1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast. Who's that knocking at the door. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: It's all your friends, your filthy horse, your husband's gone, 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoirs, martinis, clebri 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: book Club, Come read it while it's hot. Celebritpook Club, 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: are alloud. Celebrited book say it loud and PLoud. Celebrity 8 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: book Club, buzz Man. I brought the queer foe Hey 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: best friend, Oh my god, Lily Morata, Stephen Filipina Horst. 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're literally so popular that we're doing another 11 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: episode of our famous hotline call an episode because we 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: couldn't get there all your voicemails. It was just too 13 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: fun and we just enjoyed listening to you too much, 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: and we want to give everybody their chance to get 15 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: on this pod. So yeah, okay, Part two. Hi Stephen 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: and Lily, My name is Ginger. First of all, I'm 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: fucking obsessed with you both, obsessed with the entire pod. 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Cannot stop talking about it. Literally, people will have been 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: telling you to shut the fuck up because it's my 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: entire personality. Now, basically, I just wanted to ask you 21 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: if you could do a dinner party mashup with all 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: of the fucked up people you've been reviewing, Like who 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: would it be invited and how would the scene play out? 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: Like what do you think would happen if you brought 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: all these people together or just your favorites. Also, every 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: time I see a month pack, I lit my fucking 27 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: lid because I feel like I'm just seeing something that's 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: close to you in your heart. So anyway, thank you, 29 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: love you literally so much. Why okay, love you ginger. 30 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Obviously we're serving only a monk pack. It's a flight 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: of monk packs. Oh and it's so like you're so bloomberg, 32 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: like eating the mon pack with a knife and four Yeah. Um, well, 33 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: obviously Elizabeth Taylor is letting them know, thank yous, fall 34 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: like rain. She's not having the monk PUSH's there. She's logging. 35 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: She's logging away as we're serving tuna and grapefruit peels. 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Janice is holding court. She's obviously trying to 37 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: fuck Agassy. Yeah, she's like in a corner, she's smoking, 38 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: she's with Agassy. I think Chasten is cooking and he's 39 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: like so stressed and like sweating bullets. Yeah, and he's 40 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: doing time door sweater and it's this New York Times 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: recipe that like it's printed out. Well let's think he's 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: getting these grubby little mats all over the print out 43 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: and Okay, so it's chastin Janice. Tan is trying to 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: talk to Janice, but like she's not having word of it. 45 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: She's like trying to get fucked by Agassy. I think 46 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Tan is actually like having a long conversation with Barbara 47 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: where she's kind of pretending to be interested and she's 48 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: been like okay, but um, what about your business and 49 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: like what about like explaining that business. He'd be like, 50 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: well that just at the toy I don't have to 51 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: do that. And I think he's like making a lot 52 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: of excuses for the queer and she's like, well, what's 53 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: going on, Like what's going on the back end and 54 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: what was your contract with the contract and like what's 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: going on with the Mormon girl? And like are you 56 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna like he's a sent in. I think he's I 57 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: think with my queer contract and that blah blah, blah. 58 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: She sees right through him. Ellen is obviously like offering 59 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: money to chast In for the house, and that is 60 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: like bull dancing up. Yeah, she's trying to buy that house. 61 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm not inviting as these I was about to say, yeah, 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: but I think, like, okay, Asz's like showing up with 63 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: like empanadas that he brought from like a local like 64 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: awesome spot. Yeah No, I don't think so. I think 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: that he is like just going normal enough to know 66 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: that you don't bring food to a dinner party and 67 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: that you bring wine. Okay, so okay, he's he's a 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: super blue glue wine. He's bringing glue glue or he 69 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: is like coming with like an awesome mes call. Oh 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: maybe it is. Um David does want to turn all 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: the way up, and David Chang is definitely imbibing the 72 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: mess call. Yeah. I mean honestly, I think like a 73 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Z's and Chang are going like I think their friends 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: are going. He was on his chin and his Z's 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh who should I talk to? And like 76 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: what like chick should I David Ogilvy is having a martini. No, 77 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: he's having like shreps and rum rum what he's asking 78 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: chase it, and he's like, do you have any Puerto 79 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Rican runs? Like, oh, oh um, I have. I have 80 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: bullet Um, I have Tito's bullet and I have like 81 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: a Pride edition mouth Gay that we've never opened, and 82 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: like Ogilvy has just been like I absolutely shan't touch that. 83 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I feel like Jana's just to bring back to Jonas 84 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: and Agassi is like she's fucking him and then like 85 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: eying Olilvie and being like wait, fuck, I need to 86 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of like get in on that too. Yeah, he's 87 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: attracted to a mind. Oh and she sees I mean 88 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: he's got the money in the bank. I mean, I'm 89 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: trying to fuck via God damn. Tiguan and Sarah definitely stuff. No, 90 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 1: they're so first ones there and they're like hey, Jaston, 91 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: and they're bringing succulents that are like brand new succulents 92 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: that like have a tag on them, you know what 93 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, where you buy it a like happy housewarming 94 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: showing up with like each tiny different succulents. One of 95 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: them is drinking, one of them is like taking a 96 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: break for a month. Yes, one of them is doing 97 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: like this sober July. Wait, I know I want to 98 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: go if only we could do we flies in the Wall. Oh, 99 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lewis, Jessica Simpson, I mean Jennifer Lewis is having 100 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: a Yeah, she's having guess. I also feel like she's 101 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: kind of on a vacation, but it's still Yeah, did 102 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: she come as my question because I could see her 103 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: just setting her regrets. I'm sending my regrets. I'm in Greece. 104 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: But I feel like she's also so LGBT plus proud. Yes, 105 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: so she would support jess weirdly taking Chaston out for 106 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: drinks before of her shows. She's giving to Black Ash. Yeah, 107 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: like a studio. Yes, he's doing a studio visit at 108 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Black Ash, and she like, darling, you want to see 109 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: how the magic is made. Jessica can't come. She's in Cabo. 110 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: Dummies on the ranch. Dummy's absolutely not coming. Oh is 111 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett there? I kind of think he is well, 112 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: but he no. But wait, we got to you that 113 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: he like didn't go out. Yeah. This Boston Globe reported 114 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: we talked to said that Kevin Garnett never left his 115 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: house when he lives in Boston. He was like such 116 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: a shut in. Okay, wait yeah, Kevin Garnett obviously has 117 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: this huge type where he's entertaining his friends, but I 118 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: don't think he's going to Chastin's. Just like DC Townhouse 119 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: in Logan Circle. I think Teresa's coming in doing a 120 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: reading and leaving. She's absolutely doing a reading. Barbara is 121 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: getting a reading. Yes, well, because Barbara does taro, right, 122 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: She's definitely reaching Barbara's grandmother. Yeah, and she's coming and 123 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: then like once it's done, she takes her tape record 124 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: and he's like, thank you so much for having me 125 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: your space, have a wonderful night. I think it's similar 126 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: to the Probros. Like they'll go to the opening of 127 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: an envelope and like he's bringing Deschanel or whatever, and 128 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: like they are showing up for forty five minutes before 129 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: they're like, we actually have to go to the launch 130 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: of a non alcoholic tequila at the Moxie Hotel. Same 131 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: with Johnny Cochrane. I mean, maybe Teresa's just contacting him, 132 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: but I'll feel like Johnny is coming and shaking hands, 133 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: and he's shaking hands and then holding cord and then 134 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: having more wine. I mean he's I feel like he's 135 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: saying to stay, oh, I mean him and Barbara as 136 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: long as like the cabernets flowing, Johnny is staying. I 137 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: feel like Johnny obviously would not cheat on Doctor Dale, 138 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: but I think he'd consider Barbara. Oh, I mean absolutely, 139 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: she's coming in one of her little body condresses. God damn. 140 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: He likes a woman who's same his cochrane is that attention. 