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Speaker 1: SO three shows today to make up for no Observer
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Speaker 1: into here today, including hey, there's an Impact here tonight.
Speaker 1: It is the final Impact before TNA moves to AMC.
Speaker 1: How do you think TNA is gonna do on AMC.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out soon enough. That kicks off next week,
Speaker 1: which is at abut two days before their next pay
Speaker 1: per view. We have Dynamite from last night. A lot
Speaker 1: of stuff happened on the Dynamite show. SmackDown is a
Speaker 1: big show tomorrow, three Stages of Hell for the WWE
Speaker 1: Championship at eight man Tag with the Wyatts and the
Speaker 1: MFTs and more. We've got Collision coming up this weekend,
Speaker 1: and of course Worse of the wrestling World. It just
Speaker 1: moves on. And on far as News, we got an
Speaker 1: update on Logan Paul, which I made the top story
Speaker 1: because it's kind of funny. We got WWE's World Convention
Speaker 1: returning for WrestleMania forty two. We got somebody resigning with TNA.
Speaker 1: Wrestling more on Chris Jericho and Jay White and Obo Femi.
Speaker 1: In fact, he has in fact vacated the NXT title,
Speaker 1: as if that wasn't abundantly clear at the end of
Speaker 1: that that show on Tuesday. Anyway, Filthy Tom is going
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Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike simperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Man, if you ever heven just a day where you're
Speaker 1: depressed about everything going on in wrestling, just go read
Speaker 1: the newspapers from the real world and then get back
Speaker 1: here again. Well, we got a lot to talk about
Speaker 1: here today. Holy smokes, last night. I don't think anyone cares.
Speaker 1: I do, so, like the worst, the worst night of
Speaker 1: the week is Wednesday night because for whatever reason, Dave
Speaker 1: ends up not watching NXT until Wednesday, so he has
Speaker 1: to watch Dynamite and then he watches NXT and so
Speaker 1: he's never ready to do the show until like twelve
Speaker 1: thirty or one or something like that. So it's always
Speaker 1: such a late night. I'm so tired. And then it
Speaker 1: was worse because Tuesday night Hanole got like neuro virus
Speaker 1: or something and she started barfing, and uh, and she
Speaker 1: barfed till about three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 7: You sure it wasn't because of skippers.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was, dude, it doesn't matter. I mean she
Speaker 1: barfed so much, and just like every hour I was up,
Speaker 1: she barfed. I'm up again, she barfed. Then when she
Speaker 1: stopped barfing, then I had to get up again because
Speaker 1: she needed a drink of water because now she's probably dehydrated.
Speaker 1: So anyway, oh.
Speaker 8: God, And then my son hit his head and he
Speaker 8: had to get go to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a who was it was it? Fador
Speaker 1: that got sliced open like that? It's like you could
Speaker 1: just go like this and see his marginal.
Speaker 7: Belfort.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 1: So, anyway, I wake up Wednesday, I am freaking exhausted
Speaker 1: and like if you listen to yesterday's Observer Live and
Speaker 1: I'm just stumbling all over my words, like yeah, that
Speaker 1: was so Anyway, I text Dave and I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: the earliest you can go? Like, we gotta go as
Speaker 1: early as we can, so you know, he goes, he goes,
Speaker 1: I might be able to do eleven thirty. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that would be a miracle if we
Speaker 1: went at eleven thirty. So I call him at eleven
Speaker 1: thirty and he goes, yeah, I'll get ready. So, for
Speaker 1: those who don't understand Dave getting ready, there's always an
Speaker 1: additional half hour for him to print out his notes
Speaker 1: and do whatever. So at twelve o'clock, which granted it's midnight,
Speaker 1: but it's still like way earlier than usual, Dave walks
Speaker 1: over and I see him going to sit down on
Speaker 1: the couch to start the show, and everything dies. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, his internet went out. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him on the phone. Then I realized
Speaker 1: it's my internet. My Internet's down? What the heck's going on?
Speaker 1: So like, I'm trying to reboot, like my internet's dead. No,
Speaker 1: he literally just sat down early. There's no way my
Speaker 1: internet died. So I text ADMINTONI because he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: three blocks away, if my internet's down, his internet is down.
Speaker 1: So I text him as your Internet down. He doesn't
Speaker 1: say anything, you know, lol or something like that. But
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't say his internet's down. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I gotta do this show. So I call the internet
Speaker 1: company and I'm like, is there an outage?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Can I at least know if there's an outage? Lady goes, No,
Speaker 1: there's no outage. It's it's just it must be just
Speaker 1: your your internet. And so I reboot the router. I
Speaker 1: reboot the router again. She does the cycle, whatever it
Speaker 1: is to reboot the router on their end. I go
Speaker 1: down into the garage. I pull everything out of the
Speaker 1: wall and plug it back in. Nothing's working. It's now
Speaker 1: twelve forty five. I'm like, God, it's not gonna happen tonight.
