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Speaker 1: pinned in the chat. The Spurs beat the Lakers to
Speaker 1: advance to the semifinals of the NBA Cup by the
Speaker 1: score of one nineteen. The Spurs won fire to night,
Speaker 1: shooting forty five percent from three and the Lakers just
Speaker 1: could not guard Luca had thirty five points, seven and
Speaker 1: siss five rebounds. Lebron seventeen points, fourteen rebounds, six assists.
Speaker 1: But Austin Reeves struggled tonight, Ruis struggled tonight, and they
Speaker 1: just could not defend. Joe stefan Castle had thirty points,
Speaker 1: ten rebounds, uh six assists.
Speaker 2: They had.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I think they had seven players
Speaker 1: and double figures. Their bench scored like forty four forty
Speaker 1: five points, and the Lakers only got bench production from
Speaker 1: Marcus mart But Joe watching this ball game, and we look,
Speaker 1: we know Oster Reeves struggled tonight. That's that's an a
Speaker 1: normally he anomaly. He's played great the entire season, so
Speaker 1: we know they can score. Luca's gonna give you somewhere
Speaker 1: between thirty and thirty five a night. Austin Reeves probably
Speaker 1: gonna give you somewhere between twenty five and thirty a knight.
Speaker 1: Lebron is gonna be the third option. He's gonna give
Speaker 1: you somewhere between fifteen and twenty a night. The issue
Speaker 1: is not going to be scoring. The issue is gonna
Speaker 1: be can they defend consistently? Because Lebron is going about
Speaker 1: to be forty one. Luca has never been a defender,
Speaker 1: and Auston Reeve's got to taste of offense in his mouth,
Speaker 1: not Joe.
Speaker 2: So do you know what you start like, Hey, man,
Speaker 2: they're gonna pay me.
Speaker 1: Two under meal to put the ball in the basket,
Speaker 1: not to defend, and so they're gonna that's gonna be
Speaker 1: their issue. But I was surprised, But how well the
Speaker 1: Spurs played tonight, I wasn't really surprised.
Speaker 3: You know, you got to give props to the Spurs
Speaker 3: on Kenocho, but you know, the Lakers just coming off
Speaker 3: their road trip on the East Coast. Man, that's a
Speaker 3: three hour difference. It takes a little while for the
Speaker 3: body to get back acclimated, you know, to a specific time.
Speaker 3: If I'm the Lakers, obviously you're definitely disappointed being at home.
Speaker 3: But you gotta get a Spurs credit. Man, they got
Speaker 3: a lot of young cats who can put that ball
Speaker 3: in the hole, man, young legs. Hey, the youth came
Speaker 3: in to play tonight. But like I said, I thought
Speaker 3: the Lakers were definitely lethargic off of this East Coast
Speaker 3: trip they just came off of. So their first game
Speaker 3: back on Kenocho. It's always a little tough for a
Speaker 3: little difficult. Legs are kind of, you know, a little dead.
Speaker 3: But if I'm the Lakers, I wouldn't put too much
Speaker 3: into this. I'll probably just kind of wipe my hands
Speaker 3: with it, chalk it up, and prepare for the next one.
Speaker 3: But the Spurs look good, man, considering that they playing
Speaker 3: without winby Yeah, like they they they're at the top
Speaker 3: of the You look at OKC and what they what
Speaker 3: they've done. But the Spurs and the Lakers have been
Speaker 3: right there. And the Spurs have continuously throughout this entire
Speaker 3: season been playing great basketball. So I gotta get him
Speaker 3: a lot of properts. They look good tonight.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh yo joe.
Speaker 1: Spurs got thirty nine in the first quarter, got thirty
Speaker 1: one in the second quarter, so that's seventy points at
Speaker 1: the half. Then they go get thirty four and the third.
Speaker 1: That's one hundred and four points. You're gonna have a
Speaker 1: very tough time. You let teams score that many points.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a hard ass. Unless you shooting at
Speaker 1: an elite level. You let a team score like that,
Speaker 1: you got your work cutout for. You got your work
Speaker 1: cutout for you, and then they got twenty eight. Then
Speaker 1: they got twenty eight to fourth quarter, when you know
Speaker 1: they kind of took their foot off the gas. The
Speaker 1: issue for the Lakers, and I still believe this, Joe
Speaker 1: and I think you agree, is gonna be defend, defend.
Speaker 2: Can they defend? Can they defend? Then they're gonna score.
Speaker 2: Luca's gonna Luca Lucas gonna give you. I mean, he
Speaker 2: got an easy equal.
Speaker 1: Look, he's gonna go off every first quarter because he's
Speaker 1: gonna get up about fifteen shots, so there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great chance he's gonna have somewhere between twenty and twenty,
Speaker 1: maybe even thirty points in the first quarter. So he's
Speaker 1: gonna get He's gonna get off to a great start.
Speaker 1: The question is can they defend, because what happens when
Speaker 1: your shots. See what happened was they got off to
Speaker 1: a great start, and when it wasn't defending, it was
Speaker 1: fine because the Spurs missed a couple of shots and
Speaker 1: the Lakers, you know, right back at them. But what
Speaker 1: happens when those shots shots start stopped falling of Joe
Speaker 1: and Ojo, and then all of a sudden, the other
Speaker 1: team couldn't miss. You can't get noo stops to quell
Speaker 1: that rush. O Joe looking at this game, man, I
Speaker 1: mean look Stefan Castle. You see why he runs Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year. Yes you are man, Fox Deer and Fox.
Speaker 4: Hey, that's that boy, man and a deep and he
Speaker 4: always hey listen, he always been that boy were down
Speaker 4: there in sack Town. I just the fact that I'm
Speaker 4: not sure why certain players, I think depending on where
Speaker 4: they play. Obviously, if you're not flaming boyant, if you're
Speaker 4: not flashy, you don't get the credit you're not. You're
Speaker 4: not seen on TV as often as you should, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, especially those they don't watch the.
Speaker 5: Game of basketball. But but he liked that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he always been like that.
Speaker 4: And as far as the Lakers are concerned, on they
Speaker 4: they've really never been able to play defense. You understand,
Speaker 4: that's not the way that team is built. They're they're
Speaker 4: they're off of the juggernaut. And when Rui was off
Speaker 4: the night, when Austin ree was off to night, you know,
Speaker 4: it had it's something has to offset them not having defense.
Speaker 5: So they have no choice but to be efficient.
Speaker 4: They got no choice. But from the field, and everybody
Speaker 4: has to be on. Everybody got agree. You know tonight you.
Speaker 5: Had two individuals that score.
Speaker 4: I mean they they they are part of the scoring
Speaker 4: obviously Lebron Luca, you know they they could do. But
Speaker 4: if U and Austin not on, they really don't stand
Speaker 4: no chance. Not just against the Spurs, but hell, anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah that could score it will. They're always gonna be
Speaker 2: a problem. If you go back and study the Lakers,
Speaker 2: Joe and O Joe.
Speaker 1: If you look at the Lakers, say the past, since
Speaker 1: let's just take since Lebron been there. Yeah, thing that's
Speaker 1: always given them problem. Elite back court courts, quick back courts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys who can.
Speaker 1: Always give go back and look at since Lebron has
Speaker 1: been there, teams that Darren Fox has always given them fits.
Speaker 1: Shaye is always gonna give them fits. Somebody that has
Speaker 1: an elite tyrese MAXI guys that John Moran.
Speaker 2: Anybody that has an.
Speaker 1: Elite back court is gonna cause them problem because they
Speaker 1: can't defend that. They can't defend on ball. So you
Speaker 1: come with help, they swing it. You rotate one more time. Now,
Speaker 1: guys wide open, so they don't have guys they don't
Speaker 1: have guys that can. They can't rotate multiple times, and
Speaker 1: the thing would makes okay, see so great they could
Speaker 1: rotate once twice, three times.
Speaker 2: Four times, five times a lady.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they always gonna have three elite level ball
Speaker 1: defense on ball defenders. They're gonna be on the court
Speaker 1: of all times. Oh yeah, you got carusso ed, you
Speaker 1: brought Wallace, he it you just bring you just Joe
Speaker 1: comes in. You just they just keep throwing people at
Speaker 1: you and at you and at you and at you.
