WEBVTT - Encore: Analysis, Parapraxis, Elvis

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin to introduce this episode. I just want to relate

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<v Speaker 1>how random my journey to it was. I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>a book I can't even remember what it was, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a footnote I always read the footnotes. The author

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<v Speaker 1>said the psychologist whose work she was referring to had

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<v Speaker 1>done a very strange paper once about Elvis, at which

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<v Speaker 1>point I stopped reading the book and looked up the

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<v Speaker 1>very strange paper about Elvis. It was by Alan Elms.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing, So immediately I go to the next question.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Alan Elms still alive? Yes, living in Davis, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Next step, I gotta go see him. So I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>fly to San Francisco rent a car, but the rental

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<v Speaker 1>agency is out of all cars except for a bright

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<v Speaker 1>canary yellow Chevy Corvette, which I take happily. But then

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<v Speaker 1>halfway to Davis, driving at speeds that are very, very

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<v Speaker 1>far from legal, I start thinking, what's this guy going

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<v Speaker 1>to think of me if I show up in a

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<v Speaker 1>bright canary yellow Corvette. He's a brilliant psychologist. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want him pre judging me, So I park it around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner, walk to his house and spend a lovely

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon with him. Sadly he was feeling poorly at the

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<v Speaker 1>time and didn't speak well enough for me to use

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<v Speaker 1>the tape of his interview. But my spontaneous journey set

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<v Speaker 1>the correct tone, I think for this whole episode, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that it was intended to be a caper, a

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<v Speaker 1>grand caper in which many crazy, unexpected things happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>as it will discover. So it was, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that Alan Elms and I talked the most

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<v Speaker 1>about was not actually his Alva's paper. It was another

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<v Speaker 1>even more genius thing he once wrote about the Wizard

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<v Speaker 1>of Oz, which I promise you that I will get

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<v Speaker 1>to one day. Here a visionist history, Join me for

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<v Speaker 1>a walk down revisionist history memory Lane. The New York

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<v Speaker 1>Psychoanalytics Society and Institute is in a very formal European

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<v Speaker 1>style building on a quiet side street on the upper

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<v Speaker 1>east side of Manhattan. Oak tables, high ceilings. In the library,

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<v Speaker 1>long ribbons of leather bound volumes, and five different busts

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<v Speaker 1>of Sigmund Freud all in a row. I went there

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<v Speaker 1>to meet with the Society's president, Michelle Press, a psychoanalyst

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<v Speaker 1>herself with that lovely quality of patience and openness. The

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<v Speaker 1>best therapists always have. I wanted to talk with her

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<v Speaker 1>about a subject that I've always found deeply interesting. What

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<v Speaker 1>Freud called parapraxis, but not just anyone's parapraxis, the King's parapraxis.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Malcolm Gladwell. You're listening to Revisionist History,

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood. After the first

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<v Speaker 1>two episodes on Memory earlier this season, I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>do a third. It involves an odyssey. This odyssey took

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<v Speaker 1>me from the pages of the Handbook of Psychobiography to

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<v Speaker 1>a shrine in Tennessee, to the legendary Battery Studios in

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<v Speaker 1>Times Square, and to the hushed offices of the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Psychoanalytics Society, where I sat with Michelle Press in

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<v Speaker 1>search of an answer to a simple question. What if

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<v Speaker 1>a singer couldn't remember the words to a song, a

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<v Speaker 1>song he had sung a thousand times, particular parts of the song,

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<v Speaker 1>the same part of the song, over and over. What

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<v Speaker 1>would that tell us about the singer?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a term in German faulty acts or faulty functions.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be slips of the tongue. It could be misreadings, mishearings,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's Freud's invention.

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Press is talking about parapraxis from the Greek para

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<v Speaker 1>meaning abnormal, beyond praxis meaning act, abnormal speech acts, or

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<v Speaker 1>as they are more colloquially known, Freudian slips. Does Freud

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<v Speaker 1>mean that there are no accidental slips or that if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the range of accidental slips you can

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<v Speaker 1>find meaning in some.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you read him, he doesn't want to sound

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of definitive. He'll say, yes, maybe one might

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<v Speaker 2>prove that there are some that are truly accidental, or

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<v Speaker 2>truly a result of fatigue or of maybe some medical illness.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said, if you do the work, one will

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<v Speaker 2>find the reasons for the slip, that they're not accidental,

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<v Speaker 2>that they have. He called it a sense, and that

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<v Speaker 2>that's sense has to do with unconscious forces or unconscious

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<v Speaker 2>ideas that are trying to find expression but are because

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<v Speaker 2>they're unacceptable. They emerge in these ways when one might

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<v Speaker 2>be unguarded.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, is that concept of unacceptability central to the notion

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<v Speaker 1>of parapraxis?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>What was a less.

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<v Speaker 4>Over here sun metal strain.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen fifty six early in his career, Elvis Presley

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<v Speaker 1>recorded a song called Old Shep. It's a sentimental song

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<v Speaker 1>about a boy and his dog, Shep, written in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties by Red Foley. The dog gets old and sick.

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<v Speaker 1>The vet says there's no hope. The boy aims his

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<v Speaker 1>rifle at Shep to put him out of his misery,

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<v Speaker 1>but he can't pull the trigger. He lies down next

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<v Speaker 1>to Shep cradles him in his arms as the dog

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<v Speaker 1>dies and the song ends.

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<v Speaker 5>Old Shelbie has gone weather, good dog, It's gold.

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<v Speaker 6>And whoever. But if dolls have a heaven.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one way I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Old shepherds.

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<v Speaker 7>Wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Shep is not one of Elvis's more famous songs,

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<v Speaker 1>but in an essay published in two thousand and five

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<v Speaker 1>on Elvis, the psychologists Alan Elms and Bruce Heller having

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<v Speaker 1>aside about a small but significant discrepancy between the original

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<v Speaker 1>version of Old Shep and Elvis's cover. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back to Heller and Elms in a while because

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<v Speaker 1>they really do the most thorough analysis of Elvis's lyrical parapraxis.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's start with Old Shep. Listen to Hank Snow

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<v Speaker 1>performing the lyrics as they were originally written. The boy

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<v Speaker 1>has just put away his gun, realizing he can't shoot Shep.

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<v Speaker 8>So I threw down a let old gun and ran

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<v Speaker 8>right up to his signe ladies, faithful, old head, right online,

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<v Speaker 8>knee and friends. I stroked the best pound little man

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<v Speaker 8>ever found. I even cried so I scarcely could see.

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<v Speaker 1>Now listen to Elvis sing his.

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<v Speaker 4>Version, I had strong the best friend, not a man.

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<v Speaker 6>I cry.

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<v Speaker 7>Sauscuriously good see Hanks no sings I stroked the best

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<v Speaker 7>pal a man ever found, meaning that the boy considers

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<v Speaker 7>an act of violence against his best pal, then decides

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<v Speaker 7>against it and takes instead the path of nurture and sympathy.

