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Speaker 1: It is time for another episode of Cowboys Crosstalk. Shannon

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Speaker 1: gross Man in the ship here along side me in

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Speaker 1: person at the Star, my co host on the little

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Speaker 1: podcast we do on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Great

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton. How are you today? Nate and Grant show.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk behind you a bet Okay, thank thank you Nate.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that here in just a minute. I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm with you. Over at the mother Ship.

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Speaker 1: We have Mike Fisher. How you doing, mikey holding it

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Speaker 1: down over at one oh five three, the fan outstanding man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me and I am u. My My

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Speaker 1: history with Nate Newton is how about that. There you

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Speaker 1: go myself. I'm proud to be a part of this.

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Speaker 1: My history with Nate Newton is golden. So I'm it's

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Speaker 1: always fun to spend an hour with Nate Newton. Well

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Speaker 1: great and that you know what, Nate, you're one of

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Speaker 1: you follow in this category. There or a handful, maybe

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Speaker 1: a couple of handfuls of guys in cowboys history that

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Speaker 1: you can you can call them by one name and

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Speaker 1: you know exactly who you're talking about. Troy Immet. Yeah, Nate,

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Speaker 1: we have one on the show tonight with hey Man,

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Speaker 1: let's welcome to the show. The great Dat. That's all

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Speaker 1: I need to really say that. God, how you're doing

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Speaker 1: siting a long time? No see, I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: are doing well. Big Nate, always great seeing you. It's

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Speaker 1: an honor be with you. Mike, Yes, Sir, Dad Elvis

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Speaker 1: share only the big big entertainers like that. It makes

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Speaker 1: sure that is not a k in a because I

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Speaker 1: think that t is sading. Well. Yeah, you know you

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Speaker 1: know what's funny about That's like I you don't know,

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Speaker 1: all my life I've been called all this day Dad

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Speaker 1: dot and all of a sudden here the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years has been Dad, I'm not Da. What have

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Speaker 1: you been up to? Man? I haven't seen you since

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Speaker 1: training camp probably four three four years ago. Where are

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Speaker 1: you living and what you're up to these days? I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm back in the Dallas, Dallas metroplex here in Great Buying, Texas.

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Speaker 1: I was fortunate to be awarded a franchise z of

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Speaker 1: a Chick fil A. So the last four years I've

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I'm four years into it and finally get

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Speaker 1: four years to um build a team. You know. The

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Speaker 1: concepts I use is very similar to what I've learned

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Speaker 1: So you've been there for four years? Have you? Have

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Speaker 1: that early on. It's a training system that we go

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Speaker 1: through and I think I got a checklist, a check

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Speaker 1: But I think I did pass that. Okay, okay, good,

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Speaker 1: good good. If you ever needed help in the kitchen,

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Speaker 1: you know Nate, Nate slimmed down a little bit from

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Speaker 1: his playing days, but he can he can stay house

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Speaker 1: thing is that in football you get to practice, make mistakes,

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Speaker 1: Right right in our business, it's it's a game day

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Speaker 1: you've had plenty of chances to watch Cowboys football this year.

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Speaker 1: So what do you see what There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: things obviously that are wrong with this team right now.

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Speaker 1: But you know, there's so many things. But I think

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Speaker 1: six games into it, the division is not good. You

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Speaker 1: watching him as the linebackers, I always do. Smith's been

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Speaker 1: heard a lot quite a bit. Mike will get to

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Speaker 1: You have to have hope otherwise you might as well

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Speaker 1: not show up to work. And that goes for every profession,

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Speaker 1: no matter how dark it looks. Nate's point about the numbers.

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Speaker 1: They are minor twelve in turnovers turnover ratio. That's almost

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Speaker 1: when it coming from your point of view, Nate, what

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Speaker 1: for the last two days. This is like covering the

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Speaker 1: White House. Yes, it's I mean that one. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you that. This is where Shannon gros will always be better.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Shannon Gross is terrific. You know, I

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Speaker 1: love you. Nate Newton never did tell me about the

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Speaker 1: White House. Never did. But but don't you agree Shannon

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Speaker 1: that Dallas Cowboys dot Com is gigantic and and with

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Speaker 1: all due respect to our love for our country and politics,

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Speaker 1: I think more people like the Cowboys and care than

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Speaker 1: what's what's happening in whatever president's White House on a