Speaker 2: It just it just overwhelmed you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the okay, see, got defensive minded guys,
Speaker 3: you know, and they playing extended defense, meaning they picking
Speaker 3: a full court. The Lakers are more built. They're gonna
Speaker 3: try to outscore you pire point blank. Uh. And I
Speaker 3: thought they were very lethargic to thing. Like I said,
Speaker 3: I thought they was a step of two slow to
Speaker 3: night too, okay, Joe, uh and the young team, that
Speaker 3: young Spurs team took advantage of a Lakers team. Like
Speaker 3: I said, they had been on the road just coming
Speaker 3: back home, so they probably was a little relaxed. And uh,
Speaker 3: like I said, Man, the Spurs look good.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: They sit on top of the West as well, and
Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing them play. Okay, see, man,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be They're gonna be a great team, a
Speaker 3: fun team to watch. So well, I was gonna go
Speaker 3: to the I was gonna go to the game. But
Speaker 3: I ain't going now why because the Lakers ain't playing.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see no, Okay, seeing Spurs, man,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a good game. I'd rather go watch
Speaker 1: a worm fight to jumping Jackson, red woodlers fighting, who's
Speaker 1: gonna get whos gonna get eaten by the fish?
Speaker 3: Hey, hold up, I think I think women gonna be back, though,
Speaker 3: I think women gonna be back for the championship.
Speaker 1: Don't care about that. Big Bend can be back, The
Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower can be back.
Speaker 2: I ain't going.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hell of a game where you're
Speaker 1: gonna wish you went to this game? What you what
Speaker 1: you would have bet the ratings will be.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be high, I mean the Lakers. If the
Speaker 3: Lakers is playing, they probably be a little higher, but
Speaker 3: they gonna be a little Luca and Lebron. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I'm saying, hey, look, you can't you can't deny with okay,
Speaker 3: see doing no oh no.
Speaker 2: No no no no no no no no, like two
Speaker 2: things can be true. Joke.
Speaker 1: Always think about it. The Spurs have always been been
Speaker 1: really really good, even when they had Duncan. Even that
Speaker 1: manu u uh, Tony Parker and Ni Kawai came late,
Speaker 1: but they also been a low draw.
Speaker 2: That's just that's just the wad is.
Speaker 5: Hey what they playing that game at Joe Vegas?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 5: Hey, what aren't that right there? But that right there?
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping. I'm getting some rest.
Speaker 3: Hold on.
Speaker 5: You don't want to go to the game.
Speaker 1: I don't do you want to go to the game? Joke?
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm winning. What's up, old Joe? Where we're going?
Speaker 5: We can fly down man when the game is Saturday.
Speaker 5: Oh damn. I got to be in Philly, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah see I knew it. I think I got something
Speaker 2: to do too, And I got to be in my bed.
Speaker 5: I ain't you ain't got to be in the ain't got.
Speaker 2: Got to be. You don't have to, you don't have
Speaker 2: to what I gotta do.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna tall you like crazy Joe told
Speaker 4: totally men and lean on me. You gotta do stay
Speaker 4: black and it's time to go, time to go.
Speaker 5: That's it. Anything else out side of that, you gotta
Speaker 5: we can go to the game.
Speaker 1: No you can't. Yah, man, I do not wish to
Speaker 1: go to the game. I had never saw I never
Speaker 1: seen Luca play, so I wanted to see Luca.
Speaker 5: So if the Lakers was playing, you would have went
Speaker 5: to the game.
Speaker 1: I absolutely would have went to the game. Absolutely, one thousand,
Speaker 1: a trillion percent.
Speaker 5: You would have said, would said courtside.
Speaker 2: Ten million percent. Damn, that's if they do.
Speaker 1: If they did it like the first time they did it, Joe,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like it really wasn't like no
Speaker 1: court side. It's kind of hard to explain. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it was cool. It was cool the lights. You know,
Speaker 1: the Lakers won the first one. Uh, they beat Indiana.
Speaker 1: Lebron was the MVP of the thing. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really good. But yeah, that was when my god
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, Lakers, they let me down. So
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta wait for another game to see Luca.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was it was uphill all night man. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they got up to a great start. I thought the
Speaker 1: Lakers got off to a really good start. But then look,
Speaker 1: the thing is if you get off to a great
Speaker 1: start and you're not playing defense, that's fine. But what
Speaker 1: happens when you start missing shots and you're not playing
Speaker 1: defense and you can't keep nobody in front of you.
Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, lay up, they missed
Speaker 1: a shot, they get the rebound put back. You was
Speaker 1: up sick, Now you're up for Kelton Johnson comes in
Speaker 1: hit back to back threes to get them going, and.
Speaker 2: Then from that point on they really never looked back.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: For me, I never got the sense that the Lakers
Speaker 1: were really really into it. I mean, I think they
Speaker 1: cut it to eight, and then the Spurs push it
Speaker 1: back to twelve right before the half. And then they
Speaker 1: come right out the half and hear the three to
Speaker 1: start Lakers here the three, and.
Speaker 2: The next thing you know, they go boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1: The next thing you know, what was the twelve point
Speaker 1: leaders a twenty point league?
Speaker 2: It's just like that. The Spurs are deep, man, they deep.
Speaker 2: They got a deep team. Man.
Speaker 3: They got a lot of guys who contribute. They don't
Speaker 3: just lean on one guy. They hit you no, no, no.
Speaker 3: So I was in prison, I ain't gonna lie I
Speaker 3: was in prison. They've been playing great ball off season,
Speaker 3: so it was, you know, good to kind of see
Speaker 3: him going la and really take that challenge and really
Speaker 3: just take control of the game. I looked up to
Speaker 3: start the third the second half, I thought the Lakers
Speaker 3: was down ten or so. Next thing I know, they
Speaker 3: down twenty. Yeah, they were quire down. They would they started,
Speaker 3: they were down team, they was down. You know, Okay,
Speaker 3: they made a three and then I think it was Borings.
Speaker 1: To come back and match it with a three, and
Speaker 1: then next thing you know, they go like go eight
Speaker 1: to oh and and just like that is it's twenty
Speaker 1: it's twenty four, and they really really, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think Austin Reeves struggled to night.
Speaker 2: He just didn't have it tonight for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Looked like you said, it was a tough game for
Speaker 1: them in Philly, because that was a game who could
Speaker 1: played extremely well. Ron had what twenty nine and and
Speaker 1: and played extremely well. Austin did what did what he does.
Speaker 1: But the night they just they just didn't have it.
Speaker 1: And I think I don't know if it was I
Speaker 1: think it was more soa Spurs then the Laker's not
Speaker 1: having it. I think the Spurs aided and than not
Speaker 1: having it because they were able to push the pace.
Speaker 1: They got guys that can handle the ball. Step Stafan
Speaker 1: Castle is amazing, bra get a heads it then direct
Speaker 1: Darren Fox had you know, Austar reeves On skates, Caldon
Speaker 1: Johnson came in. Vassal didn't even really play that well tonight.
Speaker 1: I thought Corny Cornett gave him some valuable minus inside
Speaker 1: with his presence, rebounding challenging shots. They turned the ball over,
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to probably put a little bit more
Speaker 1: distance between when they had a six point lead, maybe
Speaker 1: could have pushed into eight to ten. But some turnovers
Speaker 1: they got careless and you know, layups on the other end,
Speaker 1: and so no, I think, Look, I think the Lakers
Speaker 1: are gonna be fine. Do I think right now they
Speaker 1: probably need another defender. They probably need another defender that
Speaker 1: can depend on the perimeter because it seems like Vanderbilder
Speaker 1: is out of the rotation.
Speaker 2: Joe, Yeah, I know, I ain't seen him.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I like old Vendo.
Speaker 3: I like his energy and ef that he bring to
Speaker 3: the game, and it seemed like tonight they could have
Speaker 3: used it. And I thought Marcus Smart came in and
Speaker 3: gave him some some big minutes. But the Lakers gonna struggle. Man,
Speaker 3: when you can't keep guys in front of you and
Speaker 3: you keep getting your defense broke down and guys spreading
Speaker 3: out for three throwing live shooting floaters, it's just that's
Speaker 3: gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough to deal with.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be hard for also Joe because he
Speaker 1: can't shoot the three. Because they're gonna come help off Lucas,
Speaker 1: They're gonna come help off Reeve, They're gonna come help
Speaker 1: off Bron. So when they swing it, do you see
Speaker 1: how many open threes that Marcus Smart got? Yeah, when
Speaker 1: they kept swinging, kept swinging, they kept swinging. You see
Speaker 1: ruin open threes, open threes.
