WEBVTT - 5. The Arrest

0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Murder in Illinois is a production of iHeartRadio. When the

0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.240
<v Speaker 1>bodies of the three Vaughn children and their mother were discovered,

0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the crime scene was so traumatizing that a police chaplain

0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.120
<v Speaker 1>was brought to the location to provide counseling for first responders.

0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:26.759
<v Speaker 1>All their emotions, their horror, heartbreak, and anger would have

0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.760
<v Speaker 1>been intertwined with the need for an explanation and for justice.

0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.120
<v Speaker 1>As the lone survivor, Christopher Vaughn appears to have been

0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:39.080
<v Speaker 1>eyed almost immediately as the prime suspect, and, according to

0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.680
<v Speaker 1>his mother Gail, in many ways after the tragedy, his

0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:46.080
<v Speaker 1>behavior and personality further implicated him.

0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Chris prided himself with in not showing a lot of emotions.

0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Even growing up. He tried to be very stuck, and

0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.480
<v Speaker 2>he would take everything in stride and he would smile,

0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, all and stuff, but he tried not to

0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.440
<v Speaker 2>show motion. I'm not sure where that came from, but

0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.880
<v Speaker 2>because as a child he was just happy and happy,

0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.000
<v Speaker 2>go lucky and smart alec and I'm a little boy.

0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.680
<v Speaker 2>But then after he got married, he decided he just didn't.

0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Want to show emotion anymore.

0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.240
<v Speaker 2>And you knew by his eyes a twinkle or the

0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:28.080
<v Speaker 2>crease or you know what. He was happy, sad or angry,

0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.600
<v Speaker 2>which he didn't really get angry that often, but he

0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.440
<v Speaker 2>did get angry. The evening before the funeral was supposed

0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.200
<v Speaker 2>to take place.

0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.520
<v Speaker 4>We had gathered on our back deck. Our other son

0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.479
<v Speaker 4>had a one son that was a toddler. I don't

0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.119
<v Speaker 4>even think he made it. He was a year old.

0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.720
<v Speaker 4>But he was walking around like.

0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.320
<v Speaker 3>A little bumblebee with his arms out and you.

0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Know, doing that stumbley thing.

0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.240
<v Speaker 2>And whenever Chris saw him.

0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:56.840
<v Speaker 5>Tears would come down his face.

0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.560
<v Speaker 2>He was really quiet around the case. As he'd sit

0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.920
<v Speaker 2>down and let him crawl over him or walk over him,

0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and he just cried. But the jinny went to the

0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:10.639
<v Speaker 2>fielder Roland.

0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:11.519
<v Speaker 6>That was it.

0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.160
<v Speaker 1>So did they let him bury his family?

0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:15.799
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm Lauren Brat Pacheco, and this is murder in Illinois.

0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:34.799
<v Speaker 7>Crying out, okay, few the ground hold hold?

0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:36.240
<v Speaker 8>How you?

0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.760
<v Speaker 1>The Vaughan family was shot early morning of June fourteenth,

0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.040
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven. Chris was taken to the hospital

0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and interrogated for a period of the three days. Following

0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the deaths of his wife and children, Their bodies were

0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:16.080
<v Speaker 1>transported to Missouri for the funeral planned for Saturday, June

0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:20.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty third, as both sides of the grieving family prepared

0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to bury Kimberly and her three children. It was against

0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the backdrop of relentless media coverage that painted Christopher Vaughan

0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in an increasingly negative light.

0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.320
<v Speaker 9>Witnesses described Vaughan's family as happy and normal in the

0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.280
<v Speaker 9>days leading up to their deaths. Their bodies were found

0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.200
<v Speaker 9>in the family vehicle parked near I fifty five on

0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.840
<v Speaker 9>a narrow path near a cell phone tower. Vaughn's father

0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.120
<v Speaker 9>in law said he was troubled over how he left

0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.880
<v Speaker 9>for work one morning, stone faced and didn't say a

0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.680
<v Speaker 9>word to anyone. His sister in law said he talked

0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.520
<v Speaker 9>to Kimberly Vaughan at least twice before her death, and

0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:55.520
<v Speaker 9>she seemed fine.

0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Here's Chris's brother.

0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.840
<v Speaker 10>Eric, Well, I mean, it was portrayed that way on

0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:06.080
<v Speaker 10>the news, and it was like on every channel, both

0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:10.640
<v Speaker 10>local and up in Chicago area. You could find multiple

0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.480
<v Speaker 10>stations broadcasting their opinions on it.

0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:18.320
<v Speaker 1>So you felt like you watched your brother become a

0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.719
<v Speaker 1>suspect in the media long before he was formally charged.

0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:29.440
<v Speaker 10>Oh, most definitely, most definitely yeah, it's breaking news and

0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.920
<v Speaker 10>everything like that. But you know, within hours they had

0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:41.600
<v Speaker 10>released names, photos and everything that normally doesn't happen within hours.

0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.560
<v Speaker 10>It's usually half a day or a day stuff is

0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.960
<v Speaker 10>released to the press. It was almost like they were

0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.880
<v Speaker 10>released it before they really even did a lot of

0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:58.000
<v Speaker 10>stuff testing and forensics and stuff like that.