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Speaker 1: given day. This is important, man, This is this is

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Speaker 1: football religion. And of course Dat and Nate are are

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Speaker 1: two guys that have stood at the top of the pulpit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we talk about it all the time. You know,

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Speaker 1: and that's that star carries a lot, a lot of weight,

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Speaker 1: both good and bad. I mean, it's very scrutinized. Things

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Speaker 1: that normally wouldn't be a story even locally, with a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams in any sport their national news. When

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Speaker 1: when it happens to the Cowboys. So it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a good thing, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's it's a not so good thing. If this happens

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Speaker 1: in in you know, Jacksonville or somewhere else, are angle

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Speaker 1: sale words, right, But yeah, not even a story. I learned.

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Speaker 1: I learned a long time ago. If Dale Hellistre had

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Speaker 1: a hangnail, I better have a story on it, Fellas.

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Speaker 1: Let's take our second break. We had a new quarterback

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Speaker 1: this game, Andy Dalton started his first game as a Cowboy.

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Speaker 1: I want to get your all three of your opinions.

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Speaker 1: You know, the offense didn't do a whole lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: Zeke contributed that, and you know, kudos to Zeke for

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Speaker 1: owning up after the game and putting it on his

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Speaker 1: shoulders and say, hey, I've got to be better. But

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Speaker 1: is Dak that good? Is this offensive line that bad

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Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton didn't have a chance. Obviously, they've got

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Speaker 1: to change the game plan a little bit. I want

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Speaker 1: to get into a little bit of that. Got another

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Speaker 1: game this week against the team in Washington. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about that, and I don't know, maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: get some good football stories out of Dat Win and

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton before we get off this show. But let's

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Speaker 1: take our next break. When we come back. All of

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Speaker 1: that and more, you're listening to Cowboys Cross Talk on

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Back back to s WBC

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Speaker 1: mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk about broadcasting live from Dallas. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Nate Newton and

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Speaker 1: Shannon Groves holding it down at the Star Frisco Studios.

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Speaker 1: Mike Fisher at one oh five three the Fans Studios,

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Speaker 1: Dat Wins somewhere in the Metroplex over in the grape

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Speaker 1: Vine area. We are back. You're listening to cowboys cross

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Speaker 1: talk that you look really you look really intense during

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Speaker 1: the breaks. Are you doing homework? What are you doing? Oh? No,

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Speaker 1: my nephew text me and he's first year in college.

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Speaker 1: My daughter does acrobatics and plant Also, when I dropped

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Speaker 1: a planet about three four times a weekend, plano so funny.

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Speaker 1: Thought of him for some reasons, I had want to

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Speaker 1: text him just to see when we can grab dinner.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I was doing. Oh okay, I thought

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Speaker 1: you were breaking down film or something. In the break,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna see what we needed to talk about,

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Speaker 1: watch this film communication. Oh all right, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Nate, We'll start with you. Okay, what did

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Speaker 1: you see with the Andy Dalton. I had a lot

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Speaker 1: of hope for for Andy going into this game. I

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Speaker 1: know you you were a proponent of Andy into You're

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Speaker 1: still there. You're still there. Okay, what happened this week?

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Speaker 1: Uh held a ball too long? Receivers wasn't a Chris

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Speaker 1: And when I felt we lost the right guard, uh

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Speaker 1: Zach that that that that that messed up our office line.

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Speaker 1: I called him the president because he is the guy

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Speaker 1: that keeps this line cool. And come, Zack Martin, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Zack Martin, you know. And that's why I've always called

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Speaker 1: him the president because when he came in, I thought

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Speaker 1: he put the finishing touches. He came in a professional,

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Speaker 1: you know, and he plays like one. He handles himself

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Speaker 1: like one. So when that went down, I knew that

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Speaker 1: Vance Joseph the Defense Accordings will really start bringing it,

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Speaker 1: and he did and we couldn't answer. But I also

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Speaker 1: thought that Coach Moore and uh in the quarterback what

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Speaker 1: you call him rocket cross cross rocket, No, no rifle,

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Speaker 1: we call it whatever his name is. I believe in him. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know it's somewhere in the missile family. But that's

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the one. But believe I believe that this

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Speaker 1: week him and the Office of Coordinator and office blying

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Speaker 1: coach would devise something We'll see a much better Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton All right, Mike, do you have that much faith

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Speaker 1: in Andy? Yeah? I hope that the Cowboys were fibbing

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Speaker 1: when they said, oh, Dak, Andy, we don't have to

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Speaker 1: change much, because obviously that's wrong that that wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: fair to Andy Dalton to not change much. I covered

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers when I was a very young

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Speaker 1: threw whatever twelve interceptions and Bill wallsh went to him

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Speaker 1: and said, let's go study those, and they discovered that

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Speaker 1: like seven of the interceptions were all on the same route.

