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Speaker 2: into this Sunday expecting to have a game to kick

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. But yesterday the decision that had to be

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Speaker 2: made was made to move that game to Monday. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I just saw rich little video of a news reporter,

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Speaker 2: see the stadium behind her at all. It was complete

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Speaker 2: white out, blizzard situation in Buffalo. So there was no

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Speaker 2: way they were going to be able to play a

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Speaker 2: game today. Tomorrow again, that game will kick off four

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Speaker 2: thirty Eastern time. They're saying now the temperatures will be

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Speaker 2: situation they have today in Buffalo will now be snow floorries.

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Speaker 2: They'll be snow tomorrow. But unfortunately for us here, we

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Speaker 2: all ready to go for a game and we're not

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Speaker 2: going to have a game for three and a half hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we WI will kick off the afternoon slate

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Speaker 1: as we normally do, and normally we're joining something like

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Speaker 1: five or six games kicking off in that slate. Last

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Speaker 1: week it was much more than that, a lighter early slate,

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Speaker 1: and when the playoffs come around, you get to solely

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Speaker 1: focus on one at a time, and that's what we

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Speaker 1: did yesterday. And we'll get to those games between the

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Speaker 1: Browns and the Texans, the Dolphins and the Chiefs. But

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Speaker 1: to comment on Steelers Buffalo today, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people online on Twitter, which is where civil discourse goes

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Speaker 1: to die, who were talking about how this is what

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Speaker 1: football weather looks like in the state of New York

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Speaker 1: and the city of Buffalo are soft than the Bills.

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Speaker 1: They got they got a real advantage here playing the

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Speaker 1: Steelers on Monday and all these things. Right, It's interesting

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Speaker 1: I look at it. I almost look at it differently

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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of, you know, traveling the way NFL

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Speaker 1: teams do oftentimes like it can be a little bit

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Speaker 1: disjointing for certain players where you know you're you're in

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Speaker 1: and you're out. You know, you come in, you fly in,

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Speaker 1: you have a couple of quick meetings, you don't really

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Speaker 1: then before you know it's kickoff time. There are certain

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Speaker 1: players who may benefit from having an extra down the road.

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Speaker 1: I know I certainly appreciated it when we left a

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Speaker 1: day in advance to go on the longer trips cross

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Speaker 1: country flights and you had two days in the location

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Speaker 1: I always did. I liked it better. But you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody's different, and I'm sure there are certain players who

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Speaker 1: will look at this differently. And I'm sure there are

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Speaker 1: certain odds makers or people who you know, have an

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Speaker 1: concerned about the fact that this was postponed.

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Speaker 2: By the way, one of the owners that did that

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Speaker 2: first was my former boss, Al Davis. We always got

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Speaker 2: an extra day on the road. Always want that extra day.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at what happened yesterday in the

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Speaker 2: two games, one an expected outcome, the other an unexpected outcome.

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Speaker 2: Certainly in the magnitude of the victory that the Houston

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Speaker 1: You know, we get back to CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud and the kind of rookie season he had and

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Speaker 2: I saw this stat that was amazing to me.

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Speaker 1: So this year CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud led the NFL in passing yards per game. Remember

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Speaker 2: he missed some games, that's why he didn't the lead

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Speaker 2: He also led the league in touchdown pass to interception ratio.

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Speaker 2: He was only the third quarterback in NFL history to

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Speaker 2: Joe Montana and Tom Brady, Yeah, who combined won eleven

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Speaker 2: This kid did it as a rookie and his first

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Speaker 2: but we're talking about c J. Stroud is already done things.

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Speaker 2: They no quarterback at this point, one year into their

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Speaker 1: But it was about their defense. Oh no, their defense

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Speaker 2: Stroud in a playoff game, yep, shredded him, absolutely shredded him.

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Speaker 2: So I'm the superlatives that we've talked about all season

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Speaker 1: So Stroud is the youngest quarterback to win a playoff

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Speaker 1: game at twenty two years in one hundred and two days.

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Speaker 1: He's the highest drafted rookie quarterback to win a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: In this his first playoff game ever, the Texans scored

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Speaker 1: led the Texans to a largest margin of victory in

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Speaker 1: So this sixteen of twenty one passing for two seventy

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Speaker 1: he's only played less than a season so far. C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud is was the best quarterback on any field yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and that includes Joe Flacco, a Super Bowl winner and

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback on the field as a rookie. It's insane.

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Speaker 1: Look Tua. For everything we say about Tua was on

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Speaker 1: The rookie outshined all three of them.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have a situation now as we head into

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Speaker 1: Yes they should. They're red hot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, they're red hot. Remember this about Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo not only won their last five in a row.

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Speaker 2: You talk about a team that has nothing to lose,

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Speaker 2: I mean when you have a matchup where the Ravens

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Speaker 2: That's a scary matchup when you have a quarterback like

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Speaker 2: He made a couple of throws. He had a little

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Speaker 1: Something that cannot be taught.

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Speaker 2: Now we talk about the the X factor with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: and I remember Norm Chow, the longtime offensive coordinator BYU

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Speaker 1: But it's that.

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Speaker 2: Instant decision making. It cannot be taught.

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Speaker 3: Well if.

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Speaker 1: This second of what to do with the football. One

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Speaker 1: of the biggest reasons why teams were getting off of CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud pre draft was because he failed that cognitive exam

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Speaker 1: that apparently was so highly touted that he had scored

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Speaker 1: And everybody's like, well, it's not just a paper exam.

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Speaker 1: answer was always no, obviously not, And so what does

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Speaker 1: it matter? You advise? You watch this guy for two

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Speaker 2: You remember his last game, do you against Georgia, my goodness,

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Speaker 2: which was the best game of his career? And like

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Speaker 2: you scorer was called the C nineteen tests or whatever

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Speaker 2: this dominant defense featuring all these future first round picks,

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Speaker 2: he ate them alive.

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Speaker 1: We may see a Bill's techs AFC championship game. We

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Speaker 1: again we're talking about momentum. The Steelers don't look like

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Speaker 2: On the other side, the defending Super Bowl champions got

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Speaker 1: The problem with that is, if you're gonna get aggressive,

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Speaker 2: But I did like what I saw from the chiefs.

438
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Speaker 2: They were they were even talking about this whole idea

439
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Speaker 2: about the cold.

440
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, we.

441
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Speaker 2: We sit here, I was talking to you from yesterday

442
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: about when you're in the locker room and doing your

443
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: pregame ritual, right, whatever each individual does to get themselves

444
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: ready to you know, go out there for the uh

445
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: train car wreck. They're going to play it. And you

446
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: can't let that enter your mind about the weather.

447
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Speaker 1: You can't.

448
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: Now when you walk outside and realize, holy crap, there's

449
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 2: cold and then there's ridiculous, then it might enter into you.

450
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Speaker 2: By the way, quick question for you, Yeah, so and

451
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Speaker 2: and by the way, when I think back to the

452
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Speaker 2: Ice Bowl, the Packers and the Cowboys in that sixty

453
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: seven title game, which temperature wise is the coldest game ever,

454
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: it was minus thirteen degrees minus fifteen at one point,

455
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Speaker 2: and they didn't have the equipment you have now. They

456
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: didn't have the systems on the sidelines to warm you up.

457
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: And that field they actually had a heating system that

458
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Speaker 2: had just been installed at lambeau Field. Lombardi was wild

459
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Speaker 2: about it, but they put a tarp over the whole

460
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Speaker 2: field the night before the game. When they took the

461
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Speaker 2: tarp off, it was ice, Oh my gosh, and there

462
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Speaker 2: was no way.

463
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Speaker 1: So we're you were literally playing.

464
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Speaker 2: On ice on like a sheet of ice with fifteen

465
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Speaker 2: below zero temperature windshills in the negative forties. Can you

466
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Speaker 2: imagine with the equipment or lack of they had in

467
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Speaker 2: the day, just hitting the ground.

468
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Speaker 1: No, no, look, look there have been advances in technology.

469
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Speaker 1: Obviously we didn't even get to Mahomes. Part of his

470
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: helmet cracked off. Yeah, but better hit the helmet than

471
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Speaker 1: his had, by the way. But like, there have been

472
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Speaker 1: so many advances, and there have been so many accommodations

473
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Speaker 1: made for player health and safety. Warm, warm benches on

474
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Speaker 1: the sideline, helmet heaters, hand heaters, ambient heaters, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: the sideline in different spots. It's gonna sound bizarre, but

476
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Speaker 1: I'm sure some of the Kansas City players have felt

477
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Speaker 1: this way because I knew I did. At different times

478
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Speaker 1: the bench is actually too warm, Like you want to

479
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: get up and you want to like jump around and

480
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Speaker 1: like get back into the cold a little bit because

481
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Speaker 1: you realize, like I'm gonna get off this bench. I'm

482
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Speaker 1: gonna go out there. I'm gonna be like, I'm not

483
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Speaker 1: gonna be used to that one.

484
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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's very similar to this. And by the way,

485
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Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now. I want

486
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Speaker 2: to bring Moncey in on this conversation. So MANCEI, you

487
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Speaker 2: know how it is like your your pool side, right,

488
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Speaker 2: You're laying out in the sun, you're all sun bathing,

489
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Speaker 2: and then then you go into the pool and it's

490
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Speaker 2: ice cold, and it takes a while for you to

491
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Speaker 2: sort of adjust, and then you feel good and you're

492
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Speaker 2: in the pool for a while. Now you come out

493
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Speaker 2: of the pool and lay out in the sun again,

494
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Speaker 2: and when you go back in the pool now it's

495
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Speaker 2: twice as cold as it was before. I would imagine

496
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Speaker 2: the same thing on the sideline. You've warmed your body up.

497
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Speaker 2: Now you go back out of the field, it's even colder, yeah,

498
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Speaker 2: than it was before.

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Speaker 1: And nobody likes it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

501
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Speaker 6: I was actually saying yesterday that I feel the fans obviously,

502
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 6: but the players that aren't always playing that are on

503
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Speaker 6: the sideline having to be ready.

504
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Speaker 7: Without moving like that's not moving in.

505
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Speaker 6: The cold, has to be worse than actually, you know,

506
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Speaker 6: playing in the cold.

507
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Speaker 7: So I feel bad for everybody on the sideline. It

508
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 7: has to kind of like be ready to go at

509
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 7: any given moment. You're just frozen.

510
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Speaker 1: There's no way. There's a bunch of like backup tight

511
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: ends and like defensive backs. You're on the kickoff cover,

512
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: punt cover teams who their job is four times a game,

513
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: maybe six times, I hope full times a game you're

514
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: running a forty yards bent as best you can and

515
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: then clabbering somebody down field, and then that's it. And

516
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: then that's it. Oh what about another twenty minutes? What

517
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: about halftime? Right right?

518
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Speaker 2: But you're freezing and you finally get into the warm

519
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 2: locker room and now you've got to go back out there.

520
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Speaker 7: It's like absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I remember, I'm good. I forget that what team I

522
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: was playing with or for, But I remember at halftime

523
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: one of the guys was so cold he stripped down

524
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: and he hopped in a shower to warm up during halftime.

525
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: What he didn't realize is when you start losing fit

526
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: and feeling to extremities, it feels like razor blue yes

527
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: your skin when you get into super hot water so

528
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: he turned he cranked out that shower on hot hot,

529
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: and he got it. And then all we hear is

530
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: just from the shower in stall. You know ide what

531
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Speaker 1: he was doing.