Speaker 2: The Toronto game. What happened? They collapsed on bron ruin
Speaker 2: wide open Marcus Smart? How many? I mean he he
Speaker 2: came in.
Speaker 1: I think he might have got ten or eleven three
Speaker 1: point attempts and I'm not so sure any of them
Speaker 1: was contested. So that's why it's gonna be hard for
Speaker 1: Vando to play. Yeah, he's a he's a good wing
Speaker 1: defender on ball defender. But if you can't shoot the three,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for you to get unless you're
Speaker 1: eight d eight, unless you're eighting.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna have to be able to shoot the three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's just it's tough because they put
Speaker 3: it puts so much pressure on the Lakers perimeter guys,
Speaker 3: because Austin, Luca and Bron obviously all perimeter guys, and
Speaker 3: they gotta be efficient, okay, oh Joe for them to
Speaker 3: really look good. You know, they can't really you know, uh,
Speaker 3: afford to you know, not have good nights because it's
Speaker 3: gonna be nice like this where you don't really get
Speaker 3: a lot of points in the paint and you can't
Speaker 3: really depend on aiden like that. Since you know, obviously
Speaker 3: Lebron's come back his you know, his production, his productivity
Speaker 3: is gonna probably kind of the window a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ideos he's not gonna get as many laws
Speaker 1: from Luca. I mean, Lebron was looking for him a
Speaker 1: little bit tonight. But hey, look, I expect longer they
Speaker 1: can give us a look, I'm expecting somewhere if he
Speaker 1: can give us fourteen to sixteen on the night, Joe
Speaker 1: with a double figure rebounds. That's that's pretty much what
Speaker 1: you can expect for him. Every once in a while
Speaker 1: he'll surprise you and give you twenty four and twelve,
Speaker 1: twenty four and fourteen. But that's not a normal occurrence.
Speaker 1: I'm not really expecting. I'm not I'm not finna set
Speaker 1: my clock by that now sitting the more people say
Speaker 1: you can send your clock by it, no you can't,
Speaker 1: No you can't. So look, I'm anxious to see what
Speaker 1: they look like, what the Spurs look like against the Thunder,
Speaker 1: because the Thunder was suffocated tonight. They crushed the Suns.
Speaker 1: Beat them by almost forty, beat them by thirty nine,
Speaker 1: beat them by yeah, thirty thirty nine points.
Speaker 2: They weigh you down, man.
Speaker 1: The Thunder improved to an twenty four and one and
Speaker 1: not tied for the best record in NBA history through
Speaker 1: twenty five games. Chase scored twenty eight points on eleven
Speaker 1: and fifteen shooting. Check had twenty four points on nine
Speaker 1: of thirteen shooting. But that's it again for a second,
Speaker 1: and neither one of them played in the.
Speaker 4: Fourth Aden Boy, Hey, hey, hey, Joe and Uncle, you
Speaker 4: think you think the done to have a chance to
Speaker 4: actually beat the Warrior.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I do, and I think they want to. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So basically, what y'all telling me is they basically gonna repeat.
Speaker 2: I already been been saying that.
Speaker 5: Oh you think, are you serious?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: They look like a.
Speaker 3: Team on a mission? Oh Joe, they don't. They not playing?
Speaker 3: Do you see them boys out there?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: How they compete? They play hard? Man, They play hard.
Speaker 2: They pick up.
Speaker 3: Full court and what it does It wears you down,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And they hit you in ways.
Speaker 3: They got guys coming off the bench who get into it.
Speaker 2: They not playing and they since you know what?
Speaker 1: What? What's I think the most impressive thing about them
Speaker 1: about this team that it looks to me from the
Speaker 1: outside looking in, and Joe you would know better than
Speaker 1: I would, is that they sincerely, genuinely like each other.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know, there's not a whole lot going on in OKC.
Speaker 1: There ain't a whole lot of things you can do.
Speaker 1: You can't go to rock on Redeo driver, you can't
Speaker 1: go canal or you can't go to our basel.
Speaker 2: You can't do all those thinking.
Speaker 1: Okay, see whatever reason, they sincerely genuine I look to me.
Speaker 1: They really like each other. Yeah, I love to see
Speaker 1: them when one's doing When Shane's doing an interview, if
Speaker 1: somebody's doing an interview, everybody's standing around and they watching.
Speaker 2: They clap him for and that's what you gotta have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, hey, uncle Ojo, and they understand their assignment.
Speaker 3: Many they now hung over from the championship.
Speaker 2: They just won.
Speaker 3: Look they what you say, uncle, They got the best
Speaker 3: record through twenty six games, twenty fi tied.
Speaker 2: They tied with the Warriors twenty four and one through
Speaker 2: twenty five games.
Speaker 3: They not playing, man, they you know, they they really
Speaker 3: taking the game serious and understanding what's the stake and
Speaker 3: how they can you know, stamp their way into NBA history.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean this is it's amazing to
Speaker 3: watch bro Like how they hit you in waves. You
Speaker 3: can't double shade for real because they got too many guys.
Speaker 3: All they guys can shoot three except parks die. The
Speaker 3: game looked too easy for him, Joe. They were fifty
Speaker 3: two of there were fifty two of eighty eight from
Speaker 3: the floor.
Speaker 1: They shot fifty nine percent from the floor, They shot
Speaker 1: fifty five percent from the three, They shot ninety two
Speaker 1: percent from the free throw line. They out rebounded, They
Speaker 1: only out rebounded by six, but the biggest lead of
Speaker 1: the game was fifty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was ugly.
Speaker 5: Did the other team even show up? Did you at
Speaker 5: least pinch you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Ja, Well, it looked like they didn't take the warm
Speaker 1: ups off if they did show up, Okay, seet got
Speaker 1: right to it. Yeah, they got right to it. They
Speaker 1: did not fool around. And that's what they They're not
Speaker 1: pulling around their dispatching teams and a let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and do what we need to do and get up
Speaker 1: out of it. Hey, hey, hey, and shape making easy work.
Speaker 1: He getting his numbers quick. He ain't playing.
Speaker 2: He getting right to it.
Speaker 3: And then they don't have a drop off when they
Speaker 3: do substitute, you know, guys coming in off the bench.
Speaker 3: They still playing with that intensity and effort that it
Speaker 3: takes to be a championship team.
Speaker 2: I enjoy watching them, man, I enjoy.
Speaker 1: They They're not they're not by comping to you know,
Speaker 1: I like, you know, for me, I like the NBA
Speaker 1: is built on stars, Joe. You know that it's all
Speaker 1: It's always been about that. That's why everybody's trying to
Speaker 1: get one. Every it's been about Magic, it's been about Bird,
Speaker 1: it's been about George, it's been about Lebron, it's been
Speaker 1: about Stephen, about KD. The NBA has always it's been
Speaker 1: about doctor j R. That's dor Forster, Doctor j So
Speaker 1: it's not gonna change. It's not gonna change. That's why
Speaker 1: everybody tries to get one. Because they got one. The
Speaker 1: fans are gonna come to watch when you go on
Speaker 1: the road, fans are gonna want to see so Luca
Speaker 1: and Lebron and Steph and.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: But to watch them play collectively and to see how
Speaker 1: they do things, and to see, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: this business. We're gonna take care of business. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna rag each other. I can just imagine what those
Speaker 1: plane rides and those bus rides to the state. I
Speaker 1: can imagine what it's like because I believe they genuinely
Speaker 1: and sincerely like each other. But when they're on that court,
Speaker 1: they straight business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, and and and they make the game easier
Speaker 3: for each other, meaning like you can't keep them dudes
Speaker 3: in front of you. They're gonna always get in that paint.
Speaker 3: You know, we always talk about paint touches to where
Speaker 3: you make the game easy, where you can spray out
Speaker 3: for threes, where you can throw check lives, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, you get you get those guys involved
Speaker 3: like that. Man, it's just it's it's downhill after that
Speaker 3: from there. It's it's it's just exciting. It's a it's
Speaker 3: a it's an exciting brand of basketball to watch. And
Speaker 3: the pressure, the pressure that they that they bring on defense.
Speaker 3: See they defense, it initiates that offense. Itats the offense,
Speaker 3: meaning like they get so many easy baskets off just
Speaker 3: playing great defense and it's nothing, it's nothing other team
Speaker 3: can do. It's suffocating, man, it's suffocating. And the chemistry
Speaker 3: that they play with the conuity that they have is amazing, bro. Like,
Speaker 3: in't really I hadn't seen a lot of teams play
Speaker 3: like this, you know.
