1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, I'm welcome to 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles t. W Chuck 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Bryant and uh where Stuff you Should Know Crew with 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: the Juice Crew, Big Daddy Kane. I'm Big Daddy Kane. 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: All right, I'm Biz Markie. I'll take it. You're red 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: headed King Pim. Yes, okay, you don't remember that guy. No. Sorry, 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: we're still talking about our music sampling podcast, which we 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: just recorded. Instead, we're gonna talk about something else, something 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: called diamonds. I kind of hate diamonds. Now, by the way, 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: do you this is this article is? Yeah? Well I 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: thought it was good, but after reading all this stuff, 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's just a big false market. Well, 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: i mean, they're still pretty, but yeah, they have a 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: lot of they got a lot of problems, all right, Chuck. Yes, 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: have you ever heard of a magazine called The Atlantic? Yeah? 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: I used to get that. Have you ever heard of 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: a year called nine eight two? Okay, well, in nineteen 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: eighty two, in that magazine, The Atlantic didn't. I didn't either. 21 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: I was six. I wasn't reading The Atlantic yet. I 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: came when I was ten. Um. In nineteen two, a 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: guy named ever j Epstein wrote an article for The 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: Atlantic called have You ever Tried to Sell the Diamond? 25 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: And I got this from Neto Rama by the way, um. 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: And in the in the article he wrote about someone 27 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 1: else who who conducted an experiment to try to find 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: out what's going on with the aftermarket for diamonds. Right. 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: So this guy for magazine called Money, which magazine I 30 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: don't understand the name at all. Um. In nineteen seventy Uh, 31 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the guy bought a one point four two carrot diamond 32 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: for seven five pounds. That's a pretty good deal these days, 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: but back then I would say it was an average price. Right. 34 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: So he waits for a year to allow it to appreciate, 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: because supposedly diamonds appreciate in value, right, And then he 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: takes it around to all of the gem dealers in 37 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: London and the highest offer he got for what he 38 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: paid the year before seven pounds was five d sixty 39 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: eight pounds. So he's like, huh, I want to figure 40 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: out what maybe if I let it appreciate a little longer, 41 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: it will work. And this guy obviously had other freelance 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: work in the meantime, because he waited until nineteen seventy 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: four and did it again. This time he finds out 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: that his diamond shrunk from one point four two carrots 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: to one point oh four carets because one of the 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: dealers switched the diamond out on him when he was 47 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: having it a praise V one. That's not even the worst. 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: The guy buys another diamond one point four carrots, right, 49 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: takes it around. He buys it for two thousand pounds 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: in four I think, Um, he waited a week, it 51 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: took it around, and the highest offergot was a thousand 52 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: pounds hemorrhaging money. Right. But the point is is the 53 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: reason why these things are like cadillacs the moment you 54 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: drive them off a lot and they never come back 55 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: and value is because there is no aftermarket. And the 56 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: reason that there is no aftermarket for for diamonds is 57 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: because of one single diamond cartel and their advertising campaigns 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: to beers um, which we'll talk about in this But 59 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot more to diamonds than just all the 60 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: shady business. The monopolies and the cartels and the artificial 61 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: markets created. There is billions of years of history. One 62 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: of the cool things about a diamond is that when 63 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: you're wearing this, when looking at a diamond holding it, 64 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: you're beholding possibly a mineral that's that was created a 65 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: billion years ago. That is cool, very cool. I love that, 66 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: and I very much appreciate the craftsmanship what goes into 67 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: making a diamond in its final form, because, as every 68 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: kid knows, diamonds are as hard as it kids supposedly, 69 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: and they're a girl's best friend. That's another thing too. 70 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of slogans around diamonds, all created by 71 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: the beers. Let's let's talk about diamonds. Where are they 72 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: made of? Because they're so expensive, it must be made 73 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: up of like kryptonite and um in diamond and yeah, 74 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: in diamonds, no, Josh, you know you're benkoy. They are 75 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: made of carbon. It is basically carbon, and it's most 76 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: concentrated form. And carbon is a pretty common elements, one 77 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: of the four essential ingredients to life. We breathe it. 78 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: We're made up of carbon. Pencils are like at least 79 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: sixty carbon uh, and diamonds if you want to get 80 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: down to brass, acts are not rare at all. Um. 81 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: There are many many more precious gems that are much 82 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: rarer than diamonds, including some types of diamonds. Colored diamonds 83 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: what we're mainly talking about, and this one is transparent 84 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: diamonds typical like white diamonds. But yeah, colored diamond and 85 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: naturally colored diamond is nice. So um ice, let's call 86 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: it ice? Yeah? Or bling? Do you remember when bling 87 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: used to be called bling bling? Like there were two 88 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: blings bling bling? No? Did they just shorten it to 89 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: one bling at some point? Who's they? Who decides the stuff? 