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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley, brought to

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Alright, let's live on a first Friday Miracle edition of

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Speaker 2: the program, merely Bo the Great Z. You know, with

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Speaker 2: opportunity comes responsibility, and we had talked about this's insuring.

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Speaker 2: We did defensive tackles yesterday on the show, and we

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Speaker 2: said in various different ways, the ice couldn't be more

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Speaker 2: thin for Perry on Winfrey. And then well, I said,

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Speaker 2: give me the exact quote. I know you have pretty sure.

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Speaker 3: I said, he's a ninety nine percent roster luck, with

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Speaker 3: the one percent being he can't get out of his

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Speaker 3: own way. And something big happens. And within twenty four

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Speaker 3: hours of that statement being made, the one percent happened.

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Speaker 3: And maybe I was being silly or naive in my

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Speaker 3: one percent stance on that, but he's done it and

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Speaker 3: he has been released. And look, when you're the Senior

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Speaker 3: Bowl MVP, as he was, and you go in the

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Speaker 3: fourth round, when you have the tape that he does,

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Speaker 3: and the athleticism and skills that he does. It's because

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Speaker 3: there were concerns about your ability to capitalize on your talent.

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Speaker 3: And now I hope for perry On because I actually

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Speaker 3: very much liked him when I chanced to talk to him.

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Speaker 3: That these mistakes and whatever appeared to have happened there

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Speaker 3: seems bad. And I am happy that the Browns acted quickly.

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Speaker 3: This is a season about results, This is a season

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Speaker 3: about business. You cannot have distractions. And in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: the one way that it is very much a meritocracy

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Speaker 3: is that when you are not worth the hassle, you

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Speaker 3: will be gone.

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Speaker 2: People who are worth the hassle.

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Speaker 3: You can you can, you can stay around, but if

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Speaker 3: you're not, you will be gone. And I think for

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Speaker 3: the Browns, you know, that was a room where we

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Speaker 3: said there was one proven commodity, perry On Winfrey wasn't

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Speaker 3: that proven commodity. So that doesn't change. There remains one

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Speaker 3: proven commodity in that room, in Dalvin Tomlinson. And I

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Speaker 3: do think it becomes more aggressive and imperative now that

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Speaker 3: you do look at you know, one of those veteran

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Speaker 3: good ones. Now there's Donatow, Sue matt Ianidis. I think

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Speaker 3: Aidis would be a great fit here, a Keem Hicks,

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Speaker 3: Michael Brockers, Shelby, Harris Linvall, Joseph Chris Wormley. So there

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Speaker 3: are lots of options for the Browns at that defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle position. It would not surprise me at all if

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Speaker 3: they do make a move move at this point to

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Speaker 3: I think I still my sense of indominkan Sue is

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Speaker 3: that in Dominican, who's gonna be in in season ad

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Speaker 3: for somebody?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless not going to camp.

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Speaker 3: Offered something outrageous.

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Speaker 2: Which he won't, and so he's not going to camp.

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Speaker 2: He'll show up like if if if it was here

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Speaker 3: Even in November to play the final ten games.

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Speaker 2: Or that's true November. You still have more than he has.

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Speaker 2: An idea of who's who's got a shot? Yeah, who's

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Speaker 3: I and Itis I think would be a great fit.

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Speaker 3: He can rush the passer, and I think that's really

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Speaker 3: what we're looking for out of that something that you've

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Speaker 3: Tristan Hill as well. But I think that I and

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Speaker 3: Idis would fit kind of you're talking about putting a

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Speaker 3: think he would be a tremendous sub package pass rusher

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Speaker 2: Yeah, used to do a show with James Lorenidis and

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Speaker 2: could say last chance and Latin and then it just

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Speaker 2: you cannot get right and right now, that's what Perryon

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Speaker 2: Winfrey is. He's a can't get right guy. He was.

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Speaker 2: It's it's so amazing that you cannot understand to your point,

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Speaker 2: was punished here like this has been well known and documented. Right,

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Speaker 2: that was all there that Like it's enough, man, Like

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Speaker 2: the talent is such. But you always talk about this

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Speaker 2: and this goes for did I just lose my good

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Speaker 2: I think I hear you. I lost it in mind.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. Anyway, I'll keep talking.

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing you.

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Speaker 2: All right, we talk about this all this is in sports,

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Speaker 2: this is in business life anything. There are pare there's

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Speaker 2: a parallel line that's running out. One is your value.

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Speaker 2: The other way is your pain in the neck. And

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Speaker 2: pain in the neck can be defined in any number

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Speaker 2: of ways, but one of them is certainly certainly behaviorally.

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Speaker 2: When the pain in the neck jumps past, when the

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Speaker 2: pain in the neck jumps past the talent.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: There's a video of a documentary coming out Netflix about

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Speaker 2: John Football and one of the things that's talked about

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Speaker 2: there is is exactly that they've got to a point

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Speaker 2: and it did, and then that was it, and that's

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Speaker 2: have to have more guys in that room. They'll have

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Speaker 2: So I think you need more bodies.

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Speaker 3: I think, like I said, now we're back to you

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Speaker 3: the competition. I think what you'd like to do is

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Speaker 3: somebody that the Browns look at because you I do

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Speaker 3: a team where oh, we can work out, you know

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Speaker 3: the growing pains your Bengals at home Week one, Monday

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Speaker 3: there's no oh, man, we can figure this out. You

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Speaker 3: Our schedule is really hard if you think about it.

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Speaker 3: then you get the forty nine Ers here. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we we were taking a look at like

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Speaker 2: to fight back if you dig a hole, Yes, but

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Speaker 2: those first four games, that's a three and one situation,

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Speaker 2: I hate it. And then the schedule evens out in

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Speaker 3: But it's tough.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna beat tougher than the way you're opening.

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Speaker 2: has nothing to do with what happened to perry On

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Speaker 2: or the timing of it or anything, but that it is.

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Speaker 2: It is go time. It is time for this roster

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Speaker 2: to go. That's abundantly clear. And everything that's being done

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Speaker 2: regardless of this of the perryon news today. Everybody understands

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Speaker 2: that it's all there. Everybody gets it. Everybody gets it.

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Speaker 3: I had a chance see a bunch of the coaches

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Speaker 3: and yeah, it's kind of let's go. We know we've

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Speaker 3: need to refine everything so that we're ready to roll

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Speaker 3: because this team isn't going to be judged by, oh,

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Speaker 3: we look pretty good in training camp. I do think

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Speaker 3: those joint practices in Philly will be the one yeaoint

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Speaker 3: I think that will be the one where you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: an elite organization, elite roster. But other than that, like

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Speaker 3: you're not going to know anything. Really, you have that

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Speaker 3: you've got a team that can contend, and now we've

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Speaker 3: The first six years. Yeah, I just in nineteen fifty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, very good, Corey.

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Speaker 3: I like the brown on it much more now that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it does work. I think it

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Speaker 2: We had ours early in the week. We had the

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Speaker 3: They're gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: They're gorgeous, and.

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Speaker 3: They got the helmet right. The vik they did the helmet.

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Speaker 2: So that was I think that was the only thing

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Speaker 2: Oh. Remember they teased that one. That thing was gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: I want you to.

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Speaker 2: Don't have a problem with that in the kind of

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Speaker 2: Nike ran amuck with those.

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Speaker 3: The great stars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you're onto something, you know,

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Speaker 2: there too, they are those are I don't. I didn't

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Speaker 3: Part of it, you know what you know? I see

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Speaker 2: other thing that is specific about that era that all

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Speaker 2: changed in the late nineties into the early two thousands,

436
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Speaker 2: and that is the uniformity that came in uniforms. What

437
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean by that is you could be one hundred

438
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 2: different shades of blue in the eighties. Then the uniform

439
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 2: manufacturers are like, actually, you can pick one navy it's

440
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: this one. You can pick one blue, it's this one.

441
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 2: You can pick one royal blue, one light blue. Like

442
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: we're not making sixty five different shades of light blue.

443
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Speaker 2: Like for example, the best example I can think of

444
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Speaker 2: this and this is I'll get to this as a

445
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,239
Speaker 2: second with the oilers throwbacks. That light blue is a

446
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 2: different shade of blue than Carolina blue, which is a

447
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: different shade of blue than Ucla blue, which is a

448
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: different shade of blue than Columbia blue, which is a

449
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: different shade of blue than any all the other light

450
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Speaker 2: blues that are in that world. It was a specific.

451
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: Now they don't do that. Now if you want to

452
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 2: wear light blue, it's the same color. Tennessee has that

453
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Speaker 2: light blue they wear. Everyone wears that light blue. There's

454
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Speaker 2: not sixty varieties of it because of manufacturers like that

455
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 2: always insanity. We can't have a thousand different reds, a

456
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 2: thousand different blues. You get it picked from these reds

457
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Speaker 2: and these blues. And the best example of this is Michigan.

458
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Speaker 2: When Michigan went from Nike to Adidas, and all of

459
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: a sudden, Michigan's pants were like neon yellow because Nike

460
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: owned that color of yellow, that specific yellow color. So

461
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 2: until they went back to Nike Maze, that maze, they

462
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: were stuck in the wrong damn color. Like the Lion's

463
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: blue is a different shade. Now, there's so much uniformity

464
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 2: that you you don't have it.

465
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Speaker 3: And that's why I think sometimes when you have somebody

466
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Speaker 3: who steps out into a cream sickle, or you get

467
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Speaker 3: that blue of the Seahawks with the gray, it looks

468
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 3: so good. I'm trying to look when the Seahawks change.

469
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Speaker 3: And I had it really twice when I was a kid. Yeah,

470
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Speaker 3: the hasse Back ones were terrible.

471
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Speaker 2: The Hasselback ones which are today left.

472
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Speaker 3: The great ones for the Hassebacks and for off right.

473
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Speaker 3: And then they got this right.

474
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Speaker 2: And the first team that did like the brand new

475
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Speaker 2: uniform was actually Denver. Denver was the first team that

476
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Speaker 2: did like the Nike fied uniform. And they got rid

477
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Speaker 2: of the light blue hats for the for the dark

478
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: blue hats and the piping and they've been with them

479
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Speaker 2: ever since. That was like ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: So Seattle two thousand and two they switched to the Hasslebacks. Okay,

481
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 3: two thousand and one was the last year they wore

482
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Speaker 3: these buttes, and I remembered I obviously think of them

483
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: as Niners rivalries because that's a rich but they were

484
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Speaker 3: AFC West Backs, so that's when they were with them.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's they were right these This was the only

486
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: division I saw on the NBC Provider. So it's Raiders, Raiders, Seahawks, Chiefs,

487
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Speaker 2: Broncos Chargers.

