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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The NBA playoffs are underway again, this endless NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Four out of seven now four out of seven, four

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Speaker 2: sometime in June. So along road ahead for these NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We also have the NFL Draft less than two weeks away,

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Speaker 2: and Bucky's gonna break it all down. He's gonna give

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Speaker 2: you every single pick in the draft coming up on

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Speaker 2: the show today. No, I'm not gonna do that to you,

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Speaker 2: but he did see your mark draft three points. So

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Speaker 2: we're going to get into some of that. Some of

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Speaker 2: But right at the top. I just want to mention

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Speaker 2: today is Jackie Robinson Day in Major League Baseball. Back

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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty seven, on this date, Jackie Robinson made

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Speaker 2: still very much involved with the Jackie Robinson Foundation. She

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Speaker 2: carries on his legacy. But trying to put perspective on

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Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson's impact, not just in baseball, not just in

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Speaker 2: in many ways, it really began with the emergence of

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Speaker 2: of everything that this man had to go through to

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think as time has gone on and

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Speaker 3: Time, absolutely very impressive. It's impressive to sacrifice that he

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Speaker 3: that he loved as a baseball dad. My son plays

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Speaker 3: baseball was like my first love. This is always a

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Speaker 2: You know when we talk about greatest athletes of all time, right,

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Speaker 2: as an all round athlete. Let's put some perspective here.

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Speaker 2: So when Jackie Robinson went to UC, he started his

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Speaker 2: sr Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider. We're going to get

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Speaker 2: sense of urgency. That's my biggest problem with the NBA playoffs. Look,

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Speaker 2: it's just the idea of four rounds, the best four

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Speaker 3: I think it's a nice appetizer, right, So I see

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Speaker 3: it a little differently. It's a nice advertiser for me,

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Speaker 3: With everyone that's been kind of touting the virtues of

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Speaker 3: But I think going all the way back to God,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember if that format was two out of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had that unprecedented run of two teams facing

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's get into some of these playoff series. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: no surprise the sixers, I probably will sweet the Nets.

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Speaker 3: Experience is a factor because the experienced guys understand one

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Speaker 2: And by the way, that's true of any sport, and

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Speaker 3: A little bit. Everyone puts a little more time on tasks.

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Speaker 5: But she is much nicer.

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Speaker 4: My mom said that she was like, I just thought

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Speaker 5: And I was like, well, the parents should be responsible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but my mom, My mom is a

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Speaker 5: No questions asked.

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Speaker 4: the Atlanta Hawks, and right now they're up fifty nine

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Speaker 4: to thirty two with four minutes to go in the

436
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Speaker 4: first half.

437
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Speaker 5: Jason Tatum leading all scores.

438
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Speaker 4: He's got eighteen points and five rebounds so far in

439
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Speaker 4: the game.

440
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: And for the.

441
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: Philadelphia seventy six Ers and the Brooklyn Nets, it was

442
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 4: Philly who came out on top one. Twenty one to

443
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 4: one on one was the final score. Seventy six Ers

444
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: hit twenty one out of forty three three pointers, James

445
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 4: Harden hit seven of those three pointers, and Doc Rivers

446
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 4: had nothing but nice things to say.

447
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Speaker 3: James I thought one of his best games at being

448
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: I guess a catcher where he's calling the perfect game.

449
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 4: He ended with a double double, twenty three points and

450
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 4: thirteen assists. MVP Canada Joel and beat Into with twenty

451
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Speaker 4: six points and five rebounds.

452
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Speaker 5: In Major League.

453
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Speaker 4: Baseball, Oriols right now have taken the lead over the

454
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Speaker 4: White Sox five to four. Bottom of the seventh. The

455
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 4: Pirates and the Cardinals are tied. They're about to start

456
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: the ninth inning in Saint Louis, tied at three apiece.

457
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: Blue Jays, who snapped the race is winning streak yesterday.

458
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Speaker 5: They did not break the record and win fourteen in

459
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Speaker 5: a row. No, they lost.

460
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 4: So the Blue Jays right now are beating the Rays

461
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 4: again three to one, bottom of the fifth inning. Birds

462
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: and Padres tied bottom of the first at two apiece.

463
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 5: Is up on the Mets one.

464
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 4: Zero bottom of the second. The Angels beating the Red

465
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Speaker 4: Sox four two, bottom of the first. A lot of

466
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Speaker 4: scoring nowadays and I love it. Diving backs up on

467
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Speaker 4: the Marlins one zero bottom of the first.

468
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 5: The Giants were beating the.

469
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Speaker 4: Tigers by five runs, and then the Tigers rallied, came

470
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Speaker 4: out on top, and ten inning, seven to six was

471
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Speaker 4: the final score.

472
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Speaker 5: The Yankees outscored the Twins six to one.

473
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Speaker 4: Pitcher Domingo Hermann retired his first sixteen batters for New York,

474
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Speaker 4: and the manager of the Twins was ejected because they

475
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Speaker 4: were looking at her at Hermann's hands for like a

476
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 4: really long time. And there's a video where the umpire

477
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 4: is like telling him and you can read that he

478
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: tells him, you have to wash your hands, but we couldn't.

479
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 5: Tell anything else what else he was saying.

480
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: And then after the lengthy conversation, the Twins manager, Rocco Baldelli,

481
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: I think it's his name, he went out there.

482
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 5: He got mad because he was like you could tell.

483
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: He was like, if you are looking at his hands

484
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 4: for so long, then something is wrong.

485
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 5: Why are you letting him go back in the game.

486
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 5: And then he got ejected and the Yankees won six

487
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 5: to one.

488
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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Moncey, I love your mom.

489
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't even know your mom. I love your mom.

490
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 5: I know you know, sweet sweet woman.

491
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Speaker 2: Sweet woman. Indeed, all right, let's by the way, you

492
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: mentioned that you think the Celtics could sweep the Hawks. Yes,

493
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: the Hawks may just bail out of this series right now.

494
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: I mean, this is I mean, this is just ridiculous.

495
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: I mean fifty nine two with four minutes to go

496
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: still in the first half, so the Hawks should win

497
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: absolutely no resistance. I'll tell you another series that may

498
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: go four straight. I think the Suns could sweep the

499
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: Clipper No why why?

500
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Speaker 4: Why?

501
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you Monci. First of all, the Suns

502
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: and Bucky you know this, they have not lost the

503
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: game with Kevin Durant in the lineup. Only eight games,

504
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: how much of a sample size. But he's ready to go.

505
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 2: But this Clippers team, you know, PG is out until

506
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: his knee is one hundred percent. Yes, so if it's

507
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent, he ain't playing. I mean that was

508
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: I reported this in LATV last night. Yeah, he'll be

509
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: back when he's one hundred percent. Looking back to that

510
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: knee injury, he's not going to be one hundred percent.

511
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: I just again, this is a dysfunctional organization. Buckie, what

512
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: did you think of Doc Rivers? Every time I hear

513
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: Doc I'm twofold on Doc Rivers when he was the

514
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: coach of the Clippers. If you wonder why this guy

515
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: is so popular the media. If you're a media member,

516
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: you fall in love with Doc Rivers from day one

517
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: because he answers all the questions, he engages, He does

518
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: everything you would want if you're a member of the media,

519
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: and in return they treated nicely. But when you look

520
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: at all the teams that he have, especially with the Clippers,

521
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: that absolutely collapse in the post season, and then for

522
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: him to claim it, well, they didn't have really, really

523
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: a lot of chemistry, didn't have a lot of camaraderie

524
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: on those teams. I'm like, I'm sorry, isn't that your

525
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: job is the coach to bring the team together. I

526
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: just I'm not a Doc Rivers guy. I just I'm

527
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: just not. I mean, he's a super nice guy and

528
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: a great guy to deal with, but in terms of

529
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: being a top level coach, I don't see it.

530
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, it was. It wasn't the greatest look,

531
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: but I actually appreciated the honesty and the transparency. We

532
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: all wondered in LA what was wrong with this Clippers team.

533
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: This Clippers team is as talented as any in the

534
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: National Basketball Association, but they couldn't get over the hump,

535
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: and they did it with different pieces in different ports

536
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 3: and still couldn't figure it out. And so when he

537
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: finally revealed that, you know, the team didn't really get along.

538
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: They didn't like each other. Hard to win a title

539
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 3: when you don't like each other.

540
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: A lot of teams that don't get along the win

541
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: titles over the years.

542
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: You gotta have chemistry, though, man, you have to have

543
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: the chemistry and connectivity. Didn't know they weren't connected.

544
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Well, whose fault is that? Chris Paul's fault? Because he

545
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: was the point guard? Remember, I mean you already had

546
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: DeAndre Jordan, had Blake Griffin, right, and all of a sudden,

547
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: here comes Chris Paul, if not the best point guard

548
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: on a very short list of best point guards in

549
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: the NBA at the time. Is that to me? It

550
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: sounds like he's blaming Chris Paul.

551
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's necessarily blaming Chris Paul, but

552
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: I will say this, that locker room was many. It

553
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: was always something yeah, always something like just extra and

554
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: sometimes when you were the leader and you have a

555
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: prickly personality, yeah, you get all the blowback. And maybe

556
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: it was time to get someone that blowback. I don't know,

557
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: but it just seems like with Chris Ball and with

558
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: this team, and with him and Blake Griffin's relationship not

559
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: appearing to be solid at all, some of the other players,

560
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: they just mismanaged what they had. They had a lot

561
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: of re ticket and just didn't catch it all right.

562
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: So a lot of people are assuming that once you

563
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: gets to the postseason and flip a switch and boom,

564
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: you're ready to go, especially these veterans teams with Phoenix

565
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: or with Golden State, and a lot of people are

566
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: thinking the exact same thing with the Lakers. They open

567
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: up their series tomorrow against the Memphis Grizzlies. So before

568
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: we get to the Lakers, let's talk about two big

569
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: problems for the Lakers when they face this Grizzlies team.

570
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: Let's talk with Jaron Jackson, who probably is the defensive

571
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: player of the aere who was announced one of the finalists.

572
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen him in action, he's as big

573
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: as Anthony Davis. He's younger than Anthony Davis. In any ways,

574
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: he's Anthony Davis's worst nightmare. But then the bigger nightmare

575
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: is Jean Morin because when you don't have anybody to

576
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: protect the rim and the obviously the Lakers don't because

577
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: it's been layup city against their non defense pretty much

578
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: all season long. And I know some people will say, well,

579
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: if you look at their defensive numbers, they're better than

580
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: you think. I'm going eyeball test because when TA games

581
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: are aggressive going to the hoop against the Lakers, there

582
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: seems to be little resistance and Ja Morant is as

583
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: good as any player in this league from the perimeter

584
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: that can drive and get his shots inside. So let's

585
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: let's talk about a D versus Jackson. How do you

586
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: see that matchup going?

587
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: Man, this is it's tough. Yeah, it's tough. I mean

588
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: I like Ad. I think Ad is the guy. I

589
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: think Ad just has to kind of do his thing.

590
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: He has to be one of the best player's be

591
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: a top twenty player. He has that. He can do it.

592
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: He can do it.

593
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: He can do it.

594
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: Why he has to be aggressive.

595
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: He has to get it. If you can be honest,

596
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: they have to run the offense through him and not

597
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: through the King. They've run it through him, then he's

598
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: going to be engaged because he's gonna have a lot

599
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: of touches. He'll probably get bumped and bruised a little bit.

600
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 3: That put him on the fire line. That'll help him

601
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: get his rhythm. If he gets his rhythm, no one's

602
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: better than him.

603
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: Darvin Ham, I've said this many times. I am impressed

604
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: with the man. I'm not impressed with him as a coach.

605
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: He has done things over the course of his first

606
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: year as a head coach and It's a learning process.

607
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many years you played in the

608
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: league or an assist in the league. When he become

609
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: a head coach, you got to make decisions out there.

610
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: And I think unfortunately the Lakers are where they are

611
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: right now, barely sneaking into the playoffs because of some

612
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: of the things that Darvinham has yet to learn as

613
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: a head coach and managing the team. But what do

614
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: you think their plan of attack is with Jah Moran?

615
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: Do you do you just concede? Because this kid, already,

616
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: in a small sample size in the postseason, has shown

617
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: that as good as he is in the regular season,

618
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: he could be better in the postseason. And that suspension,

619
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: I think in a lot of ways only ignited him

620
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: to go next level. I expect him to be on

621
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: fire in this series. So how do you handle that

622
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: if you're the Lakers?

623
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Speaker 3: Yes, it'd be tough. Oh, hand deck. When it come

624
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: to handling him, He's gonna be animated, he's gonna be editated,

625
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: he's gonna be excited. You gotta kind of look internal,

626
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: got to look inside and kind of focus on what

627
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: you bought into to allow you to be a function

628
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: member of this team. You got to go back to

629
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: those principals, all right.

630
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: So then you have Lebron James at age thirty eight,

631
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: twenty years in the league, and we saw in that

632
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: play in game that they had to go extra time

633
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: and he got sloppy at the end of the game. Now,

634
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: he did dish off for what should have been the

635
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: game winning shot at the end of regulation. But do

636
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: you still believe that Lebron James, who has taken ten

637
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: different teams to the NBA Finals, still has enough gas

638
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: left in the tank to do a similar thing with

639
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: this Lakers team.

640
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, I think this is one where

641
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to dig down deep, but he's gonna

642
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: have to use his other players. He's gonna have to

643
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: use everybody. Everyone's gonna have to be great for this

644
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: team to get it done. They've shown flashes, they've eenmbedded

645
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: down to stretch, but it's still not a powerhouse team.

