1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Talking to Death is released weekly every Wednesday and brought 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: to you absolutely free. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: But if you want at free. 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Listening and exclusive bonuses, subscribe to Tenderfoot Plus at tenderfootplus 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: dot com or on Apple Podcasts. 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: Talking to Death is a production of tenderfoot TV and 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 3: iHeart Podcasts. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 4: Listener discretion is advised. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Hello, this is Talking to Death. I'm your host, Payne Lindsay. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: If you're unfamiliar with some of. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: My other work, I've been a true crime podcaster since 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: around twenty sixteen. If you're into the true crime thing, 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: you might know Up and Vanished or Atlanta Monster. If 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: you're into the weirder shit paranormal, I have a show 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: called Radio Rental and High Strange about UFOs and really 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: I've been an unofficial investigative journalist for about seven years 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: and I've had the chance to go all over the place. 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: I've met hundreds of people from all different walks of life, 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: and I've always wanted to do a show where I 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: could just pull the curtain back a little bit and 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: talk about some of these experiences and share some of 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: the really cool, inspiring people that I've been able to 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: meet throughout my career and hopefully will continue to meet 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: as different as we all are, which is. 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: More apparent than ever. 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: It seems like sometimes I've learned that there are really 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: more similarities between us than anything else. And even if 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: I don't agree with you, there's a commonality that I 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: think that we all have in some way, shape or 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: form that feels good to share and connect with. So 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 1: in this show, I'm going to simply talk with people 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: that I know or I look up to, or just 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: responded to one of my dms because I'm a fan 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: of ars, and we're just gonna shoot the shit. We're 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: gonna talk you to death like that pun Mike is 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: that it's pretty good, right. 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 5: I think you miss an opportunity. Could have been talking 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 5: to pain. 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's horrible. That's uh. 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: See, this is Mike, by the way. He'll be here 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: sometimes most of the time. Actually, Mike is my best friend. 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: He is usually somewhere behind the scenes on anything that 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: I'm doing, whether it's Up and Vanished or this show, 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: and he'll be in the room every time that I'm 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: talking to a guest. So when my ADHD brain kicks 46 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: in and I forgot everything we're doing today, He's the 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: guy who will say, hey, like remember like. 48 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: This is what they said. 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I don't seem like an asshole. But yeah, 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: that's Mike. He might say something, he might never say something. 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully he never says anything. That was your time to 52 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: say something. But well it's for the best if I do. 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, but. 54 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is talking to death and I'm exed. Decided 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: to just share some candid interviews with people that I 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: know and maybe we all learned something. Maybe it's just 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: a good time. Maybe you hate this and you're never 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: listening to this shit ever. Again, that's okay, because I 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: at least got you right here. Today's guest is someone 60 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: who I grew up watching on TV. 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: His name is Steve O. 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: If you don't know who STEVEO is, there was a 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: very popular show on MTV back in the day called Jackass. 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: They since made several movies that were in theaters. It's 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: a huge franchise. It's a bunch of guys doing wild, 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: crazy shit franks that are funny, gross, absurd, you name it. 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: But I grew up watching this show and I remember 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: when my grandpa gave me a VHS camera for Christmas 69 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: one year and the first thing I did was start 70 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: filming stuff inspired by Jackass. They had this iconic warning 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: in the beginning of every episode that said something like, warning, 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, these. 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: Are trained professionals, don't try this at home. 74 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: First thing we did was absolutely try this at home, 75 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: and not to their degree. But you know what could 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: we get away with as a sixth grader seventh grader 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: that we thought was funny And we played back to 78 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: our parents and they said, maybe we should have never 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: got paid that camera. Right, This is a guy who 80 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: always cracked me up watching his stunts, watching his movies, 81 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: a guy who's really kind of known for being wild 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: and crazy. 83 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: Right. 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: And I'd never met STEVEO in person until recently during 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: this interview, and I was really blown away by how 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: sincere and candid he was with us about his life, 87 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: his mental health, you know, his goals, how he got here, 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: how he views this, just everything that you would think 89 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: would be a deeper subject that. 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: May not be in his wheelhouse. 91 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: He proved all of us wrong on that, and I 92 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: thought he was a really genuinely good person. And I 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: learned a lot about just you know, what makes Steve 94 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: otick and even found some similarities in myself, not on 95 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: the wild pranks tip, but just sort of the risk 96 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: taking that he has and this sort of innate desire 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: to create and keep going. It's just kind of part 98 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: of his being which I definitely could relate to. I 99 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: highly suggest that you watch the video version of this too, 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: if you're not already watching it on YouTube. We'll be 101 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: posting the full episodes of this show on YouTube. 102 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: The easiest way to get to it is just. 103 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Go to Talking to Death podcast dot com and that'll 104 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: link you right to the episodes. If you want to 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: watch clips and more behind the scenes stuff, you can 106 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: go to the Instagram which is simply Talking to Death 107 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: and the TikTok Talking to Death podcasts, which I hate 108 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: that these are all different, but there is someone who 109 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: is just camped out on the Talking to Death TikTok account. 110 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: The two followers are me and one of my other 111 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: show's accounts. I can't message them because we're not friends. 112 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: It's not as sexy, but you know, I'm trying to 113 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: get the user name. It's a it's a small gripe. 114 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: This is the kind of shy you don't realize happens 115 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But yeah, I'm going to talk you 116 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: to death metaphorically. I hope you don't die of boredom. 117 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: If you do, at least finish the first episode and 118 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: then die, because I think it's worth watching to the 119 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: end because it was Steve O. 120 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: I wanted to do something a little crazy. 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, crazy for me, you know, so we had 122 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: this idea on the plane flying to LA you know what, 123 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: could we do some sort of stunt or something that, 124 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he'll bite on at the end of 125 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: the episode, something fun and whatever. 126 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: We had an idea. 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to spoil it for you yet because 128 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin that part of the episode. 129 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: But if you watch to the very end, you'll see 130 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: Steve O complete a stunt for us, and I think 131 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: it's totally worth it, and there is permanent evidence of 132 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: what happened. At the end of every episode, I'll do 133 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: some post thoughts just like this right here, where I'll, 134 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, either explain more about what happened, or give 135 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: you my two cents, or just say something done before 136 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: I tell you to go follow our social media accounts 137 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: or something. But without further ado, this is episode one 138 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: of Talking to Death and our guest is Steve O. 139 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: I'm a true crime guy. Like all I watch on YouTube, 140 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: I mean my YouTube feed. 141 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Is just like, all right, what's it fool with? Give 142 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: me an example, interrogation rare. Are you watched like the 143 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: killers being interrogated by the cops and the interrogation they're 144 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: pretty good? Yeah, mind game stuff going on? 145 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean basically the story of murder cases and 146 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: like with with with emphasis on the you know, the 147 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: suspect in the interrogation room like being you know, grilled 148 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: with the read technique and yeah, like I just you know, 149 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm basically like true crime murder documentaries on YouTube. 150 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: Why do you like that stuff? 151 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just like just fascinated. I think it's 152 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: the stakes of it. 153 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: It's just such a yeah. Does it get much higher 154 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: than this? Right? 155 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: Yeah? Such I stakes. 156 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 3: And every time I talk about this, I always want 157 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: to shout out the gold standard on YouTube for this 158 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: crime and crime and punishment genre. It's called j CS 159 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: with standards. The one you watch, Yeah, that is the 160 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: gold standard. 161 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: That's the best. 162 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: He gets all the tape to right, he gets all that, 163 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: it seems smiling ya. He showed me that one time. 164 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: He's watched all that is. 165 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: Read single video on JCS Criminal psych Coology. That's the 166 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: actual j CS Criminal Psychology. 167 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 4: It's it's the best channel. 168 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 5: Do you know what j c S stands for? 169 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: Jim can't swim. 170 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: So random before it got popular, He's like that will work. 171 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: I mean, dude, there are channels that that just rake 172 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: in millions of views because they they call their videos 173 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: j CS inspired. Really just like a whole all genres 174 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: is called j CS inspired. That good, okay, and and 175 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: the videos are just so precious, few and far between. 176 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: You know, I don't I just don't understand it. 177 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: But like I'll send out like mass email or as 178 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: mass text threats. 179 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: New j CS video all caps expl you know, I've 180 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: I've seen a tweet. 181 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: You know, there's been a I mean, it's not a 182 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: channel that it makes any sense to collab with, right, 183 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: you did, because they don't do interviews, you know, like 184 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm not a murderer, and. 185 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: You know, there's this profound. 186 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: Respect and and there was some some profound appreciation expressed. 187 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: I decided to leave that. And then there's there's after 188 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: j C has. 189 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: There really are just uh just sort of you know, 190 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: kind of distant. You know, filling out the top ten. 191 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: I would say stay Awake is really good. Stead Awake 192 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: channel all caps, one word stay awake. 193 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: I get excited for a wake upload. 194 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. So there's one called Explore with Us 195 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: or something that one's good. 196 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: Not always like like not not batting a thousand, but 197 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: man e wu blew my mind. 198 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: The other night they that channel. 199 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: And here's the thing, too, is that I don't have 200 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: like the attention span for like really long YouTube videos, 201 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: like I like my murders like twenty minutes and I'm out, 202 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: you know, maybe twenty five, but like you know, if 203 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: you can't pack a murder into twenty five doing it. 204 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: Wrong, you know, then I'm out. 205 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: But when you watch YouTube on through the TV set, 206 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: you know, like actually like then it auto plays without 207 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: any kind of a timecode. 208 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 4: You don't see the thumbnail. 209 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: So you forget what how much time is passing? Right? 210 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: And so I'm. 211 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: Watching a murder that I chose to watch deliberately, and 212 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: then it it ends I'm in bed with my girl 213 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: and the next murder comes on. 214 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 4: No thumbnail, no. 215 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: Time sounds like you're watching snuff films. 216 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no thumbnail, no timecode, and we just started watching 217 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: this one. 218 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: This sixteen year old girl named me Kayla was very 219 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: very solved. 220 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: I want that Saturday annoying that you don't know. 221 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: I want that. I want to know that that bastard. 222 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, they what was so great about this this one? 223 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: Uh? It was on Explore with. 224 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: Us and every one of the interrogations was filmed just 225 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 3: in high res up close. They interviewed the boyfriend, who 226 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 3: is always the first suspect, then the ex boyfriend. 227 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: You kind of I didn't even realize. 228 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: At one point I hit pause because I had to 229 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: go pee and I don't want to miss you know, 230 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: what's what's going on? And I realized when I hit pause, 231 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 3: that's when the time code shows up. 232 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: This is an hour and a half. 233 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: Long murder damn. 234 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm and I'm committed. I'm like I'm 235 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: I'm in. 236 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: And and uh, I'm like, wow, I can't believe it. 237 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 3: And by the time that one was over. Okay, the 238 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: title of this particular video and they give away too 239 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: much on the thumbnail and uh, and the title I 240 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: would criticize that it was called uh like father sickened 241 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: by son's confession. 242 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: Okay, well, we know what happened though. 243 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's a twist that comes in after we 244 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: learned that. 245 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm talking about. 246 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: I haven't seen that one. Oh my god, I need 247 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: to catch up. Oh no, they could have. 248 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 3: And I gotta believe Explore with us is hearing my feedback. 249 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 4: This was the most ex. 250 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: This was the most explosively like mind blowing twist at 251 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: the end of this case. It just I don't think 252 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 3: it needed to be an hour and a half. 253 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 4: I think you. 254 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 3: Could have tightened it up. I watched the whole thing. 255 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. 256 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: I just think show I guess, right, I guess. 257 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: I'm not complaining about exploring this. They're just not batting 258 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: a thousand and sometimes they could. 259 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: Tighten it up. J CS. Not a frame can be criticized. 260 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: Damn, that's respect right there. 261 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 4: It is. I mean, dude, it is like gold Standard 262 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: doesn't even do the trick. It's so good, it's so good, 263 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: And and he never misses. J C has never misses 264 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: miss Oh my god, it's so good. 265 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: I'd be there, you go. J C has criminal psychology. 266 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: There's not even that many videos on the channel. There's 267 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 3: not that many, and every single one of them. How 268 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: about the one about the m M A guy. 269 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he had some weird name like the Machine 270 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 5: or something like that. 271 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,359 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 272 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Okay. 273 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: So in any case, the most surprising confounding thing about 274 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: all of these murderers when they're on trial, when they're 275 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: is that I think think one hundred percent of the time, 276 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: it is so important to the murderer to get the 277 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: death penalty off the table. 