Speaker 5: I you to the words right out of my mouth.
Speaker 5: Being able to play on both ends of the courts.
Speaker 4: Because the boys so young, they got their leg that
Speaker 4: fourth quarter coming, they still got underneath them.
Speaker 1: You know the best part about it is is that
Speaker 1: they got a guy that ain't nobody to challenge Shay.
Speaker 1: Is that the thing that helped Michael Jordan is that
Speaker 1: Scotti people never challenged him, says I'm just as good.
Speaker 1: I should be the A side. Yeah, when you got
Speaker 1: that now it's rightfully so I understand Kobe. We saw
Speaker 1: what Kobe became, but it kind of ruugh it. Magic
Speaker 1: and Kareem Magic was really a I'm good, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay in my place, y'all do a a pat Riley
Speaker 1: golds to Magic. Magic used to call him pat Robby
Speaker 1: used to call Magic Johnson Buck Hey, buy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to score more.
Speaker 2: They say, hey, you talked to Korean about this. You
Speaker 2: didn't run that by careed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I talked to him saying good, okay, Yeah, imagine
Speaker 1: wins the MVP. So as long as long as it
Speaker 1: stays like that, you gotta have a Peckett or the joke.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a CEO, you gotta have a president,
Speaker 1: you gotta have a VP. Everybody has to play there.
Speaker 1: Everybody has to play then. Hey man, it's hard to
Speaker 1: put Denzel Samuel Jackson, Tom Hanks, and Tom Cruise in
Speaker 1: the same movie.
Speaker 2: How do you do that? O? Joe?
Speaker 5: Hey, it sounds it sounded like box office to me.
Speaker 2: Yes, side that boss who named being whose name first?
Speaker 5: What you just said?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington, and Samuel Jackson who name going for art?
Speaker 1: And just for good measures, I'm gonna throw Jack Nicholson
Speaker 1: in there when he was in there doing this thing?
Speaker 1: Who name going first? O?
Speaker 2: Joe?
Speaker 5: Hey, I don't.
Speaker 2: Exactly. That's tough. Did you hear Prince Prince said he
Speaker 2: was supposed to be in Uh? Would it beat it? When? Uh?
Speaker 2: When Michael Jackson Tall West's night your ass is mine?
Speaker 1: Say, well, who's saying that to who? Definitely not saying
Speaker 1: that to me, And I'm not gonna say that to him.
Speaker 1: So we not fit to do nothing together.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like Harlem Knights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my movie. Oh you're talking about when you
Speaker 1: had Eddie and Richard red Flox.
Speaker 2: We had a.
Speaker 5: Robert Robert.
Speaker 2: Donald Ray. Yeah, Charlie Murphy. What's Dela resee Dela Rese? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Hey, Richard Pryor.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when you when you are the same thing
Speaker 2: with life. You had Bernie Matt, you had Eddie Murphy,
Speaker 2: you had Martin Lars, you have hey, okay, he it
Speaker 2: may be it may be a picking order.
Speaker 3: Okay, see, but but all them guys are oozing with confidence,
Speaker 3: Like Jason Williams. Since since he's been back, they hadn't
Speaker 3: dropped off. He's been I think he's been pretty aggressive.
Speaker 3: You know, he's deserted himself to you know, let let
Speaker 3: people know that he's still that dude still here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, it's gonna be It's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be hard to beat them dudes, man, especially for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: SGA gave Chris Paul for the team's success in recent years.
Speaker 1: Chris was really the first person to show me what
Speaker 1: it meant to be a professional. He was always doing extra.
Speaker 1: It was more so off the court than on the court.
Speaker 1: It's the things that you don't think about as a kid.
Speaker 1: As a kid, you're taught to just work super hard,
Speaker 1: but you're really not taught nutrition, taking care of your body,
Speaker 1: getting massages, getting treatment, those type of things. He was
Speaker 1: always on top of. He's just had to get better.
Speaker 1: He just had to get better mentality in every way,
Speaker 1: in every way of life. See, that's what it takes.
Speaker 1: See that's what Casey needed. That's not what the Clippers need.
Speaker 1: You See, they got James Harden, he ain't no young guy.
Speaker 1: They got Kawhi he ain't no young guy. They got Zubos.
Speaker 1: He not no young guy. Chris Done, he ain't no
Speaker 1: young guy.
Speaker 2: You see, Joe, You see what you need?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, just because you get hired at the bank,
Speaker 1: that don't mean they need a teller. That don't mean
Speaker 1: they need a loan officer. Sometimes they just need somebody
Speaker 1: to work security, somebody. Sometimes they just need somebody to
Speaker 1: take out the trash. You need to understand what you're
Speaker 1: getting hired for. Just because you work at the bank,
Speaker 1: that don't make you the CEO. That don't make you
Speaker 1: the number one loan officers. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oo.
Speaker 5: But the hard the hard part, especially with people with
Speaker 5: ego and pride. Most of them don't know they roll.
Speaker 5: Everybody want to be the boss. Everybody want to be
Speaker 5: the head honcho. You you get, you get that job
Speaker 5: at the bank. Everybody want to be the CEO.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is no pecking order because people can't sit
Speaker 4: pride in her side. I think with the thunder done
Speaker 4: really well is everybody understands their role and it's it
Speaker 4: fits perfectly, and that's it.
Speaker 5: That's why they play so goddamn well.
Speaker 1: Somebody bring coffee. Somebody to bring a milk. Somebody bring
Speaker 1: the donuts, Somebody bring the breakfast sandwich. Who got the napkins?
Speaker 1: Who got who got the pay for? Who got who
Speaker 1: got the pay for? Who got the knives and tharts?
Speaker 1: Everybody got a job, everybody got a roll. And the
Speaker 1: way y'all look at it, and I think the way
Speaker 1: they see it, Joe, nobody roll is more important than
Speaker 1: the other. Yeah, you might be bringing the donuts and
Speaker 1: all I'm asked to do is brain silk plastic were all.
Speaker 1: I might be asked to bring napkins. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I might not be asked to bring anything because it's
Speaker 1: not my week. To the next week, I might have
Speaker 1: to bring coffee. I might need to bring juice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah you can. You can.
Speaker 2: You can tell that when you watch them play, when
Speaker 2: you watch okay you can't. They know.
Speaker 3: You know, Shad's the leader and those guys follow his lead. Man,
Speaker 3: it's it's uh, it's a beautiful thing to watch. But
Speaker 3: like I say, man, they never have a drop off though.
Speaker 3: It don't matter who's in the game. That's championship pedigree,
Speaker 3: championship basketball. And yes I do have them repeating, Yeah
Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough for somebody to beat them in
Speaker 3: seven games.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, that's the thing about football, Joe. You get one shot,
Speaker 1: tell you you have an off game, your ass going home, right,
Speaker 1: I just gotta be better than you that that day,
Speaker 1: that day, that day.
Speaker 2: And your ass going home.
Speaker 1: In basketball, somebody have an off day, just like what
Speaker 1: was that eighty five when the Celtics blew the Lakers out,
Speaker 1: they call them memorial They master beat them by like
Speaker 1: thirty forty.
Speaker 2: Everybody thought it was over Laker k right back wa wah.
Speaker 1: Before we move on to football, A lot of shows
Speaker 1: have responded to the podcast challenge, Oh your.
Speaker 2: The pivot eighty five South, how we like our chances?
Speaker 5: Got Hey?
Speaker 4: Man, listen all you hear right? If you listen to
Speaker 4: the people that re fonder, you listen to what they're saying.
Speaker 4: That's false confidence. Man, They not even talking with confidence. Ut, like,
Speaker 4: we really do this, We really do this, We really.
Speaker 5: Compete at the highest level, Joe. You competed at the
Speaker 5: highest level. You compete at the highest level. I compete
Speaker 5: at the highest level, and I talk that ship when
Speaker 5: I do it.
