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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, Hey, Well I was I got to say

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<v Speaker 1>hey hey in Greek.

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<v Speaker 2>Just say it with a Greek accent.

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<v Speaker 1>A A. I don't know. I don't know what a

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<v Speaker 1>Greek accent sounds like. They actually it sounds a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like Italian. When I heard people speaking, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds like Italian, but.

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<v Speaker 2>No sense to any of our Greek listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I don't have a good scope of reference.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, You're tripis amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, we didn't introduce ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tiffany, I'm jealous. Oh I'm Mandy is Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>The Greek edition. No, honestly, I have to say you

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<v Speaker 1>ever have you ever been like, oh my goodness, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a taste for something and you're not really sure

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<v Speaker 1>what and then you order something or you eat something

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<v Speaker 1>and it's exactly what you had to taste for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly how my trip got, like where it was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>what should I order from the menu? Should I get

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<v Speaker 1>a burger? Should I get this? Should I get that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? I'm gonna go with the fish? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like your mouth and your belly is like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we needed, Like Honestly, it's definitely I

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<v Speaker 1>would say top five trips of my lifetime. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>traveled to over thirty different countries, but definitely top five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my, what did you guys like? What made it

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<v Speaker 2>so special?

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<v Speaker 1>Pray tell Honestly, it was just because I've been to

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<v Speaker 1>Santorini before. That's why I went this time. It was

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<v Speaker 1>because a few things that it's so uniquely beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>like just so esthetically pleasing to the eye. Santorini is

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<v Speaker 1>very chill, like there's a neighboring island. It's a so

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<v Speaker 1>Santerini's part of like a series of kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>Greek islands. So Mikonos, which is next to Santorini is

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<v Speaker 1>like the party island, but Santorini is not. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>super chill. The vibe is super chill. The food was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It just was so relaxing. I mean it was almost

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<v Speaker 1>comotose and for the first time, like I did a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of work before I left, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody leave me alone unless someone is dying then called

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor and still leave me alone. And so like

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<v Speaker 1>I checked in kind of like twice in Flack. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, is anybody dead and they're like no. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Karen, who is my project manager, said Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>if we have just like a quick question, can we

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<v Speaker 1>ask it? I said absolutely not and she's like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And so like literally I just checked in twice just

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure because I knew I thought I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's payroll coming up, so I wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that like I didn't get like some notification that I

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<v Speaker 1>had to make a transfer for payroll. So just twice,

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<v Speaker 1>but I literally did like no work. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>opened my computer to like watch Netflix a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I used my phone as it was intended for Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so amazing. I mean it was just because

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<v Speaker 1>it was so relaxing and I didn't realize just how

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<v Speaker 1>much I needed to relax, and I just was so grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>I came back feeling refreshed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that sounds awesome. I could cry listening to you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that. I feel like I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>was asking my husband. I was like, when's the last

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<v Speaker 2>time we did a vacation that was actually a vacation

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<v Speaker 2>that we wanted to take. It wasn't like a wedding

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<v Speaker 2>or a family reunion, and legit we haven't been anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>since our honeymoon, like a year and a half ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>You travel a lot, so it feels like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>do go and you're like, no, that was for work.

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<v Speaker 1>India was cool, but that was for work. Georgia was cool,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was for this vacation. This, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>wedding or funeral or whatever. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also talk myself out of it to way too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get better about that. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of our listeners probably do the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, it's okay, one more month. Next month,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go. The month after that, I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I've been saying. I've been having the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same conversation with my cell since probably January. Like I've

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<v Speaker 2>almost planned three or four vacations in the last eight months,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this, it's got to happen, like September,

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<v Speaker 2>it has got to happen October. But here I am

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<v Speaker 2>doing it again. I'm like, maybe not September, maybe October

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<v Speaker 2>is better.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, it was everything. I went to a black

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<v Speaker 1>sand beach, which was epic. I took like a boat

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<v Speaker 1>tour on like this thing like a pirate ship. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't. I don't want to like steal

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<v Speaker 2>your shine. But I did go to Mini Haha Falls

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota this weekend and Minie Haha for the Ninaman

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<v Speaker 2>family reunion, yes ha, which honestly was like the most

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<v Speaker 2>stressful travel trip of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even really beautiful boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, it's cool. I did go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Mall of America a bunch. Yeah it's huge, it's pretty big.

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<v Speaker 2>It sure is.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, but yeah, I'm And meanwhile, I came back to

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred you know, typically I keep my emails like

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<v Speaker 1>around hovering around thirty or forty. I came back to

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<v Speaker 1>like three hundred and fifty emails because like apparently they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying something out. We're trying out a new email system.