0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.480
<v Speaker 1>In the days following the tr tragedy, Christopher seemed somewhat

0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.680
<v Speaker 1>unresponsive to his family, though his actions were more in

0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.840
<v Speaker 1>keeping with those of a grieving father than a murderer,

0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:11.720
<v Speaker 1>even a remorseful one.

0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.440
<v Speaker 10>When I first saw him once he got back to

0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.400
<v Speaker 10>my parents' house, I definitely gave him a big hug,

0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.240
<v Speaker 10>a lot longer than I would normally give him a hug.

0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.440
<v Speaker 10>I mean, he looked just lost. This to look in

0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.960
<v Speaker 10>his eyes, he was shocked. I guess it's still in shock.

0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.440
<v Speaker 10>We talked a little bit, but nothing. We really didn't

0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.719
<v Speaker 10>talk about what was happening. We talked and chit chatted

0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.479
<v Speaker 10>about stuff, nothing related to what's happening with him for

0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:43.279
<v Speaker 10>the most part.

0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever talk to him about what happened that day?

0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever try to get answers from him?

0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:52.760
<v Speaker 11>Now?

0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:58.720
<v Speaker 10>I didn't ask any direct questions, and I really wasn't

0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.839
<v Speaker 10>sure if it was too soon to ask what happened?

0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.960
<v Speaker 10>According to him, what happened. If I would have known

0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.520
<v Speaker 10>a couple of days later he would be in jail,

0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:14.520
<v Speaker 10>I would have probably asked some questions, but I didn't.

0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:19.000
<v Speaker 5>What was he like? Emotionally and mentally had.

0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:25.279
<v Speaker 10>Head down a lot, just kind of that blazed, stunned look.

0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.880
<v Speaker 10>If you asked him a question or asked him if

0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.000
<v Speaker 10>you need anything, I mean he'd answer you and kind

0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:36.120
<v Speaker 10>of a very low enthusiasm is a kind of I'm okay, no,

0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.800
<v Speaker 10>I don't need anything. He definitely didn't have the sarcasm

0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.479
<v Speaker 10>like my family is is good for. I saw more

0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.360
<v Speaker 10>emotion in his body movement and the way he held

0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:53.400
<v Speaker 10>himself and walked, and the way he was I'd never

0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.280
<v Speaker 10>seen anything like that, you know, from Chris. I would

0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.640
<v Speaker 10>have been thinking of through my head trying to replay

0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:04.440
<v Speaker 10>every thing to figure out what happened. Yeah, I'm sure

0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.040
<v Speaker 10>there's some type of pain from being shot to the

0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:12.280
<v Speaker 10>leg or whatever he was tobbling around. Yeah. I would

0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.200
<v Speaker 10>have personally been more concerned with, Okay, what's going to

0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.360
<v Speaker 10>happen next? What do I need to do. What can

0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.760
<v Speaker 10>I do? I would have them clue.

0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.400
<v Speaker 1>In the days leading up to the funeral of Kim

0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and his children, the police focus on Chris intensified. It

0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.760
<v Speaker 1>was becoming clear to him and to his family that

0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.720
<v Speaker 1>he was the primary, if not only, suspect, in their murders.

0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Here's Gail Vaughan.

0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:43.640
<v Speaker 2>When Chris was still with us and the Illinois State

0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Police asked us to come back over for another interview

0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:54.240
<v Speaker 2>with Pierre and Chris separately. Chris had a bad feeling

0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.920
<v Speaker 2>about it, he says, Mom. They shouldn't be interviewing me

0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.920
<v Speaker 2>over and over about the same thing. Already told them

0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:07.080
<v Speaker 2>all I know and what I know, and it just

0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:14.520
<v Speaker 2>we were getting different information feedbacks. We were reading what

0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.920
<v Speaker 2>was happening in the paper against us, but we were

0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:22.040
<v Speaker 2>told not to make any comments. We did have reporters

0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:26.440
<v Speaker 2>come to our door and leave cards to get an interview,

0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and we were told not to talk to any of them.

0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:33.320
<v Speaker 1>The Vaughan family's decision to grieve privately and to avoid

0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.319
<v Speaker 1>the press seems to have fueled the impression that they

0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.600
<v Speaker 1>were either aloof or elusive. Christopher's family now has the

0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.199
<v Speaker 1>benefit of hindsight. I wondered what they would have done

0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.280
<v Speaker 1>differently if they'd have remained as quiet in the public eye.

0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Here's Gale.

0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I would definitely not fly under the radar. We were

0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.280
<v Speaker 2>told not to talk to any press by our lawyers.

0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:04.120
<v Speaker 2>We were not to talk about this to anybody about

0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.280
<v Speaker 2>our case or our feelings anything. We were not to

0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:09.960
<v Speaker 2>say anything to anybody.

0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I think we should have.

0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Just gone right out there and just started telling everybody

0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.520
<v Speaker 2>that this was not true. It was just not right.

0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Here's Adam, Chris's brother.

