WEBVTT - Are Gen Z Men All Republicans Now

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<v Speaker 1>All media.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, howdy, welcome back to it could happen here

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast about about those wacky gen Z kids and

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<v Speaker 2>how all of the things that the mainstream media used

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<v Speaker 2>to say about millennials I have now embraced to say

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<v Speaker 2>about gen Z who are destroying the world through their

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<v Speaker 2>through their greed and evilness and good knees comparatively. Yeah, Miah,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you doing? You're you're gen Z?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm on okay, I am on the exact

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<v Speaker 1>borderline of I am either the oldest Zoomer or the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest millennial.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're you're a day walker, right like you're the

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<v Speaker 2>you're the Blade of gen Z. Yeah, yeah, okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>you could go out in the sub onions, but you

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<v Speaker 2>still blood. Yeah, I get it, I get it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the Chris Christal I guess I'm the Chris Christofferson.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're doing the original Blade movie, which I watched

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<v Speaker 2>over Thanksgiving break pretty good. I hadn't seen it in

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking twenty years, but solid movie, solid movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's kind of downhill from the Blood Rave.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Blood Rave is pretty sick. It's all every

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<v Speaker 1>everything in culture was downhill from blood rave. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got some it's got some good bits to it. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what doesn't have good bits to it.

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<v Speaker 4>The institution of marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>That I mean, I don't disagree with that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to say the Washington Post editorial board, Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, so we are talking is that this

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<v Speaker 2>is an episode about some gin z panic shit that

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<v Speaker 2>came out recently. That thought I felt was worth digging

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<v Speaker 2>into because of the pretty interesting ways in which it's

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<v Speaker 2>wrong if you were, you know, celebrating being with your family,

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<v Speaker 2>eating turkey or just shooting up Heroin alone in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week, on November twenty second, twenty twenty three, the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post Editorial Board published an opinion column with the

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<v Speaker 2>provocative title, if attitudes don't shift, a political dating mismatch

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<v Speaker 2>will threaten marriage.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah, yeah, I love this. Vitally destroy the institution?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, we're doing this through a political dating mismatch.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think an article with roughly this premise drops every year,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes a couple of times a year, on a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of different places. This time it came in through the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post editorial Board, and the basic premise of this

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<v Speaker 2>specific article is that gen Z and millennial men are

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<v Speaker 2>growing more conservative while women are growing more progressive. This

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<v Speaker 2>threatens marriage as an institution because all these closed minded

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z lib broads won't date report opplicans. Right. That

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<v Speaker 2>is literally like the point of the article is a

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z liberal women, they are less willing to date

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<v Speaker 2>outside of their political beliefs, and men are getting more conservative.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really a danger for marriage.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand if your first impulse is to say something like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>when has the Washington Post editorial board ever been right

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<v Speaker 2>about a single goddamn thing? And that is a correct

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<v Speaker 2>attitude to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they make the decision not to publish an article.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some days where they don't write anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to, that is a good decision. If

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<v Speaker 2>they made that decision every day, I would be fully

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<v Speaker 2>supportive of the Washington Post editorial board. And if they'll

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<v Speaker 2>hire me, I can make that decision for them every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very good at not doing anything. That said, even

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<v Speaker 2>though it is correct to say the Washington Post editorial

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<v Speaker 2>boarder basically always wrong, I've still run into overwhelming numbers

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<v Speaker 2>of my peers who think this article is silly but

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<v Speaker 2>still buy into the basic point in this piece. This

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<v Speaker 2>is generally married to a widespread belief which is actually

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<v Speaker 2>cited in the article, that toxic male influencers like Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Tate have tilted huge numbers of young men to the right.

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<v Speaker 2>So even though people will be like, well, it's stupid

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<v Speaker 2>to expect people to date, you know, folks who believe

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<v Speaker 2>horrible political things that would hurt them, it's true that

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<v Speaker 2>men are getting more young men are getting more conservative right,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is I think generally down to this belief

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<v Speaker 2>that has I don't think people examine often. They just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like they get concerned about the popularity of

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<v Speaker 2>guys like Tate, which is valid, he's concerning, but assume

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<v Speaker 2>that does mean that like, yeah, we're losing the young men.

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<v Speaker 2>They've all been tilted towards these guys. And so, without

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<v Speaker 2>discounting the damage of dudes like Tate, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>give a breakdown of how common the so called right

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<v Speaker 2>word tilt of young men actually is because spoilers, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a pernicious bit of disinformation, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of blackpills a lot of people unnecessari Let's start

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<v Speaker 2>with the obvious point here. Young men are not growing

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<v Speaker 2>more conservative across the board than men of other generations.

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<v Speaker 2>So first off, I want to read you a quote

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<v Speaker 2>from this Post editorial. Since mister Trump's election in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the percentage of young women ages eighteen to thirty who

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<v Speaker 2>identify as liberal has shot up from slightly over twenty

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<v Speaker 2>percent to thirty two percent. Young men have not followed suit.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, they have grown more conservative. Now that claim

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<v Speaker 2>is based, you want to guess, did they cite a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of different sources to prove like that it's a

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<v Speaker 2>really widespread problem, or do they have a single statorial.