90 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: Mtvay Urban Dictionary. Yeah? Um, so you've got carbon. It's 91 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: pretty uh, pretty ubiquitous, Yes, very abundant. It naturally occurs 92 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: in three forms, right, graphite, diamond fairly soft, diamond, very hard, 93 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: and then fullerite John fullerite, which is uh. It's a 94 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: mineral made of per quickly spherical molecules of exactly sixty 95 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: carbon atoms, and it was only recently discovered and supposedly 96 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: diamonds are no longer the strongest um mineral. Somebody synthetically 97 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: figured out how to um combine fuller right, into and 98 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: know something else and it's like eleven harder than diamonds 99 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: on the most depth scale. Sorry, by that that sampling 100 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: episode really had an effect the rest of the day. 101 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: Then it's carrying over UM diamonds. Uh So basically, if 102 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: you have graphite, you have a misformed diamond. Is one 103 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: way to look at it. Diamonds form under very specific 104 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: conditions UM that are found typically about a hundred miles 105 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: or a hundred and sixty one kilometers beneath the Earth's 106 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: surface in the mantle. As long as temperatures are above 107 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: four I'm sorry, as long as temperatures are seven hundred 108 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: and fifty two degrees fahrenheit four hundred degrees saleseness UM, 109 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: and there's at least four hundred and thirty five thousand, 110 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen pounds per square inch of pressure, 111 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: you will form diamond when there's carbon, and carbon will 112 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: make a diamond. If either of those two things are 113 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: not met, you're gonna get graphite. Right. So these diamonds 114 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: that we're looking at today, like we said, reformed like 115 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: fifty million, hundred millions up to billions of years ago 116 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: under these conditions, and UM more recently say I think 117 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: twenty million, between twenty million and one point one billion 118 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: years ago, heavy magma um eruptions that are about three 119 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: times from depths, about three times that that blew up 120 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Mount St. Helen. Um pushed diamonds towards the surface and 121 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: form what are called kimberlight pipes. Magma is one of 122 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: my favorite works, by the way, I don't know why. 123 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And basically they act as like an elevator 124 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: and they pushed the diamonds and other stuff up through 125 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: the mantle. Happened very quickly, over a matter of hours. 126 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: And but it's all underground, so it's not like it 127 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: wasn't like a mounta Saint Helens. It's still impressive. It's 128 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: very impressive. Um. The magma cooled inside the pipes and 129 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: left behind these veins of kimber light rock, and that's 130 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: where the diamonds are, right, and kimber lights bluish and 131 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: I guess the diamonds are inside the kimber light. Yeah. 132 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: I looked up kimber light and that's what it looked like. 133 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: It looked like a big bluish rock with spots of crystals, right, 134 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: and you crack that open, you have raw diamonds. That's right. Uh, 135 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: that's not the only place you can find diamonds, though. 136 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: You can find them alluvial diamond sits or river beds 137 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: that were originally they all came from from the mantle, 138 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: but they get pushed around by things like glaciers and 139 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: water and they can end up thousands of miles from 140 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: where they started. Those are called alluvial diamond sights. That's yeah. 141 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Did you say that that did? Are you sure? I'm 142 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: positive I don't think you did. Um. Diamonds, like you said, 143 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: they're not as rare as they have been artificially made 144 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: to be. They can be found all over the world. Um. 145 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Some of the major sites are in Russia, Borneo, Australia, Canada, Brazil, Venezuela, Canada. Yeah, 146 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, um. And they're often found in 147 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: these things called archie and cratons in the center of 148 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: a continent. Well, Africa too, we gotta say Africa. Oh yeah, 149 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: it's Africa's huge. I think come from Africa for sure. 150 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: I can't believe I left that out. And that's right, um. 151 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: But if you you're more likely to find diamonds in 152 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: the center of the continent, and these things called archaean cratons, 153 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: cratons and archie and craton is basically a horizontal piece 154 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: of earth that is kind of relatively immune to geological 155 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: events like earthquakes and tech tonic movement and all that. 156 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: And this is usually a pretty good site to find diamonds. Yeah, 157 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: it says here they've they're found in the center of 158 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: most of the seven continents, six of them. Yeah, Like, 159 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: why don't they just say there's only seven things. I 160 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Okay, Um, 161 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: when they find diamonds, Josh, they're rough. Have you ever 162 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: seen a big rough diamond stone? It's crystal on TV? Yeah, 163 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like much. It looks like a crystal 164 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: like that you would dig up from the earth. There's 165 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: like yeah, um, but you have to process it, um 166 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: obviously by by carbon the sucker up and then making 167 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: it pretty and then making it shiny, right, which is 168 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: quite get specifically into that, but that's that's the base basics. Well, 169 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: you said, um, that's one of the things you like 170 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: about diamonds is the cristmanship. Yeah, and it takes a while. 