646
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: And so to me, big test will be how do

647
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: these teams look when they square off? How does he

648
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: get it going. Does he go early to try and

649
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: sit to the table or does he allow the other

650
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: guys to kind of do work and then he kind

651
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: of eases himself into the game. That's a big deal,

652
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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, here we go a long, long run for these

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, to say the least, but things get started

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Speaker 2: this weekend. So far, one blot in the books, another

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Speaker 2: blowout going on right now. This is what happens when

657
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Speaker 2: he have one seeds going against eights. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: series actually turned out to be series in this postseason

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Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, with Bucky in the

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Speaker 2: house and the draft less than two weeks away, we're

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Speaker 2: going to dive into some of the divisions around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: What are teams in the AFC West looking for We'll

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Speaker 2: break it down. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Joe Madden, and we're going to be around

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Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about managerial decisions, playoff games

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Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties. I can't wait for this, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harvin, Bucky Brooks, Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming alive

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Speaker 2: from the Tyraq dot Com studios. So we are less

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Speaker 2: than two weeks away from the NFL Draft, and we

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Speaker 2: have the i'm gonna say, dominant draft prognosticator in the world,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. By the way, one thing about Bucky and

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Speaker 2: if you follow Bucky and well most of you do,

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Speaker 2: but if you don't, and you check out his mock drafts,

686
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Speaker 2: they look very different than other mock drafts around the

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Speaker 2: NFL well, and I want to take advantage because they're Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we have listeners from everywhere anxious to hear what Bucky

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Speaker 2: has to say about what their team is going to

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Speaker 2: do in the upcoming NFL Draft. Before we even get

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Speaker 2: to any of that though, obviously quarterbacks are always the focus.

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Speaker 2: So I'm reading all these you know, odds makers and

693
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Speaker 2: everything else that it's a done deal that Bryce Young

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Speaker 2: will be the number one overall pick of the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 2: and Will Levis will be the third quarterback taken in

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Speaker 2: this draft, behind Bryce Young and CJ. Strout. And then

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at your latest mock draft, mock draft three

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Speaker 2: point zero. So this was a couple of weeks ago,

699
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Speaker 2: and you have the Carolina Panthers selecting CJ. Stroud number one,

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Speaker 2: with Bryce Young going to to the Texans. And then

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Speaker 2: I scan your first round and I don't see the

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Speaker 2: name Will Levis anywhere. M So again, let's again, Bucky

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Speaker 2: has been a personnel guy. He's worked in front offices,

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00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: he played the game, he's been a broadcast or writer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've covered it from every possible angle when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the NFL draft. Why are you thinking

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00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: differently than so many of the other so called experts

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Speaker 2: as we get ready for this NFL draft.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like, here's the thing. When you're doing

710
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Speaker 3: a mock draft, I'll give you a claim here, like

711
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Speaker 3: it's an exercise. It's an exercise, and just what teams

712
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Speaker 3: could be thinking what happens if one person goes off

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Speaker 3: the grid does something different than what all of us

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Speaker 3: on the outside are expecting. When it comes to Will

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Speaker 3: Levis directly, Will Levis and Anthony Richardson, I think just

716
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Speaker 3: we just have to be careful of falling in love

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Speaker 3: with like the high and the possibilities of all these

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks being like the class of nineteen eighty three when

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Speaker 3: John Lway and Dan Marino and Jim Kelly and all

720
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Speaker 3: those guys came and revolutionized the National Football League. I

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Speaker 3: don't see these guys in that light, And so with

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Speaker 3: Will Levis and Anthony richards And, I think the danger

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Speaker 3: is these are talented athletes, talented prospects, but they haven't

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Speaker 3: been consistent with consistently great players throughout their college years.

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Speaker 3: And so when you think about going up a level

726
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Speaker 3: the harder game, I'm just reluctant to hesitant to just say,

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Speaker 3: hey man, these guys are gonna be first round talents.

728
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Speaker 3: They can be franchise quarterbacks and those things. And I

729
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Speaker 3: know we've seen, you know, quarterbacks be pushed up, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of times when those quarterbacks have been pushed up,

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Speaker 3: it hasn't hurred that well for them.

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Speaker 2: Here's the biggest challenge I see evaluating any position, but

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Speaker 2: especially the quarterback position, because I'll go way back as

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Speaker 2: I often do on this show, to that nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: eight draft when the Indianapolis Colts had the first pick

736
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Speaker 2: and the Chargers moved up into the second pick, and

737
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Speaker 2: it was about Peyton Manning versus Ryan Leaf. Now we

738
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Speaker 2: laugh about it now, but at the time, and Bobby

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Speaker 2: bether Hall of Famer was then the general manager of

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Speaker 2: the San Diego Chargers, and I remember conversations with Bobby

741
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Speaker 2: trying to evaluate these two quarterbacks, and basically what he

742
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Speaker 2: was saying was the consensus at the time. Peyton Manning

743
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Speaker 2: essentially was a four year starter at Tennessee, so you

744
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Speaker 2: knew exactly what you were getting with Peyton Manning. On

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Speaker 2: the other hand, Ryan Leaf had started a couple of years,

746
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Speaker 2: came out of school early out of Washington State, led

747
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Speaker 2: him to their first Rose Bowl in almost seventy years.

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Speaker 2: And the argument was what you see in Manning is

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Speaker 2: as good as it's ever going to get. Ryan Leaf,

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Speaker 2: on the other hand, has barely tapped his potential. So

751
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Speaker 2: this argument about okay, you're evaluating guys, he say, And

752
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: then let's get back to Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 2: Is it possible that you say, all right, we've seen

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young. This is what you're going to get with

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young, but with Cej Stroud there may be more

756
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Speaker 2: meat on the bone. How hard is that to try

757
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Speaker 2: to evaluate what a guy's potential is five ten years

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Speaker 2: down the road.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's always difficult to evaluate like potential because

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Speaker 3: that's what it is. It's potential. It's unrealized production and performance.

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Speaker 3: Whereas what you find is you're more likely to get

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Speaker 3: what someone has always already done because they can replicate that.

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Speaker 3: What we're hoping on with a lot of these guys,

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Speaker 3: and it's not just pertained to the quarterback. We're hoping

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Speaker 3: that there's still some left and that we get that.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is it's never guaranteed, and so sometimes

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Speaker 3: when you go too hard on the potential it's unrealized,

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Speaker 3: you're sitting your step up for failure. And so to me,

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Speaker 3: it's a lot easier to look at what someone has

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Speaker 3: done in their past and say that what they've done

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Speaker 3: in the past, they're more likely to replicate it than oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm must say that this guy can do it because

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Speaker 3: they have the talent, but they've never demonstrated well.

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Speaker 2: Again, you look at a Patrick Mahomes, he wasn't in

775
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Speaker 2: all American, Josh Allen, not all Americans. They saw potential

776
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Speaker 2: down the road and its floors for the Chiefs and

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Speaker 2: the Bills, respectively. All right, coming up on the other side,

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Speaker 2: our first division we're gonna focus in on is the

779
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Speaker 2: AFC West. Which direction will they go in the NFL Draft?

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Is there a mercy rule in the NBA playoffs? Can

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Speaker 2: we call off this Celtics beat down to the Hawks? Now?

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Speaker 2: Seventy four forty four? Ugley? It's a layup drill? I mean, yikes.

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Speaker 2: one mister Bucky Brooks on this show is the upcoming

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, which is twelve days away. So, Bucky, pull

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Speaker 2: back the curtain. You've worked for organizations when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the big day of the NFL Draft. What's going

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Speaker 2: on right now? With less than two weeks to go?

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Speaker 2: Are you just on the phone with every team out

801
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Speaker 2: there trying to get deals done? Are you going over

802
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: the board over and over again? Every team has their

803
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: own board at the upcoming draft. What's actually happening as

804
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Speaker 2: we are less than two weeks away from the big

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Speaker 2: start of this NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: Well, this week coming up is a big week. It's

807
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Speaker 3: a big week because all the medicals and the background

808
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: stuff is all done, meaning the NFL security reports are

809
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: brought back. Everyone is sitting in there and so you

810
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: get all all the dirt on everybody. You know exactly

811
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Speaker 3: who's who and what's what, and so you can really

812
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: cement the board. And so this year last what we

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Speaker 3: call what the final arguments. Right if this was court,

814
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: it's your opportunity to kind of argue for your players,

815
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Speaker 3: stand on the table for your players, to make sure

816
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Speaker 3: that your versus heard. When it comes to some of

817
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Speaker 3: the players that you like some of the guys that

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Speaker 3: you think will ultimately be players and key contributors on

819
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Speaker 3: your team. And then simultaneously you're also going through scenarios, Well,

820
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Speaker 3: if the Panthers take Bryce Young here and then the

821
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Speaker 3: Texans don't take a quarterback, what do we think that

822
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Speaker 3: looks like? How would that impact us? Do we need

823
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Speaker 3: to get up and range to get the player that

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Speaker 3: we've designated as I guess so you're throwing through a

825
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Speaker 3: bunch of different exercises to try and get yourself ready

826
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Speaker 3: for what could happen on Thursday night, because you want

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Speaker 3: to be prepared. You want to be able to have

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Speaker 3: a calm mind, You want to have like rational thoughts

829
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Speaker 3: in terms of everything that we've talked about, we've already

830
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Speaker 3: gone through it. So now we feel confident about the

831
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Speaker 3: move that we're making on draft night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you see when you see teams move

833
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Speaker 2: up in the draft, let's say like the Packers did

834
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Speaker 2: with Jordan love right, you're like, well, why would they

835
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Speaker 2: do that? Well, One, they've really liked him and they

836
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Speaker 2: wanted him, uh, and they were fearful that if they waited,

837
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Speaker 2: he'd be gone. And so as you said, unless you

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Speaker 2: were sitting there with the number one overall pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft. That's the only secure spot in the draft.

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Speaker 2: That's the only one you don't have to worry about

841
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: anybody else. You have a choice of every single player

842
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: in the country. But from that point on, not only

843
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: do you have to get your own board ready, you

844
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Speaker 2: have to start the guessing game of what everyone else

845
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Speaker 2: is doing. And and and by the way, when we

846
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: we because so much noise comes out. You know, there

847
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: are seeds planted in the media to release stories by

848
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Speaker 2: certain organizations. That's right, media people. There are house guys

849
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Speaker 2: out there. You know who you are, uh, and they

850
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: and it's a trade off. I know this because I

851
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Speaker 2: worked with the media as a PR guy in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It's a trade off, right, you will it will give

853
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: you something and you give us something. And it works

854
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Speaker 2: with every single NFL team. So stories are floated out there, Hey,

855
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 2: they really like this guy or this guy, and then

856
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: you have to figure out, all right, what is the

857
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Speaker 2: truth and what is just noise? How do you go

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Or like we're trying to do, is you're trying

860
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Speaker 3: to connect the dies. You're trying to look for common

861
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Speaker 3: denominators when it comes to all of this information, and

862
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: right now it's a lion season. Everyone is lying. No

863
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Speaker 3: one knows anything. Really, some of the stuff that people

864
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: deliberately put out there is nonsense to get you off

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Speaker 3: to the scent. And so what you have to do

866
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: is you have to go back and look at where

867
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: your board was beginning of January. Now look at where

868
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: it is now. Why has there been so much movement?

869
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: If any, can we justify the movement that is taking place?

870
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: If not, we need to make sure we get the

871
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: board back to looking close to like January, because you

872
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: want to make sure that you're evaluating guys off of

873
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: how they played, not how they worked out and how

874
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 3: they did all the other song and dance stuff leading

875
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 3: up to the draft.

876
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: All right, let's go. I'm gonna get into a few

877
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: of the divisions today. As also later on, Adam Kaplan

878
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: will be joining us the AFC West. Think about a

879
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: year ago at this time, so the Chiefs were obviously

880
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: the team to beat in the AFC West, and of

881
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: course it turned out to be a Super Bowl winning

882
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: season for them. The Chargers really, to me went idle.

883
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: They did sneak into the playoffs, they didn't beat any

884
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: winning teams all season long, and then they were on

885
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: the losing end of one of the most catastrophic collapses

886
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: in playoff history. The Raiders took a mighty step backwards

887
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: from playoff team to also ran and then jettison their quarterback.

888
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: And then the Broncos. Everybody was loving the Broncos after

889
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: the big deal to acquire Russell Wilson, and they were

890
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: an absolute catastrophe. I want to start with the Denver

891
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: Broncos in this draft because they don't have a first

892
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: round pick, they don't have a second round pick. They

893
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: gave those two picks up to get Russell Wilson. So

894
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: with two thirds of four, a fifth, and a six,

895
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: they have very limited only five picks in this draft.

896
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: What do you think the Broncos do it? Do you

897
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: a couple those two threes to try me to move up?

898
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: What exactly can a team do in a draft whether

899
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: they don't have a first or second round pick.

900
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you want to be patient. I

901
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: think you want to wait and see what is available

902
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: to you. You may not be able to get up there.

903
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: You can always trade future compensation, and so, for instance,

904
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: if you want to move into the second round. You

905
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: may have a give up next year's first round in

906
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: those things. So they're ways for you to play it

907
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: forward to kind of split off some of the picks

908
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: that you have to kind of move up in rounds.

909
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 3: But a lot of it really depends on how good

910
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: do you feel about where your roster is now based

911
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: on the moves that you made with free agency. What

912
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: are the pressing needs on the team, and do the

913
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: needs line up with supplying demand in terms of what

914
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: prospects are the strong prospects in this class. And so

915
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: you hope that it matches, but if it doesn't, you

916
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: don't do anything crazy. You know that you always have

917
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: the opportunity after the draft to continue to add veterans.