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<v Speaker 1>And my project manager told my my my assistant, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the emails, but she was like, wait what

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<v Speaker 1>wait what does this email do? Wait? And I came

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<v Speaker 1>back and I was like, why what what? It's so

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<v Speaker 1>many emails?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't feel sorry for you. You had a week in Santorini.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've said all Sunday like I woke up because

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<v Speaker 1>I had jeed, Like I woke up like Sunday at

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<v Speaker 1>like three am. By eight I was still sitting by

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<v Speaker 1>the computer like my my life is a email because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not going with Monday with a

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<v Speaker 1>bajillion emails and like starting the week off like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like welcome home.

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<v Speaker 2>I love pre pre Monday work Sunday, right, Yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I do that too. I don't think it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you have time, I don't know it makes it.

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<v Speaker 2>If I can do one or two hours just to

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<v Speaker 2>feel a little bit better on Monday morning, I think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Worth it is, honestly, and I do. I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>pregame on Sundays all the time because I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna do is kill me on Monday. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to kill me Monday. Well, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad to I'm glad to be in act now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to have you back. And hey, you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even miss a show. You're so good exactly. Let's hit

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<v Speaker 2>up the social media real quick. I know we have

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<v Speaker 2>some posts some people reacting to last week's episode, which

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<v Speaker 2>if you didn't listen, go listen. We talked about how

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<v Speaker 2>my disk assessment training changed my life forever as a manager,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was surprised to see some people actually have

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<v Speaker 2>taken the DISC training because I had never heard about

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<v Speaker 2>it till we took it up at my at my

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<v Speaker 2>company and a couple of listeners we had at who

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<v Speaker 2>dat Lady Rowe said Mandy Woodjrif listening to this week's

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<v Speaker 2>b A podcast, I heard about DISC from the Manager

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<v Speaker 2>Tools pod and we did it as a department. I

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<v Speaker 2>agree one hundred percent, highly recommend and it totally changed

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<v Speaker 2>the way I communicate at work. I knew you were

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<v Speaker 2>a high seat. Yes, I'm a high seat. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>high st and it nailed me as a perfectionist. And

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<v Speaker 2>another tweet from at Ka Nary speaks Christy Calvert. She

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<v Speaker 2>says at the BA podcast, I listened to the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>today and I can't get It's love out of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks ladies, I love this song. Wait did we sing

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<v Speaker 2>that song?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? First of all, I let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what's hilarious is that somebody was like, yo, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get the best out of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was maybe she's listening to an old

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<v Speaker 2>episode I don't remember singing that song.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember either, but you know we're always singing.

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<v Speaker 2>Digging in the archives, digging in the archives, someone else

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<v Speaker 2>on and skipping over to the grim. We had one

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<v Speaker 2>listener so at nacho ins nachosena at Nachos, and Day said, so,

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<v Speaker 2>I did a disassessment at my last job, and it

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<v Speaker 2>confirmed everything I said about my work style and added

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<v Speaker 2>some surprising stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, be best.

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<v Speaker 2>People love the disc. Are you gonna what are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do? Disk assessment for the Budgetissa crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, at this rate, I'll never dig my way out

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<v Speaker 1>of what we are already have going on, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to do you know it might do that

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<v Speaker 1>the retreat. We have a retreat next month.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh perfect for a retreat, mm hmm, totally perfect. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a I put a link to last week's show

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<v Speaker 2>notes it's episode one thirty nine. I put a link

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<v Speaker 2>to There is a like shorter version because some people

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<v Speaker 2>point it out that disc is like two hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 2>if you buy it piecemeal, like on your own, which

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<v Speaker 2>obviously is a lot for a personality test. But Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Robbin self Help Guru has like a mini version of

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<v Speaker 2>Disc on his website and it's free. But just know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you sign up for it, you're giving your email.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to get all his junk mail. So I

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<v Speaker 2>might you might. You might do what my husband did,

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<v Speaker 2>which just sign up real quick with a junk email

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<v Speaker 2>and then like just let the emails flood that junk account.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Yeah, and a lot of people have like a

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<v Speaker 1>junk you have a junk email.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okaunt, Oh yeah for sure. Okay, It's what I

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<v Speaker 2>give people at checkout, and it's what I give just

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<v Speaker 2>any time. I know I'm going to get signed up

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<v Speaker 2>for some newsletter but I want to save ten percent

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, it's time for brown break Brown boo.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh you know what I'm gonna take. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do. Sorry, I just thought about it because

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw some shadiness on I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter streets looking at our brown ambition folks that have

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<v Speaker 1>been writing us, and I realized that, uh, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter beef going on. So I'm actually gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>brown break from Twitter boost from Twitter beef because it

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<v Speaker 1>just seems so ridiculous. So, you know, Nicki Minaj, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're aware because you're a millennial heard of her?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So did you know that Nicki Minaj had an ex

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend that she was with for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people even say maybe I was her secret husband.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Safari. Are you aware?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I in trouble?