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<v Speaker 1>He recovers his humanity. But Elvis sings, I had struck

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<v Speaker 1>the best friend a man ever had, which turns the

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<v Speaker 1>meaning of the song completely upside down. The boy does

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<v Speaker 1>not recover his humanity. He now holds himself responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>an act of violence against Shep, an act of violence

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<v Speaker 1>that in fact he did not commit. Stroke becomes struck,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, the song about moral redemption

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<v Speaker 1>turns into a song about morbid remorse. Now I suppose

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<v Speaker 1>you can say stroke struck whatever those two words sound

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<v Speaker 1>the same. It's just a cover, but it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>a cover. Alvis was obsessed with Old Shep. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>first song he ever learned on the guitar. He played

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<v Speaker 1>it incessantly as a child. At age ten, he played

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<v Speaker 1>it at the Mississippi Alabama Fair, his first public performance.

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<v Speaker 1>He played it at his high school talent show and won.

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<v Speaker 1>He played it on dates with girls. He played it

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<v Speaker 1>well into his career. And why does the song resonate

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<v Speaker 1>so much with him? It's a song about love, betrayal,

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<v Speaker 1>and loss, themes that are at the center of Elvis's life.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a twinless twin. Someone who's twin died in utero,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's obsessed by that fact. He brings it up

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<v Speaker 1>again and again. The loss of someone who should have

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<v Speaker 1>been his closest friend. Alvis's mother, Gladys, is to say

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<v Speaker 1>the least unusual. She's controlling, intense, he calls her baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys died when Alvis was just twenty three. When he

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<v Speaker 1>first saw her casket, he threw himself on top of

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<v Speaker 1>her body, then stepped back and talked about how beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>she was while pointing to her dead feet. He called

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<v Speaker 1>them her little suities. He did this again and again.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the funeral service, he lay on

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<v Speaker 1>top of her casket, saying, I want to go with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to stay here. I can't be without you.

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<v Speaker 1>And we haven't even gotten to Priscilla, Alvis's wife. He

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<v Speaker 1>spotted her when she was fourteen and eventually convinced her

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<v Speaker 1>to move in with him in Memphis.

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<v Speaker 9>Once Alvis took you to a move Yes he did.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Priscilla being interviewed by Barbara Walters in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five.

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<v Speaker 9>Why why that fascination?

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know what the fascination was. This is not

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<v Speaker 9>the first time that he had done this. I don't

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<v Speaker 9>know if it was for the shock value, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>to see how people would react, or just for his

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<v Speaker 9>own thrill of it. You wrote, there were times when

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<v Speaker 9>you and Elvis spent days in the bedroom, freezing bedroom.

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<v Speaker 9>He liked it be cold, the windows with blackout drapes

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<v Speaker 9>or no sun light enter it. Day after day. It

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<v Speaker 9>went in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, we stayed like that.

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<v Speaker 9>We had our food.

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<v Speaker 12>Delivered by the door and.

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<v Speaker 5>It was cold.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, he did like a cold, and it was dark,

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<v Speaker 9>and it could get real lonely. And that's how he

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<v Speaker 9>liked it at times, like a cocoon, almost like a womb.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you think. Priscilla and Barbara Walters are on

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<v Speaker 1>a white couch surrounded by pink flowers. Scilla is in

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<v Speaker 1>a strapless sun dress. She looks amazing. Barbara Walters turns

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<v Speaker 1>to her and says, Alvis controlled your looks, your clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>your hair, your makeup. He controlled you totally. Priscilla says, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he did.

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<v Speaker 9>Then six years you lived there before he decided to

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<v Speaker 9>marry you. In those six years of sleeping with him

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<v Speaker 9>every night, he never had intercourse with you. You wrote

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<v Speaker 9>in your book that there were times when you begged

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<v Speaker 9>him six years so why well again, you know, I

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<v Speaker 9>can only go back to what his concept was as

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<v Speaker 9>what he wanted in a woman, and somewhere he along

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<v Speaker 9>in his past he said that he wanted a virgin.

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<v Speaker 1>Alvis is complicated, and what does Freud's theory of parapraxis say?

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<v Speaker 1>The complicated feelings inappropriate, maybe unacceptable feelings are normally suppressed,

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<v Speaker 1>but every now and again, some little bit of that

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<v Speaker 1>buried emotion slips out and if you're paying attention and

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<v Speaker 1>listening closely, that little slip can tell you something. Struck

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<v Speaker 1>for stroke. But old chap is just the beginning. For Elvis,

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<v Speaker 1>the real pairapraxis occurs in are You Lonesome Tonight? A

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<v Speaker 1>song originally written in the nineteen twenties and which Elvis

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<v Speaker 1>took to the top of the charts just after he

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the Army.

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<v Speaker 13>Are You Longed.

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<v Speaker 1>Wish A Day? Zero six?

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<v Speaker 6>Take two.

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis at the RCA Studios on Music Row in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>April fourth, nineteen sixty The recordings from the original session

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<v Speaker 1>now held in the Sony Music Archive.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, this is there's numerous takes here, so they fall apart,

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<v Speaker 14>they make a mistake, and what have you?

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<v Speaker 1>John Jackson and Vic Annissini from Sony Me all listening

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<v Speaker 1>together at the legendary Battery Studios in Manhattan, where everyone

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<v Speaker 1>from John Lennon to Bruce Springsteen recorded Holy Ground. I

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<v Speaker 1>started my quest at the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 7>It is your hot till.

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<v Speaker 5>Share, I harm.

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<v Speaker 4>Toll me d.

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<v Speaker 5>Are You Lonesome?

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<v Speaker 1>To Amaziah? Is he uh? When he records that? Are

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<v Speaker 1>the Jordanaires singing along with him? Or they're laying that

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<v Speaker 1>tracked down spar no livething a. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>He always preferred to have everyone in one room and

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<v Speaker 15>record live.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, even in one room, not in booths or no no,

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<v Speaker 6>no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>He hated booths. Recording the song was not Elvis's idea.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a favorite of the wife of his manager,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Parker. In the studio, Elvis asked the lights be

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<v Speaker 1>turned off so the room was in darkness. He did

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<v Speaker 1>five takes. He didn't like any of them.

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<v Speaker 14>It was four in the morning when he recorded it,

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<v Speaker 14>so he made everyone get out of the studio go.

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<v Speaker 1>Away, and then he just you know, did it.

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<v Speaker 14>And then they this is the second take, which they

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<v Speaker 14>told him how the background singers, you know, pea popped

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<v Speaker 14>because he said, just stop the tape, you know, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 14>They said, just do it once more because you know,

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<v Speaker 14>we hit a pea pop on there. So the third

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<v Speaker 14>take ends up being the master.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I see.

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<v Speaker 14>Then held the label held it back for seven eight

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<v Speaker 14>months because he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Realize what they had on their hands.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, it was seven months.

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<v Speaker 16>I think after he recreated they finally released it as

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<v Speaker 16>a single and didn't go out that he had done

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<v Speaker 16>eight songs for Elvis's back, and this was just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 16>just try this.