278 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: They want to stay alive, they want to. 279 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: Let They're like anything but the death penalty. 280 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'm just going to take the death penalty. 281 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: It sounds it sounds so backwards to me. 282 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: Ever, well, I think that that it is the ultimate 284 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: catch twenty two of the human experience. 285 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: Like I believe that the human experience is like. 286 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: A very cruel prank on us because we have one instinct, 287 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: which is to survive at all costs, and these murderers 288 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: are proof of it. 289 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: At all costs. 290 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: We must survive, but we only have one guarantee, which 291 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: is we're not going to survive. So like the one 292 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: thing that matters the most to us, you know, the 293 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: avoid dying, is the is the only thing that we 294 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: can be positive that we're. 295 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: The biggest we have usually. 296 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: Barreling towards the one thing we're most afraid of, that 297 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: is our condition in the human experience, and as we 298 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: barrel towards it, we wilt, our body deteriorates, we become 299 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: less appealing to our fellows, you know. Like I'm I'm 300 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: like really uh kind of like sort of hyper focused 301 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: on it because I am such a gnarly attention whore. 302 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: I just always have been. I just I just always 303 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: have been. 304 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: Man Like, the my overdeveloped need for attention is staggering. 305 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: I would go so far as to say that I 306 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: am a world class attention whore. 307 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, because it's like the lengths that I'm willing 308 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: to go to to become to make myself the center 309 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: of attention are like, it's pretty next level stuff. 310 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, where's that come from? 311 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I uh, I don't think you 312 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 4: have to be Sigamund Freud to. 313 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: Point to, you know, the lack of attention from my 314 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: uh my parents. 315 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 4: My dad was a. 316 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 3: Wildly successful corporate executive. I was six months old. My 317 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: dad was the president of Pepsi. 318 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: Cola in all of Brazil. 319 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 320 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 4: I was raised by maids. 321 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: So of my first words, I spoke in Portuguese because 322 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: my parents I was spending more time with the maids, like, 323 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: and they speak Portuguese. My my parents spoke English like Americans. 324 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: But I'm a baby talking in Portuguese because I get 325 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: no attention from my parents and my mom is like 326 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: super alcoholic, you know, like, so me added like and 327 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: then and then there's the fact that I grew up 328 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: in five different countries. 329 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: I was just I spoke three different. 330 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: Languages by the age of three and forgot two of 331 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: them completely by the age of five. I'm a citizen 332 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 3: of three different countries. That's wild because I was born 333 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: in England. My mom was born in Canada, which makes 334 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: me Canadian. 335 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: Do you have access to Canada through that? 336 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: My dad was born in America, So I've got a 337 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: British passport, a Canadian passport, and an American passport? 338 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: How about us? 339 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: Yeah? 340 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: And I grew I was born in England, like spoke 341 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: my forts words in Brazil, attended nursery school in Venezuela 342 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: kindergarten in Connecticut, like first grade through half of fourth 343 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: in Miami, second half of fourth grade through sixth grade 344 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: in London. 345 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 4: England, you all around. 346 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, never really planted for somewhere for too long. 347 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 348 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: I did seventh grade and half of eighth grade in 349 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: Canada yea, and then the second half of eighth grade 350 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: all the way through high school in London, England. 351 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: Again, so I was always in school. 352 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: And I mean, I don't know, like, I don't know 353 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: if any of that even like really informs why I 354 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 3: am the way I am. It. I'm sure factors in, right, 355 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: but suffices to say that that I've just got this crazy, 356 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: you know, attention seeking thing, and it's it's kind of 357 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: a blessing because when you get down to it, you know, 358 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: we deal in a very capitalistic commercial world, and one 359 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: could argue, if not just prove outright, that the most 360 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: valuable commodity known to man is attention. 361 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 4: Really, I mean think about it. Everything's driven by advertising. 362 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: These days more than ever, I would say, right, right. 363 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: I mean, like attention is I would I would guess 364 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: demonstrably the most valuable commodity known de mand. 365 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: So for someone like you, if if you go a 366 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: long time without attention or something, or like, is there 367 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: a time where you start to feel weird? I mean 368 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: that makes sense, like just like that. It's like a 369 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: way just like a I don't know. 370 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: It doesn't it totally makes sense. It's crazy. 371 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: It's crazy because now everybody's an attention horror, you know, 372 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: like I would. 373 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: I was like a kind of an outlier, you know, like. 374 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: Like you were the OG. 375 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 4: It was the nineteen eighties, dude. 376 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: Right, and we had really trying to get their attention. 377 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: I started skateboarding, you know, it's very seriously when I. 378 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: Was thirteen in nineteen eighty eight. 379 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 3: Wow, my buddies and I started playing with video cameras 380 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty nine, you know, like because that's what 381 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: skateboarders dom h And then if we and then I'm like, 382 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: whoa hold on a second here with video camera, I 383 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: can't edit out all the times that I didn't pull 384 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: off the trick. 385 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, after you edit, then it's like you 386 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 4: you landed everything. 387 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: So like that's a big how are you editing? Back? 388 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Then the two there's a VHS camera winding and stopping 389 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: and no. 390 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: You you plug two VCRs together, VCR meaning video cassette 391 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: recorder and on the first one you got your output 392 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: cables coming out of the first VCR and then they're 393 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: going into the input cables. On the second VCR, you 394 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: hit play on VCR number one, you hit record on 395 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: VCR number two, only recording where you make the trick 396 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: and you. 397 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: Keep it pause and then you and then that's how 398 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: that's how we did it. 399 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: And and in doing that, like what you are able 400 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: to create a version of events with which you manipulate 401 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 3: people's perception of you. You can control how people perceive you. 402 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: You made it look better. Yeah, and it was in 403 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: real life. You were doing it in that moment. 404 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: Right, And like, I mean to start out with an 405 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 3: overdeveloped concern for the opinions of others, an insatiable desire 406 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 3: to be the center of attention, like wow, Like and 407 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 3: I can control how people see what I want to 408 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: present them. 409 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 4: And then on top of that, like we're all going 410 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: to be dead. 411 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 3: Like where our instinct is to survive, but we're barreling 412 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: towards our demise. 413 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: We're all going to be. 414 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: Dead, but the videos will still have the capacity to 415 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 3: play after I'm deceased, So it's that important A hundred 416 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: I was like I had have like a religious attachment 417 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: to the video camera because it represented my way of 418 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: cheating death. 419 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: This was gonna make me immore. 420 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: Live on forever through this material. 421 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: And I thought I was going to be dead out 422 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: of having failed at life early because I couldn't I 423 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: couldn't graduate from school, I couldn't go to class in college, 424 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: couldn't keep a job, I got fired from everything, Like, 425 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 3: I couldn't see how it was going to work out 426 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: for me to support myself and survive in the world. 427 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I got to hurry up and make 428 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: the fucking craziest videos ever so that I can live 429 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: on after I'm. 430 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 4: Dead, Right, That's all I was in it for. Yeah, 431 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 4: It's all I was in it for. But but yeah, 432 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: D like you fucking live forever. 433 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: And then you know, its Noman attention core, And and 434 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: it turns out that I didn't die young. 435 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: I actually got. 436 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm surprised you drop missing like an arm or a 437 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: leg right, I. 438 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: Got the I got, I got all kinds of attention. 439 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 3: Turns out, and there's no amounts, it's enough. And it 440 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: also turned out very very tragically, that footage really isn't forever, 441 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: footage really isn't immortal. 442 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 443 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: As soon as Jackass comes out, I'm dealt the crushing 444 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: blow that. In fact, footage distinctly expires. 445 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: It has an. 446 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: Expiration date, which is the fucking moment. It's made public as. 447 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: Soon as as soon as. 448 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: Yeah once once it's fucking showed up on TV Ye, 449 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: it's a rerun. Yeah, it's expired rerun. That's what a 450 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: rerun is. 451 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: It's expired footage, stale yesterday's old news. And then and 452 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: then once, once your ship's expired, then you're only as 453 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: good as whatever your next offering is. 454 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: So it's like, what do you got next? So you're 455 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 4: in your life. 456 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: Because chasing that, Yeah, when did you realize that that 457 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: there was no amount of attention that you would get? 458 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: That solves the problem indefinitely. 459 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: Man, that's a tough question, right because, like I thought, 460 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: early on, you think that like it's more mythical and 461 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: magical than that, then you realize it's not. 462 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: It's deeper than that, actually, right right. 463 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: I would point to two thousand and six, when the 464 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: second Jackass movie came out. At that time, like nobody 465 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 3: was saying that these guys are like too old, you know, like. 466 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 4: We were still. 467 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: We were like old, we were like early thirties, right, 468 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: Maybe Notoxo is thirty five, right, you know, we were 469 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: still we were still at an age where people are 470 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: like champions in the UFC. 471 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: Right now, there's some badasses out there. 472 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: Right, and so like there wasn't like just that tinge 473 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: of it being you know, like not appropriate anymore, or 474 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 3: like these guys are too old and nobody was like 475 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: having interventions pulled on them. 476 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: We were like. 477 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 3: We were in our heyday of acting out sexually, of 478 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: abusing alcohol and drugs. 479 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: But there were no interventions. 480 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: There were There was no like, you know, we're getting 481 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: getting away with everything. Everything was just working for us, 482 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 3: and we were when we filmed that second Jackass movie, 483 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: like the risks were like. 484 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: Really gnarly. 485 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: I mean from a standpoint like put a hook through 486 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: my cheeks. 487 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: That was wild. 488 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like there was there was a type. 489 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: Just let me put the hook. 490 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean, dude, there's like there's a sharks going from 491 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: my foot and I'm like. 492 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: Like, are you actually scared? In that moment? 493 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I inadvertently kicked a mako shark in my head 494 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: and then like that was like the saving grace because 495 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 3: it was like going to bite my foot Jesus, you know, 496 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: and we're two hours away from the shore. 497 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: Right, like this gonna be bad. Actually there was a 498 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: leg out here. There's no plan you might die. 499 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, like like like. 500 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: There there is a ready to die Knoxios blindfolded standing 501 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: in front of a yack man you. 502 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: Know cigarette in the beginning. 503 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's the rocket thing where the rocket malfunctions. 504 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: And like that one was like myths. I feel like yeah, 505 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: I mean I don't. 506 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: Know, it's worse. It's like the close call when it 507 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: malfunctions or when it did what it was like, it 508 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: was all it was all bad, you know, like the 509 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: ready to. 510 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 3: Die factor in that movie. And we just got away 511 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 3: with everything. We got away with everything in our personal lives, 512 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: and we got away got away with everything in front 513 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: of the camera. Everything that we did in that movie 514 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: worked like and and once we put that movie together, 515 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean every Jackass movie, as soon as it was done, 516 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: was like sworn. 517 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: To be the last one. There was never supposed to 518 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: be a second one. Okay, it was like not so 519 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 4: sware that we're never like it's done, we're going out 520 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: on top. 521 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: Never and then it was like four years later, like hey, 522 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: we're gonna get the band back. 523 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 4: Together, you know. And but but it was understood this 524 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: is it. 525 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: It's you know, and even if it wasn't gonna be over, like, 526 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: there was no way that we were gonna top that 527 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: second one. Man, that Jackass number. 528 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 4: Two was the gnarliest, the nar like everything that was 529 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: just the Hey, that was the pinnacle. And I recognized 530 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: it at the time. 531 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: That was the pinnacle, and I was like, there's no 532 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: there's no way anything's. 533 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: Gonna it's just like that was what I was like. 534 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: It's all downhill from here, really, and I was I 535 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: really viewed that, and I think it's probably like this 536 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: is probably duche to compare, but I've heard Olympic athletes 537 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: say that it's understood that after training your whole life 538 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: to be an Olympian. 539 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 4: Like, what's substantially. 540 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: More devastating than failing is actually winning because when they 541 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: hang that one, when they hang that metal around. 542 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: Her neck, like it's like they're it's like they're hanging 543 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 4: the end of you. How many. 544 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: This is what I trained my whole life for and 545 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: now here I pulled it and then what do I 546 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: do after that? 547 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: It's like they done it? Now? Yeah. 548 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: The Man on the Wire who did the typewroping documentary, 549 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: it's like what about what's next after that? 550 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: You know? And I felt like that that was my moment. 