Speaker 4: Ain't nobody that responded today gonna beat us in nothing
Speaker 4: Nathaniel and I stand on that. I stamped that I'm
Speaker 4: talking about ten told and if I was prime eight todes,
Speaker 4: they're not doing nothing with us, man, with all due
Speaker 4: respect to them, If there's a if there's a way
Speaker 4: that we can make this happen, we talk about making history,
Speaker 4: you know, all us uniting, having fun of podcast Olympics
Speaker 4: or podcasty Cathalon, whatever it may be, and just doing
Speaker 4: something competitive. Man, that would be so fun. It's so dope, man,
Speaker 4: for for all parties involved, like one big as.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very uplifting instead of a you know, podcast
Speaker 1: taking shots at each other. And yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's do, So let's go some positivity. Everybody getting bread
Speaker 1: in this yesh? Yeah, yeah, we know something making more
Speaker 1: than others. But we all were all able to provide
Speaker 1: a very good life for our families. So you know what,
Speaker 1: let's do something positive. But hey, y'all don't know now
Speaker 1: they are nobody from a nightcap on that table tennis
Speaker 1: because Shannon.
Speaker 2: Leep ain't to be best with.
Speaker 5: Poo pool bowl.
Speaker 1: If y'all we call it it's pool, but you want
Speaker 1: to call it billiards, we call it whatever you want
Speaker 1: to get up, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: And it don't matter how many balls you want on
Speaker 5: the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, what you want to play eight ball? You
Speaker 1: wanna play nine ball, you want to play five? Yourself play,
Speaker 1: we play whatever you want to play. A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: just to make sure you know that it's real skill,
Speaker 1: We'll play Lambs pocket wherever the ball go in the
Speaker 1: last pocket to eight ball got to go in that
Speaker 1: pocket because I don't I don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 1: Everybody talking about man, I know he Pete Back. I
Speaker 1: heard you talking about you know how to play talk boy. Look, hey,
Speaker 1: peed Back, you must be happy. Hey, hey, guess what
Speaker 1: guess holds for the day of the pack Back Offee Show?
Speaker 1: Yours truly play? It'll be okay, it'll be oh Joe
Speaker 1: Joe holding the peed Back Show for a whole three
Speaker 1: hours over yes, be and YouTube.
Speaker 5: What else would be a good one?
Speaker 4: I just thought about with that paintball, paint ballinall three
Speaker 4: on three on three paintball.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to think.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to think of things that are competitive
Speaker 4: that would be fun, not just for us to do.
Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the masses is gonna be tuned.
Speaker 2: In whatever, whatever bowling. Somebody mentioned bowling whatever.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, if y'all need, y'all want
Speaker 1: to we throw y'all lass down the lane.
Speaker 2: How do y'all want to do it? Hey, we can
Speaker 2: do the frisbee. We can skip rocks across the wall whatever.
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, what you know about skipping rocks?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: You don't know nothing about skipping no rocks cross no water.
Speaker 2: If you're from the country, you know about skipping rocks
Speaker 2: over the lake.
Speaker 5: A dodgeball?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, man. Listen, Hey, it's a lot
Speaker 2: out there too. Boy.
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody feels every I mean everybody talking. I mean
Speaker 1: I really like the false bra bottle. Everybody will like
Speaker 1: I could do okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah sound good. Hey, then what I'm talking about
Speaker 3: right here? This that cool This some of the cool
Speaker 3: ship I'm talking about right here? He yeah, yeah, how
Speaker 3: whatever you want to do? Table like I said, table tennis? Whatever, Hey, marbles?
Speaker 3: We could play jacks when.
Speaker 1: You pick up yeah and pick up one jib, jacks,
Speaker 1: three jacks, four jack and wipe the ball.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 5: Remember y'all remember getting like me? Y'all might have called
Speaker 5: her something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get like me.
Speaker 1: We both got heads that let me get that. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: you closer to the wall, we can put it in
Speaker 1: the cup.
Speaker 5: However, what eighty five South said, they said, but they said.
Speaker 1: They get some Hey, first of all, d C if
Speaker 1: they probably go say in DC, loast in Chico free
Speaker 1: look here already though Loaf swear he can do something.
Speaker 2: But I know I know d C ain't.
Speaker 1: Ain't No ain't no athlete, No Chico ain't no athlete.
Speaker 1: No athletics does not run in that gene pool.
Speaker 2: Hey, we gotta make this happen.
Speaker 5: Man, that's gonna be dope.
Speaker 1: So whatever whatever, in the words of h Maxwell, wherever, whenever.
Speaker 2: I like it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Averberry reported that Kevin Stefanski likely wants out of Cleveland.
Speaker 1: The one thing that would be really frustrating for me
Speaker 1: if the coach in Cleveland you've been trying to make
Speaker 1: decisions for football reasons and no one will accept them.
Speaker 1: I can tell you, just knowing the number of people
Speaker 1: that I know worked there, that quarterback situation was handled
Speaker 1: this year, over the last six seven months, in a
Speaker 1: way that was based solely on how guys were performing
Speaker 1: in practice. It makes Stefanski look bad now because George
Speaker 1: played well, if you're Kevin and you're making all these
Speaker 1: decisions based on football decision, and you made a lot
Speaker 1: of other decisions over the years that were constantly second
Speaker 1: guess this way is constantly its circus. Well, you'd be
Speaker 1: sick of it. Has this become you know, this has
Speaker 1: to work now for either one of us in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. So maybe it's just time. He's
Speaker 1: six and twenty four, two fifty win percentage over the
Speaker 1: last two years. He's a two time coach of the Year.
Speaker 1: O Joe, what are you think.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's tough. I think Defanski is in a
Speaker 4: tough spot. Obviously we're six and twenty four. Having you know,
Speaker 4: on your resume being coach of the Year two times,
Speaker 4: I think that that saved you and gives you a
Speaker 4: little bit more grace. But obviously you know you can't
Speaker 4: operate without a quarterback. You can't operate without a quarterback.
Speaker 4: So understanding what we see from Schador so far and
Speaker 4: and the stuff and the actions that that occurred before
Speaker 4: he was put in position to be the starter, obviously
Speaker 4: you always want you want your best player out there
Speaker 4: playing quarterback for you. That gives you your best chance
Speaker 4: to win. And most of the time, I say it
Speaker 4: all the time. Uncle, you said all the time, players
Speaker 4: get coaches fired. Players get coaches fired. So for a coach,
Speaker 4: you would always want to be in a position to
Speaker 4: have players in there that can do right by you,
Speaker 4: that can do right, do right by you, not just you,
Speaker 4: but your team and team as well, and give yourself
Speaker 4: a chance and give you some grace and longevity as
Speaker 4: a coach. So I'm not sure why they're playing, why
Speaker 4: the games have been played in general in Cleveland. It's
Speaker 4: been a damn circus. It's been a goddamn circuit, Joe.
Speaker 4: So it just in just some of the some of
Speaker 4: the play called.
Speaker 5: I don't want to get into all that. We've all
Speaker 5: seen it. We've all heard it.
Speaker 4: You know something's right, and anyone that says it's not
Speaker 4: right based on all the evidence that we've seen since
Speaker 4: the draft up until this point, I mean, you just
Speaker 4: turned the blind eye to the bulls.
Speaker 1: What what if it's a situation, Oh, Joe, were Kevin
Speaker 1: Stefanski really wanted to place your door.
Speaker 2: And he was handcuffed?
Speaker 1: But hold on, you think that's post what it sounds
Speaker 1: like to me? I mean if we're to believe what
Speaker 1: average bread is being reported? How much how much say
Speaker 1: do we believe? How much say do we believe that
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefansk can have over the final the final fifty three?
Speaker 1: How much say does he have in the draft? How
Speaker 1: much say does he have in free agency? Does he
Speaker 1: have say like say Mike Tomlin, like Andy Reid, like
Speaker 1: a Sean McVay. He had a Mike Rabel. Do you
Speaker 1: think he has that kind of say, Oh, Joe.
Speaker 5: I would think so.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, two.
Speaker 5: Time Coach of the Year would have him say so
Speaker 5: and and and some of the personnel that he brings in.
Speaker 5: I would think so. And I told I told n
Speaker 5: the other night.
Speaker 4: Right with some of the things ever going on, I
Speaker 4: felt like, basically Kevin Stefanski was basically Nico Harris.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt he was.
Speaker 5: He's taking a fall for all for.
Speaker 4: The upper management above his pay grade that no owner
Speaker 4: came out and said, listen, this wasn't my pick. I
Speaker 4: didn't want you to do it. So I think he's
Speaker 4: taking the blunt and all the heat and in his
Speaker 4: hands are tied. So I mean, uncle, what you said,
Speaker 4: it might be a possibility. We had no control over it,
Speaker 4: and maybe he did want him to start the whole time.
Speaker 4: But you know there's a pecking order, like we just.