532
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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I don't know how you guys do that?

533
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 7: Like more power to you.

534
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that islem And by the way, so Taylor Swift

535
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: got her hair time and apparently they kept the window

536
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: open on the booth. Part of the problem was if

537
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: he kept the windows closed because it's ice cold outside,

538
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: it just fogs up, right, so you can't see any

539
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: He saw people trying to wipe off the fog inside.

540
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: It's like, no, dude, you're not gonna eat. That's like

541
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Speaker 2: your bread. As long as you're breathing in there and

542
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: it's negative seven outside, it's gonna fog up.

543
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: You've got to keep those windows up.

544
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Speaker 2: So she was a trooper, Yeah, you know, she was

545
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: decked out in her I customerzz. Yeah.

546
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Speaker 7: Her jacket was made by the wife of a player.

547
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Speaker 7: I think I.

548
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Speaker 1: Read yeah, Kyle Juice, Jacky Oliver, Yes.

549
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 6: And I guess you made more than like you know,

550
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 6: all for the ladies. Everyone had their own number. Yes,

551
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 6: I know.

552
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: She was bumming love with Kelsey's mom. And everything.

553
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 7: I would have done the same thing.

554
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 6: Let me tell you I love two NFL games today,

555
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 6: fellas to continue Super wild Card weekend. First, it's the

556
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 6: Cowboys and the Packers that starts at four thirty pm

557
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 6: Eastern time. Then it's Jared Goff Matthew Stafford against each other.

558
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 6: Lions are gonna take on the Rams. It all starts

559
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 6: at eight pm Eastern time. And it looks like tight

560
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 6: ends Sam Laporta of Detroit. It looks like he's trending

561
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 6: in the right direction to play tonight. He's been dealing

562
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 6: with the bone bruis and hyper extended knee. He will

563
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 6: likely wear a brace. We do have some college hoops

564
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Speaker 6: going on right now. Top twenty five, Number four Yukon

565
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Speaker 6: beating Georgetown fifty five to forty eight halfway through the

566
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Speaker 6: second half, and number twenty four Floor to Atlantic up

567
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 6: on you ab seventy four to fifty nine seven minutes

568
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Speaker 6: to go in the game. And then we got Wichita

569
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Speaker 6: State holding on to a two point lead over Number

570
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Speaker 6: thirteen Memphis thirty six to thirty four five minutes to

571
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Speaker 6: go in the first half. And in college football, Michigan

572
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Speaker 6: Stars running back Blake Korum he posted a video on

573
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Speaker 6: social media thanking Michigan officially declaring for the NFL, dropped

574
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Speaker 6: his quarterback JJ McCarthy with a letter to his Michigan

575
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Speaker 6: family titled three deep Breaths.

576
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Speaker 7: Guys.

577
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 6: I can't deal with these goodbye things because I get emotional.

578
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 7: I literally was like about to cry with JJ McCarthy's letter.

579
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Speaker 6: And I'm not even a Michigan fan, and I'm like

580
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 6: taking three deep breaths with him.

581
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Speaker 7: Okay, let me tell you so. I can't. I can't.

582
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 7: I get emotional with these goodbye letters back to you, guys.

583
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Speaker 2: He lost one game as a starter, that horrific loss

584
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: to TCU. I still, how did they lose that game

585
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: to TCU last year?

586
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: Actually? What was in the National Championship game? Yeah? The

587
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 1: horn Frogs? Who sixty five seven? Oh Mike, because how

588
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: they lost to your all.

589
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: Right, Monzie, thank you so much. We'll check in with

590
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: you a little bit later on. Once again, this is

591
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger.

592
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: All right, we're going to get to previews of the

593
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Speaker 2: games coming up today. We'll have much more in the NFL,

594
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: but I got to get to some of these coaching

595
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: hires and fires. All right, so a week ago, you're

596
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: trying to hang on to the idea that Belichick would

597
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: be retained.

598
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: I love this.

599
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Pro Football Talk and they have a

600
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: nice rundown of the eight teams that let their coaches go,

601
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: some let their general managers go, and all the interviews

602
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: they've had since expected interviews. New England's is one line.

603
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: Parted ways with head coach Bill Belichick on January eleventh,

604
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: hired Girod Mayo as head coach on January twelfth. All right,

605
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: so let's talk about Belichick for a moment here. This

606
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: was very interesting. I like parted ways. He was fired,

607
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: and what was made clear about this about Bob Kraft.

608
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: So they come out on stage together, right, and there

609
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: was some hugging and obviously a great appreciation for Belichick

610
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: has done twenty four years as head coach, six Super Bowl.

611
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: Titles and everything else.

612
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: But as soon as Bob Kraft just spoke on his own,

613
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: he just kept going on and on and on about

614
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: how disappointing the last three or four years have been,

615
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: how unacceptable the last three or four years have been,

616
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: How as the care takers of this organization, we owe

617
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: it to the fans to do much better than the

618
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: last three or four I mean, he kept saying three

619
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: or four years, four years everything else. He made it

620
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: clear that it was time for a change, and they

621
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Speaker 2: didn't waste any time in Amy Mayo as the replacement.

622
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Speaker 2: And by the way, the symmetry with him and Demiko

623
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: Ryans is amazing. They were both defensive rookies of the year.

624
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: Of course, Demiko with the Texans and returns to the organization.

625
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: They're young coaches, They're very popular with the players out there.

626
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Speaker 2: I just wonder, from your sake, knowing the Patriots organization,

627
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: if Demico Ryan's success in Houston had some bearing on

628
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: the idea of going with someone like Mayo who's never

629
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Speaker 2: been a coordinator, to become the next head coach of

630
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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I think it had some impact. I don't think it. Look,

632
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Speaker 1: I mean, Sean McVay was extraordinarily young when he took

633
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: on the head coaching position with the Rams. We've seen

634
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: other younger men get coaching head coaching jobs in the

635
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: NFL recently. Kevin O'Connell comes to mind. You know, So

636
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: this isn't the rarity or the novelty that it once was.

637
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: I think it's actually going to become more common because

638
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: we just saw Antonio Pierce become elevated as interim and

639
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: it appears like he's a leading candidate with the Las

640
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. Maybe not as young as Demico Ryans, but

641
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce certainly on the younger end in terms of coaches.

642
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: You know, you look at Pete Carroll, who's a seventy

643
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: year old man who loses his job. I mean, he's

644
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: he's going to be replaced absolutely by someone younger. You

645
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: can't get any older. So it's it's one of those things.

646
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: I think owners are looking at their locker rooms and

647
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: they're saying, these locker rooms need to be treated differently

648
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: than they ever were. These players aren't going to bend

649
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: the knee to the will of a head coach who

650
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: runs his organization with an iron fist, and I think

651
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: that is accurate. I think that is an accurate portrayal

652
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: of how college football players are coming into the NFL.

653
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: They're coming into the NFL a little bit more expectant.

654
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: They're coming into the NFL not looking to prove themselves

655
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Speaker 1: to these NFL coaches so much as asking these NFL coaches,

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Speaker 1: how can you change your program to suit my needs better?

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Speaker 1: And that's a real thing, and you're seeing it offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 1: They are changing their schemes to suit quarterbacks. It never

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Speaker 1: used to be that way, I mean, and it never

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Speaker 1: was that way ten years ago. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: we've seen an influx of new blood at offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys have bounced around the league for

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Speaker 1: a little while, some of them have been elevated from

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Speaker 1: the college ranks to take on coordinating jobs. But if

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Speaker 1: they're making one thing clear, it's we're gonna curtail our

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Speaker 1: offense to the skill set of our players, whether that's quarterback, receiver,

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Speaker 1: tight end. If we have a star, we're going to

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Speaker 1: try to make that star look really good in our system.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to wait until that star learns our system,

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Speaker 1: and if he can't, we're going to move off of

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Speaker 1: that star. And so that is I think an edict

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Speaker 1: passed down by many of these NFL owners. You make

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Speaker 1: it work with the stars we have, otherwise I find

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Speaker 1: someone who will or it is just really survival because

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Speaker 1: a lot of these NFL coaches who get moved on

676
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Speaker 1: from are seeing Oh well, the reason why is because

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Speaker 1: they drafted that first round kid and he never panned

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Speaker 1: out and the head coach got blamed for it.

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Speaker 2: An interesting twist on the Patriots move of getting rid

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Speaker 2: of Belichick is this, he was also the general manager

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Speaker 2: of the team.

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Speaker 1: So you hire a coach.

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Speaker 2: Normally you bring in a general manager and then the

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Speaker 2: general manager has a say in the hiring of the coach.

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Speaker 2: Now the Patriots are suggesting they will not have a

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Speaker 2: general manager. So they have the third pick in the draft,

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Speaker 2: and they at least at this point, are just gonna

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Speaker 2: have their director, player personnel, college personnel call the shots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's anticipated by team sources. This from Phil Perry

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Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston that Matt grow and Elliott Wolf will

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Speaker 1: remain with the Patriots and have prominent roles in personnel. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so no general manager. It looks like it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a committee.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so two years ago you had no offensive coordinator

695
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Speaker 2: and use a defensive coordinators your offensive coordinator setting back,

696
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Speaker 2: you're at once promising young quarterback to the point of

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Speaker 2: no return. This is an insanely important pick, obviously for

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. I mean, when you think about

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Speaker 2: this draft, and if you look at the order of

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Speaker 2: this NFL draft right now, Okay, I'm going to just

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Speaker 2: make sure I've got everything in order here. So the

702
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Speaker 2: Patriots are sitting there at number three, the Commanders are

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Speaker 2: at two, and of course the Bears have Carolina's pick

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Speaker 2: at number one. A lot of what's going to happen

705
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Speaker 2: here is what's going to happen with the Bears. Are

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Speaker 2: the Bears going to stand? Pat Iberflus is staying on

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Speaker 2: as the coach they've hired. They fired the general, the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. I got to believe they look at him

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Speaker 2: and say, we went from three wins to seven. That's

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Speaker 2: a move in the right direction, right, Yeah, that's a

711
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Speaker 2: four game improvement over the previous year. And even though

712
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Speaker 2: fields showed a lot of inconsistencies, there were some strides

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Speaker 2: moving forward. So if they do decide to trade the pick,

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Speaker 2: the Commanders obviously are going for a quarterback. I don't

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Speaker 2: think Sam Hall is their long term future. And the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: we know, are going to go for a quarterback. It

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Speaker 2: would seem imperative for you to have the right people

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Speaker 2: make that decision for you. Sure, So what's happening with

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Speaker 2: the Craft family in terms of again this idea of

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Speaker 2: it's easy to fire somebody, what's your idea to replacement? Well,

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Speaker 2: apparently they knew Mayo was the guy because it happened

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Speaker 2: the next day. What about this general manager? Do you

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Speaker 2: need a general manager? Here's what's interesting, especially.

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Speaker 1: When they're at a crossroads.