918
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: Veteran free agents you can add, you can continue to

919
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: develop the team on the practice field and just king

920
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: to see where you are as you get into the season.

921
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because we hear this a

922
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: lot about best player available. In other words, you get

923
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: to your pick, you look at your board, regardless of position,

924
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: we're going to take this guy versus filling a position need.

925
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: Does that balance out or is one more prevalent than

926
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: the other.

927
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: It should balance out? And if more people followed or

928
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: stuck to that premise taking the best player available, the

929
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: teams would be better because you can never go wrong

930
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: accumulating good football players. Where you mess up is when

931
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: you reach for someone who's not worthy of being taken

932
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: in the round that you draft him in. Because when

933
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: you draft a guy early, there comes a level of

934
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 3: expectations that they're going to be something impactful, they're going

935
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: to do it, and so if you pour the trigger

936
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 3: too soon, now you're left disappointed because you're drafting someone

937
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: and asking them to do something that they're certainly not

938
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: capable of being able to do.

939
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: All Right, the Las Vegas Raiders very disappointing season. They

940
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: will have a new quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo will take over

941
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: as the QB of the Raiders. Now, Unlike the Broncos,

942
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 2: who only have five picks in this draft, the Raiders

943
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: have get this twelve. They have a first, a second,

944
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: two thirds, a fourth, three fists, two sixth and two sevens.

945
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: When you have seven picks in the last three rounds,

946
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: what's the idea of picking up all those picks? What

947
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: can you do when you have three fifts, two six

948
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: and two sevens.

949
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: You can move those up. You can move, you can

950
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: swap those out to move up in rounds. You also

951
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: can do like Jimmy Johnson would say, Hey, you want

952
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: a bunch of as many draft picks as you have,

953
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 3: because they're all like corner flips. No one knows exactly

954
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: what a player is going to be in the National

955
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: Football League, so you better serve to just bring in

956
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: as many as you can throw them out there and

957
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: see which one stick.

958
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: All right, So the Raiders have the seventh overall pick

959
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: in this draft. I look at their latest mock draft.

960
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: You have them going defense. Where do you stand with

961
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: the Raiders and that number seven pick?

962
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still think defense is to move, that's to play,

963
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: because this is a team that has been terrible on

964
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: defense the last couple of years. You have Chandler Jones

965
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: and Max Crosby, but you need someone on the interior

966
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: that can make it happen, that can disrupt and really

967
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: dominate at the point of attack. And so they're certainly

968
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: having their eyes on a couple of interior defensive linemen

969
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: that can help them right now. They can always go

970
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: back to the secondary. Can't get enough corners that can play,

971
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: enough slot defenders that can play even safety help. So

972
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: somewhere either in the front line or someone in the

973
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: back end. That's what the Raiders have to make a move.

974
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. With the Raiders, so their

975
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: second round picks number thirty eight, I don't know if

976
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: this guy's name would be there, but if Henn and

977
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: Hooker falls down to that level, would he be a

978
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: good pick for the Raiders.

979
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely, he'll be a perfect pick. He has the IQ,

980
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: the arm, talent to play the game the way that

981
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: Josh mcgames wants to play it from the pocket. He

982
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: also is an experienced player, having been a fifth year

983
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 3: player at Tennessee, three years of Virginia Tech, two years

984
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 3: of Tennessee, very productive player, and so he checks off

985
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: a lot of boxes in terms of what Josh McDaniels

986
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: and that staff typically looks for in a quarterback. Now

987
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: is how long will it be until he's ready to

988
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: fully return to action? And if he's ready to return

989
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: to action, is that means he's playing AGA in twenty

990
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: twenty three or we better serve to wait to twenty

991
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: twenty four. Regardless, he's a talented prospect wanted. The Rates

992
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: certainly have to keep an eye on.

993
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: I love this music, Sam, I love this music. By

994
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: the way, Sam just ate an entire pizza by himself. Unbelievable. Yeah,

995
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: hungry today. Just because it's free, Sam, doesn't mean you

996
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: have to eat the whole thing. I've stopped myself, all right,

997
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: I finally stop eating. All right, we assuming me. We're

998
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: halfway home. On the other side, we are covering the

999
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 2: AFC West right now. Bucky Brooks. He is doing more

1000
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: research than anybody. He is the expert. The chargers are

1001
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: on the clock. Chargers on the clock. Which way did

1002
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: the LA chargers go? Keep it right here? This is

1003
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. Oh yeah, Now, what was interesting about

1004
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: that scream that I laid out? And by the way,

1005
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: I was way off Mike. Consistency, Sam, I saw the

1006
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: the meter there. It was very consistent through out. And yes,

1007
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: I am available if you need a screamer. And all

1008
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: I'm asking for is, you know, floor seats for whatever

1009
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: NBA playoff game he got going on.

1010
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: That was very good, Steve.

1011
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: And I will rattle any if I did that even

1012
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: once though, I mean I'd be throwing out of the building.

1013
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 2: So it's your right, Yeah, so she can get away

1014
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: with it. I would not welcome back. This is Fox

1015
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are alive from the tire Rack Studios.

1016
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: We are getting ready for the NFL Draft, which of

1017
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: course is now twelve days away, and we have started

1018
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: with the AFC West. We've already put the Broncos with

1019
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: their limited draft to bed. Raiders have some very interesting picks,

1020
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: twelve picks in all. We move on to the Los

1021
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers. Tom toe LESCo does not trade draft picks.

1022
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 2: In fact, if you look at the Chargers' recent draft,

1023
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: they basically have their own picks every single year. This

1024
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: is my favorite this year though. So when they made

1025
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: the deal with the Bears to get Khalil Mack, they

1026
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: traded a second round pick and then a future sixth

1027
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: round pick. Well, guess what that pick that they traded

1028
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: to the Bears. They acquired it back for a couple

1029
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: of sevens. So the Chargers have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Well,

1030
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: what do you make of that? Tom Telesco theory that,

1031
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: you know what, we don't have to get tricky and

1032
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: ad pick so subtrap picks. What is set where we

1033
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: are and make our picks as they are. What do

1034
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: you think of that philosophy?

1035
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, there's so many different ways you

1036
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: can go about the draft and different ways that you

1037
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: can think about kind of building this thing out. I

1038
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: think the main thing harmon REGARDSS to like philosophy and

1039
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: those things. The number one thing that you got to

1040
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: do is make sure you used to lect good players

1041
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: like and when I mean good players, I'm not trying

1042
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 3: to openlist simplify what it is, but I mean good

1043
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: players that have done it over time, that you've seen

1044
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: do it against big time competition, that have the prototypical

1045
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: dimensions that you look for, that have traditionally played over time.

1046
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: To me, that's what it's about. All the fancy stuff

1047
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: and all the other stuff, it really comes down to

1048
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: taking good players that played in big programs that understand

1049
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: what the mission is and so look. I like some

1050
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: of the alternate means of being able to build a team,

1051
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: But to me, man, it's very simple. It's like Warren

1052
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 3: Buffett when it comes to investing brand names products that

1053
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: you know about that there's an easy comfortability in knowing

1054
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: what you're getting. That's how I would approach to Jeffess.

1055
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: I would always go about Tom Tilasco can thank his

1056
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: friendship with John Spanners, who is the president of football Operations. Yeah, spanos.

1057
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: He is the son of the owner. He runs overseas

1058
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: the football side of the franchise. Because when you think

1059
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: about it, ten years on the job, you're on the

1060
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: third head coach that you've selected, You've won zero division titles,

1061
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: you've been in the playoffs three times, and your record

1062
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: is two and three in the postseason. Most general managers

1063
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: would not survive ten years with that resume, but Tom

1064
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: Telesco has Now if you look at Mike McCoy a's

1065
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: first hire, two winning seasons follow by two losing seasons,

1066
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: Anthony Lynn two winning seasons followed by two losing seasons,

1067
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: and now Ran and Stalely two winning seasons. How much

1068
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: can the Chargers do in this draft to revent the

1069
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: idea of history repeating itself and this team going off

1070
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: the cliff in twenty twenty three.

1071
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: Well, to be a champion, you have to get your

1072
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 3: heart broken a little bit, and that loss to the

1073
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 3: Jaguars in the postseason was certainly devastating, but there's some

1074
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: lessons to come out of it, learning how to finish

1075
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: it up, meaning they have to learn how to win

1076
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: these playoff games in terms of style of play, running

1077
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: the football, running it out, managing the game, understanding how

1078
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 3: the little things matter, whether it's drop passes, a penalty,

1079
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 3: is a blown assignments, Those things matter and they're magnified

1080
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: in the postseason. You don't get comfortable winning in the

1081
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 3: postseason until you start winning in the postseason. And so

1082
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: you got to reach the tournament. You have to play

1083
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 3: in a tournament. You have to get comfortable with the

1084
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 3: one and done nature of the tournament before you can

1085
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 3: go win it.

1086
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: So defense was a focus this pass offseason as they

1087
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: signed a lot of free agents. Defensively, I didn't see

1088
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: a whole lot of improvement in that defense. So the

1089
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,479
Speaker 2: Chargers have the twenty first overall pick. Let's talk about

1090
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler for a second here, who's obviously been one

1091
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: of the most productive running backs, was a tremendous fine

1092
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: as an undrafted rookie and as far exceeded any expectations

1093
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 2: during his career with the Charges. But it doesn't seem

1094
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: like they're ready to give him any kind of long

1095
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: term deal. Could this be a running back? I mean,

1096
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: everyone keeps talking about Jon Robinson. Is it possible that

1097
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: he would not be available at twenty one. Is he

1098
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that could target I remember years

1099
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: ago Tom te LESCo I say he doesn't make moves

1100
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: in the draft. He did to get Melvin Gordon back

1101
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: on the day he moved up in that draft to

1102
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: get Melvin Gordon. Do you think that could be looking

1103
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: at Bejon Robinson and maybe thinking of a deal to

1104
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: try to move up to get him.

1105
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, first that we addressed the Austin Eckler situation. Austin Eckler,

1106
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 3: I think he's entering year seven. You don't understand big

1107
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 3: time contracts, long term contracts, the guys that are entering

1108
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: this seventh year. He's gotten two contracts. He had his

1109
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: rookie deal and he signed the big contract after that.

1110
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: For the most part, when you're looking at the running

1111
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: back position, that's the max. Maybe they get to but

1112
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: anything beyond that, you're not going to get a return

1113
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 3: on the investment, regardless of how he plays in his

1114
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: skill set in those things. That brings us to this point,

1115
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: which is now twenty one. If a talent is running

1116
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: back like b Jhon Robinson, is there man? You handing

1117
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: the card? You move on because he is in every

1118
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: down back, running game, passing game, can do it, especially

1119
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: with the ball in his hands. I've likened him to

1120
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: like a little bigger version of Ladanion Thomason when he

1121
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: was doing his thing down with the Chargers down in

1122
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: San Diego. And so if you have an opportunity to

1123
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: get a bigger, faster, stronger version at running back, you

1124
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: do that. But in a perfect world you would have

1125
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: b Jhon Robinson and Austin Eckley. You don't necessarily want

1126
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: to swap it out one for one.

1127
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember, last time we see in that running

1128
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: back at this kind of commotion early in the draft

1129
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: was Todd Gurley, and that was coming off a big injury.

1130
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: RAMS took him tenth overall. And let's put it this way,

1131
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: they don't get to that first Super Bowl under Sean

1132
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: McVay without Todd Gurley, who for at least a couple

1133
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: of years was the dominant back in the NFL all

1134
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: around back. So let's let's talk about v Jon Robinson

1135
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: because we're hearing a lot about.

1136
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: Him right now.

1137
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 2: Where is he? Is he a potential top ten pick,

1138
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: top fifteen pick? How far will he drop? Where do

1139
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: you project him? Number wise going in this draft.

1140
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: It's so tough man because he can go as high

1141
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: as ten to the Philadelphia Eagles. But Howie Roseman typically

1142
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: stays away from running backs like that. He go to

1143
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: the Newton Patriots at fourteen because they haven't they could

1144
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 3: use like that old school workhorse back like they had

1145
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: in Corey Dillon, like they had in Curtis Martin. Like

1146
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: that's kind of the formulatve recipe for them to have

1147
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: their greatest success when they can run the ball and

1148
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: run it with a big time or runner and then

1149
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's gonna be a bunch of other

1150
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: guys that But to me, I think it just has

1151
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: to be really simple, paying it. You want a big

1152
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: run to make sure that you can control the game

1153
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 3: like you want it.

1154
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to spend a whole lot of

1155
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: time on the Chiefs. You have the last pick in

1156
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: the first round. By the way, only thirty one picks

1157
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: of the Dolphins had a forfeit their first round pick.

1158
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: So when you're the Chiefs, you won two Super Bowls

1159
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: and for you've been to three Super Bowls. I mean,

1160
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: this team obviously has proven they have the best quarterback

1161
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: in this league. And yes, he is the best quarterback

1162
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: in the league. He's proven it, no question about that.

1163
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: How do you handle that if you're the Chiefs? I

1164
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: mean again, best player available. Do they have any pressing

1165
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: needs going into this twenty twenty three draft. I think

1166
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: we just lost Bucky all right. I heard a click,

1167
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: which is never a good sign. We will reconnect with

1168
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks there, but Bucky's on the road, so we'll

1169
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: get a little more with Bucky. But as far as

1170
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are concerned, they have the thirty first overall pick.

1171
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: We'll look at some of their draft choices this year.