Speaker 2: Talked around, yea.
Speaker 5: Third round pick. Oh well, well he's the third round
Speaker 5: pick for a reason, so he's always going to be
Speaker 5: get first DIBs no matter what.
Speaker 2: And you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not normally taking quarterbacks a third and because you're
Speaker 1: asking for trouble. The last time we saw somebody take
Speaker 1: a quarterback because look, go back and look at Washington.
Speaker 1: Mike didn't want to take a quarterback, didn't want to
Speaker 1: trade that pick. He felt they could sit right there
Speaker 1: where they were and get the quarterback that they wanted.
Speaker 1: He really liked cousins. He felt he could get cousins
Speaker 1: where they got cousins and could be fine. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: in snary cap hell, because remember that was the year
Speaker 1: that the uncapped year, and everybody dumped all their money
Speaker 1: in that Dallas and Washington had to pay all that
Speaker 1: salary cap money because they had dumped all that in
Speaker 1: a non cap year, and the NFL said, now you.
Speaker 2: Couldn't do that. You're cheating.
Speaker 1: So they take a quarterback at number two, and then
Speaker 1: they turn right around and take cousins.
Speaker 2: How did you think this was gonna work out?
Speaker 5: On Joe?
Speaker 1: You take a quarterback in the third round, and then
Speaker 1: you take another quarterback in the fifth round. How did
Speaker 1: you think this is gonna work out?
Speaker 5: I think maybe maybe, maybe. Security. That's the only thing
Speaker 5: I can think of. Security asking for trouble, understanding that
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco is gonna only give only give you so
Speaker 5: much time left at his age. You know, Okay, we
Speaker 5: got you. What are we sure? Dylan Gabriel is the answer.
Speaker 5: You know what, We're not sure. So we're gonna take
Speaker 5: another one while.
Speaker 2: You take it.
Speaker 1: Who goes into the normally, that's not how you suppoke.
Speaker 1: That's not how you draft Joe. You don't draft a
Speaker 1: guy and say, well, he might not be it if
Speaker 1: you think he might not be it while you drafted.
Speaker 5: That's good question.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm not going to the store. Who
Speaker 2: you buy the car?
Speaker 1: Man, This car might put me down, So but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead buy it anyway? Yeah, go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 3: But but when we think about it, statistically, from training
Speaker 3: camp to preseason, should do his head the best statistics
Speaker 3: from what we've seen, Yes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So it's like to me, it almost kind of feels
Speaker 3: like perfect time. Like you say, Gabril went Dylan, Gabral
Speaker 3: went third, third round, and Shadu went filth. It's kind
Speaker 3: of a picking water. I'm kind of picking back what
Speaker 3: Ocho said. But I think Shadua has now took the
Speaker 3: rings and I don't think he's gonna give it back.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think the young man is he knows what's at State,
Speaker 3: he knows everybody's watching, and uh man, he just looked
Speaker 3: like a guy with a lot of confidence and poise
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 1: He looked great under center. And you think about it,
Speaker 1: O Joe. Look at the guys he was throwing to,
Speaker 1: all the guys that he was throwing to with the rookies.
Speaker 2: That came in with him. Yeah, so it's not an accident.
Speaker 2: Those are the most of the guys that he was
Speaker 2: getting the reps with. Right.
Speaker 1: It's just hard for me to see a scenario. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: like I said, some people say that didn't happen, But
Speaker 1: I've never been on a team where the backup didn't
Speaker 1: get something, didn't get at least two reps a period.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Always, I mean we had veterans.
Speaker 1: We had a veteran quarterback in Trent Dilferd who backed
Speaker 1: up Tony Banks and he still got two reps period.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We had a veteran ran Randall Cunningham, who back backed
Speaker 1: up Elvis' girl back and he still got two reps
Speaker 1: period A three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I play with Yeah, Hey, what was that in
Speaker 2: two thousand and one in Baltimore?
Speaker 5: Is dope?
Speaker 2: I ain't know rand I was there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I ain't there.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, it's dope.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: So so this notion that you wouldn't give a rookie
Speaker 1: that had the potential to go in the game any
Speaker 1: reps when veterans that have been starters, had been to
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls was getting reps. It's just it was just
Speaker 1: unconfortable to me that people thought that was okay. That's
Speaker 1: what I couldn't That's what I couldn't understand. Look, if
Speaker 1: y'all don't understand, I know, I don't know. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on out here.
Speaker 2: Look, we know.
Speaker 1: Every coach, every general manager has they gut in the
Speaker 1: media when they want to get certain things out.
Speaker 5: Joe, Yeah, they know how to get it out.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is the case. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: I know that to be factual. So when I want
Speaker 1: to get something out, I know who to get it to,
Speaker 1: sources in the NFL. No, your source with the team
Speaker 1: told you that NFL. Your source with the team told
Speaker 1: you that.
Speaker 2: I know how it works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like me to me, I just like
Speaker 1: to to I just talk because I don't like to
Speaker 1: get information. I don't because I be I be using
Speaker 1: it and they're gonna Yeah, the person that I'm talking
Speaker 1: about go, No.
Speaker 2: I got that from a very very reputable person. So
Speaker 2: I just listen.
Speaker 1: I just let stuff go. I just like you, hey,
Speaker 1: from my from my personal experience and how stuff go.
Speaker 1: But y'all best believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I mean he's a two time Coach of
Speaker 2: the Year.
Speaker 3: O Joe.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It looks the Baker situation how that worked out. But
Speaker 1: your door, how that's playing out.
Speaker 2: Who knows. Maybe maybe they maybe they want a high
Speaker 2: draft pick. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Uh, Mendoza, I believe Mendoza is gonna win the Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy on Saturday.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's just like and he Ojo, he might turn around
Speaker 2: and he might be.
Speaker 1: Who knows great, historically great, But as I look at
Speaker 1: him and look at your door, I mean, if your
Speaker 1: door had that kind of offensive line protection when he
Speaker 1: was in college, are we are?
Speaker 2: We sure?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I don't know if the FANSK you want out.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a situation where they probably want him out.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd be unemployed long. I mean, he
Speaker 1: is a two time Coach of the Year. Ohoe, he
Speaker 1: is fairly young. But we'll look, there's gonna be some openings.
Speaker 1: What well, first of all, we already know there's gonna
Speaker 1: be two openings in Tennessee and the Giants, and the
Speaker 1: likelihood there might be more.
Speaker 2: Who knows, it might be one in Las Vegas. Damn
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 5: Ye and Pete just got there, huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just be leaving too.
Speaker 1: But hey, the thing is, and the NFL, if you
Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago they sent that membo out. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta stop hired and fire because think about it,
Speaker 1: the John Gruden thing, he got ap on the contract,
Speaker 1: he still got to pay that. Now you got Pete,
Speaker 1: So you got three guys that ain't coaching for you
Speaker 1: that you paying. And then if you bring another coach
Speaker 1: in you gotta pay him.
Speaker 5: That's for and staff, that's in patience and patience.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be very interesting to see how this
Speaker 1: thing plays out, Ojo. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know what's in that division. Joe burrows in that
Speaker 1: division when he's healthy, he's unbelievable. The thing is is
Speaker 1: that he does he's not healthy.
Speaker 2: All the time.
Speaker 1: Lamar is in that division. I just Lamar is hurt
Speaker 1: and he's missing throws and he's not like that. He's
Speaker 1: not running like he once did, Ojo, because I think
Speaker 1: he's afraid he's gonna hurt that hamstring again and so
Speaker 1: he look, Lamar is missing throws that Lamar hadn't missed
Speaker 1: since his rookie year.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in order for you to be in that division,
Speaker 1: your quarterback's gotta play well. You got Aaron Rodgers. Now
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's gonna come back, you know,
Speaker 1: be at forty two and coming back. I don't know, uh,
Speaker 1: but you gotta you got you gotta have a quarterback
Speaker 1: in that division, just like the a f C, the
Speaker 1: a f C West, you gotta have a quarterback ALC
Speaker 1: South quarterback, you got Stroud, you got Lawrence, and they
Speaker 1: had competent quarterback play, and and and and ended for
Speaker 1: a while until he got hurt. And now it seemed
Speaker 1: like he's going to hell in the half basket. They
Speaker 1: brought a granddad out of retirement. So it's gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna be very, very interesting to see how this thing
Speaker 1: plays out in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: They y'all think they're gonna sign Philip River. They already
Speaker 2: signed it. Oh did it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The question is is he gonna start? That's the question.
