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Speaker 1: Oh do we have a show today? It is Friday.

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Speaker 1: What a night of sports. God bless American and what

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Speaker 1: it grants us. Dodgers, Phillies, all time finish, Eagles, Giants.

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Speaker 1: I was saying to myself last night, I'm watching them.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm gonna leave with the Dodgers. I'm watching

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Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, the Giants, Eagles will come back and win.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm like, oh oh, we got a story

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Speaker 1: in New York. Oh my, oh my, Jamact blazing five

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Speaker 1: and one hour off a winning week. We both had

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Speaker 1: good week. Not a good last night, good week week.

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Speaker 1: Last night I told you, I told you to beware

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Speaker 1: last night. These division games are crazy. I want to

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Speaker 1: start with this. Last night was not about the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Saquon average five yards of carry, season high in yards.

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown got touches it was not about the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: That's not what last night. Well, I'm not gonna open

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Speaker 1: the show criticizing the Eagles. Last night was about the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants. They have found their franchise quarterback. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be bumpy. You're gonna have weeks like last week

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have last night if they can keep

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Speaker 1: him healthy, confident, athletic, slippery, big boy NFL throws. That

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Speaker 1: is an NFL franchise quarterback feet arm confidence. Once you

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Speaker 1: get that right, Giant fans, such like when you found Eli,

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Speaker 1: gets much easier to build the roster. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Giants last night are missing their number one receiver and

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Speaker 1: the number two receiver and they scored thirty four points.

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Speaker 1: I know you all loved Obj and you love Malik

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Speaker 1: Neighbors Come Mbra though, that's icing the cake. It's Camp

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Speaker 1: Skataboo and Jackson Dart because of the way they play.

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Speaker 1: They're tough, they're young, they're physical in the Northeast because

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Speaker 1: of the weather. Tyreek Hill is not winning your titles.

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Speaker 1: Your left tackle is your star back January. Football is

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Speaker 1: not decided by the fastest guys. Jackson Dart's tough Camp's

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Speaker 1: Scataboo's tougher. If you can keep Andrew Thomas the left

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Speaker 1: tackle healthy, you got your three guys. That's going to

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Speaker 1: be your future. So the New York Giants have not

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Speaker 1: had an offensive identity in a decade. In a decade,

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Speaker 1: the rookies. Let's let Jackson and camp Scataboo. It's their offense.

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Speaker 1: Since then, the Giants lead the NFL in first downs,

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Speaker 1: doing it. Is a Northeast physical football team. Go to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots dynasty. They never won when they were at

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Speaker 1: their flashiest with Randy Moss. Those were the years they

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Speaker 1: didn't win. They won early when they were tough physically,

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Speaker 1: Brady and Gronk and always great on third down. Giants

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Speaker 1: fun to watch. Again, I like Malik Neighbors. Obj was fun.

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Speaker 1: That is icing the cake in Northeast football. When the

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Speaker 1: Steelers were great. It was defense and Big Ben, the

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Speaker 1: best Peyton Manning Colts team ever, could run the ball

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Speaker 1: It's physical overflash. It is stakeover sizzle. There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: that's last Night's not about the Eagles falling apart. I

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Speaker 1: then identify what you are. You can't do that without

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Speaker 3: You go through some tough times. Sometimes you can get

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Speaker 1: They're tough. Northeast Football Championship Football. Find me, find me

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Speaker 1: the warm Weather dynasty in the NFL. Dolphins have never

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Speaker 1: had one, Carolina has never had one, Arizona's never had one.

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Speaker 1: Rams a big good, not a dynasty. Find me one.

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Speaker 1: Find me the warm Weather NFL dynasty. Marino and Don

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Speaker 1: Shula won Super Bowl one, Peyton manning Indy one to

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Speaker 1: Brady twice. What was it about that defensive front? That's

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Speaker 1: what I watched last night. That one handed catch years ago.