0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.120
<v Speaker 8>You read about these types of tragedies in the news,

0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.960
<v Speaker 8>you see them in the news, but you never you

0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:33.080
<v Speaker 8>never expected to actually happen to someone you know, let

0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:38.960
<v Speaker 8>alone your family. But it was a very surreal situation,

0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:44.000
<v Speaker 8>and I can remember wondering why the police kept bringing

0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:48.480
<v Speaker 8>Chris back into questioning. From the little bits and pieces

0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.080
<v Speaker 8>that I heard between my parents and Chris, they weren't

0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.280
<v Speaker 8>very consoling for an individual who had just lost his family.

0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.000
<v Speaker 8>The feel right from the beginning was that the police

0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.240
<v Speaker 8>were trying to wring anything out of him. But they

0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.360
<v Speaker 8>released him, and he came home to my parents' house

0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.200
<v Speaker 8>and we were able to set up the funeral.

0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Adam remembers watching his eldest brother begin to slowly unravel

0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:18.960
<v Speaker 1>in the days leading up to the service.

0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:20.320
<v Speaker 12>He was hurting.

0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.080
<v Speaker 8>I mean, that was very.

0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.760
<v Speaker 10>Evident in his demeanor.

0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.760
<v Speaker 8>Wee bon mails are not overly demonstrative, but I absolutely

0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:33.240
<v Speaker 8>saw him crying. I saw him trying to hold it

0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:40.559
<v Speaker 8>together around people, but you could just see pain emanating

0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:45.319
<v Speaker 8>from him. I mean, just the emotional pain and trauma

0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.079
<v Speaker 8>is beyond what I could imagine. And then on top

0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.680
<v Speaker 8>of that, he had physical pain. He had gunshot wounds

0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.560
<v Speaker 8>that he was attempting.

0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.520
<v Speaker 10>To heal from as well.

0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Arrangements for the service and burial had to be made

0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:05.040
<v Speaker 1>in tandem with Kimberly's family. Needless to say, they likely

0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.280
<v Speaker 1>had a different perspective on things than the Vaughns. What

0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the Vonns didn't know is just how involved law enforcement

0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:16.800
<v Speaker 1>had become in the background, and because of the existing dynamic,

0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:21.000
<v Speaker 1>there was already strained communication between the two families.

0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:26.240
<v Speaker 2>When we went to make the arrangements for the funeral,

0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:30.840
<v Speaker 2>we had the Phillips there and I think their daughter Jinny,

0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and really the first out of Susan's mouth was, where's

0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Kimberly's jewelry?

0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:38.079
<v Speaker 1>I want it.

0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Somehow, Chris had anticipated she was going to want that,

0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.240
<v Speaker 2>so he had put together a jewelry box full of

0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.160
<v Speaker 2>everything he had purchased for Kimberly and gave it to her.

0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.400
<v Speaker 2>And she stilled it out on the table at that

0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.360
<v Speaker 2>point and went through it and says, well, where's her

0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.880
<v Speaker 2>wedding ring, where's this? Where's that? I want it all?

0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.520
<v Speaker 2>And we just shrugged our shoulders because we weren't sure.

0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I told Chris it was his, that he should have

0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.440
<v Speaker 2>kept it, but he said, no, Susan would want it

0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.880
<v Speaker 2>or make his life terrible, so he just gave it

0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:17.720
<v Speaker 2>to her and then we went ahead with the funeral arrangements.

0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.080
<v Speaker 6>But during the funeral arrangements there was a lot of tension,

0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.280
<v Speaker 6>I mean because missus Phillips Susan, I mean, she wanted

0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:28.839
<v Speaker 6>to direct everything and have it.

0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.840
<v Speaker 13>Her way, and it pretty much turned out to it

0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.360
<v Speaker 13>pretty much turned out to be because they had to

0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.360
<v Speaker 13>buy the grave sites and everything like that, and Chris

0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.800
<v Speaker 13>said that he would like to have a grave site

0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:42.520
<v Speaker 13>there too.

0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.960
<v Speaker 6>And at first she was not going to let them

0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:46.720
<v Speaker 6>let him have a grave site there.

0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:47.679
<v Speaker 8>Susan.

0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.880
<v Speaker 6>Finally she admitted that she would let him have a

0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:55.200
<v Speaker 6>grave site there. Oh, and they wanted to keys the

0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.840
<v Speaker 6>house too, because they had already assumed that they were

0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.760
<v Speaker 6>going to get the house and everything with it.

0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:02.840
<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it was not a good scenario being in

0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.959
<v Speaker 6>the same room with those people. But Chris handled it

0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:16.040
<v Speaker 6>pretty good. And when I started to get a little upset,

0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.480
<v Speaker 6>he put his hand on my arm and just sort

0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.160
<v Speaker 6>of patted it and said, no, let it be, it's

0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:23.880
<v Speaker 6>not worth it.

0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:29.559
<v Speaker 1>This is how the Vaughns remember these interactions. The Phillips

0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:34.559
<v Speaker 1>family has declined our multiple requests for comment. Given this situation,

0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.720
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to fault anyone's reactions or actions during such

0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a tumultuous time, though the Phillips likely saw Chris as

0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the person who'd taken away their daughter and grandchildren. Not

0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.959
<v Speaker 1>only were they dealing with grief, but also intense anger.

0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.319
<v Speaker 1>But Chris, on the other hand, murderer or not, whether

0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:58.680
<v Speaker 1>driven by guilt or grief or both, was visibly affected

0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.120
<v Speaker 1>by his loss. Here's Rachel Vaughan, the wife of the

0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.760
<v Speaker 1>youngest Bond brother, Adam.