Speaker 1: So I finally give up. I'm even more exhausted than ever.
Speaker 1: I message Dave, We've got to do the show tomorrow whatever.
Speaker 1: They set up a technician to come out today after
Speaker 1: one o'clock. It's just a complete disaster. Wake up this morning.
Speaker 1: The internet's on, everything's fine. Tony texts me. He's trying
Speaker 1: to set everything back up again. I said, how come
Speaker 1: you didn't tell me that your internet's down? He goes,
Speaker 1: I did. He sends me a screenshot. Turns out his
Speaker 1: message was the one message that didn't go through on
Speaker 1: my phone. If I had just known that his internet
Speaker 1: was down, I would have just gone to bed, but
Speaker 1: instead it stayed up for an extra hour trying to
Speaker 1: fix that internet. Schedule the guy to come in today,
Speaker 1: the whole shebang, and it turns out it was just
Speaker 1: an outage and they were wrong. There was an outage.
Speaker 1: So anyway, three shows today, guys. You ready?
Speaker 7: Yeah? By the way, the YouTube's not working.
Speaker 1: Don't even You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 7: No, it hasn't been on the whole time. I'm trying
Speaker 7: to figure out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know how Sun casts. What's
Speaker 1: going on? Is YouTube not working on top of everything else? Jeez,
Speaker 1: let's see what we got here. It's not like there's
Speaker 1: any news today. You know what I'm saying, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not up live. I don't know what's going on, not
Speaker 1: just isn't on. Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 7: I don't know how to start it. Eithered in.
Speaker 1: It looks like people are in the chat.
Speaker 7: Guys.
Speaker 1: Suncast has told me it's now fixed.
Speaker 7: Okay, except it's.
Speaker 1: It's not fixed here either, all right, won't figure it
Speaker 1: out YouTube. Hey, you know, next time, don't bet trolls
Speaker 1: and maybe you'll be top of the list.
Speaker 7: And to the bottom on those are my peoples.
Speaker 1: Actually they've been a little bit better lately. It still
Speaker 1: says upcoming.
Speaker 8: Well you want you want to know why because it's
Speaker 8: playing under the Wrestling Observer Radio with Dave Meltzer and Brian.
Speaker 8: It's it's playing under that one right now. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1: It's playing under yeah, yeah, okay, whatever you can find
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Speaker 1: this show every day. Yeah, it's working, but it looks
Speaker 1: like it's members only. All right, we'll fix it during
Speaker 1: the break. Everybody now talk about news. So tonight is
Speaker 1: the final t and a impact before they move to AMC.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: The main event of the AMC show next week is
Speaker 1: Frankie Czery and Mike Santana. So my guess is that
Speaker 1: the whole reason that they did that Mike Santana title
Speaker 1: loss three weeks after he won it was to make
Speaker 1: you really angry and then tune into the debut show
Speaker 1: to see him win it back. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 7: He's gonna win it. And then Nick Nevith is gonna cash.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, hey listen, Tommy, Dreamer, Lance, whoever's listening
Speaker 1: right now, don't do that. Okay, do not start the
Speaker 1: first AMC show with angry people in heat, just like don't.
Speaker 1: Then we've got Stax, Lorenzo and Steve Macklin for the
Speaker 1: international title. We got the System versus Leon Slater, Cedric
Speaker 1: Alexander and the Hardys. That mat should be awesome. Uh
Speaker 1: must of all Lee and order for addressed TNA Genesis.
Speaker 1: I'LLI just re signed with TNA, so he's sticking around.
Speaker 1: Danny Luna versus Harley Hudson and the Heartys will kick
Speaker 1: off the episode, so that'll be the Uh, that'll be
Speaker 1: the show tonight, and then the actual debut which is
Speaker 1: next next week, we got two matches announced, Frankie and
Speaker 1: Mike Santana's noted and Leon Slater defends the X title
Speaker 1: against Myron Reid. Because on Impact you can be a
Speaker 1: twenty one year old champion and a main eventor unlike
Speaker 1: somewhere else that I.
Speaker 8: Know, Brian, Yes, you are a subscriber to all of
Speaker 8: these different services that are out there, all the different
Speaker 8: streaming services, but you are not a subscriber to a
Speaker 8: cable provider or YouTube TV or one of those.
Speaker 7: How do you get AMC?
Speaker 1: How do you get AMC?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you can so it's on YouTube TV
Speaker 1: or wherever. But you can also you can you can
Speaker 1: do the TNA streaming service. You can watch it. I
Speaker 1: think AMC has a streaming service. If I record there
Speaker 1: is a plus, yes, but I mean it's on I
Speaker 1: mean most cable networks should get AMC.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but there's an increasing number of people like MI
Speaker 8: that do not have one of these cable streaming providers
Speaker 8: and instead I go a la carte.
