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Speaker 1: So how what's up my brother's life? Family? Does only
Speaker 1: really feel like conversation? You know what I mean? Is
Speaker 1: the fool like exactly? I appreciate it, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: What's going on? How you been? First off of what
Speaker 1: you've been on? Man, I've been good man. I just
Speaker 1: have been finishing the story. He got let's name my album? Um,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I did my situation with Ghazi.
Speaker 1: I want to have a little more freedom song. Vampire
Speaker 1: Empire best one of the best labels that you can
Speaker 1: be on. So yeah, I'm doing that, just finishing. I
Speaker 1: got like thirty days left. I'm clearing these samples and
Speaker 1: we're ready to go. What's the motivation at this point?
Speaker 1: I mean you know for your music. I think, um,
Speaker 1: there's something that you have like a cult following the fans,
Speaker 1: like people that really really really rock with you. But
Speaker 1: you put out a lot of quality of music. You
Speaker 1: don't have anything lyrically to prove you don't people know
Speaker 1: who you are. But what's the motivation at this point? Um,
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. Um to me, I got like
Speaker 1: new motivation. It's just you know, man, just kind of
Speaker 1: coming out the pandemic and ship. You know, people be
Speaker 1: begging you for music. Then I had a acction the
Speaker 1: earlier this year, so it just kind of puts you
Speaker 1: in perspective for me, like, you know, people to be
Speaker 1: begging when usually I just be like you know, I
Speaker 1: go write songs or whoever, I write it and go
Speaker 1: home and put something out every nine and then. But um,
Speaker 1: the urgency of it came from just people just you know,
Speaker 1: asking me to do it all the time. And it's
Speaker 1: just like I got you because I understand like it
Speaker 1: is a void, It is a space where people enjoy
Speaker 1: that type of rapt type of concepts. I'll be rapping
Speaker 1: about the ship and different flows and ship like that,
Speaker 1: mainly from like that mixtape era that that early two
Speaker 1: thousand team through like two fourteen when I I really
Speaker 1: feel like I made my life my mark, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I think people still just want
Speaker 1: that nostalgia. So I just here to give it to him.
Speaker 1: You started off with hook them, You still keep in
Speaker 1: contact with that, Yeah, Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's crazy because yeah, that's what I'm saying. Come on,
Speaker 1: you know when it did did some time. But um,
Speaker 1: you know me and Butchie still give me a pet,
Speaker 1: still be solid, you know what I mean. That's my guy.
Speaker 1: So other than that, man, we're all good. Everybody good.
Speaker 1: They're getting it together. So if somebody said, if somebody
Speaker 1: said the phrase, I feel like Saha is slept on,
Speaker 1: how would you respond to that? Or underrated? I mean
Speaker 1: I understand that. I can understand that because I feel
Speaker 1: as far as in like the marketplace, I didn't I
Speaker 1: haven't put out a lot of music. I've been like
Speaker 1: something like like my name itself a ghosts in so
Speaker 1: many words, So I think, Um, with me, it's just
Speaker 1: like now it's just feel like it's time for me
Speaker 1: to kind of just work on my stuff. I think
Speaker 1: I got caught up into the you know, writing Diamond
Speaker 1: Records and Ship like that that people probably don't even
Speaker 1: know I wrote. But I'll just be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: people want to hear my message. Like most of the
Speaker 1: guys I kind of work with da ain't from the
Speaker 1: trenches of like from Atlanta, the culture like I am
Speaker 1: so like I kind of feel like I'm the publicist
Speaker 1: for it, so I think that's what I'm here for.
Speaker 1: You think, um, how is it like keeping that um,
Speaker 1: keeping that ship in the background that you wrote so
Speaker 1: much something the big records and ship. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean it's tough because you want to kind of keep
Speaker 1: the the integrity of the relationship who you know, you
Speaker 1: want them to feel like they was a part of
Speaker 1: but they are a part of I'm not like I
Speaker 1: tell people like I ain't writing like when t write
Speaker 1: Little Bow Rap. It ain't like it was more so
Speaker 1: like also giving them a vide Yeah, like you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of time when you get that big, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have a you don't have niggas on the
Speaker 1: turf around you. You mainly have like fashion designers and
Speaker 1: artistic people. But for me and just be like no,
Speaker 1: you said like this, No, I would have said this
Speaker 1: and then all that ship did hard like so it
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, it's like that SI sparring kind of
Speaker 1: session and make sure the verses coming out to where
Speaker 1: it needs to be in in my opinion, quality control
Speaker 1: type that. Yeah, for sure. So when you were so
Speaker 1: when you were coming up, um, I know your parents
Speaker 1: were like very strict and very firm on the fact
Speaker 1: that they didn't really want you listening to hip hop
Speaker 1: and they didn't really want you involved. So do you
Speaker 1: think that's what kind of made you as into it
Speaker 1: now as it was because you were kind of taken
Speaker 1: away from it when you were younger. Man, That's that's deep.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think of it like that, but I
Speaker 1: think that probably had a lot to do with it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just kind of got
Speaker 1: that was deep. Like I didn't even you know, like
Speaker 1: I can't do it now I could do it. I
Speaker 1: just you know how they say like some girls like
Speaker 1: their parents don't let them have company or go to
Speaker 1: sleepovers and stuff, and then they turned out to be
Speaker 1: horrors when they're older. Like absolutely, yeah. Yeah, Well I
Speaker 1: was an athlete growing up, so it was just like
Speaker 1: they were just trying to keep me on straight and narrow,
Speaker 1: but you know, once the streets got involved, it just
Speaker 1: went downhill. But nah, for sure, it's it is like
Speaker 1: that though, it is like that. I think that's what
Speaker 1: I got anitsie rush for it because I just started
Speaker 1: listening to it on my own, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: might have been like, yeah, I might have been like
Speaker 1: thirteen when I first like fourteen, I got my own
Speaker 1: c D. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like my Potters sisters and brothers
Speaker 1: and all them with just listening to out Care you
Speaker 1: know you GK and ship like that go on my
Speaker 1: closet and just yeah. But it made me like search
Speaker 1: for it though, so I started stumbling upon like East Coast,
Speaker 1: all this West coast that was do yes. So that's
Speaker 1: why my style of LOOKD you know, universal, because I
Speaker 1: listened to a lot of different music versus people who
Speaker 1: could just hear what they want to hear. They're just
Speaker 1: gonna listen to Partos in the area mont because that's
Speaker 1: what people listening to Versus me. I'm like, okay, what
Speaker 1: else I can get my hands on. I just come
Speaker 1: across some nabs, some big al ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Something then it would be like, Okay, that's hard.
Speaker 1: What happened with the um situation with your club? Got
Speaker 1: shut up with some ship? Man? You know that ship
Speaker 1: was deep. I never like really you ain't got no
Speaker 1: clothes on it, Like I ain't really like go looking
Speaker 1: forward either, But she was deep. I ain't. You know.
Speaker 1: When I experienced I'm like, damn, I actually thought like
Speaker 1: who the fund did I pay their money back to?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go back tifteen years like some ship like,
Speaker 1: but all in the in the moment, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: like man with these niggas. And then I just started
Speaker 1: working my move. I was just, man, I was doing
Speaker 1: all type of maneuvers that I ain't never done before.