1172
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are first, second, third, two, fourth, a fifth,

1173
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: couple six, couple sevens, so they have a lot of

1174
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: extra picks in this draft. And we'll hear from Bucky

1175
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: coming up on the other side of what he has

1176
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: to say about that. All right, let's get a little

1177
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,320
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1182
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: out what is a trending right now as we will

1183
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: reconnect with Bucky and Oh Bucky, I know you're on

1184
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: the edge of your seat with this Celtics X game.

1185
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: Although I'm looking at the score, Hawks are making a run.

1186
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 5: They are They're trying. They were down by thirty at halftime.

1187
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 5: Now they're only down by nineteen.

1188
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 4: They did outscore the Celtics in the third quarter thirty

1189
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 4: one to twenty. Now, Jason Tatum hasn't played as much

1190
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 4: in the second half. He did have twenty one points

1191
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 4: already seven rebounds.

1192
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 5: Trey Young is not shooting great from the field. He

1193
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 5: is five of seventeen. Yeah, that's no boin On. He's

1194
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 5: got sixteen points and seven assists.

1195
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: But it really has been all Boston this entire game.

1196
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 4: The seventy sixers made it interesting for a little bit.

1197
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 4: Well it was the Nets who made it interesting, and

1198
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 4: the seventy six ers were like, forget it, we need

1199
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 4: to beat these guys, and they did by twenty points.

1200
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: One Twenty one to one oh one was the final score,

1201
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 4: hitting twenty one to three pointers.

1202
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: James Harden had seven of those three pointers for a

1203
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 5: total of twenty three points at thirteen.

1204
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 4: Assists, a little double double in Major League Baseball.

1205
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 5: The Giants and the Tigers.

1206
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 4: Went to eleven innings and guests who still got it Miggy.

1207
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 7: Everybody on their feet, and here at co America Park,

1208
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 7: Cabre waiting on a two to two on the way

1209
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 7: swinging to ground ball up the middle and the centerfield

1210
01:01:52,920 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 7: bass hip. Tigers whim Torcosin, crosses home and hug horse

1211
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 7: out to first base to mom.

1212
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: Miguel Cabrera. How about it?

1213
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 5: Tigers Radio Network on the call. The thirty nine year

1214
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 5: old walks it off with.

1215
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 4: The single, and the Tigers, who were down by five runs,

1216
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 4: came out on top seven to six. The Yankees did

1217
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 4: take down the Twin six to one. The Pirates and

1218
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 4: the Cardinals went to also ten innings.

1219
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 5: And it was the Pirates who came out on top

1220
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 5: six to three.

1221
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 4: In Saint Louis, the Oriels and the White Sox are

1222
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 4: right now on the bottom of the tenth inning, tied

1223
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: at six apiece. Blue Jay's still on top of the

1224
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: Raids five to two. Bottom of the eighth. The Brewers

1225
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 4: and the Padres tied bottom of the fourth three apiece,

1226
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 4: and the Angels have just lost the lead. The Red

1227
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 4: Sox are now on top five to four, bottom of

1228
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: the fourth inning. But Mike Trout did record his three

1229
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: hundredth career double double in this game.

1230
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 5: And the A's are beating the Mets two to one,

1231
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 5: top of the six.

1232
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: Diamondbacks up on the Marlins one zero bottom of the fifth,

1233
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 4: and the Reds have extended their lead over the Phillies

1234
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 4: five zero. They're about to start the fifth inning.

1235
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 5: Whoo, that's to.

1236
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: You, all right, Manzie, thank you very much.

1237
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: Better.

1238
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: You mentioned Miguel Cabrera. This is this is what happens, Bucky,

1239
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: when you sign a superstar first ballot Hall of Famer

1240
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: like Miguel Cabrera to a long term deal. Uh. He

1241
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: is still making thirty two million dollars this year, and

1242
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: the last time that he was really an elite player

1243
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: was twenty sixteen, when he was you know, liking I mean,

1244
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: you know, from from the beginning when he first showed

1245
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: up with the Marlins all the way through twenty sixteen,

1246
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: he got MVP votes every single year. I mean, that's

1247
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: that's remarkable when you think about it. Fourteen consecutive years

1248
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: he showed up on some MVP ballots. But last couple

1249
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: of years two fifty six, two fifty wore. He only

1250
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: had five home runs last year in one hundred and

1251
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 2: twelve games. He's hitting two oh seven. But you're paying

1252
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: him thirty two million dollars. So it's like he got

1253
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: a play and people say, why does any retire? I'm

1254
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: like getting all to him prety two million dollars. By

1255
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: the way, he has made he has made to date

1256
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: just in salary, four hundred million dollars.

1257
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: It's a lot of money.

1258
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: Four hundred million dollars. Should be able to live off that,

1259
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: all right. Just wrapping up with the Chiefs. By the way,

1260
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: apparently Andy Reid was so nervous to hear what you

1261
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: had to say about the Chiefs draft. Uh, he pulled

1262
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: the plug on him. So I didn't think the Chiefs

1263
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: are all that controversial. But again, you know, when you're

1264
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: sitting there, you've won the Super Bowl, you have the

1265
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: last pick in the first round. They got some picks

1266
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: on the back end, some multiple picks. Maybe they can

1267
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: move some of the picks around, but dude, the Chiefs

1268
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: have any specific needs right now that they need to

1269
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: address in this draft.

1270
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they can always fortify their front line they're

1271
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 3: losing Frank Clark, so they need to know the pass rusher.

1272
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 3: Even though they took George Carloftis a year ago. You

1273
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 3: can never have enough pass rush, you know. To be

1274
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: honest when it comes to the kans City Chiefs, the

1275
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: chan City Chiefs arrives at the Super Bowl a year

1276
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 3: or two. Early last year, they got rid of Tybreek,

1277
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 3: hile they played with a bunch of I mean, I

1278
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: guess like misfits and cast offs. You think about mvs.

1279
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: Marquez Valdez, Scanlon coming over, Juju Smith Schuster on defense.

1280
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: They played with a bunch of newbies and the secondary

1281
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: and they won the Super Bowl. Well, now when you

1282
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: play with all those young players, they grow up. They're

1283
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 3: even bigger and better. They should be a better version

1284
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 3: of the Chiefs this year than last year. So now

1285
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 3: we talked about drafting best player available. The kans City

1286
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 3: Chiefs literally have the luxury of being able to do that.

1287
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 3: They would like to get an edge rusher or two,

1288
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: but there's not a lot of pressure on them to

1289
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: go and field needs. They can just take good players

1290
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: and kind of figure out a where they fit once

1291
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: they get them all in the building.

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01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: All right, I want to make a quick pivot right

1293
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: now to the NFC West, another division that a year

1294
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: ago there was a lot of buzz and nothing really

1295
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: went as planned. And in the NFC West, no one

1296
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: could have predicted the Seahawks season. Most people, including years

1297
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: truly thought that they would be battling for worst team

1298
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: in the league. Meanwhile, the defending Super Bowl champions go

1299
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: off the cliff, So the question is can they rebound

1300
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 2: from that? The Arizona Cardinals obviously another team that had

1301
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: a very disappointing season. I want to start with those

1302
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals because you have a new coach and Jonathan Gannon.

1303
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: I don't know much about this guy other than the

1304
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: fact that he comes over from the Eagles and had

1305
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: a pretty good run there all the way to the

1306
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. But they get rid of Cliff Kingsbury, who

1307
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: was an offensive minded guy. You bring in a defensive

1308
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: guy to be a new head coach. Is that a

1309
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 2: precursor looking for Arizona? By the way, they have a first,

1310
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: a second, a couple of thirds in this draft. Is

1311
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: there going to be a different focus on this team

1312
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: as it's all been about Kyler Murray, Cliff Kingsbury. Now

1313
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: you got Gannon coming in as a defensive guy. Are

1314
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: we going to see a different personality for this Arizona

1315
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: Cardinals team moving forward?

1316
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: Maybe? I mean, I think you can. I mean, obviously

1317
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna change. Because Cliff Kingsbury was the coach there,

1318
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 3: he was a little more laid back. Jonathan Gannon has

1319
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 3: some energy to him, some bite to him. You have

1320
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: a new general manager, monte asen Fort, who probably wants

1321
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 3: to bring in a different kind of player in terms

1322
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: of character wise, personality wise, and so yeah, you'll see

1323
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 3: a difference. I don't know how much better they will be.

1324
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it depends on how they

1325
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 3: build the offense around Kyler Murray when cal Ler Murray

1326
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: is healthy and available to return, and so a lot

1327
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: of it hinges on that. But this is a team

1328
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 3: that was in desperate need of a reset. They don't

1329
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 3: have to kind of hit the button, blow it up

1330
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: for a little bit and see if they can build

1331
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: it back up. And I wouldn't expect them to be

1332
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 3: a team that's vying for a playoff berth, but maybe,

1333
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: just maybe they kind of find a way to figure

1334
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 3: it out. On the Jonathan Gannon. It'd be interesting because

1335
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon is a young head coach his first job.

1336
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: How does he handle that leadership situation when it comes

1337
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 3: to leading the entire team as opposed to just a

1338
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 3: defense There will be some growing pains. How quickly he

1339
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,480
Speaker 3: adapts and adjusts to the new role of new responsibilities

1340
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 3: could ultimately determine how will they do this year?

1341
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 2: All right? We know their phone has been ringing off

1342
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: the hook with that number three overall pick. And again

1343
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: with Gannon being a defensive guy. I don't know how

1344
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:32,879
Speaker 2: he feels about will Anderson Junior, but most defensive coaches

1345
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: would kill they have the opportunity to have this kind

1346
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 2: of young talent on your team. What do you think

1347
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: is going on with the Cardinals right now with that

1348
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: third overall pick. Are they seriously considering offers out there?

1349
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: What would it take for them to give up the

1350
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: third overall pick or should they hang on to it

1351
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: and go defense with that third overall pick?

1352
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they have to kind of make

1353
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 3: that decision depending upon what happens in front of them

1354
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: at too. A lot of it just on the Houston

1355
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: Texas and what decision they make, whether they take Bryce

1356
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 3: Young to CJ. Strou respectfully, if they take if they

1357
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 3: bypass the quarterback completely and take a defender, well, now look,

1358
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: the spot is open for business because you may have

1359
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 3: people clamoring to get up top because one of the

1360
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: top two quarterbacks that no one expected to be at

1361
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 3: three could be available at three. It's just one of

1362
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 3: those situations where you're mantiasin Ford. You want to kind

1363
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 3: of have a plan in place that deals with all

1364
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: of the scenarios, and then you let the scenarios unfold

1365
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 3: in front of you. Then you make the best decision

1366
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: for the franchise.

1367
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: After that, last year, Pete Carroll finished ninth in the

1368
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: voting for NFL Coach of the Year. Ninth, Are you

1369
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 2: kidding me? The Seattle Seahawks were a team that seemed

1370
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: destined to target this twenty twenty three draft to get

1371
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: one of the first couple of picks in order to

1372
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 2: get a quarterback for the future. And then Gino Smith

1373
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: showed up and had a Pro Bowl season and suddenly

1374
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 2: the focus is a little different. So Seattle gets into

1375
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: the postseason and you talk about a team rich with picks.

1376
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: Seattle has two ones, two twos, They have four picks

1377
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 2: in the first fifty two, starting with that fifth overall

1378
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: pick at number twenty as well. So you're the Seahawks,

1379
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 2: you have a surprise season one. Are you secure with

1380
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: Gino Smith, because when you talking about the fifth overall

1381
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: pick in the draft, there will be quarterbacks on the

1382
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,839
Speaker 2: board that potentially could be the quarterback of the future.

1383
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: Or do you like, No, we're good. We're good with

1384
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 2: Gino for the near future. We can go in a

1385
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: different direction. How do you think the Seahawks are going

1386
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: to handle the riches they have available to them potentially

1387
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: in this draft?

1388
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're going to handle it, Marvesly. This

1389
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 3: is one of the situations that you live for if

1390
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 3: you're a gentle manager team builder. Your team is good

1391
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 3: enough to get into the postseason, but then you have

1392
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: enough capital to significantly improve upon what they were able

1393
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 3: to do last year. You have the fifth overall pick,

1394
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 3: so you can go and get a beefy defender, one

1395
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 3: that can be disruptive at the point of attack, particularly

1396
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 3: if Jalen Carter is not going to be one of

1397
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: the top four picks. The Seattle Seahawks need a pounce

1398
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: on Jalen Carter and then you have an opportunity at

1399
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 3: twenty to go back and maybe get a wide receiver

1400
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: or another playmaker to kind of flesh out and fill

1401
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 3: out that lineup card around Geno Smith. You get those

1402
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: kinds of weapons, the offense will continue to flourish, and

1403
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 3: then after that it's just about taking the best player

1404
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: available at each of those spots. This is a team

1405
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 3: that is traditionally drafted well when everything was locked in

1406
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 3: and the solid meaning they knew exactly what system they

1407
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: were fitting the players into and they had a clear

1408
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: understanding of what kind of characters were coming into the room.

1409
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: They get back to that, Yeah, this Seattle Seahawks team

1410
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 3: could be tough, it could be dangerous. They're one of

1411
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: the teams that could come on the NFC next year.

1412
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: So Jalen Carter is sitting there at number five, Is

1413
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 2: that a good pick for Seattle.

1414
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 3: It's a no brainer, no brainer. You take him. You

1415
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 3: put them in a middle the defense. He's tucked away.

1416
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 3: He's an opposite part of the country from Georgia. Yet

1417
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: this is not an issue at all. Take him.

1418
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: And I saw in your latest mock draft the potential

1419
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: of Anthony Richardson falling to number twenty. If he's on

1420
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: the board and you're the Seahawks, do you take him?