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<v Speaker 1>One, recorded in the wee hours of the morning in

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<v Speaker 1>darkness as a favor to someone else, a song neither

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis nor his label particularly liked. It's almost like the

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<v Speaker 1>song had a curse on it right from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>and from then on Elvis could never quite get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this with Michelle Press at the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Psychoanalytics Society. Elvis wasn't typically someone who forgot the

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<v Speaker 1>words to the songs he sang. There's all these examples

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<v Speaker 1>out of his life of him being able to recite,

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<v Speaker 1>to sing from memory massive amounts of stuff. I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested about that. There's a little slip worried about

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm worried about that. I'm interested in that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm wondering what the what would you make of that?

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<v Speaker 1>As a psychoanalyst. I try to go on, but of

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<v Speaker 1>course I'm talking to a hardcore Freudian. I meant to

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<v Speaker 1>say I was interested, but what came out was worried.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm still caught on your slip, obviously thinking

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<v Speaker 2>what do you make of it? So one thought was

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<v Speaker 2>whether the slip might be a key to something that

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<v Speaker 2>you're figuring out and puzzling with him, because you're right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you're immersed in him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I am. I've been singing this song under my

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<v Speaker 1>breath for months. I can't understand why I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>an Elvis fan. I don't own a single song of his,

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<v Speaker 1>or am I am? I drawn to this story because

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<v Speaker 1>isn't this story that I'm talking to you the great

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety of anyone in a creative field, that moment when

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<v Speaker 1>you lose control, right where the the presentation to the

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<v Speaker 1>audience is unmasked. I want to I want to show you.

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<v Speaker 1>I take up my laptop, pull up YouTube. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>mountain of Elvis on YouTube, one of the last performances

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<v Speaker 1>of his life. It's bananas. I mean, he just it's

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<v Speaker 1>he's singing a song he's singing thousands of times, and.

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<v Speaker 10>He just.

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<v Speaker 1>Completely loses control of it. I can skip it. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if.

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<v Speaker 13>Two longs of my life.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, someone said the worlds of stags in each

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<v Speaker 4>of us play apart they had playing in plus tags,

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<v Speaker 4>iriginal select every I never missed you, and it came

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<v Speaker 4>back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>For got the word seem to change. When I first

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<v Speaker 1>saw it it as someone in a I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not Elvis, but I'm someone in a creative field. It

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<v Speaker 1>terrified me. It's like up on stage doing what he's

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<v Speaker 1>paid to do, and he he just.

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<v Speaker 3>Really won during your life, You're gonna go on living

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<v Speaker 3>without you.

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<v Speaker 6>Now the stage is bare and I'm sending there without

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<v Speaker 6>a new hair.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 16>If you'll come.

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<v Speaker 9>Back to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Every live performance he's ever given of this that we

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<v Speaker 1>have on tape, he mangles the bridge. He can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it right. It's which he's returning to the song again

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<v Speaker 1>and again and again and again and again and doing

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<v Speaker 1>the same in this particular always a bride so singing party.

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<v Speaker 2>Over how many years did this go on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yours Okay?

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<v Speaker 14>In nineteen eighty to this life and version was rare

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<v Speaker 14>in the UK, and each one the twenty five and

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<v Speaker 14>the British Singles chart.

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<v Speaker 1>At Battery Studios. I made the Sony guys play every

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<v Speaker 1>version they had. They even have names, Laughing Elvis, Crazy Elvis,

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<v Speaker 1>each one stranger than the one before.

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<v Speaker 6>The World's a stagies in East must play a part.

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<v Speaker 1>There's sweat and tears streaming down his face, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had no call for Dodger.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes on like this, on and on.

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<v Speaker 4>Baby shut.

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<v Speaker 7>Again.

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<v Speaker 10>Tell me? Are you.

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<v Speaker 17>That's it?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 13>Don't do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't never hurry and we'll I'll do you O s.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever played a song before?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 12>I never put it before.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny. I played a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 6>Check I put a bunch of his stuff.

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<v Speaker 12>You might flip in the standby switched.

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<v Speaker 7>On the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with Jack White at his studio in Nashville Third

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<v Speaker 1>Man Records. Jack White, formerly of the White Stripes, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the great rock and rollers of his generation and

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<v Speaker 1>a huge Elvis fan. He's a shrine to Elvis in

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<v Speaker 1>his hallway, actual shrine. All that's missing is flowers. We

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<v Speaker 1>met in his private office, lots of black and yellow

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<v Speaker 1>and leather and taxidermy. He sat on the couch with

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<v Speaker 1>a guitar. Do you play? Do you play Elvis songs?

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<v Speaker 1>A concert?

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<v Speaker 13>Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 10>I do love like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to love me, love me and just.

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<v Speaker 6>Dream and just save.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, don't stop, I'm enjoying it. Anything

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<v Speaker 1>any other ones you do?

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<v Speaker 12>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway? Why do you why that one? What's it about that? Song.

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<v Speaker 15>I had heard that early from a band called the

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<v Speaker 15>Flat to a Jets that I really liked, and I

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<v Speaker 15>didn't know it was Elvis. And then when i'd heard

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<v Speaker 15>the Elvis version, I had connected the two, like, oh no, really,

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<v Speaker 15>and I started doing it when I put in coffee houses.

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<v Speaker 15>I started playing that when I was like sixteen, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>it goes back, which is funny.

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<v Speaker 6>I eventually heard a story of Robert Plant.

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<v Speaker 15>Telling Elvis he loved that song when led Zeppyn met Elvis,

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<v Speaker 15>and then when they walked out out of the hallway

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<v Speaker 15>that Elvis poked his head out in the hallway and

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<v Speaker 15>sang that song to Robert Plan. They sang it back

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<v Speaker 15>to each other, and you were crying and must have

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<v Speaker 15>been an amazing moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack White owns the original acetate pressing of Elvis's first

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<v Speaker 1>recording from nineteen fifty three My Happiness. After we talked,

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<v Speaker 1>White took me into his vault to show it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's priceless. He asked me if I weren't to hold it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was too terrified to say yes. Jack White seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like the right person to see to try and understand

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis's problem. You are you lonesome? Tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, let me see, we're gonna take a crack.

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<v Speaker 6>It might might have to give a kap worls.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your lone song? Tonight?

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<v Speaker 9>Do you miss me.

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<v Speaker 6>Tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sorry? We drifted.

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<v Speaker 7>A paw?

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<v Speaker 1>Does your memoir strain through a bride song?

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<v Speaker 12>Day?

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<v Speaker 1>When I kissed you and called you sweet?

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<v Speaker 6>Do the chair in your partner seamanity?

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<v Speaker 9>And then.

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<v Speaker 18>Do you gaze as the door snell and pitcher me?

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<v Speaker 18>Then is your heart fill with fain? Shall I come back?

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<v Speaker 6>Love you till the deed? Are your own song? Son?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first half of the song. The song version

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<v Speaker 1>all questions A man is wondering whether his lover misses him.

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<v Speaker 1>Then comes the spoken bridge, in which the emotional tables

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<v Speaker 1>are turned and the man leaves himself bare. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>lonesome Tonight? Has been recorded countless times over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of performers leave out the bridge because it's

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<v Speaker 1>corny and way too long and hard. Elvis kept it in,

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<v Speaker 1>so does Jack White.

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<v Speaker 19>I wonder if you're lonesome tonight? You know someone said

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<v Speaker 19>that the world's a stage and each must play a part.