488
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that division.

489
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Speaker 2: So that that was That's all I saw in the

490
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: early window on the Sunday as a kid. Were those

491
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Speaker 2: I have one more thing I wanted to run by you.

492
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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, the kids. Yeah, yeah, fumbled a lot did

493
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Speaker 2: small hands, small hands, The smell like cabbage. Those are

494
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: so great. That might be the next thing I go

495
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: with NBC. Maybe go a little They will love it.

496
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: There is a lot of innuendo. It's overwhelming in nuendo.

497
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Speaker 3: Ninety eight percent of everything is innuendo.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Maybe, I don't know. We'll

499
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: have to see one last thing in the uniforms. So

500
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Speaker 2: we're going to get a Cults black uniform. It looks

501
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 2: like tomorrow like they're gonna do a black which they

502
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: don't even have black in their color scheme.

503
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Speaker 3: I think that's lame.

504
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: So they're gonna do that.

505
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Speaker 3: I want them to do the one that they wore

506
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: sometimes where they wear that blue helmet, a beautiful blue

507
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: with the two horseshoes on the beat.

508
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Speaker 2: It's very cool.

509
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 3: That should be in the mix.

510
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 2: Yes, it sounds like it's not sounds like it. All

511
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 2: the teas are black helmet too, So it looks like

512
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 2: to me like they're teasing. Black would look good together.

513
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: It will, but it's not one of their colors. It's

514
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: it's cheating. Black is cheating. To me, I'm fine with

515
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: because everything looks good with black. If you put almost

516
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: any NFL team in black, they're going to look great

517
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: because black looks great in a uniform. It does. It's

518
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: why the Raiders are the best uniforms in the NFL.

519
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: Can you explain to me, taking spiite out of it,

520
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: why the Tennessee Titans they're gonna do the oilers uniforms.

521
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: They teased it with oil dripping on the Titan Nobody like,

522
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: do people in Nashville want that? Other than that they're

523
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: cool uniforms.

524
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Speaker 3: I mean they didn't Eddie George wear them a few times,

525
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: Johnson one or.

526
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: Two years when they played in Memphis. But never in

527
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: Nashville did they wear the oilers when they went to.

528
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Speaker 3: Nashville people, it wouldn't mean a heck of a lot

529
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Speaker 3: to the people in Houston.

530
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Speaker 2: I don't get it other than spide I don't get

531
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: it because there's It's not like anyone in Nashville is like, man,

532
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: I died with Warren Moon and Drew Hill, and.

533
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 3: You probably don't even know. No point of review, no

534
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: point of reference. How would they Earl Campbell? Of course I.

535
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Speaker 2: Don't understand it. To me, it makes no sense. I

536
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: think it's a Spike store too, But I don't know

537
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: that their fans even Like if I was a Titans fan,

538
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: that'd be like if if the Ravens wore Browns uniforms.

539
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly right.

540
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine like a kid in Baltimore going like, oh,

541
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: I got to get me one of those? Right?

542
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 3: No way, no way you would have wanted Lamar James.

543
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: Why would I want it? Like if I'm a kid

544
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: going to a Ravens game, why would it be like, Man,

545
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: I gotta get me a Jim Brown jersey?

546
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: Right?

547
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: It makes no sense.

548
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: But they ever, they're going to be trying to sell

549
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 3: their career players in those jerseys they are. Yeah. Yeah,

550
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: By the way, if they would just give it back

551
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: to the Texans, it would erase one of the I

552
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: think worst branded teams in the history of professional sports.

553
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: It would erase what I think are awful uniforms.

554
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: They are the Houston uniform. The Houston Texans uniform is

555
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: the creative team on Madden template Like that's bad. Yeah yeah,

556
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: the template like basically just hit them a all the

557
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: way through to just get it so you can start

558
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: the game. And then that's what you ended up with,

559
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: was that. I don't get the.

560
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: No not that there could have been it. There could

561
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: be the like Saint Paul Minnesotan's, or there could be

562
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: the Los Angeles.

563
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: Californians, Cleveland, Ohioans.

564
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: The Cleveland, Ohio Like, it's just it's the worst name ever.

565
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: It's And then they kind then they kind of cheated

566
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: on the helmet because they obviously wanted to use a steer,

567
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: but that's Texas, so they couldn't put like the longhorn

568
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: on there, so they kind of went like this hybrid animal. Well,

569
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: the state is absolutely identified as a long horn. That's

570
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: the image of the state is the longhorn and its

571
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: said they have kind of I don't know. It kind

572
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: of looks like a in a way, kind of like

573
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: a European mount for a bison head is kind of

574
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: the way that the the lorns go. And then it's

575
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: like the state flag is in it. It's it's awful, awful, awful.

576
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 3: What do you think if it's a Spike store and

577
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: it's you're dealing with, you know, multiple billionaires, Like why

578
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't they just sell the likenesses? Like why wouldn't Why

579
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: couldn't the textans say here's we're gonna give you ten

580
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: million bucks, yeah, for the rights for that, for those

581
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: uniforms back and to become the Houston Oilers, because that's

582
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: what we'd like to be. We would like the Houston Oilers.

583
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: I think it would take ownership change in Tennessee from

584
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: Bud Adams's family because his bitterness is the stuff of legend.

585
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: I think we've talked to the General about that about

586
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: Bud Adams, the trio towards the city of Houston wild

587
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: and his daughter Amy Shrunk Adams owns us or Adam

588
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: Shrunk owns him now and so until there's an ownership

589
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: change in Tennessee. There's probably no path for it.

590
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: It's just sometimes I think that that's where like Adele

591
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: just has to intervene and say that I could agree

592
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: with you more. The betterment of the league. The Houston

593
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: Texans is a failure. Let's be the Houston Oilers again

594
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: and bring back those sweet uniforms.

595
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: And wear them all the time. Put the Dereck's on

596
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: the side of the helmet and go. Go. Problem solved.

597
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: Sell some CJ. Stroud number sevens in light blue the end.

598
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: Probably the only good thing that came out of this

599
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: franchise being ripped out of this city was that resident

600
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: that they kept. That they kept the brand, the history,

601
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: all of it. The fact that we imagine, if you're

602
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: us right now, if we couldn't honor Jim Brown or

603
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: Auto Graham, Imagine if we were the Cleveland if we

604
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 2: were the Cleveland Browns but you did not have the history,

605
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: I guess you couldn't even be the Cleveland Browns. You'd

606
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: be something else. You have to figure something else out.

607
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: But if you couldn't, if you went down to the

608
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: lake and there wasn't a statue of Jim Brown, imagine

609
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: us not being able to like do anything with Bernie Kozar. Yeah,

610
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: like that's what happened. Like they don't own their own

611
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: damn history. And that changed here. The Sonics did the

612
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: same thing. Oklahoma City was an expansion franchise. If when

613
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: Seattle gets an NBA team, Sean camp Gary Payton, all

614
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: of that, it's all still in Seattle.

615
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: Yah, it's all of it.

616
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: They will be the Seattle Super.

617
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: So that's what's crazy when you go to Houston is

618
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: there's no Warren Moon, there's none of it.

619
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Speaker 2: Well, then Tennessee's in this awkward thing of like trying

620
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: to honor Oilers, like they'll have Earl Campbell to Nashville's the.

621
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: Biggest Texas legend ever in front of never fans in Nashville.

622
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: No, he's a Texas kid who played at Texas and

623
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: then played for the Oilers. Like, and they'll bring war

624
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: Moon to Nashville. Just ridiculous. And so I agree with you.

625
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: I think it's something that the commissioner could just say, no,

626
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: this is what we're doing. We're so we're doing like

627
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: they're staying this stuff stays there. Yes, yes, so that's

628
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: right anyway, all right, lots of it, lots of lots

629
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: of stuff there for the kids. We'll do our positional rankings.

630
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: We'll do we'll see if Zeke can get ten out

631
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 2: of ten on the running backs, and that is coming up.

632
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: I've got sixteen names written down.

633
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: Go around the league as well as everyone is getting

634
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: set to reports. A couple of things. I want to

635
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: run past you on the quarterback show. Let me just

636
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: write this down. I got a pen. And then also

637
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to discuss hard knocks. Okay, all right, so

638
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: we'll get to that as well. We'll do some positional

639
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: previews as this thing goes along. Take a look at

640
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: the lineback situation. A little thing or not a thing

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Speaker 3: I really want to go ten for ten, but it's

650
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Speaker 3: gonna be hard.

651
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: I think if you have sixteen, then I'm afraid you're not. Yeah,

652
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: that doesn't feel like that's well.

653
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: I bracket I've bracketed off the other six.

654
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: Do you ever have that thing? This is from strakes

655
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: me to no end. Like my computer updated, updated yesterday

656
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: and I forgot the passwords. Oh, like that's ridiculous. Apple's

657
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: almost never do that. I don't know why this is

658
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: doing this. I'm having a lot of trouble safari Like,

659
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: so I'm trying to get that I have an ESPN

660
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: Plus thing, but it's like I should be able to

661
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: look at that without having to remember the password from

662
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: four years ago.

663
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: I have one question before we get into this that

664
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: I think is a fair question to ask. Yep, our

665
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: rookies eligible to be in this list?

666
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: In other words, it's b Jhon Robinson on the list. Yes,

667
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: our rookies eligible to be on the list.

668
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: Give me no?

669
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, all right. I think I'm gonna come out.

670
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: Hot coop, give us a little travel in music.

671
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: Going to come out hot here. But then when you

672
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: get down to eight, nine, ten, I think there's gonna

673
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: be a lot of writer preference. Okay, here we go.

674
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: You ready, I'm ready, buddy. The pressure's on you. Yeah,

675
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here. Nick Chop number one.

676
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry, Yeah, he's on here, down to number five,

677
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey number two, Barkley number four, Austin Eckler.

678
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: He's on number ten.

679
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Too low for him, that's way too low for him.

680
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, Yes, I saw just Jacobs, and I believe

681
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: he was number four, no number three.

682
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: And so now we're at six, six for six, Jonathan

683
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: Taylor number six, okay, seven for seven, Tony Pollard number nine, okay, okay,

684
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: so that's big, Dalvin Cook number eight, okay, So here

685
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: it is all right. I'm just gonna talk through my

686
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: thought process here right, go ahead, nine for nine, So

687
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: I'm missing what number number seven? Number seven? So here

688
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: are myke I'm gonna just talk out loud. I like it.