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<v Speaker 4>Board they have?

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<v Speaker 1>Those people could not find a second study if you

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<v Speaker 1>nailed it to their face, they share, couldn't they share?

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't they googled real quickly? Or I'm not even going

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<v Speaker 1>to give them credit for googling. One of their friends

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<v Speaker 1>who works at a right wing think tank sent them

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<v Speaker 1>a survey from that right wing think tank, because that

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<v Speaker 1>the entire statistical base of that claim is a study

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<v Speaker 1>by the American Enterprise Institute, which is a center right

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<v Speaker 1>think tank that tends to produce center rights surveys. And

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<v Speaker 1>even then, the study that they are actually citing doesn't show.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Post editorial Board claims again, their claim is

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<v Speaker 1>young men have not followed suit. If anything, they have

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<v Speaker 1>grown more conservative, right, young men. So they are talking

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<v Speaker 1>across the board about gen Z and millennial males. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to quote from that study. Previous research identified

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<v Speaker 1>a growing gap and ideological orientation between young men and women.

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<v Speaker 1>The gender gap in liberal identity is notable among members

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<v Speaker 1>of Generation Z, but it's relatively modest. Forty three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of gen Z women identify as liberal compared to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of gen Z men. However, the gender divide

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<v Speaker 1>among white, non Hispanic gen Z adults is considerable, close

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<v Speaker 1>to half. Forty six percent of gen Z women are liberal,

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<v Speaker 1>a far greater share than white gen Z men, among

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<v Speaker 1>whom only twenty eight percent identify liberal. Among gen Z adults,

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<v Speaker 1>white men are significantly more likely than white women to

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<v Speaker 1>identify as politically conservative thirty six percent versus twenty six percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So you see what number one of the study is

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<v Speaker 1>doing there is it's saying forty three percent of gen

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<v Speaker 1>Z women, all gen Z women identify as liberal, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>and then it goes to thirty six percent of white

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<v Speaker 1>gen Z men identify as an app it's switching it

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<v Speaker 1>on them.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And while it does eventually acknowledge the differences, where because

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<v Speaker 2>it says that like across the board, all gen Z

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<v Speaker 2>men thirty five percent or conservative, forty three percent of

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z women are liberal. That's not a massive gap, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Washington Post editorial board just makes the claim that

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<v Speaker 2>young men have grown more conservative, which is not supported

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<v Speaker 2>by the study. And also the study is specifically talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how gen Z white men have gotten more conservative. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>very different things being claimed here. So the Post just

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<v Speaker 2>ignored what was actually in the survey to claim all

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<v Speaker 2>young men, not just young white men, are more conservative,

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<v Speaker 2>not just Z white men are more conservative. Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>is weird. But even if you take the study, which

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<v Speaker 2>is misrepresented by the editorial board at its face value,

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<v Speaker 2>that study does not gel with all of the other

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<v Speaker 2>data that we have. Now, when I went through this,

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<v Speaker 2>it was hard to find good data on just gen

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<v Speaker 2>Z men that is not broken down in most of

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<v Speaker 2>the studies that we get. But we do have some

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<v Speaker 2>information on how gen Z adult men voted as a

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<v Speaker 2>group in the twenty twenty two midterms, and that data

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<v Speaker 2>is telling based on the twenty twenty two midterms seventy

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<v Speaker 2>one percent of young women. That's a that's gen Z

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<v Speaker 2>mostly gen Z eighteen to twenty nine. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z taps out at twenty six right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>presumably a percentage of the people in this are technically millennials,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're like you, they're day walkers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's like what, like, oh my god, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do math live on air.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like twenty seven to forty something is

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<v Speaker 2>the millennials.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to say it's close enough to this.

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<v Speaker 4>This is closes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only like three years of people right exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're the three years that are that are right in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>But of that of these voters in the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two midterms, seventy one percent of young women voted for Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six percent voted for Republicans, fifty three percent of

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<v Speaker 2>young men voted for Democrats, forty two percent voted for Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>And among LGBT, and again this is not broken down

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<v Speaker 2>male or female, ninety three percent voted for Democrats, and overall,

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<v Speaker 2>among non LGBT youth, fifty eight percent voted for Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight percent voted for Republicans. So again, not massive

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<v Speaker 2>discrepancies here. And one thing that may help to explain

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<v Speaker 2>this that again is not really broken down in the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post editorial is that while gen Z white men

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<v Speaker 2>have are more conservative compared to like gen Z millennial

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<v Speaker 2>white men, gen Z itself is a lot less white

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<v Speaker 2>prior generations, which means overall gen Z men are not

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<v Speaker 2>really getting more conservative. About fifty five percent of gen

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<v Speaker 2>Z is white compared to about seventy percent of boomers. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is one major reason why. Again because again

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<v Speaker 2>if you actually factor in all of gen Z, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not this huge worry about like a marriage discrepancy as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you assume that people. You know that interracial

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<v Speaker 2>dating is not a problem for most people the way

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<v Speaker 2>it is for apparently the Washington Post editorial board. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of caveats here. One is that midterm

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<v Speaker 2>voters are historically more engaged and educated than voters of

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<v Speaker 2>other generations. However, that may not necessarily hold true with

