Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days
Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard
Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer
Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.
Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back to the podcast everyone.
Speaker 1: Today's the day I reached deep into the mail bag.
Speaker 1: Here the old male sack and answer your questions. So
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of great questions coming in. I
Speaker 1: hope that over the season some of these things have
Speaker 1: been helpful to you. Maybe you know I like to
Speaker 1: open up every you know, almost every podcast. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: send me your questions, send me your questions, because I
Speaker 1: really enjoy being able to answer specific questions, and I
Speaker 1: know that I get a lot of the same questions
Speaker 1: as well, So I think that the Q and A
Speaker 1: is a really good way to kind of just make
Speaker 1: sure that I'm on topic and and answering things that
Speaker 1: you guys want to know. Also, I've got a ton
Speaker 1: of good messages about just some success, so I'll just
Speaker 1: read a few here. This one comes from Kylie said,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to pass along thanks for the Glassing podcast,
Speaker 1: which was a recent podcast that we just did, He said,
Speaker 1: I listened to it last Friday on my way to
Speaker 1: set up camp for the week. Later that day, I
Speaker 1: glassed up a group of mealies that I probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have without some of your advice on bodylines that stand out.
Speaker 1: Long story short, I got the buck in that bunch
Speaker 1: opening morning on a very heavily populated public spot. Was
Speaker 1: practically sitting on them when the sun came up. Thanks man, crazy,
Speaker 1: how it helped have a great winter Kyle and Kyle
Speaker 1: sent me a picture of the buck in his backpack,
Speaker 1: and it is a great buck. Good workman, love seeing
Speaker 1: that stuff. Another one came in from it, says, hey,
Speaker 1: Remy been an avid listener to the podcast for the
Speaker 1: last few months, keeping my spirits high and learning all
Speaker 1: that I can for this fault. Was fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: connect on beautiful CU's buck using some techniques I learned
Speaker 1: from your podcast. I'm off on a late season cow
Speaker 1: hunt next week and hope to put more of your
Speaker 1: tips to use. Thanks Zef. He sent in a picture
Speaker 1: of a really nice cus deer buck. So it's awesome
Speaker 1: to me that, um, you know you can take these tactics.
Speaker 1: I love hearing some of these successes where people have
Speaker 1: taken the tactics and just kind of adapted them to
Speaker 1: what they're hunting, whether it's a mule deer story and whatever.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the tips that I'm giving, you know,
Speaker 1: can be used across species lines. I will say, where
Speaker 1: you can take some of these tactics that I talked
Speaker 1: about for elk or deer, antelope or whatever and apply
Speaker 1: it to where you're hunting for the situation you are,
Speaker 1: and that that always is awesome. I love hearing that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So let's go. Let's let's start diving
Speaker 1: into some questions here. I'm just kinda I've got a
Speaker 1: bunch of them, and I just kind of scroll through
Speaker 1: and pick a few and and we'll go from there.
Speaker 1: And then the ones that I think that there was
Speaker 1: a lot of similar questions on UM you know, I
Speaker 1: try to answer those as well, but uh, this one
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty interesting because um, I actually had
Speaker 1: a similar experience, so that this one comes from James.
Speaker 1: He says, Remy loved the content and the podcast. You
Speaker 1: really know your animal behaviors and sounds, which I'm also
Speaker 1: fascinated with. I was recently on stand and had a
Speaker 1: very large, mature mule dear work through the edge of
Speaker 1: regent and timber mostly covered. He was raking very hard
Speaker 1: and went to town on a six to eight inch
Speaker 1: pine only about forty five yards away. No shot obviously, However,
Speaker 1: he went on to make several very loud vocalizations that
Speaker 1: I'd never heard before that sounded like a kazoo. It
Speaker 1: was way louder than grunts and high pitched in long,
Speaker 1: like blowing on a kazoo. If it is the buck
Speaker 1: I think it is. It may have been that he's
Speaker 1: eight to nine year old category probably near four pounds.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on this or idea is what this guy
Speaker 1: was trying to tell me? That's a really great question,
Speaker 1: because um, actually this year I heard some very similar
Speaker 1: sounds coming from mule deer as well. Uh. Now, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't. I think dear vocalization
Speaker 1: maybe is underplayed because they really only make those noises
Speaker 1: primarily during the rut, and it's not sounds that you
Speaker 1: hear all the time. But I have heard some very
Speaker 1: very strange sounds coming out of deer. What I was
Speaker 1: standing there glassing across the hill and it sounded like
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe the sound. It
Speaker 1: sounded like a sound that you would hear in the
Speaker 1: movie Jurassic Park for a weird dinosaur noise, And it
Speaker 1: was just this and I'm like, okay, it's like a
Speaker 1: weird elk strange, very similar to this kazoo sound. Um,
Speaker 1: and then some more roars and I've heard those buck
Speaker 1: roars before. You know my thoughts on this sound, It
Speaker 1: could have been one of a few things, not really
Speaker 1: knowing the full setup, if it was really thick, that
Speaker 1: really loud, becauseoo kind of sound could have been the buck,
Speaker 1: but it also possibly could have been a dough in Estris,
Speaker 1: because I did hear some more extra sounds coming from
Speaker 1: does down below me as well. So what I was
Speaker 1: hearing in this particular scenario that I encountered this year
Speaker 1: was two meal ear bucks grunting, and then the bucks
Speaker 1: would do these long grunts. I'm just doing these with
Speaker 1: my voice. I wish I had like a something to
Speaker 1: do it, but it's I don't even think there's calls
Speaker 1: that make some of these sounds. So then they were
Speaker 1: making these more longer, like drawn out roar type grunts
Speaker 1: like and then circling each other, and then off in
Speaker 1: the in the side, I spotted this. It was like
Speaker 1: this weird sound and it was a dough making an
Speaker 1: estris bleat, and it was more I'm going to try
Speaker 1: it right now. We'll see if I can even mimic it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you if it was good or not. But
Speaker 1: it's more like a ah, that's more like a moose.
Speaker 1: But it was it was like this, And then I
Speaker 1: could see those bucks now like very interested in this
Speaker 1: one dough. I don't know if that sound quite like it,
Speaker 1: but um, it's a sound that you don't really hear
Speaker 1: very often, so I wonder if it was that or
Speaker 1: if it was one of the bucks. Now, I also
Speaker 1: was hearing some more roaring sounds from these particular dear
Speaker 1: which isn't just a sound that you hear very often.
Speaker 1: But they were being very aggressive. They were hissing at
Speaker 1: each other, doing more of like a snort wheeze. You
Speaker 1: could see as I was watching him, the hair on
Speaker 1: their back of their next stand up they were stomping,
Speaker 1: and then that dough was doing her estrius call. And
Speaker 1: then these bucks were more like roaring at that dough. Um,
Speaker 1: Now in your particular instance, if you knew for sure
Speaker 1: that this buck was making those noises, do your do
Speaker 1: make a lot of different strange vocalizations. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: more of like a roar sound, or more of like
Speaker 1: a kind of like that, but particular bucks hiss at
Speaker 1: a dough or at another dear, whatever it was, he
Speaker 1: was very, very be fired up. Now I have even
Speaker 1: seen where certain deer just make really weird sounds because
Speaker 1: their vocal cords in some way have been damaged. Um
Speaker 1: the same thing happens with elk. This year, we had
Speaker 1: a bull that could not for the life of I
Speaker 1: called him the chuckler because all he could do is chuckle,
Speaker 1: because when he would bugle, it would break really weird
Speaker 1: and sounded like one of the worst bugles you've ever heard.