689
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara, I think is probably the answer. But he's

690
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: been banged up and has been it's been down, so

691
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if he would still stay there. But

692
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: that's my initial lean is Alvin Kamara, and that's not

693
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: a final answer. Other people who I think are in

694
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: the mix, Naji Harris, I don't think it's him. Joe Mixon,

695
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it's him. Ramandre Stevenson, I think it

696
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: is possible. Travis Etn is possible, but I don't think

697
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: it's him. Aaron Jones, I think is very possible, and

698
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: then Miles Sanders, I think is possible, but I'm gonna

699
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: stick with Kamara. That was my original ten.

700
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: Can I tell you where I think where I would

701
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: go here? Yeah, based on your extrapolating, Yeah, I think

702
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: it's Travis Etien.

703
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Chavis Etn.

704
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't have INSI no, no, no, no, this

705
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: is as the answer.

706
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 5: No.

707
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 2: I can't get it to pull off.

708
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: I can't final answer. I'm sick, I can't log in.

709
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I think at the end, based off

710
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: of your reason and I'm just thinking through it all,

711
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be Travis Ettien. You think it's Kamara.

712
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: There's one spot left?

713
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: What is it?

714
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: It would have been so great had he just followed

715
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: your lead and gone to at ten because been wrong, conviction.

716
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: An honorable mention. So my other six s I uh

717
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: Remandre Stevenson, yes, e t N, Yes, Aaron Jones, yes,

718
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: Miles Sanders.

719
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: Uh boy, I don't think.

720
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: So he got nothing the league in rushing.

721
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: He was also receiving votes.

722
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: Okay, nause receiving votes. Yeah, that's where he should be, Aaron,

723
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: I said, Aaron Jones. Already Joe Mixon, Joe.

724
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: Mixon is not on this anyway.

725
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: Okay, ten for ten.

726
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

727
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 4: In the honorable mentions Aaron Jones, Damian Pierce, oh Houston, Bryce.

728
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: Hall so Brice Saw was somebody that and Kenneth Walker

729
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: they both probably could have been.

730
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: Walker was in there, yeah, receiving boats. Uh. Javonte Williams from.

731
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: Denver, he was our guy, remember that such a big

732
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: leg shredded his leg?

733
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: And who else?

734
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 4: Aj Dillon from Green That's interesting.

735
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Let me run this by you. We were talking about

736
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: the running back thing the other day and we were

737
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: talking about, like, you know, these are the stars of

738
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: the game, Nick Chubs, the most popular player on our team.

739
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: How do you compensate them? While there's also doesn't make

740
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: sense to compensate them. I was singing about this this morning.

741
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: I wonder if if the way to do it, if

742
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: you're the PA and they've done this a little bit

743
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: on defense, is instead of qualifying or classifying someone as

744
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: a receiver, a tight end or a running back, you

745
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: classify them as a weapon. Well, that's what that's right,

746
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: So you you you classify a player as a weapon.

747
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: It's basically the NBA effication where the NBA is basically positionless.

748
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: When we were kids, it was point guard, shooting guard,

749
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: small forward, power forward, center. Now it's basically for out

750
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: one end. It's kind of what it is. Everybody's a

751
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's five out, sometimes five out. And I do

752
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: wonder if that's if you're the NFLPA, is that a

753
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: better hill to die on is weapon? In that way,

754
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: if you franchise, take somebody like Christian McCaffrey or somebody

755
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: like Saquon Barkley for that moment, at least they are

756
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 2: given the true value of what they are as a weapon,

757
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: as opposed to a positional value, which is what they're

758
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: at now. Yeah, Kelsey would have argued this too. I'm

759
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: sure he probably has.

760
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I like it. It's that already goes to

761
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: show though, right because they rick that there are a

762
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: lot of very good running backs in the league, and

763
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: they're constantly our new ones every single year.

764
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: It's similar to receiver. There's an overwhelming depth of receiver

765
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: in the league. I don't know if we've done the

766
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: top ten receiver thing lot yet.

767
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Now, is that.

768
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: So when you do? When we do that, though, you'll go,

769
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: good lord, there's like thirty great receivers in the league.

770
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: Right right, that would be one a team, and they

771
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: usually are playing two or three at a time.

772
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: Right true, versus one at a time at the running

773
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: back spot. That's why I think like, if you can

774
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: just qualify it as a weapon, that would allow for

775
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: a little bit more of an honest approach to the

776
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: value of a player.

777
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: It's just.

778
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: At least on the tag. Yeah, Like you're never going

779
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: to get a situation where a running back gets the

780
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: contract DeAndre Hopkins got. That'll never happen. That Z contract

781
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: is never going to be handed out again. But at

782
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: least on the tag in a one year they could

783
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: get real value.

784
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what they're worth the nation? The nation?

785
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: How's he doing?

786
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 3: Looks great?

787
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: He looks great, just finished grad school, got a baby,

788
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: God bless him?

789
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, good job at him?

790
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah legend, all right, good job, you got ten out

791
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: of ten. You've done it. You've done it. That was

792
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: a tough one because there were like those at the

793
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: end were dicey, a little tough.

794
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kamaras, I knew he was. I had a feeling

795
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: he was the answer. But it's more based on reputation

796
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: than maybe most recent performance.

797
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: Do you think that we will see any disciplinary with him?

798
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: Feels likely, right, Yeah, that we'll see something. I just

799
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: think in cases like that, if they are going to

800
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: just do it, you get it. Look what we did,

801
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: like what we went through last year, which is sanity garbage. Yeah,

802
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: let's just do it like all the data was there.

803
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: You didn't need to do it, didn't need to play

804
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,399
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805
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,200
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Speaker 2: the league, the Steelers of extended pass rusher Alex high

815
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: Smith four years sixty eighty at fourteen and a half

816
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: sacks last season. I'm gonna like, they draft rush people

817
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: better than anybody in the history of the league.

818
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just reload that.

819
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: This goes back, Yeah, all the way back, like Greg Lloyd,

820
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: Kevin Green era. Like they have these guys Woodley and

821
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: those guys when they were there, Porter, Like.

822
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: They got James Harrison was undrafted.

823
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, they got James. Yeah, yeah, they can

824
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: do it. They when it comes to finding them, they do.

825
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: They get them, they lock them in, they teach them

826
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: how to play, and they go, uh. It's it's a

827
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: remarkable thing.

828
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: Heismith was not as effective when TJ. Watt was not there,

829
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: but when DJ Watt was there, he was incredibly effective.

830
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: The TJ. Watt stat we did last year is the

831
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: might be the single most impressive individual human stat in

832
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: the NFL. I've ever heard.

833
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: Agreed. Yeah, when it was, the difference in their their

834
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: points of per game allow was over a touchdown yards

835
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: per game was insane. And then the sacks went from

836
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: like four a game to one, and the turnovers went

837
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: from like none to three a game or two a game.

838
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: I've never seen a non quarter quarterback or quite for

839
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: I've ember seen a non quarterback position player of that

840
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: type of point or impact where he's worth a touchdowns.

841
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: He's an edge. The Jets so the first team to

842
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: have everyone report, so they did that as well. We

843
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: talked about the seahock uniforms. Back to the Jets.

844
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. You have too. You wrote down to.

845
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: Two things I want to discuss with you number one.

846
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: So the reason that that that that there was such

847
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: a delay on Hard Knocks is the Jets fought at

848
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: tooth and nail.

849
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: Yep.

850
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: They wanted no part of it. Yep. One of the

851
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: things that has been reported that they that they are

852
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: not going to be a part of and they're saying

853
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: because it's the humanity of it all, is they are

854
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: not going to be part of the cut down is

855
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: not going to be part of Hard Knocks, so you

856
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: won't see the cut at the end, which has been

857
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: the end of Hard Knocks is you follow these guys.

858
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's guys who are legitimately on the on the nose,

859
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: and other times it's guys who like Devin could Juice

860
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: who never had a chance, nice kid but had no

861
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: chance to make this right. But is that did did

862
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: we mislead?

863
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 4: No?

864
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: We told them, We told them who to follow, and

865
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: they chose people who weren't or those people. So that's

866
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: a failure on that.

867
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: I know that.

868
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: When I talked to the guys, I was like, yeah,

869
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: follow these guys.

870
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: Maybe not these guys, yeah, because it didn't add up

871
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: like the who they followed. That was my first year

872
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: here and I was like, what are they I didn't

873
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: even know the roster the way I do now and

874
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: not even in the city the way you do it.

875
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: But it was like, they're not They're not making that roster. No,

876
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: Devin Canjewics was never making that roster. Can you how

877
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: much of a loss is that to not have the

878
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: cut down on hard knocks. I think it's a big

879
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: part of it.

880
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: This is the way they're going to do it. They're

881
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: going to do it like the end of you know

882
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: many great reality shows on Bravo or some documentaries, Well

883
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: they'll show like a still picture or a video and

884
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: then put the text over it. So and so, yeah

885
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: cut but he's the hopes to sign on the practice squad.

886
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah made the roster. That's all. I mean,

887
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: the emotion of it is not what it used to

888
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: be because as a viewer you're almost the sensive because

889
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: you've seen it so many times. So like, I don't

890
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: think that's a huge loss.

891
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: From I also think we know more likely who is

892
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: going to make cuts or not compared to back in

893
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: those days when there were five ten years. Yeah, yeah,

894
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: I think it's a loss. It's not. It's not a

895
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: game record to me. I'll still be into it, obviously.

896
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be. The real interesting thing will

897
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: be who do the Jets give them to follow? Who

898
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: do they allow for them to follow and be like

899
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: their focal people.

900
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: It's got to be Aaron Rodgers, well, I.

901
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: Would think so, But like the year we did it,

902
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: you would have said it's got to be Baker, and

903
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: Baker wasn't featured. He was on it, but he wasn't.

904
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the number one pick in the draft.

905
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: He's a celebrity quarterback. It was broken Roeback for crying

906
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: out loud, like put a punch of nouns like you have,

907
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: David So. But I don't know how that is that

908
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: a decision that has made. Is that organizationally saying leave

909
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: him alone.

910
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: I guess the difference there is that we were members

911
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 3: in organization. Tarad was the starter. Yeah, that's what we're

912
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: not going to focus on, the non starter.

913
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: He's the number one pick in the draft.

914
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: Starter, I got him.

915
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: I want Zach Wilson more than anybody.

916
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: I'd like to see that whole quarterback ground.

917
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: I'd like to see that operation.

918
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: How Zach Wilson see Nathaniel Hackett as well. Yeah, that

919
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: whole thing I think would be very very good, go

920
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: so wrong in Denver.

921
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: Here's one other Here's one other thing that I think

922
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: is that I don't know if anyone's thought about yet.