551 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: Interesting. 552 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: I showed up to that Jack has No True premiere, 553 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: and I was just like, categorically, it's all downhill from here, 554 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: Like I like, this is it? And I remember, like 555 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: I was, I was in terrible shape with an addiction 556 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: to huffing nitrous oxide. 557 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: Yes, a little old doc a long time ago. Yeah, 558 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean that was what was that? 559 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: Like? 560 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 4: It was? 561 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: It was really really gnarly, Like there was even like 562 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: this crazy like countdown kind of a situation going on 563 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: with the this voices in my head and the like 564 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: spirits and the you know, it was. 565 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: It was just a gnarly situation. And I showed up. 566 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: I showed it up in a limo to the red 567 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: carpet premiere with. 568 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: My father, my sister, my four year old niece, she 569 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: was four at the time, doctor Drew Pinsky. 570 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: Doctor doctor and what was he doing there? 571 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: And Ron Jeremy. 572 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: I mean, just a weird night. 573 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 4: I like, I was just buddies with doctor Drew, like 574 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: I would guest host on Loveline sometimes. 575 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: So doctor Drew is in the limo, n I get 576 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: out of the limo, come come onto the red carpet. 577 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 4: And I just like I. 578 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: Just pulled out my wiener and and literally just stood 579 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: there pissing on the red carpet with all the flashbulbs 580 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: going off. I'm just urinating all over the red carpet. 581 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: Purpose Yeah, just like. 582 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: I meant to wild, I meant to do it. My 583 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: four year olds just sitting there, like my four year 584 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: old niece is do it. My dad is not even irate, 585 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: He's just like beyond somewhere to be like if if 586 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: disappointed could be seething, seeing disappointing more than yeah, like 587 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: seething and you know, and and I was like, I 588 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: think that just psychologically, I was just so mad at 589 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: that red carpet that just represented the last stop on 590 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: the glory train. 591 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: Wow, you know you felt like that in the moment. Yeah, 592 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: for sure, that's crazy. 593 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 4: I spun out of control, man, Like I was out 594 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 4: of control. 595 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: But like I just sp like I just spun out 596 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: of control so bad. 597 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 4: And that was two thousand and six. 598 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: I like, you know, come March of two thousand and eight, 599 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: like the wheels are off and I'm crashed and burned 600 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: and I'm in like the psychiatric ward and the rehab 601 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 3: and all that. Right, So to answer your question, when 602 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: do I feel weird when there's no attention? 603 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: Like it's. 604 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: It's like it's a dangerous game, particularly for me, like 605 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: the spotlight the attention like as a process of like. 606 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 4: Being in recovery as a drug addict and an alcoholic. 607 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: Like there's a real major like spiritual component to. 608 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 4: It, you know, like we got our higher power. 609 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: We've got like you know, like our spiritual practice, you know, 610 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: like our like I acknowledge all of our wrongs and 611 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: go to make them right, you know, like clean up 612 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: our side of the street, and like in all of that, 613 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: Like what's so important is to find separation between like 614 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: the attention warring the person like the professional like. 615 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: Does it good? Blurry? 616 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 4: Big time blurry, especially with podcasting, you. 617 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: Know, especially with podcasting podcasting just totally it's like right now. 618 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: For sure, you just new guests all the time. It's like, 619 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 2: who are you today? 620 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: What is this? 621 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: I'm only here because it's gonna get news right, right, 622 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: but but you're getting yeah right, and and like so 623 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 3: we're here like by definition, we're doing this for attention. 624 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: Right exactly. 625 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: But I'm speaking like as who I am you know, 626 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 3: so like this is like a hybrid there. 627 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 4: Is no separation. 628 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 2: Yah. 629 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: Now it's kind of all one thing right, right, And 630 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: do you have to work to get to that point 631 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: or were you towards that where it becomes like a 632 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: soul self of that where it's like, hey, I gotta 633 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: like be more whole or something. 634 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I just gotta figure out how to 635 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 3: be okay leg when it's all. 636 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: Done, you know, And is it ever done? You think? 637 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: I mean I do, I It's not done. It's just 638 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 4: gonna change. 639 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm like hyper focused on like the 640 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 3: getting older kind of a thing, like really like where 641 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 3: it's like. 642 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 4: The jackass stuff. 643 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: My identity is so kind of wrapped up in this 644 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 3: like adolescence, irresponsible, reckless, like it's a young miss stunts. 645 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: You know, our jackass shit is a young dude's game, right, 646 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 4: and we're not young anymore, you know. 647 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: Like attention warring is a young dude's game. And it's 648 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 3: so scary for me because the human condition, the human 649 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: experience is this impossible catch twenty two and nobody wants 650 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: to think about it. 651 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 2: Oh, like which part of it. 652 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to acknowledge? Or in any meaningful way consider 653 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: their own mortality. Nobody wants to think about it. Not 654 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 3: cool to bring it up, not cool to make people 655 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: think about the fact that they're going to be. 656 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 4: A popular people because it's a bummer. 657 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: People are. 658 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 4: Mortality is a bummer. It's a reality. But it's a 659 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 4: reality that bumps us out. We don't want to think 660 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 4: about it. 661 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: I had an experience in uh two thousand and one. 662 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 3: Jackass was was just you know, a new show on MTV. 663 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: I think it was in its second season. I was 664 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: helplessly addicted to cocaine and in Cancun, Mexico for Spring break. 665 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 2: Break had nothing to do with MTV. 666 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: It was there was a somewhat shady rave promoter from 667 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: Cleveland who had booked me to uh perform some silly shows, 668 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: do some personal appearance type stuff in kN Kun So 669 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 3: I was down there. I want to say, for like 670 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 3: a good couple of weeks in a row, every single 671 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: taxi driver in kN kun as I understand it doubles 672 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: as a cocaine dealer. 673 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: Really still, I think so, I think so, Yeah. 674 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 4: I think so. 675 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 3: If you ask your cab driver in Cocaine or in 676 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: king Kuon for cocaine. If they don't have it immediately 677 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,959 Speaker 3: under their driver's seat, they'll just go. 678 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 2: To the the nearest corner with their friend. 679 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a like there would be like a 680 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: little cab stop and they'll get it from another guy. 681 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: But in any case, it's pretty powerful cocaine in my 682 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: experience down there. So one night I was in my 683 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: hotel room totally by myself, you know, coming into the 684 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 3: next day like Super Bender, super super Binge. Like every 685 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 3: channel on the TV was doing live coverage of the 686 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: execution of the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVay. Okay, I 687 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: feel like it was even like in broadcast in Spanish 688 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: on some channels. But it was just like very striking 689 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: to me that this guy who blew up this federal 690 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 3: building in Oklahoma City, which which had a daycare center 691 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 3: in it. 692 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 4: I mean he like he's he. 693 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: Blew up the whole building, like all the babies in 694 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 3: the daycare center, the whole thing. 695 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 4: Like hundreds of. 696 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 3: People were killed in this in this act, and here 697 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: he is I'm in Mexico. Even on the Spanish speaking 698 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 3: stations in Mexico, like CNN, like all that events. 699 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 4: It was. 700 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 2: It was which is kind of weird, but yeah. 701 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 3: It was, and I was glued to it, like I 702 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: was absolutely fascinated. But of course I was just sitting there, 703 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: you know, high on cocaine and and uh, you know, 704 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 3: just but but the guy, in my view at that time, 705 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 3: was like the most famous guy on the planet. 706 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: And if I were to. 707 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 3: You know, I guess I don't even think I have 708 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 3: to guess. The guy was loving the attention. The guy 709 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 3: was loving the attention. I think I would categorize him 710 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 3: as somebody who didn't care if he's infamous, just wants. 711 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 4: To be known. 712 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 3: Ye, he was just loving the attention. And as it 713 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 3: all unfolded, he got his uh, he got his last meal. 714 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 3: He requested to have two tubs of mint chocolate chip 715 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: ice cream. 716 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: Just that. 717 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 4: I think that was it. 718 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: I think I. 719 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 3: Filmed that show yesterday. What do you mean They have 720 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 3: a show format called last Meal. 721 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 4: You can get them to make you anything. 722 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: They don't kill you, They just give your last Yeah, 723 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: your dream meal. You know you had your dream meal yesterday? 724 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 725 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 2: Okay, So what is it then? 726 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 4: I mean? 727 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 3: I had this baked corn snack from England called pickled 728 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 3: onion monster Munch, which I love I had a huge lobster, 729 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: vegan grilled cheese and tomato soup, crunchy shrimp, temporal le 730 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 3: a pea campire with melted Reese's peanut butter cups all 731 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: over it. 732 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: Do they have all ingredients in the world? How do 733 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: they get all this stuff? 734 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 4: They just make it happen. 735 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 2: To make it happen, they did. 736 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 4: They had a. 737 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 3: Soundclown wrapper order a steak like covered in in a 738 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: twenty four carrot gold flakes. 739 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 2: Because is so good. 740 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this guy, I think everybody. I guess it 741 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: was two pints mint chocolate chip ice cream. 742 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 4: Then he uh, you. 743 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 3: Know, it goes into the to the death chamber. It 744 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 3: was a lethal injection goes into the the death chamber. 745 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 3: And they had it was kind of like a. 746 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 4: I guess like a pod, and it had. 747 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: Different rooms around it in a circle and uh one 748 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 3: way glass so that the people in each respective room 749 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 3: could see into the death chamber, but. 750 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 4: One way glass, so you know, it was you couldn't see. 751 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: And one room was for members of the media to 752 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 3: witness it and report what they saw. Another room was 753 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: for government officials, and a third room was for you know, 754 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: family members, Yeah, loved ones and family members of the 755 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: victims who just wanted like the vindication. 756 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 4: To see it happen. 757 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 3: So the guy comes into his room, I and this 758 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 3: is all, you know, I'm you know, once it's said. 759 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: And done, I'm like a movie that you're setting up here, 760 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: But this is all a real dude happened. 761 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 3: And I'm uh, you know, kind of relaying what I 762 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 3: heard reported from after it happened, like the you know, 763 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 3: the media and people are on the news thinger. The 764 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 3: guy walks into the death chamber and he he gets 765 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 3: to have his last words, which he declined to say himself. 766 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 3: Rather he wrote down his last words and they were 767 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 3: read aloud by like, you know, some kind of government 768 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 3: official in the room. 769 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 770 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: And and this was like particularly offensive to me because 771 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: the last words were not like, not only were they 772 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 3: not like remorseful, not only were they not. 773 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 4: You know, they were just vile. You know. It was 774 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 4: like it was basically like. 775 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 3: Out yeah, he was saying, I'm the master of my 776 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 3: own domain, you know, like basically I'm not sorry, you know, 777 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 3: I do it all over again. 778 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 4: Was kind of the vibe of it. And just the 779 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 4: fact that, uh, you know that it was. 780 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: Like it was taxpayer money who paid the salary of 781 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 3: that government official to read those vile words, right, you know. 782 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 4: I found offensive. And then. 783 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 3: After the words are read, and and and this, uh, this, 784 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 3: this guy like squints at each pane of one way 785 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 3: glass like trying to like you know, acknowledging each rooms, 786 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 3: like kind of squints, are trying to see through it, 787 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 3: and like just kind of scoffs, you know, like with 788 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 3: disrespect at each one. 789 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: Everyone trying trying to do that. 790 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 3: I mean, and and and and I completely I'm completely reserved. 791 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 4: The possibility that I have some form of revisionist memory. 792 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 4: This is how I remember. 793 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 2: This is what I remember. 794 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what has been a long time. That's 795 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 4: how I remember. 796 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 3: But he like acknowledged each room like with just gesture 797 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 3: of disrespect, and then when they actually get give the injection. 798 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a series of three different injections. The 799 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 4: first one is. 800 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 3: If not actually propofal, it's the equivalent like a general anesthesia, 801 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: you know. 802 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 4: So it's like. 803 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: It's like going into surgery without the pesky like waking 804 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 3: up sore part, you. 805 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 2: Know, right, couldn't what are you doing? 806 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: Ker could not have been more of a cakewalk, you know, 807 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 3: the most the most humane, the most gentle, the most 808 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 3: like just uh, the most medicated. It's like this, this 809 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 3: guy had such an easy death that that that. 810 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 4: It was reported he didn't even blink. 811 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: He'd like, he's just kind of as it's just his 812 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 3: head went back out down. He didn't even blink. It 813 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 3: was just disrespect, just being vile. And then they just 814 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 3: saw him have this like utterly painless, comfortable, peaceful, like. 815 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: Like putting your pet down. 816 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 4: Present, putting your pet down. 817 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 3: It like it just I feel like the world is 818 00:45:54,320 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 3: full of terminally ill individuals who are just in unbearable 819 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 3: suffering agony and not legally allowed to be euthanized. They're like, 820 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 3: they're all kinds of worlds full of Them's maybe on 821 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 3: averse statement, but I think there's no shortage of people 822 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 3: who would beg beg to have such. 823 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: An easy I'd be one if I was just in 824 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: complete shambles, I'd say just beautiful. 