171 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: You want to talk about it, all right, Cutting diamonds Josh, 172 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: which again, this is not the easiest thing in the 173 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: world to do, and it takes special tape nicks. Like cleaving. Yeah, 174 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: this is my favorite cleaving is when they they take 175 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: the diamond as it is weak, it's point, which is 176 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: the tetrahedral plane. We'll talk about that in a second. 177 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: Oh you know about that because I looked it up 178 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: and I can only come to guesses about what that is. Oh, well, 179 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what the plane is, but I know, 180 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: I just figured it was the point where the well, 181 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know, so sort of assumed it 182 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: was where that there were fewer links of the atoms. Yeah, 183 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: I think like so the lattice, the lattice um connection 184 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: between carbon atoms and the diamond is what makes it strong. 185 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: So each carbon atom is connected to four others instead 186 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: of just one. It's like the the five side of 187 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: a dice of a die. Right, I connect all those 188 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and you have your You're on your way to forming 189 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: a diamond. Whereas with carbon or graphite um, the five 190 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: are connected in a ring, so one's only connected to 191 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: one other one, which is why it's weaker. Right, But 192 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: if you look, if you kind of plot out um 193 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: a tetrahedral um lattice work of carbon atoms. If you 194 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: go straight across, there's a point where each of them 195 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: where you're only cutting through one atom at the time, 196 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: there's only one connection. Yeah, that's gotta be it. Then, 197 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: that's what I would think it is. That's my guess. 198 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: I think you're right, Josh. So they find this tetrahedral 199 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: plane where it's weakest, and they hold the diamond in 200 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: like cement or wax or something. They cut a little 201 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: groove and then they put a steel blade in that 202 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: groove and in one big whack they cleave this sucker 203 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: into two pieces. And I'll bet that is nerve wracking work. 204 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't find a video of it. Oh yeah, I 205 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: could imagine it's probably pretty well guarded. I mean I 206 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: saw an old video from like old black and white thing, 207 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: but it was I don't know if there was a 208 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: new method now or whatever. Uh. Then, Uh, sometimes you 209 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: can't just cleave it. Sometimes there's no plane of weakness 210 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: and you have to saw it. And there's probably always 211 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: a plane of weakness in the diamond. But for the 212 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: angle that you're trying to get too, I imagine that 213 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: there's not necessarily going you you can't find that tetrahedral plane. Yeah, 214 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: because you're cutting it in specific places for a reason. 215 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: You're not just like, hey, let me cut the sucker 216 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: in two. You're cutting it very specifically for what you 217 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: want the end result to be, whether it's I want 218 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: to get five different cut diamonds out of this single 219 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: rock or whatever. Yeah, And you need to think like 220 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: that many steps ahead. And for each diamond, you the 221 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: first thing you do is figure out where the table is, 222 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: which is the top of the diamond. It's the most 223 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: exposed surface area. And then you figure out what the 224 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: girdle is and that is the part of the diamond 225 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: with the largest diameter. Um. And once you once you 226 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: established those two things and everything else, it just makes 227 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: sense because there's just a certain way to cut diamonds 228 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: and can go crazy make like a squirrel. Diamonds are 229 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: shaped like diamonds exactly. That interesting. Yeah. Um, So you've 230 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: got you've got cleaving, you've got sawing and sawing. You're 231 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: using a special tool called the phosphor bronze blade. That rope, 232 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: it's a RPMs. I did see this online. That's crazy. 233 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. Um, you can also use a laser, 234 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: but that takes forever. Um. Yeah, I got the feeling 235 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: lasers aren't really the way to go, which is surprising. 236 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: I thought it'd be like whoop, yeah exactly. You know, 237 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: I've seen seen James Bond movies. Lasers can you all 238 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: sorts of cool stuff? Uh, if you want to shape 239 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: your diamond, which you will want to do if you 240 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: ever want to sell it. Um, if it's one of 241 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: the lucky of diamonds, because I think it's only that 242 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: actually make it to market. Oh is it that? Yeah, 243 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: used for like sol blades and other industrial uses, embraces, embraces, Yeah, 244 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: diamond dust bowls, racis, pianos. Brooding or cutting gives the 245 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: diamond the shape, and brooding is when you do it 246 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: by hand, and cutting is when you use a machine. 