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<v Speaker 4>If I say no, you're the oldest oldest millennial of time.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, Safari, who has been on love and hip hop?

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I know all the drop because this is

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<v Speaker 4>what I do when I'm not doing work. I need

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<v Speaker 4>some ratchetness anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what happened, but they've been going

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth at each other on Twitter for no

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<v Speaker 1>apparent reason. And Nicki Minaj is successful, she's beautiful, she

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<v Speaker 1>has a new album out, and it just doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>sense to I don't know, fight on Twitter on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want us all to take a.

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<v Speaker 2>Brown break, Like, who's she fighting with?

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<v Speaker 1>Safari? I don't know they've they've broken up. They broke

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<v Speaker 1>up years ago, and so it's just Foolishis just made

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<v Speaker 1>me think to myself that you know how people are,

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<v Speaker 1>like they'll address like you know their their audience and

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<v Speaker 1>say when someone says X y z T, you or

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<v Speaker 1>they'll address some negativity or whatever. And I always say

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, it's just really worth it, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like social media beef. You know, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>like just even with our current you know, Commander in

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<v Speaker 1>Chief addressing a woman as a dog on Twitter. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to also take a brown break from

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<v Speaker 1>social media beef because it just was like it lives

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<v Speaker 1>on forever and it's so ugly and so unnecessary, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, I'll stop calling you trash on Twitter?

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<v Speaker 1>You back? I set?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who has time for Twitter? What about me? So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give a brown So one thing I really

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<v Speaker 2>give kudos to this weekend. So my poor uncle, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I said, I was at the Niniman family reunion.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my grandma's side of the family. God rest her soul.

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<v Speaker 2>So my uncle was in charge of bringing all of

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<v Speaker 2>these photo albums, like compiling all the photos from the

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<v Speaker 2>family onto some flash drives and onto laptops and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>so we can set them up at our little reunion party.

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<v Speaker 2>And the poor guy had to check his bag at

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<v Speaker 2>the airport and ends up getting lost. The bag did

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<v Speaker 2>not make it to the carousel. Either that or someone

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<v Speaker 2>stole it off the carousel in Minneapolis. But fortunately, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean unfortunately, because you can't replace you know, the flash

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<v Speaker 2>stripes with the photos on them, or the laptop even

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<v Speaker 2>but his credit card had lost baggage protection, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of good travel cards have this, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's covered for some of the monetary value of the

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<v Speaker 2>possessions that he lost, which is pretty dope. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you ever lose your baggage, check your check the credit

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<v Speaker 2>card that you use to pay for the flight and

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<v Speaker 2>see if you have baggage protection, because it's a nice

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<v Speaker 2>little perk.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Like? Do you know what kind of card

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<v Speaker 1>he had?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't ask him, but I know, for example that

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<v Speaker 2>the like, if you're paying an annual fee for a

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<v Speaker 2>travel card, it's highly likely that they have some some

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<v Speaker 2>type of lost baggage protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it does ours. You know, we have the adventure

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<v Speaker 1>jump on a plane and jump on an airplane card. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>I never know the.

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<v Speaker 2>Name of our card, good time card.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, is there an adventure? Wasn't aware?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me bookmark back to check during the show and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you know. Okay, but I'm pretty sure it does.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't want to misspeak.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh all right, Well we have questions. Question, how

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna name that band?

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy, name it?

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<v Speaker 1>Name it? You have five second.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Question how you go? Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay, that's Destiny's Child. But you didn't do them.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to work really hard to put that in

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<v Speaker 2>the right key.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I am off key like a mug.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Anyway, it's questioned.