Speaker 1: And I've seen I've actually been fortunate enough to have
Speaker 1: um taken bowls that make these weird bugles. And we've
Speaker 1: seen like scars in their neck where they've taken a
Speaker 1: tyne in the neck, and you go, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Somehow it had taken something in the neck where the
Speaker 1: tying and arrow who knows what, some form of damage
Speaker 1: to his throat, and it makes this really horrible bugle
Speaker 1: noise um, but then is scarred back over. So I've
Speaker 1: seen that as well. So there's a lot of different
Speaker 1: possibilities for that. But dear do make some pretty strange
Speaker 1: sounds out there, And what I like to do is
Speaker 1: when I hear those sounds, try to try to remember
Speaker 1: what they were. Maybe what that deer was doing. If
Speaker 1: it was raking a tree, it was fired up. Is
Speaker 1: probably a sure deer, And they do make some very
Speaker 1: aggressive sounds at each other that are outside of the
Speaker 1: tiple typical sound. So when you're calling sometimes all one
Speaker 1: of the things that I've used on mule deer a
Speaker 1: lot when calling is um, the roaring sound and then
Speaker 1: that snort we's that and then the hissing, and it's
Speaker 1: just like one of those additional sounds that you can
Speaker 1: make that might fire him up to come in that
Speaker 1: little bit. If I had heard that weird kazoo type sound,
Speaker 1: I probably would have tried that snort weas and seeing
Speaker 1: if I could have brought him in a little bit
Speaker 1: more distance, just more of a direct challenge to that buck, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're in my bedroom too. Um. To me, it sounds
Speaker 1: like maybe he was making a sound that was telling
Speaker 1: another deer that hays and you're in my zone, get
Speaker 1: out like and trying to be as aggressive as possible.
Speaker 1: And that snort we's might have been enough of a
Speaker 1: sound to drawn from that forty five yards into your location,
Speaker 1: and it might be worth it try next time. This
Speaker 1: question comes from Daniel. He says, good a mate, love
Speaker 1: the podcast. Can you discuss the moon and your thoughts
Speaker 1: and experiences using moon phase? Please cheers. That is a
Speaker 1: great question and I probably should do a full podcast
Speaker 1: on this, but I think it's worth noting now. I
Speaker 1: think there's people that have their theories on moon phase,
Speaker 1: and and then there's people that have done studies on
Speaker 1: moon phase, and some say that it's a big factor,
Speaker 1: some say it's not a factor. Um, I absolutely believe
Speaker 1: it's a factor in certain ways. And I think that
Speaker 1: I think that the moon phases kind of um misunderstood
Speaker 1: by hunters and people, even people that study it. Now,
Speaker 1: I would say there's probably very few people that have
Speaker 1: been out year round watching and observing animals, and I
Speaker 1: am one of those people, you know, through guiding through
Speaker 1: hunting all over the place. UM, I really don't have
Speaker 1: an option with that. I'm going to hunt a certain
Speaker 1: week or not. I hunt every week when I'm guiding,
Speaker 1: it's every week during the season, and over the years,
Speaker 1: I've got to experience hunting during different moon phases, different things.
Speaker 1: Here's my thought on the moon phase and it I
Speaker 1: think it really lends itself to the style of hunting
Speaker 1: you're doing as well. I primarily do spot in stock hunting.
Speaker 1: Now I've noticed for certain species especially, it makes even
Speaker 1: more of a difference. UM. One one that I can
Speaker 1: definitely say it makes a bigger difference with happens to
Speaker 1: be like bears in the spring. Um. Depending on the
Speaker 1: moon in the week is really going to depend on
Speaker 1: how many animals you see, because you got to think
Speaker 1: about when you're spot stock hunting, you're wanting the animals
Speaker 1: to be somewhere where you can spot them. Um. I've
Speaker 1: seen studies where people say, oh, well, the moon phase
Speaker 1: doesn't uh affect animal movements. I don't personally think that
Speaker 1: the moon itself is what's affecting animals moving. Now, they
Speaker 1: might be moving and cover more, they might be whatever.
Speaker 1: What I want is I want dear to be out
Speaker 1: in the open or elk or bears or whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: hunting to be out in the open when during legal
Speaker 1: shooting times when I can see them, and I think
Speaker 1: that the moon plays a big factor in that, not
Speaker 1: for the fact that it's a full moon. I think
Speaker 1: it's more of an issue of light and those animals
Speaker 1: being able to feed and do their things that they
Speaker 1: do in the open during nighttime in more safety. So
Speaker 1: if you think about it, when the moon is out
Speaker 1: and it is bright, it's easier to see. Deer and
Speaker 1: elk and other animals have a certain capability of what
Speaker 1: we would call nocturnal vision, but it is not as
Speaker 1: good as the nocturnal vision of many predators. So what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do on the nights that are dark, they
Speaker 1: aren't going to be walking around as much. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be bedded, They're gonna be using their nose and ears
Speaker 1: for safety. When the moon comes out, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: more animals feeding, more animals moving around at night because
Speaker 1: under the cover of more light they can actually see. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's for them, it's they're under the cover of
Speaker 1: maybe some darkness, especially during hunting seasons where there's pressure
Speaker 1: during the day, so they can get there. Let's just
Speaker 1: say their chores, there's their activities, the things that they
Speaker 1: need to do done. Here's where the moon won't play
Speaker 1: a factor because it's a factor of light and not
Speaker 1: necessarily the moon itself. I believe that on really cloudy
Speaker 1: or stormy times during a full moon, it's not going
Speaker 1: to affect it like it would if it were clear.
Speaker 1: So clear nights on a full moon the next day, um,
Speaker 1: you're definitely gonna see some some differences in movements in
Speaker 1: the day. One thing I've noticed, um actually during full
Speaker 1: moon is you're going to get some more erratic like
Speaker 1: you might see them out longer in the morning, but
Speaker 1: not see them in the evening because what happens is
Speaker 1: it depends on the time that the moon rises as well.
Speaker 1: Is if the moon's up and they can kind of
Speaker 1: will come up a few hours after dark, they'll probably
Speaker 1: start feeding then, so in the evening generally deer elk
Speaker 1: whatever moon about of cover and then feed, you know,
Speaker 1: until it gets dark or whatever. So they feed as
Speaker 1: the sun starts to go down. They're very crepuscular moving
Speaker 1: mornings and evenings, and so they're gonna be out in
Speaker 1: the morning, out in the evening most days. Um, you
Speaker 1: just tend to see them out more often when there's
Speaker 1: no moon at night, and that is um some of
Speaker 1: the ways that I plan my hunts. But I have
Speaker 1: also noticed that over the years, we generally tend to
Speaker 1: find that are hunting success, Like when I'm guiding or whatever,
Speaker 1: my hunting success is kind of generally the same no
Speaker 1: matter what the moon's doing whatever. I have found that, uh,
Speaker 1: temperature also plays a very very big factor in that.