247 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: And I couldn't find out how many diamonds are hand cut, 248 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: like percentage wise. I'm curious about that. I don't know 249 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: if it's a lost art or if that just means 250 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: it's a higher quality because it's handcut. Do you know, No, 251 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't. Both of them seem to use uh a 252 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: lot of human intervention though. Brooding and cutting and other 253 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: diamonds to brooding is kind of like taking two pipes, 254 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: filling them with cement and then putting a diamond in 255 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: it so that there's just a little bit sticking out 256 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: and then rubbing him together using a diamond to cut 257 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: of diamond, which is the only thing you can cut 258 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: a diamond with. Do you want to talk about the 259 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: most scale real quick? Yeah, because you can only cut 260 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: a diamond the diamond because as we said, UM, it's 261 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: pretty much the hardest substance on Earth, right, anything but 262 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: beneath that is not going to scratch it. And there's 263 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: actually um a scale to uh describe the strength of 264 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: um minerals by a guy named Friedrich Mose. Yeah, the 265 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Mose Hardness scale. Yeah, and he was a German mineral 266 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: mineral ologists, mineralogist jee man from the thirties. I think 267 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: who created this scale goes from one to ten or 268 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: although you said now eleven, I guess it goes to eleven. Well, 269 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: it's eleven percent harder than diamond, so it's got to 270 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: be above diamond, right, it's gotta be above diamond level. 271 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Platinum level. We start out with talc. You can scratch 272 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: talk with your fingernail it's such a wimpy little thing. 273 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Gypsum you can scratch with your fingernail barely calcite. You 274 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: can scratch it with a copper coin and it scratches 275 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: a copper coin, okay, which is a measurement. And it's 276 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: quite a duel. Yeah, I'll get you yoursite versus copper fluora. 277 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: You cannot get scratched by copper coin. And it does 278 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: not scratch glass. It just kind of sits there. Yeah, 279 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: doing this thing. Um appetite. I think it is appetite. 280 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: Appetite either way, I'm hungry. Um. It scratches glass sort of, 281 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: or just scratches glass, and it's easily scratched by a knife. 282 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I remember when I was a kid, I didn't understand 283 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: what the word barely meant. And I was playing kick 284 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: ball in one of like the older kids. Is like, man, 285 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: just go out there and just barely kicked the ball, 286 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: and he's telling me to bunt. Basically he kicked it 287 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: like a bear would. No, I thought, barely meant like 288 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: to just just barely miss it, not just barely make 289 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: contact with something. So I kept going out there and 290 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: like just perfectly barely missing it, and the kid was 291 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: going crazy. I'm like, I don't understand you. You're in 292 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: my yard. Go home? Is that your excuse for why 293 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I struck out a kickball growing up? I struck out 294 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: at t ball even Yeah, and like they give you 295 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: like six strikes and they still would be like ghost, 296 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: sit down, Josh. That makes me feel bad. Um Ortho 297 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: Clays Josh is number six, um quartz is number seven. 298 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: Then you got topaz, correndum, courrond, dumber is like sapphires 299 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: and rubies, and then the diamond and that is the 300 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: most hardness scale and um so as you can see, 301 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: since diamonds the last because the most scale hasn't been updated. 302 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: Uh the you have to use a diamond to cut 303 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: a dime, which some of those the industrial uses of 304 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: diamonds is diamond cutting tools. Yeah. I have a diamond 305 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: sal blade, nuts be rolling in it. I'm loaded, dude. 306 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: It also has diamonds just bedazzled all over the saw itself. 307 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: Uh So, we talked about brooding and then cutting. You 308 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: would use a lathe, which is something that spins it 309 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: around very fast. That's one of my favorite words. Lathe. 310 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: I used to work with the wood lathe back in 311 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: the day, a lot of fun and then you want 312 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: to polish it if you want to. By the way, 313 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: there's only five major cutting centers in the world. Yeah, Like, 314 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get your diamonds cut, they get shipped 315 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: to New York, Bombay, Israel, Antwerp, or Johannesburg generally Johannesburg 316 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: either way. So, like I said, you want to polish 317 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: it because you want it all shiny and pretty, and uh, 318 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: it's a polishing wheel coated with once again diamond powder. 319 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: Are you starting to see a pattern here? Diamonds cut diamonds. Um. So, 320 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: once you once your diamonds cut and you say, hey, 321 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: this is pretty good diamond, I'm going to try to 322 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: sell it to somebody for you know, too much money, 323 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: right exactly. Um. One of the things that you're going 324 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: to use to describe this diamond and increase its value 325 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: are the four seas. Right, You've got cut, clarity, carrot, 326 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: and color. And we'll start with cut. So basically cut 327 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: is how well the diamonds cut and what shape it's 328 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: cut in. There's all sorts of different cuts, including the 329 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: most confusing of all, the emerald cut diamond UM, and 330 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: the one we're referring to initially was I think just 331 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: the round cut. That's like the standard diamond shape. So 332 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: you got cut right, you have clarity and that measures UM. 333 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: The diamonds natural flaws, so um you have the flaws 334 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: are also called inclusions, and you have a flawless down 335 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: to slightly included in between you have very very slight, 336 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: very slight and then slightly and then there's different degrees 337 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: of that like vs one VVS two s I two, 338 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: and it just keeps going until you're like you need 339 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: to we'll use this as as a sol blade. I 340 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: like a little flaw in my diamond. Well, that's nice, Chuck. 