1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back to the podcast everyone. 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Today's the day I reached deep into the mail bag. 7 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: Here the old male sack and answer your questions. So 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of great questions coming in. I 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: hope that over the season some of these things have 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: been helpful to you. Maybe you know I like to 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: open up every you know, almost every podcast. I'm saying, 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: send me your questions, send me your questions, because I 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: really enjoy being able to answer specific questions, and I 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: know that I get a lot of the same questions 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: as well, So I think that the Q and A 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: is a really good way to kind of just make 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: sure that I'm on topic and and answering things that 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: you guys want to know. Also, I've got a ton 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: of good messages about just some success, so I'll just 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: read a few here. This one comes from Kylie said, 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted to pass along thanks for the Glassing podcast, 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: which was a recent podcast that we just did, He said, 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I listened to it last Friday on my way to 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: set up camp for the week. Later that day, I 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: glassed up a group of mealies that I probably wouldn't 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: have without some of your advice on bodylines that stand out. 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: Long story short, I got the buck in that bunch 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: opening morning on a very heavily populated public spot. Was 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: practically sitting on them when the sun came up. Thanks man, crazy, 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: how it helped have a great winter Kyle and Kyle 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: sent me a picture of the buck in his backpack, 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: and it is a great buck. Good workman, love seeing 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: that stuff. Another one came in from it, says, hey, 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Remy been an avid listener to the podcast for the 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: last few months, keeping my spirits high and learning all 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: that I can for this fault. Was fortunate enough to 37 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: connect on beautiful CU's buck using some techniques I learned 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: from your podcast. I'm off on a late season cow 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: hunt next week and hope to put more of your 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: tips to use. Thanks Zef. He sent in a picture 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: of a really nice cus deer buck. So it's awesome 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: to me that, um, you know you can take these tactics. 43 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: I love hearing some of these successes where people have 44 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: taken the tactics and just kind of adapted them to 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: what they're hunting, whether it's a mule deer story and whatever. 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: But a lot of the tips that I'm giving, you know, 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: can be used across species lines. I will say, where 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: you can take some of these tactics that I talked 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: about for elk or deer, antelope or whatever and apply 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: it to where you're hunting for the situation you are, 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: and that that always is awesome. I love hearing that 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So let's go. Let's let's start diving 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: into some questions here. I'm just kinda I've got a 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: bunch of them, and I just kind of scroll through 55 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: and pick a few and and we'll go from there. 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: And then the ones that I think that there was 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: a lot of similar questions on UM you know, I 58 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: try to answer those as well, but uh, this one 59 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: I thought was pretty interesting because um, I actually had 60 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: a similar experience, so that this one comes from James. 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: He says, Remy loved the content and the podcast. You 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: really know your animal behaviors and sounds, which I'm also 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: fascinated with. I was recently on stand and had a 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: very large, mature mule dear work through the edge of 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: regent and timber mostly covered. He was raking very hard 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: and went to town on a six to eight inch 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: pine only about forty five yards away. No shot obviously, However, 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: he went on to make several very loud vocalizations that 69 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: I'd never heard before that sounded like a kazoo. It 70 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: was way louder than grunts and high pitched in long, 71 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: like blowing on a kazoo. If it is the buck 72 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: I think it is. It may have been that he's 73 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: eight to nine year old category probably near four pounds. 74 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on this or idea is what this guy 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: was trying to tell me? That's a really great question, 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: because um, actually this year I heard some very similar 77 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: sounds coming from mule deer as well. Uh. Now, I 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't. I think dear vocalization 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: maybe is underplayed because they really only make those noises 80 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: primarily during the rut, and it's not sounds that you 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: hear all the time. But I have heard some very 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: very strange sounds coming out of deer. What I was 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: standing there glassing across the hill and it sounded like 84 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe the sound. It 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: sounded like a sound that you would hear in the 86 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: movie Jurassic Park for a weird dinosaur noise, And it 87 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: was just this and I'm like, okay, it's like a 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: weird elk strange, very similar to this kazoo sound. Um, 89 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: and then some more roars and I've heard those buck 90 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: roars before. You know my thoughts on this sound, It 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: could have been one of a few things, not really 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: knowing the full setup, if it was really thick, that 93 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: really loud, becauseoo kind of sound could have been the buck, 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: but it also possibly could have been a dough in Estris, 95 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: because I did hear some more extra sounds coming from 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: does down below me as well. So what I was 97 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: hearing in this particular scenario that I encountered this year 98 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: was two meal ear bucks grunting, and then the bucks 99 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: would do these long grunts. I'm just doing these with 100 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: my voice. I wish I had like a something to 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: do it, but it's I don't even think there's calls 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: that make some of these sounds. So then they were 103 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: making these more longer, like drawn out roar type grunts 104 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: like and then circling each other, and then off in 105 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: the in the side, I spotted this. It was like 106 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: this weird sound and it was a dough making an 107 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: estris bleat, and it was more I'm going to try 108 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: it right now. We'll see if I can even mimic it. 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: I'll tell you if it was good or not. But 110 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: it's more like a ah, that's more like a moose. 111 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: But it was it was like this, And then I 112 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: could see those bucks now like very interested in this 113 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: one dough. I don't know if that sound quite like it, 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: but um, it's a sound that you don't really hear 115 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: very often, so I wonder if it was that or 116 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: if it was one of the bucks. Now, I also 117 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: was hearing some more roaring sounds from these particular dear 118 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: which isn't just a sound that you hear very often. 119 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: But they were being very aggressive. They were hissing at 120 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: each other, doing more of like a snort wheeze. You 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: could see as I was watching him, the hair on 122 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: their back of their next stand up they were stomping, 123 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: and then that dough was doing her estrius call. And 124 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: then these bucks were more like roaring at that dough. Um, 125 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Now in your particular instance, if you knew for sure 126 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: that this buck was making those noises, do your do 127 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: make a lot of different strange vocalizations. Maybe it was 128 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: more of like a roar sound, or more of like 129 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: a kind of like that, but particular bucks hiss at 130 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: a dough or at another dear, whatever it was, he 131 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: was very, very be fired up. Now I have even 132 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: seen where certain deer just make really weird sounds because 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: their vocal cords in some way have been damaged. Um 134 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: the same thing happens with elk. This year, we had 135 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: a bull that could not for the life of I 136 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: called him the chuckler because all he could do is chuckle, 137 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: because when he would bugle, it would break really weird 138 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: and sounded like one of the worst bugles you've ever heard. 