Speaker 1: Well, you'll have to do AMC plus or I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know how much it is. I think
Speaker 1: it's like one hundred and fifty a year. And yes,
Speaker 1: if you're watching in the YouTube chat for members, yes,
Speaker 1: it did just die, so go out and we've we've
Speaker 1: opened up the free one, I believe. So that's what's
Speaker 1: going on. I told everyone we get it fixed there.
Speaker 1: That's Wrestling Observer Live with Dave Melton and Brian Alvers.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on everybody, We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Uh so, TNA has our TNA Plus streaming service.
Speaker 7: My guns aren't as big as Dave Meltzer's, but my.
Speaker 1: And then you can also get all of the pay
Speaker 1: per views on there as part of your subscription. So
Speaker 1: if you're a big fan of TNA, you should just
Speaker 1: get the TNA Plus. That's the easiest way to do it.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, that's the uh that's the story there.
Speaker 7: What is the worst value in streaming de Zonne?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the most irritating Max and Dynamite. Do
Speaker 1: you realize that Dynamite went like seventeen minutes over last night?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 1: And you know, everyone's like, well, you know, if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you don't see the end, just watch it on Max.
Speaker 1: You realize, like a lot of people don't have Max,
Speaker 1: so like you're just screwed. But anyway, maciam with more
Speaker 1: Observer Live.
Speaker 2: If you were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian
Speaker 2: Alvarez and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Al right, well we are back here on the show.
Speaker 1: Has noted on the YouTube chat which is up back
Speaker 1: working again? Is Barrel on through day? You're on Observer Live?
Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bit of information, Brian.
Speaker 1: Yes, for you and the listeners. Yes, tell us about
Speaker 1: AMC Plus.
Speaker 7: That's so.
Speaker 8: I was gonna talk about the subscription of Spice Network.
Speaker 8: But since you mention it, AMC Plus ninety five eighty
Speaker 8: eight a year a value of seven ninety nine a month,
Speaker 8: or if you want to go month to month.
Speaker 7: Nine ninety nine or six ninety nine are your options.
Speaker 1: I think the bigger story is there's still a Spice Network?
Speaker 1: Is there? Actually? Was that was gonna be real big
Speaker 1: breaking news here today. All right, SmackDown tomorrow has as
Speaker 1: uh as was noted to me three stages of heck.
Speaker 1: Actually for the WWE title, there is a straight wrestling
Speaker 1: match of falls out anywhere match in an old school cage.
Speaker 7: MATCHFI will not be involved in the first.
Speaker 1: Fall a man. That's literally what Drew asked for, a
Speaker 1: straight professional wrestling match after he's been screwed countless time.
Speaker 1: So he wants a straight match.
Speaker 7: Hey, well, at least we know what's on the up
Speaker 7: and up. It's not a put up job.
Speaker 8: William Muldoon and Tootsman are in the back trying to,
Speaker 8: you know, gimmick the finish here.
Speaker 7: We know it's a straight match. We're gonna get a
Speaker 7: real finish.
Speaker 1: Then we've got the eight man Tag, Whites and the
Speaker 1: mft S. Yes, not looking forward to that and in
Speaker 1: Rave Phoenix.
Speaker 7: But you know what, don't.
Speaker 8: Look forward to it, Brian. Don't look forward to it
Speaker 8: because the last time you didn't look forward to a
Speaker 8: Wyatts match.
Speaker 1: No, I did.
Speaker 7: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: I looked forward to the match. I just expected it
Speaker 1: to be horrible. You don't think I look forward to
Speaker 1: every match involving the Clowns. I can't think of a
Speaker 1: match I've ever not looked forward to involving the Psycho Circus.
Speaker 1: All right, a bunch of news notes here. Logan Paul
Speaker 1: claimed on his YouTube vlog that he assigned a long
Speaker 1: term WWE contract, and he claims and I think this
Speaker 1: is like the third time that he's claimed this. He's
Speaker 1: now a full timer. Yes, that's what he said. He's
Speaker 1: devoting all of his time and effort now to WWE.
Speaker 1: Didn't he say that this summer, all of it. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure he said all of this this summer.
Speaker 7: Twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 1: He says, I want to hit it hard in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. I want to become the best wrestler. I
Speaker 1: can be the best husband, father, and business partner. Let's go, baby,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. You know it might have been that. So
Speaker 1: I listen. You know, there was a thing the other day.
Speaker 1: It was actually on Monday where I was talking about
Speaker 1: somebody from WWE. After it was Tuesday, somebody after Raw
Speaker 1: was in Concussion Protocol, and I literally like six times
Speaker 1: said I don't know who it was. I'm not reporting this.