141 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: Don't forget about Kelly Cotrone. Oh my god, Kelly. She's 142 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: doing door. She's iPad, she's iPad, she's she's logging, she's reporting, 143 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: and she is I mean, she's so present at this event, 144 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: a little too present. Oh and the Bella's Oh wait, 145 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: fuck Bella's they're coming. Yeah, they're as They're an amazing guest. 146 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: I love, they're having tons of fun. She's like, seriously, 147 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: we have Chasedin's dinner really soon. Yeah, And they're getting 148 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: their big suv're getting They're getting there at like seven 149 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: ten and she's being like, I'm so sorry, we're late, 150 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: like Brie was in Bremode and then obviously like they 151 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: get in Breemood and I feel like Breemood. I feel 152 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: like Janics is likely annoyed by them. Oh absolutely, yeah, weirdly, Yeah, 153 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's this Janus thing. She's so 154 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: pissed at these like young brunettes who like didn't earn 155 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: it well, and then by the end she's like, no, 156 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: then she's actually a huge support. I do respect when 157 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: she because she hears their story and their work ethics, yes, 158 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: and that they really actually did have to work for 159 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: everything they had them. People think it was just handed 160 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: them in that wrestling is zasy and she's like, no, 161 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: you had to work, because she's so like, I paid 162 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: my dues before, I wasn't. She has noah, she thinks 163 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: they're just like dealershoes and doesn't realise their wrestlers right, 164 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: and she's like, that's actually fucking kick ass. And there's 165 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: a two girls I thought us in some requires. Okay, 166 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: we could go on about this all day. We have 167 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: to us come over soon. Okay. I'm a big fan 168 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: of your podcast and you're both of your online presences, 169 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: and I was wondering, what do you think are the 170 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: ethics of posthumously outing my ex he passed like last year, 171 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: and I stay pretty distant from the family and you know, 172 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: any friends that contacted me, because like, as far as 173 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: I know, you know, I was the only guy who 174 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: was with um and that relationship happened like years ago, 175 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: but he was like really important to me, and shit, 176 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. We were both like music so like drugs, 177 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and like maybe things got confused, maybe, like 178 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. Do you think that's like shelf 179 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: indulgent for me to like go around being like, oh, 180 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: like to his mom, like you should know the truth 181 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: about your son because like, honestly, I don't think you 182 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: would have wanted that. I don't know anyway, let me 183 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: know and then if you don't want to answer that question, 184 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: my other question is I'm living with a straight girl 185 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: for the first time. Um, come July one, and I'm scared. 186 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: Keviny advice all right, UM cool, looking forward to it 187 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: your podcast. I mean, can we stop this here? Sorry? 188 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: How long has this growing up for? No bit? No, 189 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: no move on, go to six lines, let it go, okay, 190 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: get a hobby rider roller coaster? Finding someone else? I mean, 191 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I think the only way that I thank you, thank 192 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: you for I'm obsessedify if you're a fan, and that's 193 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: beautiful and I love that we're helping you through this 194 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: tough time. And like post the passing of your accents 195 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: sounds like you hadn't dated in years. Yeah, so the 196 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: acts passed they were and I'm super sorry about that. 197 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: You were both using drugs while you were dating, right, 198 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: I just said that was a dark time. I mean, 199 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: you don't know if he came out to his cousin 200 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: or whatever, right, him and death his cousin hooked up, right, 201 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: or maybe him and his sister just like had this 202 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: really beautiful conversation like while he was dying, or I 203 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: don't know if it was an o d or if 204 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: it was like a illness where everyone didn't know what 205 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: was happening. But I just kind of assuming. I don't 206 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: know what that's going to do for his family unless 207 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: the only way in which I think it would help 208 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: if it was like a let's go there because it's 209 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: about that. If he gave me a suicide and they're 210 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: wondering why he committed suicide. Yeah, and you think he 211 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: committed suicide because he was so closeted, or now we'll 212 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: give them some sort of relief or something, or if 213 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: like he had been abused by the father and one 214 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: of the other siblings like had also been abused and 215 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: hadn't come out about it, and if you were able 216 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: to like have this whole Mayor of Eastown saga where 217 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: you like walked in on there Thanksgiving dinner and then 218 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: there was this like whole drama and everyone is like 219 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: crying in like the separate room. But then it comes 220 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: out the father was abusive and then everyone can like 221 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: start healing and you are the catalyst for that. Like maybe, 222 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: but then just like wait until you get the invite. 223 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: I guess I feel like what's really going on here 224 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: is that like you miss your X. You want some 225 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: connection to him still, so you're like, how do I 226 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: have a conversation with his family, and like that's the 227 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: easiest thing to start something else, But you could also 228 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: just email his mom. I'm kind of guessing she's more 229 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Facebook vibes though, I'm already giving this big Facebook vision. Yeah, 230 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: and you're saying, hey, what's up calling? Yeah, you know 231 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: what's up? And like maybe you ask her to remark 232 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: or maybe you just you know, or like I don't 233 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: think him and Calle you even live in the same statement, 234 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: it would just be this like message just to be 235 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: just so you know, like your FM's game. We dated 236 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: ten years ago, I think it's just a shout out 237 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: to be like, hey, I was struns through your son, 238 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Blah blah blah. Leave it at that, 239 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: and if something comes about from this messaging, that actually 240 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: is a good point. So you could send a less 241 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: descriptive message, a less revealing message that was friends with 242 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: and if they want to, you know, pull the thread 243 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: of that sweater and watch that sweater unravel, then that's 244 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: the family's choice. But I do a one hundo agree 245 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: with you, el, which is that he misses the X 246 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: and wants to have a connection. And it's like, ultimately, 247 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, you have to process that grief on your 248 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: own and with your friends and your community and your 249 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: loved one. Right, But you know they can't necessarily giving 250 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: this family this shocker. Yeah, it's not probably not going 251 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: to make you feel closer to them. So that's best 252 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: of luck, truly, best of luck. Yeah, and if you 253 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: do end up, you know, send us. I don't know 254 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: why I'm going there, but yeah, you could send a 255 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: screen grabs of the Facebook messaging that I'm suggesting. We 256 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: will ask your prepression to share if we don't roost. Yeah, 257 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: those will be really awesome on on social Okay, nice, 258 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: good pay best friends. I'm a proud club kid listening 259 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: since day one, you guys are my absolute favorites. It's 260 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: probably so much about the world. Thank you for everything 261 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: you do. So I'm especially obsessed with all the episodes 262 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: you guys have done that kind of identify the horror 263 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: of early twenty tens millennial culture PSI, the food truck 264 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: life and Amaze Balls and like Benovo's basically everything from 265 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: the Shaston episode and Disease and a bunch of others 266 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Like I just really appreciate the identification of the embarrassing, 267 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: awful hallmarks of that era that we're just now kind 268 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: of getting up space from to understand. I don't feel 269 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: like enough people are talking about this, and you guys 270 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: are doing a lot for that analysis. So, as my 271 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: number one kind of cultural critic, Chicas, what are things 272 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: that you guys think people are doing, eating, living around 273 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: now that we're going to look back on where Curtis 274 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: can start acknowledging with kind of disdain and an understanding 275 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: of the harm and problems that they cause. But like 276 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: currently we're all getting away with Also, please do is 277 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: today the Day subtitle not another political memoir? By Tulsie Gabbard. 