Speaker 1: Have you ever said what it was like what happened
Speaker 1: on or you know what I mean? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: I spoke on them briefly because you know, um, you know,
Speaker 1: people asked me when I had a few interviews, but
Speaker 1: I ain't really liked dive into it too much. I
Speaker 1: just kind of like gave them my outline what happened.
Speaker 1: But to me, it was just it's the it's just
Speaker 1: what Atlanta turning into in my opinion. You I think
Speaker 1: I might have just got calling it because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in the bent league. I got jury on. So
Speaker 1: I just look fit the part, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And you know I the police don't really have no
Speaker 1: information for you. They I went into the police, they
Speaker 1: didn't look like me. I mean, they just trapped down,
Speaker 1: you know what. I like, Really, nil, man, this look
Speaker 1: like a whole play. Ye don't look like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all look like y'all about to go out with me tonight.
Speaker 1: So I would like it was it was cool. I
Speaker 1: wasn't really gonna bring it up, but it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had the scene. It's like so many people knew
Speaker 1: my name, like the paramedics and the police office. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna get out, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm cool. I survived, had some stitches and
Speaker 1: ship and you know what I'm saying. I reached around,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it was quiet on it. So
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I ain't no point
Speaker 1: even pushing it, just kind of chopping up, moving certain
Speaker 1: kind of way. Yeah, absolutely, because you know, even if
Speaker 1: it was a mistake or it wasn't, it's like it
Speaker 1: could have been bad for me. So I just you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just start moving the same kind
Speaker 1: of way you moving, just to take pau. I mean,
Speaker 1: I gotta I had two forms. I mean, I still
Speaker 1: got a form, but it's like I kind of like
Speaker 1: dumped it down a little bit when I'm in the city,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, just down down, just not going
Speaker 1: out as much, you know what I mean, places I
Speaker 1: feel like I ain't I'm know, I'm saying I should
Speaker 1: be a go anywhere I want to go, But you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, she just just like redundant to me,
Speaker 1: I'd have done it. I don't have done the flame.
Speaker 1: So many times it's like maybe I shouldn't have been
Speaker 1: going to the Yeah, maybe going to the Flames and
Speaker 1: they see teams, damn damn there. So let me kind
Speaker 1: of put a swivel in my routine. Yeah. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: let me go to a restaurant, let me go to something. Player.
Speaker 1: I'm a little older. I need to be you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But it's all good man, we're here, sure, Kanye, Like,
Speaker 1: what what kind of space we're good? Man? Man? You
Speaker 1: ain't good. We're in a great space. I was on
Speaker 1: I was out there in Miami with him when he
Speaker 1: was doing Donna two project. You know, Bro jester Man,
Speaker 1: then he's just a pioneer man. He probably owned something
Speaker 1: some big and better that we ain't even heard of yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, brod be having so many meetings
Speaker 1: with billionaires and it's just like I'll just be soaking
Speaker 1: up bro, soaking up the game. But now that's my guy.
Speaker 1: We hear him on the story of Egot when we
Speaker 1: feel his presence in anyway. Absolutely, that's only did like
Speaker 1: six six tracks. Yeah, he did like six of them. Um,
Speaker 1: he on on two of them. So yeah, it's definitely
Speaker 1: on the project, you know what I mean. So, like
Speaker 1: I said, this is all the family push on there.
Speaker 1: We got um, we got Russ on it. I got
Speaker 1: pink sweats to change Jack Hallow. We this is this
Speaker 1: is big bang, big bank, you know what Me and
Speaker 1: Big Bait record like, we went out to the label
Speaker 1: that's like, so what are we doing with slide? Are
Speaker 1: we gonna be like, Yes, we're about to shoot the videop.
Speaker 1: We just got back from b T kind of vibe.
Speaker 1: But they ready on that too. So that's been getting
Speaker 1: a lot of great traction. The city been playing it
Speaker 1: radio been, you know, asking for so ship. We're about
Speaker 1: to blast on that as well. I know why, But
Speaker 1: why did you choose Bank? I didn't know why because
Speaker 1: we talked before. I mean, to me, it's like Bank
Speaker 1: is like the voice of Atlanta in my opinion, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, not you know, I mean saying
Speaker 1: just in ramp. I'm just saying, like, damn for real
Speaker 1: for you, like that nucleus of each side, like the
Speaker 1: mediator that could be the media if there was one.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, ain't you ain't ain't that.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying it's like, you know, mostly most
Speaker 1: people just you know, like even with Jade, it's like
Speaker 1: the streets love Jade. It's just Atlanta just loved Jane
Speaker 1: for some reason. I don't I mean everywhere, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, she could walk through any dough going,
Speaker 1: any trout, any studio anything. So I mean, and I am.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite records back in the day was
Speaker 1: baby Girl, What this trip back? You know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you knew big that was, but that was
Speaker 1: Big bro Man Black Maid him stop eating noodles, man,
Speaker 1: get what he called? I would really want to be
Speaker 1: like but you know, he was like, but I got
Speaker 1: it already. You gotta do them to pull up. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna exactly what you don't know, as he called me first,
Speaker 1: like hey man, for the man with y'all, I tested
Speaker 1: the war, I did up being hard hard yeah. And
Speaker 1: I remember like growing up like Duct Tape was one
Speaker 1: of like first record labels in Atlanta that I knew
Speaker 1: come from the East Side. They had artists, you know, niggers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You had like like like
Speaker 1: he really had artists. I was like, oh, ship that's
Speaker 1: coming from out east or yeah, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I I mean. We used to
Speaker 1: see him at prime time, pull up this ship real
Speaker 1: so no for real respect though, was next for you
Speaker 1: to after man? When I'm getting into his film. I've
Speaker 1: been writing a lot of scripts lately. Um, That's something
Speaker 1: I've really been like taking my time, and I kind
Speaker 1: of thinking two thousands, you know, when everybody's pandemic and
Speaker 1: ship in quarantine and I kind of just try to
Speaker 1: dive into another venture and something that I love to do.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm close to it. Um, A lot
Speaker 1: of people that's in film, so I just you know me,
Speaker 1: I just was like, you know what, let me go
Speaker 1: and get my scripts together, let me get my ship together.
Speaker 1: But I want to do you know, I'm looking to
Speaker 1: do some executive work as well, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: in the future, but right now, I just felt like
Speaker 1: it's time for me to just download my hard drive
Speaker 1: into the world, you know what I mean. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm doing right now. It's just like, okay, hey, I go.