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Speaker 1: That's just a moment. Okay, so last night. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was amazing about last night is you had seven

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Speaker 3: it throws it away, and the Dodgers have won.

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Speaker 5: Of time to go to first even though we bobbled this,

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Speaker 1: Should have gone to first base. Right bouncer, boom, first base.

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Speaker 1: You're out. But that's what the Dodgers do. They get

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Speaker 1: seventeen in the series, O Tawni, and they walked him

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Speaker 1: Munsey Freeman, Edmund Tioscar Hernandez. Constant pressure. Dodgers didn't even

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Speaker 1: It's constant pressure. Then rokis Asaki came on and the Dodgers'

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Speaker 1: last night, untouchable. So the Dodgers are now in the

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Speaker 1: buck eighty twelve strikeouts. That's what the Dodgers are. We

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers are reliant on no single player. Otawani. The

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Speaker 1: last two years, he has struggled in the postseason. I

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Speaker 1: mean last year it was Freddy Freeman in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: I mean earlier this year, Mookie Bets got sick, couldn't

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Speaker 1: they put it's almost like KD Steph Clan Draymond remember,

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Speaker 1: for about three years, like pick your poison, Who's hot tonight?

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Speaker 1: There were games Draymond took over. There were games Klaye

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Speaker 1: Thompson hit six of eight threes. Who do you guard?

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Speaker 1: Who is it tonight? That's what it is with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: It was their young pitcher throwing one oh one, a

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Speaker 1: it was the crowd. It was the crowd. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: O Tawny, it wasn't Freeman. It was the crowd and

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Speaker 1: the pressure and it's never ending, and they keep putting

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Speaker 1: that sent the Dodgers to the NLCS. It's brutal.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, they played great defense tonight, and you know, it's

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Speaker 5: one of those things that it's a PfP, a pitchers

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Speaker 1: League Baseball, but in that spot, against that team and

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Speaker 1: they're in your head, you lose yourself. The Phillies did,

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Speaker 1: the postseason, I mean, think about all the great hitters,

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Speaker 1: It's so much of its pitching, so much of it's circumstantial,

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Speaker 1: another way because this is what they do. I've said

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Speaker 1: this before. I think the Dodgers are the best run

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Speaker 1: sports organization in North America. Drafting, developing, free agency. They

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Speaker 1: just don't miss very often. Jay Meg, great show to

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Speaker 1: a blazing five top of the hour, Camp Scataboo's doing

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Speaker 1: flips in the end zone. He is fun man. Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Basically, Jackson Darts turning into Jeremy Lynn in New York.

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Speaker 6: He's a brush fire that everybody's excited about. If you

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Speaker 6: think he's your franchise quarterback, you got another thing coming.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: He's a nice story, Colin, let's be real. Come on,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a little better than that. Oh okay.

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Speaker 6: I love Jeremy Lynn during his time. It's awesome, But

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Speaker 6: I mean Dart is way too reckless on the script. Well,

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Speaker 6: he's gonna get murdered out there. He's got a Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean that's part of it. I think it's I mean,

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Speaker 6: remember Baker Mayfield in his second or third year in Cleveland,

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Speaker 6: I said this before though, before the season started. I said,

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Speaker 6: Jackson Dart was in college with Lane Kiffen for three years.

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Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin's coach in the pros. Lane's an elite offensive coach.

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Speaker 6: If you're with Lane Kiffen for three years in the SEC,

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Speaker 6: against those NFL level defenses, NFL players everywhere, you don't

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Speaker 6: need to sit for a year. This is not like

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Speaker 6: BYU football, you're a year starter. This is Jackson Dart

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Speaker 6: started in the SEC with Lane Kiffen for three years.

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Speaker 6: The Russell Wilson thing was nice. I think you saw

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Speaker 6: Brian Dable rushing to the tenth. He wanted Jackson Dart

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Speaker 6: Let's get started with the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 6: Colin that listen, there's three and oh amazing, it's backup quarterback.