825 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 4: Right, It's just so unfair. 826 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 3: They're like people who are good, people who never did 827 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 3: anything wrong, terminally ill and in great suffering, are not 828 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 3: afforded this easy, painless death that this vile individual was afforded. 829 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 4: And and just the most famous guy in the world. 830 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 4: It's just soaking up all of the attention. 831 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: Right that we gave to him, though, right that we gave. 832 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 4: To him, and just painless, like everything about it was 833 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 4: that all of that put aside. 834 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 3: Is not even like what I considered the main issue here. 835 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 4: The main issue here. 836 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 3: Is that in order to carry out capital punishment, to 837 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 3: actually go through with executing a prisoner, it is required 838 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 3: for that to go through the process of appeals all 839 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: the way up to the Supreme Court. As I understand it, 840 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 3: it has to go all the way through the Supreme 841 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,479 Speaker 3: Court because they want to be so sure that they're 842 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 3: not executing the wrong people that they have this just 843 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 3: over the top appellate process to. 844 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 4: Appeal the conviction. 845 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: And by the time you've gone all the way up 846 00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 3: to the Supreme Court and exhausted the entire appeal process, 847 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 3: you have generated in court costs at the expense of the. 848 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 2: Taxpayer, endless amount of money. 849 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 3: Mike, not quite ten times the amount of money that 850 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 3: it would cost to just throw away the key and 851 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 3: let that person live. 852 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 4: Out their natural life in a jail cell. 853 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 3: And I know that that it's not quite ten times 854 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 3: because I'm so fascinated with this subject that I actually 855 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 3: sought to interview a death row inmate. 856 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 2: Oh wow on my podcast. That's awesome. 857 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 3: And they found a guy who was on death row 858 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 3: for like twenty years but got his sentence commuted to 859 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 3: life and then managed to get. 860 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 4: Parolled and is free. 861 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: So wild. 862 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 3: He was able to speak to the experience of being 863 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 3: on death row, the experience of being in general population, 864 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 3: and being free. 865 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, all things I don't ever want to do, right. 866 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I got all kinds of backlash for why 867 00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 3: are you platforming this guy? 868 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,919 Speaker 2: Was the backlash a belt. 869 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 4: I mean, it's like, the guy killed somebody, are you 870 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 4: giving them. 871 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: He did? Okay, definitely kill somebody. 872 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 3: He was so appropriately remorseful, you know, like even in 873 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,959 Speaker 3: like in a touching way. 874 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 4: Oh no, way. You've got the book Ishmael. That's like 875 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 4: my favorite book. 876 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: Literally, what's that book? Then? 877 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 4: It's it's awesome. 878 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 3: It's uh, it's a novel about how how utterly fucked 879 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 3: we are. 880 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 2: Oh ship, I can't wait to read it. 881 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell I can tell you about it. 882 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: But it's okay, Well it's yeah, take that book tonight. 883 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 3: It's it's epic, but but yeah, so uh, you know, 884 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 3: in the process of finding this, this very remorseful guy 885 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 3: who uh you know, I I learned it's not quite 886 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 3: ten times like for someone to live their natural life. 887 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 4: Maybe it's closer to three times. But whatever it is, uh, 888 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 4: you know, it's the power of a multiple. It costs 889 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 4: a lot more to. 890 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 3: Make somebody make an asshole, like give them all the 891 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: attention they want, you know, I give them a completely 892 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 3: painless life, just makes them feel important, celebrates them, and 893 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 3: costs way more money. 894 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 4: And it's it's just like. 895 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 3: You know, and and and I started out by saying, 896 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 3: I think that the debate, the typical debate around the 897 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 3: death penalty is uh. 898 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,240 Speaker 4: Just it's it's kind. 899 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 3: Of miss misguided because the typical debate about the death 900 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 3: penalty is people saying it's not you know, like, uh, 901 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 3: it's kind of like an iph and eye makes the. 902 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 2: Whole world blind. 903 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 3: It's like an iph and eye makes a whole world blind. 904 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 4: Two wrongs don't make a right. 905 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 3: You shouldn't take a life because to show that taking 906 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 3: a life is wrong, you know, like people think that 907 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 3: that the death penalty is like two too. 908 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,479 Speaker 4: Much, And in my view, it's not harsh enough. 909 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I'm saying. 910 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: If someone killed one of my family members, I would 911 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: want to kill them. 912 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 2: Right, and I want them to die. 913 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 4: I mean, but it's just like I think about I 914 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 4: think about the room in the viewing room. 915 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 3: For the people who are the family members, loved ones 916 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 3: of the victims, who are there for that vindication. 917 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 4: They're they're like they. 918 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 3: Want to see this, Yeah, they want to see this 919 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 3: bastard die, Like where's the vindication? 920 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 4: And hearing vile words. 921 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: Yeah that it sounds like, I mean just yeah, you 922 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 1: just stopped all over you guys. 923 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,280 Speaker 3: They just those loved ones and family members went there 924 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 3: and like they were dish respected, you know, and and 925 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 3: they I just don't see how they got any vindication 926 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 3: in watching that guy just lay rest his head against 927 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 3: a cushion, a cushy chair, right, and not even Blinka's eye. 928 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 2: Are you an eye for an eye? 929 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 4: Guy? 930 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 3: I think that that the that the suffering that people 931 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 3: go through in this life, the life is tough, man. 932 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,399 Speaker 4: Death is easy, dude. That's my view. 933 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 3: I think that there's that I believe pretty pretty confidently 934 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 3: that actually being dead is not too tough. 935 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 4: You know, it's life that's well, you're dead, you know, 936 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 4: it's it's it's life. 937 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,439 Speaker 2: I hope it's not tough, because that would really suck. 938 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 4: I mean, we're all screwed if it's yea. 939 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 3: And so it's life that's challenging, and uh, you know, 940 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 3: I just think that vindication would be in in the 941 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 3: guy living and miserable life. 942 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: That's probably that's worse than just passing away real quick, 943 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 1: easy out. 944 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 2: Also gently passing away so gently, yeah it's so nice. 945 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, gently and painlessly. 946 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 3: And in all of this, you know, I just think 947 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 3: let's let's be more frugal with uh, with our spending 948 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 3: as a nation, as as as people like, let's not 949 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 3: throw money away on like, uh, is. 950 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 2: This worth it? I don't think so. Maybe not, it's 951 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 2: not worth that. 952 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 4: Plus they do sometimes execute the wrong people. 953 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: I think that's my thing. It's like we're not good 954 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: enough at it. 955 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 2: People have a good. 956 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: Enough ratio here, right, we should be one hundred percent right, 957 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: nothing else. 958 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 3: And I think that it's really fucking important to think 959 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 3: about it, to to live your life deliberately in a 960 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 3: fashion that you want to have, that you want to 961 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 3: have lived your life in a way that you're stoked 962 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 3: to you lived your life when it's over, Like. 963 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 2: If you died the more kind of thing, Yeah, did 964 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: you do what you wanted to do? 965 00:53:59,120 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 4: Fu? 966 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: Would you just get called out? 967 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 4: Did you did you too soon? You want to be 968 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,240 Speaker 4: on your deathbed thinking fuck. 969 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want did I do that? I would hate that. 970 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 4: You want to die thinking fuck yeah, dude, I killed it. 971 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 4: You know I killed it. 972 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 2: You can lead with that sort of mentality, right man. 973 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 1: That has to be bleeding into some of the stunts 974 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 1: you've done that are so crazy, right for sure? 975 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 4: I mean now, like did I do everything right? You know? 976 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 4: Like maybe not? 977 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 3: I don't know, but like, but I'm very deliberate. I'm 978 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 3: very like driven for for my goals, and like you know, 979 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 3: like like like what I've identified as my goal is 980 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 3: I go after it, and I do it deliberately. 981 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 4: I think that to think, like to be there and 982 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 4: you're dying. 983 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 3: Be like ah fuck man, I like I always like 984 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 3: to avoided thinking about this. 985 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 4: And people do they have their blinders on? 986 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't work about it, right, They. 987 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 3: Have They have signs indicating like where's the nearest hospital. 988 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 3: It's like a big H on a blue square, you know, 989 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 3: like like hospital, you know, because that's where you go 990 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 3: to get better people. People are down with going to 991 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,240 Speaker 3: people are down with the idea of getting better. 992 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 4: I would say that. 993 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 3: Probably a shocking percentage of the population of America does 994 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 3: not know the definition of the word hospice right, Like, 995 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 3: And there's definitely no fucking there are more people in 996 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 3: hospices not getting better than there are in hospitals getting. 997 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,280 Speaker 2: Better, literally waiting to die. 998 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, but nobody wants to fucking think about it. There's 999 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 4: no signs for where the hospice is at. 1000 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 3: Nobody even wants to know what it is. And like 1001 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 3: when people get old, like, not only do they not 1002 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 3: want to like take care of their elderly, they want 1003 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 3: to just fucking shut them into nursing homes, get them 1004 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 3: away from me because I don't want to deal with 1005 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 3: the hassle. But even more so, old people are just 1006 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 3: a fucking party foul there being. 1007 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 2: Old, bringing your grandpa to the party. Like, I'm not that. 1008 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 3: I think that being old is an aggressive party foul 1009 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 3: because when you are old, you serve as a reminder 1010 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 3: of people's mortality and they don't know more. 1011 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 2: Than others based on how you aged. 1012 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 4: Right, and and people don't want to think about it. 1013 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 3: It's like, dude, I don't want to people don't even 1014 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 3: want to look at an old guy. 1015 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: You're thinking, like this, get to get the. 1016 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 4: Fucking old guy away from me because he's kind of 1017 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 4: bumming me out. 1018 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 3: Because you know, I like not cool, bro, Get the fucking 1019 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 3: out of my my fucking ice eye line, you know. 1020 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 4: And like it's such a scary thing to be an 1021 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 4: attention wore to me, to need at my core to 1022 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 4: be the center of attention, but to be like wilting 1023 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 4: and and and deteriorating and just. 1024 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 3: Turning into this like this thing of you know, the 1025 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 3: the like this repellent. 1026 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 2: You know, So if you could freeze it and stop it, now, 1027 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 2: would you do it? 1028 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 4: No? No, No, I mean I'm not trying to change anything. 1029 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but but that that's my conundrum. I'm hyper sensitive 1030 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: and very self conscious about how it's not fucking okay 1031 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 3: for anybody to get. 1032 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 4: Old, let alone Steve O. Like Steve, Like. 1033 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 3: The first joke in my my new special is like 1034 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 3: I'm in a fucked up situation. I'm Steve O in 1035 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 3: my forties, you know, Like that's funny, Like it's not 1036 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 3: okay for fucking STEVEO to be in. 1037 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 2: His forties and made it this far. 1038 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it right right, right right, But like 1039 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 3: that's that's just the jam I'm in. 1040 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 4: Yes, that's the jam I'm in. And so now what 1041 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 4: am I gonna do about it? 1042 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 2: Evolve? 1043 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 3: Gotta evolve and like more and more, I gotta like 1044 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 3: set myself up to be okay when the attention goes wait, 1045 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 3: that's where the separation. 1046 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 4: Has to come in. 1047 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 3: And like I started touring comedy clubs in twenty ten, 1048 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 3: and you know, it was like I didn't have any 1049 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 3: Like I had done local comedy clubs in LA. Like 1050 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 3: you get on stage for ten minutes, they give you, 1051 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 3: they give you like twenty five bucks. 1052 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 4: You know, maybe they give you fifty bucks. I was like, oh, okay, whatever, 1053 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 4: but I just wanted to do it. 1054 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 3: And when the Third Jackass Maybe came out in twenty ten, 1055 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 3: I go on Howard Stern and I'm like, yo, Howard 1056 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 3: jumping in the comedy club like every night, I'm loving it, 1057 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 3: like I'm. 1058 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 4: Gonna be fuck. 1059 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get a gig tonight in New York. 1060 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 3: And because I said that on Howard Stern, I get 1061 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,919 Speaker 3: a call from my lawyer. He says him I'm I'm 1062 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 3: getting requests from comedy clubs like all over the country 1063 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 3: and they're trying to book you. It's like, I've got 1064 00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 3: an offer for for twenty thousand dollars, all right, and 1065 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 3: like what that offered? 1066 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 2: Like stand up gig? 1067 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in a comedy club and it was 1068 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 3: for six shows from Thursday through Sunday for. 1069 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 2: A week of work, right, yeah, four days. 1070 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, one show on Thursday, then two shows on Friday, 1071 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 3: two shows on Saturday, and then one show on Sunday. 1072 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 3: So if you like, let's say it was it was 1073 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 3: eighteen thousand dollars, then you could divide that by six 1074 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 3: and arrive at three. 1075 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 4: That's like three thousand bucks per show. It was insane. 1076 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 4: I couldn't even believe it. Let's fuck yah, I'll do that, 1077 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 4: you know. So I start doing the you know, I 1078 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 4: start doing. 1079 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 3: This whole comedy club circuit, and like I knew that 1080 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 3: people didn't see me as a stand up guy, and 1081 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 3: I was fucking giving it hell and doing the best 1082 00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 3: I could. And I was doing it well enough. 1083 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: You kind of work with that in some way or 1084 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: well acknowledging that or something in your sets. 1085 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 3: I was doing well enough that it was a good 1086 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 3: business move for comedy club to book me, right exactly 1087 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: going to keep getting booked in comedy clubs, I made 1088 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 3: it around the whole comedy club circuit and was invited 1089 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 3: for another loop. 1090 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 4: And I did that for eleven years. Wow. 1091 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 3: And over the course of eleven years grinding in comedy clubs, 1092 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 3: I literally got somewhere with the crafty. 