Speaker 1: I got records with people, and you know, I've done
Speaker 1: things that I used to doing for myself or doing
Speaker 1: for other artists, and they'd be like pinning, they might
Speaker 1: use my like na, let me get that man, I'm
Speaker 1: about to use So I'm doing that right now. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of just leave my mark
Speaker 1: on the world and hip hop since like even like
Speaker 1: my my l A Leakers freestyle, like you know, I
Speaker 1: just went out then gave them fold the bird. The
Speaker 1: folks like that. It's the cold of ship. I'm back then,
Speaker 1: how about it? How about it? I'm back, So you
Speaker 1: know what I mean that one I'm doing. Bro, If
Speaker 1: you once said that he would never what was the quote,
Speaker 1: I would never want to be in asightfule with something
Speaker 1: like basically Bar for bar the guy right, who's someone
Speaker 1: you feel like that about? I mean, I don't really
Speaker 1: if anybody, if anybody, I mean you mean, I ain't
Speaker 1: say I wouldn't want to be in a bottle when
Speaker 1: it'd be like it'll be a good ballet. Yeah, who's
Speaker 1: somebody that you behold there? The way that they wrap
Speaker 1: and their lyrics like currently or like let's do both
Speaker 1: currently in all time? I would say, like currently it
Speaker 1: w be like shit like being in the Butcher like
Speaker 1: like yeah, hold Grizel the Cold like I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of them to me, It's like I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, Chance is a great rapper, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like if you just talk about just like
Speaker 1: being put some words together, um, you know Jake Cole's
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But if you put us on
Speaker 1: the stage with with no beat, can't nobody fun with me?
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted you to say, Like, if you
Speaker 1: don't add your like your beats and your promo team
Speaker 1: your market if okay, you might do, you might out do.
Speaker 1: But if you just put us on the stage like
Speaker 1: old school from bar Let's wrap no beat with the audience,
Speaker 1: nobody planted earth can fun with me that because they can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can't perform with me. Like, in my opinion, the
Speaker 1: way I'm gonna delivered, it's just gonna be like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not being he's being confidently. What is he being? Right,
Speaker 1: He's not, he's not He's not I'm not being I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you there's nobody definite because we've been trying
Speaker 1: to weigh out cocky, arrogant, and confident. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we all got that. Yeah, that mean streak that
Speaker 1: you got to be there dude though, but people there
Speaker 1: are people that know that you're a better at rap
Speaker 1: than them. Yeah, but they're probably never said because I
Speaker 1: mean these dudes who still think that he just said
Speaker 1: nobody though, Yeah, he just said nobody. So that's confident,
Speaker 1: that's arrogant, that's cocky, that's coming. That's all that. So
Speaker 1: it's definite. It's a melting pot of all three. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what so what you feel like, how would you
Speaker 1: be able to prove that? I mean, how would you
Speaker 1: be able to validate it? I mean I mean because
Speaker 1: ain't nobody ever asked me to try me and that
Speaker 1: and also until somebody decides to try this ship yeah,
Speaker 1: you could try this ship. Yeah you go. You're saying
Speaker 1: the same ship though you got niggas someone saying the
Speaker 1: same ship. What he's saying, Yeah, I feel like about Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what did you get into if you were battle like?
Speaker 1: I mean, we used to have it back in the day.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if you'll remember, like the
Speaker 1: Smack DVD. I'm saying, so I used to battle niggas
Speaker 1: back in the day. And they used to be like,
Speaker 1: They'll tell them I'm from the Battle be Life A
Speaker 1: five bands and they'd be like, okay, brother from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: And then Nigga called back and be like, put it
Speaker 1: making fifteen because they automatically think it would be having
Speaker 1: a fight to get out it up. Bro, need me like, man,
Speaker 1: let me see it. I d ask me for my
Speaker 1: I d bro, Man, come on with the check. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? All that ship your lost brother.
Speaker 1: So this is before the internet, like you if you
Speaker 1: got to see before the anywhere I used to be
Speaker 1: running around with like jacket Edge and shipped back in
Speaker 1: the day and even nooning and them, no, they know
Speaker 1: the ship. Motherfucker's no bro for show? Did he? All
Speaker 1: of them they know they remember like that was that
Speaker 1: came in here and to show we're not get big. Well,
Speaker 1: you ain't got a chance to work with it. You
Speaker 1: want to work with Damn, I ain't got a chance
Speaker 1: to work. But I want to work with I mean
Speaker 1: I mean like myself personally or because I worked with something.
Speaker 1: A lot of people that I would like to worry with,
Speaker 1: but it didn't want for my for myself, but I
Speaker 1: want to work the future, like, to be honest, that's
Speaker 1: somebody want to I mean, you know we'll be in
Speaker 1: there with you and ship, but I'm talking about like
Speaker 1: my personal future for sure. I love the future. Yes,
Speaker 1: got to happen existence, Yeah, then kick down. I work
Speaker 1: with Kendrick, but won't light together. It was like somebody
Speaker 1: sent me something and I kind of jumped on it.
Speaker 1: But I love the word with Kendrick, Um, Joey Badass.
Speaker 1: Somebody want to work with. Like I said, a lot
Speaker 1: of them are already kind of I wanna do something
Speaker 1: with Um. I'm gonna do my own song with kid cutting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So just be like dudes.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be, like, get my own ship with.
Speaker 1: I just haven't got a chance to a South Rocket
Speaker 1: I got. I got something with a South too that
Speaker 1: I want to do. So them like my peers that
Speaker 1: I like to work with. Oh one last it's between
Speaker 1: that's both on Kodak and Little Baby. Both of them
Speaker 1: like my favorite, you know what I mean, My favorite
Speaker 1: new rappers like my favorite too, So I just gotta listen.
Speaker 1: I'm you know, Sam would definitely get around too. So
Speaker 1: but I'm open to work with a lot of people though,
Speaker 1: Sure what artist you see yourself in? Like, okay, that's
Speaker 1: how I would do it. To me, it's like Koldag
Speaker 1: and a a Little Baby, they're the ones I can see,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody else that impresses me every time you rap.
Speaker 1: He just impressed me. I could just feel the east
Speaker 1: side and it's like, yeah, you know, because you're gonna articulated, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: slick intelligent though that one just like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why I like. So he give
Speaker 1: me that east side vibe, So help me understand. And
Speaker 1: if it's just all bush, well, okay, you're accused of
Speaker 1: giving some bars to button on a freestyle, right, so
Speaker 1: if there a thing there, like because I think he
Speaker 1: made a comment or some ship, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know much about it. This is just what came to
Speaker 1: me there like that, how about that butter ship like
Speaker 1: one thing about Joe, But I just be He'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: you can't out wrap me. It's a land slide. Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're telling people I can't out wrap a forty five
Speaker 1: your old podcasting. Damn that ain't good. Brow at least
Speaker 1: be like here, you know, here'll give me. You know,
Speaker 1: he'll be a good competition, but I think I win it.
Speaker 1: He'd be on he said that first out of nowhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, you know, I'll be doing freestyle his
Speaker 1: little buddies hype up. I'm like, bro, you know his
Speaker 1: little buddies, I mean a little buddies hyping them up.