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Speaker 6: But last year at this time, like Jake Browning was

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Speaker 6: Oh boy, this Bill Belichick stuff. It's snowballing in North Carolina, Colin.

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Speaker 6: Final story, Colin is the Cubs last night interesting game.

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Speaker 6: I think every offseason I'm gonna bet the Dodgers to

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Speaker 6: win the World Series. They spend the most money, right,

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Speaker 6: and they had the best players and by the way,

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Speaker 6: well run organization. They had a major dilemma, and they

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Speaker 6: so mixed it. They take their young starter, twenty three

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Speaker 6: year old kid that throws a splitter that's unhittable. They

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Speaker 6: move him to the end, the back end the bullpen,

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Speaker 6: and what do you know, They've solved their issue. Now

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Speaker 6: they're gonna need somebody else. You can't you can't have

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Speaker 6: them go three innings night after night. But when you

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Speaker 6: watch the Dodgers last night, it's not that they want,

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Speaker 6: it's how they won. It's like the Giants won last night.

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Speaker 1: That's not it. It's how the Giants won. Physicality quarterback Skataboo.

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Speaker 1: That's an identity. The Dodgers winning this series and none

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Speaker 1: of their stars hit like that's that is. And Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: is really good. This Philly lineup had the National League

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Speaker 1: hitting champ, one of the best ra starting staffs, Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 1: the home run champ. I thought Philadelphia was gonna win

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Speaker 1: the series. I thought they were gonna win games late

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Speaker 1: to the Dodgers' bullpen. So your Brewers, Mariners, it's in jeopardy. Tigers,

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Speaker 1: by the way, have the better pitcher going in there

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Speaker 1: deciding game. I'll tell you the Brewers and the Mariners

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Speaker 1: World Series call is in jeopardy. It just everything just

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Speaker 1: flipped in like the last forty eight hours. It's chaos. Yeah, God,

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Speaker 1: sports is great fun. I mean we could be in

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Speaker 1: the political business and be every all the time and

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Speaker 1: have grievance every day. No J Mack with the news,

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Speaker 1: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 1: herd Line News. God, it's just crazy. Last night, what

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Speaker 1: a night. I would pay good money to listen to

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's sports talk radio this morning. That's a Barnyard musical,

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot of talk. Uh a Cam Scataboo

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Speaker 1: had three touchdowns, nineteen carries, almost one hundred yards, and

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Speaker 1: you know people are saying I was looking this morning online. Hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: how did this guy fall to the fourth round? How

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Speaker 1: was he the eighth running back taken? Well, ask yourself this,

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Speaker 1: what is his comp A backflipping five to nine running

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Speaker 1: back that came from a conference that doesn't tackle. What

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Speaker 1: was his comp I mean out of high school, he

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Speaker 1: had to go to Sacramento State. I mean I watched

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Speaker 1: them at Arizona State. I thought he was kind of

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Speaker 1: a novelty. I thought he'd make the NFL. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think he'd be this. I mean Brock Purty seventh round.

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Speaker 1: I watched them at Iowa State. Bucky Irving, a great

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Speaker 1: running back for Tampa. Fifth round. Puka Nakoula fifth rount.

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Speaker 1: I watched Puka Nakua out of high school in Utah.

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Speaker 1: I watched them at Washington, I watched them at VYU.

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Speaker 1: I never thought Puka Nakulah was arguably the second or

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Speaker 1: third best receiver in the league. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: An AFC's executive told Lance Zurline before the draft, quote,

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Speaker 1: you hear guys say I'm built different. Usually it's all talk.

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Speaker 1: This guy is built differently. He sees and plays the

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Speaker 1: game like a linebacker. So NFL general managers always ask

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Speaker 1: their scouting departments find me the comp. I used to

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Speaker 1: talk to Rich McKay about this, who now is the

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Speaker 1: president of the Falcons, when he was a GM, and

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Speaker 1: he said, I always asked, my guy, give me three comps.