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Speaker 2: All right, tell you what on the other we got

726
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Speaker 2: an answer on the other side here breaking it down.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Steve Harvin and

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Speaker 2: Rich Armberger. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We

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Speaker 2: are live from the Tyraq dot Com studios. No game

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Speaker 2: right now. That Bill Steelers game was moved to tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: and it had to be. It is a complete white

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Speaker 2: out in Buffalo today. So we are hours away, less

733
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Speaker 2: than three hours away from kickoff of the Packers and

734
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, followed by the Rams and the Lions. We'll

735
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Speaker 2: get to those games shortly. We're talking about the happenings

736
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Speaker 2: in New England right now. If you're just tuning in

737
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Speaker 2: a couple of things. Obviously, Belichick fired, and he was fired,

738
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's call it for what it is. Parted ways,

739
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Speaker 2: he was fired and because he had time left on

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Speaker 2: his contract and he apparently wants to coach again under

741
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Speaker 2: the right circumstances.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Draw Mayo's taken over as the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the team, but no general manager, and the Patriots seem

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Speaker 2: to be indicating that we're okay without a general manager

746
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Speaker 2: even leaded up to what is the important draft coming up?

747
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Speaker 2: So the Bears are sitting there at number one, Commanders

748
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Speaker 2: at two, Patriots at three, and we just had the

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Speaker 2: story of Monts. He gave us breaking story. JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 2: is entering the NFL draft. Think about what we got

751
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Speaker 2: right now. You got Jayden Daniels yep, you got Michael

752
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Speaker 2: Pennix junior, you got Bo Nicks, you got JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: and then you got the two top guys, Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: and Drake may That's that's six cores right there.

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Speaker 1: Quality winning quarterbacks at the college level.

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Speaker 2: Now, everyone talks about the quarterbacks that flame out every year.

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Speaker 2: What they rarely talk about is the one quarterback sometimes,

758
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Speaker 2: if you're lucky, two quarterbacks that actually pan out.

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Speaker 1: And become franchise quarterbacks who become record setting like a CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud this year type quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Josh Allen was a high pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft. Some people questioned why based on his numbers

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Speaker 2: in college. Well turned out, Buffalo Phantom says a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it wasn't. Josh Allen's an interesting case because

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Speaker 1: it wasn't automatic like a CJ. Stroud. He wasn't great

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Speaker 1: his rookie year, and then his second year he improved.

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Speaker 1: His third year he had a breakout season. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: that happens. Sometimes it's a slow burn. Kobe Bryant look

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Speaker 1: at its first couple of years in the NBA, took

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Speaker 1: him a little time to get going and turned out

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Speaker 1: to be one of the top five players to ever

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Speaker 1: play the sport. It can happen to the greats. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady was draft in the sixth round. That's well documented. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you look at these quarterbacks and you try to

775
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Speaker 1: project forward, it's an impossible gamble. Nobody's particularly good at it.

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Speaker 1: Because if you look at the success rate of any

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Speaker 1: general manager on selecting quarterbacks, typically they're they're they're mainly failures.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, and let's let's leave Drake

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Speaker 2: Man Caleb Williams out of the mix for a second here,

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Speaker 2: because it seems like everyone says they are the top

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Speaker 2: two talents. And by the way, I've been hearing a

782
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Speaker 2: lot of people say Drake May's number one, that when

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Speaker 2: he gets to workouts, you're gonna like blow you, You'll

784
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Speaker 2: be blown away, even though he flew under the radar

785
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Speaker 2: this year at North Carolina. But I'm gonna ask you,

786
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Speaker 2: because we saw plenty of these guys. If you look

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Speaker 2: at Pennix, Nicks, Daniels McCarthy, of those four guys, anything

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Speaker 2: stand out amongst those four guys. Where I'm saying this,

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Speaker 2: if the Bears are number one, whether they take a

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Speaker 2: quarterback or now, let's say they make the pick available

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Speaker 2: and you're the Patriots, are you going to, hey, we'll

792
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Speaker 2: package a much of trade, you know, like Carolina did

793
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Speaker 2: a year ago to get Bryce Young Or do you

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Speaker 2: say if you have pages, No, we're good. We'll sit

795
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Speaker 2: at three. We got a lot of quarterbacks to choose from.

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Speaker 2: We'll just stay where we are.

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Speaker 1: I think you sit at three, or potentially, I mean potentially,

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Speaker 1: I think they need to take a quarterback or at three,

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Speaker 1: you could trade down a couple spots and you may

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Speaker 1: still have one of those great quarterbacks available for you,

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Speaker 1: because you gotta also look around you. Are the teams

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Speaker 1: selecting behind you really in need of a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Well, Arizona is another one. Arizona is a lot like

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Speaker 2: Chicago right now, right and they still have Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 2: I mean sticking with them. Yeah, so they're gonna stay

806
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Speaker 2: with Murray when they know the Chargers at number five

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Speaker 2: or said at quarterback the Giants.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Titans, you may be able to

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Speaker 1: trade down and still give yourself a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: It'll be very very interesting. What's next for Bill Belichick?

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Speaker 2: Is there a situation out there that fits a future

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 1: Will break it down.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, rolling along looking

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Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. Well, the original schedule

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Speaker 2: had us having a game right now between the Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Did not happen today because

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Speaker 2: of extreme weather conditions, and by the way, it definitely

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Speaker 2: played out that way. They're having a complete whiteout in

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Speaker 2: Buffalo today. They have moved that game to tomorrow. The

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Speaker 2: weather report for tomorrow in Buffalo is more snow in

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Speaker 2: the morning, but then light snow in the afternoon. It's

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Speaker 2: still gonna be cold, there's still gonna be snow flurries,

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Speaker 2: but it's a complete whiteout. You can't possibly have a

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Speaker 2: game today, So no game today. A little bit later on,

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Speaker 2: of course, we're gonna have the Packers on the road

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Speaker 2: against the Cowboys, Rams on the road again and the Lions.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to both of those games. In the meantime.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of NFL news that happened just

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a crazy.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four hours, right Like, in the space of twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours, you had, I mean, we had we knew

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Speaker 2: Ron Rivera was going to be let oh, that was

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Speaker 2: certainly no surprise.

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Speaker 1: Then it was saving Carol and Belichick all announced within

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Speaker 1: the samet twelve hours. Twelve hours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're talking about the two longest tenured

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Speaker 2: coaches in the NFL and the greatest college coach of

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Speaker 2: all time. I'm going to say that about Nick Saban.

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Speaker 2: There have been a lot of great college coaches. No

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Speaker 2: one matches the numbers of Nick Saban, but Belichick on

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Speaker 2: the NFL side was expected and it did happen, and

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Speaker 2: they wasted no time. Less than twenty four hours later,

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Speaker 2: Draw Mayo becomes the new coach of the New England Plaers.

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Speaker 1: A former teammate of mine, I played with girod for

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Speaker 1: three seasons. He was the Defensive Rookie of the Year

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Speaker 1: in eight, the Defensive Rookie of the year's first year.

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Speaker 1: I was drafted in two thousand and nine to the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: We played together from two thousand and nine through the

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven season. We went to the Super Bowl that year,

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Speaker 1: and he was I mean, and anybody who played with

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Speaker 1: him will tell you this, a brilliant, brilliant football player.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I posted this to Twitter recently at Ormberger,

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Speaker 1: I put out a video like because we used to

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Speaker 1: tease him. We used to call him Little Belichick because

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Speaker 1: he was so smart that it was almost when he

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Speaker 1: was answering questions, it was like talking to the head coach,

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Speaker 1: and like Bill trusted him. He became a lieutenant for

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Speaker 1: Bill immediately, like as a second year guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he burst onto the scene his rookie year over one

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Speaker 1: hundred solo tackles, like the whole thing. But then like

870
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: he became one of these guys where he knew that

871
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: he could download all this information into drod and he

872
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: could handle it and he could use it and it

873
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: was useful to him. A lot of people talk about

874
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: Luke Keikley and he is a tremendous football player where

875
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: he could diagnose the play before it even happens based

876
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: off of formation and personnel. And you know NFL films,

877
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: I said, I think they did a really good job

878
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: of like featuring and highlighting a lot of things that

879
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: he did over the course of his career. Drod Man

880
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: was the exact same type of player. You know.

881
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: During the Patriots run, I covered almost all of their

882
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, and I was one of those guys in

883
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: the media that would take advantage of sitting down with

884
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 2: the players at the tables, you know, those two days

885
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: where they're available. A lot of media people were just

886
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: lazy and would sit there on radio row waiting for

887
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: the usual suspects to show up. And I didn't do

888
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: that I wanted to talk to the players, and I

889
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: would love to talk to defensive players. One of the

890
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: players that was on the first Super Bowl run was

891
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Speaker 2: Ted Johnson. He was a linebacker, he had some San

892
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: Diego roads. Great guy, and we talked a lot about

893
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: Belichick and the way he would prepare week to week,

894
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: and he goes, understand this, if you're going to play

895
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: defense for Bill Belichick, you gotta be smart because what

896
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: your assignment changes every week.

897
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: It does.

898
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: Whatever we did one week, they're throwing it out out

899
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Speaker 2: the window and they're going to start all over again.

900
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: Your Gamelan defense every single game. Ted Johnson would tell

901
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: me and other Patriot defenders as well that I interviewed

902
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: over the years during that run, is that and and

903
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: then and and those that embraced it like a Rodney Harrison. Yep,

904
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: you know on Rodney, who I knew from his San

905
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: Diego days and then he goes to New England. He

906
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: was perfect because he was one of those guys that

907
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Speaker 2: welcome the challenge. Oh, Willie McGinnis, Willie mcginnon, Teddy Bruce Ki,

908
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: Richard Seymour, Richard Seymour, big time, Vince Wilfork. Yeah, you

909
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: know you had a lot of high law I mean

910
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: these were these were players. Any one of these guys

911
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: you would interview, the first thing that would you would

912
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: realize immediately is that they had a high football IQ,

913
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: like they're into this. And so the challenge each week was,

914
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: all right, this is what you did last week, forget that. Yep,

915
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Speaker 2: this is what you're gonna do this week.

916
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Speaker 1: And that game planning occurred offensively too. And what it

917
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: does is it's lows down in some ways your ability

918
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: to do everything perfectly, but it does advance you against

919
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: your opponents in not having tendencies in not being able

920
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: to look at the film and saying, well, because teams

921
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: did this to Team Why three weeks ago, and we're

922
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Speaker 1: a similar team to Team why, we're gonna see teams

923
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Speaker 1: do it to us. That's not how it works with

924
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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Just because the Patriots came up

925
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Speaker 1: with a game plan offensively against a four to three

926
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Speaker 1: scheme defense two weeks ago and they showed these plays,

927
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're gonna run a single one of those

928
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: plays when they face your four to three defense that

929
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Speaker 1: may be a little blitz heavy the week you play them,

930
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: because it's a game plan offense, it's a game plan defense.

931
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Speaker 1: And to Ted Johnson's point or any other defenders that

932
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Speaker 1: you covered during those Patriots Super Bowls when I was

933
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: there for three seasons, it was no different. You had

934
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: to flip you literally had to tear up everything you

935
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Speaker 1: did the week before and you had to flip the

936
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Speaker 1: page over and start from scratch each week. All right.

937
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: So that again for those that like to make it

938
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Speaker 2: simple and talk about with Brady without Brady with Belichick

939
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Speaker 2: really missed the point.

940
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick obviously.