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<v Speaker 19>I fate had me playing in.

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<v Speaker 1>Love with you as my sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 15>That one was where we met.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved you at first glance. You read your line so.

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<v Speaker 15>Cleverly and never missed a cue. Thing came that too.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem to change.

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<v Speaker 6>You acted strange, and why I've never known.

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<v Speaker 1>Honey.

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<v Speaker 4>You lied when you said.

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<v Speaker 6>You loved me, and I had no cause to doubt you.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'd rather go on hearing your lies.

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<v Speaker 19>To go on living without you. Now the stage is bare,

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<v Speaker 19>and I was standing there with emptiness all around. And

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<v Speaker 19>if you won't come back to me, and then.

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<v Speaker 17>You bring the curtain down, is your heart feel? Shall

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<v Speaker 17>not come back again to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Song to nice?

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<v Speaker 7>Whoa wait?

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<v Speaker 10>You you?

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<v Speaker 1>You enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 17>I did?

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<v Speaker 15>It gets I gets uh, there's some nice parts where

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<v Speaker 15>it gets the you can see uh playing that live now?

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<v Speaker 1>I just did that like well, we just did that.

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<v Speaker 15>I played it once yesterday reading this, but now playing

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<v Speaker 15>like that, I could see wild live You could really

0:28:08.916 --> 0:28:11.396
<v Speaker 15>that really could get to be a really emotional song.

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<v Speaker 6>So I didn't really think about it until just then.

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<v Speaker 1>What led you to think that just now?

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<v Speaker 6>Because it feels like, well, it's in a mine.

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<v Speaker 15>It's a lot of minor chords, so that that that's

0:28:22.516 --> 0:28:25.036
<v Speaker 15>already gets you in that melancholy vibe, but it has

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<v Speaker 15>it has that. What just occurred to me now is

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<v Speaker 15>he doesn't he doesn't He doesn't really care that if

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<v Speaker 15>she's lonesome, he's lonesome, that the singer is lonesome. And

0:28:37.756 --> 0:28:40.756
<v Speaker 15>it's a it's a maguffin to pretend like I'm worried

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<v Speaker 15>about you? Are you lonesome tonight?

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<v Speaker 12>You know?

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<v Speaker 15>But it's really he's the singer is worried about himself.

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<v Speaker 15>So that could be you know, you take that kind

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<v Speaker 15>of emotional song and you put years and years on stage,

0:28:55.556 --> 0:28:57.796
<v Speaker 15>and then you put drugs in the mix, and then

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<v Speaker 15>in your own state of mind at the time, it

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<v Speaker 15>could be a really you could be onto something there.

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<v Speaker 15>It could be a real diversion that it's too powerful

0:29:06.076 --> 0:29:07.076
<v Speaker 15>to sing.

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<v Speaker 1>What's fascinating is that to the some parts, the singer

0:29:12.236 --> 0:29:14.876
<v Speaker 1>is in control and he's worried about her right the

0:29:14.996 --> 0:29:18.436
<v Speaker 1>spoken parts, the singer is vulnerable and he's confessing his

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<v Speaker 1>own and it's so screwed up. It's like, I know

0:29:22.276 --> 0:29:24.316
<v Speaker 1>you lied to me, and I wish you hadn't, right,

0:29:24.716 --> 0:29:26.316
<v Speaker 1>which I didn't know that you lied to me because

0:29:26.316 --> 0:29:29.076
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather be in the state of being deceived than

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<v Speaker 1>know the truth, which is like seventeen convolutions of neuroticism.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, he's still blaming her most of the lines, still

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<v Speaker 6>pointing the finger.

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<v Speaker 1>White says, you can't run from that kind of emotion,

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<v Speaker 1>not if you're singing the song properly. And so when

0:29:47.636 --> 0:29:51.196
<v Speaker 1>he writes songs, he tries to establish some distance between

0:29:51.276 --> 0:29:53.436
<v Speaker 1>himself and the feelings he's singing about.

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<v Speaker 11>I try to push it into a character's standpoint rather

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<v Speaker 11>than it being a self confession confessional for me, because

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<v Speaker 11>I think that would be really hard to consistently keep

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<v Speaker 11>living that moment over and over and over again. I've

0:30:09.236 --> 0:30:13.196
<v Speaker 11>definitely seen older artists ignoring certain parts of their certain

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<v Speaker 11>songs in their career because it's probably too close to

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<v Speaker 11>home about something or other.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't avoid a song's emotional effects all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially not when you have to read a soliloquy

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of it, which is what the are

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<v Speaker 1>you Lonesome bridge is a speech parachuted into the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of the song.

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<v Speaker 15>I had a little flub moment at one point trying

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<v Speaker 15>to figure out, well, wait a minute, it's a waltz.

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<v Speaker 6>You know you have that so if I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 6>wonder if two three so one two the one.

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<v Speaker 15>Two there, so your brain kind of wants to go.

0:30:57.476 --> 0:31:02.956
<v Speaker 15>I wonder if you're lonesome tonight, that's what your brain

0:31:03.036 --> 0:31:06.556
<v Speaker 15>wants to do. You know, someone said that the world's

0:31:06.596 --> 0:31:08.356
<v Speaker 15>a stage and we must.

0:31:08.276 --> 0:31:11.076
<v Speaker 1>Each play a part. Then it starts to get it

0:31:11.116 --> 0:31:11.716
<v Speaker 1>breaks down.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it would, I mean I would.

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<v Speaker 15>I can definitely say that this would be a lot

0:31:15.076 --> 0:31:17.916
<v Speaker 15>easier if someone else was playing guitar and I could

0:31:17.956 --> 0:31:20.876
<v Speaker 15>just recite, uh that part?

0:31:20.916 --> 0:31:23.716
<v Speaker 1>Which should I recite it while you played the guitar? Yeah,

0:31:23.796 --> 0:31:27.116
<v Speaker 1>let's see do that. Yeah, I'm not going to torture

0:31:27.156 --> 0:31:30.636
<v Speaker 1>you with my rendition of the spoken bridge. Well maybe later.

0:31:31.516 --> 0:31:34.436
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying until I die, I can say I

0:31:34.596 --> 0:31:39.036
<v Speaker 1>played with Jack White and then, because how many opportunities

0:31:39.076 --> 0:31:41.716
<v Speaker 1>am I going to get like this? I asked Jack

0:31:41.756 --> 0:31:45.076
<v Speaker 1>White to help me edit the soliloquy. If one were

0:31:45.156 --> 0:31:50.236
<v Speaker 1>to rewrite it, I'm thinking you that you, uh, you

0:31:50.356 --> 0:31:54.076
<v Speaker 1>lose the first three lines. Fate had me playing in

0:31:54.196 --> 0:31:59.116
<v Speaker 1>love you as my sweetheart, or even Act one was

0:31:59.156 --> 0:32:01.316
<v Speaker 1>when we met? Why don't why don't they just start

0:32:01.356 --> 0:32:01.836
<v Speaker 1>with act one?

0:32:01.956 --> 0:32:02.156
<v Speaker 10>Do I?

