind of 312 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: deserve a spot. But the number one and I We'll 313 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: see what these other wide receivers can do. They're gonna 314 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: be a fun battle there. I think the Cowboys receiving 315 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: job is probably the biggest receiving battle we have in 316 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: the league. But this Green Bay job here looking for 317 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: that third role, it's gonna be a fun one to follow. 318 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: A lot of young talent there. Jamal Moore seems to 319 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: be making the most of his opportunity early on. Right, 320 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: that was the rookie report presented by castro Edge. Let's 321 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: get back to the quarterback position here, Buck and Jimmy Garoppolo, Man, 322 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: I almost gets to the point where you had this 323 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: with with a evuations on a guy, were like, now 324 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: I really like a guy, I really like him, and 325 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: you're he he's my guy. Give me one more time? 326 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: Can I get my guy over there? Sully challenge you that. 327 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And then all of a sudden, 328 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: you feel like you're all in it, and then this 329 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: avalanche comes. Everybody come top of you over the time, 330 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: and then they start saying even they're going beyond the 331 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: words that we were using, and they take your guy. 332 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I feel like Jimmy Garoppolo has been hijacked from you. 333 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: You're on him way back and the Shrine game, and 334 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: then watched him go to the Senior Bowl. You're really 335 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: really positive on him, even had a higher grade on 336 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: him than I had on him. But then you go 337 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: when you watch him in New England, you see the flash, 338 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: you see the efficiency, the effectiveness. But then he goes 339 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: to San Francisco and you see a little bit of 340 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: the magic. Happy he joins a team that was one 341 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: in ten when he finally jumps into the start on line, 342 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: wins five straight games and and then just just get 343 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: some going. And I think the thing that is amazing 344 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: He did it without um notable playmakers on the outside. 345 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: He asks Mark, he's good. When get off Um, He'll 346 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: get pure Garson back. They now add two running back 347 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: what they had one, Jered McKinnon to go with Matt Brada. 348 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: So now they have kind of what Kyle Shanahan had 349 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: in Atlanta with Tevin Coleman and DeVante Freeman. This offense 350 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: could be better, but I'm just worried. I'm a little 351 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: concerned people talking about them going deep in the playoffs. Buck, 352 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa always Jimmy Garoppolo going to deal with 353 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: the new plans that defensive coordinated threw at him before 354 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: there was not any film on him in terms of 355 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: playing in Kyle Shanahan's system. How does he evolve as 356 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: these defenses begin to change and throw different looks at 357 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: him now that they know where his sweet spots are 358 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to working within Kyle shanahan system. I 359 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: think he does fit beautifully in Kyle Shanahan's system. I 360 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: like his skill set. I think he's gonna be a 361 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: good player. I think this team could be an eight 362 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: nine win type team eight No one. But but I 363 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: just feel like the expectations now, It's like everybody's expecting 364 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: him to go out and throw forty yards and do this, 365 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: this and this. I'm like, man, let's rain that in 366 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: a little ben here no no, no, see, because see 367 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: here's here's what happens Nowaday when they signed that one 368 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: hundred and all best are off and we can say, look, 369 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,119 Speaker 1: they're signed him more on the projection and the potential 370 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: and what could be down the line. But once the 371 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: ink drives on that contract, he is viewed as a 372 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback and everyone's going to have that expectation, 373 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: even though really he's a little more than a glorified 374 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,119 Speaker 1: rookie based on the number of stars and the repetitions 375 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: that he's had in the National Football League. I'd be 376 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: like Buck, That'd be like us after what podcast number five? Hey, 377 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: all in we get that damnag sack money right now, 378 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: get a damage shape money, get a little uh a 379 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: little webby a podcast, then get get get podcast awards 380 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff like that's that's what should 381 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: be coming. We're ready for that. I love that. All right, 382 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: Let's let's keep things moving here. Had a chance to 383 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: go out to Pack twelve media day. We did this 384 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: last year, was a big success. Got a chance to 385 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: go back this year. You see behind us here, Jake Browning, 386 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Herm Edwards, Justin Herbert, one of the top quarterbacks in 387 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: the country. They've got a chance to talk to all 388 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: those guys and many many more. Always learned stuff at 389 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: this learn stuff from the players and about their personalities 390 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: and their backgrounds. Buck, But I love talking with these 391 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: coaches and I love talking with the coaches. I think 392 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: it's a graduate level um class in football football one 393 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: on one, too on one, whatever you wanna call it, 394 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: to sit with Chris Peterson and Chip Kelly and Herm 395 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: Edwards and David Shaw and to kind of find out 396 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: what they're learning about the game, how they're continue to 397 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: evolve as it relates to coaching the game and putting 398 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: schemes in and concepts and leadership and leading young in 399 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: and building teams. All of that stuff was fascinating. Love 400 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: talking to the players, but there's nothing like getting ten 401 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes of just unfiltered conversation with coaches. And 402 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: I thought that really did a nice shot open up 403 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: for us to uh you can check out if you 404 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: missed it the previous podcast episode. We run a lot 405 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: of that sound there from those coaches. And if you're 406 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: if you're watching this right now, we're gonna run a 407 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: little best of We're gonna show you kind of a 408 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: condensed version of the best of Pack twelve Media Day. 409 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: If you're listening, though, you can get a little bit 410 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: longer version. So if you're way just right now and 411 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: you you're hungry for a little bit more, you go 412 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: check out the audio podcast. You go to Apple Podcasts, 413 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, slas podcast, you can check that out. 414 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: But here is our best of PAC twelve Media Day 415 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: All Right, joined by U c l A head coach 416 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly coach. How you doing, I'm good, I'm good. 417 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Just my favorite day. Yeah, you love Media Day. I'm 418 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: a big fan. It's it's uh, it's entertaining. Well, we're 419 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: gonna take you in a different direction here because we're 420 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: going to actually talk football. I was doing. I was 421 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: actually calling a game. Was New Mexico in Mexico State? 422 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: And what New Mexico I'm the week leading up to it, 423 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't know why I hadn't paid attention to what 424 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: they've been doing in New Mexico. Freaking unbelievable, what they've 425 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: done from the gun. And then during that week talk 426 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: to coaching staff and they're like, yeah, you know, Chip 427 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: had had just rolled through there. So I'm fascinating to 428 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: know what you were studying during your time away. How 429 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: did New Mexico lead the nation and rushing no question, 430 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: what is Bob doing? You know? So it was fun. 431 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: I spent time there. I went to A and M 432 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: to see Kevin someone Um. I went to Maryland to 433 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: see DJ Durkin. I went to Virginia to see Bronco. 