341 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: That just shows what kind of guy I am. That's 342 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: also a way that diamonds are catalog like a specific 343 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: diamond is cataloged and tract is by its inclusions because 344 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: they're frequently for for diamonds, they're solding as gem stones there. 345 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: The flaws are so infrequent that they're almost like um birthmarks, right, 346 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: They're they're birth marks for diamonds. Uh. Carrot Josh is 347 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: the third scene, and that is the weight a carrot 348 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: is about two d milligrams, right, and that actually came 349 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: out of India. Um. The carib seed was used as 350 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: a weight for um for diamonds, and that be and 351 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: carrot instead of ca. And then you've got color, and 352 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about transparent diamonds. So basically what you've got 353 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: is totally colorless, which means it's a carbon. There's no 354 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: other mineral or element in this diamond um all the 355 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: way to h a light yellow and that's ranked but 356 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: from d diz so weird. I've never understood that. I 357 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot I don't understand about diamonds. 358 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: And then you also have transparency, luster, and dispersion of light. Fire, yeah, fire, 359 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: that's right, fire. I think brilliance and then the other 360 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: word for it, probably and that's all dispersion of light. Yeah, 361 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: I think virus, which is means you can see different 362 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, when you hold it up to light, you 363 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: see different colors, and it's like the discobalt quality of 364 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: the diamond exactly. Um. So we we also mentioned that 365 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: the truly rare diamonds are colored ones and they come 366 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: in like a rainbow of expense tons. Yeah, there's black diamonds, 367 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: there's yellow diamonds. Even though transparent diamonds go down to 368 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: light yellow. Those aren't yellow diamonds. Yellow diamonds, yellow diamond 369 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: They're awesome. Um, you've got pale green, pink pinker popular 370 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: with rich people. What I've seen they go with. I 371 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: think j Lo had a big pink diamond from one 372 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: of her husbands. Is that right? I think so? I don't. 373 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: I don't know why I knew that. You benefit. You 374 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: know how things get caught up in your brain that 375 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: should not be there, and then you can't forget it 376 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: no matter what. Now you'll always remember that. M hold on, 377 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting rid of it right now. Shoot, donkey eating 378 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: grass and done. Okay. Um, so let's talk about the 379 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: history and why diamonds are. I haven't always been so 380 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: popular with the Americans. Um, they were not always a 381 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: an engagement ring. No. Before that, it was like colored 382 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: Joe stone, like a nice looking ruby. Yeah, well, why 383 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't you give that to somebody? You like to look 384 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: at it? It's gorgeous. And then the Beers came about. 385 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: That's right. De Beers is a cartel. If you don't 386 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: know what, a cartel is founded by a Mr Rhodes, 387 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: who um Rhodesia is named after, and the Rhodes scholarship, 388 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: and the Beers is the family name of the people 389 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: whose farm he bought initially in South Africa. If you 390 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: don't know what a cartel is, it is a syndicate 391 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: of competing firms that all gets together and says, hey, 392 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: let's fix prices on all our stuff, create a monopoly 393 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: and let's run the show. Yes, and that's what De 394 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Beers is. It is a consult De Beers Consolidated Minds 395 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: Ltd pretty much says it all. It's the all the 396 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: different uh well, not all. Up until like two thousand 397 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: it was mostly all Yeah. I think that's something like 398 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: of all the diamonds are controlled by them. They produced 399 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: he used to be, but they also go around and 400 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: buy up diamonds from the market and sit on them 401 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: and then every year through these things called um sites. 402 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: I think the sales because there's only two people, are 403 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: groups that are licensed to buy from the Beers and 404 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: they have like I think ten sales a year where 405 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: they say you're you. Two hundred people are are allowed 406 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: to come buy diamonds from us. And they so tightly 407 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: control the market that they control the price of diamonds, 408 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: and that's why diamonds are so expensive ten weeks out 409 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: of the year. That's it, is it, right? And they 410 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: could buy in packages from I think like one to 411 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: two million or something like that of uncut diamonds and 412 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: then the site holders take them to go get created 413 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: by people who cleave. That's right. Uh. And in two 414 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: thousand um I said that their monopoly sort of ended. 