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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister. Thank you. Your speech I thought was

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Speaker 1: very clear. Basically Ukraine has to win the war in

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Speaker 1: Russia losers. But you said something I want to pick

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Speaker 1: up on and elaborate. You talk about NATO assurances for Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean specifically and when do you do them?

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Speaker 1: Do you do them while the we're still ongoing? Don't

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Speaker 1: you fear that Russia will say ultimately we're raad. We

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Speaker 1: don't fight Ukraine, we fight NATO. Well, very nice to

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Speaker 1: see you. I think, first of all, it's it's clear

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Speaker 1: that the security guarantees, the architecture that was in place

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Speaker 1: before this war has failed Ukraine. Right, that's just a

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Speaker 1: statement of fact. Ukraine had received assurances when it gave

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Speaker 1: weapons up. Russias continually violated, whether it's human rights treatise

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Speaker 1: or indeed arms controlled treaties. So what happened before has

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Speaker 1: not worked. So we should be clear about that. And

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Speaker 1: now our job is to look forward and say what's

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Speaker 1: the right thing going forward? Now, as I mentioned against

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Speaker 1: Altenberger said NATO, you know, well, Ukraine will be a

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Speaker 1: member of NATO. But between now and then, what I

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Speaker 1: think we need to work on are providing Ukraine with

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Speaker 1: the means to win the war right now, and that

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Speaker 1: means very specifically artillery, long range weapons, armored vehicles, air defense.

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Speaker 1: That's the most critical thing. What we can also do

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Speaker 1: is make sure that we're training Ukraine on NATO standard equipment.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're doing when it comes to aircraft with

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Speaker 1: their pilots. But I think what we do need to

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Speaker 1: do is think about the future of how we protect

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Speaker 1: Ukraine's security and we need to have that conversation with

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Speaker 1: our allies and talk about the longer term provision of

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Speaker 1: supporting Ukraine. And that's the conversation that I think we

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Speaker 1: should start having, because the Villanias Summit is a good

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Speaker 1: place to conclude that. So this year, so the insurances

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Speaker 1: would come this year. I wonder there has been a

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Speaker 1: lot of debate. You talked about the fighter jets. There

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Speaker 1: has been a lot of debate here about the ammunition,

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Speaker 1: the risk that they may not have enough ammunition, but

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Speaker 1: also the long range Misshouse is concerned that perhaps one

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Speaker 1: of the targets would be Cremia. Under your watch as

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Speaker 1: Uki Prime Minister, would you approve of long range missiles

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Speaker 1: that could hit Cremia? I think I think the most

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Speaker 1: important thing here to recognize is actually starts with NATO.

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Speaker 1: NATO is a defensive alliance, right, that's the first thing

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Speaker 1: to recall. What is Ukraine doing. Ukraine is trying to

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Speaker 1: defend itself, right, it is suffering unprovoked aggression. It's territorial integrity,

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Speaker 1: It's sovereignty has been violated, It's people are being killed,

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Speaker 1: and it has every right to defend itself. And that's

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Speaker 1: what we should be doing. And that's the support that

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Speaker 1: we collectively in this room are are providing. And critically,

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Speaker 1: there are things that Ukraine needs to gain that decisive

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Speaker 1: advantage on the battlefield. That's why the provision of heavy

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Speaker 1: tanks was so important. It's why air defense is absolutely critical.

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Speaker 1: You're right to mention artillery and longer range weapons also help. Now,

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Speaker 1: those are all the things that will allow Ukraine to

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Speaker 1: defend itself and repel Russian aggression and indeed, yes, to

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Speaker 1: have a counter offensive that moves Russia outside of its

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Speaker 1: own country. I think that's entirely reasonable, and we should

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Speaker 1: be fully behind Ukraine in that ambition and want that

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Speaker 1: ambition to succeed. And for them, the entire country means crime.

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Speaker 1: As you know very well, uh. In your speech there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of provider in the sense of Ukraine

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Speaker 1: has to win the war in Russia has to be

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Speaker 1: proven wrong. Vladimir Putin has to lose this war is

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Speaker 1: some would say, and you make it clear you still

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Speaker 1: believe the UK is a big geopolitical agent. Selinski obviously

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Speaker 1: some here would believe to really be the strong geopolitical agent.