Speaker 1: And then he just got the talking answer. God watch
Speaker 1: that nigs meet me on the stage. Well, so it
Speaker 1: could be be clear if the right people came in
Speaker 1: the right bad you'll do it. Man, I would have
Speaker 1: a podcast. Wow, damn that it looks so bad they
Speaker 1: have to hand over the podcast to me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll be having my own podcast, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because I just feel like, brother, just you know, you'd
Speaker 1: be like walking home. You'd be trying to keep your
Speaker 1: little coke. And he could just be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: you're poking at you on the way home, like you're like, bro,
Speaker 1: let me let me put a book bad down, bro,
Speaker 1: don't make me bro. So we got one party committed
Speaker 1: to some in the in the thought of that, that's
Speaker 1: how he be. You know, he like he like compliments you,
Speaker 1: but then like backhand compliment like man, but he's still
Speaker 1: oh that we dick Ryan k all that cap asship.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, man, you know what, you just really
Speaker 1: wish you was just dope as me, But he really
Speaker 1: like love me and and think I'm the dopest maka
Speaker 1: you know heard. So it's like he has this thing.
Speaker 1: I'll just be poking at him like with bro, let's wrap.
Speaker 1: I want to see that. Yeah, let's ripe. So that
Speaker 1: how I didn't be with it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So yeah, what you just told you what I mean?
Speaker 1: He just that what I'm saying, He's just be coming
Speaker 1: at me like you know, he'd be like, man, he
Speaker 1: could wrap but one occasion, no about six them, he
Speaker 1: saying clarity, you did give him some bars to the
Speaker 1: free stuff, which one the one I just put out
Speaker 1: I thought they said it was I don't know the
Speaker 1: little sway ship idea, but you know that the vocals
Speaker 1: got messed up on so I ain't. I ain't. You
Speaker 1: know he heard it, but I ain't trip it wasnot
Speaker 1: It wasn't even. I just said, I get aggravated with Salt.
Speaker 1: Make me funking around and catch an aggravated to salt,
Speaker 1: Joe buttons, why you got so much hate in your heart?
Speaker 1: They don't let you working around and make hating the art.
Speaker 1: That's all I said. That was like a nice like, bro,
Speaker 1: why you keep bothering me? But I don't even know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I never met ever nothing, no ship, never meant nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah we met, but I'm just saying I don't know
Speaker 1: you as well as you boy and all that. You know,
Speaker 1: every time you do something here like blame me like
Speaker 1: man here heron never guess me and like ya y'all
Speaker 1: that ship man, you know what I mean. So it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: why you keep bringing my name? If you got something
Speaker 1: bad to say? If I just talk to talk about home,
Speaker 1: don't bring me into every time you want to talk
Speaker 1: about homes. It's like so I just felt like he
Speaker 1: was just jigging at me and it's like, but it's
Speaker 1: all good. He you know, it's it's all funny games.
Speaker 1: But I just be thinking he'd be acting like he
Speaker 1: can out wrap me and he can't. I want to
Speaker 1: see that was safe. He still I'm still wrapped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody will rapped for the right. Yeah. Nothing recently thol
Speaker 1: right na, But he is known as a good I
Speaker 1: would say that he is a good rapper though, like
Speaker 1: when he was in his time, like for what he did.
Speaker 1: I definitely bought Joe Bundon's albums, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I bought he sump it up right, Yeah, I used
Speaker 1: to fun will pump it up yea. And he was
Speaker 1: in the group slaughter House. You know. They was like
Speaker 1: the first Grizelda in my opinion, Like it was like
Speaker 1: that that lyrical group. But you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I ain't running from them. So we
Speaker 1: just if you want to do it, let's do it
Speaker 1: and just have something positive to say. Bro, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's clarity on that. It's just clarity
Speaker 1: on that. How long have you been working on this
Speaker 1: story of the ego album? He got? He Got? So
Speaker 1: he got as an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar Tony. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to win all the motherfucker's so, um, I've been working
Speaker 1: on you about two two and a a yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: just gav yeah. So it's like an acrony. And this
Speaker 1: guy named Philip Michael Thomas came up when he was
Speaker 1: the dude from Miami Vice and that was one of
Speaker 1: his goals. He was like a musician, but he was
Speaker 1: really like a yeah yeah. So it's like he like
Speaker 1: a nigga who wanted to win them all but wants
Speaker 1: the show got canceled. He never got his foot in.
Speaker 1: But you know, most entertainer still respect like the the
Speaker 1: journey of that. So Jennifer Huston just won the guys,
Speaker 1: she got all four of them, but people like John
Speaker 1: Legend got it WHOOPI Goldberg. But then you know you
Speaker 1: got get niggas like yeah, but you got niggas like
Speaker 1: Common that got like three of them. Child Gambino got
Speaker 1: like two or three. So it's like it's like a
Speaker 1: race to it for like, you know, entertainers. And it's
Speaker 1: like correct me if I'm wrong, but a Tony is
Speaker 1: a theatrical award, right, yeah, for like Broadway or something like,
Speaker 1: but me, I just always felt like I was, you know,
Speaker 1: super talented growing. I was in the talent shows, rapping, singing,
Speaker 1: and he's singing the choir all type of ship. So
Speaker 1: it's like I just kind of wanted to really show
Speaker 1: my diversity on my album and didn't give you the
Speaker 1: story of And the story is really like the Atlanta Plight,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Me coming up, you know what I mean, getting kicked
Speaker 1: out of school. They tell me you got go to Hambleton's.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not going to Hamilton's. I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to Hamilton. I was like, okay, send me to Open Campa.
Speaker 1: Like going to Open campl I'm not going. You know,
Speaker 1: you just heard stories about him, like I already know
Speaker 1: the first day I'm in there and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: the hooking with somebody. It was just that was the theory.
Speaker 1: So after that, just you know, moving throughout Atlanta doing
Speaker 1: what a're doing, just kind of like giving the story
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't know my story. Like
Speaker 1: I've been signed by l a A A very twice. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, you know what I used
Speaker 1: to work, work with a cons and booing them. Then
Speaker 1: you know, ye met me and it's like, yo, you
Speaker 1: should help me come do this. So it's just like
Speaker 1: giving that journey of you know what I'm saying, where
Speaker 1: I really came from throughout music. You feel like it's
Speaker 1: hard after you being like a writer or producing the
Speaker 1: background to be an actual artist. Um, it can be.
Speaker 1: It can be, especially on my level because I think
Speaker 1: that a lot of people just want me to do that.