1421
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: I think you have to have a serious discussion about that.

1422
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: The reason why is because you have a quarterback already

1423
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 3: and Gino Smith. There's no pressure in putting Anthony Richison

1424
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 3: on the field. And so if Anthony Richison comes in,

1425
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: he works hard, maybe in twenty twenty four or twenty

1426
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 3: twenty five, he's ready to be your guy.

1427
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: And by the way, if you think about it, wouldn't

1428
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: Gino be the perfect mentor for a young guy like that,

1429
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: who obviously has things to work on, starting with accuracy.

1430
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: Gino one of the most accurate passes the back, was

1431
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: the most accurate passer in the NFL. But Gino's another

1432
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: guy that could sort of sit with a young quarterbacks saying,

1433
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: take your time, take your time, don't feel any urgency

1434
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: to have to have an idiot impact. Look at me.

1435
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: You know he waited all these years to finally get

1436
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: the right opportunity in the right system, right team. Look

1437
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: where Gino Smith is today. We're halfway home on the

1438
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: NFC West on the other side of the ramps. Are

1439
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: they a draft away from rebounding from their disastrous twenty

1440
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: twenty two season, and which way will the forty nine

1441
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: ers go? Are they set at quarterback? We got it

1442
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 2: all for you. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin

1443
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: and Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday, and we

1444
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 2: are here in the Tyrek dot com studios. We're doing

1445
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: some NFL Draft talk as well. We should. We're less

1446
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 2: than two weeks away, so we got a lot of

1447
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: ground to cover. We went AFC West a little bit

1448
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: earlier with Bucky. Now we've been focusing on the NFC West.

1449
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: We put to bed the Arizona Cardinals and Seattle Seahawks.

1450
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: Now it's time to turn our attention to a team

1451
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: that won the Super Bowl just two seasons ago. And

1452
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 2: I don't know by you, Bucky, it seems like ten

1453
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 2: years ago. The Rams don't have a first round pick.

1454
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: They have a second, two thirds, three fives, three six's,

1455
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: two sevens, so they have a lot of picks on

1456
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: the back side. But let's just get back to the

1457
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 2: idea because a lot of people I've talked to, I

1458
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 2: don't know if you agree with this saying forget about

1459
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: last year complete aberration. The Rams will be right back

1460
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: in the mix. In twenty twenty three. Do you believe that?

1461
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: No, I don't believe that. I don't believe they're gonna

1462
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: be right back in the mix. They're losing good players,

1463
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 3: they're purging the roster, so it's not gonna be a

1464
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: better team than it was last year. We still don't

1465
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: know what version of Matthew Stafford we're going to see

1466
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: when he comes back, so na this won't be a

1467
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 3: better thing. I give Sean mvay credit for hanging in there.

1468
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 3: I thought he was gone. I thought he's going to

1469
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 3: kind of walk away from the burning building. But we'll see.

1470
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of work to do to

1471
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 3: get this team up and going, and we'll see if

1472
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 3: they had the wherewithal to make it happen all right.

1473
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: Offense line obviously a big question mark for the Rams

1474
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: right now. Again, you have no first, you have a second,

1475
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: two thirds, no fourth, so you only have three picks

1476
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: in the first one hundred and sixty six picks. What

1477
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: kind of damage can you do? Can can you get

1478
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: anything done through the draft or are they going to

1479
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 2: have to go elsewhere to try to fill some of

1480
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 2: the gaping holes that this team obviously has right now?

1481
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so tough because there's so many holes

1482
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 3: for this team to feel is a team that has

1483
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 3: become very pedestrian on offense. A lot of that is

1484
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: due to the offensive line. Some of that is also

1485
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: due to the rest of the league kind of catching

1486
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 3: up on the version of the Rams offense. With Matthew

1487
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 3: Stafford a quarterback, it's very different than the version that

1488
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 3: we saw previously when they had Jerry Goffit quarterback. And

1489
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 3: so can they figure out a way to kind of

1490
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 3: get it right. I think you have to add the

1491
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 3: offensive line, fix that part of it. You need still

1492
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 3: need some weapons on the perimeter to supper Cooper Cup

1493
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 3: and then defensively you got to upgrade the secondary. You

1494
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 3: lost Taylor Rap, you lost Jalen Ramsey. You need to

1495
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 3: continue to find a way to be able to cover people.

1496
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of work to do and

1497
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 3: we'll see if they can get it done.

1498
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers are another team that have a very

1499
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 2: very bizarre draft. They have no one, they have no.

1500
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 4: Two.

1501
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: They have three back end third round picks, though those

1502
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: bonus picks they picked up three of those. They have

1503
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: three fists and they have four to sevenths, so they're

1504
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: going to be sitting around. What happens when you don't

1505
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 2: have a first or second round pick. We've had a

1506
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: couple of teams already like this. You got those three

1507
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: picks at the end of the third round, the compensatory picks.

1508
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: What do you do with the picks like that?

1509
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you still have a lot of flexibility.

1510
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 3: They have a ton of third round picks. Now. Some

1511
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 3: of that, ironically, is because they've done such a good

1512
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 3: job of having guys hired away from their program, and

1513
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 3: so they've been able to get bonus picks for the

1514
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 3: diversity hires in those things. What you would like to

1515
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: do is take some of those third round picks. If

1516
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 3: there's a player or two that you identify early on

1517
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 3: Day two, in the second round, or maybe the top

1518
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 3: of the third, you package some of those to be

1519
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 3: able to move up in the round to get a

1520
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: player that you want. But really you want to observe

1521
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 3: and just kind of let it fall to you. And

1522
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 3: this isn't a bad draft for the nine is to

1523
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 3: have the kind of currency that they have when it

1524
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 3: comes to the draft. They're only about fifteen to eighteen

1525
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: first round picks. That'll be on everybody's board. The rest

1526
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 3: of the guys are good players. I wouldn't necessarily say

1527
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 3: that they are great prospects that are worthy of being

1528
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 3: considered blue chippers or stars. And so what you want

1529
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,839
Speaker 3: to do is you want to make sure you identify

1530
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: the guys that are fits for your team. And those

1531
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 3: guys may be different viewed differently by other teams. And

1532
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: if they fall in range and you really want them

1533
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 3: to gotta have it guys, then you can trade off

1534
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 3: some of those third round picks to get in a

1535
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 3: situation and get one of you gotta have it players.

1536
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: Save quarterback, I can safely say I believe that there

1537
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: isn't a better roster. There might be equals with no

1538
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: better roster than the forty nine ers as far as

1539
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: impact guyes on both sides of the football, But quarterback

1540
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: is still the question. We talk about rock Party, this

1541
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: breakout star a year ago, we don't know his availability.

1542
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 2: Early on Trey Lance, obviously they used a lot of

1543
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 2: draft capital believing he could take Kyle Shanahan's offense to

1544
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: the next level. And then he have Sam Donald. What

1545
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: were your thoughts about Donald coming out of USC He

1546
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: was a turnover machine, but almost everyone agreed at the

1547
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 2: time that he had the best talent of any quarterback

1548
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: in that draft. Mayfield ended up number one. Donald goes

1549
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: three to the Jets. But is there still enough in

1550
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: Donald to say one more kick of the tires with him?

1551
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 3: I mean there's still enough. Normally, when you are a

1552
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 3: first round pick, you get about three vice at the

1553
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 3: Apple before people determine whether you can or can't play.

1554
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: Sam Donald is now on his third team, first to

1555
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 3: jest In the Panthers and now the forty nine Ers.

1556
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan has been singing his virtues, talking about how

1557
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 3: good he is and what he can bring in all

1558
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 3: those things, so you get a legitimate shot. But then

1559
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 3: it's on Sam Donald to prove to people that he

1560
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 3: can play to the level that he was drafted it now,

1561
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't hold out hope that he's going to play

1562
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 3: like the second or third round third pick in the draft,

1563
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 3: but maybe in that situation where he's surrounded by an

1564
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 3: A level support staff, he's playing in a system that

1565
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 3: makes it very very easy for the quarterback, maybe Sam

1566
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: Donald can shine there. But we'll see, because look, it's loaded.

1567
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 3: Brock Perty's delimit the injury. But you got Trey Lance

1568
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 3: and Sam Donald competing, both guys that have been disappointing

1569
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 3: to this stage. Let's see which one can win.

1570
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: Isn't that ironic that you have two quarterbacks that were,

1571
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, top three picks in the NFL draft and

1572
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 2: then you have a guy that the last pick in

1573
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: the draft and he's your go to guy. I mean

1574
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: what I mean? Does that speak as much about Shannan's

1575
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 2: offense as anything else? Why a guy like brock Party

1576
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: was so effective?

1577
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 3: Yes, And here's the thing, brock Purty only played seven games,

1578
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 3: so we got to see if it's real and sustainable.

1579
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 2: All right. Coming out on the other shide, we'll get

1580
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: more opinions about the upcoming the NFL Draft. Adam Kaplan

1581
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: our NFL in SAT will join us. This is Fox

1582
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1587
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Speaker 2: Rolling along here on another big Saturday. We got the

1588
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs underway, and we got that NFL Draft coming

1589
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,520
Speaker 2: up in a couple of weeks. It's also Jackie Robinson

1590
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1591
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1598
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: I did want to get to this Commander's sale. And

1599
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: by the way, Bucky, you have made it clear whatever

1600
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: ownership group does buy this franchise needs to change the name.

1601
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 2: Like you're you're not a fan of the Commanders. Was

1602
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: it better when they were just the Washington football team.

1603
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 3: Yes, it was much better. It was much better. They

1604
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 3: can change the name, they can change the uniforms. There's

1605
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 3: so much history and legacy in those old uniforms. They

1606
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: don't have to be cartoon as you talk about one

1607
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 3: of the historic franchises International Football League, and I know

1608
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 3: the Dan Snyder era has kind of tainted that, but

1609
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 3: you have to remember, like the greatness of the Washington franchise.

1610
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 3: And so look, man, go back to the Washington football team,

1611
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 3: go back to things that are more reminiscent of the

1612
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: way the old uniform looked. That's what those fans in

1613
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 3: that that that city, that's what they're about. Like, no

1614
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 3: one really takes the commanders seriously in terms of that

1615
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 3: nickname Moniker.

1616
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 2: By the way, to say that Daniel Snyder tainted this

1617
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: Washington franchise, it's like saying the Titanic sprung a leak.

1618
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: This guy is a disaster beyond belief.

1619
01:21:59,560 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 3: You know.

1620
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 2: I I'm so interested in people like Daniel Snyder, Like

1621
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 2: what makes a guy like this tick. He's a completely

1622
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: self made guy. You know, his whole background from a

1623
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 2: time he was a little kid, he was on a

1624
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: mission to make money, right, I mean, some people have

1625
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: a purpose in life, and it was clear that Snyder's

1626
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 2: purpose from a very early stage in his life was

1627
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 2: to find ways to make money, and he made it

1628
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: on his own. And back in nineteen ninety nine, he

1629
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: purchases the then Redskins from the state of Jack ken Cook,

1630
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 2: who had passed away, for eight hundred million dollars. And

1631
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: in all these years almost a quarter century since he

1632
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: took over ownership of this franchise, they're fifty seven games

1633
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: below five hundred. This is a franchise, by the way,

1634
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 2: that had won three Super Bowls prior to his arrival

1635
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 2: and two playoff game wins, two including his first year,

1636
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 2: when basically it was a team that he inherited. Despite

1637
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 2: the fact that he Hiawat, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, Mike Shanahan,

1638
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 2: he brought back Joe Gibbs. I mean, he's tried everything

1639
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 2: to be successful in terms of on the field. But

1640
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 2: we always talk about the success or failures of franchises

1641
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: beginning at the top. The question is whoever ends up

1642
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: with this franchise. You talked about changing the name, changing

1643
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: the team colors. I mean, how do you start the

1644
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: rebuilding process Because it's not just on the field that's

1645
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: a problem. This is an organization that is toxic throughout

1646
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 2: and has been throughout this long tenure of Daniel Snyder

1647
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 2: as the owner. How do you flush all of that

1648
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: out and restart a franchise and then get them competitive

1649
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: again again, not just on the field, but in terms

1650
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 2: of what's coming out of their front office and their

1651
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 2: management to get back on track with the elite teams

1652
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: in this.

1653
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 3: League, you have to organize alignment from top to bottom.

1654
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: Everyone has to be on the same page. Everyone has

1655
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 3: to have the same set of values, and everyone has

1656
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 3: to be held accountable for upholding those values. So once

1657
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: you get that in line in terms of we want

1658
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 3: to be a first class organization, we have the right people,

1659
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 3: We have the right people to do the right things

1660
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 3: and all of that, then it's about trying to figure

1661
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 3: out what the football product should look like. How much

1662
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 3: are we going to invest in the team? Is winning

1663
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 3: important for us? Are we really willing to put together

1664
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 3: a championship product? And then it's putting the pressure on

1665
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: the coaches and the general manager in the front office

1666
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 3: to make those things happen. And so it has to

1667
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: be like one singular voice and all that. And so

1668
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: I think it's just like when people take over any business.

1669
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 3: I think the new ownership group has to determine what

1670
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 3: it is they want their franchise to represent, and they

1671
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 3: have to convey that message to the leaders, the front

1672
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 3: office members, and the coaching staff. This is what we

1673
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 3: want this team to look like. This is how we

1674
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: want to operate here are the expectations, and when you

1675
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 3: put those things out there, then you can begin to

1676
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 3: work yourself back to being a respectable franchise because everyone

1677
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 3: knows exactly where we're going, what we're shooting for, and

1678
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 3: this is how we're going to get it done.