434 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: I spent a couple of is with coach cut Clifford 435 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Duke Um. I went to the Naval Academy to see 436 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: Ken So I was selective in terms of where I went, 437 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: but there was always a reason. So I wanted to 438 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: see why they ran the ball as well as they 439 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: ran the ball, and how they were so explosive in 440 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the run game in New Mexico, and then you know 441 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: there there was different things everywhere I went, but it 442 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: was just it was kind of fun. You know, you 443 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: get to go around and kind of you know, you 444 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: had no motive. I wasn't trying to play them. I 445 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to get anything from them. They were a 446 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: lot more open and receptive and and and I really 447 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Anybody else with McVeigh has been any fascination 448 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: with with I spent some time with Sean this uh 449 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: since I got here, because obviously he's with in l 450 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: a Sore. We've gone to dinner a few times and 451 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Top Football, and he's done a hell of a job. 452 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: I think how he developed Jared. You know, you see 453 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Jared from one year to the next year, like wow, 454 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: and what's the You know, obviously Jared mature the difference 455 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: between being a year one quarterback in the NFL a 456 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: year two. But I think the way Sean coaches and 457 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: and puts them in such good situations, it's really impressive 458 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: to watch. How frustrating is it for you? And not 459 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: naming any of those guys you watched, but I go 460 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: to high school practice, and I'll go to different college practice, 461 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: NFL practice. The inefficiency makes me want to pull my 462 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: hair out. I can't imagine what it does to you 463 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: just seeing it's hard how some of this gets operated. 464 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: It's hard. Sometimes run a place, sit around, talk five 465 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: minutes running. It drives me crazy. I went to I 466 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: used to go to the Patriots all time. When I 467 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: was at New Hampshire and coach Barcelves was the head coach, 468 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: and that Will Grow was the defensive coordinator and now 469 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: was coaching the linebackers and was explaining something to him, 470 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: and Bill looks over at me and he goes, hey, 471 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: Chip how long has all been talking to him? And 472 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm an assistant at New Hampshire and I'm like, like, 473 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: I didn't know he remembered my name, and I was like, 474 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: and he goes, how long has he been talking to him? 475 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: And I go on, like two or three minutes and 476 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: Bill ripped al Grow. He goes, Hey, what time are 477 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: meetings and he goes there at seven thirty tonight. He goes, then, 478 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: don't have one on the field. Get those guys moving, 479 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: and then al Grow looks at me and I'm like, sorry, 480 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: like I didn't mean it you out at him. But 481 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: one of the things you learned from coach barselves is 482 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: that you better be a fishing and when you're on 483 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: the field, you're on the field of practice. You not 484 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: on the field to talk. And when you watch some 485 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: of these guys only want to do do is talk. What 486 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: you do it in the meeting room. One of my 487 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: favorite things you did it up at Oregon. I had 488 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: never receive it before, and maybe you got I don't 489 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: know where you got it from. But just even like 490 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: Pattent Go, you guys are going through Pattent Go on 491 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: the way back to the line you had like g 492 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: a set up there and you're getting a little released 493 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: drill for the wide receivers as they were getting back 494 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: into the line where you come up with this stuff. 495 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: We're just trying to be efficient. So we do we 496 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: do patent go on one side, we do a curled 497 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: rout on the other side. Um And then they got 498 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: to get releases on both sides. And then when they 499 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: go behind the quarterback, they've got to learn how to 500 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: make a forty five degree cut with a ball in 501 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: their hand off the running back. So how do you 502 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: make that drill more efficient? It's a three minute drill, 503 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: But when it turns into just eye jog half speed 504 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: with my gloves hanging off my face mask and the 505 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks not taking a drop and lamming them up, it's like, 506 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: why are we practicing if that's what we're gonna do. 507 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: So we just how do we take the same drill 508 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: and make it as quickly and as efficient as possible? 509 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Um In that's all we're trying to do, all right there, 510 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: Arizona State head coach term matters coach, How you doing? 511 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm well? How you doing? I'm doing great? Holding up? Okay, 512 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: we're powering through. You know a lot of work. You 513 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: know this is yeah, But the problem with TV it's 514 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: like one minute and you wait ten minutes. You guys 515 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: really gotta work this week. That's what I enjoy. You 516 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: guys running around and nervous. So I'm gonna get my 517 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: wife today, was like, you gotta really do really. I 518 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: told you I had a story for you off off 519 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: camera here when I when I was out between the 520 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and the and the Eagles, I came to 521 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: some stuff at ESPN and I was gonna go, had 522 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: me going outside the lines, uh bobbly and you you 523 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: were there and you introduce yourself to me, and I 524 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: learned at that point in time which I did not 525 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: know about your scouting background. Everybody knows about you with 526 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: your coaching background, but we sat there and chopped it 527 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: up about the scouting background. Don't know people know that 528 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: side of you coach. While I came into league as 529 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: a scout and was fortunate enough to be around a 530 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: great man he's passed away named Whitey Duvall and Mark Hatley, 531 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: and I cut my teeth and scouting and scouted for 532 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: about two years and got in the car and drove 533 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: out for about a month and a half and went 534 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: to eight states and went to every school imaginable. And 535 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of ironic because I was chess up at 536 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: Tahoe with coach Payton and he was working at in 537 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: college at visit San Diego State. But no, he was 538 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: in in uh in Illinois, a little small division to school, 539 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: and I came through there, right, So it's i kind 540 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: of ironic when you think about my scouting tree, I goes. 541 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, I met a lot of these guys and 542 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: they were young coaches and coaching Notre Dame. He was 543 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: that in Illinois at another little school and he had 544 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: a running back and I had visited his campus. So 545 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of ronny because you know, football connects a 546 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: lot of people in a a lot of different ways. Been great, 547 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: no question, But how about your scouting background, uh, in 548 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: terms of helping you now in this role with this job, 549 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: is that you carry over a little bit in terms 550 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: of valuating the high school kids. I know it's a different, 551 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: different level, it's different, but um, I think what people 552 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: don't realize is when you get in the world of television, 553 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: um and and my world was really simple. You have 554 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: to evaluate college players, whether you like it or not 555 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: because that's the life but of NFL question. And so 556 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: when you flip it and you ask yourself, well, what 557 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: about college? Well, I visited a lot of college campuses. 