0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.080
<v Speaker 15>When we arrived at the funeral home the day before

0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.440
<v Speaker 15>the funeral, so for the visitation, we all came in,

0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:15.280
<v Speaker 15>but then Gil and Pierre took Chris in by himself first,

0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.800
<v Speaker 15>and I remember that because I was standing right by

0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.440
<v Speaker 15>the door watching him go in, and he was still

0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.200
<v Speaker 15>walking with a cane because of his leg injury, and

0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.760
<v Speaker 15>he walked in with him and then as soon as

0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:32.000
<v Speaker 15>he got in the door he crumpled. I remember because

0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.800
<v Speaker 15>Pierre had to kind of hold him up and get

0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.160
<v Speaker 15>him into his seat. There was a room designated in

0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.960
<v Speaker 15>the back so we could get out of the crowd essentially,

0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.840
<v Speaker 15>and he pretty much stayed in there the whole time.

0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:53.320
<v Speaker 15>And looking back now, I can see how that probably looked.

0:14:55.120 --> 0:15:00.400
<v Speaker 15>But he was not fit for greeting people. He just

0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.440
<v Speaker 15>was not in any kind of shape to be interacting

0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:05.400
<v Speaker 15>with people.

0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.280
<v Speaker 5>Can you expand upon that?

0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:13.200
<v Speaker 15>I mean the greeting area where we were supposed to

0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.000
<v Speaker 15>be to greet people that were coming in to see us,

0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:20.760
<v Speaker 15>was literally right in front of their coffins. So he

0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.440
<v Speaker 15>was expected to either sit or stand in front of

0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:31.760
<v Speaker 15>his family open casket and talk to people. He was

0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.800
<v Speaker 15>not While he was in that room, he was not

0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.560
<v Speaker 15>saying words that made sense. Like he was broken essentially,

0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.920
<v Speaker 15>And once they got him out he was able to

0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:50.400
<v Speaker 15>kind of collect himself. Chris could not go back in

0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:51.360
<v Speaker 15>that room again.

0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.800
<v Speaker 1>And the next day was the funeral. It was already

0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.440
<v Speaker 1>an emotionally daunting event for both families, but for the Vonds,

0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it was about to get a lot worse. Here's Pierre.

0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:06.880
<v Speaker 2>The day of the.

0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.480
<v Speaker 6>Funeral, Chris knew something was up, but he wasn't talking

0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.880
<v Speaker 6>to us because the police told him not to and

0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:18.720
<v Speaker 6>he was protecting us. But in the meantime, he went

0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:23.840
<v Speaker 6>through paperwork and he found a life insurance policy, he

0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.040
<v Speaker 6>signed a title over on his jeep to us, and

0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 6>he was doing other things, and you know, and I said, Chris,

0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.520
<v Speaker 6>why are you doing all this? And he says, Daddy says,

0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.400
<v Speaker 6>he says, I got to feeling there out to get me.

0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.720
<v Speaker 6>And you know, that way things were protected.

0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.560
<v Speaker 1>As mourners arrived for the funeral, the Vaughn family sent

0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:02.880
<v Speaker 1>something was deeply a mess. Here's Gail's younger sister, Rose.

0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:08.360
<v Speaker 12>Felt like something was going on that day. There was

0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.439
<v Speaker 12>just a lot of tension in the air with the

0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.880
<v Speaker 12>people that worked there and everything. And I remember our

0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:22.160
<v Speaker 12>family being sequestered into a big room until we couldn't move,

0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:28.439
<v Speaker 12>We couldn't leave. We were put in that room. And Chris,

0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.399
<v Speaker 12>I believe they told him he needed to check on

0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:32.080
<v Speaker 12>her rings.

0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 6>Here's Pierre, the funeral director person was there. And the

0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:46.760
<v Speaker 6>big deal was that the Phillips family wanted all her jewelry.

0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.679
<v Speaker 6>They came, you know that she was supposed to be

0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.359
<v Speaker 6>buried with, but they didn't want her to be buried

0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.440
<v Speaker 6>with it. They wanted they wanted to take it home

0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:54.800
<v Speaker 6>with them.

0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:57.879
<v Speaker 2>She said that.

0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:04.680
<v Speaker 6>We had go downstairs to sign the papers.

0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.720
<v Speaker 3>For the jewelry, which struck me.

0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:12.119
<v Speaker 6>His ode and everything like that. So we walked downstairs.

0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.240
<v Speaker 2>And she only wanted Chris to go down and Pure

0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:15.360
<v Speaker 2>went with him.

0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.399
<v Speaker 6>Anyway. She let us downstairs and walked in there like

0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 6>a conference room down there, and when we opened the door,

0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:26.480
<v Speaker 6>there was fourteen different policemen standing there and they immediately

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:31.000
<v Speaker 6>handcuffed him and writing his rights and telling him his

0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.560
<v Speaker 6>being arrested for the murder of his family. And I

0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:38.760
<v Speaker 6>was totally in shock. They had to have Saint Charles

0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.680
<v Speaker 6>County police arrest him. This Illinois State police were there

0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.879
<v Speaker 6>and Chris just back over his shoulder at me as

0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 6>they were walking him out, and he just had a

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:52.200
<v Speaker 6>look of shock on his face.