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: And I've seen I've actually been fortunate enough to have 140 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: um taken bowls that make these weird bugles. And we've 141 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: seen like scars in their neck where they've taken a 142 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: tyne in the neck, and you go, okay, that makes sense. 143 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: Somehow it had taken something in the neck where the 144 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: tying and arrow who knows what, some form of damage 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: to his throat, and it makes this really horrible bugle 146 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: noise um, but then is scarred back over. So I've 147 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: seen that as well. So there's a lot of different 148 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: possibilities for that. But dear do make some pretty strange 149 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: sounds out there, And what I like to do is 150 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: when I hear those sounds, try to try to remember 151 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: what they were. Maybe what that deer was doing. If 152 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: it was raking a tree, it was fired up. Is 153 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: probably a sure deer, And they do make some very 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: aggressive sounds at each other that are outside of the 155 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: tiple typical sound. So when you're calling sometimes all one 156 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: of the things that I've used on mule deer a 157 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: lot when calling is um, the roaring sound and then 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: that snort we's that and then the hissing, and it's 159 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: just like one of those additional sounds that you can 160 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: make that might fire him up to come in that 161 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: little bit. If I had heard that weird kazoo type sound, 162 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: I probably would have tried that snort weas and seeing 163 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: if I could have brought him in a little bit 164 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: more distance, just more of a direct challenge to that buck, like, hey, 165 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: you're in my bedroom too. Um. To me, it sounds 166 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: like maybe he was making a sound that was telling 167 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: another deer that hays and you're in my zone, get 168 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: out like and trying to be as aggressive as possible. 169 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: And that snort we's might have been enough of a 170 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: sound to drawn from that forty five yards into your location, 171 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: and it might be worth it try next time. This 172 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: question comes from Daniel. He says, good a mate, love 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: the podcast. Can you discuss the moon and your thoughts 174 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: and experiences using moon phase? Please cheers. That is a 175 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: great question and I probably should do a full podcast 176 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 1: on this, but I think it's worth noting now. I 177 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: think there's people that have their theories on moon phase, 178 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: and and then there's people that have done studies on 179 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: moon phase, and some say that it's a big factor, 180 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: some say it's not a factor. Um, I absolutely believe 181 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: it's a factor in certain ways. And I think that 182 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: I think that the moon phases kind of um misunderstood 183 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: by hunters and people, even people that study it. Now, 184 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: I would say there's probably very few people that have 185 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: been out year round watching and observing animals, and I 186 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: am one of those people, you know, through guiding through 187 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: hunting all over the place. UM, I really don't have 188 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: an option with that. I'm going to hunt a certain 189 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: week or not. I hunt every week when I'm guiding, 190 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: it's every week during the season, and over the years, 191 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: I've got to experience hunting during different moon phases, different things. 192 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Here's my thought on the moon phase and it I 193 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: think it really lends itself to the style of hunting 194 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: you're doing as well. I primarily do spot in stock hunting. 195 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: Now I've noticed for certain species especially, it makes even 196 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: more of a difference. UM. One one that I can 197 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: definitely say it makes a bigger difference with happens to 198 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: be like bears in the spring. Um. Depending on the 199 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: moon in the week is really going to depend on 200 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: how many animals you see, because you got to think 201 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: about when you're spot stock hunting, you're wanting the animals 202 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: to be somewhere where you can spot them. Um. I've 203 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: seen studies where people say, oh, well, the moon phase 204 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: doesn't uh affect animal movements. I don't personally think that 205 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: the moon itself is what's affecting animals moving. Now, they 206 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: might be moving and cover more, they might be whatever. 207 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: What I want is I want dear to be out 208 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: in the open or elk or bears or whatever. I'm 209 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: hunting to be out in the open when during legal 210 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: shooting times when I can see them, and I think 211 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: that the moon plays a big factor in that, not 212 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: for the fact that it's a full moon. I think 213 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: it's more of an issue of light and those animals 214 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: being able to feed and do their things that they 215 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: do in the open during nighttime in more safety. So 216 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: if you think about it, when the moon is out 217 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: and it is bright, it's easier to see. Deer and 218 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: elk and other animals have a certain capability of what 219 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: we would call nocturnal vision, but it is not as 220 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: good as the nocturnal vision of many predators. So what 221 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna do on the nights that are dark, they 222 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: aren't going to be walking around as much. They're gonna 223 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: be bedded, They're gonna be using their nose and ears 224 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: for safety. When the moon comes out, you're gonna see 225 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: more animals feeding, more animals moving around at night because 226 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: under the cover of more light they can actually see. Well, 227 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: it's it's for them, it's they're under the cover of 228 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: maybe some darkness, especially during hunting seasons where there's pressure 229 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: during the day, so they can get there. Let's just 230 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: say their chores, there's their activities, the things that they 231 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: need to do done. Here's where the moon won't play 232 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: a factor because it's a factor of light and not 233 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: necessarily the moon itself. I believe that on really cloudy 234 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: or stormy times during a full moon, it's not going 235 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: to affect it like it would if it were clear. 236 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: So clear nights on a full moon the next day, um, 237 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: you're definitely gonna see some some differences in movements in 238 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the day. One thing I've noticed, um actually during full 239 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: moon is you're going to get some more erratic like 240 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: you might see them out longer in the morning, but 241 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: not see them in the evening because what happens is 242 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: it depends on the time that the moon rises as well. 243 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Is if the moon's up and they can kind of 244 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: will come up a few hours after dark, they'll probably 245 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: start feeding then, so in the evening generally deer elk 246 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: whatever moon about of cover and then feed, you know, 247 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: until it gets dark or whatever. So they feed as 248 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: the sun starts to go down. They're very crepuscular moving 249 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: mornings and evenings, and so they're gonna be out in 250 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: the morning, out in the evening most days. Um, you 251 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: just tend to see them out more often when there's 252 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: no moon at night, and that is um some of 253 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: the ways that I plan my hunts. But I have 254 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: also noticed that over the years, we generally tend to 255 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: find that are hunting success, Like when I'm guiding or whatever, 256 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: my hunting success is kind of generally the same no 257 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: matter what the moon's doing whatever. I have found that, uh, 258 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: temperature also plays a very very big factor in that. 259 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: So those times where it's a full moon and it's 260 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: hot out, the deer definitely going to be more active 261 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: at night. UM. So it's not necessarily just the moon, 262 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: but it's also a factor of temperature and many many 263 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: other things uh that can go into it. If I 264 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: can plan around hunting where there's a smaller moon, I 265 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: will absolutely do it because I just think it gives 266 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: me a little bit more time to spot animals during 267 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: the daylight hours while I'm glassing, because they're going to 268 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: be out doing those chores and things that they need 269 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: to do outside of nighttime more often. And that's my 270 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: philosophy on that. That's a great question though I actually 271 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: don't have a name for this one, but it says 272 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: question for the podcast, which is great, how do you 273 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: identify places of glass from from a map? I never 274 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: seem to be able to identify good spots to glass 275 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: from when doing map recon of a new area. So 276 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: the first thing I look for is the areas that 277 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to glass into. So if you go 278 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: back to some older podcasts, I talk a lot about 279 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: head basins, you know, draws cross canyons. So what you 280 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: want to do is you want to look at the 281 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: map and say, Okay, here's some potential areas that I 282 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: want to hunt, and then I go back and say, 283 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: where can I see this from? UM. One thing that 284 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: I always like to think of is this idea of 285 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: a glassing knob. Well, and knob is just the land 286 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: of the top point of a hill where you can 287 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: look across into something else. Those knobs work so long 288 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: as there's no vegetation. So what I'm doing is I'm 289 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking for areas UM two ways. One, I'm using 290 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: the topography lines to find areas maybe across a certain 291 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: distance from where I am planning on hunting. And then 292 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: I switch to the satellite mode, and that satellite mode 293 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: is gonna show me vegetation and hopefully I'm gonna be 294 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: able to find a spot where it has little vegetation, 295 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna be able to theoretically see whatever I'm 296 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: looking at. Now, if I'm planning on hunting this one 297 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: particular canyon, Um, maybe it's a draw and I'm gonna 298 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: walk up this draw. What I'm gonna do is I'm 299 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: gonna look at my map and i'm gonna say, Okay, 300 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: the wind is probably gonna be Let's say the draw 301 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: goes um east west, Okay, and then so you're gonna 302 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: be walking up the draw to the east, and then 303 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: the wind is coming from the south. So I'm gonna 304 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: be one of I'm gonna want to walk on the 305 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: south side of the Let's say there's a creek in 306 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: the bottom, I'm gonna be one of walking on the 307 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: south side of the creek going up the canyon. So 308 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm pull up my map, I'm gonna look at that draw. 309 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, okay, that way. If anything I spot, 310 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: I'll be moving down wind too, and okay, Okay. Out 311 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: here in the flat, here's a here's a here's a 312 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: kind of another range or whatever. It's maybe half a 313 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: mile away, and it looks like there's an open spot 314 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: in the satellite imagery where I can kind of sit 315 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: down and look into that canyon first, and then if 316 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: I got to walk up that canyon maybe there's nothing else, 317 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna look up the side that I'm planning 318 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: and going and seeing if there's any good spots along 319 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the way where the vegetation breaks where I can see 320 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: across or up into that basin. And if there is, 321 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: then I kind of note those and try to work 322 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: my way to those spots. One thing I like to 323 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: do as well is just kind of get a wide 324 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: view of things. So if there's certain places that go, okay, 325 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: this is a good place to hunt, then I just 326 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: scan around, mainly in that saddle light mode or I 327 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: mean on on next what I use. The feature of 328 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: the layer that I used the most would be satellite topo, 329 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: like the combination, so I can see the topography lines 330 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: and see the vegetation at the same time. Another great 331 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: tool is using three D mapping. Um, if I can 332 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: go into that three D map, I can kind of 333 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: figure out get a better perspective of like where I 334 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: might be theoretically, and then just kind of swivel that 335 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: map around and look into the places that that I 336 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: want to look and get a good idea if I 337 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: can get a view of that, and then I just 338 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: go and verify that there's no vegetation that's going to 339 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: block that. And those are the ways that I really 340 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: uh use my maps to find those glassing areas. All right, 341 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: this is an interesting question. It comes from Christopher. He says, 342 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: I remy love the podcast, and thank you for all 343 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: your advice. I'm playing in my first back country. I'll 344 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: cut next year, and I keep wrestling with a strange 345 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: gear issue. Glasses or contacts. I wear both usually where 346 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: my contact lenses when I hunt, because they don't fog 347 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: up and make glassing and shooting a little easier. But 348 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm also typically near home or a camp should there 349 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: be a problem like getting one stuck in my eye. 350 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: Glasses are lower maintenance, but well, they fog up and 351 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: make glassing of pain in the ass. I know this 352 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: isn't a problem you likely have to deal with, but 353 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: have you had any experiences with something like this. It 354 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: seems like just the kind of trivial detail that can 355 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: screw up a good hunt. Thanks again, that's a great question, 356 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: Chris Um. You know I personally don't have um corrective vision, 357 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: but my dad at one point did. UM. Now he 358 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: and my wife as well. Both of them ended up 359 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: getting lazic surgery. And my wife. Now, it's like funny 360 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: because I always thought I was just really good at 361 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: spotting things, and then now I realize it's just I 362 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: am really good at spotting things. But she started spotting 363 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: way more animals after having really good vision. She's like, wow, 364 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: I can actually see them mountain Now. UM. You know 365 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: that obviously isn't doesn't work for everyone, but it is like, 366 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: it's crazy, how good everybody I know that's gotten lazy. 367 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: My brother and my dad and my wife all have 368 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: better than at least vision now, and they're spotting of 369 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: things has gone drastically up, even more than just having 370 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: their contacts of their glasses, UM, which I mean I 371 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: would just promote it. I know that that's not possible 372 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: for everyone. UM, some people, you know, their eyes haven't 373 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: settled or whatever the cases or don't opt for the lazing, 374 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: but it is crazy how well that works. Before that, 375 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: my dad would always run contacts, bring a spare set 376 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: you just just extra crap you have to carry. But 377 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: it's something you have to do. He would bring contacts 378 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: and then in a case he would keep his glasses 379 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: his backup for the most part outside of getting dirt 380 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: in his eye or whatever his he would get the 381 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: week long type contacts. He would have a spare set 382 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: and then a set of glasses, because, yeah, I've hunted 383 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: with a lot of guided a lot of people with glasses. 