941
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Speaker 2: Is a man that belongs on the Mount Rushmore of

942
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Speaker 2: NFL head coaches, whether you want to put Hallas up

943
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: there or Lombardi up there, or whoever you want to

944
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: put up for Shula, I mean, he belongs, and I

945
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: got to believe that he wants when you've gone this far,

946
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: he wants that all time wins record. He wants to

947
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: be the number one winning his coach in the history

948
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: of the NFL. One thing I've always appreciated about Belichick

949
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: is his love of the history of the game.

950
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Speaker 1: So I love this.

951
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: Oh, you know when they had the one hundredth anniversary

952
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: and he broke it down. He's watching video, you know,

953
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: Dick Night train Lane and breaking it all down. He

954
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: was looking at some of these guys, Don Hudson way

955
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: back in the day, and you could see there's a

956
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: general interest a general none of these guys and the

957
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: kind of impact they had on the history of the NFL.

958
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: All right, so this is what you have to offer

959
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: of your Belichick. Okay, I don't think he has to

960
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: introduce himself to anybody. But here's the other part of

961
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: it is, as we mentioned obviously, he was also the

962
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: general manager. Yes, and I think we're both in lockstep

963
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: on this, is that he's not going to accept a

964
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: job where he's a subordinate to a general manager. I mean,

965
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: he's used to having total control of personnel and the

966
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: entire football operation. Do you see any franchise out there,

967
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 2: and we talk about some of the vacancies. You've got

968
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: the situation in Atlanta, So these are the vacancies out there.

969
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: You've got Atlanta, You've got Carolina, you got Vegas, you

970
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: got the Chargers, you have Seattle, you have Tennessee, and

971
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: you have Washington. So seven teams looking for head coaches

972
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: right now. Could you see any of those franchises literally

973
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: handing Belichick total control of their franchise.

974
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Well, I don't see the Washington Commanders doing that, okay,

975
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: because as you know, they hired the assistant executive assistant

976
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: from the forty nine Ers, Adam Peters. Yes, so he's

977
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: going to be along with Bob Myers, the former Warriors

978
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: general manager, who I don't know if he's coming in

979
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: briefly to consult I think he was a consultant or yeah,

980
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: if he's going to be a part of the executive

981
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: team when it's all said and done. But I think

982
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: Josh Harris, the new owner of the Commanders, wanted some

983
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: people to bounce things off of and go figure a

984
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: Bay Area general manager, wanted him to go after a

985
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: Bay Area executives.

986
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 2: Well, as you I Mentionine, Adam Peters is now their

987
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: head of football operations, So Washington's out.

988
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: I just don't think that the Commanders are a fit

989
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't make that decision if you were targeting

990
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: Belichick Carolina. I feel like Bill Belichick unless he sold

991
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: on Bryce Young, like one hundred percent sol on Bryce Young,

992
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: that's going to be a no because Carolina's invested. Unless

993
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: they're going to move off of Bryce Young, and somehow

994
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: find a way to magically get themselves draft picks that

995
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: they traded away when they were going to get Bryce Young.

996
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: It's impossible. So Carolina is out. You look at some

997
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: of these other vacancies, like the Las Vegas Raiders, they'll

998
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: have a problem on their hands. Like Max Crosby, per sources,

999
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: may ask for a trade if Antonio Pierce isn't named

1000
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: their next head coach, So Max Crosby using that leverage.

1001
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: What happens if there's a free for all after Pierce

1002
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: gets moved on from What happens if other players do

1003
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: this too? I mean, does Bill want to walk into

1004
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: that hornous nest?

1005
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 2: By the way, as of today, the Raiders have had

1006
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: no interviews with any other coaching candidates. Yeah, they're interviewing

1007
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: for general managers right now, but the Raiders haven't had

1008
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: or even requested an interview for any other coach so far.

1009
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: Start looking around the league and I start feeling I

1010
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: start feeling like the team that is going to hire

1011
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: Belichick hasn't fired their head coach yet. I sort of

1012
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: feel like the team that is maybe most interested in

1013
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: hiring a Bill Belichick may still be in the postseason Okay,

1014
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: let's hold it right there all right.

1015
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: On the other side, we'll talk about some of these

1016
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: teams or many in the playoffs. We mentioned that the

1017
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: season ends and suddenly there's eight vacancies. One's been filled

1018
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: in New England, seventh vacancy still out there. Losing in

1019
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: the playoffs could be the death knell for more than

1020
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: one coach remaining. We'll break it down. This is Fox

1021
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone Radio, Steve Hartman and Rich Armberger. This

1022
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, and we are live

1023
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: from the tay iraq dot Com studios. So a few

1024
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: hours away from the kickoff of the Packers and the Cowboys,

1025
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: followed by the Rams on the road against the Lions.

1026
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: A couple of injuries seen, so we'll talk more about

1027
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: coming up here. In the meantime, we're trying to make

1028
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: some sense of what's going on around the NFL in

1029
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: terms of coaching hires. We mentioned that we had eight vacancies,

1030
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: one filled already with New England taking Drodmeyo to replace

1031
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, seven other vacancies and very real possibilities more

1032
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: to come. Let's talk about the Philadelphia Eagles, a year

1033
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: removed from making it to the Super Bowl and when

1034
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: they hired Nick Sirianni, some of you know from your

1035
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 2: Charger days, Yep, there were a lot of snickers because

1036
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: his opening press conference was one for the books.

1037
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: He just seemed unprepared for that moment and he seemed

1038
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: like when you listened to well listen watched it, it

1039
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 1: just seemed like he was really uncomfortable in that role

1040
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: or that in that press conference. And there's a lot

1041
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: of reasons for that. A lot of people get a

1042
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: little anxiety when they're speaking in front of crowds, but

1043
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily bode well when the whole job of

1044
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: being a head coach is speaking in front of crowds.

1045
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you know first impressions, you know what they say.

1046
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 2: And the first impression was not great for Nick Sirianni,

1047
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: but certainly in that changed a year ago when he

1048
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: led the Eagles to the Super Bowl in a shootout

1049
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: game that could have gone either way. One untimely fumble

1050
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 2: by Jalen Hurts and Bill was the difference in the game.

1051
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: And I said this after the press conference. I was like,

1052
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: he is going to have to be a heck of

1053
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: a coach to allow everybody to forget how much of

1054
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: a disaster that press conference was. And guess what he

1055
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: went and did. He went and he installed the culture.

1056
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: He found himself a quarterback who he trusted and developed.

1057
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: Jellen Hurts is a different quarterback today than he was

1058
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: when he was playing in college. And he's got Nick

1059
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: Sirianni to thank now. He also has some smart guys

1060
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: around him. Shane Steichen was the offensive coordinator last year.

1061
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: He did some amazing things in some brilliant work with

1062
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Sirianni and with Jellen Hurts, and he went on and

1063
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: moved on and became the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts.

1064
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: So a little bit of a brain drain there on offense. However,

1065
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: Jellen Hurts has developed underneath Nick Sirianni into a Pro

1066
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber player and you can't take that away from him.

1067
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: That is a really important part piece to this puzzle.

1068
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: Well, you have to go to the organization and Jeffrey Lourie,

1069
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: the owner, Andy Reid was let go, he was, yeah,

1070
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: And Doug Peterson was let go.

1071
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: Yes, he was. All of them took their Eagles to

1072
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl on the Peterson won one of them.

1073
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: So there is precedent here. Just because you've taken the Eagles.

1074
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: So the Super Bowl is no guarantee for long lasting employment.

1075
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Speaker 1: And this is what I was talking about when you

1076
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: asked me about landing spots for Bill Belichick, because if

1077
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Speaker 1: you start looking around and you start, well, let me,

1078
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Speaker 1: let's stop for a second before we get there, and

1079
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: you start talking about the the you know, the Carolina Panthers,

1080
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: and you start talking about the Tennessee Titans, or the

1081
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders, or the Los Angeles Chargers or even

1082
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks, like, there aren't a lot of great

1083
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: fits for a multitude of reasons with the teams who

1084
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: have availability.

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00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: Right now, look at the nightmare he's been facing the

1086
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: last couple of years post Tom Brady. As you know,

1087
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: he wants a quarterback. Jalen Hurts as a quarterback. By

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00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: the way, one thing to keep in mind with the

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00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: Eagles on the road tomorrow against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: Even this year, Jalen Hurts a six and two this

1091
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: year against teams that are in the playoffs. Yeah, so

1092
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: he has played his best games against the best teams.

1093
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: But this has been a weird year from the get go.

1094
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: With the Eagles, they got to ten and one and

1095
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: the whole time, we're what's sitting here on Sundays watching

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00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: the Eagles and we're like, what happened the team we

1097
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: saw that will look so dynamic last year, you know,

1098
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: blowing out the forty nine ers in the NFC Championship,

1099
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: going toe to toe with the Chiefs and the Super Bowl.

1100
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: Where is that team? And then the wheels fell off.

1101
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: They lose five of their last sixth schemes and they

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00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: fall into a wild card situation. Now, the good news

1103
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: is they go to Tampa Philadelphia with all the injuries

1104
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: and everything else, there's still a better team than Tampa.

1105
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: But if they do lose tomorrow to the Buccaneers, yep,

1106
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: do you believe Sirianni will be fired?

1107
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. The answer is possibly, if not likely,

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00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: that he'll be fired because of everything. It feels like

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00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: the beds being feathered. For us to believe that.

1110
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: Well, something has to be going on behind the scenes.

1111
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: You can't just look at the record and saying all right,

1112
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: you're in the super Bowl.

1113
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: Hear you miss the Super Bowl? Or there smoke, there's

1114
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: fire and we know that. So yeah, could he be fired? Yeah? Sure?

1115
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: Is he losing the locker room. Here's the problem with

1116
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: Philadelphia though. Yeah, so, Howie Roseman isn't going to seed

1117
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: control of personnel decisions, final say on personnel to Bill Belichick.

1118
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 2: Well, he's a potential Hall of Fame general Yeah. Yeah,

1119
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: oh general manager of the Eagle. Yeah yeah, yeah, you're

1120
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 2: talking about Roseman.

1121
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and so he's not seeding any control

1122
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick. Also, Bill Belichick may have more than

1123
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: one job vacancy available to him after the postseason. If

1124
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys don't win in their divisional round or

1125
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: excuse me, wildcard round of the postseason, if by some

1126
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: chance they don't advance, Mike McCarthy could be in danger

1127
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: of losing his job.

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00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: Now, we went down this road with one coach that

1129
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: was hired by Jerry Jones, and that was Bill Parcells

1130
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: or he went big time. Yeah, yeah, that did not

1131
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: work out great. Well, here's the thing I now, they

1132
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: didn't have a quarterback. That didn't help during that period.

1133
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Well, and Bill Parcells, in fairness, helped help Tony Romo

1134
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: get his feet weight at the NFL level. If you

1135
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: watch the film, Tony Romo sat on the bench for

1136
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: three years waiting patiently for his turn to become the

1137
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: start quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones hasn't forgotten that,

1138
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick fell off that Parcells treat. Now, is

1139
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: he any less prickly or difficult than Bill Parcells?

1140
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: No?

1141
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: In fact, maybe Belichick is even worse than Bill Parcells

1142
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: in terms of his relationship with the front office or

1143
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, the ownership. I don't know. I mean, I've

1144
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: never really had much privy to his conversations with Robert

1145
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: Kraft over my time playing in New England. But I

1146
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: mean that's a possibility. However, I think Jerry Jones can

1147
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: swallow a lot of pride and eat a lot of

1148
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: money to bring in a coach that he feels can

1149
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: turn his program around Dak Prescott with with Bill Belichick,

1150
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: that in my mind, that that works Like that works

1151
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: big time.