1093 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, just I just gave it. I gave 1094 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 4: it hell. 1095 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 3: And recognizing that that I really had a bit of 1096 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 3: an uphill battle to establish myself as a performer of 1097 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 3: live comedy, I wanted. 1098 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: To anything like from people's perception of you or your 1099 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: perception of yourself. 1100 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 3: Like I knew that anybody coming to see Steve O 1101 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 3: at a comedy club had some low ass expectations for 1102 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 3: Steve O's stand up, and I knew that anybody who 1103 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 3: did come to the comedy club would would be surprised 1104 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 3: by how it was better than what they expected and 1105 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 3: so given and I would lure them to the comedy 1106 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 3: club with promises of I'm gonna do dumb ship too, Yeah, 1107 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 3: lure them in with I'm gonna do fucked up ship 1108 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 3: on stage and try to leave them impressed with the 1109 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 3: show is actually funny. And then at the end of 1110 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 3: the show, I would like every single time, I would 1111 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 3: say to the crowd, I am not going anywhere or 1112 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 3: doing anything until I take a photo with every single 1113 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 3: one of you guys, whole audience that wants a photo, 1114 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 3: because I felt that to make to make sure that 1115 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 3: as many people as possible left that comedy club with 1116 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 3: a photo, I felt pretty. 1117 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 4: Confident that they would post that photo with me with. 1118 01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 2: Some the medium straight up yeah, grassroots market, let's do it. 1119 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 3: Give it, send everybody home with the photo, and feel 1120 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 3: confident that when they post that photo that they're. 1121 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 4: Gonna say it was actually good. 1122 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 3: You know, out there in the ether, you know that 1123 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 3: it's worth it to go see Steve to comedy club. 1124 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 3: And and that's why I did the meet and greet 1125 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 3: after every single show. But also every meet and greet 1126 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 3: after every show was a glorified audition to figure out 1127 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 3: who I was gonna act out sexually with that night. 1128 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 4: I was looking for, looking for some kind of groupie action, 1129 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 4: get some chick back to the hotel hookup right, you know. 1130 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to just like to hook up with chicks 1131 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 3: as much as possible. 1132 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 2: Huh. 1133 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 4: And you know what, in twenty ten, I was thirty five. 1134 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 3: You know, by twenty three thirteen, I'm thirty eight, I'm 1135 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 3: getting close to forty, and I'm realizing that, like this 1136 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 3: is just kind of pathetic, you know, like the whole 1137 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 3: just hook up with as many chicks as you possibly 1138 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 3: can thing is h you know, not the path to 1139 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 3: really being like happy right with the right right eventually. Yeah, 1140 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 3: and with the terrifying idea of becoming a walking party 1141 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 3: foul that nobody wants to pay attention to and needing attention. 1142 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 3: Like like what I recognized and I subscribed to the 1143 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 3: idea that for me to be happy later in life, 1144 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 3: I needed to stop like just being promiscuous, just hooking 1145 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 3: up with chicks. I needed to learn how to be 1146 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 3: in a healthy relationship. And I needed to find a 1147 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 3: life partner with somebody who who will be with me 1148 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 3: when I'm old and nobody. 1149 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 2: Wants to look at me right, you know, yeah. 1150 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, someone someone who loved me for me and helped 1151 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 3: me weather the crazy, scary, terrifying storm. 1152 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: If you might end up alone, right, and then you 1153 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: were running out of options as you get older. 1154 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 3: And it makes sense cheap because if you if you 1155 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 3: you know, like look at studies about happiness and like 1156 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 3: quality of life, you know, longevity, like people who are 1157 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 3: married who have like like solid, stable, healthy relationships, long 1158 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 3: healthy marriages, like it's the best you can possibly shoot for, right. 1159 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 4: So that became a big ass deal for me. 1160 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 2: Are you there now? 1161 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1162 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 3: I started trying to I tried to stop hooking up 1163 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 3: with chicks in twenty thirteen, like pretty early. 1164 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 2: What happened. 1165 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 4: I couldn't do it, man. It was like it was 1166 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 4: like the alcoholics, I'm not gonna drink. I'm not going there. 1167 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 4: We yeah, and it was crazy. And so you know, 1168 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 4: I got. 1169 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 3: Into therapy with the therapy specialized in in sex stuff. 1170 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 3: And that guy's like, dude, you gotta you gotta go 1171 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 3: to sex outed rehab. 1172 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 4: Like fuck man, you know, and uh and and I do. There. 1173 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I was there with one. 1174 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 3: Guy who was in in trouble with h like some 1175 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 3: like kind of child porn situation. 1176 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 4: Another guy was just like blown up his marriage, like. 1177 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 2: Every everyone at some point something more than others. 1178 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 4: Here, the. 1179 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 3: Majority of people in that world of of sexual sobriety 1180 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 3: are for the most part, like have blown up their marriages, 1181 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 3: their families and trying to put the pieces back together, 1182 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 3: or they're like in serious trouble with the law. 1183 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 1: Either way, they're fucked in some way. They got to 1184 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: stop doing this, right. 1185 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 3: I was like a little bit of a unicorn in 1186 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 3: that world, like for being there preemptively. Yeah, My story 1187 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 3: was that I got to do the work to become 1188 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 3: the man that the love of my life deserves. 1189 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's cool, though. 1190 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 3: Fully acknowledging that I had not met the love of 1191 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 3: my life. And after that sex addict rehab, they recommended 1192 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 3: a period of celibacy where you just don't even blow 1193 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 3: a load. 1194 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, November beyond. 1195 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 3: Ever and uh and that that's supposed to like help 1196 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 3: kind of rewire like your you know, coca. They recommend 1197 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 3: like thirty or ninety days, ok and uh And I 1198 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 3: like kind of stuntified the whole thing. And I turned 1199 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 3: like it was October of twenty thirteen. I was in 1200 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 3: that sex addict rehab thing, and coming out of that, 1201 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 3: I had like stumbled with the celibacy thing like and 1202 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 3: then I was like, no, no, I'm in. 1203 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 4: I did not blow a load the entire year of 1204 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. 1205 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 3: I went I went precisely four hundred and thirty one days. 1206 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 2: So what does that do? 1207 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 4: It makes you irritable. 1208 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 3: And in the beginning of twenty fourteen, I had less 1209 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 3: than a million Facebook followers. At the end of twenty fourteen, 1210 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 3: I had more than eight million. 1211 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 2: Well, because you didn't blow your loads. 1212 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, dude, I was. I was grumpy, and 1213 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 4: I was focused, and I was right I. 1214 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 2: Might some shit. I was dotted working your ass off. 1215 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 3: You know, I got the like I started my YouTube 1216 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 3: channel in twenty thirteen. 1217 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 4: And I like, I got that like. I put a 1218 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 4: lot of work into them. 1219 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 3: You know, I took control of my career back from 1220 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 3: the suits who had to give me permission to work 1221 01:07:58,960 --> 01:07:59,440 Speaker 3: before that. 1222 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 2: You know, can we talk about that, just that that 1223 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 2: final load. 1224 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 4: Sure, I took a photo of it on my Tommy. 1225 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 4: It was it was, it was. It was wildly uh underwhelming. 1226 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, like at a certain point, I mean, you think 1227 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 3: there's just gonna be a. 1228 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 4: Golf block, a marshmallow. 1229 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 3: That was a Bobby Lead joke that like a big 1230 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 3: marshmallow falls out, Like, No, it wasn't a fire hose, 1231 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,760 Speaker 3: it wasn't anything. It's more watery then I'd remembered it. 1232 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,759 Speaker 3: I think that your body, it just cycles through your body. 1233 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 2: Okay, it's just giving up on the whole idea. 1234 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, like that, you know that's just my deal, dude, 1235 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 3: Like I uh, I really think that that's important. That's 1236 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 3: like the you know, I had this whole pattern of 1237 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:56,480 Speaker 3: just like using ship, I would be like infatuated with 1238 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 3: with the woman, like pour on the charm, really get 1239 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 3: her to fall for me, like act out with her, 1240 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 3: then totally lose interest and just wanted to not be 1241 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 3: anywhere near. 1242 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Are you consciously doing that or not this pattern you 1243 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: kind of realized that you were doing where you felt 1244 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: like that in the moment, and then you did. 1245 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 3: Sure not deliberate at all, just straight up so sociopath ship, 1246 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 3: like this is just like this is like my future 1247 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 3: is with this one, you know, like I'm refatuated and 1248 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 3: then like one like like once I act out with them, 1249 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 3: it's just like a light switch just flips just I'm 1250 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,679 Speaker 3: like over it, just get me away, and then like. 1251 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 4: And then the whole ghost routine. 1252 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 3: And then it's like not lost on me that when 1253 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,720 Speaker 3: I'm doing that, I called it. 1254 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 4: Like I burned that person. I burned that person. 1255 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 3: And it's not lost on me that that not only 1256 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 3: did I not treat that person the way I want 1257 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 3: to be, I actually treated that person the way I 1258 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:10,679 Speaker 3: most fear being treated myself because I definitely have abandonment issues. 1259 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 3: I definitely don't do well with rejection. And there's just 1260 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 3: like I don't even understand it, Like how how can 1261 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,759 Speaker 3: I like, how can I be cooking up worst cards? 1262 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,759 Speaker 2: Right, like what you would hate the most? 1263 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:24,759 Speaker 4: Hate the most? 1264 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:29,679 Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, I feel like there's some 1265 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,560 Speaker 3: built in defense mechanism where would only like let myself 1266 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 3: like you know, subconsciously, like you know, protect myself by 1267 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 3: only dealing with people who I knew I could burn 1268 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 3: them before they burn me. 1269 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 2: Just like real weird here yet Yeah, I don't know. 1270 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 3: But but every time I did that, I just felt 1271 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 3: like the worst person because once, once, once the process 1272 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 3: was complete, I knew that I had treated some buddy 1273 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 3: the way that I. 1274 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 2: Most don't feel guilty about the. 1275 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:10,679 Speaker 4: Shame, just shame disgusted myself. I just feel my self 1276 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 4: esteems is just awful. 1277 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,040 Speaker 3: And and then not to mention like just all the stress, 1278 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 3: like oh my god, like what I like, you know, 1279 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 3: like like what are my health concerns, like just like 1280 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 3: the stress, like the it's a fucking nightmare, and even 1281 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 3: when it wasn't a nightmare, like just the amount of time, 1282 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 3: you know, Like, so I'm like it was a it was. 1283 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 4: A bad situation. 1284 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,759 Speaker 3: Anybody who thinks sex addiction is not a thing, like, dude, 1285 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 3: sex addiction is taken down more powerful people than like 1286 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 3: maybe even like drugs and alcohol. 1287 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 2: You know, So, how how did you rewire yourself to. 1288 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 4: Not be I don't know, man, I really don't know, dude. 1289 01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 3: Like I had some some uh some misfires, you know, 1290 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 3: like after that that underwhelming load, I had a miss 1291 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 3: fire with one relationship, a missfire with another relationship. 1292 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 4: Then I was like, ah, fuck it. 1293 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 3: And then I'd went off the rails again, okay, and 1294 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,719 Speaker 3: it just like the stress and the chaos of going 1295 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 3: off the rails again for that short time was like okay, 1296 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,640 Speaker 3: and that's kind of maybe what I did. And then 1297 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 3: I met my girl in twenty seventeen. 1298 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: When you met her, did you have a feeling right 1299 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: away or were you just kind of at a point 1300 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 1: where I didn't? 1301 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:34,679 Speaker 2: So how did that go? And how did you guys 1302 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 2: get close like that? 1303 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 3: Then we we dated responsibly for for a month, like we. 1304 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 1: Was just new to her like any responsibility or pretty responsibly. 1305 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 3: She was like kind of surprised, why like why are 1306 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 3: we uh, you know, like why are we going on 1307 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 3: like our fourth date, like after a whole month and 1308 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,799 Speaker 3: we still haven't like kissed. 1309 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 4: And I was like I was. 1310 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 2: I was just you're on the same page at least. 1311 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 3: Thing I was candid about about my track record with relationships. 1312 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 4: Being terrible, that my my past being. 1313 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,760 Speaker 3: Checkered, you know, and that like and I think that 1314 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:19,639 Speaker 3: in communicating that openly and honestly that that was important. 1315 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 4: I think just getting to know getting to know. 1316 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 3: Her, like she's a fucking good ass person and that's 1317 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:26,719 Speaker 3: like the thing. 1318 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 4: And then like I mean, I. 1319 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 3: Don't know, dude, and I mean I don't want to 1320 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 3: be complacent anything. Oh yeah, now I'm good, you know. 1321 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,440 Speaker 3: And now I'm like, you know, like the whole spiritual 1322 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 3: practice thing is super important, and I just I just 1323 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 3: really like like hold on tightly to like the selfish 1324 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 3: gratification I get from knowing that I'm a good guy 1325 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 3: who does the right thing even when. 1326 01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 4: Nobody's watching, you know, Like that's like that a big deal. 1327 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: Just see even just your own self awareness of that, Hey, 1328 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm not a shitty guy. 1329 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 4: I'm not a shitty guy. Like, like, I've put some 1330 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 4: distance between me. 1331 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 2: And that power through it a little bit. 1332 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've put. 1333 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 3: Distance between me and that fucking terrible shame. And uh 1334 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 3: I don't burn people. Yeah, I don't burn people anymore. 1335 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,720 Speaker 3: And that feels really fucking good. You know, Like, uh, 1336 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,599 Speaker 3: I've got somebody who like like that, like now, like 1337 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 3: it's it's almost like that twenty fourteen dynamic where like 1338 01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm le just not grumpy. Really, I'm 1339 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 3: just focused on pulling shit off. No distractions, no time sucks, 1340 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 3: no no. 1341 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're dialed in, Yeah, and dialed in. 1342 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,920 Speaker 4: And on top of that, I got this great partner 1343 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 4: helps me pull. 1344 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 1: Shit off, and it's working together and it's not like 1345 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 1: competing with itself. 1346 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1347 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 3: And you know my first comedy special, which did more 1348 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 3: damage to my career than than good, just because I 1349 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,120 Speaker 3: wasn't ready. I was like five years in Okay, and 1350 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:06,759 Speaker 3: it chronicle It started out as like just gnarly. 1351 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 4: Groupie sex like accounts. 