384 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: It's terrible. There's so many times where I've had people 385 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: lined up on the rifle their glasses are fogged. Because 386 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: what happens is you're in the moment, you're hiking up, 387 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: you've got to move fast. You're moving up, you're moving faster, 388 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: your glasses are fogged. Then you go to shoot, you 389 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: can't see. You take your glasses often you can't see 390 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: the radical. It is a major, major pain in the ask. 391 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: So my suggestion would be contacts number one, number two 392 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: have backups, and then number three have a backup of 393 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: a backup, which would be your glasses. Because it's better 394 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: to be able to see than not to see. So 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: I think that that would be the option. But if 396 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: I could suggest anything, get some lazic. And if I'm 397 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: going to suggest lazic, don't get the cheapest lasic. There 398 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: is the guy that doesn't for twenty and I maybe 399 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: maybe spend fifty dollars and I but because it is 400 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: it's that important. Um. However, I think that uh, if 401 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: you if you don't have that option, then I would 402 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: say contacts and then glasses as a backup. This question 403 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: comes from ASA. He says, Hey, remy love the show. 404 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: My question is about hunting late season with a bow. 405 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: How do you make a stock after leaves have fallen 406 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: but there isn't any snow to quiet things down. I've 407 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: had a few opportunities but haven't been able to make 408 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: the stock in those situations. Things. Yeah, that that can 409 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: be very difficult, and where you live, you know, definitely 410 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: depends on the type of leaf fall and the type 411 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: of noise. If you're in a very like that kind 412 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: of place where there's a lot of leaves, that can 413 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: be very difficult. One thing that I do think about 414 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: is sometimes hunting where I can minimize those things that 415 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: are very hard to control, so the amount of noise 416 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: on the ground, um, leaves and other things. You know, 417 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: maybe picking those spots where I can move without really 418 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: intercepting that. So like creek bottoms where there's a lot 419 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: of leaves a lot of times. What I do is 420 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I follow the creek. I try to stay in the 421 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: rocks in other places. I pick my routes in the 422 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: places that I hunt based on places where I can 423 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: be quiet and still have a good opportunity of running 424 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: into deer. Now, if you're in an area, you can 425 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: only hun a small area a certain area. UM Very 426 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: very early on in the podcast, one thing I talked 427 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: about was a shoes off situation. If you watch my 428 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: videos or followed some of my stuff, you notice that 429 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: I take my shoes off an unordinate amount of times. 430 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: Late season, early season doesn't matter, because I know how 431 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: much more quiet it is. The stiff sole of the 432 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: boot is really what cracks everything underneath your feet. Think 433 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: about a deer walking through They've kind of got a 434 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: lot less surface area than our feet, and so they 435 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: can walk semi quiet. But you know there are things 436 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: moving around in the forest that are making noise in 437 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: those leaves. Squirrels, um other roads, birds, other things, but 438 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: those don't tend to They might alert the deer, but 439 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: they don't spook the deer. So as you're stalking, think 440 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: about the way that you're walking, the cadence that you're 441 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: walking and how you're walking, um tiptoeing through the forest. Yeah, 442 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: it makes sense because you're letting your toes feel the ground, 443 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: you're slowly rolling your foot down, and you're going to 444 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: be more quiet. Another thing that I'll do when I'm stalking, 445 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: Like I actually just recently stalk some white tails and 446 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: something similar and it was I ended up I have like, uh, 447 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: some stocking socks that I throw on. It was luckily 448 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: not super cold or not wet, but um, one thing 449 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: that I will do is I'll take my foot and 450 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: I'll just push the leaves aside, then place my foot, 451 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: push the leaves aside, place my foot and even crawling 452 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: like crawling stopping that noise sounds like something, but it 453 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: also might be a way that you can distribute your 454 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: weight and maybe not make so much noise going through 455 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: the leaves. Just something to think about. There are ways 456 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: that you can, um still make those stocks. It's worth 457 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: trying if you've got no other options. And then if 458 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: you're in a place where it's like hey, it's absolutely 459 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: way too loud to stalk, then you need to change 460 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: your tactic. Your tactic might be more of an ambush 461 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: set up where you figure out the trails and things 462 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: that the deer moving and then set up a blind 463 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: tree stand uh in ambush of some kind. And those 464 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: are some ways to kind of combat that this question 465 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: comes from. Um, I'm not sure the first name. Actually 466 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't have a first name here, but last name Gonzalez. 467 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: He says, Hey, remy, what bullets do you use in 468 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: your three short meg? Do you use different grains for pronghorn, 469 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: deer and elk? Actually I got this question a lot 470 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: so UM recently. I've been using Federal terminal ascent bullets 471 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: UM for quite a few reasons. So, I mean, if 472 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: I were to go into my entire like exploration of 473 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: the perfect hunting bullet, what I'm looking for is so 474 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: many different things, and I think this bullet is probably 475 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: the best that's matched what I'm looking for. What I 476 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: like is I like a bullet with a good b C, 477 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: so something that has a good ballistic coefficient. What that 478 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: means is a little bit less drag, so it has 479 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: less drop. It flies, I mean, they fly well, and 480 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: I want something that groups really good from a hundred 481 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: yards out to whatever distance I might be shooting. So 482 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: the first step in picking a bullet is something your 483 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: gun likes and something that shoots well right out of 484 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: the gate. Um, my first sight in with these particular ones, 485 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: like I went to two hundred yards. Um, my previous 486 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: bullet was that. Uh, currently I'm using two hundred grains. 487 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: So my the bullet before out of a three short bag. 488 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: Three short maags generally used to tend to liking the 489 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: like hundred and fifty five to one sixty grain bullets, 490 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: and they would shoot the best. So when I'm picking 491 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: a bullet, first off is accuracy. I need something that 492 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: is gonna hit where I'm going. Um, these ones, you know, 493 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: So just as like a personal story, I recently was 494 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: shooting one fifty grains out of this same rifle. I 495 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: switched to the two grain. Now you think two grain 496 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be heavier, it's gonna um so it's gonna 497 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: drop more than the hundred and fifty grain and relatively, 498 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: say aime velocities, these ones are maybe a little faster. 499 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: The terminal sense are a little bit faster. So um, 500 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, I I adjusted my scope high because I'm 501 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: gonna expecting it to drop. I shoot hits high. I 502 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: set it back to the zero at two hundred yards. 