Speaker 1: I'm just speculating that it could have been. And then
Speaker 1: I went on, this was all over the internet, Brian
Speaker 1: Alverers report seehim punk and concussion Protocol. I was like,
Speaker 1: first off, of all the people, second off, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, so let me just say I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not reporting this, nerds, I don't know it's speculation, okay,
Speaker 1: but I think that Logan Paul last year had a
Speaker 1: contract with X number of dates, and I think what
Speaker 1: happened was in like late November, they realized this guy's
Speaker 1: got like six matches left, so that's why he was
Speaker 1: wrestling every single If you remember, he was wrestling every
Speaker 1: single week on Raw for like the end of the year.
Speaker 1: So I think it was just catching up on dates
Speaker 1: that he owed them for twenty twenty five. But if
Speaker 1: you watched it, it was very clear that there is
Speaker 1: a He's very talented and he's very athletic, but there
Speaker 1: is a huge difference between Logan Paul, who has several
Speaker 1: weeks to you know, prepare for a match and go
Speaker 1: over the match and blah blah blah, and the Logan
Speaker 1: Paul who shows up the day of the show and
Speaker 1: has a new match every week for five weeks. He
Speaker 1: looked like a guy that probably should still be in
Speaker 1: developmental So maybe that opened his eyes and he realized,
Speaker 1: you know what, I actually need to like go, I
Speaker 1: need to get working here because I still got a
Speaker 1: ways to go. But he says he's a full timer now,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. Yes, he took a deep breath say it.
Speaker 1: Don't be afraid.
Speaker 7: You know, he should use more of is his amateur
Speaker 7: wrestling skills.
Speaker 1: He should.
Speaker 7: He grew up as.
Speaker 8: An amateur wrestler, and he should rely on that a
Speaker 8: little bit more instead of all the acrobatics.
Speaker 7: There we go.
Speaker 1: Is that right? So he got out of that.
Speaker 7: It's my advice.
Speaker 1: WWE World Convention it's returning for WrestleMania forty two, take
Speaker 1: place over five days April sixteenth through April twentieth, That
Speaker 1: is Thursday through Monday of WrestleMania weeks. Tickets are going
Speaker 1: on sale next week with a WrestleMania forty two ticket
Speaker 1: holders and previous attendees getting pre sale access. General public
Speaker 1: on sale will begin Friday, January sixteenth. So this is
Speaker 1: the old, the former access, et cetera. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: having a new addition to WWE World this year, Hulkamania
Speaker 1: Forever Showcase, honoring the late Hulk Hogan. So that's the story.
Speaker 8: The excuse me? What do you think is gonna be
Speaker 8: in that exhibit? Oh, come on, get a chug some
Speaker 8: real American beer.
Speaker 1: They'll have some Uh.
Speaker 7: Do you get to drop some racist quotes?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: A safe space, get to take a picture next to
Speaker 1: a wax statue of him. I'm sure they'll have some
Speaker 1: of his boots and belts and big picture of him
Speaker 1: slamming Andre all those legendary moments for those ninety three
Speaker 1: and seventy three fans at the at the Dome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jay White still not medically cleared. He showed up at
Speaker 1: the Tokyo Dome and physically he looked good. I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't look like any issues walking or I don't
Speaker 1: even know what the injury is. He had that that
Speaker 1: foot injury, came back from that, got injured again, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what the injury was, but I have
Speaker 1: been told and I don't know what it means, but
Speaker 1: like he'll be back this year. That's a long time.
Speaker 1: So uh. It was a hand injury, hand injury and
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. So that was That was March, however, so
Speaker 1: it's been a real long time, so hopefully everything gets
Speaker 1: worked out. And he did have a foot injury, so yes,
Speaker 1: that's true. So he's had multiple injuries, which I feel
Speaker 1: bad for that guy because wrestling is so weird in
Speaker 1: the sense that he doesn't work a dangerous style at all.
Speaker 1: He's just like a great worker. I mean he's more
Speaker 1: an old school worker than a lot of guys.
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, but he was wrestling that new Japan
Speaker 8: main event style. It's not like this guy hasn't been
Speaker 8: suplex a million times.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you look at he may not be.
Speaker 8: Taking serious acrobatic risks in many of his matches, but
Speaker 8: I mean he and he goes at a hard pace.
Speaker 1: He does. But let's look at a Darby Allen. You know,
Speaker 1: what is he had in terms of injuries?
Speaker 7: I don't want to look at him.
Speaker 1: Almost almost nothing.
Speaker 7: And then there's like, what what Brian?
Speaker 8: We can no longer say that Darby Allen's in and
Speaker 8: out of the injured list.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking about when's the last time he missed
Speaker 1: six months due to a surgery or something. I don't know.
Speaker 8: The guy took six months off to go climb a mountain,
Speaker 8: climbed exactly kind.
Speaker 7: Of injured, then.