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Speaker 1: Who is he in our sport? Because college football there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys like t Bow that aren't really

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Speaker 1: NFL players, the great college players. What's his camp? His

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Speaker 1: comp is in nineteen seventy four NFL fullback with speed,

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Speaker 1: so he didn't have one. It's it's jelly roll in music.

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Speaker 1: Did you see him the first time and think superstar?

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Speaker 1: Not everybody has a comp And the one thing I'll

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Speaker 1: say about him, the kid is really athletic. He had

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Speaker 1: a thirty nine and a half inch vertical case. That's

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Speaker 1: an NBA vertical, a thirty nine and a half inch vertical,

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Speaker 1: So at the combine, the kid is athletic. But I

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Speaker 1: watch a lot of college football. I watched him play

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Speaker 1: I don't know six ten times. I didn't think it

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Speaker 1: would be this. I mean, did Arizona State think he

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Speaker 1: would be that dominant when they got him out of

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Speaker 1: Sacramento State. He is one hundred percent raw energy and

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Speaker 1: it just works for an organization that was looking for

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Speaker 1: exactly that. And here is a cam after the win

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Speaker 1: being him.

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Speaker 8: Do a lot of things on the side together, talk

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Speaker 8: a lot together about, you know, kind of getting this

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Speaker 8: turned around, not doing it on our own, but getting

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Speaker 8: everyone to buy in and continue to stay positive and

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Speaker 8: work to be better.

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Speaker 1: You know that the franchise has been a losing franchise

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but that's not who we

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Speaker 1: are right now. We need to continue to build and

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Speaker 1: build and build each.

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Speaker 8: And every day and have these guys with positive mindsets

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Speaker 8: and you know, get away from that losing mindset.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean the truth is he is really

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Speaker 1: a unique physical player. He's five to nine backflipping, can

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Speaker 1: turn the corner thirty nine and a half inch vertical.

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Speaker 1: I watched him, I thought, you know, if he had

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Speaker 1: become t Bow, which is wildly popular because the nickname

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Speaker 1: and the style, but you're like, yeah, I just can't

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Speaker 1: quite turn the corner. In the NFL, I would have

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Speaker 1: been like, yeah, when they scored touchdowns last night, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles needed the push push they needed. Cam is that

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Speaker 1: he was scoring on the when he was getting hit

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Speaker 1: at the line. If he's not a member of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: they're having to have kickfield goals. I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: literally burrowing over three hundred and thirty pound guys. So

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Speaker 1: and I again, it's not just that he's good, it's

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Speaker 1: his style that matters. The Northeast is about toughness. The

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Speaker 1: weather gets I mean it's getting cold today in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: it's getting cold out East. You can't do it with

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Speaker 1: flashy wide receivers who get hurt all the time. You

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Speaker 1: gotta play I mean this play right there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this kid, this is a Northeast football player,

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Speaker 1: and so like people say, I can't believe he was

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Speaker 1: the eighth quarter of the eighth running back drafted. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you just don't know. George Kittle Hall of Famer, fifth round.

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Speaker 1: I watched Kittle at Iowa. I never saw that.

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Speaker 6: Don't you think sometimes the whole who is the comp

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Speaker 6: Don't you think that can hurt players because then you're

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Speaker 6: forced to put him in a box. This is what

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Speaker 6: he is or what he looks like, or what he

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Speaker 6: can be. And I just I remember watching Scataboo in

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Speaker 6: the playoff. He was one of the best players on

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Speaker 6: the sty He rolled over text. Yeah, they couldn't stop him,

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Speaker 6: and you at that point, I don't need to come.