503 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: Those bullets, the two grain bullets were shooting uh an 504 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: under one inch group on target on bulls eye where 505 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: those hundred and fifty grain bullets were cited. And so 506 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: it's just because they've got a better, better drag curve, 507 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: they drop less and they weigh more. So that means 508 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: that downrange, I'm gonna have more energy hitting. And it's 509 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: a really good bullet. Also it performs really well out 510 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: at distance but also at close range. So I really 511 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: settled on that bullet. Um, I don't I don't dance 512 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: around with grains for different species. I get one that 513 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: shoots well and I hunt everything with that. So I 514 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: kind of picked something for my top end and go 515 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: from there. I have jumped back and forth a little bit, 516 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: but I think that it's just easier to to get 517 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: a bullet that works well, shoots accurately, you're you know 518 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: the drop compensation and everything, and hunt with it. Um 519 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: like anything though, shot placement is key. UM. So I 520 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: kind of picked something, I mean anything in that three 521 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: short bag from ELK. You know, you could go with 522 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: a one fifty and up you'll be good. Um. I 523 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: never really thought I would be shooting the two grain, 524 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: but it's hey for elk at longer distances that gives 525 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: me a little bit more knockdown power. Some people might say, well, 526 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: it's overkill for dear pronghorn or whatever. Well, I don't know. 527 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: I haven't really noticed a lot of meat loss. If 528 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: you make a good shot. Um, you know, a good 529 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: SHOT's a good shot. And so I don't know if 530 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: the difference between using a bigger bullet and a little 531 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: bit smaller bullet is gonna be it's gonna be negligible 532 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to like meat damage and impact. You know, 533 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: if you hit something in the shoulder with any of 534 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: those bullets is going to have some damage. So I 535 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: don't like to grain hop. I like to get something 536 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: that works for that rifle, and I just stick with 537 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: it because I'm not the type of person that wants 538 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: to go and and mess with a bunch of different grains. Now, 539 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: if you've got some that work well, and you already know, hey, 540 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: this works good for it, then it's fine. If you've 541 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: got it and you can switch back and forth easily, 542 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: that's great. But I just like to have my rifle 543 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: set up and know where it shoots and then and 544 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: then stick with it and hunt with it, especially because 545 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these trips will be like pretty back 546 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: to back, so you might be like hunting elk and 547 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: then and a deer tag. I don't I wouldn't try 548 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: to just switch, especially during like mid season or anything 549 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: like that. So that's what I shoot. UM. I got 550 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: a lot of questions on bullets and firearms this week. 551 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: Actually we'll jump into another question here because UM some 552 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: other people were thinking asking questions like what's a good 553 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: all around caliber. I've said it before. I think the 554 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: three short MAAG is a great all around caliber kind 555 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: of for everything, because it's got a short action, a 556 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: lighter rifle for mountains, but also has some pretty good performance, 557 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: very similar to a windmag but you know, a shorter 558 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: bullet throw, which is is nice when you're you're proned 559 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: out in you want to make sure you don't lose, 560 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: especially if you're by yourself. You know, you want to 561 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: be able to stay on target. And uh, just a 562 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: little bit lighter action as well for like carrying around. UM, 563 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: So that's kind of my thing on that. And then 564 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: I also got a lot of questions on the use 565 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: of suppressors UM in hunting. You know, some people asking 566 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: are they legal? Some people asking why I use a suppressor. Um, 567 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: I've guided a long time. I've hunted a lot of 568 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: different places. I am a big proponent of having a 569 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: firearm that is both accurate and that you shoot really well. 570 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: And I think to shoot a firearm really well, you 571 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: need some form of recoil management. Now. It doesn't matter 572 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: how tough of a guy you are. How if you 573 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: shoot a lot and that gun keeps hammering you over 574 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: and over and over, you're gonna develop some form of 575 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: bad anticipate vation. What I mean is a flinch, And 576 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: so there's a couple devices that take that flinch out. 577 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: A muzzle break is one. Um. A suppressor is essentially 578 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: a muzzle break that doesn't So what happens when you 579 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: put a muzzle break on your rifle. It throws the 580 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: energy out to the sides, taking some of that felt 581 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: recoil out. But what that also does is it's super loud. Um. 582 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: We used to calm guide killers because it's like the 583 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: guys next to you hear it even more. It's very 584 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: damaging to your hearing. I have had muzzle brakes go 585 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: off near me and like no joke, my vision go 586 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: black like it's just the concussion from that gun. If 587 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: you're at the a little bit weird angle or something 588 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: like that, your ear plugs aren't in, it's very, very, 589 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: very damaging. I know very quite a few people that 590 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: have had a muzzle break go off by them or 591 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: I have thrown up their gun shot and no your 592 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: protection in and they got ringing ears for the rest 593 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: of their life because of that one shot. I don't 594 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: want to be that guy, so uh, you'll see me 595 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: all aways. Have the ear protection earpro around my neck 596 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: and I always make sure that I put it in 597 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: ahead of time because I'm so cautious about ear protection 598 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: and other things. Um, using a suppressor makes sense because 599 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: if you don't have time to put your protection in, 600 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: it's not going to be of those same damaging levels 601 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: as an unsuppressed firearm or a muzzle brake. Now you 602 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: hear people say, oh, well it's still in damaging rang. 603 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: I you know whatever, you take certain things. I mean, 604 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: I shot a shotgun for a very long time without 605 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: your protection. That was a big mistake. I always suggest 606 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: now if you can wear your protection when you can, Yeah, 607 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: even when I fire my suppressor at the range. UM, 608 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: it just takes that crack out of the rifle and 609 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: brings the decibel levels to a safer balance than it 610 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: does with the muzzle brakes. So it's like a muzzle 611 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: brake that isn't going to blow your ear drums out 612 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: and destroy your hearing in one shot. UM. So when 613 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm at the range, I still throw my ear pro in, 614 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: but UM, when I'm hunting, I just I don't necessarily 615 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: think about it. And it's really nice because you can 616 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: if you're hunting with someone else they're spotting, you can 617 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: communicate back and forth the person. It's especially nice for 618 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: the person that's watching or near you because it's actually UM, 619 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: you know you you don't have that negative effect like 620 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: you do with the UM muzzle brake. I know that 621 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of as a tangent from the bullet thing. But 622 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: I have like a three dozen questions on that topic. 623 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: So I figured I just instead of pulling one question out, 624 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: just touch on it, because that was gonna be the 625 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: next kind of thing that we talked about. I got 626 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: a lot of questions, UM about the guiding stuff, UM, 627 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: questions about choosing guides. I thought this was kind of 628 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: a good question Um, because you know a lot of people. 