Speaker 1: Like they were like, we gotta find a whole new
Speaker 1: nigga to coming here, and like in the job of
Speaker 1: the room, if this nign't go somewhere, So it's like
Speaker 1: that you could you could peep there be like you
Speaker 1: know what, tell us how to car here? But I
Speaker 1: think it ain't too because it's like, you know, when
Speaker 1: I do put out something to get such a great reaction,
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, if I just build on it, I
Speaker 1: already know where it could ultimately become, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's just me just taking the time
Speaker 1: out of my other career to be like kind of
Speaker 1: be selfish about it because they're gonna cut you a
Speaker 1: nice check where you're gonna think about like you know what, Mamber,
Speaker 1: It's just out here for three months, and like, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So me just got the music
Speaker 1: kind of like I always love music, but it just
Speaker 1: got me out of the streets. I never wanted to
Speaker 1: be a street name, so I think that was the
Speaker 1: best things. So when I got my first industry check,
Speaker 1: I just like, yeah, y'all got it. I'm out, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think I kind of
Speaker 1: became like I used to just being able to take
Speaker 1: care of myself my family through music anyway. But now
Speaker 1: I think it's I'm to the point where it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, let me go on and give me
Speaker 1: get my full effort to my career, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to see where it takes me. So that's
Speaker 1: what I'm doing now. So when you when you made
Speaker 1: that decision, be like that, now all right, I'm just
Speaker 1: about to do this news ship. How many friends did
Speaker 1: you lose? All up? They didn't want me to lead
Speaker 1: because it just like, you know, I was really focused
Speaker 1: on the music ship, and he was like Folte one
Speaker 1: ft and one ft out kind of vibe. And then
Speaker 1: you know, just being around it, you automatically just gonna
Speaker 1: be in the you know what I mean, in the
Speaker 1: mix for me, I just was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: the folks just cut me a good check, Like my
Speaker 1: mind would go and do this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know I had to move to l A and
Speaker 1: different things I worked with. People I was working with
Speaker 1: was like in the l A and Ship. So a
Speaker 1: lot of times you can't bring all everybody with you
Speaker 1: to l A, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 1: know in my main guys like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'm parting the MIC and ship. They still we're
Speaker 1: still rocking. But other than that, was just like my
Speaker 1: my neighborhood partners. Man, we used to walk in sessions. Man,
Speaker 1: be so deep they used back then. It was like
Speaker 1: we had this like sugar Knight Night kind of stigma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we had we was onto some old g's that
Speaker 1: was just like super tough, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was just like everybody be like and we can't
Speaker 1: any work with you. Like they hit me on the
Speaker 1: side like who came into world? Which because you kind
Speaker 1: of and I'm like, man, who like you know these
Speaker 1: things on my round. But it's like I was so
Speaker 1: young growing up, I started seeing like, Okay, they need
Speaker 1: for real. These ain't just like my other street buddies
Speaker 1: like I had my street buddies, but the dude that
Speaker 1: were under it was just making the labels and ship nervous.
Speaker 1: So it was just like, okay, let me see if
Speaker 1: I can go and represent myself kind of vibe. And
Speaker 1: then that's kind of what a transition kind of came
Speaker 1: for me. Was just like I'm just gonna full fledged music.
Speaker 1: So that's why it was that with me, you spoke
Speaker 1: earlier about what you feel Atlanta has become what some
Speaker 1: of the ship you miss about the old Atlanta before,
Speaker 1: that's what has become. Man. When it was a secret,
Speaker 1: it was just like, man, it was it was like
Speaker 1: buff was just it wasn't the influx to Atlanta like,
Speaker 1: but then I think it was like two thousand ten
Speaker 1: became a point where it was like, man, you know
Speaker 1: that in Atlanta, bro, it was like that was the
Speaker 1: atta like the Montaucker's you don't get a crimp. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh man, quick telling them that. And now it's like
Speaker 1: Atlanta is just like a melting pot. Now that's what
Speaker 1: me and my buddy Jamir was talking about. Just had
Speaker 1: some melting pot of so many different people. So it's
Speaker 1: like the lines can be jaded, communication could be all
Speaker 1: certain things could be fixed if it's stayed amongst family.
Speaker 1: But now you got people from the outside here that's
Speaker 1: in the mix of what's going on as well, So
Speaker 1: it just it makes it like, you know, and then
Speaker 1: the pandemic kind of threw everything off as well, so
Speaker 1: it's just like people like, oh, they still opening the lima,
Speaker 1: so it's like, Okay, we're gonna go down there and
Speaker 1: you know, do work out moves. So I think that
Speaker 1: that was just the you know, the lines have been
Speaker 1: they cut off and you know, redirected due to like
Speaker 1: so many people coming to Atlanta. So I just think
Speaker 1: that's really what it is. But you know, it's still
Speaker 1: the old vibe is still here, Like the old Atlanta
Speaker 1: vibe is still here. Is just most people from Atlanta
Speaker 1: be off now it's like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: they'd be out the way and just let you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, let the newcomers kind of like how
Speaker 1: they the strip club and yeah, whatever they do. But
Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest thing, just like it
Speaker 1: used to be more of a family, more of a
Speaker 1: uh if you know, you know kind of vibe versus
Speaker 1: like nas like then you know music then you know
Speaker 1: when it's crazy just then want to come out and
Speaker 1: get a record, deals like bros, like everybody on the
Speaker 1: strip clubs. It's just entrepreneurship just in general. You people
Speaker 1: feel like that could open the business. It's people you know,
Speaker 1: you know, politicking and you know, doing companies together. So
Speaker 1: it's so much that draws a person here that now
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, you meet new people when
Speaker 1: you used to just meet the people you knew, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Then I was a bar. Y'all
Speaker 1: can go on in that some of your favorite spots
Speaker 1: outside of UM as far as one of state state countries. Man,
Speaker 1: and I would encourage y'all to go to Wyoming, Like
Speaker 1: you got to break that down for like I mean,
Speaker 1: I try to encourage people like I lived in Wyoming
Speaker 1: for two years. That that's what he was, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it was like it was a
Speaker 1: good two years. But what's the capital of wine. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to trying to think, well, damn, there's two
Speaker 1: of them. I'm couldn't look it up. Hold on, you
Speaker 1: said that's one place I've never been, saying, like I
Speaker 1: encourage people go if you ain't never being because it's
Speaker 1: like a cool like it's like it's like being outside
Speaker 1: and don't hear no, cause you don't hear like it's
Speaker 1: like twise like nature. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They got the spot called I'm a Ghani. It's a hotel.
Speaker 1: It's like the best hotel. You never go there. I'm
Speaker 1: a gami. Yeah, I'm a Ghani. I'm a gami something
Speaker 1: like that. It's one of them. But if you look
Speaker 1: at it, they they treat you like a keen the
Speaker 1: whole time. You know, the food is busting, you get
Speaker 1: to go skiing, you know, horsebackground. But it's just it's
Speaker 1: like a little community and they treat you like a whole.
Speaker 1: Player though. But Wyoming is definitely a place any not
Speaker 1: a lot of black people, but it's gonna be player though.
Speaker 1: You're gonna like it though. You gotta go with the
Speaker 1: white Yeah. Yeah, that is no hood. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: hood and no ship. You know, you're just speaking America,
Speaker 1: you know, That's what I'm saying. Hotel. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: out the country, you know, it's a lot of beautiful
Speaker 1: places but um to me, like in the country that
Speaker 1: song where I tell people you might even go to Utah,
Speaker 1: got some dope, some dope scene and read some dope spots. Um,
Speaker 1: because I know all y'll probably have been to like
Speaker 1: Texas and you know, you know New York's never been
Speaker 1: in Utah or yeah, go to both or I've never been.
Speaker 1: What about relationship? Relationship? Like, um, I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: got no relationship. Damn. I mean, I'll be thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I just can't. What's the hesitation? Man? You know it?