Speaker 1: So those times where it's a full moon and it's
Speaker 1: hot out, the deer definitely going to be more active
Speaker 1: at night. UM. So it's not necessarily just the moon,
Speaker 1: but it's also a factor of temperature and many many
Speaker 1: other things uh that can go into it. If I
Speaker 1: can plan around hunting where there's a smaller moon, I
Speaker 1: will absolutely do it because I just think it gives
Speaker 1: me a little bit more time to spot animals during
Speaker 1: the daylight hours while I'm glassing, because they're going to
Speaker 1: be out doing those chores and things that they need
Speaker 1: to do outside of nighttime more often. And that's my
Speaker 1: philosophy on that. That's a great question though I actually
Speaker 1: don't have a name for this one, but it says
Speaker 1: question for the podcast, which is great, how do you
Speaker 1: identify places of glass from from a map? I never
Speaker 1: seem to be able to identify good spots to glass
Speaker 1: from when doing map recon of a new area. So
Speaker 1: the first thing I look for is the areas that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to glass into. So if you go
Speaker 1: back to some older podcasts, I talk a lot about
Speaker 1: head basins, you know, draws cross canyons. So what you
Speaker 1: want to do is you want to look at the
Speaker 1: map and say, Okay, here's some potential areas that I
Speaker 1: want to hunt, and then I go back and say,
Speaker 1: where can I see this from? UM. One thing that
Speaker 1: I always like to think of is this idea of
Speaker 1: a glassing knob. Well, and knob is just the land
Speaker 1: of the top point of a hill where you can
Speaker 1: look across into something else. Those knobs work so long
Speaker 1: as there's no vegetation. So what I'm doing is I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking for areas UM two ways. One, I'm using
Speaker 1: the topography lines to find areas maybe across a certain
Speaker 1: distance from where I am planning on hunting. And then
Speaker 1: I switch to the satellite mode, and that satellite mode
Speaker 1: is gonna show me vegetation and hopefully I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: able to find a spot where it has little vegetation,
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna be able to theoretically see whatever I'm
Speaker 1: looking at. Now, if I'm planning on hunting this one
Speaker 1: particular canyon, Um, maybe it's a draw and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: walk up this draw. What I'm gonna do is I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look at my map and i'm gonna say, Okay,
Speaker 1: the wind is probably gonna be Let's say the draw
Speaker 1: goes um east west, Okay, and then so you're gonna
Speaker 1: be walking up the draw to the east, and then
Speaker 1: the wind is coming from the south. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be one of I'm gonna want to walk on the
Speaker 1: south side of the Let's say there's a creek in
Speaker 1: the bottom, I'm gonna be one of walking on the
Speaker 1: south side of the creek going up the canyon. So
Speaker 1: I'm pull up my map, I'm gonna look at that draw.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, okay, that way. If anything I spot,
Speaker 1: I'll be moving down wind too, and okay, Okay. Out
Speaker 1: here in the flat, here's a here's a here's a
Speaker 1: kind of another range or whatever. It's maybe half a
Speaker 1: mile away, and it looks like there's an open spot
Speaker 1: in the satellite imagery where I can kind of sit
Speaker 1: down and look into that canyon first, and then if
Speaker 1: I got to walk up that canyon maybe there's nothing else,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna look up the side that I'm planning
Speaker 1: and going and seeing if there's any good spots along
Speaker 1: the way where the vegetation breaks where I can see
Speaker 1: across or up into that basin. And if there is,
Speaker 1: then I kind of note those and try to work
Speaker 1: my way to those spots. One thing I like to
Speaker 1: do as well is just kind of get a wide
Speaker 1: view of things. So if there's certain places that go, okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good place to hunt, then I just
Speaker 1: scan around, mainly in that saddle light mode or I
Speaker 1: mean on on next what I use. The feature of
Speaker 1: the layer that I used the most would be satellite topo,
Speaker 1: like the combination, so I can see the topography lines
Speaker 1: and see the vegetation at the same time. Another great
Speaker 1: tool is using three D mapping. Um, if I can
Speaker 1: go into that three D map, I can kind of
Speaker 1: figure out get a better perspective of like where I
Speaker 1: might be theoretically, and then just kind of swivel that
Speaker 1: map around and look into the places that that I
Speaker 1: want to look and get a good idea if I
Speaker 1: can get a view of that, and then I just
Speaker 1: go and verify that there's no vegetation that's going to
Speaker 1: block that. And those are the ways that I really
Speaker 1: uh use my maps to find those glassing areas. All right,
Speaker 1: this is an interesting question. It comes from Christopher. He says,
Speaker 1: I remy love the podcast, and thank you for all
Speaker 1: your advice. I'm playing in my first back country. I'll
Speaker 1: cut next year, and I keep wrestling with a strange
Speaker 1: gear issue. Glasses or contacts. I wear both usually where
Speaker 1: my contact lenses when I hunt, because they don't fog
Speaker 1: up and make glassing and shooting a little easier. But
Speaker 1: I'm also typically near home or a camp should there
Speaker 1: be a problem like getting one stuck in my eye.
Speaker 1: Glasses are lower maintenance, but well, they fog up and
Speaker 1: make glassing of pain in the ass. I know this
Speaker 1: isn't a problem you likely have to deal with, but
Speaker 1: have you had any experiences with something like this. It
Speaker 1: seems like just the kind of trivial detail that can
Speaker 1: screw up a good hunt. Thanks again, that's a great question,
Speaker 1: Chris Um. You know I personally don't have um corrective vision,
Speaker 1: but my dad at one point did. UM. Now he
Speaker 1: and my wife as well. Both of them ended up
Speaker 1: getting lazic surgery. And my wife. Now, it's like funny
Speaker 1: because I always thought I was just really good at
Speaker 1: spotting things, and then now I realize it's just I
Speaker 1: am really good at spotting things. But she started spotting
Speaker 1: way more animals after having really good vision. She's like, wow,
Speaker 1: I can actually see them mountain Now. UM. You know
Speaker 1: that obviously isn't doesn't work for everyone, but it is like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, how good everybody I know that's gotten lazy.
Speaker 1: My brother and my dad and my wife all have
Speaker 1: better than at least vision now, and they're spotting of
Speaker 1: things has gone drastically up, even more than just having
Speaker 1: their contacts of their glasses, UM, which I mean I
Speaker 1: would just promote it. I know that that's not possible
Speaker 1: for everyone. UM, some people, you know, their eyes haven't
Speaker 1: settled or whatever the cases or don't opt for the lazing,
Speaker 1: but it is crazy how well that works. Before that,
Speaker 1: my dad would always run contacts, bring a spare set
Speaker 1: you just just extra crap you have to carry. But
Speaker 1: it's something you have to do. He would bring contacts
Speaker 1: and then in a case he would keep his glasses
Speaker 1: his backup for the most part outside of getting dirt
Speaker 1: in his eye or whatever his he would get the
Speaker 1: week long type contacts. He would have a spare set
Speaker 1: and then a set of glasses, because, yeah, I've hunted
Speaker 1: with a lot of guided a lot of people with glasses.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. There's so many times where I've had people
Speaker 1: lined up on the rifle their glasses are fogged. Because
Speaker 1: what happens is you're in the moment, you're hiking up,
Speaker 1: you've got to move fast. You're moving up, you're moving faster,
Speaker 1: your glasses are fogged. Then you go to shoot, you
Speaker 1: can't see. You take your glasses often you can't see
Speaker 1: the radical. It is a major, major pain in the ask.