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Speaker 1: So Bill Wall says that Joe Montana, why do you think,

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Speaker 1: why do you think seven of the twelve interceptions were

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Speaker 1: on the same route? And he goes, because coach, I

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Speaker 1: can't throw that route. Oh well, then they tore the

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Speaker 1: page out of the playbook. They have to do that here.

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Speaker 1: With Andy Dalton. There's things that he can do like Dak.

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Speaker 1: There's things he can't do like Dak. And I agree

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Speaker 1: with Nate. I think another week now of retailoring what

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Speaker 1: this offense can be will help Andy Dalton. But the

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Speaker 1: offensive line that finished that game and played most of

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Speaker 1: that game and won't have Brandon Knight in it this week.

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Speaker 1: Of course, their average age is twenty two, thank you,

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Speaker 1: and their combined NFL experience is four years, all of

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Speaker 1: them combined. So if and I don't say this disrespectfully,

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Speaker 1: and I'm only trying to be funny a little bit,

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Speaker 1: if you took those same five guys and rolled him

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Speaker 1: into Ohio State, okay, fine, you'd have a good offensive line.

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Speaker 1: You have a bunch of twenty two year old senior

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Speaker 1: they're twenty two, but twenty two year old seniors, and

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Speaker 1: they would be really good in college football. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to be really good at twenty two with no experience. Here,

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Speaker 1: Nate knows that. Oh man, you're preaching, man, But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I can go on and on, but Shannon continue on.

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Speaker 1: Let's hold that thought because we got a pretty good

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Speaker 1: former offensive lineman in the room here with me. So

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Speaker 1: I want to get your take on that before we

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Speaker 1: do that. Dad, Andy Dalton's performance, what are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: You got a little hope going into the rest of

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Speaker 1: the season. I do have. I do have a lot

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Speaker 1: of hope on him. I know he's a well seasoned

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Speaker 1: veteran player in this league, so he knows the ins

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Speaker 1: and out going into the game. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: had good field position as she's like anything we do

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Speaker 1: as athletes. As you you play him't played in a while.

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Speaker 1: You're coming in, you have a lot of your showld,

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Speaker 1: a lot of things going through your head, and you

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Speaker 1: want to have some rhythm. And unfortunately they didn't get

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Speaker 1: any rhythm, but didn't get any positive plays, any getting

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Speaker 1: anything to build on. And I think that was a

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Speaker 1: big part in my evaluation shot on him is that

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Speaker 1: he didn't get a fair shot. It's unfortunately, Zeke fumble

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Speaker 1: a couple of times and you were behind the eight ball.

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Speaker 1: Now the game plays change, I've opened up a little

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Speaker 1: bit more and he wasn't comfortable an office. The line

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Speaker 1: went down and then the office line is that's good

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Speaker 1: and give enough for timing. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: the fact that the end and I think another week

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Speaker 1: of practice timing with the receivers. I think playing in

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Speaker 1: the team mom coming up. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting what's gonna happen. But I think that's where he's at.

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Speaker 1: He'll get better because he'll know, hey, what did I

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Speaker 1: do wrong? What did I do good? And let's let's

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Speaker 1: build on the good ones and let's get the bad

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Speaker 1: one to move on. Nate, the offensive line looks completely different.

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Speaker 1: You went from one of the best offensive lines in

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Speaker 1: the league a year and a half ago. A year ago.

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Speaker 1: Now it's completely different. Yes it is. Don't even know

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Speaker 1: who's on the team really, who's starting From week to week?

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Speaker 1: What what do they do? They're going into They're going

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Speaker 1: into They're going into Washington this week. They got dogs

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Speaker 1: Washington on that on the front seven. I mean the

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Speaker 1: games that I have watched, What are they gonna do

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Speaker 1: this week? The same thing I did after we gave

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Speaker 1: up a level of sex against Philadelphia? You remember that, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I do you your coach remember it? Yeah? Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: concussion call. He had to live through it. I said

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Speaker 1: it earlier and I'm glad to repeat it. The offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: the head coach and offensive line coach has to get together.