Speaker 1: Just be with me and just be like, Man, it
Speaker 1: would be like the Insu Board Nation, you know how
Speaker 1: nigga just go out here and just be like it's
Speaker 1: almost like, you know what in all types of bullshit
Speaker 1: to get this money, dude, resources you dealing with a
Speaker 1: chick that just ain't grateful, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It would be like, so I just be like, I
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of you know, home girls, and
Speaker 1: you know, I got a few of those, and you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of just but eventually I'm gonna share to one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up like you know what, come on,
Speaker 1: they're going on and go with it. But that's sounding
Speaker 1: like you're selling them. That doesn't sound like this you
Speaker 1: I mean, don't come on, they go. I mean, because
Speaker 1: it's come on. It's almost like a lot of times
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that's what I feel like
Speaker 1: we do. But it's like sometimes you you just get
Speaker 1: with somebody that you feel like, no, you will even
Speaker 1: though they ain't the best person for you, and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: y'all know each other well, you know her bullshit, you
Speaker 1: know your bullshit, Just like, all right, I feel like
Speaker 1: we can deal with each other versus you mean, a
Speaker 1: new motherfucker that ain't been down with you, she did
Speaker 1: some bullshit to you. It's like, man, I know I
Speaker 1: should have you know what I mean? So I think
Speaker 1: I'm at that level of do I just go and
Speaker 1: do I got to move forward with one of my
Speaker 1: new pieces or do I Just like you don't think
Speaker 1: it's no value, and for some people, just for some people,
Speaker 1: you don't think it's no value. And sometimes a woman
Speaker 1: can help enhance your situation. I mean, for me personally,
Speaker 1: my wife did. But everybody's different. But there's no value
Speaker 1: in that. I mean, But I think I think maybe
Speaker 1: for you it was like I ain't been in I've
Speaker 1: been like a globe try to my whole life, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm in Switzerland, I'm in parents.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like I got I gotta some
Speaker 1: much ship everywhere. Brother to be all the way honest
Speaker 1: with you. But I think I think, like for the
Speaker 1: last three years have been my first time I've been
Speaker 1: able to like just be in Atlanta for like a
Speaker 1: long period of time versus like, you know, doing my things.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, soon or later, it's gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna come around. But I'm just stuck in between.
Speaker 1: Like man, you know, I got new pieces that I like,
Speaker 1: but then I got like a home girl who've been
Speaker 1: just rocket with me for you know, you're through the struggle.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I'm gonna make a decision
Speaker 1: one of these days. I feel like one of them
Speaker 1: gonna present theirselfs in that way that's gonna be like,
Speaker 1: you know what I got you with you on some
Speaker 1: open ship. You tell all of them what it is.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, I ain't let me keep the boat,
Speaker 1: which I ain't had a girlfriends And I was twenty
Speaker 1: one h and she was like fifteen years ago. M hm.
Speaker 1: I just ain't never. I would just never let me
Speaker 1: tell something. Growing up around some rich nigga is right,
Speaker 1: a nigga, bump your bitch. I'm just gonna keep it.
Speaker 1: So I learned early, like, you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: have a girlfriend. You know, I like you, you can
Speaker 1: whatever you feel like you want to do. But me
Speaker 1: growing up around you know, rich niggas is being young.
Speaker 1: Your girl would be in the other room. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's all in the game. So it's just like me,
Speaker 1: I just never wanted to take that leak. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't you know what I mean. After when I was
Speaker 1: young and took the lick, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm cool, let me go on to focus on And
Speaker 1: then I felt like it's more peaceful when I just
Speaker 1: be a buck with him. So facts, you know what
Speaker 1: I want to go for friendship to marriage. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go into like I don't like to the
Speaker 1: bolfriend and girlfriend stage, like it'd be too much deceitful
Speaker 1: ship going on in that stage. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I know all the girls, I know all the ballplayers.
Speaker 1: My girls then hit all the rappers. We have great
Speaker 1: conversations about it. I'll be like, well, why are your funk?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't took me me the first? I don't want to
Speaker 1: go on like we've been having a new type of conversation,
Speaker 1: so you know, but I think now it's like I'm
Speaker 1: I have been, you know, looking towards that I haven't
Speaker 1: scared and back so you know, hopefully it comes song.
Speaker 1: M hmm. What's the ship on your two accomplished list
Speaker 1: now that you obviously with the album kind of says
Speaker 1: some of those goals. What's some ship on your accomplished list? Now? Man,
Speaker 1: I want to run a record label. I never want
Speaker 1: to an r CEO something. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I did it, like you know
Speaker 1: a lot of times I had this stand with record labels.
Speaker 1: So being from Atlanta, my recorlator, like, man, you know,
Speaker 1: why don't you go like get your ship popping in
Speaker 1: the street like all the other Like you know, you
Speaker 1: know what, most of these major labels are lacking and missing,
Speaker 1: and your record label would be the complete in total
Speaker 1: opposite to give an artist exactly what they need, Like
Speaker 1: I can get you popping with no money, you can
Speaker 1: undersay versus most time don't want to sing you back,
Speaker 1: you get your check up, you do what you gotta do,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, but that's like I'm mean, during
Speaker 1: that process is a lot of niggas who don't make
Speaker 1: it through that gauntlet, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: we we people look at the landa like, man, y'all
Speaker 1: got so many rapping Like man, that's them niggas. It's
Speaker 1: special little babies. And all the niggas is like special
Speaker 1: because I know fifty little babies that didn't make it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like for real, and they'd
Speaker 1: be like, yo, get your street. But so you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta go back to your neighborhood. And the only
Speaker 1: thing in your neighborhood that really gotta chick to put
Speaker 1: behind your ship is a real nigga. So it's like
Speaker 1: now you're doing being with him. Now y'all called into
Speaker 1: something and you're really just trying to do music. But
Speaker 1: it's like you just get caught in the in the
Speaker 1: mix of trying to jump some ship off and they
Speaker 1: really tell you it's possible if you're coming here with
Speaker 1: your own ship. So it makes you want to get
Speaker 1: it even mold. So you you step on something you
Speaker 1: to kind of get to that spot and music versus me,
Speaker 1: I can take you through that. Oh here, maybe a
Speaker 1: little longer. Like most of the artists I work where
Speaker 1: I tell a man, I'm gonna bring your town. Some
Speaker 1: of these studios play with some of your records. Some
Speaker 1: of these artists might want you to help them with
Speaker 1: their records. To me, that was my version of my trap. Well,
Speaker 1: I got to the point of making another money where
Speaker 1: I can invest in myself from what I did for
Speaker 1: other people, you know what I mean. So it's a
Speaker 1: it's a different way of looking at it, but still
Speaker 1: it might be a little longer, but it's still a
Speaker 1: way where you could be able a core fan base.
Speaker 1: You can still tour, you can still do this ship
Speaker 1: to you seven years old, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If you really hone in on the craft and really
Speaker 1: figure out your torn situation and your marketing situation, get
Speaker 1: you a good solid management crew, and you can you know,
Speaker 1: get you some dope you know, photographers and a videographer.
Speaker 1: You cook it up and the minimal the minimalistic shit
Speaker 1: about it is what's gonna make people gravitate to it
Speaker 1: as well. So it's just a different way of doing it,
Speaker 1: But I would love to like be able to show
Speaker 1: the value of you know, that that side of just
Speaker 1: schemeing your way through versus like, you know, let's get
Speaker 1: out of play ship. So you know, just that's why
Speaker 1: I want to just bring back to labels and I
Speaker 1: think that could you know, balance out what type of
Speaker 1: music we're making and the lifestyle that most of these
Speaker 1: guys gotta live to really really put on and really
Speaker 1: put themselves out there that we're not getting big. If
Speaker 1: you ain't never getting a rap, what you think you
Speaker 1: you would end up doing now. I was supposed to
Speaker 1: be in the NFL growing up, tail man, play, tailback
Speaker 1: and slide yeah, all counting nine grade track and football.