1352 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 3: Just the stories of it started out like just it 1353 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 3: was the craziest stories of groupie sex, and and like 1354 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 3: after that show was done and you just heard me 1355 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 3: like talk about just like graphic groupie sex, like the 1356 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 3: only chicks you know, like that they were they know what, 1357 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 3: and and like then the act like they you know, 1358 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,760 Speaker 3: just got nude story, you know. And then it's like, oh, 1359 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:41,000 Speaker 3: now I've about the hilarious triple blow job story, you know, 1360 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 3: like it's so funny. 1361 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so funny. 1362 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 4: You know, it was actually the best bid in the special. 1363 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 2: He's like, actually it was funny too. 1364 01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 4: Actually it's pretty funny. 1365 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,240 Speaker 3: But as the whole like struggling with the sex stuff 1366 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 3: came out then like that, you know, I taped that 1367 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 3: first special in twenty fifteen and so liked all through 1368 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 3: the twenty fourteen it's like I haven't blown a load 1369 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 3: in like two hundred days, you know, like yeah, and 1370 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,639 Speaker 3: it became a story of that was kind of beautiful too, 1371 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 3: because by the end, by the time I taped that 1372 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 3: first special, I was even it was part of my act. 1373 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to be that guy anymore, 1374 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 3: and I'm working on becoming the man the love of 1375 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,000 Speaker 3: my life deserves. That was kind of, you know, part 1376 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 3: part of that and the second special, I was already 1377 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 3: with my Actually I proposed to my girl on stage 1378 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 3: the taping of my second special. 1379 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 2: Nice. She had no idea, She had no idea. 1380 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 4: I can't believe she had no idea. 1381 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 1: Were you confident that it was going to be a yes? 1382 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Or were you like, man, am I about to Yeah? 1383 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 1: I was right, usually you should know, right, yeah. 1384 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew it was going to be a yes, 1385 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 3: And I knew that she's fucking awesome. 1386 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:49,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1387 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 3: And then like, now I'm here promoting my third one, 1388 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 3: and it's about our relationship. 1389 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,759 Speaker 1: So you've been authentic to yourself and all the times. 1390 01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 1: So where's your headspace at now? 1391 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,479 Speaker 2: In the comedy aspect of a new set from STEVEO, I. 1392 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 3: Mean, the the first one was like, you know, like, 1393 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 3: let's go, let's go with the crazy sex stuff. 1394 01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 4: That's gonna be funny, that's gonna be you know. 1395 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:18,680 Speaker 3: The second special was, now, let me take in a 1396 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 3: journey through my criminal past and my like my drug addiction, 1397 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 3: you know, And that. 1398 01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 4: One, uh was great too. 1399 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 3: And what was what was great about the second one 1400 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 3: was that I edited in footage of the stories that 1401 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 3: I told in the act in post production, so I 1402 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 3: wasn't leaning on the footage on the road, but the 1403 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 3: special benefited from the multimedia component. 1404 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 4: And you. 1405 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but as I came, as I came around to 1406 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 3: put together the third show, like I didn't want to be. 1407 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 4: Like rehashing the past anymore because like. 1408 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,240 Speaker 3: You know, like pulling stories out of the past is 1409 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 3: like I'm over that, and now it's time to create 1410 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 3: new stories. 1411 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 2: So you're on news stories. 1412 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and I wanted to have the actually 1413 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 3: my tour, my live shows. I wanted to have the 1414 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 3: live shows benefit from a multimedia component as well. So 1415 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 3: I was like, now I gotta I need new stories. 1416 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 3: I need new footage. 1417 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,759 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's in your live set, like it came. 1418 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 3: On the road with me, and and I was I 1419 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 3: was all like I was well established in uh with 1420 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 3: the YouTube channel, with like you know, all of this 1421 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 3: Facebook social media, so like. 1422 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,600 Speaker 4: I was pretty frustrated. 1423 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 3: With like community guidelines, Oh you've got to strike Oh 1424 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 3: that's not like that's taken down, Like, oh, I better 1425 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,600 Speaker 3: be careful not to show this, you know. 1426 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 4: I was just like fuck that. Now I'm going to 1427 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,120 Speaker 4: bring footage on the road with me. 1428 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 3: There's no there's no community guidelines where I'm in this building. 1429 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm bringing I'm bringing the show to you. I'm 1430 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,600 Speaker 4: going like it's fuck the rules, It's fuck all of 1431 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 4: the rules. 1432 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna I'm gonna do ship that I wouldn't 1433 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 3: even be allowed to do for Jackass. I'm going to 1434 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 3: fucking yeah. And so that's what the third show is. 1435 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 3: It's called the bucket List, and. 1436 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 4: Like it is legitimately triple x. 1437 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:36,879 Speaker 2: Rated in what way I'd like when I'm. 1438 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,720 Speaker 3: Coming up with what's the next show going to be? Like, 1439 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,639 Speaker 3: what's got to be crazier than ever? I'm like, Rob, 1440 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 3: I've kind of done everything. But they're like, well, there 1441 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 3: were these ideas that were so fucked up, like like 1442 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 3: I would just say them to get a rise out 1443 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 3: of people, right, like I'm not actually do it, not 1444 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 3: gonna do it, like like it was I actually the 1445 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 3: main one the idea because I have this like unbelievably 1446 01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:06,640 Speaker 3: crazy and shocking irrational fear of roller coasters. 1447 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,520 Speaker 4: And I know how kidding, I know how counterintuitive. 1448 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 2: You don't ride roller coasters fucking terrified? 1449 01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 3: Are you been on one since I was a teenager? 1450 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,760 Speaker 3: But I went on one two days ago for footage, 1451 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:26,320 Speaker 3: which one Goliath at uh fucking six flags uh here, Yeah, 1452 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:27,600 Speaker 3: and in California is. 1453 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,679 Speaker 2: The same one as it in Atlantic don't have ALI, 1454 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 2: So how was it? 1455 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I hated it. I hated it and and 1456 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 4: and I I hated. 1457 01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 2: Like why do you hate it so much? 1458 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:37,599 Speaker 4: Though? 1459 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,480 Speaker 2: I just don't like the way control. 1460 01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 4: Like the way it feels when your stomach falls out, Yeah, 1461 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,720 Speaker 4: it does. I hate it. 1462 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,040 Speaker 3: And for anybody who doesn't believe that I'm telling the truth, 1463 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 3: I will point you to a video that I made 1464 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 3: on my YouTube channel called ten Stunts I backed out of, 1465 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 3: you know, like what was too much for Stevo. 1466 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 4: And it's a video of the performed. 1467 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 3: Very well, and I showed footage from when we were 1468 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 3: taping Wild Boys. 1469 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 4: They brought me. 1470 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,840 Speaker 3: The gag was to go to a bungee jumping operation 1471 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,440 Speaker 3: with a two hundred foot bridge and they built. 1472 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,320 Speaker 4: Me like Condor man wings so that I could jump 1473 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 4: up and try to fly. 1474 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I was like, it's a funny, 1475 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,439 Speaker 3: it's a funny bit, but I'm telling you there's like 1476 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 3: no way I'm gonna be able to jump. They're like, 1477 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,680 Speaker 3: come on, They're like we'll talk them into it, you know. 1478 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm serious. I'm serious. You couldn't find anybody 1479 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 3: on road rules or their moms who's more fucking shit 1480 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 3: scared of bungee jumping and will not do it than 1481 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 3: I am. 1482 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 4: I'm just telling you that. 1483 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, yeah, whatever, and then we get there, 1484 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not doing it, just where I'm not 1485 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 3: fucking doing it, and they're like really, I'm like, yep, 1486 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 3: I cannot, Yeah, I cannot do the Yeah. 1487 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 2: It's just like it's a rational fear. 1488 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 3: I feel like maybe it's because I grew up like 1489 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 3: sussing out like everything I looked at, like can I 1490 01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:58,360 Speaker 3: jump up that? 1491 01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:59,280 Speaker 4: Can I jump arount? 1492 01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 3: Like I like, no part of it, no part of 1493 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,840 Speaker 3: me thinks it's okay to look off at two hundred 1494 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 3: foot bridge and see anything. 1495 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,840 Speaker 4: Doing I don't care about. I don't care where you 1496 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:09,280 Speaker 4: tie to me. 1497 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 3: I can't look at that and can't. And and ultimately 1498 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 3: what they did, they they they said, we've got five 1499 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 3: Costa Rican guys who are willing to throw you. 1500 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,320 Speaker 2: They make it much better. 1501 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,720 Speaker 3: They call it the Mafia Toss perfect And I was like, 1502 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 3: I was like, well, like I physically couldn't jump, but 1503 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 3: like if they're gonna throw me, I don't I don't 1504 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:35,839 Speaker 3: have to do anything. 1505 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 4: So that was the compromise, and they threw me and 1506 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 4: it was the worst. It was horrible. 1507 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 3: So like so for the last twenty years, like clearly, 1508 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,920 Speaker 3: I wanted nothing to fucking do with going skydiving. Don't 1509 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,320 Speaker 3: want the same thing as roller coasters, same thing as 1510 01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,160 Speaker 3: bungee jumping. 1511 01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:58,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to fucking do it. 1512 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,120 Speaker 3: But rather than tell anybody that I was afraid to 1513 01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 3: go skydiving, what I would say is, I mean, come on, dude, 1514 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,600 Speaker 3: that's not a stunt like everybody does that. It's like, 1515 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,799 Speaker 3: you know what for me, for it to be worth 1516 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 3: it for me to. 1517 01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,600 Speaker 4: Go skydiving, I would have to be butt ass. 1518 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 3: Naked and furiously masturbating with another man strapped to my 1519 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,439 Speaker 3: back and time it so that when I fall out 1520 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 3: of the airplane, I'm simultaneously ejaculating everywhere. I called the 1521 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:38,080 Speaker 3: idea of skyjacking, and this was just my built in way. Yeah, 1522 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,200 Speaker 3: this was my built in way of just making sure 1523 01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:41,800 Speaker 3: that I never went skydiving. 1524 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 4: But when it was time for me to put together 1525 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 4: that this. 1526 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 3: New multimedia tour, I'm like, I gotta fucking I gotta go. 1527 01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,439 Speaker 4: All out, so like I got to push the boundaries further. 1528 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,640 Speaker 3: So that's kind of like the marquee thing, and I 1529 01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,400 Speaker 3: totally went skyjacket. 1530 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 2: Did you do this? Did you successfully do it? 1531 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 3: Like Minute Special starts with that, like as an example 1532 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:13,439 Speaker 3: of like how fucking absurd every item on my bucket 1533 01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,960 Speaker 3: list is. And then like we go on in this 1534 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,400 Speaker 3: journey through the list and I loop back to skyjacking 1535 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:26,240 Speaker 3: like at the end for the climax. Yeah, and and 1536 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 3: like what what's so beautiful about it is that that 1537 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:36,200 Speaker 3: I couldn't have taken on these forbidden stunts without there 1538 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 3: being implications on my relationship with my fiance. So like 1539 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,599 Speaker 3: my relationship with my fiance is the backdrop against which 1540 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,679 Speaker 3: all of this happens, you know, Like the bucket list 1541 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 3: goes sequentially in a descending. 1542 01:24:53,760 --> 01:25:01,599 Speaker 4: Order of my girls' support and approval. Like in the beginning, 1543 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,680 Speaker 4: she's all all about it, right, you know, I described. 1544 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:05,880 Speaker 3: The first room like this is how I knew she 1545 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,640 Speaker 3: was the one. Everyone else is running for their lives. 1546 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 4: And she's fucking getting closer for a better shot, you know, 1547 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,439 Speaker 4: really yeah, real one. 1548 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, and so that's kind of how it works, 1549 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:21,680 Speaker 3: and dude, like I'm talking descending order of approval, Like 1550 01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,840 Speaker 3: she starts not showing up, Like when I've got like 1551 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:30,799 Speaker 3: the medical professional in disguise who stole the fucking drugs 1552 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,759 Speaker 3: from the hospital, who's sticking a four inch needle into 1553 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,920 Speaker 3: my spine and injecting a drug into my spinal cavity 1554 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 3: to render me paralyzed while I'm in a full fucking sprint. 1555 01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that like is just how I go down. Yeah, 1556 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 4: that I could. I could officially die like she did. 1557 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:54,720 Speaker 2: She like upset about that. 1558 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that, or like, Okay, I 1559 01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 1: know this is your job. 1560 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,880 Speaker 4: She never tried to get me not to do it. 1561 01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 3: She just said in a really like genuine, like uh authentic, 1562 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 3: heartfelt way. She was just like there there are certain 1563 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,680 Speaker 3: things that you can never unsee, and I'm just not 1564 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,519 Speaker 3: able to bring myself there to witness one of them. 1565 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:18,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 1566 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 4: So I did it without her. 1567 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 3: So I did it anyway, right and then and once 1568 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,760 Speaker 3: I was down, like fuck, dude, it's just so like 1569 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:27,679 Speaker 3: I had that one. 1570 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 2: What was that? Like? So Hell's being paralyzed. 1571 01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 3: It's called an epidural It's supposed to be like your 1572 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,839 Speaker 3: lower half, you know, like they give to its supposed 1573 01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:38,639 Speaker 3: to be from the waist down. 1574 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,480 Speaker 4: And I remember, like I didn't even know the guy 1575 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,960 Speaker 4: and he's talking about like you know, like, oh, yeah, 1576 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,720 Speaker 4: we'll do it. I'm like, I can't pass this up. 1577 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,839 Speaker 4: But let me reach out to doctor Drew. 1578 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,719 Speaker 2: Just to like doctor Drew. 1579 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 3: Drew has been my brother for that long and uh, 1580 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 3: you know, and I really I run them the idea 1581 01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 3: by Drew and doctor Drew. 1582 01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,600 Speaker 4: Says, wow do I hate that? 1583 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 6: Right? 1584 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1585 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,920 Speaker 4: And he says just he says like, no, you're gonna 1586 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:04,240 Speaker 4: do it. 1587 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:09,200 Speaker 3: So just like let me tell you, like like be 1588 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,639 Speaker 3: really careful, like if you feel yourself becoming paralyzed above 1589 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,760 Speaker 3: the waist, because like sometimes the stuff can back up 1590 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,880 Speaker 3: and then like if that happens, like you're gonna have 1591 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:23,839 Speaker 3: like systems shut down, you know, like. 1592 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 6: Well not like your respiratory system, you might shut down, 1593 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 6: stop reading or something that's where. 1594 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 4: They intubate you. You know. 1595 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, And uh and I'm like yeah, sure, you 1596 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 3: know what, like I'm gonna do it anyway. 1597 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,720 Speaker 2: You know, how do you get yourself psyched up to 1598 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 2: do something like this? I just like, uh, is it just. 1599 01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:44,880 Speaker 3: Just yeah, Like I don't like anything about it, but 1600 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:49,720 Speaker 3: I just know that, Like I gotta have the footage so. 1601 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 2: You hear about the product. Yeah, Like I don't fucking 1602 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,679 Speaker 2: the catalog of your life like one more stunt, one more. 1603 01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:58,960 Speaker 2: It's building what you've done too. 1604 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a bumber, Like the bar had to be raised. 