1679
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: What do you do with Ron Rivera. I mean, obviously

1680
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 2: he's been there for three seasons, not much to speak of.

1681
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: They've been pretty much in a the lateral over the

1682
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,879
Speaker 2: last three years. When you look over his coaching career,

1683
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: including his nine seasons in Carolina, there's a little you know,

1684
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 2: I'm counting him up. He's had exactly three winning seasons

1685
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 2: and his entire coaching career. People love his character. Obviously

1686
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: he's gone to some personal things with his cancer. But

1687
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: is he the right guy with new ownership to lead

1688
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: this team forward or do you clean house completely and

1689
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: start all over again.

1690
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 3: Some people say you clean house immediately. You get your

1691
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 3: own guys because it's your team. You want to make

1692
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 3: sure that you have the people that you want in

1693
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 3: place now because there's a bit of a change because

1694
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 3: of where we are right now in the off season.

1695
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 3: He has to do this. It's a performance based business.

1696
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 3: If he performs if the team performs under his leadership

1697
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 3: this year, then you continue on with that. But if not, yeah,

1698
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 3: you have to know, and so everyone in that building knows.

1699
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 3: Whenever there's changed, everyone has to sit up a little

1700
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 3: straight because they know that everyone is being evaluated, and

1701
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 3: so he's been evaluated. He knows that everyone who understoods

1702
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 3: when you have an ownership change, things tend to change,

1703
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 3: and so they have to be at their best. It

1704
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 3: means crushing the draft. Make sure they have a draft

1705
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 3: that people talk about, but not only has it talked about,

1706
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 3: but you can see it when the team takes the

1707
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 3: field in the fall. This has to be a great

1708
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 3: year for the commanders on the field for everyone in

1709
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 3: that building to continue to hold on to the responsibilities

1710
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 3: and roles that they currently have.

1711
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: I was in Houston when the NFL owners got together

1712
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 2: to vote on the situation of the two proposals moving

1713
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: forward as far as a potential RAMS moved to Los

1714
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 2: Angeles or the Raiders and the Chargers sharing an La

1715
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: residence and any time, and the only other I think

1716
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: I was at an NFL owner's meeting was back in

1717
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine when they were awarding the final expansion

1718
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: franchise that was back when they had Texans became a

1719
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: projected future franchise. When you see these owners, these billionaire

1720
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: owners all together, and I'll never get the vote on

1721
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 2: the situation with the Los Angeles market outside of the

1722
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 2: hotel or these multiple limos they wanted to get out

1723
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: of there. It was projected to be a two day deal,

1724
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: but it was pretty clear we're going to get this

1725
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 2: deal done.

1726
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 3: Now.

1727
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: The reason I mentioned this is Jeff Bezos. So you

1728
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 2: have Jeff Bezos, who obviously is one of the wealthiest

1729
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 2: people in the world. They head of Amazon, and they

1730
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: seemed disappointed that the guy like Besos didn't look at

1731
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 2: six billion dollars and say, I mean, he has enough

1732
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 2: money to buy every team in the league. If he

1733
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: wanted to that, he wouldn't maybe up the anty a

1734
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 2: little more. Because I understand this, a six billion dollar

1735
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 2: purchase price for the Washington Commanders raises the value of

1736
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: every team around the NFL. So the more money infused

1737
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 2: into these expansion franchises, well over four billion for the

1738
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 2: Broncos and their sale and now six billion in counting

1739
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: with the Commanders raises everybody's bar. But do you think

1740
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 2: the NFL owners would be comfortable with a guy like

1741
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: Besos in the room, who could look around this room

1742
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 2: and saying, literally, I could buy every one of your franchises,

1743
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 2: all of them and without a blink of an eye.

1744
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: Would that be a comfortable situation? And you've been around

1745
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: these owners, you've been to owners meetings, Buck, what do

1746
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: you think about that?

1747
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 3: I don't think it would be a major issue. If

1748
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 3: Bezos decided that he wanted to buy the team bought

1749
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,799
Speaker 3: the team, he certainly would be welcome into the club.

1750
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 3: I don't think they're running around counting each other's money.

1751
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 3: But he certainly has the big joker in his phase

1752
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 3: turns when it comes to the amount of money that

1753
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 3: he's made in those things. Yeah, so no, they were

1754
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 3: welcome him in if you can do the right things.

1755
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 3: I think the thing with Daniel Snyder being kind of

1756
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 3: punted out, it was just all of the other stuff

1757
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 3: that kind of came along with the allegations and then

1758
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 3: the funny money. When it got to the point where

1759
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,839
Speaker 3: they were talking about cooking the books and that stuff,

1760
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 3: that's when the ownership was like, hey man, he has

1761
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 3: to go because that began to affect their pockets. And

1762
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 3: so as long as Bezos has the money, does what

1763
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 3: he's supposed to do, yeah, they certainly be welcoming.

1764
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: In because I remember that day down in Houston. This

1765
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 2: was very interesting because Stan Cronky, you have to understand,

1766
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: his wife is part of the Walton family Walmart, so

1767
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: he had money, but his wife has money. And so

1768
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,839
Speaker 2: the report was and I remember talking to Amy Trask

1769
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 2: and when she heard that they actually had a silent

1770
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 2: vote or like you know, she said, the only time

1771
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 2: the owners ever get together where there's not just to

1772
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: show of hands on a vote vote is when they're

1773
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 2: voting for a Super Bowl site or voting on a

1774
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 2: new commissioner. And yet what happened that year was is

1775
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 2: they had a vote, and apparently it was in favor

1776
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 2: of the Chargers and the Raiders sharing the stadium as

1777
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 2: opposed to the Rams moving to Inglewood. That was the

1778
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 2: first vote, at which point, allegedly Jerry Jones, who was

1779
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 2: an ally of Kronkey, got up and reminded everyone because

1780
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 2: Kronky basically said I will sue your pants off if

1781
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 2: you don't let me make this move. And Jerry Jones

1782
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 2: reminded everybody he has the money to do it. So

1783
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: they went to a silent vote and guess what happened.

1784
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 2: Stan Kronky got it, although he had to have taken

1785
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 2: a second team. That was part of it. But I mean,

1786
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 2: when we're talking about this kind of money and not

1787
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: everybody in that room's equals say, oh, they're all billionaires.

1788
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 3: Different kind of billionaires.

1789
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 2: Franchises are worth a billion, but that's you know, that's

1790
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: staper value as opposed to what's in your bank account.

1791
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,799
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for saying that, because it's different.

1792
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 3: It's a difference and the way it looks on paper

1793
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,520
Speaker 3: and is it liquid. Yeah, we talk about guaranteed contracts

1794
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 3: and why some loaners are reluctant is because a set

1795
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 3: amount of that money has to be put in escrow,

1796
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 3: and so you have to have real dollars to be

1797
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 3: able to put one hundred million plus in escrow, not

1798
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 3: to touch it, not to utilize it. So yeah, there

1799
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 3: are different levels to this when it comes to ownership.

1800
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: The chargers are a prime example of this with the

1801
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 2: Spanos family, which basically their tire net worth is the

1802
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 2: net worth of the charge of franchise, but liquid not

1803
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 2: so much all right, coming up on the other side,

1804
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 2: we've been talking about this NFL Draft less than two

1805
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 2: weeks away. We're gonna jump in with our Fox Sports

1806
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 2: Radio NFL Insider. Adam Kaplan joins us next Steve Harban,

1807
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. You are listening into Fox Sports Saturday and

1808
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: we are live from the ti iraq dot com studios.

1809
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna get you ready for the NFL Draft, which

1810
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 2: cornea Bucky. There's only one bigger thing, and that's the

1811
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Joining us right now is our Fox Sports

1812
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 2: Radio NFL Insider Inside the Birds podcast series XM NFL.

1813
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 2: You get it. The man is everywhere. We have missed you, Adam.

1814
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: It's great to have you back on this Saturday here.

1815
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: Let's get to business here. Before we get to some

1816
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 2: of the latest draft news, a couple of things to

1817
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 2: take care of. What's the latest on the sale of

1818
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 2: the Commanders? What is the holdup? If any disappointed by

1819
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 2: the price tag, which by the way, was what thirty

1820
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: percent more than what the Broncos went for? Take us

1821
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 2: through the process. When will this officially be done?

1822
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? So here's the first thing.

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01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 8: It's sort of like a bill of sale, so you

1824
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 8: have a verbal agreement, you have an agreement and principle

1825
01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 8: between the Josh Harrish group and then obviously Daniel Snyder,

1826
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:03,799
Speaker 8: but because nothing has been signed, their speculation that maybe

1827
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 8: someone else raised the price.

1828
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 3: My understanding is.

1829
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 8: From one of their coaches who found out yesterday that

1830
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 8: he asked me about Josh Harris.

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01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming that this is going to happen. You know,

1832
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 3: there's other reports out there.

1833
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 8: So Josh Harris has been an interesting guy, owner of

1834
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 8: the Sixers in the NBA, the Devil's his group of

1835
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 8: the NHL, and remember he tried to buy the Broncos.

1836
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 8: He wanted it, it fell a little bit short. They

1837
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 8: got Magic Johnson involved. He's sort of like the lucky

1838
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 8: charm and this thing's going to get done. Now here's

1839
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 8: the process. So you have to have everything that the

1840
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,480
Speaker 8: attorneys for both sides have to sign off. The paperwork's

1841
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 8: got to be signed off, then sent into the league.

1842
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 8: Now we've got an owner's meetings late next month. This

1843
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 8: is what's called the Spring meeting. There'll be an update

1844
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 8: there for sure, and then what happens is if everything,

1845
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 8: if the league's satisfied with what they've been told and

1846
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 8: what they see, it'll be brought up to a special vote,

1847
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 8: just like the Broncos last year they had. The agreement

1848
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 8: of the sale was in June and it got voted on.

1849
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 8: You needed three quarters vote. It got passed to the

1850
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 8: Walmart group in August.

1851
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 3: You know, Adam, you've been around the league long enough

1852
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 3: to know when ownership changes, that typically means the front

1853
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:24,759
Speaker 3: office in the yay coach changes. So does Ron Rivera

1854
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 3: into this year? Kind of like a win and a

1855
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 3: win and go home situation pretty much. You know.

1856
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 8: The shame of it is, this is what happened with

1857
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 8: him in Carolina. David Tepper buys the team, he has

1858
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 8: one year under temper, then he's let go and here

1859
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 8: you go. Now, Josh Harris, I could tell you from

1860
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 8: people who have worked for the Sixers, is very demanding.

1861
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 8: He's not nuck. He's I think he's gonna be a

1862
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 8: good owner. He's actually been a good Sixers owner. He's

1863
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 8: willing to spend money. You're not going to read anything

1864
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 8: embarrassing about him off the field or anything like that.

1865
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 8: But he's a demanding guy. From people have worked for

1866
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 8: him with a Sixers so well, we'll see how it goes.

1867
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 8: But yeah, Bucky there's no question. And by the way,

1868
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 8: Ron's personnel control, which is also interesting. He brought in

1869
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 8: some of his people from Carolina to Washington. Marty Hernie's

1870
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,799
Speaker 8: the big one. And yeah, more often non professional sports,

1871
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 8: the ownership. Now, look, if they make the playoffs with

1872
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 8: a group of quarterbacks they have, I mean, I can't

1873
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 8: imagine Ron will lose his job. But remember now, Josh Howarsh,

1874
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 8: like Daniel Senader, grew up a Washington Commander's fan, or

1875
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 8: of course the football team fan. He's from that areas,

1876
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 8: from Maryland, and this getting this team means a lot

1877
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 8: to him. So yeah, the expectations absolutely are going to

1878
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 8: be raised here.

1879
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 2: Why did the Ravens sign Odell Beckham?

1880
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 3: H So this is fascinating.

1881
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 8: So when I don't know if I think I talked

1882
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 8: to you guys after I got home from the owners

1883
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 8: of meeting. So well, first of all, if you looked

1884
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 8: Steve at the raven situation at receiver, it's been dire.

1885
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 8: They finished the season. Things got so bad. Sammy Watkins

1886
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 8: was there, Deshaun Jackson was there. They were just finding

1887
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 8: anyone who could walk and that was pretty much it.

1888
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 8: And so and Rashad Bateman who'spposed to be their number

1889
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,799
Speaker 8: one receiver, had the list Frank injury.

1890
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 3: That's a nine month rehabit that at very.

1891
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 8: Least it's a bad it's a mid foot break that's

1892
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 8: a really bad one. So they brought in Nelson Aguler

1893
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 8: as a journeyman receiver could play inside and outside. They

1894
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 8: didn't have anyone to start opposite him. They don't know

1895
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 8: that they feel optimistic about Bateman's recovery, but they can't

1896
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 8: say for sure. And when you look at it, guys,

1897
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 8: they had to do something. But the thing is, Steve

1898
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 8: on your question, it's really I got to tell you

1899
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,919
Speaker 8: it's unlike Eric da Costa, their general manager is very conservative,

1900
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 8: like is his mentor Ozzie Newsom.

1901
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 3: They like to draft and develop.

1902
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 8: They supplement a little bit for a free agency but

1903
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 8: what people in the league are calling this is an

1904
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 8: above market deal. No one in free agency got more

1905
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 8: than eleven million a season, and he's got fifteen million

1906
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 8: fully guarantee. It's sorrying that's hard to believe a guy's

1907
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 8: coming back from the second a c lentry to his

1908
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 8: left knee. But they're desperate and they're desperate to get

1909
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 8: this done. Now I know people are speculating, well, Lamar

1910
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 8: will come in right now. No, Lamar has not changed

1911
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 8: his mind. I know that he and Obja are friends.