923
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: I assume this is the case. Liev Schreiber has voiced

924
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: this for twenty years. Yeah, there is currently an actor

925
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: and writer strike in Hollywood, seg after. I would assume

926
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: that that would apply to voice work. Are they going

927
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: without a narrator or will they have They'll have an area,

928
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: They'll have a Jets guy do it. I don't think

929
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: he'll do it.

930
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: I wonder what the what it'll be.

931
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I don't know that he would

932
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: be on it. I bet he's not find out because

933
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: he's definitely in seg after.

934
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: Maybe they're going to find somebody who's not that has

935
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: got a good reasonable impersonation of his voice.

936
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: Or they could go in a different direction and they

937
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: could have like the voice, isn't that our guy was shoosing?

938
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't he do? Is he the voice of the Jets?

939
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: They could do a Bob do it and then each team. Yeah,

940
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: but you can't get an actor to do it all right,

941
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: Next thing, I want to run by you have you

942
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: have you seen the Quarterback show? You say that one

943
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: maybe the part of two, so obviously the whole operation

944
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: is mahomes Ye, that's as it would be. He comes

945
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: across even cooler, like he's universally beloved. Kids love, everybody

946
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: loves him. He's there's like a Steph Curry thing, like

947
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: I think there's just kind of like, Wow, he's different

948
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: than anything we've seen. He's so likable. You don't like

949
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: his brother. But other than that, the rest of it's

950
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: a win. I didn't think it was possible for him

951
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: to be more cool, but then he is, so you

952
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: have Yeah, he's great. He will not go off the

953
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: field for the for the X ray. Yeah, he's yelling everybody,

954
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm not coming on off the field. Then he's like,

955
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: I'm coming back in hobbling out, and then you get

956
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: this clip of him with Jalen Hurts where they're sitting

957
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl. Mahomes tells him, yeah, I bought

958
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: an AIRBA and b five five minutes from the from

959
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: the headquarters for the Super Bowl three months ago. Yes,

960
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, any of your family coming out, No, man,

961
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: I can lodging whatever. He's like, oh, man, I got

962
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 2: an Airbnb three months ago, five minutes from the facility.

963
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: He bet on himself.

964
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: Of course, what a legend. Well, he's only got all

965
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: he knows is going to the AFC change and then

966
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: he's won three of them.

967
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: Gone like, oh yeah, I bought this three months ago

968
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: I figured would be here.

969
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

970
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: Nuts. Who would you like to see on it next year?

971
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: Because it's coming back. Manning announced it's coming back. I

972
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: don't think they need to do three That's what I

973
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: would say out of the gates. I don't think they

974
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: need to do three players.

975
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: Don't you think they're going to do Do you think

976
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 3: they're gonna do the same formula stu Are. Manning said

977
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: it'll be a little different, A little different. Okay, he

978
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: had an availability.

979
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: I think he was on McAfee or something. He said,

980
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: it'll be a little different than what it was.

981
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: So here's what I tweaked.

982
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they'll follow, like the guy

983
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: hanging on WA's of the the superstars. Gonna be very

984
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 2: very interesting if the player is interesting, and I think

985
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: I know where they're gonna go there.

986
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: But who do you think they're gonna say?

987
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: It'll be Burrow?

988
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: You think it'll be Burrow?

989
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: I would I'm pretty sure why you say that? Yeh

990
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: scores limited scores, I do. I think there's a very

991
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: good chance.

992
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: I was gonna say it's gotta be Burrow Allen.

993
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: I think Burrow and Allen are the two that make

994
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: the most sense. Hurt or Yeah, but I think I

995
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: think I think it'll.

996
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: Be bur Burrow.

997
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: Good.

998
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: Hope it's a distraction then you I would like to

999
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: see I'd love to see one of these rookies. I

1000
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: think that would be very interesting, like c J. Stroud,

1001
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 3: Bryce Young. I think that would be for Richardson in

1002
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: in India. I'd love to see one of the rookies.

1003
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: I'd like to see, like what a rookie really goes through,

1004
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: like how see them learn their playbook and their head

1005
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: spin and all of that. So I would want to

1006
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: go with one of the top picks from this year's

1007
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: draft class, Burrow, and then I don't know that I

1008
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: need like necessarily, you know, like the scrap around guy.

1009
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: He's not really a scrap around guy, but you could

1010
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: sign me up for Stafford because I think that that

1011
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: team dynamic is fascinating.

1012
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: Stafford would be interesting. I think Russ would be very interesting.

1013
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: Russ is another one that would be very interesting if

1014
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: you could get like a real unvarnished whatever that looks like,

1015
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: if he knows how to be that. Yeah, I think

1016
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: Garoppolo with the Raiders would be fascinating if it was

1017
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: completely unvarnished. It might have to be on HBO Max

1018
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: as opposed to Netflix. I guess Netflix can do that too. Yeah,

1019
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 2: I think I think Baker would be a hanger on guy.

1020
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 2: Like he's fighting for his career this season in Tampa. Yeah,

1021
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: he's never going to be what he was rafted to be,

1022
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: but like this is probably the last camp that he's

1023
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 2: going to go into as a starter, and it feels

1024
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: like he's going in as a starter in Tampa Bay.

1025
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: If this flops, then I don't he's not gonna get

1026
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: another at Bath.

1027
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: Jordan Love would be an interesting one too, taking over

1028
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 3: for a legend. Yeah, it would actually be interesting if

1029
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: they did. Let's say they Burrow, they did Burrow, Rogers

1030
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: and Jordan Love for the three.

1031
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't think they need that type of star power

1032
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: at the top though.

1033
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 3: Burrow and Rogers, well, you're not gonna get another shot

1034
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: Rogers and punt on.

1035
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: Burrow and do Rogers. Now you could do Rogers Love

1036
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: and whoever else that might be good. Roger there. Their

1037
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: model is definitely gonna be we get asked this guy

1038
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: one favor one time for this Peyton, you need to

1039
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: do the ask. So that's the Mahomes ask. So that

1040
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: would be the Rogers.

1041
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: Want Derek Carr. We've already seen him and he's boring. Yeah,

1042
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: don't want Derek Carr. I think when the rookies to

1043
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: be interesting. Bryce Young would be very interesting, Levis because

1044
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: Tannehill going to start.

1045
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: Yeah for a little bit, don't need Goff.

1046
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: He was just on hard knocks justin. Fields would be

1047
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: an interesting one.

1048
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: Fields would be a good one, kind of a bit

1049
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: it's a monster year for him. Yeah, one of those

1050
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: young cats. Yeah, where it's time to go. Yeah that

1051
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 2: that that will be you have to have the headliner.

1052
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: I think that rookie thing you're saying would be very interesting.

1053
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 3: If the kid's interesting.

1054
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: And I do like the idea of like a guy.

1055
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: That's why I think they could be a good one.

1056
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: He's got a ton of personality. I mean, he's not

1057
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: you want to talk about life comes at you fast.

1058
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: It's not long ago. He's a face of progressive. Yeah.

1059
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 3: Now he's on his fourth team in a year.

1060
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: Right, and he's never going to get another opportunity to

1061
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: start if this goes bad.

1062
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: No, but he's Mike Evans, He's got Godwin, he.

1063
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: Had guys here like, he's got opportunity to be successful.

1064
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: It's just can he do it? I mean we I

1065
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: think you know where you're leaning on that. But there's

1066
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: also like a football mortality thing in those type of guys.

1067
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope, I do hope he does.

1068
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: Well. Sure, it's if do you that type of the

1069
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: guys fighting their football mortality? I think are I also think.

1070
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: It would be kind of fascinating and I don't know

1071
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: if people would think it wasn't It could end up

1072
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: being something cool. But the follow like, I don't even

1073
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: know if he's an interesting guy, but it seemed like

1074
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: they really liked Heinecke in Washington. So now he's in Atlanta.

1075
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: He's the backup, but he's been a starter. I do

1076
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: think it would be interesting for people to get a

1077
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: real life look at what a backup quarterback's life is, like,

1078
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: what they do during the week, in the meetings, how

1079
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: they're prepping the starter, all of that. I think that

1080
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: would be an interesting thing. And it's a guy that

1081
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: might start some games.

1082
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: You know, is there a guy who was a backup

1083
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: here that you think would fit that would be both entertaining.

1084
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: Like Case Keenan would have been great, Case would have

1085
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: been great great on this show. Yeah, Jacobey'd be great.

1086
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need somebody though, that's that's got a little

1087
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew would be he would be great on Yeah,

1088
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: there's another one that would be very very good. All right,

1089
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: those are the things I want to address with.

1090
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so if it's Burrow, I definitely think

1091
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: it's got to be a rookie you need to have

1092
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: with that, a rookie or a younger guy. So I

1093
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: think it'd be awesome to have Bryce young because he

1094
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: is so different. He's smaller than anybody we've seen drafted

1095
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: at that spot. He looked like a little kid at

1096
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: their you know, mini camp, and I think it would

1097
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: just be fascinating to see how he does it. And

1098
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 3: then I think or Justin Fields would be a great one.

1099
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: And then I think Jordan Love would be a very

1100
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: interesting one, trying to follow in the footsteps of Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

1101
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: the tough part with like a guy like Bake or

1102
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: with Mariota as he saw last year, like at some

1103
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: point if things aren't going great in Tampa, which it's

1104
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: hard to imagine that that's a team that's gonna, you know,

1105
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: be a playoff team again, maybe the NFC is wide open,

1106
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: so I yees, maybe, but there's a good chance that

1107
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: he's that Kyle Trask is gonna play some games this year,

1108
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: just like there's a good chance that Mariota is gonna

1109
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: get bench for Richards and then you have and then

1110
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: he's peace. I'm out, ye, Which I heard that. Have

1111
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: you gotten that far?

1112
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: Huh?

1113
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: No? I heard that's pretty.

1114
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 4: Like real?

1115
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: I bet it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet it is.

1116
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: We'll do the positional breakdown on the linebacker side of things.

1117
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Speaker 2: I mean we have quarterbacks and rookies are here. The

1131
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: rest of them will be here on Friday, teams reporting

1132
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: around the league. Linebacker is the positional preview of the day,

1133
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: my friend.

1134
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: And for that we go to Duck Dizzy All right,

1135
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: linebacker room, a lot of familiar faces. It's really your

1136
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 3: top five linebackers, or really you even could say top

1137
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: six are all guys that were on the roster last year. Now,

1138
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: the Browns had a lot of injuries last year. You

1139
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: look at it and you say to yourself, Anthony Walker Junior,

1140
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 3: he only played what three game two game? Three games?