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<v Speaker 2>So our first question comes from listener Mikayla. She says, hey, ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the podcast. You guys are truly goals. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this may be a case by Kse situation. But

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<v Speaker 2>how much did you did you all or would you

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<v Speaker 2>have liked to have saved by age thirty? Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm rushing and my loans feel crippling from

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<v Speaker 2>time to time. Can I think cation purchase a home

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<v Speaker 2>and pay back my loan my loan debt from Mikayla,

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, how much? How much? So we're both over thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>but how much did we have saved? And how much

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<v Speaker 2>do you wish you could have saved by age thirty?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what I had saved that by

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<v Speaker 1>age thirty. I had negative three hundred thousand. Okay, like legitimately,

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<v Speaker 1>I owed a mortgage that I had foreclosed on. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a fifty thousand dollars student loan debt, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also had like thirty something thousand on like credit card

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<v Speaker 1>debt and some other debts. Basically, yeah, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a little over three hundred thousand. That's an at

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<v Speaker 1>age thirty. Well, all my twenty nine, twenty thirtieth birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to move back home and sleep in my

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<v Speaker 1>middle school bed and I stay with my parents for

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<v Speaker 1>about a year. So that's what my life was looking

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<v Speaker 1>like at thirty. So ideally, I probably would have liked

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<v Speaker 1>to have I don't know, like maybe like fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to fifty to one hundred thousand, I guess, like

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily saved in cash, but like cash for tiring,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, like assets, I guess. But honestly, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>for me was such a crazy time because it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the height of the recession, and so I was

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to be like hmmm, beans and rice or just.

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<v Speaker 2>Rice fair enough, fair enough, And yeah, well thirty was

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<v Speaker 2>so long ago. It was a year ago, So about

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago, if I'm not counting, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have debt when I was thirty, and I did start

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<v Speaker 2>contributing to a four to one K when I was

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty four, and I didn't mention. Mikaela says she's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, so she has eight years. I was around

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<v Speaker 2>her age when I opened up my first four or

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<v Speaker 2>one K, and I had been slowly steadily paying it

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<v Speaker 2>off and my income that had gotten increasingly bigger over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, and by thirty, I would say I had

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<v Speaker 2>saved about with four one K and my cash savings

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<v Speaker 2>a little hundred one hundred thousand dollars at age thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>But that that may sound like a lot of I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a lot, but I think I only got

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<v Speaker 2>there because I started saving so early in my twenties

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<v Speaker 2>and I wasn't earning very much when I was saving.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you what happened. The timing was perfect

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<v Speaker 2>for me, So I started saving in like twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the market. And so what happened is,

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<v Speaker 2>like I can tell you one of my accounts I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't even touched since I left my job that I

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<v Speaker 2>first opened my four one K. I just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>kept it in my Vanguard account, and it has made money, money, money,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but money in the year since the recession because

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<v Speaker 2>the market has improved. We just yeah, it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>really strong stock market lately. So everything I had invested

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<v Speaker 2>at a low cost back in the twenty ten has

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<v Speaker 2>just like boomed since then. And I couldn't predict that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm so happy that I started investing early because

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<v Speaker 2>my money has had time to grow over time. So well,

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<v Speaker 2>I you a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucky ducky to have invested at the bottom. Meanwhile, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, let's see, I timed the market just right

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, let me get it at the very

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<v Speaker 1>tap and crash ooh it's a fun ride down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You I don't know, you turned out fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're fine at Santorini.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, I mean I definitely was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was Yeah. So I say, there's no real

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<v Speaker 1>rhyme re like, you know what, honestly, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect illustration, right, Mandy. So you were you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>got into the market perfect timing and it worked out great.

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<v Speaker 1>I got into the market the worst timing and it

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<v Speaker 1>still worked out great. So I guess I hope the

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<v Speaker 1>lesson in all of that is really just like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not so much it's not so much the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't control, it's the ones that you can.

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<v Speaker 1>So I lived really simply. I saved safe safe, and

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<v Speaker 1>I began investing. And it took me really until like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five until I was a place to really be

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<v Speaker 1>able to have enough to start investing. And now that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty eight and I'm more than fine. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't not I mean, the earlier you could start, the better,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's never too late to do something, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it's the end of the world just because

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<v Speaker 1>something bad happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's like really there's rule of thumbs out there,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was when I got Michaela's question. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>JP Morgan Chase puts out this annual guide to retirement

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<v Speaker 2>and in this guide they have this chart and it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like find your age and then find your income,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, you find the point on the

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<v Speaker 2>chart and it kind of tells you what your target

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<v Speaker 2>savings goal should be. So, for example, if I'm age thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put this chart in the notes of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I'm age thirty and I'm earning seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. This guide says I should be saving at

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<v Speaker 2>least one point one point one times that household income.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's one point one times over? So just about

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<v Speaker 2>one year salary, So seventy five thousand bo boop bee poop.