558 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: One as he span now, I was fortunate enough to 559 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: coach Underarmy game. So I got the kids in high 560 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: school before some of them became freshman in college. Two 561 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: of the players are on my team now Cabriel are 562 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: center and to kill Henry so I had him in 563 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: the All Star Game at the Undarmed Game. So it 564 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: all came around, comes around that, it all comes around. 565 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: All right, we're here with our good friend, Mannie Wilkins. 566 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: I feel like, man, we just saw each other like 567 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: a week ago at probably have been long at all, Man, 568 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: I think you've got a little more growth though in 569 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: the beard. Yeah, grow hair like a freaking what are 570 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: they called chia pet? You don't even know what chip pet. 571 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: Week one, you guys are home ut s A and 572 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: then you got Michigan State rooming through there. When does 573 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: that preparation begin? Have you already started taking the pretties? 574 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: So at the beginning of the time I learned this 575 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: from coach and a pier Um. At the beginning of 576 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: the summer. Man, I just I don't want to flood 577 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: myself with football, you know, because you've gotta have a 578 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: little bit of a mental break from the game for 579 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, um. So you know, I had a 580 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a mental break after the bowl game, um, 581 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: and then after a certain amount of time each week 582 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: now that we've been in the summer, I have, like 583 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: where I watched, you know, the first six plays of 584 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: a game on one day. Then the next day I'll 585 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: watch and then I'll just start, you know, just drawing 586 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: up their defensive fronts, the way the defense looks in 587 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: the back end, all those things, and just get a 588 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: visual on my head so that when we really start 589 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: game playing and when the season comes around, I've already 590 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: done three scouting reports each on each team because I've 591 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: been doing it all some All right. Buck joined the 592 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Oregon State head coach Jonathan Smith and uh coach first 593 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: year here taking over this Oregon State program, a program 594 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: you know quite well. I love to know just what 595 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: was the first message to the team when when you 596 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: walk into me the team for the first time. Well, 597 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: I tell my story a little bit like like you said, 598 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: I've been here. This is a great place I had 599 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: great memories here. I'm fired up to be here and 600 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: get to know those guys and build some trust. Um. 601 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was important because I didn't get to 602 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: go through the recruit process with the current roster, sitting 603 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: their homes, meet their parents, all those things to build 604 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: a relationship. And so from the get go, it's been 605 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: a little bit about you know, me and myself, my story. 606 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: This place is great, it's great times. They've been great again. 607 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: We are We asked a lot of coaches were always 608 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: fastening with the quarterback position. At the NFL level, you 609 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: kind of go as your quarterback goes, and it's pretty 610 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: much the same at every level of football. Last year 611 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: we asked a bunch of coaches about what you look 612 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: for when you're recruiting a quarterback. This year, we're kind 613 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: of going along the lines and once you get him 614 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: on campus, what's the developmental plan at that position when 615 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: you bring somebody in, Well, I think it really it 616 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: starts at the foundation level, like they've got to be 617 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: able to know the place, they've got to be able 618 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: to draw him and not in kind of second guess, Okay, 619 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: is this guy running this route? What's he doing? He's 620 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: got to know that stuff. And then the next piece 621 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: for me, and again I've been coaching quarterbacks a long time, 622 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: is really, well, how is he going to go navigate 623 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: to find the open guy? And so how are you 624 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: teaching him to Whether you're saying you're gonna start with 625 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: this route, go to the second route, or you're keen 626 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: the defender, what type of read are you getting there? 627 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: So some type of avenue do you find the open 628 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: open guy? Uh? And so once they get past those 629 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: first two steps, then you get into greater detail of 630 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: the intricacy. Okay, this coverage probably not this you know, 631 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: all those kind of things that deep dive into it, 632 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: but they got foundationally know where guys are going and 633 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: how I'm going to navigate to find the open guy. 634 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: So as a play caller, uh, year, play callers talk about, uh, 635 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: do I need to change my offense to really better 636 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: serve the quarterback? Do I look at his talents and 637 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: then make sure the plays fit his eye? How do 638 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: you go about that process determining how do I need 639 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: the call of the game to help him be at 640 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: his best? I think that starts with the communication of 641 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: the and and talking to the quarterback and like what 642 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: you're comfortable with, because if you're not continually talking with 643 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: the guy, you might think a scheme is really good, 644 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: he's doing it well. You don't totally know unless you're 645 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: asking it. And so a lot of times the quarterback 646 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: come Thursday that week, we'd sit down, Hey, here's the plan. 647 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: What do you like? What do you really don't like? 648 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the last three years with Jake Brownie, it 649 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: was always on Thursday. Okay, Hey, these are third down calls? 650 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: Which one do you like best? Are you good with these? 651 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: And so you know he feels comfortable with the stuff 652 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: because I all, the end of the day, you call 653 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: it play. You don't know what you're gonna get on defense. 654 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: But I know if the quarterbacks comfortable, if they show 655 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: something different, well he still knows where to go with 656 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: the ball. So I think it starts with that communication. 657 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: Senior quarterback Take Browning here for the Washing Huskies, one 658 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: of the most accomplished quarterbacks in the country. Look forward 659 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: to our chat last year. I really enjoyed it. Jake, 660 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us again this year. Yeah, thanks for 661 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: having me again. What are some of the things that 662 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: you can work on to take your game to the 663 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: next level, I think not falling into that chap, but 664 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: trying to take on too much. So I think that's 665 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: that's something I kind of struggled with a little bit 666 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: last year, is trying to take on too much. And uh, 667 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, you got a lot, you got plenty going 668 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: on as a quarterback. You don't need to take on 669 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: anything else. And and so just knowing your responsibilities, knowing 670 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: your reads and doing those exactly and trying to, you know, 671 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: do your job the best. You can not really worry 672 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: about necessarily if everyone else is doing their job. Just 673 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: here's your job. Do your job with the coaches, you know, 674 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: work everything else out. How hard is that's it's been 675 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: a law of tips start. You kind of know the offense, 676 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: you've been there, you had a lot of success, and 677 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: you can feel when things are kind of out of sync. 678 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: How hard is it to kind of rain yourself back 679 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm gonna let the coaches do what 680 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: they do and I'm gonna focus on my job. Yeah, 681 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's hard just because you know, 682 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: I think every quarterback that's been able to play the 683 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: high level, you've got a little bit of control freaking 684 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: you a little bit and so, uh, you know that 685 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: that's definitely hard to just pull the reins off a 686 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: little bit. I think, you know, there'll still be times. 