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z or millennial voters today due to a variety

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<v Speaker 2>of factors. One worthwhile point is that young people tend

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<v Speaker 2>to be driven far more by what they encounter through

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<v Speaker 2>social media, which is probably part of why gen Z

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<v Speaker 2>and millennial voters consider abortion to be a more important

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<v Speaker 2>thing to vote on than the economy by a margin

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<v Speaker 2>that bears no resemblance to older generations. This is why

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<v Speaker 2>we've actually seen unless for elections, soaring youth voter turnout,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly during the midterms, record levels of youth voting, Which

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean it's completely wrong that midterm voters may be

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<v Speaker 2>a bit more engaged and educated, but that's probably less

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<v Speaker 2>of a factor for young voters than it is for

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<v Speaker 2>older generations. Right, some of the conventional wisdom about who

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<v Speaker 2>votes when is not as accurate when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>younger people. This is not something that you can prove objectively,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's significant, sort of circumstantial evidence around this. Speaking

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<v Speaker 3>Dah and we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah. One of the overall points to make that

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<v Speaker 2>I think goes against this kind of panic a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people have that gen Z is somehow being like

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<v Speaker 2>pilled away from progressive politics is that as a result

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff primarily abortion, gen Z voters supported Democrats over

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans in the midterm elections by and astonishing twenty seven points.

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<v Speaker 2>This is again a large part of this came down

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<v Speaker 2>to abortion, which gen Z voters prioritize by a higher

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<v Speaker 2>amount than any other generation. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>was noted in one of the studies I found is

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<v Speaker 2>like a potential line of hope for Republicans is that

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<v Speaker 2>while this and this is part of where I think

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<v Speaker 2>some of the fear mongering and the these Washington Post

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<v Speaker 2>articles comes from, although I don't think it says what

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<v Speaker 2>they think. It says is that lower numbers of young

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<v Speaker 2>people support specific parties. Right, so only about thirty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of gen zs align with Democrats compared to twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>percent of Republicans. And if you just look at that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's way less of that seems like you're seeing like

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<v Speaker 2>these numbers sort of kind of tighten up. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>they still voted over Democrats of Republicans by twenty seven points.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that gen Z is less loyal to political parties,

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<v Speaker 2>which doesn't necessarily mean that progressivism is in danger just

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<v Speaker 2>means that most young people hate the Democrats too, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That could and the other thing is like the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that actually legit and I think this is legitimately. A

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<v Speaker 1>part of it is like, well, okay, so what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening to all those people? And the answer is

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<v Speaker 1>they're becoming socialists And it's like, well that doesn't help

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans either, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and it's it's I mean, part of it

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<v Speaker 2>is that more young people identify with like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>more politically radical chunks of progressivism. Part of it is

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot more of them identify as independent and

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<v Speaker 2>may not may not identify themselves super much as a

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<v Speaker 2>specific political chunk, but in general, like they vote progressive,

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<v Speaker 2>they just don't have any faith in like the ossified

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<v Speaker 2>political structures in our society, which is a rational thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do as a young person.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I also want to address kind of the elephant

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<v Speaker 2>in the room with this piece, which is that the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post editorial Board's obsession with political divide among the young,

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<v Speaker 2>harming marriage specifically, is also kind of gay panicky, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because one of the reasons why there seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>this divide that they see as like this threatens marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>is that a higher percentage of Gen Z kids are

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<v Speaker 2>less interested in straight marriage. And these gen Z kids,

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<v Speaker 2>male and female, are not getting more conservative, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>also presumably not going to do the kind of marriage

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<v Speaker 2>that the Washington Post editorial board was right. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to quote from a Time magazine rite up here. In

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<v Speaker 2>late twenty twenty and early twenty twenty one, gen Z

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<v Speaker 2>was the only US generation in which a majority believed

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<v Speaker 2>there are more than two genders. As recently as the

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<v Speaker 2>first half of twenty twenty, this was a minority opinion

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<v Speaker 2>even among Gen zs, remarkable amount of change over just

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<v Speaker 2>six months. In contrast, there was only a small uptick

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<v Speaker 2>in this belief among older generations. That type of data

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<v Speaker 2>is finally available. Starting in June twenty twenty one, the

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<v Speaker 2>US Census Bureau offered four options on its Household Pulse

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<v Speaker 2>survey question about gender male, female, transgender, and none of

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<v Speaker 2>these The last a rough gage of those who identify

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<v Speaker 2>as non binary, gender fluid, or another gender identity.

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<v Speaker 4>With that more a terrible way of phrasing that court

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a great way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's better than nothing, but yeah, it's not God more

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<v Speaker 2>than With more than a million respondents, the survey is

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<v Speaker 2>large enough to provide accurate estimates. The results are clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Gen Z young adults are much more likely to report

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<v Speaker 2>identifying as either trans or non binary than other generations.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Only one out of a thousand boomers report they

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<v Speaker 2>are transgender one tenth of one percent. Twenty three out

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<v Speaker 2>of one thousand gen Z young adults two point three

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<v Speaker 2>percent identify as trans, twenty times more. By this estimate,

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<v Speaker 2>there are now more TRANSI young adults in the US

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<v Speaker 2>than the number of people living in Boston, which is

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<v Speaker 2>great because I have long felt that what we need

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<v Speaker 2>to do is arm trans people to take over the

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<v Speaker 2>city of Boston. I believe this for years, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think we can finally make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but here's the problem, though, you still have to

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<v Speaker 1>live in Boston afterward. Well, I guess we could take

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<v Speaker 1>the city.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Boston and live somewhere else and then sort of like, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can use from it, Yeah, presumably, yeah you could. You

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<v Speaker 2>could basically become like collectively the landlords of Boston and

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<v Speaker 2>then use it to afford rented in a better place.