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Speaker 1: You have enough experience there to be in a situation

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Speaker 1: where you can get these guys serviceable. These guys will

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Speaker 1: only get better, especially if the offensive line coach continue

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Speaker 1: to help them be in better situations. And don't you

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Speaker 1: guys agree, Joe Philman, Probably he's doing a pretty good job.

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Speaker 1: He's doing a great job. I'm shanning to tell you

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Speaker 1: every week, I'd say, great job, Coach Philman, you said

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Speaker 1: it's so perfect, Mike. Twenty two year olds, if there

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Speaker 1: was anywhere else in college, they we will be telling

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Speaker 1: about number one first round picks. But they're grown men

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Speaker 1: that they'vein the face that our number one picks for Washington.

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Speaker 1: This team will not be the same team five weeks

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Speaker 1: from now. I don't know what the record will be,

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Speaker 1: but this offensive line would be a much much better

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Speaker 1: offensive line five years. All we have to do is

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Speaker 1: not put the ball on the ground, and the quarterback

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Speaker 1: has to get the ball out of his head. Guys,

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Speaker 1: there's a living example in Date Newton. How what were

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Speaker 1: you when you were twenty one years old? Were you

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Speaker 1: in Washington? Are you still in college? And I was

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Speaker 1: probably about four seventy. I don't mean yeah, when I

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Speaker 1: was when I came into the league, like twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I was a youngster, yes, sir, And I was at

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Speaker 1: Washington a free agent, yes, sir. Didn't work. Didn't work,

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Speaker 1: didn't Dad Holks didn't work? I mean it took you

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Speaker 1: a while to become the wall first a year and

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Speaker 1: groomed up a guy named Marty. He helped me so much.

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Speaker 1: And then when I came back to the NFL, it

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Speaker 1: was back to It was to the Dallas Cowboys, and hey,

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Speaker 1: and here I sit man talking to you great guys,

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Speaker 1: right right, Yeah. I think one thing that gives you

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Speaker 1: a little hope with this offensive line is in years past,

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Speaker 1: one guy would get hurt and they would forget how

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Speaker 1: to block, they would forget everything. Yes, now you got

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Speaker 1: to you guys that you don't even know their last names,

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Speaker 1: never played together, and you're keeping your quarterback up right

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Speaker 1: at least, Yes, probably got to get the ball out

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Speaker 1: a little bit quicker this week than he did last week.

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Speaker 1: It's schemes that will help you. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how he is as a booter. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how he is. Is just just moving two steps over,

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Speaker 1: setting the strength one way out the other. Uh. What

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Speaker 1: you have to do. And I've seen it with the

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Speaker 1: great great teams over the years. They start out max

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Speaker 1: protecting and as the game get going, and as like

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Speaker 1: that said, as you start flowing, then you start releasing

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Speaker 1: guys off that line and getting them into the routes.

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Speaker 1: But you start the game protecting yourself and giving you

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Speaker 1: a quarterback a chance. You know, yes, the defense has

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00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: an advantage because two man route, three man routes, but

639
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta get a rhythm. So this is

640
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: where we start and no turnovers. No, yeah. I think

641
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: in my two points with this is that those guys

642
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: are young, inexperience obviously, and now they all week going

643
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: to hear in the Washington and say, oh man, that's

644
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: the best, one of the best front seven we're gonna face.

645
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a little bit challenging. And how

646
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: do you get those guys to get confidence? Is that

647
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: a mask protext that just what Nate said? Or hey

648
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: do you put two tight ends in and just help

649
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: them out? I don't know what it is, what the

650
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: philosophy are they going to come in? And I still

651
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: go back to Bill Parcels and sometimes when I think

652
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: about coaching, I said he was so good because he

653
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: will break down tip and said, Okay, here's my strength.

654
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: If they have a great front seven. If I say,

655
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: if I said it to that Sam linebacker, to that Nickel,

656
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: they're not as good as they were with the front seven.

657
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: So now we go eleven personnel. Okay, we opened up

658
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess what cowboys have to be

659
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: good receivers. Oh, you might start with the eleven person.