1141
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: He got hurt in that third week against the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1142
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 3: so he got three games out of Anthony Walker junior.

1143
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: Jacob Phillips only played in seven games for you last year,

1144
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: so Ony Taki Taki in twelve games when he tore

1145
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: his ACL down there in Houston. And then Jeremiah Usu

1146
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 3: Kormo only played in eleven games, so three, seven, eleven,

1147
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: and twelve, So twenty three thirty thirty three games out

1148
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: of a possible if I do my math really quickly,

1149
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: sixty eight for your linebacking corps last year, Jordan Kuanashi

1150
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: played fifteen. That led that room. Your top five, they're

1151
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: all back. Now the question is will Cioni Taiki Taki

1152
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 3: be ready for Week one? Tony Fields gave you seventeen

1153
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 3: games as well and actually played really well down the

1154
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 3: stretch once he became a starter with all the injuries,

1155
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: so you feel really good about you know, A Walks

1156
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 3: back on the one year deal. J Okay, you hope

1157
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: that with Dalvin Tomlinson and Eka in front of him,

1158
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: this is the year he really goes. Jacob Phillips tantalizing,

1159
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: but Canny stay healthy. This is probably his last chance.

1160
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 3: And you got Tony Fields back, and you've got Jordan Kunashik.

1161
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: That's six. Matthew Adams I believe is going to make

1162
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: this football team. Okay, and right now they love what

1163
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: Jordan Kunashik's giving them. And he is a Jim Schwartz

1164
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 3: wore his jersey.

1165
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: Pretty good chance.

1166
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: Bubba Van Tron absolutely loves what he's seen from him,

1167
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: so and he's he's a special teams ace. The question

1168
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: then is how does this linebacking room shake out. Let's

1169
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: just say that Sioni Taki Taki is ready to go

1170
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: for the season. In addition to the names that I mentioned,

1171
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 3: you've got Mohammed Diabate and Charlie Thomas the third undrafted

1172
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: free agents. Both of them will have shown flashes to

1173
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: our good Man Tarv but likely to be practice squad guys.

1174
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: Matthew Adams is considered to be one of the best

1175
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: special teams linebackers in the NFL. So he's on your

1176
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: team four special teams. Can play some linebacker, but that

1177
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: really is where that's his bread and butter. He is

1178
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: a core special teams ace. He's been there in Indie

1179
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 3: with Bubba Ventrone, but the Throne brought him here. He

1180
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: was with Chicago last year. It feels like he will

1181
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: be on the roster. That was one of the guys

1182
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: they wanted. So I think he got six spots here.

1183
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: There could be this is if there was a surprise cut.

1184
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: I guess it could in theory come from this room.

1185
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: But you got j Oka's a lock we'll put We'll

1186
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 3: say that he might be the only true lock lock lock.

1187
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: Is Taki ready? That's the question. So if Taki's not ready,

1188
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: I think it actually becomes pretty easy. You'll have j Oka,

1189
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 3: You'll love Anthony Walker Junior, You'll have Jacob Phillips, You'll

1190
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: have Jordan Kuanashik, Tony Fields and Matthew Adams. If Taki

1191
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: is ready for week one, then somebody from that group

1192
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: has got to go. And the question is will it

1193
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 3: be a surprise. Will it be a young player who

1194
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: has not you know, fulfilled his promise like a Jacob

1195
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: Phillips would it be a kunashik would be Matthew Adams

1196
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 3: is kunashik out Matthew Adams. Matthew Adams is a special

1197
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: teams guy who actually gives you more at the linebacker position.

1198
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: But I think there are probably six spots here. We

1199
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: had five going into week one last season, and I

1200
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: think the big question for me is who's the odd

1201
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: man out? As I said, if Taki's not ready for

1202
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: week one and opens on the pup list, so that'd

1203
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 3: be six weeks, that gives you that roster spot, and

1204
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: then I think it becomes easy if he's ready to go.

1205
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: I think that's it's going to be interesting to see

1206
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 3: how that all goes. And I think one thing to

1207
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: pay attention to in training camp is where they are

1208
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: with the linebackers, first team, second team, third team, how

1209
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 3: that goes, But then also where they are with special teams.

1210
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: Who's with the first special teams unit, who's not, And

1211
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: that could tell you give you a little bit of

1212
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: insight until who ultimately makes this team. But we're not

1213
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: gonna play a ton of linemkers, so six feels almost

1214
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: like a big number.

1215
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: Well that's I's just gonna ask you because as we're

1216
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: going through these, we're predicting, like how many are to

1217
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: make every room. It feels like we're one or more

1218
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: more than we were a year ago in some of

1219
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: these rooms. Just did this on defensive line, like eleven

1220
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: or whatever the number one ten of them. You've got

1221
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: to if you're gonna rob for Peter, you to pay Paul.

1222
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: Peter has to be robbed.

1223
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: Offense. I think you'll be less on offense.

1224
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: So is that running back where is that we're pulling from.

1225
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 3: You'll you'll only have three tight ends. We had four

1226
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: a lot of the times. And then I think maybe

1227
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: you get away with Matt caring quite as many offensive

1228
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: lineman on your active roster because you have the extra

1229
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: guys that can on practice squad that can come up

1230
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: on game day. I think you're gonna have to carry

1231
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: three quarterbacks though, like if we did it when we

1232
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: did it real quickly, I think your three quarterbacks, three

1233
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: running backs. I think you're six wide receivers, three tight ends.

1234
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 3: So that's six twelve, that's fifteen, and then you need

1235
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: to go nine on the nile line. He gives you

1236
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: twenty four.

1237
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: That'll get you there.

1238
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: I get there, and then you could on the back end,

1239
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 3: go ten six ten.

1240
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: This is this is a unit that if it it's

1241
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: just never been healthy. But if this group is healthy,

1242
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: j Okay, Anthony Walker, Sioni Taki Taki. Jacob Phillips is

1243
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: the biggest what if because when he's played, he's great.

1244
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: He just hasn't played And where what going into year

1245
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: four with Jacob? Yeah, that's amazing, Yeah, because you think

1246
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: about what he was in flash as a rookie. When

1247
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: he's played, what you believe that he had been. But

1248
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: he just cannot stay upright.

1249
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: No, Jacob Phillips in his for his career, that's just

1250
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: kind of been unfortunately for him. That's the knockout. When

1251
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: he plays, he is incredibly productive. He's a guy who

1252
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: can sack the quarterback. He's a guy who can intercept passes,

1253
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: get his hands on the football, force fumbles. He does

1254
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 3: it all. But unfortunately he just has not been able

1255
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: to stay healthy. Jacob Phillips in three years in the league,

1256
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: which would be sixteen, sixteen, seventeen in terms of games, right,

1257
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: last year was the first was seventeen, So that's forty

1258
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 3: nine possible games. How many games do you think Jacob

1259
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: Phllips has played? In his career twenty four twenty yeah,

1260
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: nine four seven Yeah, And in twenty games with eight

1261
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 3: career starts, he's got eighty eight tackles, three sacks, five

1262
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: tackles for lost, four quarterback hits and five passes defense.

1263
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: I mean when he plays, he is very productive. Yeap,

1264
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 3: he looks incredible. I mean he's an incredible specimen.

1265
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1266
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: But their are decisions will tough decisions will have to

1267
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: be made in there. The guy that needs to have

1268
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: the big year in this room. And the question I

1269
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: think that I would say is out there is can

1270
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 3: Jeremiahusu Kormo become a star? I think he was drafted

1271
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: to be a star. He was a star at Notre Dame,

1272
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: and the question is now can he become a star

1273
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Browns? And I think that's what we

1274
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: really need to see.

1275
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,959
Speaker 2: There were certainly times as a rookie where it felt

1276
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: dea and to be the case, he is somebody that

1277
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: you know, you and I were the first to talk

1278
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: about it. And the loss of Anthony Walker last year

1279
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: was massive, massive for our defense and for j ok

1280
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think I think for you know,

1281
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: we're at a point now We've addressed what needed to

1282
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: be addressed on the defensive line through free agency, draft,

1283
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: that that's set, that's locked in for this defense to

1284
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: be one that is one that is feared. You know,

1285
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 2: you need We've done a lot of these positional things.

1286
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: You know, you need j Ok to become a borderline

1287
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl player. You need Grant Delpit to be the

1288
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: type of player he was at the second half of

1289
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: last season. You need Newsome to not only be a

1290
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: great cover guy, but be a guy who gets you

1291
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: a couple of picks. You need Emerson to keep You

1292
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: need these young cats. Like when we it's the top

1293
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 2: of the show, we're talking about it's go time for

1294
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys. Who are these guys who

1295
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: were drafted, whether the first round or second rounds, it's

1296
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 2: go time defensively for a lot of these guys. They've

1297
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: got to take the step and become reach their full

1298
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: potential for this team to be what it's supposed to be.

1299
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: It's this back and they.

1300
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: Should be freed up at the second level to go

1301
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: make plays. Yeah, I do think we're going to see

1302
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: a lot of times where there's a linebacker on the field,

1303
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: maybe two, you know, because if you're bringing five, let's

1304
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: say you have five guys on the line and you're

1305
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: playing nickel behind it, five plus five is ten. You're

1306
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 3: only a lot eleven. So it means you're gonna have

1307
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 3: one linebacker. Yeah, and I could see times where they

1308
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: do that, where they go no linebackers, and I think

1309
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 3: that'll be interesting to see. Do we ever see Grant

1310
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 3: come down and play a linebacker in those obvious passing situations,

1311
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: or maybe Rodney McCloud come down and play a little linebacker.

1312
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 3: And so you've got three safeties, three corners, and five

1313
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: guys getting after the quarterback.

1314
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's it's the defensive stuff. Is it's go,

1315
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: let's go. There's a lot of kids draft guys who

1316
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: are drafted at good spots, high spots, and yeah, and

1317
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: this will be fun to watch this position battle. There

1318
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: are this one has a feel of a real We've

1319
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: got some tough decisions to make. There are certain times

1320
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: we go through this roster, go, okay, that's all pretty easy.

1321
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: This one.

1322
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna have to cut a good player,

1323
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: is the way it seems to me. Yes, all right,

1324
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: we'll do a little thing or not a thing up next,

1325
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: we'll also do the Bucky Brooks Top ten non quarterback

1326
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 2: franchise building blocks with a little higher or lower coming

1327
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: up as well. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on

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Speaker 2: Garretty yet. What am I getting out of that? What's

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Speaker 2: Buddy Garretty getting out of?

1337
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 3: Some pure joy? Pure joy?

1338
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 4: Some snacks?