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Speaker 1: You need to solve the pending issues that you have

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Speaker 1: with the EU. I know you probably know this question

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Speaker 1: a deal over the Northern Irish Protocol that could come Monday. Potentially,

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Speaker 1: do you have a deal? Does it come Monday? And

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Speaker 1: I wonder beyond that it doesn't reflect your wish that

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Speaker 1: you want to have a normal working relationship with your

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the issue of the Northern are

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Speaker 1: And Protocol, there are real issues that need resolving. The

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Speaker 1: real challenges for families, for people, for businesses on the ground,

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Speaker 1: very practical difficulties and they need to be resolved. But

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Speaker 1: also there's an issue of the democratic deficit that sits

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Speaker 1: at the heart of the protocol as it's currently constructed. Now,

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Speaker 1: those are the things that we need to resolve and

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Speaker 1: I'm working very hard together with my ministerial colleagues, foreign

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Speaker 1: we are working very closely together. We're engaging in those

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Speaker 1: and we have been for a while. But what I'd

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Speaker 1: challenges to work through. We have not resolved all these issues. No,

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Speaker 1: there is no There isn't a deal that has been

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Speaker 1: be done. It's the issues that I outlined, and James

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Speaker 1: We're working through those, We're working through them hard and

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Speaker 1: we will work through them intensely with the EU. But

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Speaker 1: we are by no means done. There is no deal

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Speaker 1: what we all said about doing so I guess you

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Speaker 1: basically say on Monday that's that's not a deadline in

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Speaker 1: any way in your view. But I wonder on a

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Speaker 1: bigger picture, is there a wish to now have a

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Speaker 1: normal working relationship with your European allies. This is a

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Speaker 1: word that's happening in continental Europe. Yeah, look, of course

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Speaker 1: there is. And you know, the UK may have left

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Speaker 1: the European Union, it didn't leave Europe. We are We

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Speaker 1: to have a positive, constructive relationship with our European partners, neighbors,

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Speaker 1: in the response to Ukraine, but very specifically actually on sanctions,

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Speaker 1: where there has been exceptionally good close working in coordination

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Speaker 1: in a coordinated fashion. I think we've demonstrated that we

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Speaker 1: couple of other areas is where we're having good conversations

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Speaker 1: as a result of positive the positive dialogue. One is

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Speaker 1: a legal migration. Actually the Calais group of countries that

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Speaker 1: end of last year. That that's a group of countries

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Speaker 1: And then lastly, on energy security, I think all of

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Speaker 1: where we're getting our energy from and ultimately, you know,

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Speaker 1: How can we not work together on that? And those

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Speaker 1: And perhaps when you're toning, you did come with a

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Speaker 1: very big delegation, which has not been the case of times.

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Speaker 1: I am I'm told that James will correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I'm told that this is the biggest

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Speaker 1: delegation that we've had and and it reflects a new

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Speaker 1: changing time, absolutely, And I think there's this idea that

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Speaker 1: was put to me earlier by someone that somehow, just

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Speaker 1: as the EU or the UK turning in on itself.

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Speaker 1: Nothing could be further from the truth, right like that,

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Speaker 1: the UK has always been an outward looking country and

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Speaker 1: we are committed to continuing and doubling down on that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't funny enough. I think last it was

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Speaker 1: relatively recently one of our brand new aircraft carriers, which

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Speaker 1: participated in joint missions with almost every navy along the

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Speaker 1: way from Europe, the Middle East to Asia, and it

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Speaker 1: was incredible sign I think of the UK's desire to

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Speaker 1: be an outward looking nation. How could anyone say with

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Speaker 1: something like that going on, that we was on how retreating, No,

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Speaker 1: of course not. That's our aircraft carrier out in the

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Speaker 1: Indo Pacific in partnership with other countries in the region,

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Speaker 1: talking about regional security with them. You know, we're currently

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Speaker 1: tangible demonstrations of our desire to be engaged of course

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Speaker 1: in Europe, but also around the world, whether it comes

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Speaker 1: to trade, security, energy policy, you name it. Well, Prime Minister,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for time here at the MEDIX.

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Speaker 1: Security come first, well, thank you very much,