1605 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 4: I had. That's what I had to do with this show. 1606 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 3: And and then like what you know, so once I 1607 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,759 Speaker 3: go down, like all of a sudden, I can't fucking 1608 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 3: feel my chance. I can't feel anything out to my chin, 1609 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,719 Speaker 3: and I'm like I genuinely feel like I can't fucking breathe. 1610 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,720 Speaker 3: I'm like I'm having trouble breathing. And I'm like I'm 1611 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 3: trying so hard, like to even be able to say 1612 01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,679 Speaker 3: I'm having trouble breathing. 1613 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,400 Speaker 4: It's like so much work. 1614 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,320 Speaker 3: Like I was more scared than I've been Like I'm 1615 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,360 Speaker 3: not gonna say maybe ever, but fucking in a long time, 1616 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,479 Speaker 3: and and like and the whole plan is for my 1617 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 3: buddies to be conducting experiments to determine how paralyzed I am. 1618 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,080 Speaker 3: Like if I'm really paralyzed, I'm like, you know, like 1619 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,120 Speaker 3: my one guy's like. 1620 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,599 Speaker 4: Can you feel your legs? And my other Budy's like 1621 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:51,599 Speaker 4: can you feel this? 1622 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 3: So it's like dark and it's fucked up and it's 1623 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 3: so fucking just ridiculous that it's hilarious. 1624 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 4: And after that bit, like I'm laying there. 1625 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:07,000 Speaker 3: And I just start sobbing, dude, real, like fucking just crying, 1626 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 3: and like this weird doctor guy who who put the 1627 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 3: needle in my back showed no emotion until I started crying. 1628 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,240 Speaker 4: And then he's just like confused. 1629 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,840 Speaker 3: He's like, like, what's going on because I'm sobbing and 1630 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 3: I and through my tears, I say, the bar for 1631 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,360 Speaker 3: my stunts is so high, and that was your first 1632 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 3: I fucking raised it. 1633 01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 1: Man, You're like myself so hard. 1634 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,439 Speaker 4: I'm just like, the bar is so high, we raised it, 1635 01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,639 Speaker 4: and I'm just so tears of joy. 1636 01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,640 Speaker 1: Man, for real, I respect the hell out of that 1637 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,919 Speaker 1: for what it's worth, because it's like, and that's. 1638 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,479 Speaker 4: Not even the most shocking fucking thing in the show either. 1639 01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 3: Like you know, like I I really really I'm fucking 1640 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,840 Speaker 3: proud of how wildly fucked up this show. 1641 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 4: It's like I had this. 1642 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 3: Like delusional idea that if I partnered with the. 1643 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 4: Director of Jackass, Jeff Tremaine, that's. 1644 01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 3: Somehow like if if I went into Netflix and they 1645 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 3: could say, like from the director of Jackass, shit that 1646 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 3: was too fucked up for Jackass, like too hot for Jackass, 1647 01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,719 Speaker 3: like Steve O, you know that like maybe they would 1648 01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:31,520 Speaker 3: just somehow overlook the fact of like semen flying. 1649 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:36,280 Speaker 4: You know, like maybe they would like somehow be okay 1650 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:36,599 Speaker 4: with it. 1651 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,720 Speaker 3: And uh So I brought Jeff over and showed him 1652 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:45,439 Speaker 3: like an early like recording of my live show with 1653 01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:49,559 Speaker 3: all of the multimedia baked into it, and he says, uh, man, 1654 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,639 Speaker 3: I got to congratulate to Steve, You've really outdone yourself. 1655 01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 3: But this isn't going anywhere near Netflix. 1656 01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:00,040 Speaker 2: And he's like this, this is so fucked. 1657 01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 4: Up from start to finish. I don't even see parts 1658 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:03,880 Speaker 4: of it that could go on Netflix. 1659 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,880 Speaker 3: Like wow, And uh it's like a point of pride. 1660 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,240 Speaker 3: I've never heard of people passing out at Jackars. 1661 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're passing out. 1662 01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:17,719 Speaker 3: There's like there's like three culprits that that make people 1663 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:18,200 Speaker 3: pass out. 1664 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,840 Speaker 4: And I know, it's like really weird. It's not like 1665 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 4: a lot of. 1666 01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 3: People, but like in a theater of a thousand people, 1667 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:32,719 Speaker 3: like we're gonna average like the most that ever passed 1668 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:33,400 Speaker 3: out was like. 1669 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,880 Speaker 4: Eleven people and a lot of people. 1670 01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,479 Speaker 3: And then there's then there's some shows where nobody does 1671 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 3: you know, Like so I would say we averaged at 1672 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 3: least one person per show. 1673 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,080 Speaker 4: At the taping, there were like eight people. 1674 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 2: There's a visceral reaction here. 1675 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,000 Speaker 3: Whatever it's it's like, I don't know, like one in 1676 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,280 Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty people or something, maybe one in 1677 01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:57,200 Speaker 3: five hundred people. 1678 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,240 Speaker 4: I mean, dude, it's like I never wanted that to happen. 1679 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:03,040 Speaker 4: You know. 1680 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,800 Speaker 3: I did want it to happen at the taping because 1681 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,400 Speaker 3: I had made such a big deal out of it, 1682 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:07,559 Speaker 3: and I. 1683 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,920 Speaker 4: Was just so glad that I'm so glad that it did. 1684 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,120 Speaker 3: But I knew people were gonna accuse me of like 1685 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 3: planting because I couldn't write. 1686 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:17,800 Speaker 4: I could not have. 1687 01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:23,479 Speaker 3: Planted this one fucking dude, second row, second seat in 1688 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,800 Speaker 3: from the center aisle. He tries to work his way 1689 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,040 Speaker 3: out and passes out as he's trying to get by 1690 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:29,960 Speaker 3: his buddy. 1691 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:34,439 Speaker 4: Lands on his face and slides on his fucking face 1692 01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:39,080 Speaker 4: across the center aisle, like just laid laid out right. 1693 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 3: In front of me, in front of the stage at 1694 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:44,040 Speaker 3: the taping, and I just thought, I was like, fucking, hey, dude, 1695 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:48,560 Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna accuse me of fucking playing. They're 1696 01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,800 Speaker 3: gonna say, they're gonna they're gonna say. 1697 01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 4: And I saw a fucking comment on on social. 1698 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 3: Media a cap hired people to have hired actors to pass. 1699 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:00,280 Speaker 4: Dude. 1700 01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:06,280 Speaker 3: No, I've never fucking deceived my audience period. 1701 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:07,280 Speaker 2: That's it. 1702 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:12,559 Speaker 3: If I do that, If I fucking deceived my audience once, then. 1703 01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 2: Then it's all over. Yeah. 1704 01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:18,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll tell I'll tell anybody anywhere, like what 1705 01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:19,360 Speaker 3: was faked? 1706 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 4: They were fucking precious. Fuck me, Wild Boys. 1707 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:29,400 Speaker 3: We were totally liberal about the geography of where things happened. 1708 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,200 Speaker 4: We lied a lot on Wild Boys. 1709 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,760 Speaker 2: Like we're in a back lot, We're not or where 1710 01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:35,080 Speaker 2: were you? 1711 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 4: Okay? 1712 01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,680 Speaker 3: We uh Like like when we went to Africa with 1713 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,160 Speaker 3: the two man zebra suit, we brought it on Safari. 1714 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,240 Speaker 3: We're trying to get footage with lions in a two 1715 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:51,839 Speaker 3: man zebra suit. Yeah, and like like absolute fucking lutely 1716 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,280 Speaker 3: nobody is. They're like they're like, no, you're not, you know, 1717 01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:57,880 Speaker 3: And so we had all this great footage like on 1718 01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,599 Speaker 3: Safari with like different zebras and other we had everything 1719 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 3: except the closing shot. And so they had this, uh 1720 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,559 Speaker 3: this this company called like Hollywood Animals in California and 1721 01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,080 Speaker 3: they had like like like whenever we're doing fucked up 1722 01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,840 Speaker 3: ship with lions, like you know where they were actually 1723 01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 3: in California with this doesn't make. 1724 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,759 Speaker 2: It safe, yes, just a little bit safer. 1725 01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,759 Speaker 3: I recently put a video on my YouTube channel called 1726 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:26,320 Speaker 3: ten Times We Could Have Died, completely transparent about the 1727 01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:30,240 Speaker 3: fact that the lions were in California didn't stop him 1728 01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,439 Speaker 3: from climbing up the goddamn tree. 1729 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,880 Speaker 4: So line, Yeah, I asked Siegfried and Roy about that. 1730 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh and then like outside of that, like 1731 01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:47,679 Speaker 3: the there was one thing, the butt shug in Jackass 1732 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 3: number two totally real. 1733 01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,760 Speaker 4: When that like it's it's real. 1734 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 3: The like in the tube you can see the the 1735 01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:02,559 Speaker 3: level of beer going down. But when Bam runs over 1736 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:07,160 Speaker 3: and and and jams the plunger into my butt, there 1737 01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,000 Speaker 3: was beer port into that plunger like off camera. 1738 01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it looked a little bit like but that's 1739 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:13,719 Speaker 1: right into yours. 1740 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,360 Speaker 4: I don't even know like that was like that, I 1741 01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:15,680 Speaker 4: mean it. 1742 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:19,240 Speaker 2: Was Bell Whistle's I'm a little bit. 1743 01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,799 Speaker 3: Shocked that they even, you know, that did that slid, 1744 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:26,840 Speaker 3: you know, because the like the respect for integrity on 1745 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:31,960 Speaker 3: Jackass is so like high level that like I'm surprised 1746 01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,679 Speaker 3: that they even did that. And and other than that, 1747 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,320 Speaker 3: the like the opening sequences, like and when we're coming 1748 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:45,839 Speaker 3: through down the bridge on uh in the opening sequence 1749 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,800 Speaker 3: of the first movie, and there's like the these cannons right, 1750 01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 3: like that's like cork being shot out of you know. 1751 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:53,360 Speaker 4: Opening sequences. 1752 01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 3: You get like a little bit of you know, like 1753 01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,559 Speaker 3: we give ourselves leeway to make the opening sequence just 1754 01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:03,920 Speaker 3: so like cinematic particular right right, But there's no like 1755 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 3: deception going on in the opening sequence of this bucketless show. 1756 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got is there a Jackass esque open, dude? 1757 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,840 Speaker 4: I take opening sequences seriously as fine. 1758 01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean they're like you guys have always killed them, 1759 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,320 Speaker 1: and I love seeing the cinematic version of this. 1760 01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,040 Speaker 3: I was like, like, for me to to start this 1761 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,320 Speaker 3: third comedy special, like I want it to be like 1762 01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 3: a magnificent way that I get to the theater. So 1763 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:30,960 Speaker 3: I want to be on the on a roof and 1764 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,840 Speaker 3: a helicopter fucking drops a rope ladder. I grab the 1765 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,759 Speaker 3: rope ladder and I'm flying all around. 1766 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 4: Like through electrical cables. 1767 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,439 Speaker 3: It's like dipped in the fucking you know this, And 1768 01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,120 Speaker 3: then like I want to like let go of the 1769 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 3: rope ladder and drop from the helicopter onto the roof 1770 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:53,040 Speaker 3: of my moving tour bus so then the tour bus 1771 01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:54,200 Speaker 3: can deliver me to the show. 1772 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,600 Speaker 4: And Bill Burr's flying the helicopter. 1773 01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:58,240 Speaker 2: Amazing. 1774 01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,360 Speaker 4: We uh shot. 1775 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,400 Speaker 3: Insert shots of Bill Bird flying a helicopter that we 1776 01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:04,800 Speaker 3: cut in. 1777 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 4: You know, he wasn't plying the actual one. 1778 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,799 Speaker 3: On the day of the stunts, I had a safety 1779 01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:14,400 Speaker 3: line up through my shirt like clipping me to the ladder. 1780 01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,639 Speaker 3: I was on that fucking ladder. Oh god damn day 1781 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,800 Speaker 3: flying around on a helicopter if hypothetically I let go 1782 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,880 Speaker 3: or like I was attached to the ladder, But that 1783 01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,559 Speaker 3: didn't help me for nothing when it's my job to 1784 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,840 Speaker 3: lit go with the ladder and land on the bus man. 1785 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,040 Speaker 4: So that's that was sketchy. 1786 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:36,200 Speaker 3: And when I go through the electrical wire, the telephone 1787 01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 3: wire and all the sparks fucking go crazy, it's. 1788 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,200 Speaker 2: Pretty rare epic. 1789 01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:42,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, they did me. 1790 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,439 Speaker 3: They dip me in like a like a lake and 1791 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,280 Speaker 3: Bill Burt's like, oh, sorry, buddy, So I'm at now, 1792 01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,240 Speaker 3: I'm now, I'm soaking wet. 1793 01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,759 Speaker 4: To go through the electrical wire, which is nice, is awesome, 1794 01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,719 Speaker 4: and apparently like the like the. 1795 01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:03,880 Speaker 3: Phone company came in installed special telephone polls and wires 1796 01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,400 Speaker 3: and whatever they call the transmitters there. 1797 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,880 Speaker 2: Like the transformer transce. 1798 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,519 Speaker 4: Box, transformer, I think transformer box. 1799 01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,000 Speaker 3: And there was like a Pyro special effects guy who 1800 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,000 Speaker 3: set the charges for when I go through the wire. 1801 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,080 Speaker 4: Wow, that's only the opening sequence. 1802 01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,479 Speaker 3: There's zero fucking deception when it comes to audience members 1803 01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:23,080 Speaker 3: passing out. 1804 01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:25,920 Speaker 4: I'm not fucking faking reactions. 1805 01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,240 Speaker 3: That's some fucking fake YouTuber prank shit that I would 1806 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 3: not wish. 1807 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot of right, yeah. 1808 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,760 Speaker 3: Not me, dude, And there's no fucking trickery when I've 1809 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,200 Speaker 3: got the gen and when i'm generally anesthesia bike ride, 1810 01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:42,920 Speaker 3: I believe you. 1811 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:44,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's. 1812 01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,840 Speaker 3: Pretty fucking obvious that that that I don't fake shit. 1813 01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,879 Speaker 3: But but yeah, it's all in this this epic special 1814 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,800 Speaker 3: and and uh, it's a love story about me and 1815 01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:55,800 Speaker 3: my girl and just me doing the fucking most over 1816 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,799 Speaker 3: the top fucked up shit. It's all of my world's 1817 01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:02,160 Speaker 3: converging into one and yeah, like jackass me its stand 1818 01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,599 Speaker 3: up and it's like cool, yeah now I've. 1819 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 4: Been I'm a thirteen year stand up now. 1820 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:13,000 Speaker 3: Like yeah yeah, like let yeah, I earned my stripes, dude. 1821 01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:22,719 Speaker 4: And I want to say this to your listeners. Fuck 1822 01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,759 Speaker 4: everybody who. 1823 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 3: Just with their fucking community guidelines. Oh no, we can't 1824 01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:38,040 Speaker 3: go there. Fuck everybody who fucking doesn't. Who made me 1825 01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:42,679 Speaker 3: fucking put this out myself on my website. I want 1826 01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:48,160 Speaker 3: Netflix to know that their Puss season they fucked up. 1827 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,960 Speaker 3: Because I want this what I'm doing to be successful. 1828 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,320 Speaker 3: I guarantee your listeners that there they will not be 1829 01:39:56,439 --> 01:40:01,360 Speaker 3: disappointed in the slightest. This is absolutely the highest level 1830 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:06,960 Speaker 3: of performance art. It blows away anything I've ever done 1831 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,720 Speaker 3: in my career. You will not be disappointed. 1832 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:10,160 Speaker 2: Hell yeah. 1833 01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:14,360 Speaker 3: And by going to stevo dot com to watch this, 1834 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,160 Speaker 3: like you will have a seamless experience even like I 1835 01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,280 Speaker 3: partnered with Moment so when you did the checkout somehow 1836 01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:25,639 Speaker 3: you can watch this unbelievable filth and and have express 1837 01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:29,719 Speaker 3: checkout like one click PayPal, one click Apple pay perfect. 1838 01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah I don't even know how that's It's not like 1839 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,760 Speaker 3: a big investment, but it is a huge, huge, It's 1840 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,800 Speaker 3: not a big investment, it's a huge fuck you to 1841 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:42,080 Speaker 3: Netflix and if for this to be successful is a 1842 01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:42,880 Speaker 3: big deal for me. 1843 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm super pumped to see it. Are you? Are you 1844 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 2: proud of the results? 1845 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,200 Speaker 3: I could not be more proud of Hell yes, yeah, 1846 01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,719 Speaker 3: I literally worked on this for well over five years. 