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<v Speaker 4>This is viable, I believe. I believe in our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>So we can tell this and this will finally increase

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<v Speaker 2>gen z's like home ownership numbers. Right if collectively all

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<v Speaker 2>of the transnd non binary people own Boston. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a workable plan. I think I'm gonna continue that quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Fewer than one percent of boomers identify as non binary,

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<v Speaker 2>compared to more than three percent of gen Z young adults.

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<v Speaker 2>Combined with the more than two percent to our trans

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<v Speaker 2>that means one out of eighteen young adults identified as

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<v Speaker 2>something other than male or female in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty twenty two, which is again, it's not true

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<v Speaker 2>because half of Note that's not it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the time because again two percent are trans, which presumably,

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<v Speaker 2>based on this survey and how it's asked, presumably means

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<v Speaker 2>identifies either male or female, whereas three percent are non

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<v Speaker 2>binary of some sort, may not, may not identify as

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<v Speaker 2>either mail or It doesn't say that this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is not well written, but the data is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It suggests five to six percent of gen Z are

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<v Speaker 2>trans are non binary, which is a wild departure from

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<v Speaker 2>previous generations. Right, And also that's a significant chunk of

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<v Speaker 2>this these gen Z numbers that are not being included

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<v Speaker 2>in this Washington Post because presumably a decent chunk of

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<v Speaker 2>these people will want to get married.

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<v Speaker 4>They just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I identify in a way that the gen Z that

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington Post editorial board respects.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, one of the things that's interesting about this,

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<v Speaker 2>and contra to all this fearmongering about Andrew Tates destroying

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<v Speaker 2>all the men, is that male or female gen Z

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<v Speaker 2>and millennial voters overwhelmingly support LGBT rights more than they

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<v Speaker 2>support almost anything else. And this is consistent across the board,

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<v Speaker 2>and markedly higher than it is for other generations.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Presumably this seems to include even like more independent or

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<v Speaker 2>even more conservative gen Z and millennial voters.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, They're just.

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<v Speaker 2>Across the board less shitty on this, I'm guessing presumably

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of their friends are our trands or

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<v Speaker 2>non binary or just queer, and that that makes them

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<v Speaker 2>less bigoted about this stuff. And again doesn't really fit

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<v Speaker 2>into this this narrative. Right, And this is again part

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<v Speaker 2>of why I'm not as doomor about you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>this there's this big fear, oh, you know, progressives are

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<v Speaker 2>desert young people are deserting progressivism, which is going to

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<v Speaker 2>do must electorally, and I'm just not seeing that in

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, everything that's been going on with like the Biden

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<v Speaker 2>administration's you know, support of Israel certainly may and probably

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<v Speaker 2>will have an impact politically, but it's not necessarily, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not very clear, not a result of young people getting

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<v Speaker 2>pilled by Andrew Tate, Right, that's not why that's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's there's a thing I wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>with the Andrew Tate stuff too, because like everyone's treating

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<v Speaker 1>this as like a completely new phenomena and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>most of the people who are talking about this should

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<v Speaker 1>be old enough to remember gamer Gate, Like this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>has all happened before, and it was like, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>gamer Date did produce a bunch of fascists and also

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<v Speaker 1>the millennials were still unbelievably further left than like the

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<v Speaker 1>generations that came before them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so like it's like this is this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this is just a thing, Like every generation has

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<v Speaker 1>a a giant thing where there's like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>right wing like yeah, push yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like this just happens periodically it's just like

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<v Speaker 4>a part of it. It's a part of Baltics. It sucks,

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<v Speaker 4>it's bad, but it's also like not a thing to

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<v Speaker 4>be humored about. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think another thing that is happening here is

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<v Speaker 2>that the kind of people who become members of the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post editorial board have this, have this brainworm, the

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<v Speaker 2>sickness that infects members of the American media worse than

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<v Speaker 2>almost anyone else, which is like they're always looking for ah,

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<v Speaker 2>contrary to popular wisdom. You think this, but the reality,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's Malcolm Gladwell syndrome, right where you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to come up with some like clever thing that

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<v Speaker 2>shows that you're smart because you know, buy into the

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<v Speaker 2>standard wisdom, which is always wrong. And there's that, and

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<v Speaker 2>so that they have to believe that whatever is really

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<v Speaker 2>happening is the opposite of what's obviously happening, right, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why this Actually young men are getting more conservative,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's I'm the only one who realizes, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to warn every one of the danger to marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which, here's a quote another quote from that

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post article. In another era, political or ideological differences