687 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: But if I don't think it's going around, I'm definitely 688 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: say something. I'm not shying away from confrontation or anything 689 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, as far as you know 690 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: such and such as kind of you know, dragging this practice, 691 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spend a ton of my energy trying 692 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: to push that guy's like, you know, they got coaches, 693 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: they got you know, our coaches are making a lot 694 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: of money. They can they can figure that out. What 695 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: are the quarterbacks? Have you studied? Uh? So our quarterback 696 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback coach last year at the Falcons Bush was 697 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: Push Hampton. He's an offensive coordinator now, so I've studied 698 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: him a little bit. Uh checked out Appolo a little bit, 699 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: just because he's kind of the new name. What you 700 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: see when you when you watch Jimmy, Uh, you know, 701 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm more just kind of was watching the scheme a 702 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: little bit, but obviously really accurate, really good, his feet, 703 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: got good mechanics, kind of throws similar to to Tony Romo, 704 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of the close French shoulder hold. The 705 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: hand in a little bit. Uh, But definitely he was 706 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: more just I was more curious. So the main one 707 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: was Matt Ryan and kind of how he he uh, 708 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: he went through the offense because you know, similar stuff 709 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: going on a little bit and just you know, a 710 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: lot of the new stuff that we have is from 711 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: them a little bit. And you know, every offensive coordinator 712 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: brings the wrinkles. How tough is it for you as 713 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and you do have a guy that could 714 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: be going into the draft to hear all the outside noise, 715 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: people talk about your game, people talk about where you 716 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: could be or whatever. How hard is it to focus 717 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: on I'm just gonna play and let it play out 718 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: the way it does. Yeah, I think the hardest time 719 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: is when you know, when you're doing media day and 720 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: you get asked out a bunch. So but I can 721 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: honestly say that I'm not thinking about it a lot. 722 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Coach Pets told us a ton he's like the guys 723 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: that are always thinking about the NFL way too much 724 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: during the senior year. The football God's kind of just 725 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: never goes as well as they wanted to. And it 726 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: is kind of true. You always hear about, you know, 727 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: such and such, was gonna be a first round draft 728 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: pick all that, and then you know it's kind of 729 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: has an underwhelming senior year. And I don't think I'm 730 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: necessarily being projected to be a first round draft pick 731 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: by any means. I'm not saying that, but you know, 732 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: I definitely am not. It's not like everyone's patting me 733 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: on the back necessarily and that stuff. So I'm not 734 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: paying attention to it. And if I did, it was 735 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: probably just be motivation. Last question for me, who's the 736 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: best basketball player on the football team? Oh, it used 737 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: to be Dante Pettish. I've seen some of his put 738 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: some of his dunks on YouTube. Yeah, gratuitous. I thought, 739 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was nice. He can jump out the gym. Yeah. Well, 740 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: what's funny is it is his buddy is one of 741 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: his best friends that we played with my sophomore years, 742 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: Connor Griffin. And so he walked on a Gonzaga and 743 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: uh playing finishing up as a basketball player, but he 744 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: was probably the best basket player. Then it was Kevin 745 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: King was was up there of than Dante. And as 746 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: far as right now, it's kind of hard to say. 747 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: We got a lot of people are pretty good no 748 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: one that's like stay necessarily the next level guy. Every 749 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: football player thinks they're great basketball, right, and so it's like, okay, 750 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: then we go actually play after the season and half 751 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: these guys can't even play and make himself sound like 752 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: Marquel folts out. Now, did you ever play with Marquel? 753 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: I never did. I don't think Markuel was when he 754 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: came there, he's gonna be the first overall pick. Kind 755 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: of before he even got there, I don't think he 756 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: was going to play pick up. He was only there 757 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: for a semester to two semesters or to two quarters. Yeah, 758 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: there he I liked him. I thought he was he 759 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: was cool. I think he would be really good, But 760 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he was coming to the I m 761 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: a to play play pick up with a bunch of 762 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: football players that are just founding the hell out all right. 763 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: Joined by Washington head coach Chris Peterson. Uh, coach, First 764 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: of all, thanks for joining us. But what's the off 765 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: season been like for you here? You get a chance 766 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: to get away at all? Yeah, we had. We had 767 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: a few weeks off here um in July and uh yeah, 768 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: by every time of year. That's my favorite part of coaching. 769 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: His the vacation time. Are you a late guy or 770 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: a beach guy? Ab solutely all those things has something 771 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: to do with water. If there's water, I'm going towards 772 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: it for sure. Last year we talked about recruiting quarterbacks 773 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: and things that you look for. This year we want 774 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: to talk about developing a quarterback um. When you get 775 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback on campus, what's kind of the process to 776 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: get them ready to inventially be a start in the 777 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: face of the program. I mean, there's no real secrets, 778 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: and so much of it is on them to just 779 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: get in that film room, get in that meeting room, 780 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: and really just becoming a chalkboard expert to start with, 781 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you have no chance on that 782 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: field when the bullets start flying unless you're like a 783 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: chalkboard expert when that thing is slowed down and you 784 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: can talk about it, because there's no time to talk 785 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: about anything when the bullets are flying. And the nice 786 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: thing about it is is we have some young quarterbacks 787 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: in there and they have the perfect role model on 788 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: how this is done. And Jake Browning because he has 789 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: never flinched or waivered from one second that he arrived 790 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: on that campus in terms of how he prepares, if 791 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: he's if he's not in class, he is in that 792 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: building somewhere doing something for football. Is there is there 793 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: a different way that that you have to teach these 794 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: guys though, In terms of talk about the board, a 795 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: lot of teams now in NFL, it's everything's just through 796 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: the iPad and everything that, even the install and stuff. 