0:32:06.156 --> 0:32:09.316
<v Speaker 6>Act one was where I'm met. I loved you at

0:32:09.356 --> 0:32:15.076
<v Speaker 6>the first glance. He read your lines so carefully, never

0:32:15.156 --> 0:32:15.556
<v Speaker 6>missed a Q.

0:32:17.356 --> 0:32:17.996
<v Speaker 15>What did I do there?

0:32:18.156 --> 0:32:20.516
<v Speaker 1>You say carefully instead of cleverly, clever beautiful?

0:32:22.516 --> 0:32:27.156
<v Speaker 6>Then came back too, You seem to change, You acted strange.

0:32:28.116 --> 0:32:32.196
<v Speaker 1>What did Jack White do there? The actual lyric is

0:32:32.956 --> 0:32:37.276
<v Speaker 1>you read your lines so cleverly. He said, you read

0:32:37.356 --> 0:32:42.916
<v Speaker 1>your line so carefully, carefully for cleverly, a man singing

0:32:42.956 --> 0:32:45.876
<v Speaker 1>one of the songs of his musical idol comes to

0:32:45.996 --> 0:32:50.036
<v Speaker 1>the emotionally complex center and what do we hear a

0:32:50.116 --> 0:32:54.436
<v Speaker 1>moment of vulnerability? Can he be as clever as Elvis?

0:32:55.036 --> 0:32:57.556
<v Speaker 1>He's not sure, he must be careful.

0:32:58.356 --> 0:33:02.476
<v Speaker 3>Parapraxis Sometimes you know I love I love him so much,

0:33:02.556 --> 0:33:05.196
<v Speaker 3>and that you know I'm afraid to learn more about

0:33:05.276 --> 0:33:08.516
<v Speaker 3>certain things, like you know it's you're so close to it,

0:33:08.876 --> 0:33:11.116
<v Speaker 3>and you've experienced certain things about.

0:33:12.956 --> 0:33:15.756
<v Speaker 15>You know nothing in comparison to what he went through.

0:33:15.796 --> 0:33:17.596
<v Speaker 15>But you're in the same where we do the same

0:33:17.756 --> 0:33:20.756
<v Speaker 15>kind of thing. We perform, and we go on stages

0:33:20.796 --> 0:33:23.316
<v Speaker 15>and we make records and all this stuff from a

0:33:23.356 --> 0:33:26.596
<v Speaker 15>different time period. But you notice these tiny little moments

0:33:26.636 --> 0:33:29.316
<v Speaker 15>that are when you see certain you're like, Oh, I know.

0:33:29.396 --> 0:33:30.396
<v Speaker 1>Exactly what that's about.

0:33:30.396 --> 0:33:31.716
<v Speaker 15>I know exactly what that feels like.

0:33:37.476 --> 0:33:41.076
<v Speaker 1>There are ten known live recordings of Elvis performing Are

0:33:41.116 --> 0:33:44.356
<v Speaker 1>You Lonesome Tonight, starting in nineteen sixty one in a

0:33:44.436 --> 0:33:47.716
<v Speaker 1>concert at Block Arena in Honolulu, up to the end

0:33:47.796 --> 0:33:51.956
<v Speaker 1>of Elvis's life in nineteen seventy seven. Alan Elms and

0:33:52.076 --> 0:33:55.836
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Heller analyze them all in their essay Twelve Ways

0:33:55.916 --> 0:33:59.596
<v Speaker 1>to Say Lonesome, Assessing error and control in the music

0:33:59.636 --> 0:34:06.396
<v Speaker 1>of Elvis Presley. Elms and Heller find that Elvis performs

0:34:06.476 --> 0:34:09.636
<v Speaker 1>the sung portion of Are You Lonesome Tonight more or

0:34:09.716 --> 0:34:12.716
<v Speaker 1>less flawlessly because the song portion is the part of

0:34:12.756 --> 0:34:15.996
<v Speaker 1>the song where the singer is in control, but in

0:34:16.116 --> 0:34:19.276
<v Speaker 1>the spoken bridge, the narrator is suddenly the one who's

0:34:19.316 --> 0:34:23.116
<v Speaker 1>been deceived and rejected, and that's the part Elvis can't

0:34:23.156 --> 0:34:27.916
<v Speaker 1>get right. Elms and Heller count a total of one

0:34:28.036 --> 0:34:31.636
<v Speaker 1>hundred and nine errors in those ten live performances of

0:34:31.676 --> 0:34:36.196
<v Speaker 1>the spoken Bridge, twenty nine of which involved just four

0:34:36.316 --> 0:34:40.716
<v Speaker 1>lines I loved you at first glance, where he confesses

0:34:40.796 --> 0:34:44.436
<v Speaker 1>the depths of his feelings. You seem to change, You

0:34:44.596 --> 0:34:49.396
<v Speaker 1>acted strange, where he testifies to his betrayal and rejection

0:34:50.396 --> 0:34:54.556
<v Speaker 1>and why I've never known where he expresses his feelings

0:34:54.596 --> 0:35:01.036
<v Speaker 1>of anger and victimization, and with emptiness all around where

0:35:01.076 --> 0:35:05.756
<v Speaker 1>he admits to his loneliness. The most problematic renditions of

0:35:05.836 --> 0:35:08.596
<v Speaker 1>the Bridge are the later ones, which come after the

0:35:08.596 --> 0:35:13.556
<v Speaker 1>summer of nineteen seventy two. What happens in the summer

0:35:13.596 --> 0:35:14.636
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen seventy two?

0:35:15.636 --> 0:35:17.436
<v Speaker 9>And one day you went in and said, I'm leaving.

0:35:20.116 --> 0:35:22.956
<v Speaker 9>There was another man in your life. He was your

0:35:23.036 --> 0:35:26.396
<v Speaker 9>karate teacher, right, Mike Stone. And you went off then

0:35:26.476 --> 0:35:27.156
<v Speaker 9>and lived with him.

0:35:28.556 --> 0:35:32.996
<v Speaker 1>Priscilla Presley back on the couch with Barbara Walters, America's

0:35:33.116 --> 0:35:34.236
<v Speaker 1>prime time Freudian.

0:35:35.076 --> 0:35:37.236
<v Speaker 9>It was said that Elvis tried to kill him. I

0:35:37.356 --> 0:35:39.156
<v Speaker 9>wanted him killed, right? Do you believe that?

0:35:39.956 --> 0:35:42.916
<v Speaker 10>I think at that time, yes, he did. He wanted

0:35:42.956 --> 0:35:43.476
<v Speaker 10>that to happen.

0:35:46.596 --> 0:35:49.756
<v Speaker 5>Do the cheers in your father.

0:35:51.116 --> 0:35:51.996
<v Speaker 4>Seeing empty?

0:35:52.996 --> 0:35:55.796
<v Speaker 8>And do you gay?

0:35:56.876 --> 0:35:58.196
<v Speaker 10>Is that your ball head?

0:35:59.476 --> 0:36:07.596
<v Speaker 7>And wish you had hair filled with pain? She'll I

0:36:07.876 --> 0:36:14.476
<v Speaker 7>come back? Tell me, are you lossome?