1152
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: Also, you have the Dan Quinn situation, Yes, sir, who

1153
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: has faithfully stayed with the Cowboys even though he's had

1154
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: some head coaching overtures out there.

1155
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: He's done a tremendous job with that Cowboys defense.

1156
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, dan Quinn is one of the best

1157
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: defensive minds in this league. And you bring in Belichick.

1158
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: It might be one of those situations where dan Quinn goes.

1159
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't want to go back to Seattle,

1160
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: and that feels like the best spot for me right now,

1161
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: But I don't want to go back. Maybe he sticks

1162
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: around Dallas for another season. I don't know.

1163
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: If you bring in a Belichick, there's no room for

1164
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: dan Quinn.

1165
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: But Belichick has made room for coordinators on his staff.

1166
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: He always has. Yeah, but I mean, who is the

1167
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: real coordinator?

1168
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: When Belichick is your head coach, He's going to have

1169
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: the final say on defense.

1170
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. I think that he would

1171
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: have to amend. But there's a lot of crossover and

1172
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: similarities between what Seattle did during the Legion of Boom

1173
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: days and some of their tendencies and some of the

1174
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: things that they did and some of the things that

1175
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: New England did. I think New England was way more

1176
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: as we were talking about earlier, a game plan offense

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: in Seattle had some more and frankly, Dallas now and

1178
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: the Falcons before that had some more tendencies than the

1179
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: New England defenses. But there is some carry over there

1180
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: and I could see maybe some sort of partnership occurring

1181
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. However, if Dan Quinn

1182
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: is ready to move on into his next head coaching

1183
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: role and Bill Belichick comes and or gets hired by

1184
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Dallas to become the next head coach of the Cowboys,

1185
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: if you look at the things that need to be

1186
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: in place for a coach to have success, an excellent quarterback,

1187
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: check playmakers around the offense, check an offensive line that

1188
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: probably needs a facelift, but overall pretty solid, good in

1189
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: the trenches upfront on the defense, talented players from stars

1190
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: on your defense. There's a lot to work with in Dallas.

1191
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but I'm just saying, like,

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01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill Belichick announces where he's going to.

1193
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't think there's announcement on Bill Belichick until the

1194
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: postseason's over, until the things shake out, because there may

1195
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: be more teams available before the n of before the

1196
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: end of this year's postseason.

1197
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's assume for a second, we'll break down

1198
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 2: the game a little bit later on Cowboys Packers again,

1199
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: Cowboys at home. They'll have a home game the following

1200
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: week as well. They're the two seed. You know, if

1201
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: this team, let's say, wins this week but loses next

1202
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: week at home, does Mike McCarthy have to get to

1203
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game to save his job again. It's

1204
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: because they're gonna be home. Think about where Jerry Jones

1205
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: is at in his life. Yes, you know what I'm saying.

1206
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: Like Jerry Jones, he's a clock is ticking. He's well,

1207
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: it's I don't I want to be kind here.

1208
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: Clock is ticking for all of us. It's it's ticking

1209
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: for all of us, loudly for others. Yes, So when

1210
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: you are in a position like think about Arthur Blank

1211
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: down there in Atlanta. He's probably extremely frustrated with whatever

1212
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: it's been two years with Arthur Smith. He moves on.

1213
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: There's a lot of owners who are getting up there

1214
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: in age Robert Craft. Robert Craft has the best coach

1215
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: who's ever coached in the NFL on his staff, and

1216
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: he just fired him. And the reason is because the

1217
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: last three seasons have been poor and and he's worried,

1218
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: Like in my lifetime, I want to see this program

1219
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: recover and become successful again. Is it going to be

1220
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick? Well, if it isn't, I better make

1221
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: that decision now, because again, that clock is ticking awfully

1222
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: loud for certain people out there. And Jerry Jones may

1223
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: be one of those guys who's saying, I'm aware of

1224
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: how much time I have left, or how much perceived

1225
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: time I have left, and I want to make sure

1226
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: that I make a change that I think could potentially

1227
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: lead us to the Promised Land. And is it gonna

1228
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: be with Mike McCarthy or if you have the choice

1229
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: between him and Bill Belichick, which one are you choosing?

1230
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: All right, I'm choosing Bill Belichick.

1231
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: All Right, we haven't even mentioned the biggest potential name

1232
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: in coaching available to the NFL this year. We'll get

1233
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: to that, but first let's find out what is trending.

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01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: So MANSI, Y, Yeah, we're bad mornings with six games,

1235
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: eight games, ten games?

1236
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1237
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: What are we doing that? Ten games? Y? I'm a

1238
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: real Yeah. A couple of weeks ago.

1239
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 6: And now here we are just waiting, just waiting patiently.

1240
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: I had one game, but I mean it's a complete

1241
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: white out in Buffalo.

1242
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 7: Yes.

1243
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 6: And the latest, according to Mike Garuffalo of the NFL Network,

1244
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 6: is that the Steelers are at the airport now. They

1245
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 6: are supposed to leave in about a half hour, okay,

1246
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 6: and head to Buffalo, So the airports.

1247
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: Are closed, they can't even get in.

1248
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, they're going to be getting assistance from the

1249
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 6: city to make sure that.

1250
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: Well it's not that far of a flight from Pittsburgh, right, Well, no, like.

1251
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 6: I think, once they get there, they're going to be

1252
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 6: getting assistance from New York, so make sure everybody gets

1253
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 6: there safely.

1254
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 7: But yes, only two games today, fellas.

1255
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 6: We're still waiting patiently, Dallas and the Packers. That all

1256
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 6: starts at four thirty pm Eastern Time, then the later

1257
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 6: game at eight pm. That's going to be the Lines

1258
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 6: hosting the Rams, and good news for Lines fans. According

1259
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 6: to the NFL Network, star rookie tight end Sam Laporta

1260
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 6: trending in the right direction after dealing with a bone

1261
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 6: bruise and hyper extended knee.

1262
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 7: In college football, the deadline is Monday for the NFL

1263
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 7: Draft to declare. Is it at nineteenth?

1264
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: Is it that quick? I think things that sounds like yeah?

1265
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 7: Okay.

1266
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: Well.

1267
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy, quarterback for Michigan, and running back Blake Corum

1268
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 6: have both officially declared for the draft with social media

1269
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 6: announcements as they do it now.

1270
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 7: And speaking, you guys are talking about all these coaches

1271
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 7: that have retired.

1272
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 6: Alabama transfer wide receiver Isaiah Bond has committed to Texas

1273
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 6: and he told ESPN it's a business decision in the

1274
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 6: wake of Nick Saban's retirement. So he said, it's one

1275
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 6: hundred percent the reason for his transfer because Nick Saban

1276
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 6: has retired.

1277
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: That makes sense.

1278
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the effect, right.

1279
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, Nick Saban said, you know after

1280
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: he made this decision that each year that he was

1281
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: getting older, it's thing about ages. It has a big

1282
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: effect on recruiting because you're recruiting somebody. You have a

1283
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: seventy year old coach. Are you still going to be

1284
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: hearing three years? And he says it was not easy

1285
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: for me to suddenly work on a year by year basis.

1286
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, from a recruiting state, right, right, So that January

1287
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: fifteenth is the so tomorrow tomorrow, tomorrow dating which college

1288
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: football players have to declare themselves eligible for the draft.

1289
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 7: I said Monday, and I didn't realize today Sunday.

1290
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 6: I know I'm here with you every Sunday, but like legit,

1291
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 6: when he said Monday.

1292
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like a Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Right, yeah, it does not feel like a Sunday. That

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01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 7: was just a nice realization there, Fellas.

1295
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 6: The Australian Open has also also officially started so early

1296
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 6: in the morning. Novak Djokovic won his first round match

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Speaker 6: in four sets, a match that lasted three hours and

1298
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 6: fifty seven minutes out and American Frances Francis Tioffo, he

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 6: also won his first round match in four sets.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, MONSI thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. All right,

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: let's talk about Jim Harbaugh. So, Jim Harbaugh and the

1303
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: University of Michigan think about this. How what a landmark

1304
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: win this was for Michigan in there and I didn't

1305
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: see it coming. Total domination of Washington in that national

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01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: championship game. So Michigan has won more games than any

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 2: other program in the history of college football, more than

1308
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 2: Notre Day, more than any other and yet the AP poll,

1309
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: which started in nineteen thirty six, this is only the third.

1310
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: Time they've won the national championship. It's so amazing that

1311
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: you just have these numbers off the top of.

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01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: Her nineteen forty eight, nineteen ninety seven and twenty twenty

1313
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: three are the only years that Michigan ended up as

1314
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: the AP national champions.

1315
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: Who won the national title in nineteen seventy eight.

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: Tho oh, come on, that was Alabama first to back

1317
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: to back and should have been usc by the way anyway,

1318
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: So you know, and he's doing all the right things.

1319
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: You know, he's deflecting a lot of talk about the

1320
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: next move, and rightfully, so let's enjoy what we just accomplished.

1321
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: Fifteen and zero. They were the dominant team in college

1322
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: football this year. You know, we've been making a play

1323
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: about Georgia. I don't know if Georgia could have beaten

1324
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: that Michigan team that I saw wipe the floor with

1325
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: Washington the other day.

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01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: This was a great Michigan team.

1327
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: And he is doing all the right things to celebrate

1328
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: this before he starts getting into what's my next move.

1329
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: So it is obvious, having been at that NFL level,

1330
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: when you have done what you were asked to do

1331
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: At Michigan, maybe it took a little longer than people

1332
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: had wanted, but you got the job done. You won

1333
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: a national championship. The first time they won a national

1334
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 2: championship in twenty six years. He delivered what was promised,

1335
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: what was hoped for when he returned to the University

1336
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 2: of Michigan. Yep, what's the next step for him? Well,

1337
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: I know he'd like to get another shot at his

1338
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: brother in a super Bowl at some point, but it's

1339
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: got to be the right play. And to me, there

1340
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: are two teams that stand out, the Raiders and the Chargers.

1341
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: Let's start with the Chargers. They have the better quarterback obviously.

1342
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: In fact, the Charger Raiders.

1343
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: Right now, you are going to buy into Aidan O'Connell.

1344
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 2: The Chargers have the quarterback. The problem is the Chargers

1345
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: have the Spanos family. There is a reason why certain

1346
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: organizations name the sport struggle to ever make any movement

1347
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: into becoming what every organization hopes for, every fan base

1348
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: hopes for, is that you're a perennial contender. You know,

1349
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: you can always have a moment like you have one

1350
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: one season where you make the playoffs or something like that,

1351
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 2: and then you go back into obscurity. We see it

1352
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 2: all the time, Carolina, Atlanta. We've seen this over and

1353
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 2: over again. Chargers are the same way. So if you're

1354
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh and you're sitting down with Dean and John Spanos,

1355
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: what would you ask of them? If you're Jim Harbaugh

1356
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 2: and everywhere you've been eventually you win. Do you trust

1357
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: the Spanos family is going to deliver anything they may

1358
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: promise in a conversation with Jim Harbaugh's.