415 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Um Russia, Canada, Australia basically said enough of this and 416 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: they went outside to beers, and that in really ended 417 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: their big monopoly, although they still what is it, half 418 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: the world diamond supply and they control about two thirds 419 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: of the whole world market, right, but it used to 420 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: be close to how did they do this, Chuck? How 421 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: does the company do this? I mean obviously by buying diamonds, 422 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: but how did they take the diamond and make it 423 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: the this precious sowed after Gemstone. Well, when you control supply, 424 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: obviously you can say it's rare. But then they did 425 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: it through clever marketing. Basically, as about all there was 426 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: to it. Diamond diamond is Forever in the nineteen forties 427 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: was voted in two thousand as the ad campaign slogan 428 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: of the twentieth century. That's pretty big. That's huge. And 429 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: that that basically sold the American public and Japan. Japan 430 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: in the sixties America in the late forties sold them 431 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: on the fact that a diamond was, uh what you 432 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: needed to save up two months salary for and uh 433 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: and spend on your wife for her engagement right or 434 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: on your fiance right. Um. And then following that the 435 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: beers said, hey, we should get rid of the aftermarket. 436 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: And they said, by the way, that diamond you bought 437 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: is an engagement, that's a family heirloom. You want to 438 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: hang on to that, which keeps diamonds off of the market. 439 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: And it's what's so, this is why I said I 440 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: don't like diamonds. It's just none of it was true. Yeah. 441 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: It was just a cartel that got together and said 442 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna snow the American and Japanese public on the 443 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: fact that these are really rare, precious gems, when they 444 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: should have just said, you know what, we've got lots 445 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: of diamonds actually and appreciate the craftsmanship and pay a 446 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: decent price for it and everyone's happy. It doesn't sound 447 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: like something the beers would say. Um. So, in addition 448 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: to the fact that the industry is virtually controlled by 449 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: a cartel. Um diamonds also have. They routinely get bad 450 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: pressed for um conflict diamonds blood diamonds, which are essentially 451 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: diamonds that are mined illegally to fund as far as UM. 452 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: The people who oversee such things rebel groups there are 453 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: that seek to destabilize legitimate governments. Right, yeah, we have 454 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: a whole article on that. I think, Yeah, I think 455 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: our blood diamond's making a comeback, comeback or something. Yeah. Um, 456 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: So they've come up with this thing called the the 457 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: what is it, the Kimberly the Kimberly process certification scheme 458 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: and scheme. And I hate it when they use scheme 459 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: like that, even though it's correct, it always sounds bad 460 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: and the use words scheme, but it's really just a plan. 461 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: And they call it the Kimberly Process. The u N 462 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: and the Conflict Free Diamond Council got together to basically 463 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: monitor the diamond at every point of its production process, 464 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: so they know basically the birth certificate of the diamond 465 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: all the way through to the until it's on the 466 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: little ladies finger. So supposedly that's what's supposed to happen, 467 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: but really, what the Kimberly Um. The Kimberley process entails 468 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: now is getting governments to control their imports and exports 469 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: of diamonds and certify them. So like if you are 470 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: shipping a certification or a bunch of diamonds that each 471 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: in each diamond doesn't have a certification, you can't get 472 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: the shipment. Um. You're supposed to package them in tamper 473 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: free UM or tamper proof uh containers, So people can't 474 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: slip blood diamonds into these shipments mid shipment. Yeah, that 475 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: makes sense, um, But the problem is what you were saying, 476 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: like they control every aspect. That's not true, cutting, polishing, um, 477 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: all of these things aren't overseen. Yeah, which leads to 478 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: a lot of possibility. You can introduce blood diamonds at 479 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: the beginning of this stream and they just become bona 480 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: fide through a shipment. So when the u N says 481 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: that they're ninety nine point eight percent of diamonds now 482 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: and market are conflict free, is that not Also the 483 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: other criticism of the Kimberly processes, it depends on your 484 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: your definition of conflicts. The u N and the Kimberly 485 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: scheme people well are basically saying it's a rebel group 486 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: that can produce a blood diamond and this is a 487 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: this is a human rights organization above all else. But 488 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: they're turning a blind eye to human rights abuses by 489 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: these legitimate governments like Robert Mugabe's um government of Zimbabwe. 