1912
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 8: Like the hope is by the start of training camp,

1913
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 8: the heartstrings are pulled by obj it comes in there.

1914
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 8: But understand here, the one thing that really is disappointing.

1915
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 8: You've got a new You've got a new, brand new

1916
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 8: offensive scheme here with Todd Monkin. It's completely different from

1917
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 8: Greg Romans, and Lamar's got to learn this offense.

1918
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:19,959
Speaker 3: And I'm saying this because.

1919
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 8: I don't it's I don't say it's never happened, but

1920
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 8: right now it's holly unlikely Lamar is going to be.

1921
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 3: Moved, you know, in thinking about the Lamar situation and

1922
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 3: then like, I want to go to quarterbacks. So there's

1923
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 3: been a lot of conversation about the Houston Texans and

1924
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 3: the draft and maybe the Houston Texans may not be

1925
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 3: in love with the second quarterback that could be available

1926
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 3: in the draft and they may move out and maybe

1927
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 3: take a defensive player. Have you heard anything about the

1928
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,640
Speaker 3: Texans not feeling depression to take a quarterback at the

1929
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Speaker 3: top of the draft.

1930
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Speaker 8: Well, Bucky, here's the thing that we should mention with

1931
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 8: the Texans. So they have the Browns first round pick

1932
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 8: from the Deshaun Watson Treve have the twelfth pick overall,

1933
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 8: and will Levis and Richardson are certainly wild cards. Will

1934
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 8: Levis look, some people think, well, for four quarterbacks go

1935
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 8: in the first nine picks. Okay, maybe that'll happen, or

1936
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 8: Philly trades out, maybe someone will trade up to get

1937
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 8: the tenth pick from the Eagles. And because the Eagles

1938
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 8: are always looking a wheel and deal, particularly, they have

1939
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 8: two first round picks. So when it comes to the Texans,

1940
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 8: they have to come out of this first round with

1941
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 8: a quarterback. They have to, so Bucky, they're going to

1942
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 8: draft a quarterback, whether it's two or twelve, a trade

1943
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 8: down because they are in a complete rebuild. Nick Cassari

1944
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 8: or the GM, I know he walked into a the

1945
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 8: hornet's nest two years ago with his team. You don't

1946
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 8: even know about the Shawn Watson stuff. Nobody know about it.

1947
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 8: But this is a total rebuild. So if they trade down,

1948
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 8: they have to think they're going to get one or

1949
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 8: two quarterbacks. I'll answer your question that way. They would

1950
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 8: not do this without knowing they're going to get a

1951
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,919
Speaker 8: quarterback within the first twelve picks.

1952
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Speaker 2: I'm always curious about the evolution of things in general.

1953
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: And as you know, Adam, back in the day, I

1954
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 2: was in that draft room in nineteen eighty seven, mister Davis,

1955
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 2: Ron Wolf, Tom Floores, all Hall of famers when in

1956
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 2: the seventh round of what was then a twelve round draft,

1957
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 2: they said, you know what, as mister Davis said, let's

1958
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 2: let's take Bo Jackson. Gosh, it's quite a scene. But

1959
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 2: it was so mom and pop back in those days,

1960
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: obviously compared to what it is now. What are some

1961
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 2: of the later latest trends now in the way teams

1962
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 2: are operating this draft, Because you know, Bucky and I

1963
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 2: have talked about the fact that not only do you

1964
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 2: have your own draft war, but you have to figure

1965
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: out whatever he else is doing. You have to have

1966
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 2: a Plan B, Plan CE, Plan D. Are there any

1967
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 2: differences maybe in the scouting routines or just the general

1968
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: demeanor of NFL teams as they approach the draft.

1969
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Speaker 8: Well, they have more information, although it's paralysis by analysis

1970
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 8: in some respects, they definitely have more information. And here's

1971
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 8: here's one for you. You kind of alluded to us,

1972
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 8: but I'll go a little deeper. Every team doesn't own

1973
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 8: mock draft. They they have every other team's what they

1974
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 8: project to be the depth charts right for the draft.

1975
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 3: I've seen it before.

1976
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 8: Teams have shown me kind of what they because they

1977
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 8: didn't show me theirs, but they'll show me the other

1978
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 8: teams where they they think. They basically have an idea

1979
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 8: of Steve answered question, what the other team's going to do?

1980
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 3: Do they know one hundred percent? No?

1981
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 8: But the other thing is they will like this guy.

1982
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 8: I'm just going to tell you and I'm not going

1983
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 8: to look this is interesting. So and anyone who's done

1984
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 8: high level reporting has been through this. You will get

1985
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 8: calls from gms, hey what do you if they know

1986
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,680
Speaker 8: you like it, if they know you're close to a

1987
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 8: particular team, I'll give you. In twenty twenty draft, there

1988
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 8: was a GM that called me said, hey, I know

1989
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 8: you've done a lot of reporting on the specific It

1990
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 8: wasn't the Eagles, it was a different team, and he

1991
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 8: asked me, hey, what do you think. I said, I'll

1992
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,600
Speaker 8: find you know, I'll know. I mean, i won't know

1993
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 8: one hundred percent, but I'll have a pretty good idea

1994
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 8: where they're going to go. So this is what's happened

1995
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 8: since Steve Well you were the Raiders. The information gathering

1996
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 8: is very, very intense. And by the way, they have

1997
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 8: their interns scouring Twitter to see player visits and any

1998
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 8: any speculation, and they also look at all these mock drafts.

1999
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 8: It's kind of shocks me, but a lot of general

2000
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 8: managers do that.

2001
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 3: That's funny. When I was with the Carolina Panthers, we

2002
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,560
Speaker 3: used to mock the mocks, meaning we used to on

2003
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 3: the backboard. We used to have the top eight guys

2004
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 3: that we viewed as demock drafters. We would always updated

2005
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 3: so we can kind of see which names were were trending.

2006
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 3: And so that is not a surprise to hear you

2007
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,640
Speaker 3: talk about that part of it quickly. I remember at

2008
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 3: the owner's meetings, Jed York talked about the best thing

2009
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 3: that you can do is have a rookie quarter if

2010
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 3: a quarterback on a young rookie deal, that allows you

2011
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:35,719
Speaker 3: to build up the team. I've heard more owners talk

2012
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 3: like that. Do you believe that buzz that that theory

2013
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 3: is kind of circulating at the higher level, so we

2014
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 3: may see more teams kind of commit to younger quarterbacks

2015
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 3: because it appears to give your team a better chance

2016
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 3: of reaching the Super Bowl. Well, here's the thing.

2017
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,759
Speaker 8: Rock Party is going to be the starter, like he's

2018
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 8: you know, he took the less invasive elbow surgery. And

2019
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 8: this is the crazinesself. And they cannot do anything to

2020
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 8: his contract because he's only the second year. Folks, He's

2021
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 8: only and I say only, but he's only going to

2022
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 8: make eight hundred and seventy thousand this coming season.

2023
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 3: I mean that's just insane. And again they can't touch it.

2024
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 8: You have to wait till after the third season that

2025
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 8: came in about about twenty years ago, or the CBA

2026
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 8: you had to wait three years instead of two years

2027
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 8: to extend a deal or restructure or extend.

2028
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 3: Look, but when it.

2029
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 8: Comes to the Niners, right with Trey Lance, this is

2030
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 8: never their plan for Brock Party to start. It's just

2031
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 8: happened he got hurt. Yeah, I don't know that they

2032
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 8: want to get They always want to go with the

2033
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 8: best player, no matter what the cost is. But what

2034
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 8: we're seeing there's more of a willingness. And this is

2035
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 8: why I brought up San Francisco. You would think with

2036
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:42,600
Speaker 8: all that the Niners gave up to trade of for

2037
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 8: Trey Lance. They would just say, look, Brock did a

2038
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 8: great job and maybe he's going to be a good backup,

2039
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 8: but Trey Lance's a got We gave up.

2040
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 3: A ton of give up for him.

2041
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 8: No, that's I'm told they made this decision as soon

2042
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 8: as they lost in Philly. They didn't know how bad

2043
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 8: it was within twenty four hours with Purdy, and they're

2044
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 8: still say the same thing. Once party are ready to go.

2045
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 8: He's their starter and Kay Shanhan has been very public

2046
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 8: about it, like he'll give Lance a chance to beat

2047
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 8: him out. But it's pretty mania sort of going forward here,

2048
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:12,640
Speaker 8: and that's the way they want to go.

2049
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 2: Final word here, Adam. As far as the draft is concidered, now,

2050
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 2: Bucky who's seen it all, done it all, he said,

2051
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 2: super Bowl one, Draft two on the NFL calendar. Where

2052
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 2: do you rate the NFL draft in terms of popularity?

2053
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 8: Well, well, certainly yes, that would be one and two

2054
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 8: in terms of populator, But again it depends, Like for

2055
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 8: what I do for a living, super Bowl Media, Steve,

2056
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 8: you and I commiserated in matt and we had we a.

2057
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 3: Lot of fun.

2058
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 8: Super Bowl actually do a lot of business for my career,

2059
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 8: like I'm able to see people. It's super Bowl media.

2060
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 8: They called media row. Now they don't call radio run anymore.

2061
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 2: Because of the podcasters exactly. It was ninety percent podcast.

2062
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's great for business now, but for for general public,

2063
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 8: nothing will ever beat the Super Bowl. But I would

2064
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 8: tell you though, there there's some times. Look, it could be,

2065
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 8: it could be the play it could.

2066
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 3: No, I know.

2067
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 8: Let me leave you with this, and you guys, I

2068
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 8: would think I would agree sometimes. Wildcard weekend fantastic. The

2069
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 8: more games we have in the playoffs, the better. And

2070
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 8: I was not a fan of it, by the way,

2071
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 8: when they expanded the playoff grouping per conference, but I've

2072
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 8: grown to actually really like it.

2073
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 2: Adam, it's great to have you back. We can't be

2074
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: a weekend without you. So next week will be that

2075
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 2: much closer to the big draft day. Adam, your absolute best.

2076
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 2: Thanks so much. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you,

2077
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan Jonius, there are Fox Sports Radio, NFL Insider.

2078
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now

2079
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: as we will welcome back months here. Who you know,

2080
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 2: I had a little talk with her mom today and yes,

2081
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, as everything's settled down at the house.

2082
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, now she's just too nice. She's nice.

2083
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 2: If the people that parked their van in front of

2084
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 2: your parents driveway was upset about the ticket they saw

2085
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: on the window, how would your mom have handled that?

2086
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 2: I hope there wasn't that.

2087
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 9: I don't know what my mom would have done. I

2088
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 9: don't I don't know. My mom's not doesn't like to

2089
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 9: start drama or encourage drama or anything. We're very opposite.

2090
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,759
Speaker 9: We're exact. I could not have fallen further.

2091
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 2: From the try. You are pure, is the way she is.

2092
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 9: Probably probably, but no, I'm sure if she saw something.

2093
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 5: You know, it wouldn't surprise me. If my mom was

2094
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 5: like peeking through a.

2095
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 4: Window as these people approach the car, and I haven't

2096
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 4: talked to her, so I don't even know.

2097
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 5: They might still not be out their car.

2098
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 4: Yet, but she would be totally peaking from like a

2099
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 4: window where she can't be seen, to see how they

2100
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 4: would react.

2101
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 5: One hundred percent that is my mother.

2102
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 4: As I said, I would be outside waiting for them

2103
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 4: so I can have a.

2104
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 5: Little chit chat about their choices. But you know, that's

2105
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 5: another day, another day, guys.

2106
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 4: The third NBA Playoff game is officially underway between the

2107
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 4: Knicks and the Cavs. Still plenty of game left, three

2108
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 4: minutes to go in the first quarter, but it's the Knicks.

2109
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 5: Who are up. Twenty one point eighteen is the score.

2110
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 4: This is the matchup that I said could go to

2111
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 4: seven games. I called that the Celtics would sweep the Hawks,

2112
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 4: and I'm saying this one could go to seven games.

2113
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 4: That's what I think. But yeah, Nicks on top twenty

2114
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 4: one eighteen, three minutes to go in the first quarter.

2115
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 4: Earlier today, victories for the seventy six ers, who took

2116
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 4: down the Nets one twenty one to one oh one.

2117
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,679
Speaker 5: They hit twenty one three pointers in that victory, and.

2118
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 4: The Boston Celtics beat the Atlanta Hawks one twelve to

2119
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 4: ninety nine.

2120
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 5: That score doesn't do a justice.

2121
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 4: They were up by thirty at one point, but the

2122
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 4: final score one twelve to ninety nine.

2123
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 5: Jalen Brown led the way for the.

2124
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 4: Celtics twenty nine points, twelve rebounds, Trey Young five of

2125
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 4: eighteen from the field. No Bueno ended with sixteen points

2126
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 4: and eight assists. Major League Baseball, it is Jackie Robinson Day.

2127
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 4: Everybody's wearing forty two. This is the day where those

2128
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 4: people in the press box are having a rough time.

2129
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 5: Everybody looks the same. Everybody's waiting forty two.

2130
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 4: I do believe though you, mister Hartman, you would be

2131
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 4: fine if you were covering baseball in a prospect.

2132
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 2: I honestly I am.

2133
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 3: You know.

2134
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 2: The funny thing about it is, I am a numbers fanatic.

2135
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 2: Are except when it comes to uniform numbers. People say, so,

2136
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 2: what a uniform is that guy?

2137
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Speaker 3: Where?

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01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Well, today it would be perfect for you. Everybody's wearing

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Speaker 5: forty two.