Speaker 1: Ain't the question if they're gonna sign it?
Speaker 2: He gonna? Is he gonna start?
Speaker 1: I'm saying who else they got they can play in
Speaker 1: front him? They got Riley Leonard, but he got a
Speaker 1: banged up knee.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's starting, He's starting. He started. Listen, he Joe.
Speaker 5: I mean that there's a relationship and understanding of scheme
Speaker 5: and tactics between Shane Stiching and Philip Rivers. So the system,
Speaker 5: he's very familiar with it.
Speaker 4: And because he's so familiar with the system, all it
Speaker 4: is now and is getting as much timing and chemistry
Speaker 4: as you can, you know, with the offense and with
Speaker 4: the players right now.
Speaker 5: But he's gonna start Sunday.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry out for what he does is he's giving
Speaker 4: and hoping and giving that team a chance to keep
Speaker 4: their head above water because they still have a chance
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs and they're just trying to see this.
Speaker 4: We're gonna kick, We're gonna kick these tires and see
Speaker 4: what Philip Rivers can do for us, you know, for
Speaker 4: the rest of the season, to see if we can
Speaker 4: make a run, make a run at the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And they got to in there.
Speaker 1: They gotta stay high because they gave their two first
Speaker 1: round picks. Hey, they give them two first round picks.
Speaker 1: And the further you fall down in the standing, the
Speaker 1: how those picks are. So guess what next year if
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones doesn't come back healthy until because he was
Speaker 1: dealing with a broken leg, and now you've got to
Speaker 1: tourn a Key leave so he's got to heal two injuries.
Speaker 1: Now you mess around it, Now you mess around to
Speaker 1: be like the nd of old. Yeah, well, just just
Speaker 1: gonna get a top five pick. Yeah, might have two
Speaker 1: top five picks, because they gonna look like they might
Speaker 1: be some slow because they're looking for a quarterback too.
Speaker 5: Now you're right back at square one, Hey, them.
Speaker 3: Injury is gonna take a while to hear. Man, you
Speaker 3: ain't gonna be the rest Dames Jones back with them
Speaker 3: two injuries right there, and.
Speaker 1: That was the only reason. That was the only reason
Speaker 1: they was playing with that broken I think it was
Speaker 1: tibby or the board leg tip fibular fibular.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason playing o Jo and Jones because
Speaker 1: they were in prime position to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That means the pick's gonna probably be way on down there,
Speaker 1: twenty four, somewhere between twenty.
Speaker 2: Four and thirty two. You can live with that.
Speaker 1: I ain't really try to get no top ten no,
Speaker 1: you know, team pick, no no early team, no top
Speaker 1: ten pick. I ain't really try to do that for you,
Speaker 1: bro right, because they went all in. When you make
Speaker 1: that trade for sauce Gardener, you're basically saying, I'm all in.
Speaker 1: I'm jumping on this thing with both feet. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: long Song's gonna be on.
Speaker 2: He nicked?
Speaker 1: I mean they got a calf injury. I ain't no telling.
Speaker 1: And then plus Daniel Jones, it don't matter what Song's doing.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a quarterback. Yeah, hell, he can't throw
Speaker 1: them all.
Speaker 5: And he might be forty four, but that that's all
Speaker 5: you got.
Speaker 2: That's it hard for me to believe. It's hard for
Speaker 2: me to believe that you couldn't go.
Speaker 1: You couldn't you couldn't scour thirty one other teams practice
Speaker 1: squad and say, hey, bro, this is an opportunity for
Speaker 1: you to start.
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I mean they reached out to Sam Ellinger, who's on
Speaker 1: the Broncos practice squad. He said, no, I'm good. He said,
Speaker 1: all y'all gonna do is get me over there and
Speaker 1: then at the end of the season, y'all gonna cut me.
Speaker 1: Let me stay right there where I am. I know
Speaker 1: the system.
Speaker 2: I'm cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and hold on, I got one for a better.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 4: Other teams with thirty one other backups, how many of
Speaker 4: those thirty one of the backups are better than Philip
Speaker 4: Rivers even right now at forty four.
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna find out on Sunday, right, And so
Speaker 1: I want you to wear your ass over your Sunday.
Speaker 2: All right, because you listen, you know this.
Speaker 1: Your fighting senses, even in the off season, from the
Speaker 1: time that you from the time your last game until
Speaker 1: the time you come back, your fighting senses have to heighten,
Speaker 1: they have to get back in the lignment. They don't
Speaker 1: tingle like they once did. Can you imagine, Ojo, can
Speaker 1: you imagine, Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Ojoe,
Speaker 1: you thirty, you don't play the game for five years,
Speaker 1: and they say, you know what, Oyo, come on back
Speaker 1: out and you come back out there at thirty five.
Speaker 2: Boy, you're gonna be running through mans. Don't read. They
Speaker 2: gonna be tearing your ass up.
Speaker 5: You're gonna be Yeah. I think if anything he might
Speaker 5: be just be a beat off. That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it ain't nothing changed, o joy. It's not like
Speaker 1: he was running. It's not like he was Michael Vick
Speaker 1: before he left. Absolutely he was stationed. He had cement
Speaker 1: shoes on when he was twenty five. Lead, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be handing that thing on.
Speaker 2: Ya. When did you see? What they did? Is that
Speaker 2: because they know Daniel Jones can't run like he was dead.
Speaker 1: They stacked the line. They said, no, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: let We're not gonna let, y'all. J T beats beat
Speaker 1: us throwing the ball. So they took that away from him.
Speaker 2: Oh, y'all.
Speaker 1: The Eagle's positivity rabbit makes a quick exit. Bill Jeff
Speaker 1: mcclaims the Philadelphia inquired the inflatable rabbit that was installed
Speaker 1: last week to bring good vibes to the Eagle locker.
Speaker 2: Room has been removed.
Speaker 1: He already charges in the first and only game played
Speaker 1: with the rabbit in the house. Joe, you ever do
Speaker 1: something like this in the locker room to help you
Speaker 1: break a losing streak?
Speaker 3: Now, not that I could think not that I can
Speaker 3: think of, but you got to get that up out
Speaker 3: of there. Boy, Hey, that was that was a lost
Speaker 3: You gotta go, bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they gonna they gonna blame it on the rabbit.
Speaker 2: They blame it on a rabbit. Yeah, yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: blame somebody. I mean, hey, oh, Joe, what do you
Speaker 2: care for? Good luck?
Speaker 1: A rabbit's foot. They got a whole big ass rabbit
Speaker 1: in there. They ain't making no look, you got to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my brother we went to the fair. Uh.
Speaker 2: If my brother run a rabbit's foot, you don't used
Speaker 2: to have rabbit foot key change, Joe? You remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if my brother wought a rabbit foot, run a
Speaker 1: rabbit foot key change. If my grandpa took it and
Speaker 1: put the house keys on there. I like, I don't
Speaker 1: know why we got a house. Ain't nobody gonna bring
Speaker 1: it in, rabbit, I mean, ain't nobody gonna bring it here?
Speaker 1: Trust me, What time the Robbie did break in the house,
Speaker 1: we robbed him. Get your cast up out of the here.
Speaker 2: But I mean, they didn't even get a thing of
Speaker 2: chance though.
Speaker 3: God, I mean one week now, when you lose like that,
Speaker 3: don't tell y'all know, hey, some guys to go.
Speaker 5: Hey, same same thing, same thing with the raven.
Speaker 4: See, they took all them TV, took TVs out, ping
Speaker 4: pong machine, popper shot.
Speaker 1: They better put them back in there because they had
Speaker 1: been losing everything. There was a couple of games. They
Speaker 1: been losing every since. Put them back in there. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, brain for new ones, y'all, keep
Speaker 1: them all was out for brain for new ones.
Speaker 5: That stuff ain't got nothing to do with nothing.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Look here, man, we had a situation where I think
Speaker 1: we lost. This was ninety four, ninety four. I think
Speaker 1: we started the season ZH and four man, Joe, oh, Joe.
Speaker 1: We come to work Wednesday. Everybody got a got a
Speaker 1: piece of rope by this lord hanging in the locker.
Speaker 1: Just hold on to the rope. Guys, it's gonna get better.