1339
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,959
Speaker 3: Ye had, definitely some snacks, Maybe a little gear, Yeah,

1340
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 3: no doubt.

1341
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: He's uh, he's living a good life right now. You're

1342
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: finally engaging. He's behaving well. Wins for everybody.

1343
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: Did you get him most settled down after you're coming

1344
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 4: back from vacation. Yeah, because he was a little wound up.

1345
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 4: You said he was.

1346
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: He was all jacked up and kind of shot out

1347
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: of a cannon. But I think he settled down a

1348
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: little bit. We Uh, his aunt Adie took him for

1349
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: a couple of walks, so those were very very good.

1350
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: He enjoyed. Those are great. Those were great, she had

1351
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: pointed out. And I never think of this because I'm selfish.

1352
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: I only think of things for my He's not a

1353
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: problem at all for me to walk because he he

1354
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: knows I'm boss. But he has a problem sometimes for

1355
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: others because he wants to take off and run. And

1356
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: I had never trained him to walk with a like

1357
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: a choke collar thing. Yeah, I've never done that because

1358
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: that thing I never I'd never taught him to do that.

1359
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: So like with Amy or eighty or like my mother

1360
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: in law, any of them walk him, they're like, oh

1361
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: my god, he pulls. He never pulls me ever, the alpha,

1362
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: because I'm the guy, right, so he doesn't have to

1363
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 2: worry about it. We get him out here doing foursomes

1364
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: with the boys and you know, enjoying domestic beers. So

1365
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 2: I can certainly handle him. But I have all domestic beers,

1366
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: not all, only some. I did though, because you mentioned that.

1367
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: So now I'm walking in with a so that he's

1368
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: used to that when so when other people do so

1369
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: that does a good job at her very good.

1370
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Speaker 3: Just sometime you like international beers are actually owned by

1371
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: domestic companies.

1372
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Speaker 2: That you don't like that you and you sometimes none

1373
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: of that matters, as it were, all right, little little

1374
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: thing or not a thing on a what is it's

1375
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: the first Friday? Act? Accordingly act accordingly, kids, have a cocktail,

1376
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: enjoy yourselves.

1377
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 3: Beautiful, beautiful, alright, I wrote down all my own.

1378
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 4: So this is this is CBS Sports dot Com, our

1379
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 4: favorite content provider, all right, Garrett Potal So it's like

1380
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 4: a new guy.

1381
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 2: Or grant.

1382
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 3: Grant Garrett, I think it's grant. That's what you're here

1383
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: in the rundown.

1384
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: You have a grant.

1385
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 6: It's a fine Stevie. And for me, who made the mistake,

1386
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 6: I'm in charge, so I have to hop on the.

1387
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 4: I'm not leaving you any wiggle room to come in

1388
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 4: this guy, to come in, this guy, what are you

1389
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 4: gonna do?

1390
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 3: He's back, He's back in the mix.

1391
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: It's been a minute.

1392
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 3: Well, I still think I still think Stevie one has

1393
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: potentially I won't hold this against him.

1394
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: I know you see how quickly? Yeah, come on, he's

1395
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: in good ship. He's off to a good start up

1396
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: to start very good.

1397
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 3: Start.

1398
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, predicting last place team in each

1399
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 4: NFL division for the twenty twenty three season. All right,

1400
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 4: thing or not a thing? Who would you have in

1401
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 4: the bottom of the AFC East.

1402
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: You want me to tell you how to do this?

1403
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: This is how you do it. The New England Patriots

1404
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: are going to finish last in the NFC East and

1405
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick will no longer be the coach of the

1406
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Thing or not a thing? Wait what, I'm

1407
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: sorry the Cleveland I saw the helmet will no longer

1408
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: be the coach of the New England Patriots.

1409
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh, there are already people going wild on Twitter. So

1410
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 3: that's that report.

1411
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: So here's your thing or not a thing? Thing or

1412
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: not a thing. The New England Patriots will finish last

1413
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 2: in the AFC East, and this will be Belichick's last

1414
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 2: year in New England.

1415
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 3: So tell us who he says his last and you

1416
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 3: do it like that?

1417
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 4: Okay. I wasn't sure because you had said I have

1418
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: my list. I my list.

1419
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 3: So I'm going to tell you if I agree that

1420
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 3: it's a thing or it's nothing.

1421
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: So the New England Patriots will finish last in the

1422
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: West in the AFC East and Bill Belichi and then

1423
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: add the Belichick part. This will be Belichick's last year

1424
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: in New England. Thing, they're finishing last thing, and it

1425
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: would be I think coach of the year's stuff. If

1426
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: they don't or major injury to Tua or whatever, this

1427
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 2: roster's no good.

1428
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: I don't think. Okay, I think that it is a thing.

1429
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: I think they will finish last. I think this will

1430
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 3: be Belichick's last year in New England, but I do

1431
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 3: not think it will be his last year coaching.

1432
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 2: I agree on all fronts. I think it's done there

1433
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: with him. I think feels like they're wearing on each other.

1434
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: He cannot draft players, he doesn't know what's doing free agency,

1435
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: but I do think he could paratroop into already made

1436
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: and go and go.

1437
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 4: So the next one, I don't really want to add

1438
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 4: anything too, because it's the AFC. Nors and thing are

1439
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: not a thing. According to this guy, this jomoke from.

1440
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 3: Don't even say it.

1441
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 2: Them Browns will finish last in the AFC North.

1442
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: Don't say it, not a thing. Erroneous. Erroneous on both counts.

1443
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: The Steelers will finish last in the AFC North.

1444
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: You know the I'll tell you another one that I

1445
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: think could go a little if they wouldn't have hired Monkin.

1446
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: I think the Ravens could have gone really sideways because

1447
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't love their roster. But I think Buncoin will

1448
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: do wonders for Lamar and in that offense, I think

1449
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: he'll put them in a lot of positions to succeed.

1450
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: I agree with you on Pittsburgh. It's crazy though. Pittsburgh's

1451
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: never lost, never lost lost under Tomlins, So it'll take like,

1452
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 2: can you finish last in this division at nine to eight? Maybe?

1453
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could. You also finished there at eight and nine,

1454
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: and all good things must come to an end. I

1455
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 3: was there when the Undertaker was twenty one and oh

1456
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 3: at Russell Mania, and then brock Lesner walked in and

1457
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: he walked out twenty one and one.

1458
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: So did they do that wrong?

1459
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 4: It was maybe the worst.

1460
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: They did not do that wrong. What do you mean?

1461
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: Russelly thirty was great?

1462
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: So that's that was the appropriate guy to beat Undertaker?

1463
01:08:59,640 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1464
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: Was it quite believable? But they hated each other, right

1465
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: and really yeah, oh.

1466
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 3: No, didn't know he would only I think he do?

1467
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: You think he said he can do it? That's the

1468
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: guy that I'll take it for.

1469
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 4: Up next time. Thing or not a thing. We go

1470
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 4: to the a f C South. The Houston Texans will

1471
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 4: finish last in the a f C South and Davis

1472
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: Mills will start more games than C. J. Stroud.

1473
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 3: Is that your own edition there? I like that.

1474
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 2: That's like that, that's it.

1475
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 3: Not a thing quick and then double not a thing.

1476
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 4: C J.

1477
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 3: Stroud will start significantly more barring injury than Davis Mills,

1478
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 3: and the Indianapolis Colts will finish last in the a

1479
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 3: f C South.

1480
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go thing on they finished last, Houston does

1481
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: finish last. Not a thing on Stroud. I don't know

1482
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 2: who's here.

1483
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 4: We have a we have so many interns, thousand people.

1484
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 2: We have to walk in these halls. Scene. Do you

1485
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: think they when they walk by us? Or like, what

1486
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: are those two guys doing in there? Who are those

1487
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: two guys?

1488
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 6: Like?

1489
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know how I got invited to do a

1490
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 4: two o'clock meeting.

1491
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: That's how I know after a one o'clock yesterday, ring

1492
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 2: them up?

1493
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 3: Not a thing, thing or not a thing.

1494
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 4: We go to the a f C West, the Las

1495
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 4: Vegas Raiders we'll finish last in the A f c West.

1496
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 4: Their head coach. Josh McDaniels will be the head coach

1497
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 4: of the New England Patriots a year from now, and

1498
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 4: the Raiders will be the worst team in the National

1499
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 4: Football League and have the number one pick.

1500
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: Thing not a thing, not a thing, yes, thing, not

1501
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 3: a thing, not a thing. The Raiders will last not

1502
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 3: Harlay that into being the head coach of the New

1503
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 3: England Patriots and the number one pick in Arizona.

1504
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: That's right, Arizona's.

1505
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: Picking one too, all right, I'll simplify Caleb Williams and

1506
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior.

1507
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: I'll simplify Josh McDaniels will not be the head coach

1508
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 4: of the Raiders one year from now. Thing or not.

1509
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the thing either, because I think

1510
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: that how are you going to code pay him not

1511
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 2: to coach too? Yeah, like you're you're paying Gruden, You're

1512
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: paying how many people are you going to pay? So

1513
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't.

1514
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to be incompetent. I just

1515
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 3: think that the other three teams in their division are

1516
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: better than they are.

1517
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that I'm bullish on Denver.

1518
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 2: I think they bounce back too.

1519
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 4: To the NFC East we go. The Washington Commies will

1520
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 4: finish last in the NFC Eastern Division. Yes, and Sam Howell,

1521
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 4: we'll start more games than Jacoby Brissels.

1522
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: Also a thing ye thing than thing, Thing, Thing one,

1523
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 3: Thing two.

1524
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 2: They are They're really close to. It's a shame they

1525
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: have too much talent on defense, because this would be

1526
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 2: a great year for them to tank get to a

1527
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: talent oftense. They had too much talent though, to tank.

1528
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: I actually think I don't want to go too far

1529
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: on hell. But there was a time before he played

1530
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: his last year at North Carolina where people thought he's

1531
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: going in the top five in the draft, and then

1532
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: all of that Javonte Williams was there on that team.

1533
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 2: They had receivers on that team that all went to

1534
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: the league, and all that skill position talent left and

1535
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: he had a very rough final season at North Carolina

1536
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: where he dropped in the draft. People liked him a

1537
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: lot a couple of years ago, so I wouldn't be

1538
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 2: shocked if he was a little better than people are

1539
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: giving him credit for.

1540
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 4: Maybe this is my h this is my hill to

1541
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 4: die on this year, because every year I have one

1542
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 4: AKA Shanahan getting fired, although that did get a little

1543
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 4: traction nationally, did it? Yeah? Did Mike Florio? Oh, why

1544
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 4: isn't he on the hot seat?