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01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 2: But I for what, I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to uniform numbers. I never have.

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01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 9: I'm with you, I know, like the obvious ones, but

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Speaker 9: I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I know forty two.

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Speaker 5: We know forty two. Everybody's wearing that today.

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Speaker 4: And currently going on, it's the Nationals beating the Guardians

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Speaker 4: three to one.

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Speaker 5: Bottom of the third inning.

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Speaker 4: The Brewers and the Padres were tied at one point,

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01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 4: and the Padres have taken the lead. Eight to three

2153
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 4: is the score. Top of the eighth inning. You catch

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01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 4: this game on FS one. The Mets of taking the

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01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 4: lead over the A's they were tied, not anymore three

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01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 4: to two bottom of the eighth in. The Angels and

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01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 4: the Red Sox were tied, but the Angels are now

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01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 4: on top seven to six, top of the eighth, Marlins

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01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 4: beating the Diamondbacks three to two bottom of the eighth inning,

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Speaker 4: and the Reds are shutting out the Phillies eight zero,

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01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 4: bottom of the eighth inning. Victories for the Twins, the Tigers,

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01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 4: it was micgau Cabrera who walked it off with an

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01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 4: RBI single and they beat the Giants. Victories also for

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01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 4: the White Sox, the Pirates, and the Blue Jays and

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Speaker 4: other just NBA news that I thought this was interesting.

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01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 4: The Bulls had their end of the year press conference.

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01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,680
Speaker 4: They lost yesterday to the Miami Heat, so they're not

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01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, the official playoffs, but the VP or

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01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 4: vice president of the Bulls said that the team is

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01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,719
Speaker 4: not looking to rebuild in the offseason, that he believes

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01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 4: in the core despite going forty to forty two, and

2172
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 4: he expressed that he would like to bring the entire

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01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 4: roster back the Chicago Bulls back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: That's usually the sign that you're out the door. I mean,

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01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 2: if you're the guy in charge of personnel, and you're

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01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 2: good with a losing season, Let's do it again. It's

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01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,639
Speaker 2: usually the time to move on and find another line

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01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 2: of work.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If I was the owner of the team, I'm like, so,

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01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 2: you're good with this, you like that, you want to

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01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 2: repeat it next year, expecting different results you had a

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01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, maybe remind him that I'm not happy

2184
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 2: with a losing season and a ten seed, regardless of

2185
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 2: one of our players daughters screaming our way to a

2186
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 2: play in victory. All right, Montzie, thank you so much.

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01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Great job as the usual. Yeah, I don't. I don't

2188
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 2: think any GM worth his salt would be happy after

2189
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 2: even a five hundred season.

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01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to get better, right, Bucky.

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01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 2: I mean, that's sorry prerequisite when you're mediocre. I wanted

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01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 2: to I was going to ask Adam this, and we

2193
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 2: ran out of time with Adam. I'll ask you this

2194
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 2: as we continue to look ahead to this NFL draft.

2195
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 2: So again, looking at when is your mock draft four

2196
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 2: point zero going to be out, Bucky, win to your

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01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 2: next mock.

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Speaker 3: Draft that would be next Monday, I think next week

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Speaker 3: of the draft.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll have one more mock draft. But when

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Speaker 2: we we we Caroline obviously moving up to get the

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01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 2: number one overall pick. But we've for all the speculation

2203
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 2: about Houston at two, Arizona three, and they had four.

2204
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Seattle and Detroit fell into their

2205
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 2: picks at five and six. Do you expect because we

2206
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 2: always speculate on teams trading down adding picks. Again, with

2207
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 2: when you talk about the Texans, their situation is unique

2208
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 2: because he also had the twelve pick in the draft.

2209
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Speaker 2: So you know, they could say, wow, we were not

2210
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 2: happy with either you know, Bryce Young or c. J. Stroud,

2211
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 2: whoever's sitting at number two. Maybe we're more in answer,

2212
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, with Elevis or Richardson. Maybe we like them

2213
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 2: and can get them at number twelve. But when you

2214
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 2: look at these teams at the very top of the draft,

2215
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 2: are they going to hold their positions or do you

2216
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 2: see one or more? Are these teams trading down in

2217
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 2: this year's draft?

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to have a trade partner, you know,

2219
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 3: you have to have someone who wants to get up

2220
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 3: to your spot. And a lot of times the players

2221
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 3: drive that many of the talent of the players makes

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01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 3: it where you want to get up there, and so

2223
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 3: this year is different because there aren't as many blue

2224
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 3: chip players as we normally would have at the top

2225
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 3: of the draft, and so there's not the same fervor

2226
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 3: or excitement about moving up. Yes, we have speculated that,

2227
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 3: you know, quarterback could drive it, someone would come up

2228
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 3: to get one of the quarterbacks, but I'm still kind

2229
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 3: of hesitant on that because I need to see it.

2230
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 3: After last year, after we talked so much about those quarterbacks.

2231
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 3: We talked about all of them, you know, we talked

2232
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 3: about Malie Willis and Desmond Ritter, and we try to

2233
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 3: manufacture situations with Matt Carroll Corral trying to be first

2234
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:45,600
Speaker 3: round picks. And none of those guys went in the

2235
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 3: first round. All of them were third round picks. And

2236
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 3: so I just think everyone needs to be careful to

2237
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 3: not fall into that TV Land fantasy of a the

2238
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 3: quarterbacks drive everything. We have to do it and just

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01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 3: make sure that the talent of the players drives it.

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Speaker 3: And so I don't see it as there may be

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01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 3: some movement, but I don't think it's going to be

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01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 3: the feeding frenzy where everyone is trying to trade up

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01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 3: to get into the top ten.

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Speaker 2: It just seems crazy to me. With so many teams

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01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 2: looking for quarterbacks, so many teams talking about, you know,

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01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 2: an Anthony Richardson or Will Levice, you know, two guys

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01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 2: that you have deemed not worthy based on their talent

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01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:24,759
Speaker 2: to be high picks in this draft, and yet still

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01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,440
Speaker 2: not a single offer for Lamar.

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01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 3: Jackson, not one. Well, some of that, the Lamar Jackson thing,

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01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 3: some of that stems from the fact that, you know,

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01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 3: when I briefly asked Adam about like owners and this

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01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 3: buzz or this trend where people are talking about the

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01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 3: money and the more you're able to build around a

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01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 3: young quarterback, the better it is in terms of just

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Speaker 3: being able to allocate cash elsewhere. Teams don't necessarily want

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01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 3: the high priced quarterback. And so when you have that

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01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 3: and it appears that that's the way that just going

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01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 3: cycle with Lamar Jackson, that's why you don't have the

2260
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 3: same interest. You ask there's some questions about his game

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01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 3: and those things, but it's the sticker price. If Lamar

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01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 3: Jackson's sticker price wasn't over forty million dollars, with more

2263
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 3: interest in that, but because it is what it is

2264
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 3: and where it's going to be like. That's why you've

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01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 3: had a lot of people not want to even engage

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Speaker 3: in it.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at Atlanta right there, sitting with the eighth pick.

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01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 2: You're telling me Atlanta will be willing to pay the price,

2269
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 2: Arthur Blank. I mean, this guy, he's gotten to Super Bowl,

2270
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 2: came as close to a Super Bowl when as possible,

2271
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 2: blowing that game obviously to the in Patriots. You're telling

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01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: me sitting there, you wouldn't give up two number ones

2273
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 2: and whatever price tag necessary to get a Lamar Jackson,

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01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 2: especially in that division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, look there's something to that. But

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01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 3: you know the other thing that you always doesn't remember, Steve,

2277
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 3: when it comes to this stuff is whatever people thought

2278
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 3: about a player in the run up to the draft.

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01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:00,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, you're telling them.

2280
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 3: Very reluctant to move off of those initial opinions. So

2281
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 3: a lot of times you spend that player's whole career saying,

2282
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 3: see I told you, see I told you he wasn't

2283
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 3: or he was or those things. It's kind of like

2284
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 3: the fascination with Sam Donald. The people that were pro

2285
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 3: Sam Donald are the ones that are optimistic that San

2286
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 3: Francisco will finally give us the opportunity to see the

2287
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 3: Sam Donald that we talked about coming out of USC.

2288
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,879
Speaker 3: Those who are more doubtful or don't believe in Sam,

2289
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 3: then I don't understand why you keep getting these opportunities.

2290
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 3: So a lot of it is how do you come

2291
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 3: into the league, how you view coming into the league.

2292
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 3: A lot of that determines the way people view you

2293
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 3: around the league.

2294
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, why this

2295
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 2: is such a big day for Major League Baseball. This

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01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday.

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01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 1: Joelle with at a three point shot playing beats Dude,

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01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 1: you'll had one three in the regular season against Brooklyn,

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01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 1: but it gives us Sixers their largest lead up the game.

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01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 2: twenty one of forty three. That's forty eight point eight

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01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 2: percent on their three point shooting. James Harden alone seven

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01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 2: threes today, so blowout win. This series is going to be.

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:34,839
Speaker 3: Quick quick Ken ken Ja's better first game, Ken jaz better.

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01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 2: First Like I mean, I mean the nets are down

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01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 2: a couple of superstar players, the one that's still live

2313
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 2: and another one that is not alive in the playoffs.

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01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 2: By the way, once again we are live from the

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01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 2: tirek dot Com studios. Want to thank our revolving supporting

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01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 2: crew today, so Chris always takes over for Iowa, Sam

2317
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 2: Montsey obviously doing the updates, and then we went from

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01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 2: Ryan to Brandon producing today. There was a lot of

2319
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 2: musical chairs going on here today, Bucky guys coming and going,

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01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 2: so a lot of busyness out there. I want to

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01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 2: get back again to what's happening today in Major League

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01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 2: Baseball with Jackie Robinson Day, not just Jackie Robinson Day,

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01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 2: but just in general. I mean, wow, Major League Baseball

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01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 2: has really made some sweeping changes that at least early on,

2325
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 2: are doing exactly what they were hoping they were hoping

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01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: with a pitch clock and with no longer having the

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01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 2: shift available to load up one side of the diamond,

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01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 2: and the multiple throws, limiting the throws to first base,

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01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 2: that it would shorten the games. How about thirty minutes

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01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 2: less on average? Thirty minutes less scoring is way up.

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01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 2: Something you and I both talked about that were in

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01:56:57,080 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 2: love with stolen bases. They're back, I mean they're back

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01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 2: with a vengeance.

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01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 2: I saw yesterday the Brewers had six stolen bases in

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01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 2: their game against the Podreys. Well was the last time

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01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:13,480
Speaker 2: we saw that? So everything they were hoping to happen

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01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 2: for major League baseball. And again, when you think about

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01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 2: what Jackie Robinson brought to the major leagues as a player,

2340
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 2: he was the kind of guy that when he was

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01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 2: on the base, pass he was not only a fast runner,

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01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 2: but he was an aggressive runner. I mean he was

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01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 2: a football player. He looked like a football player, and

2344
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 2: he ran with a vengeance out there, and just everyone

2345
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 2: was on their feet anytime that Jackie was on base.

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01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 2: To see what he's going to do and to bring

2347
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 2: some of that element back to baseball, I think is

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01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 2: going a long way. I love what I see so

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01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: far this year in Major League baseball.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm with you, I love it. It is brought the

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01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 3: old school baseball back. It's exciting to watch because before

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01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I would go to Dodger games and

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01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,000
Speaker 3: the Dodgers were big boppers, like they're hitting, waiting for

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01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 3: home runs, and so man, you go inning upon inning

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01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 3: upon inning without seeing any action. Well, now you're seeing

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01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 3: people play small ball. You're seeing people bunt, you're seeing

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01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 3: people move people over, you're seeing the return of the

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Speaker 3: stolen base and some of the hit and run stuff

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01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:17,839
Speaker 3: that used to be popularized in the seventies and eighties.

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Speaker 3: And so for me, it's a much better product. It's

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Speaker 3: a more entertaining product. And because they've cut the time down,

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Speaker 3: it's a watchable product because it doesn't occupy your entire evening.

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Speaker 3: So kudos to baseball for making those changes. Really, theo

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Speaker 3: Epstein was the driving force behind it. Hats off to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, theo undoing what he admitted he did, because the

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01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 2: analytics he brought to the game is the reason we

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Speaker 2: had the game that we had up until last season.

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01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 2: So if anyone would know how to undo it, it

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Speaker 2: would be the guy that put it together, theo Epstein.

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Speaker 2: And he's done that now working for Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: All right, So these NBA playoffs here, Bucky, I just

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01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 2: want to get some quick predictions, especially you mentioned you

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01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 2: like Golden State in this series against the goal against

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01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 2: the Kings. I haven't gotten the definitive answer though on

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01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 2: where you stand on this Lakers Grizzlies series. Who do

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01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 2: you like in that series and why.

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Speaker 3: I still like Memphis in the series. But I put

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01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 3: an asterisk vibe because Lebron James and Anthony Davis can

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01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 3: go bancas at any time. Memphis is the better team.

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01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 3: They've been the better team throughout the season. But the

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01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 3: Lakers are beginning to come into their own and so

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01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 3: the X factor is Austin Reeves. If Austin Reeves can

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01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 3: be the third score behind Lebron and AD, the Lakers

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01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 3: have a chance to take to us. But for them

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01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 3: to take it, they have to go all seven.

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01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they also need DeAngelo Russell to hit

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01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 2: what was he won for nine in that play end game.

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01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 2: That's not gonna cut it. But we got all these

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, and of course next week when we come back,

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01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna have much more breaking down this year's NFL draft. Hey,

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01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 2: for all your sports news, you know where to be.

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