0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.520
<v Speaker 15>He didn't say anything, and.

0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.520
<v Speaker 6>I told him just hang in there. We'll get this

0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.320
<v Speaker 6>taken care of. And then I had to walk back

0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.880
<v Speaker 6>upstairs and talked to my family.

0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Here's Rachel Vaughan.

0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:12.159
<v Speaker 15>Pierre came back in. I will never forget this moment

0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.560
<v Speaker 15>as long as I live. He went up to Gail

0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:19.320
<v Speaker 15>and put his hands on her arm and he said,

0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:26.920
<v Speaker 15>they just arrested Chris, and she just she had been

0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:32.200
<v Speaker 15>like a rock the whole time, and she fell apart

0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.600
<v Speaker 15>and her first words were, but he didn't do it.

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Here's Rachel's husband, Adam.

0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.040
<v Speaker 8>And then it became very apparent that there were no

0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 8>Phillips family in the room with else and it quickly

0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:54.240
<v Speaker 8>became obvious that the Phillips were part of those who

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.919
<v Speaker 8>were supporting the police in their arrest.

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Here's Chris's brother Eric.

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:05.560
<v Speaker 10>They didn't even let him be there present when they

0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 10>were buried.

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine watching your sibling being taken away like that.

0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Under those circumstances.

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:21.119
<v Speaker 10>It was very difficult just to even concentrate, yeah, to

0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.159
<v Speaker 10>do simple things. I mean, I was one of the

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:30.680
<v Speaker 10>pall bearers that was up front with him, and it

0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:36.400
<v Speaker 10>just felt not taking four people out, you know, from

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:42.800
<v Speaker 10>one family. I looked like a little waterfall. Standing up there. Now.

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Speaker 10>Granted I wasn't the only one, and all the people

0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.240
<v Speaker 10>that were pall bearers were pretty much in the same boat.

0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Chris Vaughn was arrested at seven fifty am as he

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.320
<v Speaker 1>prepared to bury his family afterwards. His brother and father

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 1>served as pall bearers. At the center of Chris's criminal

0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:05.440
<v Speaker 1>charges and the driving forces behind the funeral arrest were

0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the Illinois State Police and the Will County States Attorney

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:13.479
<v Speaker 1>James Glasgow. Here's Chris's initial defense investigator Bill Clutter.

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:19.480
<v Speaker 11>This is a classic case of tunnel vision where Sergeant

0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:23.159
<v Speaker 11>Lawson locked in on his theory that he did it,

0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:27.679
<v Speaker 11>and everybody rallied behind him, including the state's attorney, and

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.560
<v Speaker 11>you know, they were full steam ahead Ray Road and

0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 11>Chris Vaughn without really conducting the type of investigation that

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 11>should have been done before you charge a citizen who

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.919
<v Speaker 11>has the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. But in

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.320
<v Speaker 11>this case, they just threw the constitution out the window

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 11>and just declared that he was he did it, and

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.720
<v Speaker 11>we're going to fuck with him, and by arresting him,

0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 11>depriving him of grieving for his family. The funeral was

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 11>one of those ways they did that.

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 1>You heard former Illinois State Police sergeant Gary Lawson interrogate

0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Vaughan hours after his family was shot, still clad

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.160
<v Speaker 1>in a hospital gown and bleeding. In our last episode,

0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Lawson's testimony in front of a grand jury would be

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:23.679
<v Speaker 1>key in securing Bond's indictment. We will revisit the significance

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 1>of that testimony later in much greater detail.

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 11>You look at the timeline from when this happened on

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:37.480
<v Speaker 11>Thursday morning, June fourteenth, and in about a week's time

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:43.239
<v Speaker 11>they had already secured his arrest. The obvious thing is

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 11>that it was just another way of inflicting punishment on

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 11>a person that they presumed was guilty and never gave

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 11>the benefit of the presumption of innocence, which is supposed

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:01.119
<v Speaker 11>to be ingrained in the constitution that w sists and has.

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 11>But in this case, they jumped to the conclusion that

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 11>he did it from day one.

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>And actually the decision to arrest him the morning of

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:15.479
<v Speaker 1>his family's funeral ends up making Vaughn look worse. In

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>other words, it makes it look like he's one hundred

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>percent guilty if you're going to arrest him at the funeral,

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:23.679
<v Speaker 1>of his family.

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 11>Well, yeah, that certainly came across in the.

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Media, and this is the moment that locked in the

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>new reality for Chris and his family. They were no

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>longer just a family grieving a loss. They were now

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a family fighting for their son, and they were increasingly

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>alone in that effort.

0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 2>After that, the world just became a blurb. This couldn't

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 2>be happening. We knew Chris didn't do it, but it

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 2>fell on death airs. I so wanted to make a fuss,

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 2>but because I believed in law, I did what I

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 2>was told. It was like a never ending dream, getting

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 2>worse by the minute, and I couldn't wake up. I mean,

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:15.119
<v Speaker 2>my grandchildren were dead, my daughter in law was ted.

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 2>My son was just arrested and accused of being a murderer,

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>later convicted. And I know he didn't do it. He

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 2>was innocent and in pain from his loss, and nobody

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 2>cared about him.