1359
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I don't see this Spanos family. And

1360
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I don't see the Spanos

1361
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: family being able to afford one of these big name,

1362
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: high paid former head coach, whether it be at the

1363
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: collegiate level or the NFL level type coaches. What have

1364
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: they done historically? Right? Because history will tell you the story.

1365
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: You know, there are certain franchises that will go out

1366
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: and spend money. The Raiders are one of them. That's

1367
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: the reason why the Raiders are connected to Jim Harbaugh

1368
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: because it makes sense because Mark Davis al Davis over

1369
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 1: the years that organization has not been worried about spending

1370
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: money on a coach, even sometimes throwing good money after

1371
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: bad on a coach. The Spanos family, it's always coordinators.

1372
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: It's always the first or second tier coordinators who are

1373
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: available on the free agent head coaching market that they

1374
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: end up hiring. Just look at the last four North

1375
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: Turner was a coordinator. You look at Mike McCoy, he

1376
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: was a coordinator. You look at l was like an

1377
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: interim coordinator. He was an interim coordinator and then an

1378
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: interim head coach who then, you know, with the Buffalo

1379
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: Bills after they fired Rex Ryan, whose name got hot

1380
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: at the end of that season as a potential head

1381
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: coaching candidate, he gets hired by the Chargers. You know,

1382
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 1: you look at this most recent one with Brandon Staley

1383
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: off the Sean McVay staff. All of them, all of

1384
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: them coordinators and by the way, not the highest touted

1385
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: coordinators available as head coach potential head coach hires in

1386
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: their respective off seasons that they were available. So what

1387
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: would what would make anybody believe that Dean Spanos, in

1388
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: the Spanos family who owned the Chargers, they are going

1389
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: to be interested in spending that kind of money on

1390
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: a head coach. I just don't see it happening. It's

1391
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: not going to be Bill Belichick. It is not going

1392
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: to be Jim Harbaugh. It's just not. It's more likely

1393
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 1: to be one of these coordinators, like a Ben Johnson

1394
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: potentially potentially, well, they've interviewed a lot of people.

1395
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: In fact, if you look at it, of all the

1396
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 2: teams that have a vague and see, no team has

1397
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: been more active in interviewing candidates than the Chargers.

1398
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. They interviewed Rahe Morris.

1399
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: Yep, they I mean, and not only that, they've also

1400
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: they've already requested an interview with Dan Quinn once their

1401
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: season is over. They scheduled an interview with Bengals offensive

1402
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: coordinator Brian Callahan.

1403
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: Oh, with Tom Munkin from the Ravens that I believe

1404
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 1: they have an upcoming or a scheduled interview with Monkin.

1405
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So, I mean they they've been very active

1406
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: in terms of that was two days ago, so they waited.

1407
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: In interviews and interviewing plays everyone.

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01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 2: All right, So if not the Chargers, And by the way,

1409
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: they have Vegas odds on this, and the Chargers are

1410
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: the overwhelming favorites to get Jim Harbaugh. And like you say,

1411
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: if they were to do that, it would be completely

1412
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: opposite of everything they've done as an organization. Now, you

1413
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: and I were privy to an organization that flipped the switch,

1414
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: and that was the pop reorganization. Oh yeah, they had

1415
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: history of doing anything, and all of a sudden they

1416
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 2: go on a spending frenzy and we're like, what is

1417
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: happening here? We've never seen this before.

1418
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: But it took a shift in the ownership. Great, thank

1419
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: you very much. No, it took it took one of

1420
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: the partnering controlling owners to buy out basically the other

1421
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: one and keep him on staff.

1422
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: Peter Seiler sees control. He said he would. He talked

1423
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: the talk, and he walked the walk. Yeah, then he

1424
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: backed it up with huge dollar amounts. Look, here's the thing.

1425
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: But make make no mistakes about it. When it comes

1426
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: to especially coaching decisions in the NFL, it comes down

1427
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: to money. There's there's no doubt about it. And and opportunity.

1428
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: There are times where coaches link up with an organization

1429
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: and begin to have a lot of success. And whether

1430
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: that organization has money or not, they may have lucked

1431
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: into a couple of good decisions in a row, and

1432
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: now that coach is stuck with that organization. See Zach

1433
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: Taylor and Joe Burrow. Like Zach Taylor, I'm sure if

1434
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: he had his pick of what organization he would want

1435
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: to be the head coach for, it wouldn't be with

1436
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: an ownership group who refuses to spend money. It would

1437
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: be with a Jerry Jones, or it would be with

1438
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: a robber Craft. But those jobs weren't available then, and

1439
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor wanted to be a head coach in this

1440
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 1: league and then made with his organization a smart decision

1441
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: to draft Joe Burrow. So they're off to the races together.

1442
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: There's no going back. But if you're Jim Harbaugh and

1443
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: you literally have the pick of the litter, you could

1444
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 1: stay at Michigan and make one hundred million dollars plus

1445
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: or take a job anywhere in the NFL. Virtually, are

1446
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: you really going to the Chargers?

1447
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 2: Look, the Spanos family, under the leadership of Dean Spanos,

1448
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: has gotten away with literally not spending a dime. They

1449
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: made a stadium deal in San Diego where they had

1450
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: the city guarantee to buy unused tickets to for sell us.

1451
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,919
Speaker 1: The city buy up the tickets.

1452
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 2: The city built them a facility in San Diego that

1453
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: the Chargers invested zero dollars in. They invested zero dollars

1454
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: in Sofi Stadium. They didn't sell any PSLs, They don't

1455
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: pay any rent. Now they haven't paid a penny back

1456
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: to the league in their relocation.

1457
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: Well, well, well they're paying a dollar a year in

1458
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: rent Okay a dollar.

1459
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: And now they have a new facility going up in

1460
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 2: El Segundo, and my guess is they didn't pay a

1461
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: dime for that either. So this is an organization that

1462
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: if you just follow the track record, because paying a

1463
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: coach is going to cost you out of pocket that's

1464
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: not going to be covered by the salary cap. Remember

1465
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: how the salary cap works. The amount of money that

1466
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: is shared in television revenue matches the cape. So technically

1467
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: every penny of the cap is covered by the equally

1468
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 2: shared television revenue. The difference is signing bonuses. That's that

1469
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: comes out of pocket.

1470
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: Getting back to the point about Jim Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh

1471
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: makes sense in Seattle to me, where they took a

1472
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: chance on a former collegiate head coach with a tremendous

1473
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: amount of success. Well right there, Rich on the other side,

1474
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 1: it makes sense there to be there's a couple other spots.

1475
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: Okay, So what does make sense if Jim Harbaugh is

1476
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: going to return to the NFL And that's no guarantee

1477
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: because Michigan is offering him a boatload. But if he

1478
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 2: does return to the NFL, which team makes sense?

1479
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: We'll tell you.

1480
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:43,480
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Steve Harvin, Rich Ornberger,

1481
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, waiting on some football today.

1482
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna get there eventually.

1483
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: Plenty to say about the games coming up today between

1484
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 2: the Packers and the Cowboys, Lions and the Rams. Chris

1485
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 2: is just sitting there anxious right now. The Lions get

1486
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: just their second playoff win in my lifetime. Yeah, in

1487
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: my lifetime. Well year were you born nineteen fifty eight

1488
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 2: in my lifetime?

1489
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: Wow?

1490
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: So that's that's a lot. So we'll get to that

1491
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: in a moment here. But we're talking about the Jim

1492
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: Harbaugh situation. Who is interviewed with nobody. The Chargers are

1493
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: the only team that have made it public. They like

1494
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 2: to request an interview with Jim Harbaugh.

1495
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: That's it.

1496
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: You have seven current coaching vacancies. We talked about the

1497
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: possibility of the Eagles job opening up, maybe even the

1498
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 2: Cowboys job opening up. Let's talk about the Raiders for

1499
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: a moment here. Yeah, there is a dynamic to Vegas.

1500
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: There is a dynamic to the Raiders organization. I was

1501
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: reminded that when I went to Allegiant Stadium, you know,

1502
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 2: last month, and took my boys there and we hung

1503
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: out and really walked around the stadium. That just reeks

1504
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: of the history of the Raiders. And there's obviously a

1505
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 2: lot of history there, mostly obvious under the tutelage of

1506
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: Al Davis back in his heyday. But the one thing

1507
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: about Mark Davis is he's very aware of that, and

1508
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: he has spent money, He's taken chances, and I got

1509
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: to believe that if Jim Harbaugh has any interest, any

1510
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: interest in coming to the Raider organization, that Mark Davis,

1511
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: despite his limited means, will find any way to get him.

1512
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1513
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: So if you're Jim Harbaugh knowing that you have all

1514
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: kinds of uncertainties in terms of the Raider organization, but

1515
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 2: it is in Vegas sort of a fun time out there,

1516
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: can I mean, he's been a winner everywhere San Diego,

1517
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: University of San Diego, Stanford, the forty nine Ers, Michigan.

1518
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: Every single stop he eventually wins. Could he do the

1519
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: same thing with the Raiders or are there too many

1520
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: obstacles to overcome?

1521
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 3: No?

1522
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 1: I think I think it could work. Here's the problem

1523
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: with Jim Harbaugh's success in those places, and I'm gonna

1524
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna discount USD because you could argue that was

1525
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: absolutely a stepping stone and potentially Stanford as well. Stanford

1526
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: was a mess when he took over, but when he

1527
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: got there, he definitely completely renovated the way everything was done,

1528
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: from the way they recruited players to the way they

1529
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: ran their offense. In their defense, he helped to really

1530
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: establish some things now that are kind of norms in

1531
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: college football at both the offensive and defensive side of

1532
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: the ball that weren't prior to that. He brought some

1533
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: coverages and some defensive schemes to college football that were,

1534
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: I guess prior to him going to Stanford really deemed

1535
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: as too advanced, and there were a lot of There

1536
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: was a lot of positive that happened in San Francisco too.

1537
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: He took over for Singletary as that program was screeching

1538
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: to a halt in you know, while he was at

1539
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: the Helm, and he took them to double digit win seasons.

1540
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: I believe it was three in a row before he

1541
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: burnt out that entire locker room. He got to a

1542
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but he lost to the Ravens and it

1543
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: started to unravel for him. And what I mean by

1544
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: that is there are certain coaches who just fit better

1545
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: at the college level, and Jim Harbam may be one

1546
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 1: of those coaches because even though he burned really bright,

1547
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: it was for a three year stint, and then guys

1548
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: were staging almost a mutiny on him, like Chip Kelly

1549
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: when he went to the Philadelphia Eagles. It went really

1550
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: well for about a year and a half, but then

1551
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: guys were like, we don't want to do it the

1552
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: college football way. There are guys in that locker room

1553
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: who have made tens of millions of dollars, who have

1554
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: been in the league for ten years, sometimes ten plus years,

1555
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: who all of a sudden you're in control of and

1556
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: you're treating them like a college football player. They're going

1557
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: to say, hey, screw you, buddy, go back to where

1558
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: you came from. Go be a duck somewhere else, because

1559
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: it's not how we do it here in Philadelphia. And

1560
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: there's some big attitudes and there's a lot of money

1561
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: behind those big attitudes. I think Jim Harbaugh started bumping

1562
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: heads with some of those big money players in San Francisco,

1563
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: and I heard it firsthand. So I don't know if

1564
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: it's going to work for a long time, but it

1565
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: could be really good for a short time.