629 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you're getting into hunting, you're new to hunting, or 630 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: even you've been hunting your whole life. I think choosing 631 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: a uh to go guide it is a great way 632 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: to learn an area to or not learn an area, 633 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: but like to go with somebody that is an expert 634 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: at what you're looking to do, it's going to be 635 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: a lot more successful. Yes, it costs money, but sometimes 636 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: you can lean tips and things from those people. One 637 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: thing I will say is you don't want to be 638 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: that person that's like goes on a guided hunt to 639 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: try to figure out spots. That's a dick move. Don't 640 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: be that guy. If you're that guy, shame on you. 641 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: But um, one thing that I will say is, you 642 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: know there there are a lot of questions and are 643 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 1: there there's some great guys, some great outfitters out there, 644 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: and there's some bad ones. It's really hard to find 645 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: to sift through and figure out who's who. But um, 646 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: you know you kind of know just um talking to 647 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: other people. Maybe you get some hot tip from someone 648 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: that's been and and that's really the best way to 649 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: figure out. But uh, this question it comes from Derek. 650 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: He says, although I've listened to Cutting the Distance for 651 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: a relatively short period, I've binge listened to every episode 652 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: over the shutdown, some of your best ones twice. I'm 653 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: what you guys call an adult onset hunter, but I 654 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: prefer to call it late bloomer hunter. Mid December, me 655 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: and some friends are using an outfitter in Uh, using 656 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: an outfit for a combo hunt for ducks and geese. 657 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: I like it because the cost of entry so high 658 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: for ducks, it's overwhelming. My first question is in your wheelhouse, 659 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: how much should I tip our guide for if he's phenomenal, 660 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: down to average? That's a great question, you know. Being 661 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: a professional hunting guide myself, I have tips are what 662 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: get me through the season. I mean honestly, like it's 663 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: it's I hate, I hate to say it, but you know, 664 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: like the wages are pretty low, the margins are pretty tight. 665 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: Tips are like the kind of thing that puts you 666 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: into like feeding yourself. So um, you know. I I 667 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: would always say, like, oh yeah, beer tips better, but uh, 668 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: the average I think, just like cost of hunt generally, 669 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: you kind of start around ten percent. That's an average 670 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: tip for hunting or outdoor type services. Now you're like, well, 671 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: ten percent, you know, and then it just kind of 672 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: depends if the guide is really good and the hunt 673 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: was fairly cheap. It's just kind of like think about 674 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: it kind of like a restaurant as well, where if 675 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: you got really good service and you really appreciate the 676 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: guy and it's like maybe the guy doesn't have a 677 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: lot of spots available and you got in and you 678 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: want to come back, it's better to be a good tipper, 679 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: and those are the type of people that they want 680 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: to come back because they know that they're helping out 681 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: their guides there or whatever there. You know, so that's 682 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: a factor of the cost you should include. Um, you know, 683 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: on a one day type hunted, two day type hunt 684 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know, you could always do a 685 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: little bit more or you can kind of take that 686 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: ten percent, say this was a really shitty hunt, Um 687 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: the guides were, you know, I really base it off 688 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: of not necessarily like even if myself, if I go 689 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: with a guy that's a guide or a friend or whatever, 690 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: not a friend, but like if I'm on a trip 691 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: where there's a guide, um, I like to be the 692 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: guy that tips on the higher end of the scale. 693 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: And but I also would say, like, if you're thinking 694 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: about when you go on a guided hunt, you know 695 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: what your tips should be reflective of is the work 696 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: that the guide provided? So was he organized? Did he 697 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: work his butt off? Was he no matter the success 698 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: that you had, doing everything in his ability to help 699 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: you be successful? Was he knowledgeable? Was he an expert? 700 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: Was he a professional? Was he going above and beyond 701 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: the call of duty? Um? No matter the circumstances. And 702 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: I think sometimes you know, people think, well if I 703 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: get a big elk, then I'll tip more if I 704 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: get whatever I and I like to think of it 705 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: as like, how well did that person give me a 706 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: good experience, a good service, or whatever, and then your 707 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: tip can reflect that. But that ten percent is kind 708 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: of like an average um starting point, and you go 709 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: up or down from there. This question comes from Kyleie says, 710 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: Remy love the podcast and I decided to be a 711 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: hunter by listening to it. I have no mentor so 712 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: this has been a great resource. I'm starting a small 713 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: game this falling Nebraska and hoping to get a turkey 714 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: for the holiday table. What can you recommend for a 715 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: new hunter mixing with old hunters that are also hunting 716 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: deer on public land. So I don't become that guy. Um, 717 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: he says, So he doesn't become that guy. He's familiar 718 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: with local laws, but more concerned about being courteous to others. 719 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: That's a great question, and I think it's something that 720 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, really needs to be discussed because as more 721 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: people are hunting more public land, things are changing, the 722 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: landscapes changing. Uh. Some of these changes are very very 723 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: sad to me. Um, But it's because I think a 724 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: lot of people kind of lost this sense of common courtesy. 725 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: This this uh yes it's public, but also we're all hunters, 726 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: were all trying to have a good time. And I 727 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: don't mean to paint like a bad picture because there 728 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: are many many people that are the opposite of this 729 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: or or do things right. And I think the most 730 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: important thing is like if you roll up, you know, 731 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: you don't want to disturb someone else's hunt. You don't 732 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: want to ruin someone else's hunt, and you don't want 733 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: someone else to ruin your hunt. So being courteous in 734 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: that way. But there's also limited amount of spaces you 735 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: pull up to a trailhead, there's another vehicle parked there. Um. 736 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: What do you do? Do you walk in behind them? 737 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: Do you go somewhere else? Well, maybe everywhere you go 738 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: there's someone and that ruined your experience. You really got 739 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: to understand, like how big the area is you're going into. Um, 740 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to walk in on anyone. You want 741 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: to just kind of think of I don't want to 742 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: ruin someone's hunt. The best thing you can do if 743 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: you're somewhere and you run into someone in the woods, 744 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: talk to each other. This has happened so many times 745 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: with me. I've been in a trailhead. Okay, it's the 746 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: one hit trailhead. It goes and access is five hundred 747 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 1: different areas. You know. I don't own that trailhead because 748 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: I got there first. And I don't own that trailhead 749 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: because I got their fifteen. Um, what I do is, 750 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: we're all here, we're all hunting, we're all trying to 751 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: enjoy ourselves and have a good time, and I don't 752 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: want to