0:36:16.916 --> 0:36:17.156
<v Speaker 10>Lord?

0:36:17.316 --> 0:36:17.596
<v Speaker 9>Lord?

0:36:21.196 --> 0:36:21.756
<v Speaker 3>I want.

0:36:24.716 --> 0:36:29.636
<v Speaker 1>A man who fears betrayal and abandonment is portrayed and abandoned.

0:36:33.516 --> 0:36:34.956
<v Speaker 6>And I had no cause to doctor.

0:36:41.796 --> 0:36:44.036
<v Speaker 1>It's too much. He's a wreck.

0:36:48.436 --> 0:36:52.676
<v Speaker 7>Shot again, tell me.

0:36:54.316 --> 0:36:55.516
<v Speaker 5>Why are you Lossome?

0:37:06.676 --> 0:37:09.436
<v Speaker 1>After I left Jack White, I went to see Bobby

0:37:09.476 --> 0:37:12.636
<v Speaker 1>Braddock just down the street at the Sony Studios on

0:37:12.796 --> 0:37:19.676
<v Speaker 1>Nashville's Music Row. This you may remember Bobby Braddock from

0:37:19.756 --> 0:37:24.116
<v Speaker 1>season two of Revisionist History. He's the legendary songwriter I

0:37:24.276 --> 0:37:27.676
<v Speaker 1>called the King of Tears. Braddock wanted to introduce me

0:37:27.836 --> 0:37:30.716
<v Speaker 1>to a good friend of his, a singer songwriter named

0:37:30.796 --> 0:37:31.516
<v Speaker 1>Casey Bowles.

0:37:32.876 --> 0:37:34.276
<v Speaker 12>That's the church across the alto.

0:37:34.836 --> 0:37:38.556
<v Speaker 1>Thirty something long red hair, the kind of person who

0:37:38.636 --> 0:37:41.636
<v Speaker 1>if you touch you expect a little jolt of static.

0:37:43.116 --> 0:37:46.516
<v Speaker 13>Don't work, Oh you won't sing that song that.

0:37:47.116 --> 0:37:49.396
<v Speaker 1>We were in the biggest of the Sony recording studios,

0:37:49.436 --> 0:37:52.276
<v Speaker 1>on the main floor, in a corner where the piano was.

0:37:54.876 --> 0:37:58.476
<v Speaker 1>Casey sang are you Lonesome Tonight? With Bobby on the piano.

0:38:05.956 --> 0:38:07.116
<v Speaker 6>Do you miss me.

0:38:11.316 --> 0:38:11.756
<v Speaker 7>Sobby?

0:38:12.796 --> 0:38:19.676
<v Speaker 1>We drifted, Then we sat and they talked about Nashville.

0:38:20.236 --> 0:38:22.276
<v Speaker 1>They talked about how they both grew up in the

0:38:22.356 --> 0:38:26.036
<v Speaker 1>Church of Christ, the most strict of Southern fundamentalist denominations.

0:38:26.996 --> 0:38:28.076
<v Speaker 1>And they talked about Elvis.

0:38:29.036 --> 0:38:30.276
<v Speaker 12>My dad thought he was Elvis.

0:38:30.516 --> 0:38:34.036
<v Speaker 10>I think, yeah, he really he was a Church of

0:38:34.076 --> 0:38:37.156
<v Speaker 10>Christ song leader and really wanted to be a Jordanaire badly,

0:38:37.876 --> 0:38:40.916
<v Speaker 10>and so Ray Walker was one of the Jordanaires, and

0:38:40.996 --> 0:38:43.596
<v Speaker 10>he tried to emulate him by way of dress and hairstyle.

0:38:44.196 --> 0:38:47.876
<v Speaker 12>And so I grew up either hearing him.

0:38:47.836 --> 0:38:50.956
<v Speaker 10>Say hello, Darlan, nice to see you, or doing this

0:38:51.516 --> 0:38:55.196
<v Speaker 10>sort of you know, is it vaudeville style or just

0:38:55.516 --> 0:38:59.636
<v Speaker 10>just sort of a over the top modeling style.

0:38:59.676 --> 0:39:01.556
<v Speaker 12>I guess is modeling the way you'd say it modeling.

0:39:02.276 --> 0:39:05.996
<v Speaker 1>Then Bobby Braddock started talking about recitations the spoken part

0:39:06.116 --> 0:39:08.836
<v Speaker 1>in many older country songs, and he made the same

0:39:08.876 --> 0:39:11.996
<v Speaker 1>play that Jack White did that they're much easier if

0:39:11.996 --> 0:39:14.796
<v Speaker 1>they're set to music, if you could just as easily

0:39:14.916 --> 0:39:17.796
<v Speaker 1>sing them, like on one of Braddock's most famous songs,

0:39:18.236 --> 0:39:19.836
<v Speaker 1>he Stopped Loving Her Today.

0:39:20.436 --> 0:39:33.876
<v Speaker 13>The vestation she came to see him. We all wonder, Yeah,

0:39:33.996 --> 0:39:36.596
<v Speaker 13>you could sing that she came to see him one

0:39:36.716 --> 0:39:37.356
<v Speaker 13>last time.

0:39:40.276 --> 0:39:42.956
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we all wonder if she would.

0:39:43.636 --> 0:39:47.036
<v Speaker 13>And that works either way. But this is just like, uh,

0:39:47.556 --> 0:39:49.716
<v Speaker 13>we got this song, let's get a recitation, throw it

0:39:49.796 --> 0:39:52.916
<v Speaker 13>in there, and and they Elvis made it work. And

0:39:52.996 --> 0:39:57.116
<v Speaker 13>I'm thinking, just instinctively, just because he was, Uh, he

0:39:57.316 --> 0:39:58.036
<v Speaker 13>was just so good.

0:39:58.956 --> 0:40:02.876
<v Speaker 1>Recitations are unusual these days. Braddock hasn't written one since

0:40:02.916 --> 0:40:05.196
<v Speaker 1>something he did for Toby Keith in the nineteen nineties.

0:40:05.916 --> 0:40:10.396
<v Speaker 13>Last successful recitation song. I was actually it was, well,

0:40:10.516 --> 0:40:12.276
<v Speaker 13>actually it was it was. It was a hip hop thing.

0:40:12.316 --> 0:40:15.676
<v Speaker 13>I want to talk about me. But that was talking, talking, talking,

0:40:16.156 --> 0:40:16.396
<v Speaker 13>That's what.

0:40:16.396 --> 0:40:16.996
<v Speaker 12>I'm thinking about.

0:40:17.876 --> 0:40:19.916
<v Speaker 1>You know, wait, can you can?

0:40:19.956 --> 0:40:19.996
<v Speaker 7>You?

0:40:20.156 --> 0:40:21.836
<v Speaker 1>Can you pay a little slice of that? You remember?