660
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: I have a tidy n I don't know, I don't

661
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: know how they're gonna do it. But stuff like that

662
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: kind of makes you think a little bit because now

663
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: that's something that Hey, okay's game planning putting your team

664
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: in the best position to succeed, even though right now

665
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: uncertainty about confidence facing the good front seven? Sweet, how

666
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: did you meet that that? Do you do anything as

667
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: a defense differently? Do you do you game plan any

668
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: different if you're the if you're Washington knowing that this

669
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: is a banged up young offensive line with the quarterback

670
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: that's that you know hasn't played with these guys a lot.

671
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Arizona just pined their ears back and just win.

672
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, do you just you change the game plan

673
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: any this week to Washington? Well, if he didn't he

674
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: didn't have the three receivers that we have, I think

675
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: that will not change the game plan. Meeting that Hey,

676
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: I'll break down all the films saying, hey, what hurt

677
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: them at the end of that game or did in

678
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: that game against Arizona? Let let them show me that

679
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: they fixed it or they're able to stop it. If

680
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: it's five man rush, six mans rush, whatever it is

681
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: that they did, whatever combination they did. Uh in the

682
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: back end. But if they if if it was without

683
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: those receivers, but if you have those three receivers, because

684
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna put them on the island. Because if you

685
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: bring pressure, guess what it's if there's two wins to it, right,

686
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a man the man coverage. Somebody's gonna

687
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: make a play and I take that shot, but up.

688
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: But for me, um, Washington, it will change much. They

689
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: will come and they're gonna pressure early, and they're gonna

690
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: try to say, hey, proofs there, you guys can stop it.

691
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: He'd be dull. Guess what you know, man, We're gonna

692
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: let him bleed until you guys fix it. But yeah,

693
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: let me throw this in. Go back to the Cleveland game,

694
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. Right, They just they told Miles Garrett, let's

695
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: let's which one of these five guys you want? Yeah,

696
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: and they found one and that's where Miles Garrett lined

697
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: up and he might not line up there the rest

698
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: of the year. Washington can do some of the same thing.

699
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: They will figure out which guy they want against which guy,

700
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: and they'll move. Now, Chase Young, I think Chase Young

701
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: is a little dinged up, but I assume he'll play

702
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: and he'll he'll go after whoever the easiest to go after.

703
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: That's tough, you know, I'm which you Dad, which you? Uh, Mike.

704
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: The thing you here is they have the front four

705
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: to where they can line up and play you man

706
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: to man. That's the scary thing now. And Kendall full

707
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: of London Collins and all of Landon Collins and all

708
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: those guys on the back end duplicate what Buddha, Baker,

709
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: Kirkpatrick and Peterson. Can they duplicate that? And that's what

710
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: that's what Dad is saying. Can their corners duplicate and

711
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: their stays duplicate what happened? Now? We know up front

712
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: they can, but can they do it in their linebackers

713
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: and in their secondary hopefully? The answer to the question

714
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: is that's why they're one in five. They are one five.

715
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: You know, they're not the ninety three Cowboys, they're the

716
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: twenty twenty Washington WTF wfts. There's there's still one in five. Yeah, yeah,

717
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: but you know what they're probably looking at their offense

718
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: like we look at our DF no doubt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

719
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: Some of us are saying, good Washington, and some of

720
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: them are saying, all right, let's tell you what. Let's

721
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: take our last break. When we come back, Let's talk

722
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: about the game a little bit and maybe some other

723
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: things when we come back. You're listening to how Boys

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Speaker 1: and we need you in this conversation. We need you

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00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: solely focused on this show and this read this last segment.

733
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Speaker 1: You got it right that time, very very non offensive

734
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: that time, very non offensive. Okay, all right, let's get

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00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: back to it. Let's talk a little a little Washington.

736
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: I almost say the wrong word when I call them

737
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: by the team name the team in Washington, Uh, Cowboys football.

738
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: This weekend. A guy that you're you're familiar with, Nate

739
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: Jack del Rio is their defensive coordinator. Uh that did

740
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: you play with You didn't play with Jack, did you? No? No,

741
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: I did not know that he was coaching. He was

742
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: coaching and that okay, that game man, he was a

743
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: special team coach. Okay, So but you guys are both

744
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: familiar with him. What is he gonna bring to the

745
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: game and to the Cowboys this weekend? He's gonna He's

746
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: on that film right now. Uh, you could tell Jack

747
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: knew the game when we played. Him and Ken Norton

748
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: would played together, and uh, they were pretty smart guys.