upset anyone else's hunt. But I also want 753 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: to have an enjoyable trip myself. So you think about 754 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: those things. You think about the area you're going into. 755 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: Is there enough room for two people, if there is cool, 756 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: if are you gonna be able to figure out where 757 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: that other person went? Yes? Or no? You know that 758 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: person that's the head, you might have an advantage, but 759 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, there's been so many times where I walked 760 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: into a guy coming down to trail, I walk up 761 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: three yards, passed them my spotted milk. You know, just 762 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: because someone else is up there doesn't mean that they 763 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: see what you see. Doesn't mean that they're gonna things happen, 764 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: things move, things change. So, um, I wouldn't necessarily say that. 765 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, you can't go to where other people are at, 766 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: but you also want to be very courteous of each other, everybody, 767 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: the people that came in behind you, and the people 768 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: or whatever. So this is my kind of gentleman's rule 769 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: that I have. If somebody is somewhere where they're ahead 770 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: of me or got there first, and I run into them, 771 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: I asked them, hey, what's your plan? What do you 772 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: guys thinking of doing? We want to stay out of 773 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: your way, um, which is a courteous thing to do. 774 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: And they'll say, hey, well we're thinking about going up 775 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: here and into this basin. I'll say, okay, cool, here's 776 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: what now I will do. If it's the same plan 777 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: I was gonna have. I'm gonna readjust and say, oh, 778 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: that'll be a really good hunt for you. We were 779 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: thinking and doing that same thing. But you know what 780 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna go this way and will 781 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: that stay out of your way? Yes? No, whatever. Now 782 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: if the other person is being a jerk about it, 783 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you just go and do and have 784 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: your hunt and leave and say have a good day. 785 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: There's other times where I have run into people and 786 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: know where are you guys going? Uh, I'm gonna go 787 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: up here? Okay, we'll give you leave you to that spot, 788 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: And I go, hey, you know what, um there, I 789 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: saw elk here the other night. Why don't we both 790 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: try to go get an elk out here? You know, 791 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: if you guys want um you know, generally like the 792 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: person that's kind of leading thing. Okay, I'll get first 793 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: shot and you know, you guys can whatever. Yeah, yeah, 794 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: that's great. I mean I have I have helped people 795 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: that I've run into pack out animals. I've helped people 796 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: um hunt. There's times where I've seen something and it 797 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: wasn't something that I wanted to take, but kind of 798 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: pointed them in a direction. So just talking to each other, 799 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: being civil and understanding they're fellow hunters. They're out there. 800 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: It's not a real you know, just be common courtesy 801 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: and you should be fine. And I think if everybody 802 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: kind of keeps that in mind, the woods will be 803 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: a much more harmonious place and we'll all get along. 804 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: And then we want to have to make all these 805 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: rules to block certain people out Idaho. Just just kidding. 806 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: This question comes from Renee. It says Hi, remy new 807 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: fans on of the podcast here. I think you give 808 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: great advice. My question is what would you say is 809 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: the most important to work towards your first when you're 810 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: starting to plan towards anilk hunting trip. My brother and 811 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: I went to plan a trip and I'm starting from 812 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: ground zero. I'm having a hard time trying to figure 813 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: out where to start as far as gathering gear, tweaking 814 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: my bow, practicing, shooting, et cetera. With the amount of 815 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: knowledge that's the unfrail hunting, it starts to get a 816 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: bit overwhelming. Thanks in advance if you have time for 817 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: my question, big fan, that's a great question. I think 818 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: the first place you start is just narrowing in where 819 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: do you want, find a place to hunt, get a tag, 820 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: and honestly, you know, everybody, what's the best state for 821 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: a first ltcount where wherever is fairly close to you 822 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: and you can get a tag. I mean, it doesn't 823 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: really matter. Um if you have a tag in your hand, 824 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be your hunt and then you can start 825 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: worrying about all the other stuff. I really think too 826 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: many people are just stressed out about where do I go? 827 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: Where do I go? Where do I go? Instead of 828 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: just get go somewhere, Get get that portion of the 829 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: trip planned, because that's gonna be the first step. Now 830 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: you can start investing time into whatever area it is. 831 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people go, oh, 832 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: I want to hunt where you're hunting because you're very 833 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: successful there. It means absolutely you know, if I spent 834 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 1: the same amount of time some other place, that would 835 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: be the good hunt for me. You know, there are 836 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: areas that are better than others. But I don't necessarily 837 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: get wrapped up in that. I find a place I 838 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: want to hunt, and I hunt it, and I invest 839 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: that time into that. Everything else will then fall into place. 840 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 1: So the first step step one always get the tag, 841 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 1: Get the spot that you're gonna go to. You whether 842 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: or decide how you're gonna do it, you know you 843 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: gotta There's only certain amount of over the counter tags available, 844 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: so get one of those and and pick a spot, 845 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: and then start researching that spot, start figuring out where 846 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna go, start looking over those maps, and then 847 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 1: you start, as it gets closer, building out the gear 848 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: and all the meanwhile building up your fitness and practicing 849 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: with whatever you're gonna shoot. And I think if you 850 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: do those things in that order, you're gonna have a 851 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: successful trip, and if you're unsuccessful, you're gonna learn a 852 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of cool stuff along the way, and you're gonna 853 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: probably readjust for the next time you do it. But 854 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: just plunging in right now, figure out where you can 855 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: get a tag. By that tag, and then invest into it. 856 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: The other stuff that you're gonna need will all kind 857 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: of fall into place. The hardest steps the first one, 858 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: and that's just once you've got that tag, now you've 859 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: got somewhere to go and you can get it all 860 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: figured out, all right. Last question here comes from Tray. 861 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: He says, Remy, my wife and I just did three 862 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: night pack in deer hunt in Texas, UH and had 863 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: a great time. We went seven miles in and had 864 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: to carry all our water since there is none available 865 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: to where we were. I feel like we've packed light 866 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: and we still had a hundred pounds between us forty 867 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: two pounds of it or Watermind you, I saw a 868 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: really good buck, but wasn't as aggressive because I couldn't 869 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: imagine us getting it back out. Even on the hike 870 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: back after we had dumped the extra water weight, I 871 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: kept thinking, there's no way I could have had an 872 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: entire You're on me back? Did we just go too 873 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: far in? I'd love to hear your tips and suggestions 874 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: on planning and executing packouts. Thanks, love the show. That's 875 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: a great question. So, I mean, my my philosophy on 876 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: this is probably different than a lot of people's because 877 