Speaker 1: So my suggestion would be contacts number one, number two
Speaker 1: have backups, and then number three have a backup of
Speaker 1: a backup, which would be your glasses. Because it's better
Speaker 1: to be able to see than not to see. So
Speaker 1: I think that that would be the option. But if
Speaker 1: I could suggest anything, get some lazic. And if I'm
Speaker 1: going to suggest lazic, don't get the cheapest lasic. There
Speaker 1: is the guy that doesn't for twenty and I maybe
Speaker 1: maybe spend fifty dollars and I but because it is
Speaker 1: it's that important. Um. However, I think that uh, if
Speaker 1: you if you don't have that option, then I would
Speaker 1: say contacts and then glasses as a backup. This question
Speaker 1: comes from ASA. He says, Hey, remy love the show.
Speaker 1: My question is about hunting late season with a bow.
Speaker 1: How do you make a stock after leaves have fallen
Speaker 1: but there isn't any snow to quiet things down. I've
Speaker 1: had a few opportunities but haven't been able to make
Speaker 1: the stock in those situations. Things. Yeah, that that can
Speaker 1: be very difficult, and where you live, you know, definitely
Speaker 1: depends on the type of leaf fall and the type
Speaker 1: of noise. If you're in a very like that kind
Speaker 1: of place where there's a lot of leaves, that can
Speaker 1: be very difficult. One thing that I do think about
Speaker 1: is sometimes hunting where I can minimize those things that
Speaker 1: are very hard to control, so the amount of noise
Speaker 1: on the ground, um, leaves and other things. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe picking those spots where I can move without really
Speaker 1: intercepting that. So like creek bottoms where there's a lot
Speaker 1: of leaves a lot of times. What I do is
Speaker 1: I follow the creek. I try to stay in the
Speaker 1: rocks in other places. I pick my routes in the
Speaker 1: places that I hunt based on places where I can
Speaker 1: be quiet and still have a good opportunity of running
Speaker 1: into deer. Now, if you're in an area, you can
Speaker 1: only hun a small area a certain area. UM Very
Speaker 1: very early on in the podcast, one thing I talked
Speaker 1: about was a shoes off situation. If you watch my
Speaker 1: videos or followed some of my stuff, you notice that
Speaker 1: I take my shoes off an unordinate amount of times.
Speaker 1: Late season, early season doesn't matter, because I know how
Speaker 1: much more quiet it is. The stiff sole of the
Speaker 1: boot is really what cracks everything underneath your feet. Think
Speaker 1: about a deer walking through They've kind of got a
Speaker 1: lot less surface area than our feet, and so they
Speaker 1: can walk semi quiet. But you know there are things
Speaker 1: moving around in the forest that are making noise in
Speaker 1: those leaves. Squirrels, um other roads, birds, other things, but
Speaker 1: those don't tend to They might alert the deer, but
Speaker 1: they don't spook the deer. So as you're stalking, think
Speaker 1: about the way that you're walking, the cadence that you're
Speaker 1: walking and how you're walking, um tiptoeing through the forest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense because you're letting your toes feel the ground,
Speaker 1: you're slowly rolling your foot down, and you're going to
Speaker 1: be more quiet. Another thing that I'll do when I'm stalking,
Speaker 1: Like I actually just recently stalk some white tails and
Speaker 1: something similar and it was I ended up I have like, uh,
Speaker 1: some stocking socks that I throw on. It was luckily
Speaker 1: not super cold or not wet, but um, one thing
Speaker 1: that I will do is I'll take my foot and
Speaker 1: I'll just push the leaves aside, then place my foot,
Speaker 1: push the leaves aside, place my foot and even crawling
Speaker 1: like crawling stopping that noise sounds like something, but it
Speaker 1: also might be a way that you can distribute your
Speaker 1: weight and maybe not make so much noise going through
Speaker 1: the leaves. Just something to think about. There are ways
Speaker 1: that you can, um still make those stocks. It's worth
Speaker 1: trying if you've got no other options. And then if
Speaker 1: you're in a place where it's like hey, it's absolutely
Speaker 1: way too loud to stalk, then you need to change
Speaker 1: your tactic. Your tactic might be more of an ambush
Speaker 1: set up where you figure out the trails and things
Speaker 1: that the deer moving and then set up a blind
Speaker 1: tree stand uh in ambush of some kind. And those
Speaker 1: are some ways to kind of combat that this question
Speaker 1: comes from. Um, I'm not sure the first name. Actually
Speaker 1: I don't have a first name here, but last name Gonzalez.
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, remy, what bullets do you use in
Speaker 1: your three short meg? Do you use different grains for pronghorn,
Speaker 1: deer and elk? Actually I got this question a lot
Speaker 1: so UM recently. I've been using Federal terminal ascent bullets
Speaker 1: UM for quite a few reasons. So, I mean, if
Speaker 1: I were to go into my entire like exploration of
Speaker 1: the perfect hunting bullet, what I'm looking for is so
Speaker 1: many different things, and I think this bullet is probably
Speaker 1: the best that's matched what I'm looking for. What I
Speaker 1: like is I like a bullet with a good b C,
Speaker 1: so something that has a good ballistic coefficient. What that
Speaker 1: means is a little bit less drag, so it has
Speaker 1: less drop. It flies, I mean, they fly well, and
Speaker 1: I want something that groups really good from a hundred
Speaker 1: yards out to whatever distance I might be shooting. So
Speaker 1: the first step in picking a bullet is something your
Speaker 1: gun likes and something that shoots well right out of
Speaker 1: the gate. Um, my first sight in with these particular ones,
Speaker 1: like I went to two hundred yards. Um, my previous
Speaker 1: bullet was that. Uh, currently I'm using two hundred grains.
Speaker 1: So my the bullet before out of a three short bag.
Speaker 1: Three short maags generally used to tend to liking the
Speaker 1: like hundred and fifty five to one sixty grain bullets,
Speaker 1: and they would shoot the best. So when I'm picking
Speaker 1: a bullet, first off is accuracy. I need something that
Speaker 1: is gonna hit where I'm going. Um, these ones, you know,
Speaker 1: So just as like a personal story, I recently was
Speaker 1: shooting one fifty grains out of this same rifle. I
Speaker 1: switched to the two grain. Now you think two grain
Speaker 1: is gonna be heavier, it's gonna um so it's gonna
Speaker 1: drop more than the hundred and fifty grain and relatively,
Speaker 1: say aime velocities, these ones are maybe a little faster.