278 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I've never read it, but I should think it's probably insane. Um, okay, 279 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: thank you, I love you, Bye, I love you too. Yeah. Wow, 280 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: thank you getting a sense that our audiences get. Yeah, 281 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: I know, and I already told you this via text message. 282 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: But I got recognized today in a coffee shop by 283 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: a gay guy. Oh oh kay. Weirdly, when you told 284 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: me that story, I thought it was a straight guy. Well, 285 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: because when you say coffee shop in dit, miss Park, 286 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: I think straight guy. It was at a coffee shop 287 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: called Coffee Mob, which was already like so straight. In 288 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: Austin two, I was already eavesdropping on his conversation with 289 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: these three like jen xers, and it was so strikes. 290 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: This guy was like, now, I was totally into the 291 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: skateboarding scene. Then I moved to this area, and then 292 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: when I came back, the skateboarding style had totally changed. 293 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: So it was already and so I was listening to 294 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: them and then right in certain communities, yes, and how 295 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: maybe the style had changed from like big shorts to 296 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: little or shorts or the reverse. And then he came 297 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: up to me. Um, anyway, Jed, if you're listening shout 298 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: out feel pretty cool. Okay, So Jed is a gay 299 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: friends with skaters, friends with skaters. He wasn't a skater. 300 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: He wasn't just like head to toete gays. No, he 301 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: was kind of more like fin and tank top and 302 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: just like sort of pretty normative Chicago. He him no 303 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: much more n a little more fairy like oh okay, 304 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: a little more like fairy South Brooklyn arts say no more. Okay, 305 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: let's get into this. What is what do we hate 306 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: about culture? Right now? Right now? Super broad question. It's 307 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: kind of putting us on the spot a little bit. 308 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, I maybe would have liked me a 309 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: little bit more specific. I feel like we do kind 310 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: of criticize cultural a lot. I don't think it really 311 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: just but I mean a little that we're twenties almost 312 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: like a read abuse of it. That's like all we 313 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: do is talk about twenty eleven like taco tease. I'm like, actually, 314 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: I guess what he's saying is what are we eating 315 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: and drinking now that like we're going to look back 316 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: on as like embarrassing? It does? You just want to 317 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: see the obvious to be like, oh yeah, I remember 318 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: when people stood in line for like a rainbow croissant, 319 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: Like that's crazy, No one's going to do that. But 320 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: that's I feel like still Lily twenty times. I mean, 321 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it's like Roman also in Roman culture, right, 322 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: I guess we still like do which we were. I 323 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: mean we love just like Broad or Mediterranean, like lemony 324 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: pantry pastas. I love lemony pantry pastas. I don't think 325 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: they were going to look back in ten years and say, oh, 326 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: can you believe that we were having lemony pantry pastas. Actually, 327 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: this is what I think. I think that turn will 328 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: be a little bit about natural wine. Do you think 329 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: natural wine is going to retreat? I think it's here 330 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: to stay. But I think we're in a boom. Yeah, 331 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: we're in a boom. And I do think that the 332 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: flavor palette is probably over indexing right now on getting 333 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: like as sour as possible, and a lot of things 334 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: are becoming like so sour and so so agree and 335 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: I agree and like, and that's happening with beer. That's 336 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: happening with hard ka everything. I was like, right, hard 337 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: kch sour ghosts beer, that's a beer type. I think 338 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: you're right that there will be a retreat from that, 339 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: and that wine will go back to being a little 340 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: bit more whiny and at more parenty like, because I 341 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: think the way we roast a mother's for like oh 342 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: and we're like oh mom and mom, and my mom's 343 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: about to open up a bottle of butter. Yeah right, 344 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: and then she Our kids, or more likely are awesome 345 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: made family nieces are going to be so like my parents' 346 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: friends are like always like trying to drink like sparkling vinegar. 347 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: The nieces in our tribe are going to make fun 348 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: of us for being so vinegree in our tastes. Yeah, okay, 349 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: well we nailed it. Thank you so much for your question, 350 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: and thank you so much for your support. Max Collar, Hi, 351 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: Stephen Lily, this is Hannah Big Santasa Pod. Since you asked, 352 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: I did lose my virgiinity in a raised car bed 353 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: next to a cardboard cutout of Obama. I have a 354 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: very important question I'm dying to know the answer to. Actually, 355 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of it's a two part, two round sort 356 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: of question. M So it's a freak Mary kill. First 357 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: round Tam France, Hunter Biden and Chicken Bouges And while 358 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: you think about that, second round Tegan and Sarah the 359 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Property Brothers and Barbara Parker and looking forward dear answers. Thanks. Okay, 360 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: I love that one is like two sets of twins 361 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: and then just Barbara. Yeah, she's got to compete against 362 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: like this one was going to be like lesbians, but 363 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: it's we're just twins. Okay, Wait, so kill Mary. First 364 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: of all, she said freak Mary kill Yeah, hell yes 365 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: to our Christian listeners. I feel like that's such a 366 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: like yes Greater Seattle, like evangelical Christian skater thing to 367 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: say freak instead of five, oh, freak Mary. Can I 368 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: talk about the race car bed first? I guess that's 369 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: also race car bed? Also sounds very bellying ham to me. 370 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: I feel like this, do you remember I'm I'm putting 371 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: one of our friends who I don't even think really 372 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: listens to on the spot, our friend I'll call her Nellon. 373 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: She like slept with this trans guy who had a 374 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: race car bed who was like forty one oh in 375 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. Yeah, and I'm wondering that was the 376 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: same person. Uh they were nightlife adjacent. I think it 377 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, I guess from this story it sounds 378 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: like this girl was not in her own bed because 379 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: it was sort of remarkable, like she didn't have this 380 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: Race carbo with the Obama cut out, So maybe it 381 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: was someone and maybe she lost her virginity for this 382 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: forty one year old trans nightlife Jason personality in the 383 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Bay Area and that kind of does that could also 384 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: be kind of her sane freakins that a fuck right. 385 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: I guess it could also be like because she's so 386 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 1: like fair saying your virginity in high school to just 387 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: like a sis man who just still has his twin 388 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: Race car bod. But it feels no, no, no, no 389 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: no no no no, no, no no no. Here's what it is. 390 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: It's they were at like someone's house and they had 391 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: sex in the like little brother's room where the and 392 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: like the mom who was like so Obama and I'm 393 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: missing BC pilled like had her Obama cut out, like 394 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: stored in the little brothers room because the little brother 395 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: was away at camp and it happened in July. That's 396 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: what happened, and I'm sorry and you need to just accept. 