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Speaker 6: Kim's gotta Boo's my guy. That looks like a second

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Speaker 6: round pick to me. At worst, I thought he was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm not disagreeing with that, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: every there's a lot of smart gms, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's not only that he's working, but his value with

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Speaker 1: the Giants again Arizona State football last year, if I'd

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Speaker 1: have said, what is it, You've been like, I like

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, but it's a running back driven team. Right

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Speaker 1: now with the Giants, what do you say, I like

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, but it's a running back driven team. He's

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Speaker 1: one of those rare players. Adrian Peterson had some of this.

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry took him a while. First two years. Dereck

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Speaker 1: Henry was like a borderline bust in the NFL. He's

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Speaker 1: a backup, so I think, like DeMarco Murray, it takes

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Speaker 1: some guy's time. Scataboo's not one of those guys. Scatabuu

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Speaker 1: walks in the door. His energy and his style and

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Speaker 1: his toughness and his athletic ability like popped in camp.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was like, whoa. It'll give the Giants credit. You know,

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Speaker 1: they wanted to get Wilson some starts. This team didn't

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback, they needed an identity. And it's like

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Speaker 1: Scataboo is that he did it to Arizona State and

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Speaker 1: he did it in the NFL. Like, if he's on

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Speaker 1: your team, he's going to drive the bus. I got

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Speaker 1: to ask about Dart because he's playing well. I got

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Speaker 1: to be I didn't see this coming from him because

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Speaker 1: I put him in a box. I said Alway's a

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin quarterback. He's Matt Carrall. Remember the Matt Corral

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Speaker 1: put up huge numbers, came to the NFL, hasn't really

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Speaker 1: done anything. I didn't see this from Dart.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Colin, if you put Dart's highlight reel this

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Speaker 6: season and cam Ward, I mean, it's early.

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Speaker 1: But Jackson Dart looks better so far. Would you agree? Well?

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Speaker 1: And I think all I think the Giants have more

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Speaker 1: good players. I have been on this. The guy little

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Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey off a practice squad, which is the worst

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Speaker 1: nickname ever because there's nothing little about it. I think

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Speaker 1: six for you. But I think one of the things

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Speaker 1: I've said over and over about the Giants, and I

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Speaker 1: know they're not that interesting a team, but I've been

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Speaker 1: saying for years left tackle, offensive coach, elite defensive line,

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Speaker 1: they check a lot of boxes. They need to get

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Speaker 1: the offensive line upgraded, and they need another corner. But

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Speaker 1: the Giants have had players, and they've actually you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like when you watch the Giants, they've had moments

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. They just can't get

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Speaker 1: the quarterback right. So and once you get the quarterback right,

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Speaker 1: the game gets much easier for a GM. Everything kind

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Speaker 1: of falls into place.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Eastern not a EM Pacific.

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Speaker 6: Tonight on SOOX, Tarik Skooble takes the mound to lead

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Speaker 6: Riley Green and the Tigers against Cal Raley and the

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Speaker 6: Mariners in a winner take all Game five of the Alds.

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Speaker 6: Coverage begins at seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Okay, for the record, very interesting college football weekend out west.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a lot of East coast this morning out

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Speaker 1: West Michigan at USC, Indiana at Oregon. Really interesting games.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a lot about college football. The

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Speaker 1: playoff going forward very interesting. I like USC close and

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Speaker 1: Oregon will win. Indiana's got a really good quarterback, a

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Speaker 1: clever offense. They look deeper and better than last year

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Speaker 1: eye test, so I think the game is pretty close.

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Speaker 1: So we all know that Shoheo Tani is not only

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Speaker 1: our Babe Ruth, He's much better than Babe Ruth. Babe

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Speaker 1: Ruth wasn't pitching and hitting simultaneously at this level. Babe

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Speaker 1: Ruth didn't run like this, But as great as o

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Speaker 1: Tawny has been in the regular season as a Dodger.