Speaker 1: But then you know, I started sneaking out the Diddy
Speaker 1: concerts and they're like, oh, you know, my partner used
Speaker 1: to know Puffy and them, so I used to be
Speaker 1: with v you know, ving them, so I used to
Speaker 1: be like, oh man, we used some youngiggers running out
Speaker 1: and I just lost folks. I just started seeing music
Speaker 1: as the way and then people were telling me that
Speaker 1: that I was, you know, super dope, but I think
Speaker 1: some kind of sports or if I wasn't doing this,
Speaker 1: i'd be you know, man, some kind of hustling. You know,
Speaker 1: my partners is hustling. So we've been doing some truck
Speaker 1: in some kind of real estate. My buddy got my
Speaker 1: best friend run the uh the urban air out and
Speaker 1: um that snail bill yeah uh me when they got
Speaker 1: the trampoline part old cards and ship just check it
Speaker 1: out with the family is super dope. Um. So I
Speaker 1: probably be you know, business with my buddies. But other
Speaker 1: than that, I think rat was that or some kind
Speaker 1: of sporting ideas or something like that. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I would have just been a cool nigger from Atlanta
Speaker 1: from the east side. Show What do you think it
Speaker 1: is different about east Side people in relation to other
Speaker 1: people from other sides. We debate that here sometimes a
Speaker 1: little bit facts and I'll be like, so we had
Speaker 1: a big talk about the if you're from Atlantic, if
Speaker 1: you're not from the lamp So me, I'm boring at
Speaker 1: Georgia Boutles, you know what I'm saying. So I'm from
Speaker 1: I'm really for Ends, but I'm going to Georgia Battles bro.
Speaker 1: So i feel like I'm Atlanta baby. So I you know,
Speaker 1: my people stayed downtown. Then we moved to Forest Park.
Speaker 1: Then we moved on Stone Moundicator. So I think I'm
Speaker 1: a little a bit of everything, but I'm really an
Speaker 1: east Side nigga. But I think the east Side was
Speaker 1: like the first time where it's like your mom and
Speaker 1: daddy probably stayed together. That was like really only the
Speaker 1: difference between like the east Side to me versus like
Speaker 1: when I would go to the West Side and see
Speaker 1: my family, like my other family part of my friend
Speaker 1: for Joan or North so it's like you go over
Speaker 1: there and it really ain't Yeah, it ain't really a
Speaker 1: family orientator like that. You might your mom and your
Speaker 1: daddy might live someone of them, he might come over there. Whatever.
Speaker 1: So I think we was like the first time, like
Speaker 1: probably married families, like moved to that side of town
Speaker 1: because the house is a little bigger for you know,
Speaker 1: a family if you got to three kids and ship
Speaker 1: like that. So I think that's the only thing. So
Speaker 1: then the school and got a little better. But you know,
Speaker 1: now it's back to the east Side a little back
Speaker 1: and this ship look like Atlanta Land a little better
Speaker 1: than the east Side right now. Because I remember when
Speaker 1: I was growing up, it was like you start seeing
Speaker 1: the group homes pop up you's like Man's three Phone
Speaker 1: living the album Okay Wound. Then it's just like now
Speaker 1: when you go over there, it's just like that should
Speaker 1: look crazy. It's like, man, it's the East Side like
Speaker 1: it used to be kind of nice over you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I think now it's just everybody
Speaker 1: kind of spread. Now, you know, you've got different people,
Speaker 1: like I said, moving in, So it's just an influx
Speaker 1: of people. But I think the original East Side was
Speaker 1: just it was just clean players, not a cup pot
Speaker 1: duckhead ship. You know, Eastland boots out of the motherfucking
Speaker 1: magazine ship like that, you know, I mean we were
Speaker 1: just a little different, bro. You think like that that's
Speaker 1: side of town. Don't get musically the respect that they
Speaker 1: should for for what they've done for the city or
Speaker 1: being close to how you just want to say, do
Speaker 1: you think they don't get? I think we do. You
Speaker 1: know you still got Gucci still, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: I can see the East Atlanta, Atlanta all that East
Speaker 1: Side is like to me, like that's how I look
Speaker 1: at it. Depen and ship depend on where you go
Speaker 1: to jail at that how I'm looking at you go
Speaker 1: to the cad County like we all in them up
Speaker 1: a kind of together. So I think, um, yeah we do.
Speaker 1: We got we got a lot. But I think it
Speaker 1: gives off that that that polished level of music to me.
Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna get your childish gambinos, just your blacks,
Speaker 1: your jit you all don't get your you know, your guccies.
Speaker 1: You're like I said, your futures or your who else
Speaker 1: from over you know, you're twenty one over there. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It is like you're still gonna
Speaker 1: get nude and that vibe of it too. So I
Speaker 1: think it's a cool blend of you know, artists and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, street artists as well. What's
Speaker 1: the three biggest Atlanta like land marks like on some
Speaker 1: culture ship, not like the world of Coca Cola, we
Speaker 1: know Martin Luther Kingson and what you think? Like you
Speaker 1: could say clubs, strip clubs, you could say restaurants, Like
Speaker 1: what's the three motherfucker's that just this is Atlanta? These
Speaker 1: three landmarks? I mean, I mean, I guess you gotta
Speaker 1: say Magic. You got to go to Magic? I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: even though it's like you might want to go if
Speaker 1: you was from you're gonna go to Everybody want to
Speaker 1: go to magic, you know what I mean? So you're
Speaker 1: taking the magic um. I think the flame you gotta
Speaker 1: kind of be like you gotta be ushered into the flame.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying you Magic is like got
Speaker 1: a neutral location. Nobody want to you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That a ship. Damn. A lot of the landmarks are
Speaker 1: left though they ain't gotta be around them all. Back then,
Speaker 1: it was like shan trails are like to take it
Speaker 1: something to eat, like a soul fool spot. I used
Speaker 1: to love Mr Everything. We used to have like that spot,
Speaker 1: like but they still got like busy bees or something.
Speaker 1: But um the top just curious like bees over Central
Speaker 1: but cool. It's just you know, it's really Caribbean food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's why I used to like the rice over that ship.
Speaker 1: I mean I could. I was like, man, busy be
Speaker 1: I can get that at the crib, you know. But
Speaker 1: if you want to get some of that, I you out,
Speaker 1: you go to busy Bees and you got Walters on
Speaker 1: Cleveland Avenue. Walters Walter is definitely a staple. Water is
Speaker 1: definitely a staple man. So I think those are mainly
Speaker 1: the three. But like I said so much the change.