397 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a little more the first one to 398 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: store it's she wasn't. I'll just say this. The mom 399 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: wasn't oring her Obama stuff in the room. I think 400 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: it's more she's saying to all of her children, put 401 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: up photos of Obama. She said, cardboard cutout though. Oh 402 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: that's oh, that's insane. That's what I'm saying. That is 403 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: sometimes thank you, Okay, Okay, yeah, because actually I don't 404 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: think a traids guy in the Bay Area would have 405 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: a full cardboard cutout of Obama. I really do think 406 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: that she last some guy. Maybe it was at a party, 407 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: maybe the parents went home for the weekend, it was 408 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: a fun summer, the little brother was away at camp, 409 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: and it happened in the little brother's room. Okay, now 410 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Okay, Now the second question that 411 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: kill Mary Fushak, kill Mary Freak, sot T Hunter and 412 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: Huston Hunter obviously fuck Hunter, fuck Hunter. Wait, I mean 413 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: the being married to either of those is a favor. Honestly, 414 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm marrying Chasten and killing Tim. I know the way. 415 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: I don't want to live in Salt Lake City, and 416 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: that can like be a Mormon a Mormon and this 417 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: just like empty development sober like at least chased and 418 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: I can go to like drag Bingo with like two months. Actually, 419 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: to be honest, like, just to slape is my ideal life. 420 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: And he's this like housewife while Pete is at the 421 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: Secretary Transportation Bureau or whatever. Ryan he's improved and he's yeah, 422 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: absolutely doing drag big grow its every two months. Okay, 423 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: Mary Chasin Hunter killed him. And then Barbara Property Brothers 424 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: and whan yeah, property Teagan Barbara Barbara, I mean Barbara is. 425 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm fucking Barbara. To pass up an opportunity 426 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: to fuck Barbara Corkin would be the same madness. It's like, 427 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: although getting spit roasted about the Property Brothers, goddamn, I 428 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: just oh, I feel towered by Property Brothers. I mean 429 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: talk about a renovation, I mean and twins also, yeah, 430 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: because I've never fucked twins neither. It's thing that I've 431 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: really aspired to. I think, Okay, I'm gonna have the 432 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: probro Eiffel Tower. I am going to marry Barbara Corkran. 433 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: M what's more fab than that? Let mean, true, tell 434 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: me what is more fab than that? I know. I 435 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: guess I'm torn because I honestly would like, I feel 436 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: like I'm too similar to taking and Sarah. I'd rat 437 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: But now I think I'm fucking teaking and Sarah and 438 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm marry Barbara Corkrenk. Yeah, maybe you do that. That 439 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: just makes more sense. Obviously, I want to know what 440 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: it's like to have some for Barbarakkan, but I don't 441 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: think you want to live with the I don't really know. 442 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: That's why I thought. I was like the processing, and 443 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: I know the drama on the songwriting, like what's coming 444 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: with a new sweatshirt or something. No, it's like that's 445 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: the thing. It's like they're leaven for tour and then 446 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: coming back and being like so exhausted and designing a 447 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: sweatshirt that just says like we are Twins Pride. You're like, okay, okay, 448 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: thank you, Hannah, thank you, thanks thanks Steven, and really 449 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 1: try to leave a different message. I want to know 450 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: why sort of vibe you want to put out with 451 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: your own personal biography. Obviously, David Chain's putting out angry, 452 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: Barbara Colin's putting out Horney and the Degenerous is putting 453 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: out that she has absolutely no taste. Speaking as an 454 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: upholsterer who has done work for designers, they seem to 455 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: never have any taste. Also, love Australian makes sense. I've 456 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: said as much on Instagram. Thanks by Oh my god, 457 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm Aussie upholster. Oh my god, like why Melbourne based 458 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: upholstery business. Well now when we open up at a 459 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: Melbourne office, you can upholster it. Wait, I've never been 460 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: more excited to hear Idi Len's voice. Um wow Wow. 461 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: Not to put other calls under the bus, but bust 462 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: call yess. I'm literally vibrating Aussie upholsterer. I mean this 463 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: is how we know like we have reached poor audience 464 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: asie aupholsterer obsessed. Wow, um putting, the putting, the ruar 465 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: and rum um. Well, thank you so much for that question, 466 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: for that little quizy. He sounds like a fun guy. 467 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: Oh I would love to go on try. I'd love 468 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: to see Um, I don't even know what the question was. 469 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: And oh what well what personal vie of our personal biographers. 470 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: I love the way he kind of summarized our takes 471 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: on the different bios. Yeah, angry chang, horny corkran, no 472 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: taste Ellen. I mean obviously, and I say this all 473 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: the time, like not to be some interview, but it's 474 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: like Janis to me is the high water mark, and 475 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I wanted to be so like drug 476 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: sex and rock and roll and look like constantly like 477 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: flying to Milan and like losing your panties. Yeah, but 478 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: would it actually just be more Ellen than I'm only 479 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: talking about chairs. You want to be Janus and it's 480 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: like you do get started all like, but then it 481 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: gets a little weird and angry because you get started, 482 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: like because then it would it would just be high 483 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: beds for a full chapter. Yeah, Like it's not going 484 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: to be generalists, and you would just have three chapters 485 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: on one lamp that you didn't buy. Right, It's like, 486 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm having like more of this like Sopranos 487 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: cookbook or something. Well, okay, I think the vibe of 488 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: mine would be like hungry humor. It'd be a little 489 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: more Monique we haven't done this book, but Monique seeming 490 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: women or even more Oh, and it would just be 491 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: like listing like your top five favorite like restaurants in 492 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Airport. Yeah. Like I would want to be 493 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: about my life, but then I would also wanted to 494 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: be like tips and like funny lists and stuff like that. 495 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I love funny lists for you. I think 496 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: that is like a huge part of your bio, and 497 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: I definitely think that You're Fun is going to go 498 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: ahead and be big. Oh it's got no, it's going 499 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: to be accessible for folks of all different type of seeing. 500 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean the reality is, like I it probably is 501 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: going to be more of a Lena Dunham collection of essays. 502 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: M yeah, I think no, and give yourself. You will 503 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: have the Lena dunn collection of essays, and some essays 504 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: will be super slutty, right, but some of them will 505 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: also be so oscar wild and manifestos and angry manifestos 506 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: about high bads sir, what have you? That's my truth. 507 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be like um D L cool J bio 508 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: that I had my mom buy for me when I 509 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: was eleven, but an addition came out that had the 510 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: sex chapter removed, and she bought me that version, like 511 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: the Christian version J memoir. How have you never mentioned 512 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: the best learn memoirs? See it? You know I was 513 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: waiting for this exact moment. There's always more toothpaste than 514 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: the two wow that is sending me. I also love 515 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: that his editors made him like put all the sex 516 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: in one chapter, so that they could make a they 517 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: could make an abridge version Christian PG version PGL cool 518 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: J Wow. I wonder if you had read the sex part, 519 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: if you would be straight that shane at all. Don't 520 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: you think I'm in gay? I feel like maybe it'd 521 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: given me more like being like, oh wait, I can 522 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: like fuck someone I don't know in a dressing room. 523 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: You would have actually been more into public sex, because 524 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: obviously famously you're actually very afraid of public sex. I'm 525 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: not not afraid of public sex. When was the last 526 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: time you had any sort of exhibitionist element in your 527 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: sex life? I mean probably mid twenty tents, no twenty yeah, 528 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: a few years ago. Okay, well we're getting different numbers here. 529 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes, I'm more like bathroom based, not 530 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: like fully bathroom at a party. Yeah, it is as 531 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: crazy as you get, but you're not being bathroom in 532 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: a bar, bathroom at a party, public park, no beachees 533 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: to Sandy. Yeah that's fair. Sorry, I'm not saying I'm 534 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: not open to it, right, I do not not be 535 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: a lot more open to it if you'd read that 536 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: non custom version, and maybe I would be seeing you 537 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: on the beach. Get super sunburned the beach it away. 538 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: This episode is sponsored by zok Doc. 