Speaker 3: When you're getting bashed, you gotta find a way to
Speaker 3: shake things up. Man, you gotta find shake things up
Speaker 3: trying to get back on the track. That's the hardest part. Boy,
Speaker 3: you're going to lose the streak. It seems like if
Speaker 3: you can't get off it, you can't. It's the same
Speaker 3: thing with a winning streak. You seem like when you
Speaker 3: go on the winning street, you can't lose.
Speaker 2: You fight. When you kick a field you kick a
Speaker 2: walk off field.
Speaker 1: Goal, you block a field goal, you do something a
Speaker 1: pass interfire is called to keep a drive alive. Now
Speaker 1: you're able to run out the clock or Joe gets something.
Speaker 1: But when you lose, you're like, damn.
Speaker 5: And it's funny too, hey, uncle Joe. When you're winning,
Speaker 5: for some reason, luckers always on your side, because, yeah,
Speaker 5: to win consistently, you need a little bit of luck.
Speaker 4: Obviously, preparation is one thing. But for some reason, everything
Speaker 4: always seemed to go right. The ball always bounces your
Speaker 4: favor or the ball always bounce your weight.
Speaker 5: But when you're losing, you.
Speaker 2: Don't want you don't want to talk nobody now what
Speaker 2: we're talking about. Man, I know that feeling. I promise you. Boy.
Speaker 3: When I first got here Atlanta, Ojo, start it off
Speaker 3: in two thousand and five, when I first got here Atlantah,
Speaker 3: we're bad man. We started off three and twenty eight,
Speaker 3: Damn Joe. But we start off three and twenty eight.
Speaker 5: And y'all could have used me back then.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 3: Wait listen, okay, Ojo. I wasn't even eating. I'm coming home,
Speaker 3: going right to sleep. I don't want to hang out.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do nothing. I can't even enjoy myself.
Speaker 1: When you lose it like that, you get yourself, you
Speaker 1: go happen, Joe, somebody see y'all that's why you lose it.
Speaker 2: You need to have your ass playbook. Damn bro, I
Speaker 2: can't get no food. I got right hey, I mean
Speaker 2: black guy here, it's hard man. Yeah, you know the
Speaker 2: feeling and don't go to no club. Oh man.
Speaker 1: Man, if you lose, can you imagine not because it
Speaker 1: ain't like it is now. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if maybe they still do it. Maybe they still you
Speaker 1: know guy, they still guy at the club, and they's like,
Speaker 1: that's why y'all lose. You're asking the club all the time.
Speaker 1: But and probably now, if you're at the club, they
Speaker 1: probably put that thing on social media.
Speaker 2: Joe. I mean, now you've got social media, you got
Speaker 2: platform where people see you out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, take a picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the world's small. Or now you can't do nothing. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about nothing. Somebody always watching. You're right, somebody's
Speaker 3: always watching.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 2: Hey man, let me tell you what happened to me today. Joe.
Speaker 2: Oh yo. I started to film this Lika Joan, you're
Speaker 2: Jordan back there laughing.
Speaker 1: So I go down shell and order me an uber.
Speaker 1: I go down the guys. The guys like miss Davis.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's me. I go get in
Speaker 1: the uber. Were about fifteen minutes here. Jordan called, hey, boss,
Speaker 1: you got the wrong car. I said, nah, he's saying
Speaker 1: miss Davis. A minute later, dispatch call, he's speaker, you
Speaker 1: picked up the wrong you picked up the wrong you
Speaker 1: picked up the wrong passage. Uh, such and such. I
Speaker 1: was like, he's saying Miss Davis. No, there was another
Speaker 1: Miss Davis. There was two Miss Davis.
Speaker 2: Wow, oh, Joe. If I didn't move for a pull
Speaker 2: side of the road and put me right out on
Speaker 2: Santa Monica, Man, get out of him? What of God?
Speaker 5: And you got out?
Speaker 2: I ain't got no choice. But why adn't take you
Speaker 2: back to the hotewn?
Speaker 1: Man? I was I was close to where I was,
Speaker 1: closer to where I needed to be. Then driving me
Speaker 1: all the way back to the hotel.
Speaker 5: Oh so you walked when you had to go?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 2: Shall they called me another uber? Wow?
Speaker 5: Hey, he would have had to drop me off. Man,
Speaker 5: you got me? You got me messed up?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 1: Man, they got they got recorded in there. And plus
Speaker 1: I'm on probation right now, so I had to be
Speaker 1: on my best day. Okay, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 5: I got you.
Speaker 1: Because I was by Apple. I said, man, just just
Speaker 1: drop me mouth right here. He's like, I can't take
Speaker 1: He said, I can't take you no further. I was like,
Speaker 1: bro we I looked at the GPS. Oh Joe, We're like,
Speaker 1: it's gonna take him twenty minutes to get back to
Speaker 1: the hotel. It's gonna take himself minutes to drop me off.
Speaker 1: I say, just tell her to get get into the
Speaker 1: the uber that was for me. She didn't want to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 5: Oh so she Oh she one of them? Okay, Mmm, so.
Speaker 2: Man, pull inside the roll. Hey, hey, you really ain't
Speaker 2: got no answer on your phone, do you? I don't know, no, no,
Speaker 2: Shelley or Jordan.
Speaker 1: Like Jordan, Jordan having Jordan having a time, and he
Speaker 1: knows like after a certain time were about to wrap up,
Speaker 1: he'll call the uber. They give us fifteen minutes to
Speaker 1: get you know, get out there. And so once we
Speaker 1: take the picture. I many things, but I don't I don't. Oh,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what. Uh look at Jordan laughing.
Speaker 1: He's just laughing.
Speaker 2: So you know in room dining thing, they don't let
Speaker 2: you call down it or the room service no more.
Speaker 1: You got the skin is r QR cold with Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you know, hey, I said, man, oh you see,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do nothing.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't book me a two nights stare at
Speaker 2: the hotel. That was Jordan lambing. Shelly called me, say.
Speaker 1: Why you booked two nights at the hotel? I said,
Speaker 1: heinyt book no two nights at the hotel. I ordered breakfast.
Speaker 1: She say, you ain't order no damn breakfast. You got
Speaker 1: to you got a king sweep for two nights next week? Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I thought, I ordered me an egg sad but just
Speaker 1: some orange juice.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: Now you see why I don't be fooling with the maps, Ojoe,
Speaker 1: because all my money I've been up sping. I'll beat
Speaker 1: up spent two hundred five dollars on a flower arrangement.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't fool with it.
Speaker 5: You gotta be a little text savvage. Man, We got
Speaker 5: to send you to a class man.
Speaker 1: No, that's what Jordan are. Fore Jordan went the class Okay, Man.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, this yo put oh Joe, this
Speaker 2: Joe gonna put me out. This Joe pull right to
Speaker 2: the side, I said, Man, oh Joe. He stopped in
Speaker 2: the middle of the road. I said, well, Man, can't
Speaker 2: you pull like right over to the side.
Speaker 5: Man, Damn, that's that's not done. I know because the
Speaker 5: uncle I know won't get down no car.
Speaker 2: Hey, he ain't got south. He ain't got south in Joe,
Speaker 2: Joe got they got your boy, now you know a.
Speaker 1: Yeah he he You know, if I wasn't no profacion
Speaker 1: on yoke, I'm trying to make it twenty six. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make it in twenty six with no mishaps.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can't let people just take advantage.
Speaker 2: Of you like that outside, I get on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey the devil work. Yeah, he tried to get it.
Speaker 1: Remember, oh, Joe, I said, patience? What I said, patience?
Speaker 1: I need patience. He ain't gonna give it to you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna put you in a situation that required hello.
Speaker 5: Hello, are you talking talking now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna get out there,
Speaker 1: but you show Lucky caught me in twenty four.
Speaker 2: I got out.
Speaker 1: But now after I told your answer, man, I said, man,
Speaker 1: I have I had a day to day with your ie,
Speaker 1: got put out of uber and out of order to
Speaker 1: night and all I tried to get was a break
Speaker 1: who sandwich is some orange juice?
Speaker 2: And I got a two nice day at the hotel. Hey,
Speaker 2: did they charge you for canceling you too? Nice day? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Cause I booked it for next week.
Speaker 5: Then they need that cancelation fee. They need that.
Speaker 1: They ain't getting no cancelation fee as many nice as
Speaker 1: I stay here and Jordan's I stay here. Man, we
Speaker 1: sometimes we were staying here like four five nights in
Speaker 1: the row. Okay, nah, but uh, I said, boy, I
Speaker 1: had me a day today.
Speaker 2: I said, damn