0:40:22.716 --> 0:40:27.756
<v Speaker 13>I never do that? Why do that always? I always

0:40:27.836 --> 0:40:29.836
<v Speaker 13>do it with with with a karaoke thing where I

0:40:29.876 --> 0:40:34.236
<v Speaker 13>get up there and play the thing I want to

0:40:34.236 --> 0:40:36.316
<v Speaker 13>talk about me? We want to talk about I want

0:40:36.316 --> 0:40:39.316
<v Speaker 13>to talk about number one. You talk about your work,

0:40:39.396 --> 0:40:41.076
<v Speaker 13>how your boss is a jerk. You talk about your

0:40:41.116 --> 0:40:43.236
<v Speaker 13>church in your head and your church, talk about the

0:40:43.276 --> 0:40:45.196
<v Speaker 13>trouble you've been having with your mother and your daddy,

0:40:45.476 --> 0:40:47.116
<v Speaker 13>with your brother and your daddy and your mother and

0:40:47.196 --> 0:40:53.916
<v Speaker 13>your crazy ex lover, you know, and then and then

0:40:53.996 --> 0:40:57.076
<v Speaker 13>the minstrel minstrel period of line, which everybody said, you

0:40:57.156 --> 0:40:59.436
<v Speaker 13>can't put that in a song, nobody will ever cut it,

0:40:59.516 --> 0:41:02.036
<v Speaker 13>you know, And it was one of the biggest songs

0:41:02.076 --> 0:41:06.476
<v Speaker 13>ever had about your medical charts and when you start

0:41:08.036 --> 0:41:13.076
<v Speaker 13>take that out nobody recording. Toby Keith did, here's probably

0:41:13.156 --> 0:41:14.236
<v Speaker 13>one one who would have though.

0:41:15.996 --> 0:41:19.356
<v Speaker 1>Then I showed them the prize. I brought it my bag,

0:41:20.156 --> 0:41:23.956
<v Speaker 1>my copy of the Handbook of Psycho Biography containing the

0:41:24.076 --> 0:41:27.716
<v Speaker 1>Heller and Elms essay. Hold on, I have my book here.

0:41:28.316 --> 0:41:33.356
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that's fashion. To a pair of Elvis fanatics,

0:41:33.556 --> 0:41:36.076
<v Speaker 1>it was like I'd unearthed the Dead Sea scrolls.

0:41:36.636 --> 0:41:37.236
<v Speaker 13>What's the book?

0:41:38.156 --> 0:41:41.476
<v Speaker 1>A book called Handbook of psycho Biography, and it has

0:41:41.516 --> 0:41:45.836
<v Speaker 1>an essay on this song Wow cycle biography and so yeah,

0:41:45.916 --> 0:41:48.716
<v Speaker 1>so here's so this guy has gone through. It made

0:41:48.716 --> 0:41:53.836
<v Speaker 1>a chart all of the lyrical mistakes that Elvis made

0:41:53.876 --> 0:42:00.076
<v Speaker 1>in every known live recording of These were two songwriters,

0:42:00.356 --> 0:42:03.196
<v Speaker 1>and I felt they immediately saw themselves in that chart.

0:42:03.916 --> 0:42:07.076
<v Speaker 1>Do you find yourself making the kind of error, sometimes

0:42:07.156 --> 0:42:10.076
<v Speaker 1>even subtle ones, that you been talking about?

0:42:10.156 --> 0:42:10.876
<v Speaker 12>That's so interesting.

0:42:11.116 --> 0:42:13.916
<v Speaker 10>I wrote a song about my mother called Somebody Something,

0:42:14.276 --> 0:42:18.476
<v Speaker 10>and my mother is adorable, And whenever you heard about

0:42:18.836 --> 0:42:21.276
<v Speaker 10>things going wrong or like some tumultu a story, it

0:42:21.436 --> 0:42:23.116
<v Speaker 10>was my dad. And so I finally was like, you

0:42:23.156 --> 0:42:24.956
<v Speaker 10>know what, wantn't we the only person in the family

0:42:25.076 --> 0:42:27.236
<v Speaker 10>that there's nothing I have it written about. So it's

0:42:27.276 --> 0:42:29.116
<v Speaker 10>trying to dig dirt on her and there was nothing,

0:42:29.676 --> 0:42:32.116
<v Speaker 10>And so I ended up writing this song about her

0:42:32.316 --> 0:42:35.636
<v Speaker 10>called Somebody Something, and I cry every time I do it.

0:42:36.116 --> 0:42:39.596
<v Speaker 10>And there is a line that says, you know, she's

0:42:39.636 --> 0:42:42.516
<v Speaker 10>always been somebody something. She's lived every life but her own,

0:42:45.076 --> 0:42:46.796
<v Speaker 10>and it's gone. I can't remember it right now.

0:42:47.996 --> 0:42:48.836
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that feeling.

0:42:49.076 --> 0:42:53.036
<v Speaker 12>I can't remember it. She's always been somebody something. It's

0:42:53.076 --> 0:42:54.676
<v Speaker 12>been everything but alone.

0:42:55.356 --> 0:42:58.716
<v Speaker 10>A daughter, a mother, a lot, a daughter, a lover,

0:42:59.236 --> 0:43:02.636
<v Speaker 10>a wife, and a mother. She's lived every life but

0:43:02.796 --> 0:43:07.676
<v Speaker 10>her own. Yeah, she's always been somebody's something. And there's

0:43:07.676 --> 0:43:09.796
<v Speaker 10>a line that says, you know, she she wonders what

0:43:09.996 --> 0:43:14.076
<v Speaker 10>it might be like to be somebody else, and she wonders.

0:43:15.876 --> 0:43:17.276
<v Speaker 12>What it feels like to be free.

0:43:18.716 --> 0:43:21.676
<v Speaker 10>But she's always imagined being nobody's nothing, and that's something

0:43:21.756 --> 0:43:22.596
<v Speaker 10>she never want to be.

0:43:23.396 --> 0:43:26.676
<v Speaker 12>But that line usually is just gone.

0:43:26.876 --> 0:43:29.156
<v Speaker 10>And a lot of times I'll go hold on and

0:43:29.436 --> 0:43:31.556
<v Speaker 10>divert and tell a funny story really quickly.

0:43:33.436 --> 0:43:38.196
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's the specific line that's gone? Is which one?

0:43:38.836 --> 0:43:38.956
<v Speaker 10>Uh?

0:43:39.556 --> 0:43:42.956
<v Speaker 12>What's go on again? She's always been somebody's Cynthia's been

0:43:42.996 --> 0:43:46.076
<v Speaker 12>everything but alone, daughter, a lover, a daughter, a lover,

0:43:46.236 --> 0:43:53.196
<v Speaker 12>a wife, and a mother. She's been everything but alone. Yeah, yeah,

0:43:54.556 --> 0:43:55.476
<v Speaker 12>why is it that line?

0:43:55.516 --> 0:44:02.076
<v Speaker 10>I don't know. I think that I don't know. I

0:44:02.116 --> 0:44:05.756
<v Speaker 10>think when you even she's so when you see somebody

0:44:05.836 --> 0:44:08.756
<v Speaker 10>give so much of themselves and that's truly the only

0:44:08.796 --> 0:44:10.076
<v Speaker 10>thing that she will never experience.

0:44:10.156 --> 0:44:12.076
<v Speaker 12>And I think it's what I've experienced the most stuff.