Speaker 1: You're like, mother, like, man, let's go to landings. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: not we gotta sneak in obviously. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I go earlier. My problem will be like Bro, I
Speaker 1: heard the buses that. I'm like, bro, y'all, I'm like,
Speaker 1: now they really had sex if you really want to
Speaker 1: shoot through them. But you know what I mean, But
Speaker 1: I think that that's by that. I think everything that
Speaker 1: changed now. You know, you got strip club and change
Speaker 1: clubs and change restaurants. It's like new restaurants now. I like,
Speaker 1: so sobe just a different Yeah. Yeah, what's some motivation
Speaker 1: you're guilt to upcoming rappers? Man? We always like to
Speaker 1: give game and motivation on big facts, like if they're
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, get their foot in the door.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to make it on some rap ship.
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes I don't be the easiest thing.
Speaker 1: With some game of motivation, you'll get to the people.
Speaker 1: UM A lot of time you just can't be scared
Speaker 1: to give it a hundred percent. But you know what
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times people just be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do that, if
Speaker 1: I want to be one for the end, one for that.
Speaker 1: It's just giving a hundred percent on any any part
Speaker 1: that you want to do. If you want to be
Speaker 1: a CEO, you want to be, you know, you gotta try.
Speaker 1: Don't be scared to fail at it. In so many words,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and go back to the the
Speaker 1: ground zero, because if you got it up one time,
Speaker 1: you can get it up again. But I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing is, you know, giving it a hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Even at my level, people might be like, man, you
Speaker 1: just wrapped so well. It's like, but I do a
Speaker 1: lot of writing, Like that's what I do on my
Speaker 1: free time. Like most people might play video games or
Speaker 1: you know, dudes might kick it with their partners. Whatever.
Speaker 1: My free time, I read and write. So I mean
Speaker 1: that's kind of just what I learned to do. I
Speaker 1: want a good reader growing up. So it was like
Speaker 1: a way that I kind of developed myself and my
Speaker 1: diction to kind of be able to speak to people
Speaker 1: and articulate myself through music and being able to embody
Speaker 1: other people vibes as well. Like some artists got a
Speaker 1: different box, they got a different you know way they
Speaker 1: come see things, and some you've got some artists that
Speaker 1: are like poetic, you've got something for artists that straightforward,
Speaker 1: So you gotta be able to like balance it. So
Speaker 1: my my biggest advices is whatever you want to do
Speaker 1: producing ship, if you just want to hustle some paper
Speaker 1: up and put it into you gotta get that a
Speaker 1: percent too. So anything you're doing and just make sure
Speaker 1: you give it a D no playing b s. Did
Speaker 1: you ever have a time that you want to just
Speaker 1: say funk the ship? Um? At times I'll be having that,
Speaker 1: but it don't be to the extent that like really
Speaker 1: like because I'm always I just developed so many music
Speaker 1: business relationships that I feel like I'm eventually being the
Speaker 1: music business kind of film, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, like I said, if it's at the
Speaker 1: executive levels that a you know, artists level, writer level,
Speaker 1: a musician, you know, managing producers, whatever, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: at some capacity. So I don't ever think I said
Speaker 1: funk it all the way. I just think I just
Speaker 1: kind of was like, you know, I take a break
Speaker 1: because I'm a little frustrated right now, do something else
Speaker 1: to take my mind off, you know, because being there,
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm a lot of people don't know, I
Speaker 1: kind of took the hard way out of Atlanta, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like far as on the music side,
Speaker 1: because I could, I got partners that I can do
Speaker 1: it the other way with, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's like I want to just always give that
Speaker 1: you know, that clean cut kind of you know, musicianship
Speaker 1: way of being able to do it because a lot
Speaker 1: of I'm like a pioneer on that and I feel
Speaker 1: like when people like Jizz see me or like I
Speaker 1: don't know, if you heard a guy gripped that's one
Speaker 1: of my new favorite arts, but he's signed the eminem
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like those kind
Speaker 1: of artists still exists in Atlanta and they don't have
Speaker 1: a home. So it's like, you know, giving them that
Speaker 1: confidence that they can still do it through the music,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And a lot of times
Speaker 1: you lose you you lose your your homie from the
Speaker 1: hood because you gotta be in the studio to do this.
Speaker 1: You can't half away to do this with if you
Speaker 1: go do a straight skill level, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If it's skill a rap, it's like you gotta be
Speaker 1: very good at that. So that's how important is it
Speaker 1: for you to just stay you? Though? Because like what
Speaker 1: if SHI would have tried to change this flow to
Speaker 1: adjust to the different flow? What what the side I
Speaker 1: was trying to sound like the Mee goals and you
Speaker 1: in heavy auto tune and auto type of ship, Like,
Speaker 1: how important is it for you to stay you? I
Speaker 1: mean I think it's important because, like I said, like
Speaker 1: when I put out stuff, it's like the now I
Speaker 1: will never forget bro. I was on. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say what artists I was with, but we was at
Speaker 1: this concert and it was a substantially bigger artist than
Speaker 1: me standing on my left and I'm just chilling back
Speaker 1: stage and a whole bunch of kids run up to
Speaker 1: this particular artist left and on the left of me, like, man,
Speaker 1: we love you, bro, let's call let's get a picture. Brother?
Speaker 1: So are you taking these pictures? And I see like
Speaker 1: three dudes walking up with the one in the middle
Speaker 1: of crime and I'm like, crop, but I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: just letting right here and take pictures. He sa did
Speaker 1: my cousin, Bro, he had did this? Who who? He
Speaker 1: gave me the whole spiller and this isn't even crime
Speaker 1: like bro like, it ain't I'm trying to take up,
Speaker 1: like you know, what's that? But to me, to him,
Speaker 1: to me, me and me was like everything, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know what I mean? He got
Speaker 1: kicked out of car. Yeah, yeah he had. He had
Speaker 1: did a couple of years in the joint, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, trying to sell whatever you're trying to sell.
Speaker 1: So it's like him coming out of that and it's
Speaker 1: like he was my biggest inspiration back then. It's like
Speaker 1: all eyes like, Okay, that's what I do it for.
Speaker 1: So you might have ten people who know this, popular
Speaker 1: artists right here, but these three dudes came to me
Speaker 1: to tell me they stored in tears. So it's like
Speaker 1: I take them three before I take them ten because
Speaker 1: them taking whoever famous they see, they're gonna run to,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So my thing is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: these three is that's why I do it for. So
Speaker 1: so that's what it is. Man, wish at you for
Speaker 1: covering this. Finally, finally looking forward to the album you
Speaker 1: Got live real, I need to be on what you
Speaker 1: on Brode show. They look good man, for show. Jake
Speaker 1: out here, I always see Jake. Jade is like, but
Speaker 1: you too, man, I can't wait. But I've been seeing
Speaker 1: y'all getting the artists back, but that takes the labels
Speaker 1: gonna come watch. That's gonna be some big because this
Speaker 1: is gonna this set the platform. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like sometimes you gotta rint and rework, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like they say, every master Monk's empty
Speaker 1: his cup sometimes, you know what I'm saying, Sometimes we
Speaker 1: get to that at level. Sometimes you gotta empty the
Speaker 1: cup and fill it back up with something something, something different, different,
Speaker 1: you know, I reinvent the wheels. So yeah, the show
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