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<v Speaker 2>That's eighty two thousand, five hundred. That's how much you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have saved by that time. Now, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>listening right now, I know a lot of our listeners

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<v Speaker 2>are in their thirty and they're in the car right

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<v Speaker 2>now sweating. If you don't have that much saving and retirement,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not meant to make you feel bad. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>saving anything at all, it's better than, you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>saving nothing. But it's nice to have a goal to

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<v Speaker 2>aspire to. It's nice to have something to want to achieve.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're like Mikayla, and one thing that she

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<v Speaker 2>also mentioned in her notice that she has about fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars worth of student loan debt with AUTODI, it

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<v Speaker 2>may not be possible to put that much money aside

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<v Speaker 2>by age thirty. Maybe the next eight years for you

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<v Speaker 2>are more about hunkering down and paying off that debt

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<v Speaker 2>first because you have to look at paying off debt

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<v Speaker 2>as a form of wealth building as well. I was lucky,

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<v Speaker 2>and second times over because I went to a state

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<v Speaker 2>school and I only graduated with seven thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>student loan debt, so I didn't have the big you know,

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<v Speaker 2>student loan debt holding me back. And I completely I

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<v Speaker 2>recognize that privilege. I recognize that fortune because I know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of my friends are struggling because they,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, had more student student debt than I did.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're you're only twenty two, you have so much

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<v Speaker 2>time ahead of you. Yeah, So I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, honestly, I would use the time, like Bady said,

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<v Speaker 1>use this time to pay down debt. Use this time

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<v Speaker 1>to stack stack, stack safe, safe, safe, so you can invest,

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<v Speaker 1>quite honestly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if you're paying off your student loan debt

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<v Speaker 2>right now, which is good, you know, continue doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't doesn't mean it doesn't mean that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to open up a four to one K. You

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<v Speaker 2>can open up your four to one K. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>your company offers a match, at least contribute enough to

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<v Speaker 2>capture that match, and then you know, contribute what you

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<v Speaker 2>possibly as much as you possibly can to your four

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<v Speaker 2>one K and then continue like increasing it as your

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<v Speaker 2>debt starts going down over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but all in now, if you put the work in,

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<v Speaker 1>usually something that comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, maam okay. So next question comes from listener Ashland.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a cool name. I'm Ashland and I'm brown. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a second, there was instructions. She said, please say

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<v Speaker 2>this in a happy voice. I'm Ashland and I'm Brown. Yes, Aslan,

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a quick wedding question. Ashland says, I

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<v Speaker 2>recently got engaged and I've become low key overwhelmed with

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<v Speaker 2>wedding planning. The wedding date is March thirtieth, twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the engagement, I never wanted a big wedding book, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>things have changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I can just tell the parents are here. I can

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel it coming. Things have changed. We are

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<v Speaker 2>expecting at least two hundred or maybe a little more.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents are pastor's guests at the wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Ouch, that's like twice my wedding. I know you both

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<v Speaker 2>understand me when I say weddings are expensive. I want

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<v Speaker 2>a nice wedding, but I don't want to live in

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<v Speaker 2>poverty fair enough? How do we as newly weds? What

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<v Speaker 2>would you suggest regarding how to plan a nice wedding

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<v Speaker 2>without breaking the bank. Any suggestions regarding how to effectively

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<v Speaker 2>plan a budget friendly honeymoon would be appreciated as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So how about those two hundred people? Can you cut

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<v Speaker 2>like seventy five percent of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Because it's it's just there's no way to have

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively inexpensive wedding and have three hundred people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like eat, like what a it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars person? You know, well how much? What? How

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<v Speaker 1>much did people cost per person for your wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>I think about one hundred dollars? Actually I'm not I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I know one hundred and five dollars per person.

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<v Speaker 2>That covered food and open bar and the venue and

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. So believe me, when when

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<v Speaker 2>people didn't show up, I tap calculated how much money

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<v Speaker 2>was spent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and that sucks. We don't show up anyway,

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 1>they owe you money. But I'm the worst person to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>because honestly, I refused to participate. I was like, I sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>got just clapping. Refused to participate.

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<v Speaker 2>I refused, Well, you enjoyed that chicken biscuit bart my

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<v Speaker 2>wedding Dinnis show.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly, yo, I'm not gonna lie. Mandy's wedding like,

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<v Speaker 1>hands down, definitely top three weddings of all time, but

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<v Speaker 1>that e been too. It was so much fun and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason why I didn't have one is not

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't. You know, I don't like the next things.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly hate planning events. I hate being the scent

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<v Speaker 1>like if I'm speaking, that's fine, but I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>personally as Tiffany, being the center of attention. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>so uncomfortable the whole time. So I was like, okay, guys, bye, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>guys bye. So yeah, that's why for me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent twenty five hundred dollars. A friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>let us use her restaurant. It was like a Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got married at just as the piece and

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<v Speaker 1>I had literally like Mandy, how many people were just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>was that like maybe like thirty people? Yeah? Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>that was it, Like, you know, we bought liquor from wherever.