0:44:13.876 --> 0:44:17.756
<v Speaker 1>A minute before, we were joking about Toby Keith. Now

0:44:17.876 --> 0:44:22.076
<v Speaker 1>Casey is pensive as she compares her mother's life to

0:44:22.236 --> 0:44:22.956
<v Speaker 1>her own.

0:44:23.996 --> 0:44:26.716
<v Speaker 10>Not being able to make a relationship work the first

0:44:26.836 --> 0:44:28.796
<v Speaker 10>eighteen thousand times out of the gate or you know,

0:44:28.836 --> 0:44:29.996
<v Speaker 10>officially the first two and.

0:44:31.476 --> 0:44:34.156
<v Speaker 6>Not being a mother and she real close.

0:44:35.156 --> 0:44:35.796
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I love her.

0:44:37.156 --> 0:44:38.156
<v Speaker 11>Go to church where they're right?

0:44:38.316 --> 0:44:39.596
<v Speaker 12>Do I sit still?

0:44:40.316 --> 0:44:41.196
<v Speaker 10>Because she makes me?

0:44:41.396 --> 0:44:42.356
<v Speaker 1>You know, I stay awake.

0:44:42.556 --> 0:44:42.996
<v Speaker 6>It's good.

0:44:44.276 --> 0:44:47.356
<v Speaker 13>When I was a kid, if I'd get bored in

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<v Speaker 13>church and my mother'd reach them and pinch me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I got smacked, Casey, Can you play that song

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<v Speaker 1>for us? Is it going to be two?

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<v Speaker 12>Let's see? Okay, Okay, well I will see if this happens.

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<v Speaker 10>She grew up playing cowgirl.

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<v Speaker 12>In bil Road Town.

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<v Speaker 10>Dream and she'd see, Oh, shoot, hold on, there's a

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<v Speaker 10>lit line bet Elvis in this that's just random.

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<v Speaker 12>Hold on dream and see chee Holly. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 12>do again. What did I just say? Sorry, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 12>about mom. She grew up playing cowgirl.

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<v Speaker 10>She grew up playing cowgirl.

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<v Speaker 12>In a railroad town.

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<v Speaker 10>Dream and she'd see Hollywood someday, she knew, some distant Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Night with a cigarette, just.

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<v Speaker 12>They would come in and carry you away as far

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<v Speaker 12>shake Coulsie from there. Those were just that's all right.

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<v Speaker 12>Hold on second.

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<v Speaker 1>My first reaction to Casey's failure of memory was to

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<v Speaker 1>be embarrassed for her, worried that she had lost control.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way we're trained to think. Just listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the words I've just used, failure, embarrassed, worried in one

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<v Speaker 1>way or another. That's what this season of Revisionist History

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<v Speaker 1>has been about, about the ways we judge each other

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<v Speaker 1>for our mistakes and choices. The easiest thing in the

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<v Speaker 1>world is to look at those mistakes and condemn. The

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<v Speaker 1>much harder thing is to look at those mistakes and understand.

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<v Speaker 12>In December anywhere and address her Mama maid. She looked dark,

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<v Speaker 12>grown up, standing, there like that had a honeymoon in

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<v Speaker 12>Memphis Town. Yeah, she looked for as all around may

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<v Speaker 12>loving the greyhound coming back. As far as she could

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<v Speaker 12>say from there, those were just the facts. Slide. You

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<v Speaker 12>went from somebody's daughter, somebody's.

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<v Speaker 1>Wife, Jesus, Parapraxis is not failure. When the performer slips,

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<v Speaker 1>the audience is not cheated. It's the opposite. Parapraxis is

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<v Speaker 1>a gift. I presented myself as interested in this story,

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<v Speaker 1>but now you know that the subject doesn't just interest me,

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<v Speaker 1>It worries me. Losing control is my great anxiety. When

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<v Speaker 1>Jack White said carefully instead of cleverly, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>hint that playing Elvis wasn't a trivial matter for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a sacred act, carefully full of care. And Elvis,

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<v Speaker 1>after the loss of Priscilla, sang a song hit sung

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand times only now in a way that gave

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<v Speaker 1>the audience a window on his pane. Mistakes reveal our vulnerabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the way the world understands us, the way

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<v Speaker 1>performers make their performances real. So Bobby Braddock and I

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<v Speaker 1>sat there listening to Casey's sing, tears in her eyes

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<v Speaker 1>fumbling to remember the lyrics of a song about her mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Fumbling not because your mother didn't matter to her, but

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<v Speaker 1>because she did.

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<v Speaker 12>She's always there, somebody something then everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Daughter, Wow, Dona?

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<v Speaker 12>Who why a fan?

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<v Speaker 2>Mother?

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<v Speaker 8>She's live every life.

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<v Speaker 12>But she'd say, that's just call Alma. She's always there,

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<v Speaker 12>somebody's some.

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<v Speaker 1>God, it's beautiful. Why are you covering your mouth?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm just it's just weird.

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<v Speaker 10>Because I've never it's just weird when you're thinking about

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<v Speaker 10>what it is like, I just thought, oh, bad memory,

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<v Speaker 10>too many songs, old, too many songs in there. But

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<v Speaker 10>at any point in time, I could pull out a

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<v Speaker 10>rap from new edition from nineteen eighty two, like why

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<v Speaker 10>is that in there? And something that you wrote is

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<v Speaker 10>not in there?

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<v Speaker 12>That is so weird?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not weird. A lesser person would have sung it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to Season three of Revisionist History,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you like this episode, you'll enjoy my new

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<v Speaker 1>series launching later this year. It's called Broken Record, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can subscribe right now on Apple Podcasts. Revisionist History

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<v Speaker 1>is a Panoply production and your producer is Mia LaBelle,

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<v Speaker 1>with Jacob Smith and Camille Baptista. Our editor is Julia Barton.

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<v Speaker 1>Lawn Williams is our engineer. Fact checking by Beth Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>Original music by Luis Skira. Special thanks to Kim Green

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<v Speaker 1>and Hal Humphries of Storyboard e MP in Nashville and

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<v Speaker 1>here in New York. Thanks to Jason Gambrell, Evan Viola,

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Strom, Nicole Bunsis, Kate Mescal, Kristen Meinzer, Carle Migliore,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Bauers, and of course El Hafe Jacob Weisberg. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Glamo, Okay, so it will be. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>you're lonesome tonight. You know, someone said that the world's

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<v Speaker 1>a stage and each must play a part. Fate had

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<v Speaker 1>me playing in love you as my sweetheart. Act one

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<v Speaker 1>was when we met. I loved you at first glance.

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<v Speaker 1>You read your lines so cleverly and never missed a que.

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<v Speaker 1>Then came act too. You seem to change, and you

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<v Speaker 1>acted strange and why I'll never know. Honey. You lie

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<v Speaker 1>when you said you loved me, and I had no

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<v Speaker 1>cause to doubt you. But I'd rather go on hearing

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<v Speaker 1>your lies than go on living without you. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>stage is bare, and I'm standing there with emptyiness all around.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you won't come back to me, then make

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<v Speaker 1>them bring the curtain down. How about doing nice, very good.

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<v Speaker 1>I must say I'm not very musical.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's very good.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good, yeah,