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<v Speaker 2>might have had less impact on marriage rates, but increasingly

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<v Speaker 2>the political is personal. A twenty twenty one survey of

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<v Speaker 2>college students found that seventy one percent of Democrats would

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<v Speaker 2>not date someone with opposing views. There is i'm logic

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<v Speaker 2>to this marriage across religious or political lines. If either

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<v Speaker 2>partner considers those things to be central with their identity,

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<v Speaker 2>can be associated with lower levels of life satisfaction, and

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<v Speaker 2>politics is becoming more central to people's identity. This mismatch

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<v Speaker 2>means that someone will need to compromise, As the researchers

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<v Speaker 2>Limonstone and Brad Wilcox have noted, about one in five

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<v Speaker 2>young singles will have little choice but to marry someone

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<v Speaker 2>outside of their ideological tribe. The other option is that

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<v Speaker 2>they decline to get married at all. Not an ideal

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<v Speaker 2>outcome considering the data showing that marriage is good for

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<v Speaker 2>the health of societies and individuals alike. And again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is only the case that one to five number is

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<v Speaker 2>ignoring queer people. Yeah, largely ignoring non white people, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just not accurate, Like, yeah, maybe a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more young white men are going to be single, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's problems that will occur due to that. Right because,

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<v Speaker 2>for one thing, that's the group that tends to like

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<v Speaker 2>load up on guns and shoot up public places, not

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<v Speaker 2>saying it's not a problem, but it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>our society is doomed because no one's getting married. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that there's some serious problems with young white men that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and there's there's there's two other things that

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<v Speaker 1>I think are interesting there. One is, Okay, you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell when these people like formed their political beliefs because

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<v Speaker 1>they're complaining about the personal is political, which is this

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<v Speaker 1>is ninety shit like that is that is like that

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<v Speaker 1>is like like old school ass like this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is like stuff people were like, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, uh, it's like political correctness where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's the previous version of the same panic that everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>having now, but this is from the nineties, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like all of these people are just like absolute

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaurs who they've like dragged out to write this like.

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<v Speaker 4>Weird fearmongering thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second thing is I think is interesting too

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<v Speaker 1>is like just the the deep, ingrained, sort of very

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<v Speaker 1>conservative assumption here, which is that marriage is good for society,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't think is anywhere near as straightforward a proposition,

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<v Speaker 1>as to Washington Post is making it seem like and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they have racistical arguments. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>cistics that I've seen, like you know, just just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of likeasistics that I've seen based on American society is

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<v Speaker 1>that like, women who aren't married are way happier than

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<v Speaker 1>they are in marriages, and you know, like men do worse.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, you know, but like I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of these things there's like we don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>there has not been a version of America where we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't where the institution of marriage wasn't like our thing

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't existed for like two or three hundred years.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington Post doesn't know what an American society without,

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<v Speaker 1>like where people don't get married. Looks like like they

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea, but they're just sort of assuming that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the apocalypse because they're weird conservatives in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a lot of I mean, and again, a

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<v Speaker 2>massive part of what's we're seeing here is less it's

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<v Speaker 2>objectively good, like marriage is the result of all of

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<v Speaker 2>these kind of positive mental health outcomes and more well,

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<v Speaker 2>when people are like have relationships and loved ones and

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<v Speaker 2>like a family system supporting them. They're less likely to

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<v Speaker 2>commit suicide, they're more likely to have someone notice if

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<v Speaker 2>they take ill. They're just like healthier in general. But

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean that it's marriage specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>and more like yeah, not being alone. Right, Yeah, Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to continue and just kind of go through.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've trashed this article enough, but I did

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<v Speaker 2>find a lot of interesting stuff about gen Z and

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<v Speaker 2>young voters that I wanted to get into. But first,

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<v Speaker 2>here's some more fucking ads. You pigs, you filthy mongrels.

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<v Speaker 2>Slop it up, suck it down. Anyway, we'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Minute, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>So one interesting thing I found. I tried to stick

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<v Speaker 2>to just stuff from like twenty twenty one or later

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<v Speaker 2>for this, in part because of the Andrew Tait of it.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, I wanted to like try to find stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that was like, Okay, since that guy came onto the scene,

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<v Speaker 2>has there been some sudden shift because people treat him

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<v Speaker 2>like the pied piper of fucking fascism, which, again, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a problem, but I don't think that's broadly accurate. So

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<v Speaker 2>one of the studies I found was a twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one survey from MTV AP and o RC right, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was interesting because it showed something I didn't real

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<v Speaker 2>something I had kind of bought into, was at least

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<v Speaker 2>less supported by the evidence than I might have thought,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like the level of Doumerism and young people politics.

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Gen Z actually shows optim like that they are more

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic than a lot of older people, both in the

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<v Speaker 2>state of the world and their role in improving it.