797 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: They're not putting his guys on the board as much. 798 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: Do you do it differently by the by the player 799 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: or do you just have your way of doing it well. 800 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: We just really have this strong belief, Like I'm not 801 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: an iPad computer fan for those type of things. I 802 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: believe writing crystallizes thinking, and I think guys have to 803 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: write things out and draw them out. How about note taking? Coaches, 804 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: you you get a freshman in there. Some of these 805 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: guys have never taken a note in their life, and 806 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they get thrown into a meeting 807 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: room and that most time I hear about guys don't 808 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: even bring a pen and paper in there. How do 809 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: you instruct guys just on the proper way to even 810 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: take notes. I think that's on us as coaches to 811 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: teach him how to do that. And then develop the 812 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: mental toughness two to just grind and just I mean 813 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: I I learned. We could talk about we probably don't 814 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: have time for this. But way back when I started 815 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: my coaching career, I was a gopher for the forty niners, 816 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: and it was when they were in their heyday and 817 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,479 Speaker 1: Joe Montana and Jerry Rice and all those guys were there, 818 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: and Joe Montana, I think it'd already been this m 819 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: v P of the Super Bowl a couple of times. 820 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: And so it's day one a camp, Mike Holm grins 821 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: a coordinator and I'm watching them take notes, and I'm thinking, 822 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: what is he doing? Does he? Is this a new offense? 823 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: Does he? And it was the most ah ha I. 824 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: You know, It's like, that's what the great ones do. 825 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's year ten. You the best 826 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: NoteTaker we have in the quarterback room with Jake Browning, 827 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: not the freshman like, he knows how to do that, 828 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: and so coaches need to teach that, all right, Buck. 829 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: We're joined by one of the most versatile players in 830 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: college football here, Kyle Sweet who has an interesting uh 831 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: A bio. I guess you could say it's not often 832 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: you see starting wide receiver, starting punter on the piece 833 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: of paper. But give me a good Mike Leach story. 834 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: He's about for those who can't don't know, he's about 835 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: seven feet away from us, but he can't hear you 836 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: right now. He's never gonna he's uh, yeah, he's um, 837 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: let's see. I just remember I think, did he recruit? 838 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: Did he recruit? You know he didn't because your teammate 839 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: told us he talked for three hours on his recruit. 840 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that could have I'm glad that was avoided. 841 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: But so I was a freshman fall camp, never been 842 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: to fall camp before. Just I'm like, all right, I 843 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: just needed to do my thing. And I was freaking 844 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: out a little bit. And he comes up to me. 845 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: The first thing he's ever said to me, um was hey, 846 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: you're from Orange County, right, And I said yeah. He said, 847 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: do you know anyone on Real Housewives County? And I 848 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: just said, you know, and I'm just gonna mess around 849 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: this day. I said, yeah, actually my my aunt was 850 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: on that and he goes, oh really, And he just 851 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: started talking about what he thought about the show, you know, 852 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: who was his favorite. But I was like, I get 853 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm not related to anyone that. Al Right, Buck joined 854 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: by Washington State head coach Mike Leach, and we're looking 855 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: at the NFL tape. A lot of times we use 856 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: the phrase, we use a phrase, where's waldo? So look 857 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: at the NFL tape and you'll see, Okay, they're gonna 858 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: find out who that weak point is on the defense 859 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: and they're gonna isolate him repeatedly in space, whether it's 860 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: in coverage or at the point of attack. They find 861 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: that waldo when you're breaking down an opponent. Is there 862 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: is there anything similar to that where you're trying to say, Okay, 863 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna this is the dude we're gonna go after here. Yeah, 864 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: there's some of that, you know, like, uh, there's some 865 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: of that. We we tend to do it. H you know, 866 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: more scheme wise, like as in these type of plays 867 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: give them a bad time and that's because of a 868 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: wal door two in the mix there. Um, you know 869 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: one thing in the NFL and it would be fun 870 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: to do, is you know they get they basically get 871 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: the photographs or the facts is after you. Yeah, you 872 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: can literally circle the guy on that. You go up 873 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: a target, you put a target that got no him 874 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: right there there he is right there, and then and 875 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: then and then the guy in the speaker in the headset, 876 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: you'll say, remember that guy right there, No the other one, 877 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: you know. Um, So it's funny that you bring it 878 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: up because everyone is studying somebody, um NFL guys, and 879 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: now after years kind of poop into college game, we're 880 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: not finding more NFL teams still in place from the 881 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: collegiate level. As a college coach, do you look at anybody? 882 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: Are there teams or coordinators or schemes that you look 883 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: at to see if you can add to what you 884 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: already do anybody that's kind of throwing the ball. But 885 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: the fact is, and and uh, well some in the 886 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: NFL flat out and embrace it. But then um, uh 887 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL pretends, you know that they haven't 888 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: changed this the Bologna. I mean, uh, the NFL has 889 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: change a lot more than college has in the last 890 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: ten years. And and uh, you know, just asked the 891 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 1: New England Patriots and the Philadelphia Eagles how it works, 892 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: because um, um, you know, thousand yards of offense and 893 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: this well I've got I've got filmed from Iowa Wesleyan 894 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: College that looks early similar to the Philadelphia Eagles and 895 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and um and and now they're 896 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: filmed back when uh they had different coaches and of 897 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: course but um uh it doesn't look anything like that. 898 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: Iowa Wesley and film, I can tell you that right now. 899 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: Al right, Buck, we're joined by one of the top 900 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the country, Oregon's Justin Herbert. Justin. We got 901 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: a chance to visit with you last year and you 902 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: went out and missed some games with with injury. But 903 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't know when you walked over here, I told Buck, Yes, 904 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, you put out twenty pounds since 905 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: we saw you here last year. May look huge. Appreciate 906 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: that pounds of of muscle. But uh, with the with 907 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: the new strength staff we had, it's it's it's been 908 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: really easy. They've done a great job. And dude with 909 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: the handlebar mustache has got you, got you going up 910 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: there strength. He's done a great job. What are you so? 911 00:39:53,960 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: What are you we in right now? About like fifteen yeah, 912 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: to fifteen to twenty That's what I'm saying. Man, went 913 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: through adulthood and the wind. What you've been doing this 914 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: offseason and besides eating weights, throwing, throwing the football as 915 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: much as I can. Just going out there with with 916 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: our guys is has has been awesome. Brendon schooler, Johnny Johnson, 917 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: Delan Mitchell thrown with them as much as I can, 918 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: build in time with them. And we kind of have 919 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: to bring up the obvious thing, like there's been a 920 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: lot of conversation about you potentially, uh playing at the 921 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: next level, how do you juggle the expectations and and 922 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: kind of the height that goes along with NFL stuff, 923 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: with trying to stay focused on just being the best 924 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: play that you can be at Oregon. It's a huge 925 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: honor for sure, um, but I don't want to. I 926 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 1: don't want it to take away from the team because 927 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 1: I think that's what's most important. And I think about 928 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: the guys on a team. I think about a guy 929 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: like Cam McCormick and and Jake Breland, who who are 930 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: some of my best friends, and and uh, I don't 931 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to take away from them because I 932 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: wanted to be all about the team and they deserve 933 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: my best just like I deserve their best. You put 934 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: any kind of a timetable on that at all in 935 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: term of when you're gonna even think about that or 936 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: approach that subject. I really haven't spent too much time 937 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: thinking about it, honestly. Um, I'm sure that's something that 938 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: I'll think about when the time comes. But um, we'll 939 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: across that bridge when it comes. This is my last 940 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: question because I'm just curious. You've added all this weight. 