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It was devastating for the Vaughns. While Kim's family probably

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>had a different perspective. They likely felt Chris's arrest dispelled

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.959
<v Speaker 1>any speculation that their daughter could have played an active

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>role in the tragedy, but Chris's family felt bundled into

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the accusation by association. Here again is Rachel Vaughan.

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:58.719
<v Speaker 15>It was cruel because, regardless of anything else, there were

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 15>two things. First he was that was to be presumed innocent,

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 15>and someone presumed innocent should have the opportunity to attend

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 15>his children's funeral. If that cannot be the case, regardless

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 15>of what he did or did not do, his parents

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 15>still lost their grandchildren and their daughter in law, but

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 15>they were robbed of the opportunity to grieve them because

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 15>they just took him all at once. And in that moment,

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 15>we were so shocked by what was happening with Chris.

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 15>The actual burial and everything was a blur. And I

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 15>understand that Kim's family believes that he is guilty. I

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 15>get that. I cannot imagine what that is like to

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 15>feel that a man that you led into your home

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 15>took your daughter from you. I understand that. But what

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 15>happened was right after we found out, the woman from

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 15>the funeral home went out and notified the Phillips, who

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 15>were standing right outside our window, and they were celebrating.

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 15>And I do not begrudge them the celebration because I

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 15>understand from their perspective Kim was vindicated that their daughter

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 15>could not possibly have done this horrible thing. It must

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:35.640
<v Speaker 15>be him, and I understand that. And whether or not

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 15>they knew that we could see them, it just was.

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 15>It was like a perfect storm of horrible for us.

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 15>They went in, they took all the front rows of

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 15>the area, so our family sat all in the back.

0:26:55.240 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 15>It just I think that was the worst part. Regardless

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 15>of what Chris did or did not do, the entire

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:10.239
<v Speaker 15>family was lumped in with him. And to me, that

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 15>was the greatest tragedy of that day, that suddenly we

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 15>were no longer families of victims. We were the family

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 15>of a killer and should be treated as such.

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's revisit the concept of the presumption of innocence, which

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>is crucial to ensuring individuals receive a fair trial and

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>is meant to protect the integrity of the justices as

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 1>well as the human dignity of people who are accused

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>of committing crimes. Here's private investigator Bill Clutter.

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 11>We have the constitutional protections because there was a time

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 11>when there was no presumption of innocence, going back to

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 11>the Salem witch trials, where there wasn't a lot of

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 11>protection against someone who may be falsely accused.

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Where you were guilty until proven innocent.

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 11>Right until you can prove your innocence.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Right after Chris's arrest, Kimberly's family allegedly removed anything they

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>considered to be of value from the Swego family home.

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>The Vaughan family began the process of cleaning out the

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>house for very different reasons. Rose Chris's aunt was there

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to help.

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 12>I have notes of everything, but I saw feelings, emotions.

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 12>It's pretty crazy that Like that was surreal too.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 12>Didn't really to get through it. You couldn't have an emotion.

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 12>You just systematically started on one side of the house

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 12>and boxed stuff up, got rid of things that had

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 12>names and baits on it so people wouldn't go through

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 12>the dumpster and try and make money on it. It

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 12>was sad.

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Even in their state of grief and anger and defensiveness,

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the Vaughan family was still trying to shield and protect

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the memories and privacy of their loved ones from the

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>relentless and prying nature of the tabloid mentality that continued

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to swirl around the tragedy.

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 12>When we were cleaning the house out, there was a

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 12>little girl that knocked on their front door. We answered it,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 12>and she introduced herself as Abbie's friend, and she said

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 12>that Abby was a good drawer, and she asked if

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 12>she could have a sketchbook or pictures that Abby had drawn.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 12>So my sister said sure, and so she gave her

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 12>some pictures. Not more than a few minutes later, another

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 12>room knock at the door, so there was another little

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 12>girl with the first little girl, and she also asked

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 12>for some pictures that Abby had drawn, and so Gail

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 12>said sure, and she went and got some more. Well,

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 12>the girls were talking with us, and what the girls

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 12>had said was that they were allowed to come and

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 12>play on the front porch the area in front of

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 12>the house, but they were never allowed in the house.

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 12>Even if they had to use the restroom, they had

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 12>to go back home, which isn't that far, but still

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 12>inconvenient for a little person that has to use the restroom.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 12>And then the little girl said that she was supposed

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 12>to have a sleepover, but when she came to the

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 12>door with her stuff, she was told that it was

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 12>canceled by who Kimberly, So there's another side that we're

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 12>not seeing, and that really stuck out because these little

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 12>girls were so sweet, and that kind of also talks

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 12>to the situation at hand.

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>And it was in this innocent and revealing moment with

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>her granddaughter's friends that Gail began to understand there was

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>likely more to Kim's behavior than anyone outside of the

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>household really understood.

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and there was two little girls, and we invited

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>them in, and we went into ADDIE's room and I

0:31:55.720 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>asked him, is there something small here from ADDIE's room

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 2>that you would like to remember her by? And she

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 2>looked for a long time, and they found something very

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>small and they're just very tiny at the moment, I

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>can't remember what it was, but they said thank you.