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So even if you do 575 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: have to wait until December, um, it will be worth it. 576 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: I have a couch and like the chair in an 577 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: Ottoman from there. Um, so yeah, I hope you gets 578 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: her daydad. And one time I saw Philip in the 579 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: McDonalds Midwood. Okay, thank you just called me Philip. I 580 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: saw Philip. Wow, that's really it's really giving me like 581 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: education administrator fell up, fell uphill up. It's Philip Philip 582 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Horse Um Andy McDonald's of Ridgewood. Well, I well, here's 583 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: the question. Believable McDonald's and Ridgewood. Are we talking about 584 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: the medals and Knickerbarker because that's bushwi. No, it's on 585 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: myrtle baby, Oh, that myrtle. Oh that McDonald's. Okay, yeah, 586 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: that McDonald's been a while, I guess, um, not for me. 587 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: I used to get off the train. I'd be like, 588 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: should I and then I wouldn't, and then you would 589 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: say yes, but that sometimes I wouldn't. Anyway, So we 590 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: got a big article head and I will say I 591 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: haven't I've never articled. I've sat on our friend Cohen's 592 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: article and it is supportive and comfortable. Yes, so I 593 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: agree with the concept. I know it's better than wayfair, 594 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: definitely better than way for But yeah, there was I'm 595 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: really glad you told me that because In the back 596 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: of my mind, I was like, what if it's all 597 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: this waiting and I order it and I get it. 598 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: You're you love to wait, though, I mean it's not 599 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: that comfortable. You're good at delayed gratification, Um, I don't. 600 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm very good at delay gratification. I'm 601 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: not as patient. Do you want it now or now 602 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: or never? Forget it? Yeah? And we just had this 603 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: discussion about me not getting the article and getting a massive, 604 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: massive low Italian sexual, which is what I truly wish 605 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: for your apartment, right, which I think is also a 606 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: gorgeous idea. I would like you to get a thirteen 607 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: thousand sectional I mean talk about delayed gratification, because now 608 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: I feel like it's between the December article or the 609 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four thirteen K sexual, but you could get 610 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: a thirteen K inspired sexual that's actually only three K 611 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: custom made by a builder. Yeah. Sexuals are mad money, though, 612 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: I guess. Okay, let's say I sell the Joybird for 613 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: eight hundred on there's joy Bird sectionals. You know what 614 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean. But when you said sexual, I wanted to 615 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: even I will be on I agree, I agree. I'm thinking, 616 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: like absolutely massive. If I'm getting sexual, I'm not just 617 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: getting no. No, I know, I know, I know, although 618 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: it's better than nothing, but yeah, no, I want this massive, 619 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: deep orange like brown loquer Marnie. Yes, no, like insanely 620 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: C sixty eight to seventy four space. It's crazy to 621 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: not have this like space shape massive. So but that 622 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: also gives me time to make the thirteen k deadline. 623 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: If I don't, you know, don't have the thirteen k 624 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: by the time the article is available, we can then 625 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: talk about it. Okay. Next call, huge fan of the pod, 626 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: longtime listener, longtime friends forever, saying sorry, I was just 627 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: closing my door. I yeah, I really love the work 628 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: he's been doing. And I'm just so excited that you 629 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: guys are reading so many books. Because I'll never forget 630 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: why I went to Stephen's house the night after I 631 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: got in the breakup. I'm going to keep it passive there. 632 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: I slept at Stevens and he had this book next 633 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: for his bed that was like about AIDS and so 634 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: just based on that, I knew he wasn't reading it 635 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 1: and it was like really dusty, and it was clear 636 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: that he had had it there like accidentally for months even, 637 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: and so it's like just insane that you're both reading 638 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: a book every week. Just really proud of you for 639 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: reading all the books and even taking notes and remembering 640 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: facts and just love your pods so much and it 641 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: gives me so much joy in life. And I can't 642 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: wait until you like review my memory whenever it comes out. 643 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: I think, Wow, thank you a friend of the bought Alex. 644 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: So accurate. Surely Alex for acknowledging what it is the 645 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: biggest burden of this Podfrost, which is actually reading books 646 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: all the time, less for you, miss pagehound over here 647 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: than for me who famously hates reading. Okay, sorry, it's yes, 648 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: I know you famously hate reading and I am a pagehound, 649 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: but like it's also still hard for me, like as 650 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: you know, I'm word challenged, like I know, and you 651 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: have undiagnosed to sexia and it's actually more I think 652 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: the dyles is more in the writing version when the 653 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: words from the from brain to pencil come out hard. 654 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, I thank you for Alex, because that's that's 655 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: just huge. And do no listeners. We don't read a 656 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: book a week normally. I know I read the idea 657 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: that I have that I had a book about aids 658 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: next to my bed. I mean, that is so meat 659 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: to not be reading that. And it was just either 660 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: like a guy it's up with left it there, or 661 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: it was just like trying to like make it look 662 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: I was probably just trying to probably the latter. It's 663 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: crop for guys to be like, yes, of course I'm 664 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: reading discourse on its Yeah, for them to be like, oh, 665 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. I'm like, yeah, I'm actually this like 666 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: gay guy who's like reading reading child with fuck me hard? Um, okay, 667 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: next call hey guys. So I was just wondering, after 668 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: all these years of being friends, what sort of mechanisms 669 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: or rituals keeps you guys going? Thanks the what obsessed 670 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: that we're like this like Lisa Arena and Harry Hamblet. 671 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,959 Speaker 1: It's like, what are rituals that like keep us going? 672 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: Like what do we try? Well, obviously we do tan 673 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: track um friend trip and it is very just like 674 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: we make sure we do get a hotel room. Yeah, 675 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: two nights a week for two nights a week, and 676 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: we go eight hours just staring each other's eyes without 677 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: laughing once. No one to be to be earnest I 678 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: mean it's Look, this sounds simple, but it's just it's 679 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: spending time together, it's keeping in touch, it's being raw, 680 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: it's being vulnerable, it's calling each other out, it's being truthful. 681 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: It's the honesty. It's the accountability, and it's the truth. 