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: when I go in, I kind of have this mindset 878 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: that like, nothing's too far. So if I see a 879 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: deer then I'm like, Okay, that's a really long ways away. 880 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely gonna get after it, and I'm gonna try 881 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: to be successful because that's my opportunity. Um, the way 882 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: I think about it, it it is like, let's say I 883 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: got an elk down way back in there whatever. It's like, okay, yeah, 884 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: it might be days getting it out or what have you. 885 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: But there's also not like you gotta you're gonna have to. 886 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: You're gonna keep hunting, You're gonna keep expending energy. Once 887 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: you get something down, you know, now your energy is 888 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: just getting that out. So it's kind of like a 889 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: trade off, like you can keep hunting, but um, do 890 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: you know you're using that energy now to to get 891 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: something out. I think of it like maybe you went 892 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: in if it's if you're new to it and you're like, oh, 893 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: this is so far. One thing you'll figure out is 894 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: like it's difficult, but you'll probably get it done, or 895 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: you will get it done. Sometimes it might take multiple trips. Um. 896 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, I I a lot of the places I 897 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: hunt carrying water sucks. Um, what I would have done 898 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: on that particular thing is said, like, okay, this is 899 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: very difficult. I think what I would have done is done. 900 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: I would have stashed a lot of my water, like 901 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: say at the end where the deer is or whatever, 902 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: and just done a couple of stages. Um, you're clearly 903 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: far enough where you're camping, so I would have you know, 904 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: one day, packed my deer, uh like back to camp 905 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: and then maybe a mile pass camp, then set the 906 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: deer back, then kind of leap frogged it with the 907 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: water in different stations, so I'd have my water to 908 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: get out, and by the last trip, I've got my 909 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: gear and the deer and it's probably maybe like one 910 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: last push to the vehicle the last two or three 911 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: miles with all my stuff. So I would have probably 912 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: figured out a plan like that. Um, if you if 913 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: you if you see something like that and you're like, Okay, 914 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: that's too far, I don't know how I'd get it out, 915 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: then I probably wouldn't have spent my time hunting in 916 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: that area if I had that, you know, if that 917 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 1: makes sense, like where you're like, okay, it's gonna be 918 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: if we see one back here, we weren't gonna be 919 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 1: able to get it out. I just wouldn't hunt back there. 920 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: Then I would instead spend my time hunting where it's like, 921 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: I know I can get one out, because you're kind 922 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: of wasting your time almost looking for animals that you 923 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: aren't going to go after when maybe there's not as 924 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: many animals somewhere where you can get them out. Easily. 925 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: But you're probably better off looking in those areas and 926 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: not seeing anything than seeing something that you're like, I'm 927 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: not going to take that out. Um. So that's why 928 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: over the years, I've just developed this mindset that nothing's 929 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: too far. Um. I've really really really had some like 930 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: I've had some horrible packouts. I mean I've had packouts 931 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: like I mean, I could probably hundreds of packouts that 932 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: I think that really really sucked. It taxed me to 933 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: my physical limits. But I also put myself in that 934 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: situation and because of it, I was success full and 935 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: pretty stoked to them and end up doing it. But 936 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: I understand to like, if you're just getting into it, 937 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 1: maybe next time, like start out not going so far, 938 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: go to place where it's like okay, maybe a mile 939 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: or two or three, and and then hunting in that 940 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: area because you can find those places that are closer 941 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: within your limits, and then you know, working into it 942 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: that way. I think that that's a better option than 943 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 1: just going like balls out and then being back there 944 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: and being like, no, this isn't gonna work. Because I've 945 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: there's been hunts where I've been on and I've like 946 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: get back to the trailhead. I'm like, wow, man, I 947 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: would have sucked if I had to carry something from 948 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: back there. But I think me personally, I would have 949 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: done it. Um, So I don't think that. I just 950 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: think it's one of those things like planning your hunt 951 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: a little bit better next time, where you kind of know, like, Okay, 952 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: this is a lot harder than you think. And now 953 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: I also have to ahead of time factor and getting 954 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: something out and then hunting those areas where you can 955 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 1: get those things out so you don't have to pass 956 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: up something because it's in a place that's gonna be 957 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: difficult to pack out from. And that's my suggestion. I 958 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: hope that some of those questions help you guys out. Uh. 959 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: Next week, we're gonna jump into a few more stories 960 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: hopefully some tips that uh, you know, help you for 961 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: some more later season hunting. I'm looking forward to this 962 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: coming next year. Maybe some you know, some of the stuff, 963 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: the questions and suggestions. I got some more late season stuff, 964 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of small game questions, a lot of people 965 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: requesting more tips on duck hunting and other things. I 966 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: know I've talked about some duck hunting and only done 967 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: one duck hunting episode. I'm actually on my way to 968 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: go do some duck hunting up off of Kodiak Island. 969 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 1: My dad drew an Emperor Goose tag, so I'm really 970 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: looking forward to that that's gonna be later this season. 971 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: Some of the hunts that I I've still got some 972 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: some of my best hunts I think for the year 973 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: coming up, So Kodiak deer and ducks, and then archery 974 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: meal deer tag. I still got a late season archery 975 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: meal their tag, and then I've got that um Texas tag. 976 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: Might even throw in some couzy deer uh in the 977 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: Arizona area. A lot of cool late season hunts still 978 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: coming up for me, So I'm really looking forward to 979 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: some of this stuff. I know the holidays are coming 980 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: up and it's just gonna be kind of weird this 981 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: year with like COVID and everything like that. But hopefully, 982 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, maybe some people can get out and if 983 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: you if you're a big game hunter and haven't done 984 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot of small game hunting, maybe this is a 985 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: good year to to take that time where you can 986 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: get out and do some outdoor activities with some people, 987 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: uh and and try something new or if you're new 988 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: to hunting. I think there's a lot of awesome small 989 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: game opportunities, a lot of great stuff. I would say 990 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: call it late season hunting, but there's a lot of 991 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: great hunts still available from December through January, even maybe 992 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: into February depending on where you live. So a lot 993 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: of cool things to look forward to. UM. As always, 994 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: please feel free to send me your suggestions. You can 995 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: reach out Remy at the meat Eater dot com or 996 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: UM probably the easiest way because I've got all these 997 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: hunts and traveling on, moving around and outside whatever. UM 998 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: via Instagram. You can always follow some of my stuff 999 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: on there, and yes, I appreciate you guys. Thank you 1000 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: for checking it out, and we'll catch you shortly. M