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Two thirds of gen Z feels like their generation is

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<v Speaker 2>motivated to make positive change in the country. Part of

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<v Speaker 2>I think where we get some of the feelings of

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<v Speaker 2>dumerism is that only about fourteen percent think that they

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<v Speaker 2>can have an impact on what the government does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that isn't higherly reasonable assessment of I

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<v Speaker 1>mean just like looking at polling data on Palestine or like.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely no, we had a very rational take actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's like we had we had an entire uprising,

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<v Speaker 1>like people people fought the Secret Service at the gates

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>of the White House, and the product of it was

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the government was like, no, we should give more money

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<v Speaker 1>to cops. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>like defunding the New York Public Library System to buy

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<v Speaker 1>encrypted radio like things for police units. Like it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is objectively true that you have very little

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<v Speaker 1>influence over the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a perfectly reasonable thing to say. Yeah, but yeah

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<v Speaker 2>about uh it is interesting too. Another thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of surprised me. It's about half of Gen

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<v Speaker 2>Z people think their standard of living is better than

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<v Speaker 2>their parents, but about half also think that the world

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<v Speaker 2>their generation is facing is worse than what most other

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<v Speaker 2>people most other generations have dealt with. So like they

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<v Speaker 2>think that their problems are are worse than like what

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<v Speaker 2>boomers and Gen X and millennials we're dealing with, but

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<v Speaker 2>they think they're about half of them think they're living

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<v Speaker 2>better lives. This is pretty similar to how millennials feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Gen X feels very different. Gen X or is the

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<v Speaker 2>most pessimistic generation about the state of the world, which

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<v Speaker 2>actually makes kind of sense if you realize that like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Gen Z kids are the children of

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<v Speaker 2>Gen X people, right, So like they think their standard

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<v Speaker 2>of living is better than their parents because Gen X

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<v Speaker 2>is miserable. Yeah, which you know, interesting. Gen Z and

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<v Speaker 2>Millennials are more accepting than Gen X of depictions of

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<v Speaker 2>same sex couples in media, and hold more positive views

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<v Speaker 2>of LGBT people, which again, Gen X is the worst generation.

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<v Speaker 2>We all have to agree on that one.

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<v Speaker 4>Just terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It really really didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 4>In two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>Were just a disaster, calamity, calamity. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of break down some stuff from this survey that

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting, just kind of on how the generations support

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<v Speaker 2>various policies. So, in terms of their support for prohibiting

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<v Speaker 2>work place discrimination on the basis of gender identity, sixty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent of Gen Z and sixty two percent of

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>millennials support that, only fifty three percent of Gen X does,

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 2>which is still actually not like a massive gap, right

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to this is interesting when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to requiring Americans to mask in public places like stores

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<v Speaker 2>and restaurants, fifty four percent of millennials support that, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three percent of Gen X do but does, but fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent of Gen Z does, which is all potentially

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<v Speaker 2>within kind of a margin of err, yeah, that's us

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<v Speaker 2>like noise, Like, yeah, that might just be noise. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about equivalent, right, It's pretty most of this is actually

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<v Speaker 2>pretty for all of our shitting on gen X, most

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<v Speaker 2>of this is actually pretty close. For acquiring vaccinations, Millennials

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<v Speaker 2>seem to support it higher than anyone else forty nine percent,

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z at forty three percent, which is significant. Kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gen X is right in the middle at forty

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<v Speaker 2>five When it comes to supporting a nationwide ban on

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<v Speaker 2>air fifteens and other similar semi automatic rifles, gen Z

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<v Speaker 2>and gen X are at forty two percent for gen

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<v Speaker 2>X forty four percent for GIN, whereas millennials are at

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven percent. Now, a lot of this breakdown, because

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<v Speaker 2>I dug into the actual numbers, is the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>men and women, and conservative men and liberal women right

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<v Speaker 2>who are liberal women are a lot more common and

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<v Speaker 2>more likely to support these kinds of bands, whereas conservative

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<v Speaker 2>men aren't, But that drags the overall numbers down. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just interesting to me that there seems to be less

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<v Speaker 2>support with gen Z over that they're closer to gen X.

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<v Speaker 2>Increasing security at the border fifty This is where there's

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<v Speaker 2>a huge gap. Fifty five percent of gen X for

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<v Speaker 2>increasing border security. Millennials and gen Z are at thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight and thirty seven percent. So that's really like gen

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<v Speaker 2>X really seems to buy into the we need more

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<v Speaker 2>border security, whereas de utes are like, no, fuck that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Gen X or gen Z and millennials both tied at

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight percent support for a universal basic income. Only

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six percent of gen X supports this, again, another

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<v Speaker 2>significant gap. One interesting thing is that gen X and

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<v Speaker 2>millennials at eight and thirty six percent support reducing regulations

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<v Speaker 2>on businesses. Only thirty one percent of gen Z supports this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a significant difference. I find that kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wonder how much of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Also is just like like like you are okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>are in, You're a zumer, You're never are you over

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<v Speaker 1>owning a business?