Speaker 8: Healed up, came back, got injured, got injured again, got
Speaker 8: injured again.
Speaker 1: He has had a lot of shorter term talking broken bones.
Speaker 8: Surgery, et aver No from CMLL, he doesn't get injured.
Speaker 1: To pick him, dude, pick John Moxley. That guy wrestles
Speaker 1: every week, like almost twice a week.
Speaker 7: He looks like he can barely walk.
Speaker 1: He does look like he can barely move, but goll lee,
Speaker 1: that guy's out there every week. He's a maniac.
Speaker 7: I've been there. John Moxley's on his way to a
Speaker 7: hip replacement.
Speaker 1: I'm sure imagine he's gonna probably have everything replaced by
Speaker 1: the time all is sudd and done. But anyway, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be back for a while. So all the
Speaker 1: best to h to j White. W W did confirm,
Speaker 1: although I don't think this needed confirmation, that Oba has
Speaker 1: vacated the NXT time. Yeah, he's vacated the NXT title.
Speaker 1: And if you watch the show, oddly enough, what you
Speaker 1: saw on television actually was what everybody saw in the building.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What they did was he was standing there posing like
Speaker 1: we saw on TV, and then they turned all the
Speaker 1: lights off to show the video on the big screen.
Speaker 1: And then when the video was almost over, they turned
Speaker 1: the lights on and the belt is just sitting there
Speaker 1: in the middle of the ring and the fans starts screaming,
Speaker 1: and that's when they had what's his face rush in
Speaker 1: and tells, yeah, Robertsone tells Ava, you'll never guess what you.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, did you see what happened? Of course not.
Speaker 7: She wasn't watching the main event of the show.
Speaker 1: Nobody saw what happened. It was in the dark. So anyway,
Speaker 1: he he's vacated the title, going to the main roster,
Speaker 1: gonna get a huge push. Obviously, what everyone is expecting
Speaker 1: is that he's going to interfere in the Drew McIntyre
Speaker 1: match on SmackDown, because they had that Oba Femi Cody
Speaker 1: match and Drew interfered, and then they have the three
Speaker 1: stages of heck tomorrow. And very interesting that news dropped
Speaker 1: today that Oba Femi is gonna go to Raw. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that is fake news. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's not gonna happen. Maybe it is, but I
Speaker 1: do find it very interesting that the day before everybody
Speaker 1: expects him to interfere in that match, word broke that
Speaker 1: he's gonna go to the other brand. I think there's
Speaker 1: a decent chance that they're trying to trying to swerve everybody,
Speaker 1: and he will interfere tomorrow, but we'll see.
Speaker 7: You know what I would like to see happen, Brian,
Speaker 7: What's that I don't think it will.
Speaker 8: But after Ethan Page's promo, I love this promo talking
Speaker 8: about defending that title, the North American title. We talked
Speaker 8: about it the other day. Just get rid of that
Speaker 8: NXT World title.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did talk about that.
Speaker 8: And we can have the NXT International title as the
Speaker 8: top belt held by Ethan Page.
Speaker 7: And then that'll also be at the top of the
Speaker 7: wrestling SEO search engines as they would love. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Network tom has an update before we do. That, GUYS
Speaker 1: i can say hell on the. Radio i'm saying three
Speaker 1: stages of heck because these are not hellish stipulations a
Speaker 1: straight wrestling. Match why DO i have to explain? This? Tom? Please?
Speaker 7: Please what go on your? Update for?
Speaker 1: SAKE i mean the.
Speaker 8: People the people have been waiting to find. Out but
Speaker 8: Apparently SPICE tv is still. Around, no it's not operating
Speaker 8: only In South.
Speaker 7: Korea only In South.
Speaker 1: Korea? Wow?
Speaker 7: Interesting, Say, hey Those South koreans they love Their western.
Speaker 1: Culture So i'm glad you spent all that time during
Speaker 1: the break investigating.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: Tom thank you.
Speaker 8: WELL i spent like ten seconds investigating it and then
Speaker 8: about two minutes looking at you know.
Speaker 1: Evidence, hey can we do this dynamite?
Speaker 7: Report, yeah go for. IT i don't have Any does
Speaker 7: you have no? Notes this isn't my?
Speaker 1: Beat, WELL i, know BUT i mean we talked about this,
Speaker 1: yesterday SO i thought you'd do. IT i can do.
Speaker 7: It eleven at. NIGHT i can do.
Speaker 1: It it was earlier than. That it was in the,
Speaker 1: afternoon wasn't.
Speaker 8: It the show doesn't air until my, Time so what
Speaker 8: are you talking?
Speaker 7: About?
Speaker 1: NO i asked you in the. Afternoon, Geek, no that's not.
Speaker 7: True, really don't make me go do.