1566
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,959
Speaker 2: The difference now, though, is the changing landscape of college football.

1567
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 2: I mean, where it is that you know, these coaches

1568
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: had total control.

1569
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 1: They don't have that anymore.

1570
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: You develop star players and all of a sudden they're

1571
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal and then you go out on

1572
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: the recruiting trail and everyone wants to know about their

1573
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: nil deals. So we used to say, well, it's much

1574
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: you have more control at the college level than you

1575
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: have of the pro level. It's not that way anymore.

1576
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up on the other side, we got

1577
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 2: games they're going to be played today. We're going to

1578
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 2: start breaking them down. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio,

1579
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: waiting on a game or two, and they're coming here

1580
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: on a big NFL playoffs Sunday.

1581
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,479
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Speaker 2: hour and a half away from kickoff of the first

1589
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: of two games today, the Green Bay Packers on the

1590
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: road against the Dallas Cowboys, followed by the Rams on

1591
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: the road against the Detroit Lions. So we've been talking

1592
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: a lot about some of the coaching changes, parenting. You

1593
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: know what, is Belichick gonna end up with another team

1594
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: in the NFL, as Jim Hargup Harbaugh gonna leave Michigan

1595
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: to come to the NFL. Let's get to the teams

1596
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 2: that are still playing, and let's start with this Packers

1597
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys matchup. All right, We'll get to Dallas in a

1598
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: moment here. But this has been an interesting year for

1599
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers because they finally decided, all right,

1600
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 2: we drafted Jordan Love. We actually moved up in the

1601
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: first round to get Jordan Love. Similar to situation too

1602
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 2: when the Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers in the first round

1603
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: when you already had Brett Faarr. It was an uncomfortable situation,

1604
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: but they made the handoff. This game between the Packers

1605
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys features the quarterbacks that were one to

1606
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 2: two in the NFL in touchdown passes this year. Dak

1607
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 2: Prescott was number one, and yes, Jordan Love was number

1608
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 2: two in the league in touchdown passes. The Packers have

1609
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 2: found themselves a franchise quarterback again, and that really is

1610
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: an amazing accomplishment for any franchise.

1611
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: Remember this.

1612
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: When Ron Wolf took over as a GM of the Packers,

1613
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: they needed a quarterback and they traded a first round

1614
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 2: pick for a guy who had been drafted in the

1615
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 2: second round the year before by the Atlanta Falcons. And

1616
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 2: if you look it up there it is is one

1617
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: year in Atlanta, Brett Fav's zero for five passing, and

1618
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 2: you trade a first round pick for a guy who

1619
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 2: was a second round pick the year before by Atlanta.

1620
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: How did that work out?

1621
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: And then with Aarons, a guy who fell down the

1622
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 2: board yep, on a day when he thought he was

1623
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: going to be the number one overall pick by the

1624
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, that go with Alex Smith and.

1625
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 1: Said, past past, past, past pass you pick him up.

1626
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: Even though you got Brett farre you don't need a quarterback,

1627
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: but you're looking at your board and you know, like,

1628
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 2: he's the best guy on the board, We're going to

1629
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 2: take him. How did that work out? So Jordan Love

1630
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: was a bizarre pick. You covered Jordan Love's college career.

1631
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, were you looking at this guy?

1632
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: Is all right?

1633
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 2: This guy has a chance not to play in the NFL,

1634
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 2: but to be the caliber quarterback that we have seen

1635
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: this year in leading the Packers into the postseason.

1636
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 1: Well, what's also strange about that is it's not like

1637
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: he fell to them. They traded up to get him. Yes,

1638
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: so the Packers very much so sent the message to

1639
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that we're moving on from you. It doesn't

1640
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: mean that it's happening this year, Aaron, but we're we're

1641
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: we're moving on from you. That's what happened. I mean,

1642
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: there's no other explanation for trading up to take quarterback

1643
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: in the first round. That's what the Kansas City Chiefs

1644
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: did to Alex Smith. You just mentioned his name, odd

1645
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 1: that similar situation occurred with him in Kansas City, But

1646
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. And then they traded him to

1647
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders when Patrick Mahomes took over. And here

1648
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: we are now. Aaron Rodgers is a New York Jet

1649
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: very similar to his predecessor, Brett Favre, who became a

1650
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 1: Jet player as well, and Jordan Love in these past

1651
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: eight games that he's played to finish out the season

1652
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: has been sensational. Eighteen touchdown passes to just one pick.

1653
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:35,480
Speaker 1: He's throwing to these first and second year pass catchers

1654
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: on the outside who seemed to becoming more and more

1655
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: comfortable playing at the NFL level, and there's more and

1656
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: more of a trust between Love and those guys. Thirty

1657
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: two touchdown passes this season. Thirty two, Yeah, in his

1658
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 1: first season as a full time starter, second in the league.

1659
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: It's insane, It's sensational. It's so rare to have a

1660
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: situation where you go from an Aaron Rodgers, excuse me,

1661
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: a Brett fav who's a Hall of Famer, to an

1662
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers who's a waiting Hall of Famer, to a

1663
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: player who looks as competent as Jordan Love. But the Packers,

1664
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: to their credit, and these have been different makeups of

1665
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: front offices over these years, to their credit, they've gotten

1666
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: this really, really right at the most important position, Jordan Love.

1667
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to hammer out a long term extension

1668
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: this offseason with them.

1669
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: So how does this play out for Green Bay today?

1670
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: Here's a number that does not bode well for the

1671
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 2: Packers in this game. First of all, you have a

1672
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: Cowboys team six of their eight wins at home this year,

1673
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:40,879
Speaker 2: but by at least twenty points, not ten points, twenty points.

1674
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: You have a Packer team that gave up thirty to Carolina.

1675
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, which seems which seems impossible watching the Panthers

1676
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: get it shut out in their last two games of

1677
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: the year, that Carolina could put.

1678
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: Up thirty on anybody. Yeah, But they put up thirty

1679
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: on the Green Bay Packer. Yeah.

1680
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: So you have the combination of the Cowboys jackal and

1681
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 2: Hyde season where they are mediocre to terrible on the

1682
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 2: road and Juggernauts at home going against a Packer defense

1683
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 2: that is not good by any stretch of imagination. The

1684
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: Packer defense is similar to where Detroit was last year

1685
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 2: with their defense, yeah, where it doesn't matter how many

1686
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 2: points you score, it's hard to overcome. This is a

1687
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 2: nine and eight Green Bay team, despite the fact that

1688
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 2: they had one of the best quarterbacks in the league

1689
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: this year, they barely made it.

1690
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: You're dead to the postseason. He's gonna need a lot

1691
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: of help, which means two things you could do. Two

1692
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: things You could either try to score in bunches right,

1693
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: get down the field and punch it into the end

1694
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: zone consistently. And if you think that you have a

1695
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: chance to do that against Dallas, hey, listen, that's great.

1696
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: Or you can completely change yourself philosophically and really try

1697
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: to slow down the game to help aid your defense.

1698
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: Where you make it where you make it a game

1699
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: about shortening the game, about focusing on the run game,

1700
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: the short passing game, feast on the underneath routes. You know,

1701
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: don't try to make this a big, long, vertical game

1702
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: because if you do, you potentially jeopardize you know, an

1703
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: offensive possession with a turnover. Even though Jordan Love has

1704
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: been really careful with the football, those things can get

1705
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: you in trouble. You give Dallas an extra possession, especially

1706
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: if their offense is humming the way Ceedee Lamb has

1707
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: been playing recently. How do you stop that guy? The

1708
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: answer is the Green Bay Packers defense cannot. Yeah, you

1709
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: really either have to go one of two routes. It's

1710
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: pull out all the stops and you know, go for

1711
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: it on fourth down conversions that maybe you should in

1712
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: and go for two after touchdowns and just try to

1713
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: make it a score fest that you are having Dallas

1714
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: chase after you the entire game, or you shorten the

1715
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: game with the run. And so that's what it boils

1716
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: down to. Football gets really simple when you start thinking

1717
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: about your options and if you have a weak defense

1718
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: and you're going against a juggernaut offense, either you want

1719
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: to play keep away where you keep them on the

1720
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 1: sideline for a long time, or you pull out all

1721
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: the stops and you try to score and just stay

1722
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: one score ahead.

1723
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: Now, the Cowboys have a sixteen game home winning street

1724
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 2: going into this game. The one game though, was that

1725
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: Seattle game. I mean that was up for grabs yep,

1726
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 2: and Gino Smith tore that Dallas defense to pieces. You know,

1727
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 2: I know Michael Parsons is near and dear to you

1728
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: with his Penn State roots and everything else. But here's

1729
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: the thing I hear about Micah Parsons, Like his high

1730
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: level game is on par with the all time brats,

1731
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 2: not just the current ultimate. Yeah, but there are times

1732
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: when his game is subpar. See if I'm the Green

1733
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Bay Packers, the only chance you've got in this game

1734
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: is to outscore them. You got to win a thirty

1735
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: eight to thirty five games something along those lines. And

1736
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm watching Micah Parsons because he's the most dynamic defensive

1737
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 2: player the Cowboys have. So how do we play to

1738
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: our strength against his weakness? And I think that's what

1739
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: the Packers are going to do. Look, I would not

1740
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: pick the Packers in this game under any stretch of

1741
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: the imagination, because the Cowboys record at home is what

1742
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: it is. But I look back to that Seattle game

1743
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 2: and they almost pulled it off. They almost outscored them

1744
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,520
Speaker 2: in a game. And I'm going after your best player defensively,

1745
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 2: and I'm going to find a way to exploit what

1746
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 2: he does worst and just hope for the best that somehow,

1747
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: maybe Dallas turns the ball over, maybe Dak reverts, or

1748
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 2: we're still talking about Dak Prescott. His postseason record is

1749
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 2: two and four. That's his postseason record, yep, two and

1750
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 2: four with zero trips of the conference championship game. So

1751
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 2: he makes a couple of mistakes and we're full futtle offensively,

1752
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 2: we got a fighting chance.

1753
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: Don't look at Dak's record in the postseason and just

1754
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: assume that you know everything, though, because for whatever reason,

1755
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: we've gotten into this habit since the dawn of time

1756
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: that quarterbacks are ultimately responsible for wins and losses, and

1757
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not. Sometimes they are because it's such

1758
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: a consequential position. If a quarterback plays an awful game,

1759
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: especially in a quarterback reliant offense, then yeah, you can

1760
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: make that argument. But if you look at Dat's Dax

1761
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: stats in his season appearances, it's not as bad as

1762
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: people make it out to seem. He is a you know,

1763
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: he has lost more games than he's won in the postseason,

1764
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: but think back on some of Dallas's heartbreaking losses. You know,

1765
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy mismanaging the clock, Aaron Rodgers pulling the rabbit

1766
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: out of his hat, finding who was it his tight

1767
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: end on the tight roping on the sideline to have

1768
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: that miraculous drive to beat the Dallas Cowboys at home.

1769
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Like there have been some moments where the Dallas Cowboys

1770
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: have gotten horribly unlucky or their head coach baffling decision

1771
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,759
Speaker 1: making has resulted in losses. It hasn't always been Dak's fault.