1545
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: You're right, Mike, right, He wasn't right because he's a

1546
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 3: genius and he just makes Brock Purty the most effective

1547
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 3: and efficient quarterback in the NFL, mister irrelevant.

1548
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 4: Prior to that, that seat was warm. I thought it

1549
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 4: was very warm. Okay, there you go.

1550
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: What's your hill to die on?

1551
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1552
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 4: I think that the Giants are going to finish last

1553
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 4: in the East. And I think the Commedis could make

1554
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: the playoffs in the NFC.

1555
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: That's not that crazy.

1556
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 3: Anybody can make the playoffs.

1557
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: If Powell's good, they could make it for sure.

1558
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 3: Jacobe could lead them there.

1559
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 4: I just I'm not buying the Giants. I think last

1560
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 4: year was a fluke and.

1561
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: They got a lot of talent there. There's a lot

1562
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 3: of talent. Uh Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's

1563
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 3: going to be the Eagles finishing last, and I don't

1564
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be the Cowboys. So it's it is

1565
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: the Giants of the Comedies. But I think the Commedis

1566
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: are gonna it's gonna be the Commies to the NFC North.

1567
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 3: How did they come like.

1568
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 2: A year later?

1569
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 3: How did they land on Commies? I mean, it's just

1570
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 3: such a fail. Red Hogs was just right there for him.

1571
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 2: Redhawk is there.

1572
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,480
Speaker 3: Like Scott is outrageous.

1573
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have it. It's all there for him.

1574
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: What's the guy's name, man, sergeant sergeant liked it was

1575
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 3: against us, they unveiled it. People were losing their minds.

1576
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 3: Formal stadium people were out for Carson Wentz Blood.

1577
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: The crazy thing it isn't even the worst thing they

1578
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 2: did in the last year, not even in the same vicinity.

1579
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: Because this is also when they honored Sean Taylor and

1580
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 2: they put it his jersey which wasn't even his jersey,

1581
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: kind of on a wire figure. Do you remember this? Yes?

1582
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: I remember that.

1583
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean, and didn't Jackson Mahomes dance on his number

1584
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 3: Major Tuddy Major Tuddy?

1585
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 2: That jumped up a notch. I would, Yeah, you new

1586
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: ownership Red Hogs scriptar on the helmet old uniforms. They

1587
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,520
Speaker 2: Warneder Gibbs. The end solved, problem solved.

1588
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 3: Up next to the nightmares.

1589
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 4: You remember they were. They did it like the first

1590
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 4: and second and a half.

1591
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is is they don't even have to

1592
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: use They can just use something like that, like a

1593
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: pig mascot, but the pig doesn't even have to be

1594
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 2: on the helmet. It can be like the way we

1595
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: use Brownie. Yeah, like just as a piece of it,

1596
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 2: but like just to have this this the r that

1597
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: Joe Gibbs war like done. Problem solved.

1598
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 4: Had all the hogs come back and none of them

1599
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 4: were pleased to be there? No, of course not comfortable.

1600
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: No, because of the commis ridiculous.

1601
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 4: To the NFC Norris Division. The Chicago Bears will finish

1602
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 4: last in the NFC North. Justin Fields will be playing

1603
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 4: his final season as a member of the Chicago Bears.

1604
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: Thing not a thing. I think very possible. They finished

1605
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,560
Speaker 2: last in the AFC North. But I don't know that.

1606
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be worst team in

1607
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: the NFL stuff. I mean, I think that a lot

1608
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 2: that six and eleven would do it, or seven and ten,

1609
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: and that would even be viewed as some sort of

1610
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: success by their margin. But Fields, it won't be gone

1611
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: this year.

1612
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 3: I put. I say, not a thing.

1613
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: I think I like Chicago this year. I like Fields

1614
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 2: to the bottom. Those packs. The Vikings are the pack

1615
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: the pack maybe, I.

1616
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: Don't think they do go to the bottom.

1617
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1618
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 3: It's gonna finish the last in that divisions. Trading everybody

1619
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 3: in the middle of the season and just going full.

1620
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: Tank, well that would make a lot of sense. You know,

1621
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: like if the if the Lions didn't lose Jamison Williams

1622
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: for six games, I'd be even more bullish on them.

1623
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 2: And they had a weird draft, Yeah, weird, like they

1624
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: would had a normal draft and they didn't trade jame

1625
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: O Williams or Jameson Williams wasn't out, I would feel

1626
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: like more strongly about them. Yeah's that's that's. That division

1627
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: is kind of like Valctoria Summer School. It's a bad division, man,

1628
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: It's not. NFC is a joke over there. If we

1629
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: swapped packers, come here, we'll go there for a year.

1630
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 2: It's just trade. Yeah, you go fourteen and three.

1631
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 4: To the NFC South. We go. Speaking of bad divisions

1632
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 4: in football, picked the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will finish last

1633
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 4: in the NFC South and Mike Evans will end the

1634
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 4: season on a different team outside of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1635
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: Thing or not a thing.

1636
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 3: The bad division bad. I think Carolina is going to

1637
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 3: finish last, so I think.

1638
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 2: Atlanta could too.

1639
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: Man, they're going to be able to win some games

1640
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 3: with the way they play.

1641
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's too much talent here. I mean in a

1642
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: way though, it's kind of the worst thing that could

1643
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 2: happen to the buckst like if they go But.

1644
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 3: Does that doesn't that feel like a team that could

1645
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 3: trade its aging assets, like oh here, sure, take Mike Evans, Yes,

1646
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 3: take you know, Leavonte David, trade all those guys away?

1647
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, just it does. Yeah, the Saints, so sure.

1648
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody there believes that Baker or Kyle

1649
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 3: Trask is their their answer.

1650
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't think so, and I would think they

1651
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: would know that emphatically about track, Otherwise they would have

1652
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: brought in Baker. They brought in Baker gave the job,

1653
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 2: but they like gave him the job.

1654
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 3: Isn't it a competition?

1655
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,440
Speaker 2: It feels like it's It feels like that's really loosely.

1656
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 3: They posted both of them in the new unis they

1657
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 3: both got their.

1658
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: Own When you hear like what the players are saying,

1659
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 2: it feels like it's it hasn't been.

1660
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 3: Neither one of them is lit it up growing on air,

1661
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 3: nor will.

1662
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 4: They to the NFC West. The Arizona Cardinals will finish

1663
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 4: last thing. I didn't even say a thing or not

1664
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 4: a thing. They'll finish last thing. Yes, Jonathan Gannon will

1665
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,839
Speaker 4: last one season as the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

1666
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: Not a thing. I think the next part would be

1667
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 3: what I would say is the Arizona Cardinals will finish

1668
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: last thing. Kyler Murray will be the starting quarterback of

1669
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins.

1670
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: Does that happen in the season though? Do you trade

1671
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: him in the season?

1672
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, because one's he gonna be ready.

1673
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 2: I mean he's injured into the season, But like, would

1674
01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: you trade him?

1675
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 3: I could see him being the starting quarterback of the

1676
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders.

1677
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need I mean, he's a weapon. I

1678
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't want him in the AFC, Like I hope that

1679
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 2: we don't need any more quarterbacks in the AFC to

1680
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 2: teams that or That's the thing I'm going to say,

1681
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: A very possible thing for you on your first one

1682
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: with whoever the coach is. They're only lasting a year

1683
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 2: if you if they play this out the way that

1684
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 2: a lot of us think that it will and you're

1685
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: picking first and second, and Caleb Williams is generational at quarterback,

1686
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 2: and Marvin Harrison is the best receiver prospects since Randy Moss,

1687
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: which is what everybody is saying. If that is the case,

1688
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 2: that job becomes very you can go get That's a

1689
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 2: big job now all of a sudden, Like is that

1690
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: a job that?

1691
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 4: Like?

1692
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: Is that a job that Lincoln Riley would be like, Hey,

1693
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 2: we want a lot at sc I don't like nil

1694
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 2: and recruiting and I don't want to have to go

1695
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 2: play games built in Iowa.

1696
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: Sure goes down to Scottsdale.

1697
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 2: Well that'd be fine too. But I mean I think

1698
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: like quarterback guru guys that have been like waiting on

1699
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 2: the right job, right, that type of thing where you're like, hey,

1700
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: this guy's yeah, yeah, like like let's I don't want

1701
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: to deal with college football anymore. I would like an

1702
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 2: off season. Scottsdale is a great place to live. Now

1703
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm picking my quarterback and my receiver. Yeah, I'm good.

1704
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: So I like that Gibbie I go thing on that one.

1705
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 4: I'd be surprised though, Yeah, but they before with the

1706
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, they blew out it.

1707
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: If it plays out the way we're saying, you can

1708
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 2: almost get anybody you want. If Williams is what people

1709
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 2: says say he is or believe he is, like on

1710
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,520
Speaker 2: like that type of prospect.

1711
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 4: By the way, a little news from Adam Schefter. Wide

1712
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 4: receiver Denzel MIM's second round selection in twenty twenty with

1713
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 4: the Jets was informed he will be waived.

1714
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 3: If he is not traded. All right, I'd bring it.

1715
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 3: If you can do something something like simple, I'd certainly

1716
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: give him a look. Big talented receiver. Definitely think it's

1717
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 3: worth taking a peak. So all right, that's the thing

1718
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 3: or not a thing? Gents, Hi, good gentlemen to you.

1719
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, we'll play a little bit

1720
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet

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Speaker 7: Cleveland Open Championship tomorrow.

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01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: We ready, we ready, gentlemen, Where do I Sarly? It's

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01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 2: my favorite two it's my favorite.

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01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 4: I think it's ESPN, isn't it.

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01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're apping me in the morning.

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01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: I don't think so. They usually get the Open. I don't.

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01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: Here's what I already don't like about what I've seen

1732
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 3: from the setup and all that. I don't mind the

1733
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 3: rough and I don't that's all great.

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01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: I like it.

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01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 4: You got it.

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01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 3: It's straight in course out of bounds. That's like ten

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01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 3: yards off the eighteenth fairway.

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01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like that. You can I guess

1739
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: that's there. You can hit it, that's there. That's the

1740
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: club rules there though? Is that the deal? I saw

1741
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 2: them talking about that yesterday. Golf esn't understand why.

1742
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: It would be there.

1743
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't know either.

1744
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 4: All right, here we go.

1745
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: In course out of bounds is my least favorite thing

1746
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 3: of golf. If you're on the never even see that.

1747
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: And you hit the ball and can hit it again,

1748
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 3: you should be able to hit it again.

1749
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 4: Same twenty twenty three Open Championship TV schedule YEP. Tomorrow

1751
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 4: coverage starts at four am on USA.