490 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: Hugo Chavez apparently his government in Venezuela has some human 491 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: right abuses regarding diamonds, but these are still considered legitimate diamonds, 492 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: not blood diamonds, even though they are still conflict diamonds. Well, 493 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: in uh two thousand one, UM Bill Clinton signed Executive 494 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: Order one which basically said America is not no longer 495 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: gonna get any roughs from Sierra Leone. And then uh 496 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: W came along later that year and signed another executive 497 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: order saying no more RUSS from Liberia. And then in 498 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: two thousand three, we passed in the United States the 499 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: Clean Diamond Trade Act, which supposedly has legis slation that 500 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: helps implement in the Kimberly process. Yeah, and it sounds 501 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: like a big scam. Now, if you buy it's not 502 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: a scam, it's just flawed. It has inclusions to say 503 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: that um and if you buy a diamond you can UM, 504 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: you can request to see it's UM kimberly processed certificate. UM. 505 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: Another way to get around this all together, to make 506 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: sure that there's no way that your blood, that your 507 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: diamonds of blood diamond is to buy synthetic. Yeah, and 508 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: there's plenty of them, plenty of different varieties out there, yep. 509 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Growing up in the seventies, we all heard about the 510 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: Cubic Zirconia the c Z and uh it's a lab 511 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: gym that was made in a lab and it's been 512 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: on the market since seventy six. Yeah, the Russians created it, right, Yeah, 513 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: and it's hard. It's an eight point five on the 514 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: most scale. Um. And the problem with the c Z 515 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: is it's too perfect, Yeah, so perfect. It looks fake. 516 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: It's like the diamond that hit the Uncanny Valley, right, 517 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Like there's something wrong with it because it's just too good. So, 518 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean it looks artificial when you look at it, 519 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: because it is. They have manufactured it too perfectly. So 520 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: nowadays sometimes they will put slight inclusions in there, which 521 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: is just so funny. That's like the like the new 522 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: stuff that like the hat you get at Abercombie, that's 523 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: fraid I'm the bill. Um. There's also moistonite, which is 524 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: named after Dr Henri Moisson, who discovered diamonds in a 525 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: meteorite in Arizona in and somehow managed to replicate it. Yeah, 526 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: and if if it was just moisonite, like the natural moistonite, 527 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: it would be one of the rarest things on the planet, 528 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: the asteroid version of the meteorite version. Yeah, the non 529 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: man made moistonite um, because it's essentially just silicon carbide. 530 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: But it's really really rare to get the real thing. 531 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: It's like a crystallized version of diamonds. Yeah. And so 532 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: in the eighties, come an called cre Incorporated developed a 533 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: way of producing silicon carbide crystals, and moistonite was now 534 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: available as of the late nineties too, you know, to 535 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: take the place of your natural diamond are they I 536 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: couldn't get a price on those. I don't think moizonite 537 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: is cheap. Uh, I don't know. I know that man 538 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: made diamonds that's a different class. It's a different category 539 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: from even moistonite. Yeah, Moissonite and cubics arconia are synthetic 540 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: man made. No manmade is synthetic. Cubans cubic zarconia moistenite 541 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: are simulants. They're not actually made from carbon. Manmade diamonds 542 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: are made from carbon, but they're made in a few 543 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: days rather than you know, eons um and they are 544 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: structurally diamonds, so much of that the Deemological Institute of 545 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: America recognizes them as diamonds. But they sell for about 546 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: thirty of a natural diamond um and those are I guess, 547 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: second most expensive. So I would think moisture night is 548 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: cheaper than that, probably, And uh uh. The man made 549 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: are sometimes so hard to tell apart from the real 550 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: thing that gemalogists can't even tell, and jewelers can't tell. 551 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: And so they are now selling machines that helped jewelers 552 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: determine whether or not it's a real diamond or it's 553 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: man made. And who makes that machine? Josh, I couldn't 554 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: begin to guess. The beers the beers in November last year, 555 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: um late last year, the Anglo American company which the 556 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: Global Mining Company acquired. Oh, it was the Oppenheimer family 557 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: who was one of the original the Oppenheimer fun people. 558 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: Now it was from the They were one of the 559 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: original families for the de Beers Cartel, I think. Um, 560 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: but they bought out the Oppenheimer families of their Steak 561 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: into Beers for five point one billion dollars in cash 562 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: and cash, yeah, not like stock certificates or future promises. 563 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: And now they raised their steak to because they already 564 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: had forty five So the Oppenheimer's are a longer part 565 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: of that, but they are rolling in the cash. They 566 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: went straight. Um. I think we would be remissed. There's 567 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: plenty of famous diamonds, but I think we'd be remiss 568 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: if we didn't talk about probably the most famous diamond, 569 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: the Hope Diamond. The Pink Panther. Is that real? I 570 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: don't know. It was a real movie. Yeah, A really 571 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: good movie about a diamond in a great cartoon. Yeah. Um, 572 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: but the Hope Diamond. Have you seen it at the 573 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: Smithsonian which is big, um? And it was there. It 574 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: has a curse associated with it, you know that. Um. 575 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: There was a newspaper in nineteen eleven. Um. Well, I 576 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: guess several of them wrote about the curse of the 577 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: Hope Diamond. That's when it started to come about. Um. 578 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: And in a book in the Mystery of the Hope Diamond. 579 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: Really like kind of established its um lower in popular culture. 580 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: But UM starting with a guy named Jean Baptiste Tavernier. 