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Because actually it was the first time they'd been in

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the house. Kimberly really didn't allow kids in her house.

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>It was okay to let Babby, Sandy and Blake go

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and play in other houses, but Kimberly just didn't. I'm

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>not sure why, but this was the first time these

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>two little girls had ever been in the house.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 5>And they said that they were her best friends.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>They were her best friends. Yes, they came. We gave

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>them something and they left, and probably an hour later,

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe an hour and a half, they came back, and

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 2>what they didn't done was the picture that they had

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 2>taken with him that Abby drew. They had put in

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 2>a little frame and gave it back to us to

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>remember Abbie. That's so sweet and they were just so

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>sad it just could happen to their friend.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>There was another neighborhood playmate who wasn't with those two girls.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>She would later write a letter, which Gaila saved to

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>this day, asking to also receive anything to remember Abby.

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Her name is Alexa, and we were able to connect

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to discuss her memories of Abby and the tragedy.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I have so many.

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 16>When she came over, she drew me once and I

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 16>remember her telling me like, please don't be mad at me.

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not the best drawer. I think you're beautiful.

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 16>And that was the first time I ever heard of

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 16>anyone besides my parents call me.

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Beautiful, And I'm like, who are you?

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 13>Like?

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 3>You are so mature. You are somebody that I will

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>have in my life forever.

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I wish she was still around, but I know that

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 3>she's with me every day.

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Did she ever talk to you about her parents, particularly

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>mom or dad?

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Not really, not from what I can remember, Like thinking

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 3>about it.

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 16>I kind of felt like she was trying to escape something,

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 16>if that makes sense, because whenever we would talk about

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 16>family or I would ask a question, it would be

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 16>kind of like a broad answer, or she would kind

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 16>of change the subject.

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that there was a conversation on the bus

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>one day. Can you remember what it was about or

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>why that comment sticks out?

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 3>I was probably arguing with my younger brother.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 16>We definitely butt heads a lot, and I was telling her,

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 16>I'm like, you know, I wish I had a perfect

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 16>family like yours, and she was telling me, you know,

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 16>not everything is what it's me And when I kind

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 16>of asked her to elaborate, then it.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 17>Was like, no, it's nothing too crazy. I'm just saying,

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 17>you know, no one's perfect. Everybody has their problems and

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 17>their issues. And then we would kind of move on

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 17>and kind of go past it.

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you just tell me about why? And when you

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.240
<v Speaker 1>reached out to Gail Vaughan.

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Everything happened and I felt alone.

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 16>I felt like my person was snatched away from me, and.

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 3>I was really angry for a period.

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 16>Of time, and then I kind of had an epiphany

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 16>and I was like, how selfish of me to be

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 16>angry when there are people like missus Vaughn who lost

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 16>all of her grandchildren.

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, I couldn't even imagine how she feels.

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 16>So I remember my mom, I asked her if she

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 16>could help me, and writing a letter because I didn't

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 16>want to sound selfish, and some of her belongings as well,

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 16>so I didn't have anything to remember her by. Miss

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 16>Gail came to our house, but I don't think we

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 16>were home, and I remember coming home to just a

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 16>small box of a few things and a letter that

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 16>she wrote back to me. There's this like a little

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 16>statue of blonde girl that looks like Abby on a unicorn.

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 3>It's still on my vanity fourteen years later.

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 16>And another picture that she gave me that I keep

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 16>in my desk in a drawer.

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Connections like these are what sustained Gail during this tragic time.

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>But not everything was good. As they continued to go

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>through the house, they discovered something rather upsetting and more

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>than a bit odd. Here's rose.

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 12>When we were cleaning out the closet, there were wrapped packages.

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.760
<v Speaker 12>I don't know if they were birthday Christmas what they were.

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.280
<v Speaker 12>When we my sister looked at them, she said those

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 12>are things that I sent the kids, meaning Sandy, Abby

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 12>and Blake and and it had their names on it,

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 12>and they weren't opened. They were wrapped and the one

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 12>tag had on it that for Christopher to build this

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 12>with Blake and then make one for himself. And I

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 12>believe it was like a bals of wood airplane, something

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 12>they could do together.

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 5>And there was more than just one or two. There

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 5>was like four or five six.

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 12>Different packages in the two different closets that were downstairs.

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 12>And when my sister saw it, it was hurtful for her,

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 12>but seeing her face because there's nothing she wouldn't do

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 12>for those kids.

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 5>Here's Gail.

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>They were gifts that we had given the kids, but

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 2>they had never been delivered. Also, when we were going

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 2>through the file cabinet in the basement, there was a

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.760
<v Speaker 2>bunch of birthday cards we had sent to the children

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 2>and they had never been opened. They still had five

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>dollars in them, because that's usually what I sent, five

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars because you don't know what the child wants. So

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>when the kids would come and spend a week or

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 2>a couple of days, probably a couple of days, I

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 2>would take a bunch of pictures and I'd put them

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 2>together in a small little album and I'd give it

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 2>to them so they can remember their trip. These were

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 2>up There also pictures that I had sent home with

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 2>the kids. I was just, wow, what do you say?

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:49.919
<v Speaker 5>You must have been heartbroken.