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Speaker 1: He has struggled in the playoffs last year. In this year,

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Speaker 1: he's hitting two zho five this year he's four for

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Speaker 1: twenty seven with a ton of strikeouts. And so my

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Speaker 1: take is it's the Peyton Manning syndrome. He's too great

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Speaker 1: not to eventually be great, but he's putting a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on himself. Rory mcelroyd didn't win the Masters,

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Speaker 1: you know, until his seventeenth try. When a decade without

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Speaker 1: winning a major, Rory McElroy's too good not to eventually

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Speaker 1: break through. It is really really hard to hit in

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Speaker 1: the postseason. I mean Trede Turner, former Dodger, by the way,

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Speaker 1: won the National League Batting Crown. Trey Turner struggled in

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Speaker 1: this series. Clayton Kershaw best curve ball of this generation

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Speaker 1: is our Sandy Kofax. He's scuffed it in the postseason

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Speaker 1: in his prime scuffed it a little bit. So I

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Speaker 1: just think what happens is and you know a lot

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Speaker 1: of the old athletes didn't grow up with TikTok and

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Speaker 1: Instagram and this. You know, back in the seventies, you

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Speaker 1: didn't have relentless talk radio. It was newspapers, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Our media now is loud and its

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Speaker 1: multi platform, and these players make a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: and fans tend to be more outspoken and verbal and

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Speaker 1: caustic and obnoxious, and there's just a lot to deal with.

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Speaker 1: I think Otani is putting too much pressure on himself.

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Speaker 1: Here was Dave Roberts talking about what he's going through.

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Speaker 5: His decision making hasn't been good. You know, you can see,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's balls in off and he's really not

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Speaker 5: given himself a chance to, you know, hit a mistake.

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Speaker 5: I just think that he's in between a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But the swing decisions are just not where they need

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Speaker 5: to be right now.

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Speaker 1: Needless to say, the Dodgers got through it despite that

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Speaker 1: because they have the ability to win several ways. So

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Speaker 1: through the years, this is where J McK and I

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Speaker 1: have often disagreed. I there are certain people in the

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Speaker 1: NFL I will defend even when they're not winning. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski has lost a lot of games, but I always

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Speaker 1: defend him. Zach Taylor in Cincinnati, there's a lot of l's.

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Speaker 1: I always defend him. Shane Steiken last year it was bad.

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Speaker 1: I said, he knows what he's doing. So I tend

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Speaker 1: to be on the defend Brian Dable side, even though

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable hasn't won a lot of games. Last night,

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Speaker 1: there was a moment where he's freaking out going over

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Speaker 1: to the tent. He didn't want Russell Wilson out there.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to make sure his guy could play. And

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Speaker 1: I totally get it because he's twenty and thirty six

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Speaker 1: as a head coach and it's very likely he will

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Speaker 1: not get another head coaching job. He may. I would

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Speaker 1: certainly interviewed him. I thought the Chargers should have hired him,

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Speaker 1: not Brandon Staley, but you could see Brian Daboll his concern.

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Speaker 1: He wanted him out there, so and my takeaway is

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Speaker 1: the reason I side with offensive coaches because we're in

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Speaker 1: an offensive league. And if the Giants had a defensive

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Speaker 1: coach that was twenty and thirty six with Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 1: I'd be done. But bad quarterback play can make really

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Speaker 1: smart offensive coaches look bewildered and lost. And so I

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Speaker 1: am going to defend Brian Dabole like I've defended Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski and last year Shane Steiken and Zach Taylor. Is

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Speaker 1: that it's an offensive league. I mean, if you go

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Speaker 1: back to Shane steikin last year, people around Indianapolis, some

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Speaker 1: national people, some local people, very critical of the culture.

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Speaker 1: It's a bad team. You got a good roster, you

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Speaker 1: got a good coach. Anthony Richardson was Tebow accurate. You

674
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Speaker 1: can't win in this league. So I think da Bol

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Speaker 1: is really good. I don't know if he's Kevin Stefanski good,

676
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Speaker 1: but I think he's good. I'm gonna defend him. And

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Speaker 1: here was Brian Dabele about going to the doctor for

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Speaker 1: an update.