Speaker 1: The terminal sense are a little bit faster. So um,
Speaker 1: you know, I I adjusted my scope high because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna expecting it to drop. I shoot hits high. I
Speaker 1: set it back to the zero at two hundred yards.
Speaker 1: Those bullets, the two grain bullets were shooting uh an
Speaker 1: under one inch group on target on bulls eye where
Speaker 1: those hundred and fifty grain bullets were cited. And so
Speaker 1: it's just because they've got a better, better drag curve,
Speaker 1: they drop less and they weigh more. So that means
Speaker 1: that downrange, I'm gonna have more energy hitting. And it's
Speaker 1: a really good bullet. Also it performs really well out
Speaker 1: at distance but also at close range. So I really
Speaker 1: settled on that bullet. Um, I don't I don't dance
Speaker 1: around with grains for different species. I get one that
Speaker 1: shoots well and I hunt everything with that. So I
Speaker 1: kind of picked something for my top end and go
Speaker 1: from there. I have jumped back and forth a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I think that it's just easier to to get
Speaker 1: a bullet that works well, shoots accurately, you're you know
Speaker 1: the drop compensation and everything, and hunt with it. Um
Speaker 1: like anything though, shot placement is key. UM. So I
Speaker 1: kind of picked something, I mean anything in that three
Speaker 1: short bag from ELK. You know, you could go with
Speaker 1: a one fifty and up you'll be good. Um. I
Speaker 1: never really thought I would be shooting the two grain,
Speaker 1: but it's hey for elk at longer distances that gives
Speaker 1: me a little bit more knockdown power. Some people might say, well,
Speaker 1: it's overkill for dear pronghorn or whatever. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't really noticed a lot of meat loss. If
Speaker 1: you make a good shot. Um, you know, a good
Speaker 1: SHOT's a good shot. And so I don't know if
Speaker 1: the difference between using a bigger bullet and a little
Speaker 1: bit smaller bullet is gonna be it's gonna be negligible
Speaker 1: when it comes to like meat damage and impact. You know,
Speaker 1: if you hit something in the shoulder with any of
Speaker 1: those bullets is going to have some damage. So I
Speaker 1: don't like to grain hop. I like to get something
Speaker 1: that works for that rifle, and I just stick with
Speaker 1: it because I'm not the type of person that wants
Speaker 1: to go and and mess with a bunch of different grains. Now,
Speaker 1: if you've got some that work well, and you already know, hey,
Speaker 1: this works good for it, then it's fine. If you've
Speaker 1: got it and you can switch back and forth easily,
Speaker 1: that's great. But I just like to have my rifle
Speaker 1: set up and know where it shoots and then and
Speaker 1: then stick with it and hunt with it, especially because
Speaker 1: a lot of these trips will be like pretty back
Speaker 1: to back, so you might be like hunting elk and
Speaker 1: then and a deer tag. I don't I wouldn't try
Speaker 1: to just switch, especially during like mid season or anything
Speaker 1: like that. So that's what I shoot. UM. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of questions on bullets and firearms this week.
Speaker 1: Actually we'll jump into another question here because UM some
Speaker 1: other people were thinking asking questions like what's a good
Speaker 1: all around caliber. I've said it before. I think the
Speaker 1: three short MAAG is a great all around caliber kind
Speaker 1: of for everything, because it's got a short action, a
Speaker 1: lighter rifle for mountains, but also has some pretty good performance,
Speaker 1: very similar to a windmag but you know, a shorter
Speaker 1: bullet throw, which is is nice when you're you're proned
Speaker 1: out in you want to make sure you don't lose,
Speaker 1: especially if you're by yourself. You know, you want to
Speaker 1: be able to stay on target. And uh, just a
Speaker 1: little bit lighter action as well for like carrying around. UM,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of my thing on that. And then
Speaker 1: I also got a lot of questions on the use
Speaker 1: of suppressors UM in hunting. You know, some people asking
Speaker 1: are they legal? Some people asking why I use a suppressor. Um,
Speaker 1: I've guided a long time. I've hunted a lot of
Speaker 1: different places. I am a big proponent of having a
Speaker 1: firearm that is both accurate and that you shoot really well.
Speaker 1: And I think to shoot a firearm really well, you
Speaker 1: need some form of recoil management. Now. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how tough of a guy you are. How if you
Speaker 1: shoot a lot and that gun keeps hammering you over
Speaker 1: and over and over, you're gonna develop some form of
Speaker 1: bad anticipate vation. What I mean is a flinch, And
Speaker 1: so there's a couple devices that take that flinch out.
Speaker 1: A muzzle break is one. Um. A suppressor is essentially
Speaker 1: a muzzle break that doesn't So what happens when you
Speaker 1: put a muzzle break on your rifle. It throws the
Speaker 1: energy out to the sides, taking some of that felt
Speaker 1: recoil out. But what that also does is it's super loud. Um.
Speaker 1: We used to calm guide killers because it's like the
Speaker 1: guys next to you hear it even more. It's very
Speaker 1: damaging to your hearing. I have had muzzle brakes go
Speaker 1: off near me and like no joke, my vision go
Speaker 1: black like it's just the concussion from that gun. If
Speaker 1: you're at the a little bit weird angle or something
Speaker 1: like that, your ear plugs aren't in, it's very, very,
Speaker 1: very damaging. I know very quite a few people that
Speaker 1: have had a muzzle break go off by them or
Speaker 1: I have thrown up their gun shot and no your
Speaker 1: protection in and they got ringing ears for the rest
Speaker 1: of their life because of that one shot. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be that guy, so uh, you'll see me
Speaker 1: all aways. Have the ear protection earpro around my neck
Speaker 1: and I always make sure that I put it in
Speaker 1: ahead of time because I'm so cautious about ear protection
Speaker 1: and other things. Um, using a suppressor makes sense because
Speaker 1: if you don't have time to put your protection in,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be of those same damaging levels
Speaker 1: as an unsuppressed firearm or a muzzle brake. Now you
Speaker 1: hear people say, oh, well it's still in damaging rang.
Speaker 1: I you know whatever, you take certain things. I mean,
Speaker 1: I shot a shotgun for a very long time without
Speaker 1: your protection. That was a big mistake. I always suggest
Speaker 1: now if you can wear your protection when you can, Yeah,
Speaker 1: even when I fire my suppressor at the range. UM,
Speaker 1: it just takes that crack out of the rifle and
Speaker 1: brings the decibel levels to a safer balance than it
Speaker 1: does with the muzzle brakes. So it's like a muzzle
Speaker 1: brake that isn't going to blow your ear drums out
Speaker 1: and destroy your hearing in one shot. UM. So when
Speaker 1: I'm at the range, I still throw my ear pro in,
Speaker 1: but UM, when I'm hunting, I just I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: think about it. And it's really nice because you can
Speaker 1: if you're hunting with someone else they're spotting, you can
Speaker 1: communicate back and forth the person. It's especially nice for
Speaker 1: the person that's watching or near you because it's actually UM,
Speaker 1: you know you you don't have that negative effect like
Speaker 1: you do with the UM muzzle brake. I know that
Speaker 1: kind of as a tangent from the bullet thing. But
Speaker 1: I have like a three dozen questions on that topic.