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<v Speaker 2>Like first off, thank you? I under what circumstances I

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<v Speaker 2>think it may it may be and I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that this has been studied. It may be

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<v Speaker 2>that because gen Z are so so many of them

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<v Speaker 2>want to be influencers to do some other kind of

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<v Speaker 2>job and like internet content creation that and a lot

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>of them have done kind of work, made some amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money in that field that tends to be independent

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>contractor work. And there's some pretty onerous tax regulations. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've ever been an independent contract about how you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to pay taxes, it may have something to do

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<v Speaker 2>with that. I don't know though, Like I this hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been broken down like granularly that I've seen, but I

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>did find that kind of entry. And then here's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of depressing but interesting reducing funding for law enforcement agencies.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty four percent of millennials support that. Thirty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>gen Z supports that, which is enough of a gap

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>to suggest like might be somewhat less popular among gen

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Z the millennials. Only eighteen percent of gen X feels

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the same, which is a huge gap, and that is

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting to me. So yeah, yeah, well that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think There's one I think there's one like last

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting thing about this is that those numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers on like police funding and a lot of

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the sort of like if you just look at the

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<v Speaker 1>graphs that were in the Washington Post article, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that is it looks a lot like there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a giant spike dream the uprising, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like tails off after it. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that I think is like like that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, you know, And this is I think a

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think is kind of important is like this,

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff is all malleable, and moment something happens, everyone,

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>everyone's beliefs change really quickly. Yeah, and that's the thing,

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and like like that, that's that's the thing with these

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like you know, with with the sort of

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Juambers and right Andrew Tates like yeah, like but people,

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<v Speaker 1>people's actual political beliefs and what they're willing to do

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>for them can change very very very quickly in moments

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>where they're sort of you know, I mean there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people getting shot by cops in the

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<v Speaker 1>street right right like that that that changes people really

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why the gap is so high

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<v Speaker 2>both between overall Americans, which are at twenty eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>for defunding police, and between Gen X and Gen Z millennials.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a lot more Gen Z millennials people got

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<v Speaker 2>like beaten by the cops in twenty twenty, and that

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>this does show well, again it's an uphill battle. Most Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>a super majority of Americans do not support that way.

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 2>More young Americans do, and it's probably because so many

0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>of us got our asses, yecked.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also I want to like, like, like if

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at what was like the numbers dream

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<v Speaker 1>the uprising, right, like the number of people who supported

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the burning of the third presink was like fifty percent. Yeah,

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>so like these are things that change really quickly in

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<v Speaker 1>the moments too, and now we're in the sort of

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>long backlash and that's you know, and that's that's driving

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like some of these numbers. But yeah, yeah, like don't it,

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>don't don't be cynical things. Things can and will get better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes they will, and they there's a pretty dramatic difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it'll take a couple more of the general uprisings

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<v Speaker 2>where people get they're natiskick, which is not great to

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 2>think about, but like, these are pretty stark differences in

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<v Speaker 2>the generations, and I think that that's kind of worth

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<v Speaker 2>noting and I don't know, celebrating maybe the wrong term,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think it's pessimistic now in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that is pessimistic. I want to end on a

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<v Speaker 2>note of like where I kind of think some of

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<v Speaker 2>the lazy, dumb ass pundit brain on this is coming from,

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<v Speaker 2>and I maybe I'm wrong about this. But I have

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<v Speaker 2>a little conspiracy theory that involves AI because I did

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<v Speaker 2>kind of at the end of digging up a bunch

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>of these studies, reading through I don't know, like fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>articles or whatnot, and you know, the actual like entirety

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 2>of three or four different big surveys, I decided just

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<v Speaker 2>to hop onto one of the AI search engines that

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 2>I use occasionally that is usually not helpful, just to

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<v Speaker 2>see what it said. And I asked, like, what is

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<v Speaker 2>the most recent data on how young gen z men

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<v Speaker 2>are voting right? And it gave me mostly useless shit,

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Like the resources were bad. But one of the things

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that said, because it breaks down the different sources and

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>like summarizes them for you. So it says here the

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Atlantic is kind of one of the sources. It recommends

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<v Speaker 2>the Atlantic Reporter that gen Z and millennials are more

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>likely to vote Republican. This could indicate a shift in

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>political leadings among these demographics. Now, the article that it

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>is linking there is an article called is gen Z

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>coming for the GOP? Not all young people are Democrats?

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<v Speaker 2>By Ronald Brownstein, And it does not say that, It

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<v Speaker 2>does not say anything like that. It certainly does not say,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will tell you what it fucking says, right,

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 2>because it's wildly fucking different. An analysis of previously unpublished

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<v Speaker 2>election data from Catalyst, a democratic targeting firm, by Michael

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>pod Orzer, a former political director for the AFLCIO, shows

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<v Speaker 2>that even the emergence of these new voters may not

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 2>break the larger political stalemate that has partitioned the country

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>in a seemingly immovable blocks of bread and blue states.

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<v Speaker 2>Podewzer's analysis of the Catalyst data, shared exclusively with The Atlantic,

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<v Speaker 2>found that over the past four elections, gen Z voters

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<v Speaker 2>have broken heavily for Democrats and blue states and provided

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the party's solid margins and closely contested swing states. But

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>in red states with a few prominent exceptions, Podhorzer surprisingly

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 2>found that even gen Z voters are mostly supporting Republicans. Now,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 2>when you dig into the data, first off, that does

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>not show that gen Z people are voting more for Republicans.