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Speaker 3: If you ever been on an NFL sideline, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of emotions, and I certainly am an emotional guy.

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Speaker 3: I apologized directly to our team physician. I just wanted

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Speaker 3: disass out there if he was okay, but I wanted

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Speaker 3: to process like we were getting ready to go for it,

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Speaker 3: potential for down. I would have burned a time out

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Speaker 3: if you could have came out there. So I was asking,

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Speaker 3: how long is it gonna take? And you want your

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Speaker 3: guy out there, not at risk of anything else.

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Speaker 5: But you know, he came out.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be good. I'm like is he

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Speaker 3: gonna be good or I'm gonna call time out on

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Speaker 3: fourth down.

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Speaker 6: And go for this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I'm gonna defend the coach on this. One

694
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Speaker 1: of the things the media does that drives me crazy.

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Speaker 1: We're all on our couch and yet in the middle

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Speaker 1: of a game, we're eating these coaches alive because you

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Speaker 1: know they don't you know the clock management is. It's

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Speaker 1: really easy to say from your couch. These games are fluid,

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Speaker 1: and they're fast, and they're live. There's a lot of pressure,

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Speaker 1: and so I've seen Peyton Manning blow up at Jeff's

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Tom Brady scream at Josh McDaniel's. I always

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Speaker 1: defend him. I will always defend the pro athletes. I

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Speaker 1: went to a Miami Heat game years ago and it

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Speaker 1: was Lebron and Wade and Bosh. I was down in

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Speaker 1: Miami betterly totally committed to the show. But I was

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Speaker 1: down in Miami and Ann and I were down there

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Speaker 1: watching the game. I don't WATCHMI and Lebron. James in

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Speaker 1: a timeout is just Barkin at Mario Chalmers, and he's

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Speaker 1: just Barkin at his team, and it's like, well, don't

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Speaker 1: we all want our athletes to care and don't. We

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Speaker 1: want the best players to have leadership qualities. Sometimes volume works,

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to defend these coaches and these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and these players to get highly emotional like I. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to hold your hand. When

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Speaker 1: des Bryant was in Dallas and it was like every

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Speaker 1: time they didn't look at it. I'm not babysitting you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you got to be a grown up. That's different, but

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Speaker 1: dable on the sidelines, Hey what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: Without saying it, he said it. I don't want the

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Speaker 1: I don't want the other quarterback. I want Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: out there. We got a rhythm, let's go. Jobs are

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Speaker 1: on the line, there are seven figure jobs. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: support emotion as long as it's not terribly disruptive emotion.

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Speaker 1: You and I talked about it the other day with

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Speaker 1: the Arizona coach. I wouldn't find him one hundred grand

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Speaker 1: I didn't love it, but I understand like this, these

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Speaker 1: games are live, and there's cameras everywhere, and we see

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Speaker 1: stuff now we didn't used to see.

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Speaker 6: Well because the cameras are everywhere, the NFL is now,

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Speaker 6: according to some NFL reporters they're looking into the concussion

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Speaker 6: protocol situation last night because Davie made a scene on

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Speaker 6: the sideline. You know, he's mfing the team doctor, get

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Speaker 6: my guy back out there.

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Speaker 1: Like he was very fired up.

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Speaker 6: But he needs, like you said, he's coaching for his job.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he broke any rules. I think Dart

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Speaker 6: was fine. His head didn't bang off the turf or anything.

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Speaker 2: He did.

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Speaker 1: He took some shots though last night. No, no, he

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Speaker 1: has got to learn to slide. The baseball guys, Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray's a great slide, so Wilson was a great slide.

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Speaker 1: A great slider. The non baseball guys, they think they're fullbacks.

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Speaker 1: He's diving with his headphone.

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Speaker 8: I know, bro.

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Speaker 1: Come on blaz and five of a winning week next