Speaker 1: So I figured I just instead of pulling one question out,
Speaker 1: just touch on it, because that was gonna be the
Speaker 1: next kind of thing that we talked about. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of questions, UM about the guiding stuff, UM,
Speaker 1: questions about choosing guides. I thought this was kind of
Speaker 1: a good question Um, because you know a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're getting into hunting, you're new to hunting, or
Speaker 1: even you've been hunting your whole life. I think choosing
Speaker 1: a uh to go guide it is a great way
Speaker 1: to learn an area to or not learn an area,
Speaker 1: but like to go with somebody that is an expert
Speaker 1: at what you're looking to do, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a lot more successful. Yes, it costs money, but sometimes
Speaker 1: you can lean tips and things from those people. One
Speaker 1: thing I will say is you don't want to be
Speaker 1: that person that's like goes on a guided hunt to
Speaker 1: try to figure out spots. That's a dick move. Don't
Speaker 1: be that guy. If you're that guy, shame on you.
Speaker 1: But um, one thing that I will say is, you
Speaker 1: know there there are a lot of questions and are
Speaker 1: there there's some great guys, some great outfitters out there,
Speaker 1: and there's some bad ones. It's really hard to find
Speaker 1: to sift through and figure out who's who. But um,
Speaker 1: you know you kind of know just um talking to
Speaker 1: other people. Maybe you get some hot tip from someone
Speaker 1: that's been and and that's really the best way to
Speaker 1: figure out. But uh, this question it comes from Derek.
Speaker 1: He says, although I've listened to Cutting the Distance for
Speaker 1: a relatively short period, I've binge listened to every episode
Speaker 1: over the shutdown, some of your best ones twice. I'm
Speaker 1: what you guys call an adult onset hunter, but I
Speaker 1: prefer to call it late bloomer hunter. Mid December, me
Speaker 1: and some friends are using an outfitter in Uh, using
Speaker 1: an outfit for a combo hunt for ducks and geese.
Speaker 1: I like it because the cost of entry so high
Speaker 1: for ducks, it's overwhelming. My first question is in your wheelhouse,
Speaker 1: how much should I tip our guide for if he's phenomenal,
Speaker 1: down to average? That's a great question, you know. Being
Speaker 1: a professional hunting guide myself, I have tips are what
Speaker 1: get me through the season. I mean honestly, like it's
Speaker 1: it's I hate, I hate to say it, but you know,
Speaker 1: like the wages are pretty low, the margins are pretty tight.
Speaker 1: Tips are like the kind of thing that puts you
Speaker 1: into like feeding yourself. So um, you know. I I
Speaker 1: would always say, like, oh yeah, beer tips better, but uh,
Speaker 1: the average I think, just like cost of hunt generally,
Speaker 1: you kind of start around ten percent. That's an average
Speaker 1: tip for hunting or outdoor type services. Now you're like, well,
Speaker 1: ten percent, you know, and then it just kind of
Speaker 1: depends if the guide is really good and the hunt
Speaker 1: was fairly cheap. It's just kind of like think about
Speaker 1: it kind of like a restaurant as well, where if
Speaker 1: you got really good service and you really appreciate the
Speaker 1: guy and it's like maybe the guy doesn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of spots available and you got in and you
Speaker 1: want to come back, it's better to be a good tipper,
Speaker 1: and those are the type of people that they want
Speaker 1: to come back because they know that they're helping out
Speaker 1: their guides there or whatever there. You know, so that's
Speaker 1: a factor of the cost you should include. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: on a one day type hunted, two day type hunt
Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know, you could always do a
Speaker 1: little bit more or you can kind of take that
Speaker 1: ten percent, say this was a really shitty hunt, Um
Speaker 1: the guides were, you know, I really base it off
Speaker 1: of not necessarily like even if myself, if I go
Speaker 1: with a guy that's a guide or a friend or whatever,
Speaker 1: not a friend, but like if I'm on a trip
Speaker 1: where there's a guide, um, I like to be the
Speaker 1: guy that tips on the higher end of the scale.
Speaker 1: And but I also would say, like, if you're thinking
Speaker 1: about when you go on a guided hunt, you know
Speaker 1: what your tips should be reflective of is the work
Speaker 1: that the guide provided? So was he organized? Did he
Speaker 1: work his butt off? Was he no matter the success
Speaker 1: that you had, doing everything in his ability to help
Speaker 1: you be successful? Was he knowledgeable? Was he an expert?
Speaker 1: Was he a professional? Was he going above and beyond
Speaker 1: the call of duty? Um? No matter the circumstances. And
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you know, people think, well if I
Speaker 1: get a big elk, then I'll tip more if I
Speaker 1: get whatever I and I like to think of it
Speaker 1: as like, how well did that person give me a
Speaker 1: good experience, a good service, or whatever, and then your
Speaker 1: tip can reflect that. But that ten percent is kind
Speaker 1: of like an average um starting point, and you go
Speaker 1: up or down from there. This question comes from Kyleie says,
Speaker 1: Remy love the podcast and I decided to be a
Speaker 1: hunter by listening to it. I have no mentor so
Speaker 1: this has been a great resource. I'm starting a small
Speaker 1: game this falling Nebraska and hoping to get a turkey
Speaker 1: for the holiday table. What can you recommend for a
Speaker 1: new hunter mixing with old hunters that are also hunting
Speaker 1: deer on public land. So I don't become that guy. Um,
Speaker 1: he says, So he doesn't become that guy. He's familiar
Speaker 1: with local laws, but more concerned about being courteous to others.
Speaker 1: That's a great question, and I think it's something that
Speaker 1: you know, really needs to be discussed because as more
Speaker 1: people are hunting more public land, things are changing, the
Speaker 1: landscapes changing. Uh. Some of these changes are very very
Speaker 1: sad to me. Um, But it's because I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people kind of lost this sense of common courtesy.
Speaker 1: This this uh yes it's public, but also we're all hunters,
Speaker 1: were all trying to have a good time. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean to paint like a bad picture because there
Speaker 1: are many many people that are the opposite of this
Speaker 1: or or do things right. And I think the most
Speaker 1: important thing is like if you roll up, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to disturb someone else's hunt. You don't
Speaker 1: want to ruin someone else's hunt, and you don't want
Speaker 1: someone else to ruin your hunt. So being courteous in
Speaker 1: that way. But there's also limited amount of spaces you
Speaker 1: pull up to a trailhead, there's another vehicle parked there. Um.
Speaker 1: What do you do? Do you walk in behind them?
Speaker 1: Do you go somewhere else? Well, maybe everywhere you go
Speaker 1: there's someone and that ruined your experience. You really got
Speaker 1: to understand, like how big the area is you're going into. Um,
Speaker 1: you don't want to walk in on anyone. You want
Speaker 1: to just kind of think of I don't want to
Speaker 1: ruin someone's hunt. The best thing you can do if
Speaker 1: you're somewhere and you run into someone in the woods,
Speaker 1: talk to each other. This has happened so many times
Speaker 1: with me. I've been in a trailhead. Okay, it's the
Speaker 1: one hit trailhead. It goes and access is five hundred
Speaker 1: different areas. You know. I don't own that trailhead because
Speaker 1: I got there first. And I don't own that trailhead
Speaker 1: because I got their fifteen. Um, what I do is,
Speaker 1: we're all here, we're all hunting, we're all trying to
Speaker 1: enjoy ourselves and have a good time, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to upset anyone else's hunt. But I also want
Speaker 1: to have an enjoyable trip myself. So you think about
Speaker 1: those things. You think about the area you're going into.