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>It's the opposite of that. The vast majority of them

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<v Speaker 2>are voting for Democrats, but in red states the number

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not finding in red states that gen Z

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<v Speaker 2>are more likely to support Republicans than previous generations. They

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<v Speaker 2>are more progressive than previous generations. They're just still majority

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<v Speaker 2>supporting Republicans in deep red states. Now again, if you

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<v Speaker 2>read that quote, it's also saying there are some red

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<v Speaker 2>states where gen z are voting overwhelmingly for Democrats, and

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<v Speaker 2>in purple states they are wildly progressive compared to previous generations.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, again the opposite of what that AI summary

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<v Speaker 2>is wondering how many lazy pundits are doing this because

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<v Speaker 2>they suck at shit and we're just like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the Atlantic says they're more republican. It's like, no, if

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<v Speaker 2>you read the article, it does not say that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good article.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and this is actually there's one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to mention about that polling data too, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that the twenty twenty two election was really weird because

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty two election was supposed to be it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be a red wave election, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there actually was one, but it was it only happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened in deep red states. Yes, and it happened

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. And that that has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the New York media market, which is part of also

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<v Speaker 1>why all these people's brains have been completely destroyed. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't actually like it's actually genuinely unclear to

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<v Speaker 1>me that this is even predictive of how those same

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<v Speaker 1>people in deep red states are going to vote in

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<v Speaker 1>like the next like four to eight years, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was because again this this this, this was a mid

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<v Speaker 1>term election with a Democratic president. That is, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to have the opposition like win a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>seats and stuff like that, and like it didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>the way it was supposed to and so and so

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's actually even that part is more is

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<v Speaker 1>more like even the tiny note of it where they're

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<v Speaker 1>like more like gen Z people voted Republicans, Like I,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't even know if that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hold in the long run now, but all of these

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<v Speaker 1>pun like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the fact that they probably are just reading.

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<v Speaker 2>AIS, Yeah, I wonder just like coming across that dog

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 2>shit suthing like just completely wrong, very funny, made me

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<v Speaker 2>feel a little bit better about the computers coming for us.

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<v Speaker 2>All made me feel a little bit worse about the

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence of pundits. But yeah, it's you know, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that is kind of if you're concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty twenty four. That is a worthwhile concern, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is a real problem is that while young people

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<v Speaker 2>are overwhelmingly progressive as voters, this is not evenly distributed

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<v Speaker 2>across the country, and a lot of the gains in

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<v Speaker 2>voters that progressives have seen are going to be clustered

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<v Speaker 2>in states that were already overwhelmingly blue, and when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to an a presidential election, those are wasted votes, right,

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>And a lot like that this and this is a

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<v Speaker 2>problem that the Republicans dealt with a lot during the

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<v Speaker 2>Obama years, right where there would be massively more Republican voters,

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<v Speaker 2>but they would be clustered in these areas that dims

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<v Speaker 2>were never going to win, and so it didn't help

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<v Speaker 2>them electorally.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That is kind of worth noting. It's potentially a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Although a lot of the gains when people are freaking

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<v Speaker 2>out about like, oh, you know, Biden's numbers among non

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 2>white voters have gotten worse, that is probably true, almost

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<v Speaker 2>certainly true to some extent, But a lot of those

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<v Speaker 2>vote gains are clustered in areas that were so heavily

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<v Speaker 2>read it may not have any impact on the health.

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<v Speaker 4>Of all electorals.

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<v Speaker 2>The one.

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<v Speaker 1>The one place for that matter, actually does matter is Michigan, yesca.

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<v Speaker 1>And Michigan has his huge Muslim population who are unbelievably

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<v Speaker 1>pissed at Biden for you know, offering them the deal

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to murder your family and also you have

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for us, which is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm not doing the Will Stancil thing and saying

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<v Speaker 4>there's nothing worry about. No, I'm saying there are places

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<v Speaker 4>where it does matter yere.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, yeah, yeah, it's unclear, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>what may be happen, well, a lot of what is

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<v Speaker 2>certainly happening, although this doesn't mean that there won't be

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<v Speaker 2>because I think there's a good chance there will be

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<v Speaker 2>an electoral impact. But a lot of what is objectively happening,

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<v Speaker 2>both on the left and the right, is increasing numbers

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<v Speaker 2>of voters who are in states that would never, never

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in play electoral Yeah, right, the electoral

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<v Speaker 2>college is bullshit, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like like I've I've lived in Illinois my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not possible for me to cast a vote

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<v Speaker 1>that matters. Yeah, Like it just isn't. It's just how

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<v Speaker 1>the system works, right, It's like it's a great great,

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<v Speaker 1>great job, great job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he wrote the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Uh, I think that's that's about enough to

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<v Speaker 2>get into. I hope this has been edifying and useful

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<v Speaker 2>to people. Uh Mia, you got anything else to say

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<v Speaker 2>before we roll out here?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Molotov twenty twenty four, just like Molotov twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, don't the Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to close in the note that the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Post editorial board managed to find the one socialist in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire US who's anti abortion maker, a stat maker,

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<v Speaker 1>a writer for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So last yeah, but who are you speaking for? Why

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<v Speaker 2>is it important that we have this voice of a

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<v Speaker 2>person like fucking hell?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>God, it's tiring. Speaking of tiring, I'm tired. So now

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<v Speaker 2>we're done. Goodbye.

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