682 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're not afraid. We're not afraid to say 683 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: what we feel and to tell each other. You know what, 684 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: you look like a clown For me to say, you 685 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: look like your mother's I'm going chills already. Sorry. We 686 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: were talking about those shorts earlier and I was you 687 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: said my check mo were kind of mom. Yeah, they 688 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: were kind of mom. And it's saying those things right 689 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: and then we and then we know that. So yeah, 690 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: I think ultimately it's about honesty, all insanely raw, but 691 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: also and like I will say, like vacations, dinner, Yeah, No, No, 692 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: it's very into experience with our team and like you 693 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: absolutely need to go on like multiple trips every year 694 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: and like bring all your friends and like as Crest 695 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: and Cavalaria says, turn it up, No, it's true because 696 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: like I feel like sometimes I'm like, if it's been 697 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: a few months since we've been to a casino, I'm like, 698 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: how we've been seen each other? No, exactly, Like I 699 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: don't feel like we've been us if we haven't been 700 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: in a casino one for me, yeah, because it's not 701 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: just like oh, same old girls dinner, Like it has 702 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: to be like, no, we drove here, we went to 703 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: a casino, we tried to get in here. Listen, that's us, 704 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: that's our thing, not every friendship. Might I'm not saying 705 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: casino base. But there is something that's special to you guys, 706 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: So fine what that is, Find where you thrive the 707 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: most and just make sure to build that in. You know, 708 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: life is short, so short, right if it's like, oh, 709 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: me and my best friend, our thing used to be 710 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: just like going to graveyards and we don't do it anymore. 711 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: Now we just get dinner, go back to the graveyard. 712 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: You know. I think that people also, especially in an 713 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: adult life, like we get so in our routines and 714 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: like we don't want to be spontaneous after become schedule. 715 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: Just like, really, don't be afraid to be spontaneous, and 716 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: don't be afraid to like push for the plan. Don't 717 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: be afraid to be the friend who says I'm coming 718 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: over and picking you up. We're going to Brighton Beach. 719 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm coming over, like, we're going to like this thrift 720 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: store were you It's like, just have fun and remember 721 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,959 Speaker 1: because it's like, ultimately, you know, the best thing about 722 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 1: friendship is that you don't have to fuck the person. 723 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: That's literally the point of it. It's a little the 724 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: point of it. So it's just like you can be 725 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: as a messy and lazy, random and all over the 726 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: place as you want because you're not going to have 727 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: to just like roll your eyes the person in bed 728 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: litter and be like, oh I hate che so really 729 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: take advantage of that. Yeah, oh that's beautiful. Thank you. 730 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 1: Next call ye Stephen, And literally I love Celebrity book Club. 731 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: I when I was in an isolation with covid all 732 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: I listened to and it's happy, so happy. I can't 733 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: wait for season two. You guys are the best. My 734 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: question for you guys, if you had to pick one 735 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: dead celebrity from hell to co host the podcast with you, 736 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: who would you pick? And why? Hope you guys are 737 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: having a sexy and bloody and fun summer and I 738 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: hope to see downtown sometimes. Bye okay, hello, Hello down 739 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: t anista. Yeah, okay, I mean I feel like my 740 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: answers are obvious, but I'm just also like, well, Joan 741 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: Rivers or Liz Smith, the deceased Page six writer. Okay, wait, 742 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: but Liz Smith is also that like political like communications 743 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: person who worked on Buddha Judges campaign, and she also 744 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: like used to be a reporter. And but Liz Smith 745 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: is also I think you're right, she's the ancient and 746 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: you're talking this ancient Okay, you're not talking about this 747 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: alive like peepoog. What do you know? She's like the 748 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: biggest she's like an iconic lesbian. Okay, it's like Smith, 749 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: she's a lesbian. I think she's a lesbian. And she's 750 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: like she like created Page six okay, and she's like 751 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 1: this deceased gossipista. So she did say somebody from hell. Well, 752 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: I think people would put lizay because like she was 753 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: toxic and never of course ever like Barbara Walters was like, 754 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: get out of here, Liz Smith, right, you know. Nancy 755 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: Reagan was like, oh, I don't want Liz Smith talking 756 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: about me. No, And it's like, well, you know what, 757 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: Nancy Bagan, you should be so fucking lucky seriously. Oh wait, 758 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm dying this random communicationspanituer. There's a literal article about 759 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: Lizabeth getting confused with this CON's girl. Okay, living her dad. 760 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to break up Narrow again, 761 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 1: but you couldn't bring up her again. I mean, okay, 762 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: you want Narrow is it? Is it? And this is okay. 763 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm not to steal Blair Waldorff's answer, but Joges Sam 764 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: who was like Chopin's lover, but she was just like 765 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 1: this notorious gal about town in Paris. Oh that's fabulous, 766 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: and like because her pan was like kind of a 767 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: faggot and like was always getting tuberculosis, and like she 768 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: was just like such an entrepreneuring like girl who's going 769 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: to parties and was like a woman has an opinion 770 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: and she was like darling Anne, I'm songing a cigarette 771 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: and was just like being badass. Okay, this fucking badass 772 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: Chopin's gf right. I'm like, Chopin's not invited because like 773 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: he's a little bit although his piano playing this It's nine, 774 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: he is one of my favorite pianists. People forgot that 775 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: he actually was also a pianist. You know, he played 776 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: we are not talking enough about Chopin as a pianist. 777 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many dead people. Well there's also one. 778 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: Just in general, there's literally so many dead people. I'm 779 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: of course, I'm just being such an again ancient Palm 780 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: Springs vintage store owner fagot Kitty Kelly who wrote all 781 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: those unauthorized biographias. No, I mean you're being very celebrity 782 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: book Clay. She wrote, you know, the unauthorized by her 783 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: free of Nancy Reagan. So notra Okay, I guess I, Diana. 784 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: There's my thing about this person and the Lizabeth is 785 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: that I'm going to be a little bit like, can 786 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: you just shut up for a second. They would be 787 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 1: at my dinner party, and I'm just like, okay, you're 788 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: monopolizing the conversation and I need you to back it 789 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,479 Speaker 1: up for a second. Like, And that's why I feel 790 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: like someone who's like a little bit more like I mean, 791 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: even hello, Anne Boleyn like she was so she was 792 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: Henry the eighth second Wife, who he like he like 793 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: invented the like Church of Englint for okay, God, the 794 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: historyIn Fagotry right now is you're like, so he could 795 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: get divorced from like types of two different game memory being. 796 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm like Kenny Kelly, we are we have a thousand Gibsons, 797 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:13,439 Speaker 1: and you're just being like Chopins dear like girlfriend, Oh 798 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,439 Speaker 1: and I'm Marie and we would whisper at court. You're 799 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: the like eight year od gay who's like, who's partner 800 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 1: died of AIDS and like I'm the one who died 801 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: of AIDS. Like yeah, so true and row was fighting 802 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's watch a Elizabeth Taylor film and 803 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: you're just like darling, I'm going to read. Yeah, I'm 804 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: gonna listen to Chopin. Okay, next call Hello. My name's Alison. 805 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: I have to agree with Lily that Jimmy Moore isn't 806 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: playing Boots, and disagree with Stephen that serving can't be 807 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: that hard because gay people do it. So I bought 808 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: the James Bond book series collection at a garage sale 809 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: for something dumb and fun to read. I knew it 810 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: to expect sex as them in Racism, but it's like 811 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: way more psycho than I expected. It's fun to read, 812 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: but it's also like very fucked up. So do you 813 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: have any advice on reading things you're not politically aligned 814 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: with like a really heinous text, even maybe like chest 815 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: in Buddha Jage. Thanks by. Yeah, I was super traumatizing 816 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: reading in Justin's book. Wait, I will wait. She agrees 817 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: with me, saying, Demi's plane boots. I don't remember. I'm 818 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: wondering if like that means plane is an airplane or 819 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: plane is in like style. But I think it was 820 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: I saying she's so like white shirt and jeans. Maybe, 821 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: but I could also see you saying that she's so 822 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: plane style. I'm like, Denim Jacot, you really could go 823 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: either way. I mean, I don't know if we're really 824 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: going to give you the answer on how to read 825 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: some any problematic because it's like how to read a 826 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: problematic text. I don't know. You're having fun, sounds like 827 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: you're enjoying. Yeah, separate the art from there from the artists. Yeah, 828 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: I just keep on going. Look here's my advice. Yeah, 829 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, no one's canceling you while you're reading. I 830 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: know it's I mean, you know, people these days are terrified. 