Speaker 1: Is there enough room for two people, if there is cool,
Speaker 1: if are you gonna be able to figure out where
Speaker 1: that other person went? Yes? Or no? You know that
Speaker 1: person that's the head, you might have an advantage, but
Speaker 1: you know, there's been so many times where I walked
Speaker 1: into a guy coming down to trail, I walk up
Speaker 1: three yards, passed them my spotted milk. You know, just
Speaker 1: because someone else is up there doesn't mean that they
Speaker 1: see what you see. Doesn't mean that they're gonna things happen,
Speaker 1: things move, things change. So, um, I wouldn't necessarily say that.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't go to where other people are at,
Speaker 1: but you also want to be very courteous of each other, everybody,
Speaker 1: the people that came in behind you, and the people
Speaker 1: or whatever. So this is my kind of gentleman's rule
Speaker 1: that I have. If somebody is somewhere where they're ahead
Speaker 1: of me or got there first, and I run into them,
Speaker 1: I asked them, hey, what's your plan? What do you
Speaker 1: guys thinking of doing? We want to stay out of
Speaker 1: your way, um, which is a courteous thing to do.
Speaker 1: And they'll say, hey, well we're thinking about going up
Speaker 1: here and into this basin. I'll say, okay, cool, here's
Speaker 1: what now I will do. If it's the same plan
Speaker 1: I was gonna have. I'm gonna readjust and say, oh,
Speaker 1: that'll be a really good hunt for you. We were
Speaker 1: thinking and doing that same thing. But you know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna go this way and will
Speaker 1: that stay out of your way? Yes? No, whatever. Now
Speaker 1: if the other person is being a jerk about it,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you just go and do and have
Speaker 1: your hunt and leave and say have a good day.
Speaker 1: There's other times where I have run into people and
Speaker 1: know where are you guys going? Uh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: up here? Okay, we'll give you leave you to that spot,
Speaker 1: And I go, hey, you know what, um there, I
Speaker 1: saw elk here the other night. Why don't we both
Speaker 1: try to go get an elk out here? You know,
Speaker 1: if you guys want um you know, generally like the
Speaker 1: person that's kind of leading thing. Okay, I'll get first
Speaker 1: shot and you know, you guys can whatever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. I mean I have I have helped people
Speaker 1: that I've run into pack out animals. I've helped people
Speaker 1: um hunt. There's times where I've seen something and it
Speaker 1: wasn't something that I wanted to take, but kind of
Speaker 1: pointed them in a direction. So just talking to each other,
Speaker 1: being civil and understanding they're fellow hunters. They're out there.
Speaker 1: It's not a real you know, just be common courtesy
Speaker 1: and you should be fine. And I think if everybody
Speaker 1: kind of keeps that in mind, the woods will be
Speaker 1: a much more harmonious place and we'll all get along.
Speaker 1: And then we want to have to make all these
Speaker 1: rules to block certain people out Idaho. Just just kidding.
Speaker 1: This question comes from Renee. It says Hi, remy new
Speaker 1: fans on of the podcast here. I think you give
Speaker 1: great advice. My question is what would you say is
Speaker 1: the most important to work towards your first when you're
Speaker 1: starting to plan towards anilk hunting trip. My brother and
Speaker 1: I went to plan a trip and I'm starting from
Speaker 1: ground zero. I'm having a hard time trying to figure
Speaker 1: out where to start as far as gathering gear, tweaking
Speaker 1: my bow, practicing, shooting, et cetera. With the amount of
Speaker 1: knowledge that's the unfrail hunting, it starts to get a
Speaker 1: bit overwhelming. Thanks in advance if you have time for
Speaker 1: my question, big fan, that's a great question. I think
Speaker 1: the first place you start is just narrowing in where
Speaker 1: do you want, find a place to hunt, get a tag,
Speaker 1: and honestly, you know, everybody, what's the best state for
Speaker 1: a first ltcount where wherever is fairly close to you
Speaker 1: and you can get a tag. I mean, it doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. Um if you have a tag in your hand,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be your hunt and then you can start
Speaker 1: worrying about all the other stuff. I really think too
Speaker 1: many people are just stressed out about where do I go?
Speaker 1: Where do I go? Where do I go? Instead of
Speaker 1: just get go somewhere, Get get that portion of the
Speaker 1: trip planned, because that's gonna be the first step. Now
Speaker 1: you can start investing time into whatever area it is.
Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people go, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to hunt where you're hunting because you're very
Speaker 1: successful there. It means absolutely you know, if I spent
Speaker 1: the same amount of time some other place, that would
Speaker 1: be the good hunt for me. You know, there are
Speaker 1: areas that are better than others. But I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: get wrapped up in that. I find a place I
Speaker 1: want to hunt, and I hunt it, and I invest
Speaker 1: that time into that. Everything else will then fall into place.
Speaker 1: So the first step step one always get the tag,
Speaker 1: Get the spot that you're gonna go to. You whether
Speaker 1: or decide how you're gonna do it, you know you
Speaker 1: gotta There's only certain amount of over the counter tags available,
Speaker 1: so get one of those and and pick a spot,
Speaker 1: and then start researching that spot, start figuring out where
Speaker 1: you're gonna go, start looking over those maps, and then
Speaker 1: you start, as it gets closer, building out the gear
Speaker 1: and all the meanwhile building up your fitness and practicing
Speaker 1: with whatever you're gonna shoot. And I think if you
Speaker 1: do those things in that order, you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: successful trip, and if you're unsuccessful, you're gonna learn a
Speaker 1: lot of cool stuff along the way, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: probably readjust for the next time you do it. But
Speaker 1: just plunging in right now, figure out where you can
Speaker 1: get a tag. By that tag, and then invest into it.
Speaker 1: The other stuff that you're gonna need will all kind
Speaker 1: of fall into place. The hardest steps the first one,
Speaker 1: and that's just once you've got that tag, now you've
Speaker 1: got somewhere to go and you can get it all
Speaker 1: figured out, all right. Last question here comes from Tray.
Speaker 1: He says, Remy, my wife and I just did three
Speaker 1: night pack in deer hunt in Texas, UH and had
Speaker 1: a great time. We went seven miles in and had
Speaker 1: to carry all our water since there is none available
Speaker 1: to where we were. I feel like we've packed light
Speaker 1: and we still had a hundred pounds between us forty
Speaker 1: two pounds of it or Watermind you, I saw a
Speaker 1: really good buck, but wasn't as aggressive because I couldn't
Speaker 1: imagine us getting it back out. Even on the hike
Speaker 1: back after we had dumped the extra water weight, I
Speaker 1: kept thinking, there's no way I could have had an
Speaker 1: entire You're on me back? Did we just go too
Speaker 1: far in? I'd love to hear your tips and suggestions
Speaker 1: on planning and executing packouts. Thanks, love the show. That's
Speaker 1: a great question. So, I mean, my my philosophy on
Speaker 1: this is probably different than a lot of people's because
Speaker 1: when I go in, I kind of have this mindset
Speaker 1: that like, nothing's too far. So if I see a
Speaker 1: deer then I'm like, Okay, that's a really long ways away.