941 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: It looked great. You've run around and make a lot 942 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: of plays with your legs. Have you been able to 943 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: maintain your athleticism and your speed with all this weight 944 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: you've had it? That's yeah, that's something that uh, the 945 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: new strength of with coach feld has has done a 946 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: great job. If we we kept track of like our 947 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: miles per hour at our top forty speed and and 948 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: uh increased by a couple of miles per hour. So 949 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: it's it's been really fun to be a part of 950 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: and and excited to get back there and keep working 951 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: all right. Joined by one of the biggest wide receivers 952 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna see here, J j R. Sega Whiteside from 953 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: Stanford going into a senior year. J How you doing? Man? 954 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: Happen to basketball? Both your parents played pro basketball? Like, like, like, 955 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: what happened? How did you miss out on the family business. 956 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: So they it was funny because it was kind of 957 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: like a running joke, but it wasn't really a joke 958 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: because it was serious. Um that I would get twenty 959 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: dollars if I didn't fall out of a basketball game, 960 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: and I got maybe like sixty dollars after twenty games 961 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: single one. You got him, use him exactly. That's what 962 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Who are some of the NFL guys that 963 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: you may look at or patting your game after um, 964 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: when you think about how you can improve, Um, it's 965 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: always been Steve Smith. Uh, that's our colleague. Yeah, I 966 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: love him to do. He might not remember me, but um, 967 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: when I was at the Carolina Panthers uh seven on 968 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: seven with my high school he pulled me to the 969 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: side and taught me how to run routes and also 970 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: gave me a bunch of his gloves. Actually got pickture 971 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: to that too. I'll show it to you guys later, 972 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: but he um he Ever since then, I was like, yeah, 973 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: I gotta I've always been a Carolina Panthers fan, and 974 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: I was playing receiver. I'm like, yeah, I want to 975 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: be like him. All right, Buck, We're joined by our 976 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: good buddy here Stanford head coach David Show coach, how 977 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: you doing? Trying to piggyback on what we talked about 978 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: last year. Last year we talked about what you look 979 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: forward you're recruiting or evaluating quarterbacks. I kind of want 980 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: to spend it forward this year and asking everybody about 981 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 1: what you do once they get on campus in terms 982 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: of developing the quarterback because that's a huge aspect of 983 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: this whole deal, not just being able to evaluate them, 984 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: but get them on campus and develop them. Is there 985 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of is there a formula you've had that you 986 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: followed going through the process of developing these guys individual 987 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: Does it change? So it's what we've gotten a lot 988 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: of praise for and caught a lot of flak on. 989 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: And when the people that want to give us flax 990 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: say why is your offense so hard? You know, always 991 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: say freshmen can't come in and play. Why is your 992 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: offense so hard? And I said, it's not that the 993 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: offense is hard, is that we're teaching guys that don't 994 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: know football how to play football. We're teaching them how 995 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: to solve the problems at the position, as opposed to 996 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: look to the sidelines and have me solve it. For 997 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: we want to teach these guys fronts and coverages and 998 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: blitz schemes and combinations. And then at the same time, 999 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: once they understand the defensive saide, okay, how do we 1000 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: change the protection to pick up those blitzes and then 1001 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: take advantage of the holes that are left in the 1002 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: zone blitz schemes or handle or a manded man routes 1003 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: versus zone routes and where your eyes should be. And 1004 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: that takes a long time for these guys to learn 1005 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 1: in particularly if they don't learn it in high school. 1006 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: If they're a spread team in high school, which God 1007 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: bless anybody that runs a spread offense. I don't have 1008 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: any issue with that at all. But for us, we 1009 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 1: we don't. I want our guys to have run progressions. 1010 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: I want them to be able to read coverage. Doesn't 1011 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: want them to change plays. Uh, And now they feel 1012 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 1: like they can play the game now there Now it's 1013 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: them against the defensive coordinator, not just me against the 1014 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. So we teach the guys how to play. 1015 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: So for us, we get a quarterback in. They gotta 1016 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: learn the fronts, the defensive fronts, they gotta learn the 1017 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: blitz schemes and the possibilities and now who are the 1018 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: viable blitzers and if they do come, who do we 1019 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: do against them? And now how does that fit with coverage? 1020 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: So we're teaching these guys football so that they can 1021 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: be proficient at the position. And it's not just throwing it. 1022 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: It's but it's seeing and anticipating get the ball out 1023 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: of your hands on time, and then being accurate and 1024 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 1: having a strong enough farm and all those things. Um, 1025 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: but we we want to teach the guys the game 1026 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: before they have to play the game. Is there why 1027 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: it's so hard for young gout to come in and 1028 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: play right away? For you guys, because you are putting 1029 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: so much on them when it comes to learning and 1030 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: understanding and the ownership that they have of their offense 1031 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: when they're really driving out, no question about it, no 1032 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 1: question about it. It's because it's it's it's difficult early on, 1033 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: but by the time they leave, these guys have such 1034 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: a breadth of knowledge. And you ask all the guys 1035 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: that have interviewed our quarterbacks once they've left here at 1036 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: the Combine, etcetera. I typicated text message that hey, just 1037 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: talk to your former quarterback. Oh my gosh, you know, 1038 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: he knows this game so well he's able to drop 1039 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,720 Speaker 1: your entire offense and talk about blitz schemes in different 1040 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: plays and progressions. And that's what I feel a part 1041 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: of our responsibility is not just to have them go 1042 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: out there and be good, but then understand what they're 1043 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: doing and why. Um, so they given the best chance 1044 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: to be successful with the next level because at the 1045 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: next level, if you can't see the boots coming, they're 1046 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: not gonna be around very long. Is that is that 1047 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 1: part of of like install though with them, Like do 1048 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: you have it mapped out like almost a day to 1049 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: day of Hey, we're gonna, we're gonna you're gonna learn 1050 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: these fronts. You're almost having to get your team that's 1051 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: gonna be on the field ready to go while you're 1052 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: trying to develop these younger guys along. But I mean, 1053 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: is there is there a day by day