749
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: Uh they they they could free read things pretty good.

750
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: They always helped their defense, you know, Uh, theirn get

751
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: guys lined up. And plus they would also you know,

752
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: uh that you probably this type of guy too, where

753
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: they they would call up the strength of the defense

754
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: and if need be helped with the back end coverage,

755
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, with the safety or south. But more importantly,

756
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: they were like red strong right, strong, right, And they

757
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: give you a couple of plays off that form. Be

758
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: awareness to be aware of that. Be awareness, be aware

759
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: of that. And that's when I finally realize It's a

760
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: difference in a lot of linebackers. Some guys just get

761
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: you lined up and they're thinking about their job, and

762
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: some guys can alert you. You know, Woody was good

763
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: at route combinations. Watch what this? Watch it this, hey man,

764
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: if you want to go home this, I got your covered.

765
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, some guys got it like that, you know.

766
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering if fish hurt and think that

767
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: some of them guys may have it like that. You

768
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: wish Sean Lee was playing. Yeah, John Lee has it.

769
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: John Lee has it all day long. Yeah, Yeah, you

770
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: need him, You need him involved somehow. The Jack del

771
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: Real thing, by the way, another great old anonymous source

772
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: for me is Jack Dell Real. Yeah. What I think

773
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: him and Ron Rivere have done is bring to a

774
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Washington organization that is really so often kind of a

775
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: cluster bleep and and the record is not good, and

776
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: they're not good, and they're not going to be good

777
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: for a while. But but it's it's two guys that

778
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: just are good, solid, know what they're doing guys, and

779
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: you don't you don't want a clown show, Which is

780
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: the phrase, by the way, phrase that I've used here

781
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: in Dallas now a couple of times, and I don't

782
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: regret it yet, but I think Washington has with those

783
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: two guys in charge, they are now a more respectable

784
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: organization than they've been. Yeah, they're both. They're both the

785
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: fourth my linebackers in the national football theygue, and they're

786
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: building that team through defense that we want to say

787
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: five first round draft picks there on the defensive side

788
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: of the ball. With Jack, I think he's licking his

789
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: chops right now just to see, Okay, hey, who we

790
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: gonna attack. We're watching all these film all the way

791
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: back to Cleveland to Arizona. I think they's gonna find

792
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: all the weaknesses until the Cowboys fix it and stop it.

793
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: Are they're gonna stop it? Yeah, He's gonna attack until

794
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: he until you prove to him or beat him with

795
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: the deep ball until he has them back off a

796
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: little bit. But that's his mentality all along as his

797
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: mottos that hey, we're gonna tack and be aggressive and

798
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna play smart football until they beat us. We're

799
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: gonna put the pressure on the quarterback to be to

800
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: win the game. Dad, who who's smarter? Defensive players? Are

801
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: offensive players? Who is a smart? So I think it's

802
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: all you know this, we're we're easier for us because

803
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: we are running to and reacting where they have to know. Hey,

804
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: hey they're disguising this and they gotta lined up and

805
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna stamped the ball. Hey where did that safety go?

806
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: What did the corner do? So there's a lot of adjustments.

807
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: So you gotta take a lot of stuff on the

808
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: offensive side, I say, officive player has to be more

809
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: i Q has to be high on the offenside of the

810
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: the ball than the defenside the ball. Yeah, Fish, you

811
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: brought up this up earlier. How difference does this defense

812
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense look if Sean Lee's on the field at

813
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: least you know part at the time. You know, it's smarter. Um,

814
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: I would I would bounce back to you. How difference

815
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: might they How different might this defense looked if they

816
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't have changed defenses, changing defenses without a training camp.

817
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: That's never been done obviously. I wonder if they could

818
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: go back and undo that, that they would say, you know,

819
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: what we're going to install are the defense that we

820
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: really want next year? Because some of the personnel is

821
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: the same as last year. A lot of it's the

822
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: same as last year, and they're way worse than they

823
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: were last year. I think I think they should have

824
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: simply kept the same defense. He kept the same offense.