831 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're afraid to even listen to 832 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: a podcast. They're they're wanting, Now, who's gonna know I listened, 833 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: it's like, consume everything. It sounds like you want us 834 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: to cancel you. If you're having fun reading James Bond, Yeah, 835 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: just keep on reading it. No one's watching you reading 836 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: James Bond, being like, look at that problematic James reading bitch. 837 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: I just watched um Skyfall the other night because I 838 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I watch a bomb toe. I'm the 839 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: biggest Bond well lately. For I don't know why we 840 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 1: got into Bond music, but for some reason, my time 841 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: abot Bond music for a while at top ten top 842 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 1: five songs. I've started listening to only Bond the music 843 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: the past week, and so every time I leave my house, 844 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: I put on the Golden Eye Tina Turner song because 845 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: like golden it's not quite it's golden nah. And I'm 846 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: just like, I'm it's such a good stomping song. I 847 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: feel so fucking sexy. I mean, Tina Turner is like 848 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: literally queen. Absolutely those guys my mom says those legs, yeah, 849 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean, honey, they stopped. And I'm just like my 850 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: gams could take down an army. I feel super sexy. 851 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, it's just like, get into it, bitch, 852 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: ye get into it and then yeah, I mean my 853 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: other tops are like, you know, I love the new 854 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: Billie Eilish song. Yes, well and also um no not 855 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: adult garbe I love the garbage when you're like, oh yeah, yeah, 856 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: a little world is not enough. But it's just that 857 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: perfect because I mean, me crushes, she's hot stuff, hot stuff. 858 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,919 Speaker 1: What's she up to now? They're just like still doing 859 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: garbage and rot. Yeah, just like I went to Garbage concert, 860 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to Scottish Scottish Atlantic City front of the 861 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: Pop Sam. You guys went to Atlantic samar Vanessa. I 862 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: got kicked out of the Garbage concert twice. Remember this 863 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: was the night that you guys came back to the 864 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: apartment just like drunker than anyone's ever been any We 865 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: were staying in again friend of the Paul Laurens dad's property, 866 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: rental property. Vanessa was still black out. That was I 867 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: think a different okay, yeah, because this was the beginning 868 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: of her sobriety. Yeah, no, that concert made her sober. Wow, 869 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: because when you get and I remember, surely Manson was 870 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: like might let her back in or something like that 871 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: to security. Wait really yeah, fully got pulled out by security. Yeah, 872 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: because she was trying to get to the front I think, 873 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: and was so insane. And then but then like I 874 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: guess truly Manson so Scottish was like let her back in, 875 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: but then because she was being too insane and I 876 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: kicked out again. Wow yeah, boats absolutely. And then we 877 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: went to the only gay club in a c which 878 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: is that resources casino. We never every time we've been 879 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 1: to Acy, We've never been to that club. Oh we 880 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: gotta go. And I've just like been to like a 881 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: strip club. So that strip club we went to an 882 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: AC was so sad and it was like I couldn't 883 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: do topless. They were just like riding to system of 884 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 1: a down with their tops on. It was like so underpopulated. 885 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: It was like, oh yeah, I'm sorry, Okay, moving on, Max, Hi, 886 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: Stephen and Lily that this is brand I love. It's 887 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: a joy and as a light and I have never stopped. 888 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask if you had to completely give 889 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 1: the reins over to one of the celebrities whose book 890 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: you have read to redecorate your home, so you can't 891 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: do anything DAPA for everything. It's a blank check, but 892 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: they are completely redoing your space and you have to 893 00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: live in it. Who would you let do that? Also? Yeah, 894 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 1: I just think you guys a great I hope the 895 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: show go up on forever, and thank you so much 896 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: for who you are and what you's her name fran 897 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: Who just yeah, she's the name of Meg's dog. Okay, 898 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm in shock. This might be I love all of 899 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: our questions. This might be one of my favorite questions. 900 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: It was like not worth going where I thought it 901 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: was going. I really love um wow, Okay, The Blank 902 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: Check one of my favorite movies. I'm looking through the 903 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 1: list right now of people. I'm like, not Janice at all, 904 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: because it would just be so wet leather cows. No, 905 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 1: I don't want her like big puffy white leather couts 906 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 1: with like fake diamond chandeliers or whatever like glam things 907 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: she's doing. I'm not probably of others, obviously, David Chang, 908 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: some big weird mural in my house that's like badass, 909 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 1: Like I think I know. Are you gonna say, Demi Moore? Nope, 910 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: hold on, let me just double check. I'm checking. Okay, 911 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 1: I've made my decision. Oh is it Johnny Cochrane, Oh okay, 912 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 1: totally because it's very that like just it's like it's modern, 913 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: it's glass, it's nineties, like that would work in your house. 914 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: My house is so small. I don't think it can 915 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: really handle Johnny as aesthetic right. The way I see 916 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 1: Johnny is just because I guess there's like glass and 917 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 1: it could feel like very like fun and entertaining, and 918 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: it's like comfortable but stylish. It feels very that Instagram 919 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: at the eighties interiors, you know what I mean. Yeah, 920 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: I mean I love that Instagram and I would love 921 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: that for my house. But I'm just like, I think 922 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 1: all the French who want would be like too big. 923 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, your couch is bigger than your joy bird 924 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: is because of my joy birds. Well, I mean you 925 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,240 Speaker 1: need a bigger hatch. I've talked well, we've talked about this, Okay. 926 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna say Twain. Okay, So when we did 927 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,959 Speaker 1: the Shy Twin episode, we said it was like, so, 928 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, much more Swiss, and then like when we 929 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 1: saw her TikTok, we found it was like a little 930 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: more Boho. Yeah, why that is? I wonder what you're 931 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,879 Speaker 1: leaning towards, Like do you want that? It's a little 932 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of both though, because I'm kind 933 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: of more about how actually do have a Yeah, you 934 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: began the boat when Mary Kay and now she came 935 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: on the scene. You the necklaces, the beads, your brother, 936 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: I was completely insane. And I think that I would 937 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: benefit from a little bit of her wealth. I would 938 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: I would love her to be like I'm going to 939 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: do this twenty thousand dollars chair or whatever. Yeah, but 940 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: I think that she has a mix of naturals of 941 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 1: like natural materials and then like modern stuff that I 942 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: think would that I respond to. I totally agree, and 943 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 1: I think the reason why also we chose, like both 944 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: of us chose like the Johnny and the Chnai because 945 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of our celebrities, as we say, 946 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 1: like that we've done like the Sharon, the Demi, and 947 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: like they're like Buddha, or we have Jennifer Lewis or 948 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,280 Speaker 1: Janis who are just gonna be white leather couch. Yeah, 949 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: they have this a little bit more like blanket. Yeah, 950 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: celebrity style of these different ways. And it's like I 951 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: do think, right, it's like Shannaia is getting a fun blanket, 952 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: but she's also doing she's getting a glam augr piece 953 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: and it's like both her and Johnny I think have 954 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: more of a vision than