1847 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:55,439 Speaker 2: Damn. 1848 01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,559 Speaker 1: Also, it's a culmination of all the things you've done, like, yeah, 1849 01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,959 Speaker 1: new part of your story here, the new chapter story. 1850 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:08,120 Speaker 4: And each one of my specials like the like the Improvement. 1851 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:10,559 Speaker 3: I'm really glad that first one's out there just as 1852 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,320 Speaker 3: as a mile marker of where I was then and 1853 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,840 Speaker 3: how far I've come to now, you know, from from 1854 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,600 Speaker 3: the first to the second to the third, Like the 1855 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,439 Speaker 3: Improvement is is really really staggering. 1856 01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 2: Through all this ship. 1857 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,800 Speaker 1: Like because you're a stevo, do people ask you to 1858 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,400 Speaker 1: do crazy shit sometimes just like hey, will you do this? 1859 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1860 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:34,800 Speaker 3: I just got on on the cameo platform purely to 1861 01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,080 Speaker 3: donate one hundred percent of everything that I raise to 1862 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,439 Speaker 3: a buddy of mine with a disability who's trying to 1863 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,280 Speaker 3: buy a van, and. 1864 01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:44,960 Speaker 4: You know I wanted to be able to get in. 1865 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want him to go drive around getting his 1866 01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 3: dig sucked in a vanvan for that. 1867 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like last night I was like, there was 1868 01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:54,799 Speaker 4: like a cameo. 1869 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 3: I think, yo, dude, I want you to do something 1870 01:41:56,320 --> 01:42:00,640 Speaker 3: really awesome like a Mangina backflip off escape and I 1871 01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,760 Speaker 3: was I was like, you know what, buddy, no thanks man, 1872 01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:08,240 Speaker 3: not on cameo. 1873 01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be yeah, it probably would be. Yeah, 1874 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, like, uh, it's all good man. 1875 01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:16,519 Speaker 2: Well if I asked you to do something right now, 1876 01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,479 Speaker 2: would you do it? You consider it depends on what 1877 01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,880 Speaker 2: it is. Would you sign something for me? I love to? 1878 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:25,080 Speaker 4: Okay, I got a special autograph that looks like a dick. 1879 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,559 Speaker 4: I call it a dick a graph. 1880 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,479 Speaker 2: That's fine. Uh do you know how to draw it? Do? I? 1881 01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:30,880 Speaker 5: Oh? 1882 01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 4: No way, I thought that looked like some tattoo ship 1883 01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:33,840 Speaker 4: over there. 1884 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,600 Speaker 2: It is all right, let's fucking go you do. 1885 01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:39,759 Speaker 4: I'm super down. You got the old school of fucking 1886 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:44,200 Speaker 4: salty dog coil version to use one of these things 1887 01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,360 Speaker 4: I do, man, And I actually got licensed as a tattoo. 1888 01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,320 Speaker 2: It's okay. You saw that tat you had where you 1889 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,240 Speaker 2: were writing in the hummer with the. 1890 01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that shit still cracks me up to this. 1891 01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,800 Speaker 3: Stet should I do have to get this done in 1892 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 3: eight minutes whatever? 1893 01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:07,920 Speaker 1: That's Yeah, there'll be a smaller penis a right wherever 1894 01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,280 Speaker 1: You're just nothing racist right here? 1895 01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:12,800 Speaker 4: How about resign off? 1896 01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 3: Will send everybody to steabo dot com to support the 1897 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,360 Speaker 3: bucket list special check out like the trailer if you 1898 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,040 Speaker 3: want to see how it's just. 1899 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,080 Speaker 4: So fucking awesome. 1900 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:23,000 Speaker 2: Man, I'm pumped. 1901 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate everybody's support. And now we're going to do 1902 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,840 Speaker 3: a tattoo. 1903 01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:33,720 Speaker 2: Nope, yeah, it is a dicograph. It is. 1904 01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,480 Speaker 4: It's not a super erasive. 1905 01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:39,639 Speaker 2: You said your ore life, that is right. 1906 01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:45,479 Speaker 1: It's like the one time I can get away with 1907 01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,519 Speaker 1: a dick tattoo on my arm? 1908 01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,599 Speaker 2: What asshole gave you this? So my stea bo gave 1909 01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:50,920 Speaker 2: it to me. 1910 01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:59,400 Speaker 3: It's not the most aggressive, not going. 1911 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:06,240 Speaker 6: In, it's it's definitely going out. What's the story behind 1912 01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,559 Speaker 6: the dicograph? 1913 01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:15,599 Speaker 3: I practiced my autograph for years before anybody ever wanted it, 1914 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:22,080 Speaker 3: and people. 1915 01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 4: Started wanting it in year two thousand. 1916 01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:26,400 Speaker 5: But it was. 1917 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,400 Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen when this. 1918 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,880 Speaker 3: Guy says, dude, the last time you came to this 1919 01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:39,800 Speaker 3: comleague club, you fucking tattooed me. I got your signature tattooed, 1920 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,519 Speaker 3: and it's a fucking dick. And he shared man's arm 1921 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:48,120 Speaker 3: and I could see it, and I was like, man, 1922 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:52,639 Speaker 3: it was right there the whole fucking time. I had 1923 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:57,240 Speaker 3: no idea I was drawing a dick. Every time I 1924 01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:58,320 Speaker 3: did my signature. 1925 01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,240 Speaker 2: You were subconsciously drawing it dick. 1926 01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:03,439 Speaker 3: I just it was just sitting right there, and for 1927 01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:10,439 Speaker 3: fourteen fucking years, and then after twenty fourteen, I started 1928 01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:15,160 Speaker 3: really leaning into it. 1929 01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:16,520 Speaker 2: It's looking pretty good. 1930 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never done my signature that's outlined before. 1931 01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,840 Speaker 6: This isn't permanent, is it? 1932 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,040 Speaker 2: It feels very permanent. 1933 01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:38,280 Speaker 6: I mean that's white yacks. 1934 01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:42,000 Speaker 3: It's such a motherfucker like like, wouldn't you do anything 1935 01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,799 Speaker 3: you got any white man like about. 1936 01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:46,639 Speaker 6: Time? 1937 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:54,320 Speaker 2: But it's pretty good. I like this. It's like a symbol. Yeah, 1938 01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,240 Speaker 2: but it's like, no, it's actually a penis if you 1939 01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:56,880 Speaker 2: look closer. 1940 01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:10,439 Speaker 4: Thanks. 1941 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:11,559 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 1942 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,479 Speaker 1: Steve O's wild. He lived up to the hype. The 1943 01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:21,800 Speaker 1: whole tattoo idea. It originated on the plane ride to 1944 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:26,000 Speaker 1: la We were recording the interview the next day, and 1945 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,400 Speaker 1: last minute, Mike here actually had the idea of what 1946 01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:33,200 Speaker 1: if he gave you a tattoo? That sounds cool, How 1947 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,960 Speaker 1: the hell do we actually pull that off if we 1948 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,559 Speaker 1: wanted to do that. I'm thinking, okay, well, if we're 1949 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:41,280 Speaker 1: going to do that at all, we would technically need 1950 01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:45,880 Speaker 1: a tattoo guy on standby in the Airbnb that we're 1951 01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:50,200 Speaker 1: recording in, just in case he says yes, right, yeah. 1952 01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,400 Speaker 5: I honestly was not sure you could pull it off. 1953 01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:55,000 Speaker 5: I was like, how we're landing, Yeah, well we were 1954 01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,120 Speaker 5: doing the interview the next day, right, yeah. 1955 01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,960 Speaker 2: We probably landed at ten pm. The interview was at 1956 01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:01,120 Speaker 2: noon the next day. 1957 01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,240 Speaker 1: So on the plane, I posted on Instagram like, Hey, 1958 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,800 Speaker 1: any tattoo artists in the LA area who want to 1959 01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:11,120 Speaker 1: come to my airbnb tomorrow? I mean, thankfully actually some 1960 01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,000 Speaker 1: people hit me back, and by a miracle, we were 1961 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,280 Speaker 1: able to find somebody. He was clutch, came in the clutch, 1962 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,360 Speaker 1: and the way we set it up was I didn't 1963 01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,479 Speaker 1: know for sure whether Steve Hall would want to do this. Also, 1964 01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of a big ask. If he's like, hey, man, 1965 01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't feel like tattooing your arm, That's totally fine. 1966 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,160 Speaker 2: I get it. But if you're down. 1967 01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:35,000 Speaker 1: We're set up right here, and so STEVEA didn't know 1968 01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:36,280 Speaker 1: we were going to do this at all. 1969 01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for obliging. That was cool. 1970 01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,280 Speaker 1: It's healed nicely and I'll show you in a second. 1971 01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,480 Speaker 1: But I will say I have like seven eight tattoos 1972 01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:49,120 Speaker 1: on my arm. This tattoo hurt, like shit, I mean 1973 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:54,439 Speaker 1: he did, Stevelle, you did an amazing job. It's amazing job. 1974 01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,680 Speaker 1: Well away, right, yeah, there's no takebacks. This is here 1975 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 1: to stay. But it really did genuinely hurt. I don't 1976 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:03,120 Speaker 1: know if you can see it in my face. I 1977 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,880 Speaker 1: was like, ooh, okay, maybe you shouldn't have done it 1978 01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,320 Speaker 1: so big. And also my original pant was, you know, 1979 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,960 Speaker 1: to do it kind of smaller. I had a little 1980 01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,559 Speaker 1: patch of skin in between two other tattoos. I was like, hey, like, 1981 01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, maybe play it right here, and he just 1982 01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,759 Speaker 1: grabs my arm, takes a sharpie and draws it really 1983 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 1: kind of bigger than I thought, right there on my 1984 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:24,920 Speaker 1: upper arm. Okay, that works too, and he went right 1985 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 1: in with it. So it's my most painful tattoo. It 1986 01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:31,080 Speaker 1: looks kind of like a penis. But the cool thing 1987 01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:35,080 Speaker 1: is when someone goes, yeah, what's that tattoo. I get 1988 01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,840 Speaker 1: to say, I don't know, man, just Steve O gave 1989 01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:42,120 Speaker 1: it to me, all right, kind of cool, kind of cool. 1990 01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:44,959 Speaker 1: I was willing to let him draw an actual penis 1991 01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:48,240 Speaker 1: on my arm. I was hoping it wasn't going to be. 1992 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:52,720 Speaker 1: But it's less folic than it could have been, so 1993 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:55,599 Speaker 1: I appreciate that it's sealed nicely. I'll show I'll show 1994 01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:57,599 Speaker 1: you what it looks like now. It kind of looks 1995 01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:00,800 Speaker 1: like a weird symbol. It kind of reminds me of 1996 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:05,280 Speaker 1: a like a old nineties skate brand logo. What are 1997 01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:09,400 Speaker 1: those big baggy jean pants Jenks, Chinkos, Jinko's. 1998 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it means gene company, right, but I 1999 01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,840 Speaker 5: don't know. Jinko is what everybody said. Yeah, it has 2000 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,880 Speaker 5: been a no fear to it, no fear or dare 2001 01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:19,640 Speaker 5: kind of I don't know. 2002 01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,839 Speaker 1: It looks like some like some symbol that represents something 2003 01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:27,200 Speaker 1: maybe deeper than it does. But once you you know, 2004 01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:30,400 Speaker 1: once you see the penis, you can't really unsee it. 2005 01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,679 Speaker 1: But hey, I have no regrets. I I was willing 2006 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:40,280 Speaker 1: to sacrifice this little slot of my arm for the show, right, 2007 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,679 Speaker 1: for all of you, for all Yeah, for you guys. Yep, 2008 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:49,360 Speaker 1: just don't put anything efensive there. You know, I'll take 2009 01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,639 Speaker 1: anything else. Steve O was awesome. I had a blast 2010 01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,080 Speaker 1: talking to him. I really appreciate his time. 2011 01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,880 Speaker 5: Super cool, humble, and he was running late and he 2012 01:49:58,200 --> 01:49:59,040 Speaker 5: gave you a tattoo. 2013 01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if we cut that part out, 2014 01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,760 Speaker 1: but when he did agree to do the tattoo, he's like, 2015 01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:05,840 Speaker 1: well I got seven minutes. I'm like, all right, cool, 2016 01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm about to get a rushed tattoo on the whim 2017 01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,160 Speaker 1: from Steve O at his mercy. 2018 01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,120 Speaker 2: And he's stuck around for a lot longer than he did. No, 2019 01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,519 Speaker 2: he was he was super cool. He has a new 2020 01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:22,240 Speaker 2: special out now. It's it's hilarious, it's wild. I was 2021 01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,799 Speaker 2: getting pumped as he was describing it in the interview. 2022 01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:29,679 Speaker 2: Just do us a favor, go support his new content. 2023 01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,840 Speaker 2: It's crazy, wild, hilarious. 2024 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:37,400 Speaker 1: People are actually literally passing out in the stands. Not 2025 01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:41,800 Speaker 1: even a gimmick, not some joke. There's some stuff in 2026 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,479 Speaker 1: there that might make you go, oh God, why am 2027 01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:45,120 Speaker 1: I watching this? 2028 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:49,759 Speaker 2: But you should. It's good for you. It's makes you stronger. 2029 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,960 Speaker 5: We do have to say it's X rated most likely 2030 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:53,280 Speaker 5: and Yeah. 2031 01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,519 Speaker 1: It's like it's like the it's unrated, which means that 2032 01:50:55,560 --> 01:51:01,000 Speaker 1: there's no rating. That is the equivalent of how inappropriate 2033 01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,160 Speaker 1: this gets. 2034 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:05,120 Speaker 5: So watch with caution, obviously. 2035 01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that he's Steve O and he's 2036 01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:13,840 Speaker 1: famous and no other distributor would take this tells you 2037 01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:16,759 Speaker 1: how wild it really is. I want of thanks Stevo 2038 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:20,640 Speaker 1: for his time. I really appreciate that Episode two of 2039 01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,280 Speaker 1: this show is actually out now as well. One of 2040 01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:28,160 Speaker 1: my good friends, Clara McGregor, she's hilarious, She's an amazing actress. 2041 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:30,760 Speaker 1: She sat down with me and we shot the shit 2042 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:35,000 Speaker 1: for an hour and I learned so much about being 2043 01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 1: an actress, growing up with a famous dad, how other 2044 01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:43,439 Speaker 1: people are handling life right. And she had some amazing 2045 01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:49,519 Speaker 1: insights on navigating the entertainment world and just being true 2046 01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,000 Speaker 1: to yourself, which I respect the hell out of. So 2047 01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:55,600 Speaker 1: if you liked this and it wasn't too much for you, 2048 01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:57,559 Speaker 1: we're going to do a big pivot. 2049 01:51:58,520 --> 01:51:59,400 Speaker 2: Clara McGregor. 2050 01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:03,160 Speaker 1: Episode is out now and I think you'll really enjoy it. 2051 01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to talking to dus. You can follow 2052 01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,080 Speaker 1: me pay Lindzy on social media. Instagram is at payin 2053 01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:12,479 Speaker 1: Lindsey and just like TikTok, my TikTok is actually pain Lindsey. 2054 01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:16,080 Speaker 1: It's not my desired user name. There is actually a 2055 01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:20,360 Speaker 1: guy camped out on that TikTok and he has intentionally 2056 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 1: locked it up because if you look at the email 2057 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:27,200 Speaker 1: address under like in the bio of the Pain Lindsey TikTok, 2058 01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,360 Speaker 1: there's an email that says like social settlers at gmail 2059 01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,960 Speaker 1: dot com and like a locked emoji, clearly saying hey, 2060 01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:37,679 Speaker 1: if you want this, email me, well, I've emailed him 2061 01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 1: for two years straight no reply. If this is your game, 2062 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,240 Speaker 1: if this is the business that you're in, just name 2063 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:45,719 Speaker 1: the price. 2064 01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:47,000 Speaker 2: It's okay. 2065 01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:51,519 Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully this guy is okay, all right, I mean, like, 2066 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,639 Speaker 1: is he is he missing? Is he did he die? 2067 01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean that would suck, but maybe I still get 2068 01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:03,680 Speaker 1: the handle. I hope he's fine. But also if you 2069 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,280 Speaker 1: just google the email address, you'll see tons of other 2070 01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:11,000 Speaker 1: people like name brands and stuff who've posted what you'd 2071 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:14,519 Speaker 1: think would be our official account isn't because this guy's 2072 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:18,479 Speaker 1: holding on to it. I mean, at least, if you're 2073 01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:24,080 Speaker 1: gonna do this, have better customer service. Seriously, email me back. 2074 01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:28,559 Speaker 1: I'll pay you for the handle, but until then, actually 2075 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:33,120 Speaker 1: Pain Lindsey and everything for the show is going to 2076 01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:37,400 Speaker 1: be at talkingdodeathpodcast dot com. Stay tuned next week for 2077 01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:40,719 Speaker 1: a really exciting guest and go listen to episode two now. 2078 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,560 Speaker 1: If you had any fun at all, cheers. 2079 01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,920 Speaker 5: Talking to Death is a production of Tenderfoot TV and 2080 01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:55,800 Speaker 5: iHeart podcast created and hosted by Payne Lindsay. For Tenderfoot TV, 2081 01:53:56,080 --> 01:54:00,280 Speaker 5: executive producers are Payne Lindsey and Donald Albright. 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