825
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: So there's no there's no right or wrong on how

826
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: to do it. I think they're hurried to install a

827
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: new defense has really hurt them and to take things

828
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: full circle is at the center of this cowboy crisis

829
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: in confidence and conflict. Yeah, and it's funny that you

830
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: said that might because member coach Parcel came in and

831
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: he wanted to change that three four guess what will

832
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: last year? Except for a year and as a lot

833
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: of teams you're three to four base or your four

834
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: to three, more than likely you change up on third

835
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: down is going to be an out front if you're

836
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: four to three, if you're three to four, guests, what

837
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: y'all your your nickel packer is going to be a

838
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: four four two five, which is technically a four to three.

839
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: I can change back, just go back to the nickel

840
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: on and at the same linebacker and make it very

841
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: simple and keep it that way. So it's not that

842
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: complex to go back to what they did last year

843
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: from a three four, it's not that complex. Remember last

844
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: year person might be different. Marinelli got criticized for being

845
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: having it's too vanilla, but but there's nothing wrong with vanilla.

846
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: If the eleven guys know what they're doing, then don't

847
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: break right. You know what's amazing, fellas is we were

848
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Speaker 1: led to believe that it would stay of four three

849
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: and put a few concepts in, Like you're talking that

850
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: when you were you not thinking that this offseason? Two

851
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: Fish said, he said, we're fown team. Right, it will

852
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: and maybe they are four down linemen, but they're not attacking.

853
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: They're catching, and they're catching a lot of y'ads running.

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00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: You know, so, Nate, you're you're confident in five weeks

855
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: this offensive line is gonna look performed different than they

856
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: are now they are. Do you have that same confidence

857
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: that this defense can learn as they go and they

858
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: will be better five weeks from now? Or is this

859
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: just what you have on the field basis on how

860
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: many snaps done Terry pol get if done, Terry getting

861
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. I don't feel good if you

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00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: let Tyrone Crawford, who's starting to get better. You let

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00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods who can do his thirty reps. If this

864
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: kid Gallimore can can attack and not catch, but attack.

865
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: I think they can get better. These are grown men.

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00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: Like you said, they're young men, but they're grown. If

867
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: not done Terry, but decrease it snaps that the Hamilton

868
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: kid played more. I saw a better team for the

869
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: first three series with him in there, with with Layton

870
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: in there, guy that can at least communicate and get

871
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: them lined up and letting Jalen run free, they will

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00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: be better. But if they continue with the same guys

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00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: led by Done Terry, which he probably didn't get a

874
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: lot of snaps, and I'm probably just two through with him,

875
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, and holding something against them because he was

876
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: supple to have been a veteran guy that I really

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00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: bragged on a whole lot this all season. And uh,

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Speaker 1: if they get him out of there, I think they

879
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: can be better. Let's go around the horn before we

880
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: get out of here. Fish the Cowboys win if and

881
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: then what's your score prediction? I am so tired of

882
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: getting burned by picking the Cowboys. They are owing a

883
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: million against the spread, first of all, if you're a gambler,

884
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna change my tune. I am not going

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00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: to pick the Cowboys to win. And I'm gonna hope

886
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: that I'm wrong. I'll go Washington twenty seven, twenty four

887
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: and I must get this in the The smartest group

888
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: outside of quarterbacks are smart offensive lineman. Our collect that

889
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: is a collection of different brains that all come together.

890
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: It's a that's the most philosophical room in the building.

891
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: Thank you right, it's it's five. It's ten philosophers, old

892
00:55:50,760 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: country philosopher over here, old pot smoking philosopher over there.

893
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 1: Got on your a minute left, Nate, Cowboys win if

894
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: in your score no turnovers. This thing is built run offense.

895
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: If Zeke getting in, get a hundred yards and don't

896
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: turn the ball over and polop beer part it is,

897
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: they win the game, all right? That that was gonna win.

898
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: If defense gets a turnovers so I can see him takeaways.

899
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: We need get some takeaways and the Cowboys will do

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00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: finna offensively, and I think the Cows will win twenty

901
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: seven fourteen. There you go, well, fellas, this has been great. Fish,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Nate, always a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: sit next to you. Dad, Thanks Dak, whatever they want

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Speaker 1: to call you. It was great. Man. We gotta do

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Speaker 1: this again. It's good seeing your face. Good here in

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Speaker 1: your insight, a lot of fun for the show. You've

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