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely gonna get after it, and I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to be successful because that's my opportunity. Um, the way
Speaker 1: I think about it, it it is like, let's say I
Speaker 1: got an elk down way back in there whatever. It's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it might be days getting it out or what have you.
Speaker 1: But there's also not like you gotta you're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep hunting, You're gonna keep expending energy. Once
Speaker 1: you get something down, you know, now your energy is
Speaker 1: just getting that out. So it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: trade off, like you can keep hunting, but um, do
Speaker 1: you know you're using that energy now to to get
Speaker 1: something out. I think of it like maybe you went
Speaker 1: in if it's if you're new to it and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is so far. One thing you'll figure out is
Speaker 1: like it's difficult, but you'll probably get it done, or
Speaker 1: you will get it done. Sometimes it might take multiple trips. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I I a lot of the places I
Speaker 1: hunt carrying water sucks. Um, what I would have done
Speaker 1: on that particular thing is said, like, okay, this is
Speaker 1: very difficult. I think what I would have done is done.
Speaker 1: I would have stashed a lot of my water, like
Speaker 1: say at the end where the deer is or whatever,
Speaker 1: and just done a couple of stages. Um, you're clearly
Speaker 1: far enough where you're camping, so I would have you know,
Speaker 1: one day, packed my deer, uh like back to camp
Speaker 1: and then maybe a mile pass camp, then set the
Speaker 1: deer back, then kind of leap frogged it with the
Speaker 1: water in different stations, so I'd have my water to
Speaker 1: get out, and by the last trip, I've got my
Speaker 1: gear and the deer and it's probably maybe like one
Speaker 1: last push to the vehicle the last two or three
Speaker 1: miles with all my stuff. So I would have probably
Speaker 1: figured out a plan like that. Um, if you if
Speaker 1: you if you see something like that and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's too far, I don't know how I'd get it out,
Speaker 1: then I probably wouldn't have spent my time hunting in
Speaker 1: that area if I had that, you know, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense, like where you're like, okay, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: if we see one back here, we weren't gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get it out. I just wouldn't hunt back there.
Speaker 1: Then I would instead spend my time hunting where it's like,
Speaker 1: I know I can get one out, because you're kind
Speaker 1: of wasting your time almost looking for animals that you
Speaker 1: aren't going to go after when maybe there's not as
Speaker 1: many animals somewhere where you can get them out. Easily.
Speaker 1: But you're probably better off looking in those areas and
Speaker 1: not seeing anything than seeing something that you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to take that out. Um. So that's why
Speaker 1: over the years, I've just developed this mindset that nothing's
Speaker 1: too far. Um. I've really really really had some like
Speaker 1: I've had some horrible packouts. I mean I've had packouts
Speaker 1: like I mean, I could probably hundreds of packouts that
Speaker 1: I think that really really sucked. It taxed me to
Speaker 1: my physical limits. But I also put myself in that
Speaker 1: situation and because of it, I was success full and
Speaker 1: pretty stoked to them and end up doing it. But
Speaker 1: I understand to like, if you're just getting into it,
Speaker 1: maybe next time, like start out not going so far,
Speaker 1: go to place where it's like okay, maybe a mile
Speaker 1: or two or three, and and then hunting in that
Speaker 1: area because you can find those places that are closer
Speaker 1: within your limits, and then you know, working into it
Speaker 1: that way. I think that that's a better option than
Speaker 1: just going like balls out and then being back there
Speaker 1: and being like, no, this isn't gonna work. Because I've
Speaker 1: there's been hunts where I've been on and I've like
Speaker 1: get back to the trailhead. I'm like, wow, man, I
Speaker 1: would have sucked if I had to carry something from
Speaker 1: back there. But I think me personally, I would have
Speaker 1: done it. Um, So I don't think that. I just
Speaker 1: think it's one of those things like planning your hunt
Speaker 1: a little bit better next time, where you kind of know, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a lot harder than you think. And now
Speaker 1: I also have to ahead of time factor and getting
Speaker 1: something out and then hunting those areas where you can
Speaker 1: get those things out so you don't have to pass
Speaker 1: up something because it's in a place that's gonna be
Speaker 1: difficult to pack out from. And that's my suggestion. I
Speaker 1: hope that some of those questions help you guys out. Uh.
Speaker 1: Next week, we're gonna jump into a few more stories
Speaker 1: hopefully some tips that uh, you know, help you for
Speaker 1: some more later season hunting. I'm looking forward to this
Speaker 1: coming next year. Maybe some you know, some of the stuff,
Speaker 1: the questions and suggestions. I got some more late season stuff,
Speaker 1: a lot of small game questions, a lot of people
Speaker 1: requesting more tips on duck hunting and other things. I
Speaker 1: know I've talked about some duck hunting and only done
Speaker 1: one duck hunting episode. I'm actually on my way to
Speaker 1: go do some duck hunting up off of Kodiak Island.
Speaker 1: My dad drew an Emperor Goose tag, so I'm really
Speaker 1: looking forward to that that's gonna be later this season.
Speaker 1: Some of the hunts that I I've still got some
Speaker 1: some of my best hunts I think for the year
Speaker 1: coming up, So Kodiak deer and ducks, and then archery
Speaker 1: meal deer tag. I still got a late season archery
Speaker 1: meal their tag, and then I've got that um Texas tag.
Speaker 1: Might even throw in some couzy deer uh in the
Speaker 1: Arizona area. A lot of cool late season hunts still
Speaker 1: coming up for me, So I'm really looking forward to
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. I know the holidays are coming
Speaker 1: up and it's just gonna be kind of weird this
Speaker 1: year with like COVID and everything like that. But hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe some people can get out and if
Speaker 1: you if you're a big game hunter and haven't done
Speaker 1: a lot of small game hunting, maybe this is a
Speaker 1: good year to to take that time where you can
Speaker 1: get out and do some outdoor activities with some people,
Speaker 1: uh and and try something new or if you're new
Speaker 1: to hunting. I think there's a lot of awesome small
Speaker 1: game opportunities, a lot of great stuff. I would say
Speaker 1: call it late season hunting, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: great hunts still available from December through January, even maybe
Speaker 1: into February depending on where you live. So a lot
Speaker 1: of cool things to look forward to. UM. As always,
Speaker 1: please feel free to send me your suggestions. You can
Speaker 1: reach out Remy at the meat Eater dot com or
Speaker 1: UM probably the easiest way because I've got all these
Speaker 1: hunts and traveling on, moving around and outside whatever. UM
Speaker 1: via Instagram. You can always follow some of my stuff
Speaker 1: on there, and yes, I appreciate you guys. Thank you
Speaker 1: for checking it out, and we'll catch you shortly. M