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do we even have hooker? I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like, can you guys go home? I

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<v Speaker 1>hate this, so but I say this that I would

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<v Speaker 1>list the things that are the most expensive parts of

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<v Speaker 1>your wedding and figure out how you can like dress, alcohol, venue,

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<v Speaker 1>and figure out like what can what can you do,

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<v Speaker 1>what unique things can you do to keep these these

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<v Speaker 1>costs down? Because that's where well, I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you say, Mandy, like what where were the places where

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<v Speaker 1>you could kind of say, well, you know what, if

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<v Speaker 1>we pull back here, we could still have something really

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<v Speaker 1>nice over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a couple of strategies we use sour our wedding

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<v Speaker 2>really wasn't unaffordable. I mean, one, we had the wedding

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<v Speaker 2>that we wanted, so for me, the money that we

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<v Speaker 2>spent was worth it in the end. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>what happens if you're not having the wedding that you

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<v Speaker 2>want and you're spending money on it, It just makes

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like crap afterwards. So I would say take

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<v Speaker 2>control early and set barriers. Set ground rules for your

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 2>parents who want to keep adding guests. Talk to your

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 2>parents if they're going to be adding guests, see if

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<v Speaker 2>they'll actually pay for their pay for the cost of

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<v Speaker 2>adding them to your reception because that's where the real

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 2>money is spent at the reception. So one area that

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 2>we definitely cut was on the flowers. We decided early

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<v Speaker 2>that that's not any money that we wanted to spend,

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<v Speaker 2>so we just like for my rehearsal dinner, my friends

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 2>bought flowers from like the grocery store and they looked

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<v Speaker 2>really nice, let me just tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were beautiful. I mean, I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even notice like no flowers because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like twilight and you had beautiful flower

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<v Speaker 1>It was beautiful. Honestly. You picked such a great location

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>in Savannah, which is like one of my favorite American cities,

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<v Speaker 1>that it just it added to like the ambiance, so

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't miss flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like the setting, you know, just having it.

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<v Speaker 2>Destination wedding in general sometimes helps you trim the guest

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<v Speaker 2>list naturally because fewer people are likely to travel, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's one way you could do it. If you if

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<v Speaker 2>you can get away with doing a destination wedding, that

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes can be more affordable and you kind of passed

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<v Speaker 2>the cost onto your guests, but then you can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bill it as oh, you're getting an experience. Come

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<v Speaker 2>to my wedding and you Puntacana or Florida or wherever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and what Tiffany did too, where you had a private

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<v Speaker 2>wedding and then a bigger reception afterward. That's one idea

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<v Speaker 2>to invite some people to I don't know, maybe have

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<v Speaker 2>a smaller Here's one way you can save, like Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>if you had if you had had your your reception

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<v Speaker 2>that you had the day after or sorry, the same

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<v Speaker 2>day that you got married, if you did something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like a small intimate dinner where you're paying for everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>food yliquer, and then afterward you have a bigger party,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at a public place where it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>you're paying for food and drinks or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that A nice idea that could be.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be one option too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and honestly too, if you had the cash, like

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<v Speaker 1>for the wedding. So let's just say you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>saving and you have the cash. What I would do,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you asked about the honeymoon is I would

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<v Speaker 1>use a travel card to swipe for things and then

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<v Speaker 1>pay off the card and then you know it earned

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<v Speaker 1>the points to to to get the flight for free.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, they mess you up though, because I

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 2>thought I was going to do the same thing. I mean,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I did end up earning a lot of points for

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<v Speaker 2>my wedding related expenses and stuff that helped me pay

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<v Speaker 2>for the honeymoon. But I found that a lot of

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 2>venues will charge you like a three percent credit processing fee.

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and at the most you're going to get

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>three percent cash back on credit cards now, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it kind of negates, oh, the value. So if

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<v Speaker 2>just just pay attention to that, don't swipe if there's

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<v Speaker 2>like it'll it'll take away the benefit if they charge

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<v Speaker 2>a credit processing fee. So just keep that in mind.