1752
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: Oh, they're okay, so that's I got to figure out

1753
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: where that is?

1754
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:56,440
Speaker 4: Same on Friday, USA USA has everything on Thursday and Friday.

1756
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: All of it, all of it. So this is an

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01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: NBC production. Then this is a Comcast.

1758
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 4: Production, which is weird because it used to be ESPN.

1759
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: It was and then when they they lost it, NBC

1760
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: was out of the mix for a minute because uh,

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01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: NBC was ABC. Actually I'm sorry, ABC was out of

1762
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: the mix because Fox got the US Open and moved everything,

1763
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: and that moved everything. Then NBC Panicton got the the

1764
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 2: Open and then in ESPN was then they had like

1765
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: the day parts for Thursday, Friday, the Masters, but that's it.

1766
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 2: And then Fox was basically like, yeah, we're not good

1767
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: at golf, so if you want to trade us back,

1768
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: we'll trade back. And they're like, yeah, that literally is

1769
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 2: what happened. They're they're like, we sucked at it, we

1770
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 2: acknowledge it, or were out. They were horrific. And then

1771
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 2: and so they gave it to NBC, went got back

1772
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: to the US Open, which is they always had with

1773
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 2: Johnny Miller and all those guys, and then NBC still

1774
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: had they still had the Open. Ironically, that was always

1775
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: Tariko calling it and now he's calling it still because

1776
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: he's now with Golf and NBC I imagine Hicks will

1777
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: be involved too, probably, but I'm pretty sure Faldo's calling

1778
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 2: it okay because he's basically he doesn't he's not at

1779
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: CBS anymore and he did it for BBC last year,

1780
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure he's He's on the call at

1781
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: the at the Open with NBC.

1782
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 4: Well, coverage starts Saturday at five am and then it

1783
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 4: goes back to four.

1784
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: Am on on Sunday Sunday. Yeah, yeah, I love it.

1785
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: It's my favorite in USA.

1786
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 4: I'll split time then.

1787
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is one of those ones where they do

1788
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 2: this is the one Tiger won at in like six

1789
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 2: and didn't hit driver. He hit all irons off of

1790
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: every tee and it was there. They were talking about

1791
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 2: the video of it. It was the course was so

1792
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 2: brown and hard that it rolled forever. But they apparently

1793
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 2: they've had a bunch of rain this week, so it's

1794
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 2: going to be soft.

1795
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be soft.

1796
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

1797
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 4: Calling the championship.

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1799
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 4: Mike Turrico is your host and play by play Dan Hicks,

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01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 4: play by play Terry Gannon Steve Sands also play by way.

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01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 4: Good for Sansey analysts include Paul Easinger, Brad faxon Paul

1802
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 4: McGinley and Sir Nick Faldo.

1803
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: So Faldo will be probably with Tarrico on eighteen, would

1804
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: be my guess, or maybe with Hicks.

1805
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 4: Up in the towers, Kurt Byrom and Brad faxon on

1806
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 4: the course. John Wood noa bega, not.

1807
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 2: To tigers, buddy.

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01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 3: He had a putter that he could put left handed

1809
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 3: and right handed with, and so he would put based on.

1810
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 3: He never wanted hit on the slow flights putts. He

1811
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 3: always wanted to hit hook putts. So that's right to

1812
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 3: put right.

1813
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 4: And I've seen a wedge like that. I saw a

1814
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 4: wedge like that earlier this year. I thought about buying.

1815
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 3: It the chipper.

1816
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: Yes, case case you want to hit it left hand.

1817
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 4: This is good.

1818
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're getting full coverage here. I like the way.

1819
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: That's good. So there's no app or not an app.

1820
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 3: You could if you wanted to app. You could app

1821
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: on Peacock. But you got us A U S A.

1822
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 4: And then I'll be driving Friday. I'll have it on

1823
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 4: the serious.

1824
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they have.

1825
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 4: I like the radio coverage when they when Westwood one

1826
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 4: does it, it's really good.

1827
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 2: I like you like when old when Peter Allis would

1828
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 2: show if you that's what I need.

1829
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 3: That's the open.

1830
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: I like that guy in the mix. I like the

1831
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 2: wind and the rain, and I like all of it.

1832
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: Scheffler was complaining that his beef with it was that

1833
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: at a lot of these places, he said, basically what

1834
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 2: you said that. Look, I'm all for I'm all for bunkers,

1835
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm all for this, but it feels like here the

1836
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: bunkers have no slope like all the other places, he said,

1837
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: they've they've played the open. Uh, there's a slope up

1838
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: to the back face, and here it feels like if

1839
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 2: you hit a bunker, it rolls all the way to

1840
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 2: the face. Yeah, and so you have no space to

1841
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 2: hit out of the hit out. So they are truly punitive.

1842
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 3: Scheffler is on one of the craziest ball striking runs,

1843
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 3: I think that we've ever seen in our.

1844
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: What would you describe this, because he's basically number one

1845
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:44,839
Speaker 2: tee to Green.

1846
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 3: And he's dead last and putting, and he's still like,

1847
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 3: isn't he been top twelve and like thirteen straight tournaments

1848
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 3: or something crazy like.

1849
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's even better. And Rory's like this too.

1850
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: Rory's in this vicinity where he's ridiculous off the tee

1851
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: and then he never he can't make it. He's like

1852
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: like last putting right Scheffler? Yes, yeah, what would What

1853
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 2: is this? What is the football equivalent to Scheffler where

1854
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 2: you're the best player? Is it like the best player

1855
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 2: but you can't score?

1856
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 3: I don't think there is.

1857
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:15,839
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's no analogy.

1858
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 3: For analogy, it'd be a quarterback that was great and

1859
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 3: then couldn't finish drives.

1860
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: Or like it couldn't complete touchdowns in the end zone,

1861
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: but the team still scored. Yeah, I guess, I guess.

1862
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,560
Speaker 2: I mean it's a stretch. There's nothing for it in

1863
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: any other sport.

1864
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 4: Who wins He's been winning the Scottish show.

1865
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 2: But I don't think no, even though he's playing lights out.

1866
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 3: He's been in nineteen events this year. He's made he's

1867
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 3: been top twenty five and eighteen and nineteen, made all

1868
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 3: nineteen cuts. He has two wins, a second place finish,

1869
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 3: and he's been a top ten in fifteen of nineteen

1870
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 3: tournaments this year. And he is last on the tour

1871
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: in putting like that is does he have a well,

1872
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to do it. He is

1873
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 3: he has he has two wins. He's okay off the

1874
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 3: te he's first approach to green first. This is just

1875
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 3: in strokes gain.

1876
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh, strokes gained off the t okay.

1877
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 3: First, and off the tea first, in approach to green first,

1878
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 3: and t to green first. In total and then he

1879
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: is last in putting.

1880
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: Isn't that something?

1881
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 3: He's third in total driving nineteenth and distance thirty ninth

1882
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: in accuracy, first in greens and rate hits seventy five

1883
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 3: percent of greens. He is a proximity nineteenth approached inside

1884
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 3: two hundred yards a greater than two yards seventy fifth. Scrambling,

1885
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 3: he's fifth. He's bat out of sand, scrambling from the rough.

1886
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 3: He's sixth. Putting average, he's just not. His one putt

1887
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 3: percentage is one hundred and seventy fourth, which is last. Yeah,

1888
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 3: but his scoring averages first. His birdy average is third.

1889
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's just nuts. It's just nuts.

1890
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 4: So who do you like?

1891
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: Here's a here's one for you. I mean, ball strikers

1892
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: win to fight over there if I gave you live

1893
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 2: or PGA guys, who do you want? So you're getting

1894
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 2: Kopka DJ cam Smith.

1895
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, defending champ Yeah, those would be.

1896
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Your your big who am I missing from a horses

1897
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 2: on the live? Who would be somebody who would be

1898
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 2: in the mix? The reigning champion, I said, Pam Smith,

1899
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: I said Brooks, I said DJ would be the three

1900
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 2: that would you have?

1901
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 3: Rory Scheffler.

1902
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: Rory Scheffler, Fowlers played great for all summer.

1903
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 4: It's awesome. I'd love to see Follower in the mix

1904
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 4: on Sunday Morning.

1905
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: So you like the live guys beating the PGA guy,

1906
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: a live golfer beating or versus guys.

1907
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 3: Aren't most of the and most of the European guys

1908
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 3: are on live.

1909
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question though, I mean, so you're

1910
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 2: gonna get You're getting Rory Scheffler, Speith, Justin Thomas hasn't

1911
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 2: played well all summer. No, it's really struggled. Ricky's played great.

1912
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 3: Speith has been fine.

1913
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: You got Ram Johnny Ram, I like the you get

1914
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 2: rom with the tour guys. I think I think I'm

1915
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 2: going tour guys guys. I'll roll tour guys on that

1916
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: I talk. It's like five guys that I could see

1917
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 2: winning it. Yeah, and there's probably from the from the live,

1918
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 2: there's probably three, but there's people I'm not remembering either.

1919
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 3: Hey, do you want to let me pull up real quick?

1920
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 4: Let's do it. So much more to come?

1921
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 3: Oh man, already there you were.

1922
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 2: There so much more to come, including a list of

1923
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 2: true contenders Cleveland Rounds eight fifty esp IN Cleveland.

1924
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett coming

1925
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1926
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: All right, here, you're here are the best? Uh here

1927
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: the favorites. Rory Scheffler, Rahm are the first three favorites.

1928
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: They're all pg A, Koepka, Cam can't lay is he

1929
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 2: pg A?

1930
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1931
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 2: I can't remember Hoveland. Do you know about Hoveland? Does

1932
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 2: he PGA? Or is he lived? He feels like live

1933
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 2: to me more Cow's PGA, Fowlers PGA. Fleetwood feels like

1934
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: live live. Hatton feels like I don't know. Shofley's PGA Leander.

1935
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: I believe so Dustin Johnson live. I mean they're all

1936
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 2: going to be the same speeth is PGA is the

1937
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: right way to go?

1938
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1939
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: Now yeah, unless you love like Keepker cam Smith more

1940
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: than you love rom Chef. The PGA tour all right,

1941
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: so PGA is definitely the correct choice. Yes, because like

1942
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: eight of the top ten or our PGA RPGA.

1943
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 3: Guys to go, So it's gonna be fun. I love

1944
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 3: the Open, I do too.

1945
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 2: The last two guys to win here were Tiger and Rory,

1946
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 2: so it's heavy hitters, Yeah, that win here at this place.

1947
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 2: So this this will be a lot of fun. Enjoy

1948
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1949
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1953
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