game plan 1054 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: for them in terms of what they're studying and how 1055 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: they're growing. So to a certain degree, yes, um, as 1056 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: we start, really it's the first about first four days 1057 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: of installation for us um is just great for the 1058 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: quarter but for the young quarterback and then beyond that, 1059 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 1: we keep the rest of the team going. But then 1060 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: we started to do in the last few years is 1061 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: when we have a young quarterback, the reps that they 1062 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 1: get in practice, which we slot in that they still 1063 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: get their reps in practice during training camp, but we 1064 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: keep them in that in that first four days of installation. Yeah, 1065 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: we're not going for far, and beyond that, we're trying 1066 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: to get them. You need to learn your A, B, 1067 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: C s before we started doing calculus, right, So so 1068 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: we say keep them in that so they get comfortable 1069 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: and they can feel good about what they're doing. And 1070 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: then the next time we really get after him is 1071 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: back in the off season where we reinstall things and 1072 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: go back again from the very beginning so that they 1073 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: get comfortable, they build a base, and then once we 1074 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: feel like they have a base, then we can kind 1075 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: of add to them. And that's what k J. Costela 1076 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: has been great with. kJ is one of the few 1077 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: high school quarterbacks that has been redirecting protection since he 1078 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: was a freshman. You know, he understands the schemes, he 1079 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: understands how to pick up blitz is. So he was 1080 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 1: probably a little quicker than most guys coming in in 1081 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: and even as a true freshman, still a lot for him. 1082 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: But by the end of his freshman year, getting in 1083 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: the spring, he had a really good understanding. And now 1084 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: this first his sophomore year, coming into training camp. He 1085 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: was getting in there and getting plays run and and 1086 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: and not worrying about the tory second clock. He was 1087 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: getting plays in and out. He could see things change 1088 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: a play and get the ball snapped and then had 1089 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to play. Uh. Keller got hurt and we 1090 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: throw him out there, and then it's like a fish 1091 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: jumping in water. It wasn't that deer in headlights. He's hesitating. 1092 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm ready for this. So that process 1093 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: I think was aided by his history, but I think 1094 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: the process also helped him prepare for his time to shine. 1095 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: Here with USC outside linebacker Porter gust and Porter, how 1096 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 1: you doing man? Uh doing good? Doing good. I appreciate 1097 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: you taking some time here. The first thing I gotta 1098 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: ask you is, I know, go back to your high 1099 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: school days as a picture. I remember following you kind 1100 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 1: of throw that recruiting process, and I remember the chance 1101 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: you might go go play pro baseball. Take us back 1102 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: to that decision and we just have to decide whether 1103 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: you're gonna go football or baseball. Um, yeah, you know 1104 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: at that point, and I was going to my senior year, 1105 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: and and I had already uh uh you know, had 1106 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 1: a lot of offers and talked a lot about football 1107 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: and and kind of that situation. So my mind was 1108 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: kind of set on it already. I did. I did consider, 1109 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, going and playing baseball and going that route. Um. 1110 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, however, uh you know, whether it was due 1111 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 1: to lifting weights or you know, throwing or pitching all 1112 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: those years, I did have you know, quite a bit 1113 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: of armed problems. Uh you know, like a lot of 1114 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: pictures do and and uh you know, I mean that's 1115 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: that's something that you know, you gotta consider being a 1116 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: picture because I mean they could easily ruin a career. 1117 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: And you know, it's just uh, you know, the combination 1118 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 1: of the two just kind of led me to football. Alright. 1119 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: The other question, I wanted to get some football here 1120 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: in a second, but uh, when was the last time 1121 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 1: you had some ice cream? I've just heard about this guy, 1122 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: but his nutrition and his diet and and obviously your 1123 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: work ethic in the weight room is it's kind of legendary. 1124 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: But so when was the last time you had like 1125 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 1: a sweet? Like when the last yeme had a dessert? Um? 1126 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: So I cut that out, you know, at the end 1127 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: of my eighth grade year. So it's, yeah, gotta do 1128 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: the met since the great Yeah, I haven't had one 1129 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: in like like about minutes, very similar. Yeah, you know, 1130 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: just cut out all suites and you know, give it 1131 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: a few months and of just not doing it, and 1132 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: pretty soon you're not even you know, even tempted to 1133 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: go after that anymore. I gotta adopt you and maybe 1134 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: he can be my first trainer here on the side. 1135 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: This football team gonna be like this year, what's the 1136 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: identity of this team? I mean, Sam, we covered them 1137 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: all the way through the draft last year and was 1138 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: kind of the definitely the poster child here for this 1139 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: USC program. He's gone. Now, what's the identity of this 1140 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: football team gonna be? Um, the identity is not going 1141 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: to be you know, the same Donald this year, and 1142 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: in fact, it's it's probably gonna you know, sway to 1143 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: the opposite side where we're gonna be a unit, um, 1144 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: a team you know, maybe I mean maybe not one 1145 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: you know, star player that you know, everybody's looking to 1146 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: make the big play and just relying on him to 1147 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: make the big play. But we're gonna be playing very 1148 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 1: well as a team throughout um and I think that's 1149 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: something that can can potentially help our team a lot. 1150 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: So you know, that's kind of what we gott on 1151 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: right now. And I think we're doing a good job 1152 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: of really really working together on a team on the 1153 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: on the defensive side, and an offense has some question marks, 1154 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: but we'll see when it comes into camp. But you know, 1155 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: you know how terrible the jail and you know what, 1156 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see that. So let's wrap up to 1157 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: you get yourself some ice cream. I know you're to 1158 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: get out there and have some. I appreciate your time, porter, Yeah, 1159 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you all right here at the 1160 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: USC head coach Clay Hout and coach how's it going? 1161 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 1: Doing great? Doing great football season? Here? It's the best 1162 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: time of year, isn't it. Oh, it's fun. I know 1163 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: you're probably ready for this this to be over, to 1164 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: get back on the grass here and get going. But 1165 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: one of the biggest challenges the quarterback positions. Anytime you 1166 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: you go through some of that adversity and figuring out 1167 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: how they're gonna handle that. How do you create in 1168 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: camp some adversity for these young guys. Yeah, definitely. You 1169 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: always want to see and this is where I thought 1170 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: Sam was the best I've ever seen at it Um. 1171 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: You always want that guy that's like the great picture, 1172 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: the great golfer. He makes that one swing and whether 1173 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: it was good or bad, he's moved on to the 1174 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: next play. And with eight teams to twenty one year olds, 1175 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: there's no falseness. They cannot hide that body language whatsoever. 