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, you still have time to do what

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I did, which is take out a credit card that

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<v Speaker 2>had a good sign up bonus and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as you can afford it and you can

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<v Speaker 2>fit it into your finances and then use it so

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<v Speaker 2>that you have some points in the bank that you

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<v Speaker 2>can then use and put toward your honeymoon and.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty nineteen, Okay, that's smart.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the just just barriers, man barriers, ground rules,

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>keep the parents in line, Like just take controls your day. Yeah,

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 2>if you piss. I think people are so afraid to

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.040
<v Speaker 2>piss people off, and like you know, they want we

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 2>want to please everybody on our wedding, and it just

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 2>so quickly can become everybody else's day but yours. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really proud that we were able to keep our

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<v Speaker 2>day about what we wanted and when we found valuable.

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>And also shout out to my family for not being

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>ridiculous drama queens. But if that's what you know, you

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about your parents wanting to invite more people, just

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 2>set ground rules, ask them to contribute, and don't be

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:20.479
<v Speaker 2>shy about it.

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could be crazy. Because when my friends got

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<v Speaker 1>married and she cut her mother off from invitations, her

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>mother started photocapping it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh my god.

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I don't care what they look like.

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving it to my friends. I was like, oh

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>my yo. Her wedding was with donkey like it was. I.

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I had never seen that many people in one place.

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is a fire hazard. And she looked

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 1>angry the whole wedding and I was like yea, ye

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>oh for her, I know. Literally, I turned to my mama,

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I looked at her. I said, never and she was like,

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I know. I was like, we're not doing this, Like

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I this is crazy. She's like, it is honestly, her

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>mother took it too far, but you know, it ended

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.239
<v Speaker 1>up well. She's got like three beautiful kids and she's

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 1>been married for like, I don't know, ten years now.

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>So it was one day, but I'm sure it's one day.

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.479
<v Speaker 1>She looks back at it, she's like, my mom's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well, good luck Mikayla or sorry, good luck Ashlyn.

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>One last question, let's do it okay. This one comes

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 2>from listener Charrelle. Okay. Charrelle says, when I was twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>dumb and in love, I made a terrible financial decision

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>as you do, as you do. Yeah, how do you

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>know I knew?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>I knew?

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So, she says, my ex boyfriend co signed for my

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<v Speaker 2>car because I didn't make enough money to get the

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 2>car I wanted. He offered to do it after I refinanced.

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Two years later, we broke up, but then after that

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>his credit sucked and I decided to return the favor

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>when he asked me to co sign a car for him.

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>So she thinks, so she's paid off her car. She

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 2>refinanced out of her loan to get him off of it,

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and then he comes around later and asks her to

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<v Speaker 2>co sign alone for his car. Okay, So she says,

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>it's been three since he's had the car and he's

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<v Speaker 2>never paid the car note on time and has done

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and hastip multiple times asked for a deferment. I've pressed

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>him about refinancing it so I can get off the loan,

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.719
<v Speaker 2>but he always says I'm working on it. Fast forward today,

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I get an alert from Credit Karma that my seven

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred plus credit score has dropped to the six fifties. Yeah,

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>he's over one hundred or sorry, he's over one thousand

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 2>dollars past due on his payments. Right now, part of

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>me wants to tell him to turn the car in

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 2>for repossession, and I'll have to swallow that because I

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>made a poor financial decision based on emotions. So my

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>question is what's worse a whole bunch of late payments

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>or a voluntary repo. I'm going to have a nervous

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>breakdown because I've worked so hard not to have lazy,

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 2>lousy credit like the rest of my family, and I

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>want this situation to be over in the least detrimental way.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I really love your guys opinion on this.

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>First I was like, yeah, he calls out of you girl. Yeah,

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that's this mistake. And I was like, oh, after.

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>The broken up, that's so.

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<v Speaker 1>I I you know, I'm not gonna say I've never

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I let me tell you Superman and I got into

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>like a very strong conversation when he wanted me to well,

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even because if the worst arguments are always

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the fictional ones, like he was like, I would say, oh,

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I told him I would never co sign, and that

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine we weren't even there was nothing to

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>co sign for, just the fact that I was like,

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>for the fictional car that you're not getting, I would

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>never co sign when we were boyfriend and girlfriend. What

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that's so terrible If you're my girlfriend but you're not

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>getting a car so you have you're his girlfriend? What

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that I should co sign? His other girlfriends have co signed,

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and I said, and they were foolish, like, that's not

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>My dad always taught me that, like, you don't co

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>sign for everyone. He even told me, not even for

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>your sisters. If they want to borrow money, then you

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>lend in. If they don't pay it back. That's one thing, okay,

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>but don't co sign for anyone. And I remember we

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>got it was like it was like a week long

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>strong debate over something we weren't buying. It was just

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the thought that I would never co He couldn't believe it.