Speaker 8: This, well we had Aew. DYNAMITE i couldn't tell you
Speaker 8: the order of which did not just. Happen IF i
Speaker 8: remember most of them going, DOWN i think it started
Speaker 8: with did it start With Shelton benjamin And John?
Speaker 1: MOXLEY i did ask you at eight sixteen. Pm it
Speaker 1: was too, late all, Right, well the show opened up.
Speaker 1: Everybody it was a pretty good addition To. DYNAMITE i liked.
Speaker 1: It Jim, ross it was introduced to the hometown. Crowd
Speaker 1: did the entire, show AND i thought you did a good.
Speaker 1: Job we had a pre tape from except for there
Speaker 1: was one exception THAT i got to bring up, later
Speaker 1: which wasn't, exception but he was my spirit. Animal so
Speaker 1: we had a pre tape Where renee alerted as a
Speaker 1: Jet speed had been beaten up and couldn't, compete And
Speaker 1: Don Callous Ricochet gates Of agony showed up and it
Speaker 1: was revealed That.
Speaker 7: Jake Doyle Doyle, rules.
Speaker 1: The Former Jake something And Mark davis beat them up
Speaker 1: and they're now apparently a tag. Team.
Speaker 8: Yeah at one time shared a room with This Jake,
Speaker 8: doyle AND i didn't know WHO i was rooming. With you,
Speaker 8: know a lot of times he's just you end up
Speaker 8: in a wrestling. Show oh you check.
Speaker 7: IN i.
Speaker 8: WENT i didn't know who was in. There there's just some.
Speaker 8: LUGGAGE i go in the. Bathroom there was like a
Speaker 8: full live e walk in the tub because apparently he
Speaker 8: had taken a shower and then left the.
Speaker 1: Room holy, Crap Harry Guy, ungodly it's actually incredible how
Speaker 1: much him and him And Mark davis look, alike, right
Speaker 1: well kind of, well not physique, wise but everything.
Speaker 7: Else, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's calling you now is he? Listening and he's, LIKE
Speaker 1: i can't Believe tom refiled that.
Speaker 8: Information, well one looks like The Jim class superstar and
Speaker 8: one looks like The Jim class.
Speaker 7: Teacher.
Speaker 1: Wow we Had John Moxeine Shelton ben in an eliminator.
Speaker 1: Match so as a, MATCH i thought the match was really.
Speaker 1: Great but this is one of the, things it's not even,
Speaker 1: aw BUT aw seems to be the one that irritates
Speaker 1: me the. Most everybody always has to make everything more
Speaker 1: complicated than it needs to, be the rules of these
Speaker 1: eliminator matches are now it's a twenty minute time. Limit
Speaker 1: if you can't beat the champion in twenty, minutes you're
Speaker 1: rewarded with a title match with a twenty minute time.
Speaker 1: Limit this doesn't make any.
Speaker 10: Sense, okay well you know you say, That, brian BUT
Speaker 10: i read a lot of wrestling history and there are
Speaker 10: so many matches that are similar to, this where it's
Speaker 10: like a guy has to throw a guy five times
Speaker 10: in an.
Speaker 7: Hour it's noteen.
Speaker 1: Seventy, four, dude it's fricking twenty twenty. Five, Like, so,
Speaker 1: anyway the rules are if you if it goes to
Speaker 1: a draw for your, book if it goes to a,
Speaker 1: Draw i've Read carl's book to if it goes to a,
Speaker 1: draw the non champion gets a title. Match, okay how
Speaker 1: did you read his book?
Speaker 7: Twice that book's like eight hundred.
Speaker 1: PAGES i got a lot of spare. Time so, anyway number,
Speaker 1: one would you shut? Up so it's a twenty minute time.
Speaker 1: Limit if you go twenty minutes and can't beat the,
Speaker 1: champion you're rewarded with a championship. Match, however if you're
Speaker 1: both outside the ring and you both get counted, out
Speaker 1: which is also a, draw you don't get a rematch
Speaker 1: for the, title so they tease it's gonna go to
Speaker 1: the time, limit and then with five seconds, Left moxley
Speaker 1: stacks him out of a triangle and pins. Him the
Speaker 1: best part of this match was ACTUALLY, mvp who is
Speaker 1: in fact a black belt in jiu. Jitsu he Sees
Speaker 1: Shelton benjamin put on a triangle and gets stacked and
Speaker 1: pinned and on the. Outside you've never seen a man so.
Speaker 1: Depressed this is the coach of a guy who's like
Speaker 1: his dude went to the finals In Abu dhabi and
Speaker 1: got beat with some stupid. Move his head is in his,
Speaker 1: hands who's shaking his? HEAD i thought he was just
Speaker 1: gonna quit the. Business he was so.
Speaker 8: Sad he was on commentary talking about how they worked
Speaker 8: on that triangle. Choke he locked it up and then
Speaker 8: that's what led to his. Downfall so how as a.