they're not just general Buddha 955 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: or like general like glam Kardashi my mother. Right, it's 956 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: a really good question, really good obviously don't want the property, 957 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: but in here putting what like grave floor now that 958 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: those grave floors disgusting. Um second runner up, the Garnett, 959 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: just to experience an athlete's mansion, to be in such 960 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 1: a big furniture as they have to redo your current apartment, 961 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,800 Speaker 1: so like that's not even a question like Kevin Garnet 962 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: would No, he would offend either either of our apartments, 963 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: but just to I'm just saying the feeling of living 964 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: inside an athlete's mansion and how big everything would be, 965 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: like everything would be so comfortable to the fridges would 966 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: be so stocked with different gatorates and Fineman waters and 967 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: essentias and kombucha's, and the couch would have like eight 968 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: cup holders and chargers and like so many armrests. Yeah, 969 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: so okay, next question, I think this is our last one. 970 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, in such a journey coming. Thank you 971 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: for so much for calling. Hey, Stephen and Lily love 972 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: the pod. So the recent episode with Danny Meyer got 973 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: me thinking that Lagato Romeolo's his dog are clearly lace 974 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: curtain Italian dogs, and it made me wonder, Lily, your 975 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: father cance certain Italian shanty Italian or either of those 976 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: even a thing? And can you explain maybe a little 977 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: bit more about me balls on Thanksgiving? Okay, b besties, Thanks, 978 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: thanks bestie. Um that's an amazing question. I mean, here's 979 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: the thing about my father, and thank you for bringing 980 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: this up. He's absolutely came from shanty Italian, which made 981 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: his personality want to be I'll call it Japanese screen Italian. 982 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 1: He was so ashamed of his immigrant status. You know. 983 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: His mother worked in a factory. His father worked in 984 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: a factory. His mother was her head thrown against the 985 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: walls in the factory, got mercury poisoning from the hats. 986 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: You know, Millinari factory, right, Millinari factory they put they 987 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: used to put a lot of mercury in hatt of mercury. 988 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: Who says his father could hold a hardly read. He 989 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 1: was so ashamed by that, you know, and so he 990 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: worked had waked at graduated college high school at sixteen. 991 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: He was shanty. He would have been two boats. He 992 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: would have been two boats or they have to stop 993 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: at Newfoundland to work for you know, six months and 994 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: then get back on the boat. And it made him 995 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 1: become He gave him that immigrant drive, gromming the Bronx 996 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: in a similar way to the way that my mom 997 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 1: cosplays as wasp or because you grew up poor Catholic. 998 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 1: It's like you have this fantasy that you are trying 999 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: to create. Right, it becomes your personality, right, like as 1000 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: your mother. Right is like I want to learn French. 1001 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: I want to collect, you know, wines because I grew 1002 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: up you know, porn and la eating spam. Right, I 1003 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: want to tile up in my kitchen that says bul 1004 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: right and um when I saw this is a sidebar, 1005 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: I went to this state sale this past weekend. I 1006 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: got that photo and they had the exact same kitchen 1007 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: that you had growing up, where above the stove is 1008 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: covered in tiles that say French words that a shabby. 1009 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how do you say asparagus in French. 1010 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: It was funny because like some of them, it wasn't 1011 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 1: all just wines like there would be. Yeah, it was 1012 00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: more like bagatto random but then you know it's clearly 1013 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: he kept some of those traditions, like the meatballs at Thanksgiving, 1014 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: because my mom says that, Yeah, when she would go 1015 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: when she went to his Thanksgiving, it was it was meatballs, 1016 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: it was you know, anti pasta lasagna, then the turkey. 1017 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: So you were just pregaming like American Thanksgiving with like 1018 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: a little Italian feast, I think, tons of Italian food, 1019 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: and then they're like, well, we gotta do the turkey, 1020 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: so let's do it right, because my mom was like, 1021 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,439 Speaker 1: have to do this while we're here. Yeah, while we're here, 1022 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: like we want the American dream, and then always on 1023 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, Thanksgiving. Most of my father we did stuff shells. 1024 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 1: So it evolved post divorce, it was just like the 1025 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: turkey got dropped. Yeah, both my parents kind of dropped 1026 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 1: the turkey. It's almost like when they were married, it's like, oh, 1027 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: we have to do this turkey thing. And it's like, well, 1028 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: clearly you guys, neither of you really loved the turkey. 1029 01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Because we're all in, release yourself from the turkey. Your 1030 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: marriage will survive. I wonder if they had, just if 1031 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: they'd both been like, yeah, neither of us love turkey, 1032 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: let's make maybe they would still be together. Yeah. Wow, 1033 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: thank you ruining on that. Yeah, think about that your 1034 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving traditions. Okay, maybe your parents are doing stuff that 1035 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 1: just celebrate the colonizers and kills them on the inside. 1036 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: And they're just doing it because just logging through this turkey, 1037 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: eating them up inside. Make some meatballs, make them a 1038 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: roccante gene. Yeah, maybe me like some braided shrimp with 1039 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Thai basil chili lime and a and a carrot soup. 1040 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Play and I um smalina a searle pie, super ducky, 1041 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 1: super eggy. I just drink cannat because that's what I 1042 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: did drink right now. I'm sorry. I follow the roles 1043 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: and it grows with everything. Oops. So yeah, yeah, all right, 1044 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: thanks moving your way is kind of the lesson to 1045 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: this question. Thank you so much for that call, and 1046 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 1: thank you for all these calls. Yeah, thank you for 1047 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: all these calls in the detail and listening, and it 1048 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: warms my hat, truly, wives, my little black deal, my 1049 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: tiny ice cold hat. Um. Next week's book is a 1050 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 1: little bit of all. Yeah, we're doing poetry, that's right. 1051 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: We are intellectual. Not only do we read books, but 1052 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: we read poetry. Nice celebrities in this case Joel you 1053 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: know her from Alaska, you know her from songwriter guitar stuff. Um, 1054 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: she's a lyricist, she's a songwriter. She's a woman, she's 1055 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: a feminist, and she's a poet. Yes, she's a traveler, 1056 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: she's an icon. She's a sexual woman. And her book 1057 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: is called A Night Without Armor, which is very poem. 1058 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: This one you really can read along with it though. 1059 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: It's a really rare book. Oh, it's hard to find. 1060 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Hard to find. I found it at a thrift store Ridgewood. 1061 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: It's out of print or use bookstore. So yeah, if 1062 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: you're in Ridgewood to us. They got it at a 1063 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: top us And I screamed when I saw it. I 1064 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: was out of poetry reading. Wow, that's so spirit Yeah, 1065 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: and I saw it and I screamed, and I was like, 1066 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm buying this And the woman was like, whoa simmer? 1067 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: But also I'm excited, Like you're excited. I love that 1068 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: you love books. But down, we're in a really quiet 1069 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: space right now. Wait and that was before we even 1070 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 1: had the spot. Oh I want to say two years before. Yeah. Absolutely, 1071 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: here we are here. We are reading Jules book of poetry. 1072 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: So tune it. You guys are the reason we got 1073 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,479 Speaker 1: up in the seriously, keep us going, keep you keep 1074 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 1: me rocking in this free world. Oh, our skin has 1075 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: never looked better since this podcast. It's broken up. It's 1076 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: as dewy as an Irish morning, not dry as the 1077 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 1: wheat feeling of Tusk Shaney, like a padagord the end 1078 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: of a little lesbian Leprokan's rainbow. Alrighty, then, love you guys, 1079 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Love you guys so much. Keep got to go before 1080 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 1: we get to earnest. Yeah, keep interacting. Absolutely, interaction is fun. 1081 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 1: We will also be interacting. 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