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I was that the kids didn't realize that we had

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 2>given them and we had thought about them, We had

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 2>sent them cards, and they'd never received them. They never

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>knew we cared unless we were right there and talk

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>to them and did stuff.

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 5>Why would someone do that?

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Why would someone keep Christmas and Birthday presents and cards

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.839
<v Speaker 1>from children from their grandparents.

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a question I would like to had answer for,

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know. We rose and I just looked

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 2>at that, and we looked at each other and it

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>was just unbelievable. I did ask Chris about that, and

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>he says, I don't know what's in the closets, like

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a typical meal, you know, unless he wants something, he

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really look in closet. There was many things I

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 2>personally didn't like about Kim, but you know what, my

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>son adored her, And what can you say about that?

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Love doesn't know a boundary.

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>To get greater insight into whether the comp the skating

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>of presents and cards is unusual and or significant. I

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>reached out to doctor James Fallen. In addition to being

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a neuroscientist, Fallin as Professor of psychiatry and Human Behavior

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and emeritus Professor of Anatomy and Neurobiology in the University

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>of California, Irvine School of Medicine. Upon review of the materials,

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>he flagged the fact that the two medications prescribed for

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Kimberly's anxiety and migraines were also used to treat bipolar disorder,

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a condition associated with episodes of mood swings.

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 14>She was using a SSRI select of serotonin reuptake inhibitor,

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 14>which keeps the serotonin from being taken back up into

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 14>the cell body so it stays out in the synapses.

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 14>And so the way of keeping serotonin out in the

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 14>synaptic space longer, so it can have an effect. And

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 14>so she was taken SSRI. What I originally heard was

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 14>she was taking for migraine and for anxiety, but it's

0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 14>used to treat bipolar disorder of both the main and

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:04.760
<v Speaker 14>the depression. That's one thing. But also she was taking

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 14>topo max, so the topo max added to the SSRI.

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 14>This can induce you know, suicidal thoughts and actions definitely,

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 14>and it can actually make depression worse. So instead of

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 14>fixing the depression, so these two can interact. Okay, the

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 14>SSRI and topomax can interact to produce a very pretty

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 14>dire situation.

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 1>He also found the unopened gifts telling.

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 14>Who sequestered them and hid them.

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Apparently Kimberly Vaughn.

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 18>Oh boy, she had also done that with all the

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 18>birthday cards and holiday cards. They were in a folder, unopened,

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 18>with the five dollar bills that she had been sent

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 18>for the kids still inside, so she knew what she

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 18>was doing.

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 14>This was a setup for something, right, I mean, she's

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 14>or just to drive him crazy or them crazy, or

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.319
<v Speaker 14>just to be manipulated. Do we know if she had

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 14>bipolar but bipolars, it's not unusual for them to be

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 14>very cruel. I mean that just you may not have

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:09.479
<v Speaker 14>to go further than that.

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>What we do know is that during the trial, an

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>investigator with the Public Defender's Office read an email message

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>sent from Kimberly Vaughn to one of her classmates at

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the University of Phoenix in online college. The classmate apparently

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>suffered from multiple sclerosis, and Kimberly told him of her

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>sister's struggles with the symptoms of the disease. Kimberly also

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>wrote about her sister's suffering from bipolar disorder. That could

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>be significant because numerous studies have found that people with

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a parent or sibling with bipolar disorder have an increased

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>chance of developing the disorder themselves. We'll revisit Kimberly Vaughn's

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>behavior in the months leading up to the tragedy in

0:42:56.280 --> 0:43:02.760
<v Speaker 1>much greater detail later. Back to our timeline. Christopher Vaughan

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>was initially held in Missouri on one million dollar cash

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>bond while awaiting extradition to Illinois. Once he arrived in Illinois,

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>he was held without bond. Because of this, Chris would

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>sit in jail from the morning of his family's funeral

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>until his trial five years later. The state of Illinois

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>was planning to seek the death penalty, but with a

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 1>criminal investigation comes digging and then discovery, and what would

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>soon come out about Christopher Vaughan would make his already

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>challenging defense nearly impossible. On the next murder in Illinois,

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Chris and Kimberley Vaughn's troubled marriage becomes tabloid fodder.

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 11>And he made two visits to a scrip club and

0:43:56.120 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 11>spent an enormous amount of money I think over four thousand.

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Dollars, and Vaughan is betrayed as a man looking for

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>a way out of his marriage at any cost.

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 11>He had recently confided, or I should say, confessed to

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 11>her that he had had a relationship when he was

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 11>out of the country in Mexico.

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Murdered Illinois is a production of iHeartRadio. Executive producers are

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Bright Pacheco and Taylor Chacoine. Written by Lauren Bright

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Pacheco and Matthew Riddle, Story editing by Matthew Riddle, editing

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and sound design by Evan Tyre and Taylor Chackoine. Featuring

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>music by Cicada Rhythm, with new compositions engineered and mixed

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>by Evan Tyre and Taylor Chackoine. Archived news reports provided

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>by wgn ick You.

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 15>I'm dope and father right.

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 6>You are through the name.

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 19>I'll leave with them d hay hinste A dream Hello, Yes,

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 19>oh dream.

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 7>Stee you we are.

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 19>Dream Hello.

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, check out the iHeartRadio, app,

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Apple podcasts, or wherever you get the stories that matter

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to you.