Speaker 8: Coach as a, coach you should be.
Speaker 1: Distraught we Had Kenny omega announced as returning next. Week
Speaker 1: we Had rikoshet in The gates Of agony Versus Jack
Speaker 1: perry and the Returning Young. Bucks bucks are total. Babyfaces
Speaker 1: they got their entrance, back they got The, piro they
Speaker 1: got the whole. Shebang total old school aw party, match
Speaker 1: and at the end they all triple Teamed ricochet And
Speaker 1: Jack perry pinned him and we'll be, Getting i'm sure
Speaker 1: a championship. Match but then they Had davis And doyle
Speaker 1: hitting the ring to destroy the baby faces and And
Speaker 1: Jet speed ran down with hockey sticks to make THIS.
Speaker 1: Sa then the light squout and they come back. On
Speaker 1: do you remember that angle they did years ago IN,
Speaker 1: tna WHICH i think they've actually done a few, times
Speaker 1: where there's a guy in the crowd with a sting mask, on,
Speaker 1: yes and then he punches somebody and then he takes
Speaker 1: off the sting max and it's.
Speaker 7: Sting.
Speaker 1: Yes, well we have the light squout and the lights
Speaker 1: come back, on and there's a guy in Androde helo's
Speaker 1: outfit and mask and then he takes a mask off
Speaker 1: and it Is androte, okay so he's. Back he's. Free
Speaker 1: and the Don cols family now has by my, account
Speaker 1: two one hundred and fifty nine. Members it's.
Speaker 7: Crazy good to see the young bucks are quickly.
Speaker 1: Recovered they sure.
Speaker 8: Are just a week ago they were not cleared for
Speaker 8: the rest of twenty twenty, five.
Speaker 1: Time off Over christmas and then uh and then THE
Speaker 1: ftr came out and stared down, everybody and they noted
Speaker 1: THAT ftr And andrada used to be long time tag. Partners.
Speaker 1: YEAH i was, like, HUH i have no memory of this,
Speaker 1: whatsoever but at least they reminded us that apparently it. Happened,
Speaker 1: yeah but.
Speaker 8: They just they just went out there and like looked at,
Speaker 8: him like they gave him a stern, look And ondred
Speaker 8: it was, like, oh, YEAH i remember these.
Speaker 7: Guys it was so.
Speaker 1: Bizarre sperson hear goes The callous family should. Start, Well,
Speaker 1: NO i wonder If brian And tom would ever join
Speaker 1: the Don callis. Family, HONESTLY i think that if you
Speaker 1: got a print out of who's in the Don kellis,
Speaker 1: FAMILY i think there's a decent chance chopping' Roll express
Speaker 1: would be on there.
Speaker 7: Somehow i'm actually In Voodoo murders really. Yeah, wow AND
Speaker 7: R o AND D willow came.
Speaker 1: Out willow came out for a victory. CELEBRATION i didn't
Speaker 1: think her promo was very. Good and then she called Out,
Speaker 1: mercedes And mercedes came out and she was wearing a
Speaker 1: morning outfit but it was white and not. Black and
Speaker 1: then she got in the ring And willow starts cutting
Speaker 1: this promo on her and there's a cake in the,
Speaker 1: ring And willow asked her to eat cake with, him
Speaker 1: and So mercedes starts tearing apart this table in a,
Speaker 1: fury and like she doesn't make a big deal out of.
Speaker 1: It Stat lanner just very calmly picks up the cake
Speaker 1: and she takes it off the. Table nobody wants the
Speaker 1: cake to be. Destroyed and Then mercedes goes After, willow
Speaker 1: but she misses and her face goes into the, cake
Speaker 1: and then with her face in the, cake all the
Speaker 1: baby faces Like Triple teamer three on one And powerbomber
Speaker 1: onto the, cake AND i was, like, man that was,
Speaker 1: rude not very. Nice and for some reason they turned
Speaker 1: the lights off and then like they just kept him
Speaker 1: off through this entire segment and it was. UNWATCHABLE i
Speaker 1: think it was a lighting, issue but it was. Irritating
Speaker 1: it happened later, too Which i'll talk about why that
Speaker 1: was even more. Irritating so Then Mark brisco as his
Speaker 1: match with that She Sarah. Saturday they hyped that. Up
Speaker 1: we had A triangle Of madness, promo hold.
Speaker 7: On hold, On you're gonna gloss.
Speaker 8: Over Mark brisco doing The hechicero alchemy taut.