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, because co signing is you're attaching yourself to

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>this person's decisions and you don't have as much control

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>as you like. I mean, I don't know which one

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>is worth. I mean, honestly, yeah, I don't.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna they're both gonna hurt your credit. Like a

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>voluntary repot is going to go on your credit report.

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Mispayments are going to go on your credit report, and

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna stay there for seven years, which sucks. But

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I would say staunch the bleeding as soon as possible. Yeah,

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know how much power you have

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>in it to initiate a voluntary repossession, but just know

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>what the voluntary repost. So what's gonna happen is they're

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna sell your car and then if the loan balance

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>is if there's a loan balance left over, so let's

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 2>say the car is only worth three thousand, but he

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>has a five thousand dollars loan, then you're still on

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>the hook for that two thousand dollars payment. So if

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>you're really thinking about doing a voluntary repo, just be

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>ready to help him pay off that debt. I mean,

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>it sucks. It's it's either wait on him to get

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>around to doing it, or I like, eat it, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, eat the fact that it was a bad

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<v Speaker 2>financial decision and help him pay it off so that

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<v Speaker 2>you can, you know, wash your hands and be done

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, so one one major bump versus continue him

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<v Speaker 1>continuously being late and late and late and late and

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<v Speaker 1>dragging it out. I agree. But yeah, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good lesson. We all make for financial mistakes. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way to avoid it. It's just what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do after you make them. Do you stay there and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like stew in it, or you do take action?

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing about it is, I always say, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to budgeting, debt or credit, if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to have an issue, I'd rather a credit issue because

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<v Speaker 1>there are things that you can do fairly quickly to

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<v Speaker 1>raise your credit. Budgeting and savings and debt take more

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<v Speaker 1>time and discipline. If you ask me than fixing credit exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>we look at you examtly. We're all gonna sound like

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<v Speaker 1>my husband, sister's husband.

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<v Speaker 2>It finally got to me three years in.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have husbanisms that you say? You're like, when

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<v Speaker 1>did I start saying this.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got me saying come on man, after ed I

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<v Speaker 2>love that, and we stay at the same time. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's really really bad. I gotta stop saying I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even know what's something the Superman says, like one

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends said it, well, one of our like

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<v Speaker 1>our couple friends, and she was like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, I was asking what did I get

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<v Speaker 1>this from? He's like Superman says that. He says, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, whenever he's done, he's I'm just gonna fade

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<v Speaker 1>the black. You know, I'm just gonna fade the black.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know. So like I heard her saying, I'm like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>fade the black. That sounds like Superman. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where I got it. I'm like, we

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<v Speaker 1>all eventually sound like Superman.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, remember I said I was going to give

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<v Speaker 2>you the answer, so chase the card. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the lost baggage coverage. So the Chase Sapphire Reserve Card

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<v Speaker 2>is the one that we have, and it does have

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<v Speaker 2>lost luggage reimbursement up to three thousand dollars per passenger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes see that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great little benefit. So keep that in minds.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's another reason to book your travel with

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<v Speaker 2>a travel credit card. Credit card in general, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>on you know, you might have more protections, but then

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<v Speaker 2>if you get one with extra protections like that, it

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<v Speaker 2>gives you that extra bit of security.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie, and I am not a huge

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<v Speaker 1>Chase fan, but I do like that card. So because

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<v Speaker 1>Chase has my house, So you know, there's that Think of.

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<v Speaker 2>It this way, like you're making money off of them

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<v Speaker 2>and they're losing money because of you. Because as long

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<v Speaker 2>as you are earning rewards and paying your balance off

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<v Speaker 2>like they're they're they're barely making money off of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. I guess they make a little bit every

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<v Speaker 2>time you swipe your card. But you know you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>yours too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm getting mine. I just don't have my house though, Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>You forgot about that. You know what, I'm gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>down it's fine. I'm in a better space now. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. All right. Well that was a awesome session

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<v Speaker 1>of broad ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling it a session like therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys can always hit us. We love, love, love

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<v Speaker 1>to get your messages. Definitely tweet us at the BA podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You could use the hashtag broad ambition as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>I look at that too. Hit us on Twitter. We

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<v Speaker 1>are what are we on Twitter? Well, we just type

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<v Speaker 1>in broad Ambition at the b A podcast on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>because we love reading your your your your tweets, your

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<v Speaker 1>your not your Twitter. I'm meant to say, I G

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<v Speaker 1>what are we on ig?

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<v Speaker 2>At Broad Ambisson Podcast, We're that.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, So we love reading those things. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>love especially me. I'm like, oh yes, tweete