1176 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: Uh And if anybody did say it was probably the 1177 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: best at it Um. But but that ability to have 1178 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: a bad play and move on to the next play 1179 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 1: rather than two three some guys go go, some guys 1180 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: going and tank for a quarter game. But the ability 1181 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: to be in a practice and say, you know what, 1182 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: I made it a mistake, screw it, I'm gonna learn 1183 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: from it and move on to that next play is 1184 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: a quality that all great quarterbacks have. Um. They're almost fearless, 1185 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: they almost have no conscience, no question and um, their 1186 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: ability to have that short term memory and move on 1187 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: to the next play is is very important. And and 1188 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: thank goodness, you can tell it with young people. You 1189 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: always veterans on defense. You've got some some youth on 1190 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: offense and got a lot of experience come back on 1191 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line. But outside a wide receiver and you guys, 1192 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: every it seems like every year, every other year, you're 1193 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: pumping out more and more white outs. You've got to 1194 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: power forwards out there. This year with Pitman, yeah, definitely. 1195 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: And and here's their time. I think of in years past, 1196 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: is my ninth year at SC and I think of, 1197 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh God, what happens with with you leave? So there's Markets, 1198 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: there's Marquis Martin, Lee leaves, there's Nelson Aguilar, Juju Smith, 1199 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: the other Bredett And it was great to see Mike 1200 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: and Tyler come on at the end of the season. 1201 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: Um Tyler really established himself as that number two guy. 1202 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: Has a chance to be that that premier white out 1203 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: this year at Michael Pittman Goshamdi, I'm you're talking about 1204 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: a six ft four and a half two hundred seventeen 1205 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: pound grown man. I noticed him covering kicks and he 1206 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 1: was like a freshman, I think out there because I 1207 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: remember I was just watching who is this guy is 1208 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 1: a freshman? And now I looked at his name, and 1209 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, now brings a little bit. He goes 1210 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: out in the PAC twelfth Championship games, has a hundred 1211 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: and seventy yards worth of catches, and then about ninety 1212 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: yards in the in the bowl game with a broke thumb, 1213 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: and just he's an amazing talent and it's his time. 1214 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: He's had two really good years of building himself into 1215 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 1: this player, and I'm really excited to see what he 1216 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: does in this third year. I remember coming here the 1217 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: year with Marquis and I had heard about this kid 1218 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: from Sarah High School. It was gonna be this great safety. Yeah, 1219 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: And I was out there for one of their practice 1220 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: that year. He had full extension, laid out and made 1221 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 1: a catch. I said, I don't think he's playing safely 1222 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: under the great stories. I mean, he he came to 1223 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: us and we all thought he was a man. Guys, 1224 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a first round draft pick defensive back probably 1225 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: what companies still god a bit, but he came to 1226 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: us for a passion about coach, can I just have 1227 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 1: four days to show you that I'm a wide receiver. 1228 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: It didn't take four days and took fourth place. He 1229 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: was just You're like, yeah, You're right market because you 1230 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 1: can you can go play that ain't type one? All right? 1231 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: A buck? Your your biggest takeaway there. You heard some 1232 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: some great sound there, But your biggest takeaway overall coming 1233 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: away from PAC twelve Media day, beside, you can't say 1234 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: that they didn't have the donuts this year. That was 1235 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: a little they did not have the don was a 1236 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: little disappointed in that point. Um, I would say my 1237 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway is justin Herbert jfin Herbert is going to 1238 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: fascinate a lot of NFL scouts um as a junior 1239 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: and r if he stays a senior year. The size 1240 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: he's huge, he talked about in beefing up. He he 1241 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,720 Speaker 1: talked about pinning on twenty twenty five pounds. He looks 1242 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: like a prototype now he is now prototypical quarterback. Before 1243 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: we saw like, hey he's tall, he's wherever, he's gonna 1244 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: quiet all this listen. He now looks like the prototype 1245 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: in if he's able to retain the athleticism that he 1246 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: has displayed on tape his first couple of years, there's 1247 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of NFL scouts that are excited 1248 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: about him because he has the prototypical frame with the 1249 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: athleticism and the high i Q that you look for 1250 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,959 Speaker 1: the position, easy to get excited about what he could 1251 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: be at the next level. No, that's a great one. 1252 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 1: I just think I'm excited about this conference overall. A 1253 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: lot was made about their bowl record last yearly win 1254 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 1: one bowl game. Um, you know, USC gets gets beat 1255 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: by Ohio State pretty handling. You look at we were 1256 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: at the game, we saw Penn State beat Washington, So 1257 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: I didn't really have that marquee postseason win. But when 1258 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: I get a chance to visit with these coaches and 1259 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: even some of these younger coaches like a Mario christobon 1260 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: what he's trying to build and get that Oregon program 1261 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: back up. You bring a Chip Kelly back into the conference, 1262 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: I think better days are ahead for the Pack twelve conference. 1263 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: And one thing we know, they're always gonna be quarterbacks 1264 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: chucking the rock in this conference. Absolutely to scale players. 1265 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's a place for players. Quarterbacks, 1266 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: pass catchers go. Lord, you can find ways to get 1267 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: the ball to your playmakers in the open field. We've 1268 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 1: got a bunch of trigger man and you have a 1269 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: lot of creative offensive mind. You understand how to get 1270 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,839 Speaker 1: the ball to their guys and favorable situations. Dis conferences exciting, uh, 1271 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: probably as exciting as any conference, and uh college football. 1272 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to follow these teams this year. 1273 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: Not quite as much hype as we had last year 1274 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: with all those uh time quarterbacks, when we had had 1275 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: Rosen and Donald right here in l a Um. It's 1276 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: easy to get excited when you have those guys right 1277 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: in your neighborhood. Wow, it's gonna be fun to watch 1278 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: and see what happens there in that conference as well 1279 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: as college football altogether. We have plenty of time to 1280 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: discuss what's taking place on the college football landscape here 1281 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 1: on the Move the Sticks podcast. Remember you can check 1282 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: out Moving six podcasts. All throughout the fall, we'll have 1283 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: you covered NFL college football, looking towards the draft. We've 1284 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: got all your needs covered. Fun show today, though, but 1285 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: great job. It is a fun time. Whenever we get 1286 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: together and get the real ball, I get inside the 1287 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: same building talking with ball teams are practicing. It does 1288 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: not get better than this. Remember you can check out 1289 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: the Move the Six podcast, NFL dot com, Slash podcast. 1290 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: Be sure to check out our videos NFL dot com 1291 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 1: slash mts video. Check us out on YouTube, Apple podcasts. 1292 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: We've got you covered everywhere. Thank you so much for listening. 1293 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: This has been the Move the Six podcast presented by 1294 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: castro Ledge. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel 1295 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,240 Speaker 1: Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to NFL dot 1296 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,240 Speaker 1: com Slash Podcasts