581 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: He stole the Hope Diamond and was um torn apart 582 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: by wild dogs. That was the first bad thing that 583 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: happened associated with the Hope Diamond. Uh. Louis lost his 584 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: head during the revolution. Louis his head, Yeah, Louis the 585 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: fourteenth had it. He died of gang green Um. George 586 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: the fourth died deep in debt UM. All the way 587 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: to UH, one of my favorites uh Mademoiselle laurens Ldu 588 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: borrowed the diamond from her lover Ivan, who had been 589 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: murdered by Russian revolutionaries, and she was murdered before he 590 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: could be murdered by Russian revolutionaries. UM. And then all 591 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: the way down to the Abdul Hamid, the second Sultan 592 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: of Turkey. He paid four grand for it, and it 593 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: just brought horrible luck to everybody, from his um, his 594 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: favorite member of his harem, to his royal guards UM. 595 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: And then finally Harry Winston got his hands on it 596 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: from Pierre Cartier, and Harry Winston decided to just end 597 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: it all and send this thing to the Smithsonian and 598 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: he sent the Hope Diamond just regular postal. Regular post 599 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: didn't tell him it was coming. I mean they knew 600 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: that they were negotiating. He's like, okay, I'll send it, 601 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: and it just arrived very unceremoniously. And a guy named 602 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: James Todd is the mailman who brought it Hope Diamond 603 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: to the Smithsonian. And um, he later crushed his leg 604 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: in a truck accident, his head was injured in an 605 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: automobile accident, and he lost his home in a fire. 606 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: I'm not laughing at him. Boy, the Madden Curse has 607 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: nothing on that. No, that's crazy, no way. So that's 608 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: it for diamonds. Do you got anything else? What are 609 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: we at? Like an hour and a half now, okay, 610 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: let's end it. Then. Um, if you want to learn 611 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: more about diamonds, type diamond into the search bar. How 612 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: stuff works, like to common opening up a lot cool stuff? 613 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: And I said search bar. So it's not for a 614 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: listener mail. Yeah. In addition to diamonds, it was blood diamonds, 615 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: and there was an also an article about diamond thieves. 616 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: I'm wanna look into that, have you? Yeah, I was 617 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: kind of a history of diamond thoughts it wasn't um 618 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: okay this from Liz, and I'm gonna call this pickpocketing. 619 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: For spring break, during my junior year of high school, 620 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: I went to Europe as a part of a group 621 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: trip organized by my school's art club. There were maybe 622 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: thirty of us in total, spending three days each in London, Paris, 623 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: and Madrid. Before we left, our art teacher, who had 624 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: put together the entire trip, warned us repeatedly about pickpockets. 625 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: We even had an in club project where we made 626 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: little bags for our passports to hang around our necks 627 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: and under our shirts. During this trip, we did have 628 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: occasional brushes with suspicious people, including one lady who stepped 629 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: onto a crowded subway train, pushed against my mother, and 630 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: immediately started unzipping her purse, which was hanging in front 631 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,280 Speaker 1: of her. When she saw my mom looking to eckly 632 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: at her, she turned and walked off the train right 633 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: before the doors closed, about five or six seconds in 634 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: that entire exchange. The big story, though, was one night 635 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: in Madrid where a group of the adult chaperones and 636 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 1: anyone old enough to drink went out to a pub. 637 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: By sheer chance. The Swedish rugby team was also there 638 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: that night. The smallest among them was about six ft 639 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: six and they were all built like mac trucks. And 640 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: they were already very drunk and very rowdy, but also 641 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: very friendly. So you got big, burly, drunk friendly rugby. 642 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: Uh they were Swedish, yes, but that was a handsome 643 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: group of guys. Now I had went back to our hotel, 644 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: but this was the story related to me. Our our 645 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: teacher was chatting with the coach of the rugby team. 646 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: She felt a hand reached inside of her purse. She 647 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: grabbed at it as it was pulling out, and realized 648 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: that the pickpocket had her wallet, passport, and two passports 649 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: of my classmates. The entire team rushed the guy and 650 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: took him outside, where they recovered at least two other 651 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: wallets that have been stolen at the same bar. I 652 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: can't say what else they did, but I'm fairly certain 653 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't picking any pockets for a while. That is 654 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: from Liz in Philadelphia, a k a. New York LIGHTE. Nice. 655 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Liza. It was a pretty cool 656 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: It's a good pickpocketing story, and go Swedish rugby team 657 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: for beating up people. Who's steal. Yeah, any anybody who 658 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: beats up people who's steal It's pretty great. Unless it's 659 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: one of those kind of like morally gray things from Lameyserab. 660 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: You know it's tough yet. Well, if you have a 661 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: cool uh story about um, I don't know, Western justice 662 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: doled out by Swedes or other nationalities, we want to 663 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: hear about it. Sure, you can tweet to us at 664 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: s y s K podcast. 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