Speaker 1: He did this guy's. Great we had A triangle Of
Speaker 1: madness promo and thank God tekla was. There then we
Speaker 1: Had bandido And Sammy, guevara which was a good. Match
Speaker 1: you can stop, already the camera's not even. On you
Speaker 1: had a good match and went back and, forth and
Speaker 1: then finally sam he hit the back suplex and THE
Speaker 1: Ddt bandido kicked. Out bendido flipped him over into a
Speaker 1: big knee twenty one, plex would you stop? It and
Speaker 1: got the. Pin it's a good. Match then we HAD
Speaker 1: mgf come down of the ring With John cruise and
Speaker 1: he's in there to hype up the match With, bandido
Speaker 1: And John cruise does a translation of everything that he.
Speaker 1: Said so this segment went twice as long as it needed.
Speaker 1: TO mjf, Talks John cruise, TRANSLATES mjf, Talks John cruise,
Speaker 1: translates and finally the, End bendito just grabs some mic
Speaker 1: and he, GOES i can Speak english AT mgf kicks him.
Speaker 1: Low he steals the ring, back but he goes to
Speaker 1: clabrehom accidentally Hits cruise took a great. Bump bendido KICKS
Speaker 1: mgf low takes the ring back and then hit both
Speaker 1: guys with the twenty one, plex so fun little angle to,
Speaker 1: like you, know the heel got His AND i THINK
Speaker 1: i would say THAT i think we know the match
Speaker 1: is gonna go next week, Now BUT i think we
Speaker 1: all knew who the match was gonna go before this
Speaker 1: segment even took. Place BUT i enjoyed. It we Had
Speaker 1: Tony storm And. Marina this was not. Good match wasn't.
Speaker 1: Good and Then tony hits a big package after selling
Speaker 1: the entire. Match she doesn't even get a. Comeback she
Speaker 1: hits one big. Package wheeler pulls the referee out of the,
Speaker 1: ring which happens on every single show, everywhere don't but today.
Speaker 1: Started it's a. Disqualification, yeah you know who the ref.
Speaker 8: Was you know who the ref was who decided this
Speaker 8: was A he Decided wheeler dah pulling his, foot not
Speaker 8: touching any of the people in the, ring not using
Speaker 8: for an. Object you know what ref decided this was.
Speaker 8: Enough Paul, turner the man who stared At Kazuchka okada
Speaker 8: as he attacked To keshua with a screw driver and
Speaker 8: stabbed him in the freaking.
Speaker 11: Face he let that. Go he was more concerned with
Speaker 11: the checking to see if the ropes were. Wet but
Speaker 11: Here Willer dah trying to tie the guy's. Shoe he decues.
Speaker 7: Him what Is Paul turner?
Speaker 1: Doing maybe it's a, Maybe maybe the sickos will tell
Speaker 1: you it's long term. Booking tom just wait and see
Speaker 1: had a pop Promo tarantis of a W pak told
Speaker 1: That darby he wasn't getting his, Match So darby threatening
Speaker 1: to break his leg And pap gave it to, them
Speaker 1: so that match is coming. Up This darby came off
Speaker 1: as a total. Criminal then we had the lights out.
Speaker 1: Match at least he's not Injured swerve And, hangman he
Speaker 1: wasn't actually Versus hobbs And Hook and so this is
Speaker 1: what irritated me so, Earlier like everyone's saying it must
Speaker 1: have been a lighting, Issue like you turn the lights,
Speaker 1: off it takes forever for them to come back. On
Speaker 1: that's what happened during The willow. Segment, okay, fine if
Speaker 1: that's the, case why In god's names you turn the
Speaker 1: lights off again? Here because it took five minutes for
Speaker 1: them to come back, on and these guys worked the
Speaker 1: first five minutes or so of this. Match it's. Darkness
Speaker 1: you can't see a. Thing i'm, like oh my, god
Speaker 1: they better turn these fricking lights back on in this
Speaker 1: lights out. Match and they finally, did by the grace Of.
Speaker 1: God and so they do this match and you, know
Speaker 1: the one Thing i'll say about aw is they. Deliver
Speaker 1: they had cinder, blocks they had like all of. THIS i,
Speaker 1: mean there was a spot where like Hangman page Gave
Speaker 1: hobbes the uh dead eye one of these cinder. Blocks
Speaker 1: looked like he freaking killed the guy and destroyed both
Speaker 1: of his.
Speaker 7: Knees, yeah it was a swerve stomp with the dead.
Speaker 1: Eye so they keep going back and forth and uh
Speaker 1: and finally right.
Speaker 7: Hold, on.
Speaker 8: He gave him a swerve stomp and a dead eye
Speaker 8: on top of the cinder.
Speaker 7: Blocks.
Speaker 1: Yeah and then they went back and forth and they
Speaker 1: kept going and Finally. Jr at the top of his
Speaker 1: lungs just goes get it over with as we're sixteen
Speaker 1: minutes into the, overrun and finally buckshot and they. Hung,
Speaker 1: uh they hung the hook and he gave up and
Speaker 1: that was. That back in them with More Observer, live.
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