1772
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: So I'm always careful when I go after a quarterback

1773
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: because of his playoff record. However, you know, there are

1774
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: certain quarterbacks who it feels like are getting a pass

1775
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 1: from people in the postseason who don't have good games

1776
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: under their belt, like a Lamar Jackson, for example, one

1777
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: and three. He's one in three, but if you look

1778
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: at his games, the one win, it was a fantastic game.

1779
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: He took over that game, but the other three games

1780
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: have been they were awful. Yeah, you know, so like

1781
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: there are certain quarterbacks who have really been the consequence,

1782
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 1: have really been the reason for their playoff losses. I

1783
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: don't think that. I wouldn't characterize dak as that. The

1784
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys overall in his tenure, though, have had some bad

1785
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: luck and bad decisions made in playoff games. And to

1786
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: your point about this Green Bay team, if they want

1787
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: to have success, they want to have any sort of

1788
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: run game, you got to run away from Michael Parsons.

1789
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: They're going to do that. If you want any success

1790
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: throwing the football, you're gonna have to. Nowhere, Number eleven

1791
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: is on the field at all times, and they move

1792
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: them around a bunch. You got to get two bodies

1793
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: on him as a pass rusher. So trust me, and

1794
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: I tell you Matt Lafleur knows that. And they're going

1795
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 1: to be dialing up those protections to protect their greatest asset,

1796
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: which has become Jordan Love.

1797
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 2: I know the number has been hovering seven or eight

1798
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 2: points the entire time Dallas favored.

1799
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:33,799
Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. I wouldn't bet.

1800
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 2: Against Dallas today. They just wouldn't make any sense. By

1801
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 2: the way, quick update, the Los Angeles Chargers have already

1802
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 2: done six interviews.

1803
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1804
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 2: They interviewed interim coach Giftsmith. They interviewed offensive coordinator Kellen Moore.

1805
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:56,879
Speaker 2: They interviewed Raiders defensive coordinator Patrick Graham. They interviewed Raven's

1806
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator Todd Monkin. They have also interviewed San Francisco

1807
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes and Baltimore defensive quarter Mike McDonald.

1808
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 2: They can do that now because even if you're still

1809
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and now the reports are out that

1810
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 2: they will be the first team to interview a guy who,

1811
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 2: by the way, once wore a charge of uniform briefly,

1812
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. Yep, it is now reported by several sources

1813
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 2: that Jim Harbaugh's first interview for an NFL job will

1814
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: be with a charge organization. Knowing Dean and John Spano says,

1815
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 2: we do sitting there with Jim Harbough, Yeah, I would

1816
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 2: love to be in that room.

1817
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious what they say when it comes to money.

1818
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: I'm curious what they say when or if Jim Harbaugh

1819
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: is so bold to see to say something like, you know,

1820
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know here is maybe slide

1821
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: the paper across the table. What Michigan is willing to

1822
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: pay me over the next ten years annually and overall?

1823
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: Can you make me a richer man than than that?

1824
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 1: That number says that Michigan can make me. And they're

1825
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: gonna look at that piece of paper and they're gonna

1826
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: slide it right back across the table, and they're gonna say,

1827
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 1: happy trails, Jim. How about this? It goes like this.

1828
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 2: I remember Don Yee is representing him, who also represented

1829
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 2: Sean Payton, who got basically the deal of a lifetime

1830
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 2: with the Denver Broncos.

1831
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: So the rumors on that deal. If Dean is sitting there,

1832
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton owns Walmart.

1833
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Now, so imagine Dean and John Spanos, his son is

1834
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,879
Speaker 2: the president of football Operations. So Dean's like, so, Jim,

1835
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 2: give us some of the things that we need to

1836
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 2: do to get you into the Charges organization. And Jim

1837
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 2: looks at John Spanos as well. First of all, he

1838
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: needs to go. Sean Payton, Okay, this is the right

1839
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 2: the way. His contract is worth a reported eighteen million

1840
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 2: per season over the next five years, and he and

1841
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 2: and it's ironclad. Yeah, like they can't touch him. So

1842
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 2: so okay, so Gruden, so he Tim Harbor says, okay, yeah,

1843
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 2: with all due respect, he can't be the.

1844
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 1: President of football operations. You think Dean would say, all right, John,

1845
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: you're out of here. Yeah, listen, this is not happening.

1846
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: Anybody who thinks that Jim Harborough is going to be

1847
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: hired by the Chargers is living in fantasy.

1848
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 6: All right.

1849
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: Leave it at that, all right.

1850
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, what's at stake for

1851
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys in this game coming up against the Packers?

1852
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: Is this the year that finally Dallas gets back to

1853
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 2: the promised Land. We'll break it down. This is Fox

1854
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 2: Sports Red Zone Radio.

1855
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: Steve Hartman and Rit Chronberger. This is Fox Sports Red

1856
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:34,479
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1857
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,599
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1858
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,080
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1859
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,360
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1860
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,360
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1861
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,280
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1863
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,800
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1864
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 2: off the air. All Right, we're about a little over

1865
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 2: an hour way of kickoff between the greenmad Packers and

1866
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. And as I mentioned before, Betty against

1867
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 2: the Cowboys today would just be foolish.

1868
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: Again. They were eight to zero at home this year.

1869
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 2: They've won sixteen straight at home, and six of their

1870
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,799
Speaker 2: eight wins at home this year by at least twenty points.

1871
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 2: I sided that Seattle shootout, but just about every other

1872
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 2: game they've been blowing people out. I've said this about

1873
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 2: the Cowboys for years because obviously they've had players, they've

1874
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 2: had talent since their last Super Bowl run, which was

1875
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 2: the ninety five season. That's twenty eight years ago. They

1876
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 2: haven't even been back to the conference championship game.

1877
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: It's a wild season how long ago that was, and

1878
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 1: how high of esteem we still hold the franchise in

1879
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: when you really think about it, Because don't get me wrong,

1880
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: but you were nine years old I remember the end

1881
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: of the Akman years, them in Smith years, and I

1882
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: remember when the band broke up with Michael Arvin, and

1883
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, the next the next years in

1884
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, it really did feel like we were living

1885
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: in the afterglow of the Cowboys, because it wasn't until

1886
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots took over in the early two thousands that

1887
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: that that the the NFL shifted away from heralding the

1888
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys as the you know, the greatest America's team. Like

1889
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones did such a fantastic job marketing this team,

1890
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 1: and that continued through the Patriots' tenure of success with

1891
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick. Because still with with Tony Romo and

1892
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, they have been a marquee team in

1893
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 1: the league, a tent pole for the league for all

1894
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 1: these years, and they've had a lot of playoff disappointments.

1895
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: I believe the football gods intervene on Jerry Jones when

1896
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: he fired Jimmy Johnson.

1897
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 2: So I mean, when you when you look back at

1898
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 2: your house, well, here's the thing, is that what happened.

1899
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: So they were they inherited a three and thirteen team

1900
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 2: last year of Tom Landry. Yeah, and Jerry Jones comes

1901
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 2: in and he hires his former college. By the way,

1902
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 2: here's here's something that's a little bit overplayed with Jerry

1903
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 2: Jones and Jimmy Johnson. So they were teammates at the

1904
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,560
Speaker 2: University of Arkansas. In fact, they were even roommates. You

1905
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: know why they were roommates. It was alphabetical. Yeah, Jimmy

1906
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 2: Johnson and Jerry Jones. They were not tight. See here's

1907
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 2: one of the fallacies like they were best buddies in college.

1908
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: They really weren't.

1909
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 2: They're sort of fourced together because of their names Johnson

1910
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 2: and Jones.

1911
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, they're kind of like frenemies even exactly.

1912
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1913
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 2: So, but Jimmy Johnson's a hot ticket, you know, at

1914
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 2: the University of Miami. So you know, Jerry Jones hires them.

1915
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 2: Their first year together, they go one in fifteen. So

1916
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 2: go from three to thirteen to one in fifteen, and

1917
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 2: three years later they win the Super Bowl. They not

1918
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 2: only win the Super Bowl that year. In nineteen ninety

1919
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 2: two season, they have the youngest team in the league. Yeah,

1920
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 2: and this is before free agency, as you know, running

1921
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,799
Speaker 2: players off. So you've got not only a Super Bowl champion,

1922
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 2: they repeat the next year, and then all of a sudden,

1923
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 2: the jealousy of Jerry Jones that Jimmy Johnson's getting all

1924
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 2: his attention. Now they do win one more Super Bowl

1925
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 2: with Barry Switzer, despite the fact that they basically have

1926
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 2: the same nucleus. They could easily have won five or

1927
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 2: six straight Super Bowls. That's how good and how much

1928
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 2: talent those Dallas Cowboys teams had. But after that last

1929
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl win, it has been underachieving in the postseason.

1930
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 2: And maybe with finally putting Jimmy Johnson in the Ring

1931
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 2: of Honor after all these years, Yeah, maybe that's Jerry Jones'

1932
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 2: way of trying to call off the dogs that are

1933
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,759
Speaker 2: the football GUIDs, saying, all right, finally I gave Jimmy

1934
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 2: Johnson his day.

1935
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Now let me have my run. Because when you have talent,

1936
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,799
Speaker 1: you're just gonna luck into it. Sometimes.

1937
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes a lot of teams that end up winning the

1938
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 2: Super Bowl or getting to Super Bowls, things just happen.

1939
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: Bounce here, a bounce there, and they end up in

1940
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 2: the big Game, right yep, And you feel like the

1941
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 2: Cowboys have not gotten that bounce, and so maybe they're due.

1942
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: There are are two s.

1943
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm telling that there's something that might

1944
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: be happening with the Cowboys this year.

1945
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: You're but hey, something And don't get me wrong, I

1946
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys at home today against the Packers. Like,

1947
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: do you like them next week at home against the

1948
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: Rams potentially or the Lions or the Lions potentially? Yeah, yeah,

1949
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I do? At home, yes I do. Do you like

1950
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: them on the road against the forty nine? I'll tell

1951
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 1: you what. I actually like them better against the Lions

1952
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: than I do the Rams, so depending on the outcome

1953
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: to that game. But here, here's here's what Here's what

1954
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: I will say. You are almost completely staking your belief

1955
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys organization is about to their luck is

1956
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: about to turn around, because the equivalent of Jerry Jones

1957
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 1: burning sage around Jerry's world just makes sense to me.

1958
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a stretch. Here's what I will say.

1959
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Here's what I will say. This organization has drafted insanely. Well.

1960
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 1: Think about some of their recent stars. They're all homegrown talents.

1961
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: That Dandeelamb that Jerry and Steven Micah Parsons. I mean,

1962
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is a drafted player. You go through the

1963
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: list of stars on the Cowboys. Very few of them

1964
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 1: are huge free agent signings. Many of them are taken

1965
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 1: in the draft. There has been a lot of careful, detailed,

1966
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 1: excellent scouting and personnel decision.

1967
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:31,560
Speaker 2: May not draft Zach Martin, Who's going to be in

1968
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.

1969
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: He will be a Hall of Fame guard first ball.

1970
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: This is the type of organization that is one one

1971
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 1: decision away from getting it really really right, or maybe

1972
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 1: a couple of good breaks in the playoffs away from

1973
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 1: getting it really really right. If it doesn't work out though,

1974
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 1: if something goes wrong, Jordan Love goes on a heater,

1975
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: plays his best game at Jerry's World. Dak Prescott, you know,

1976
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: has a tough game because he's getting hit a lot,

1977
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: and maybe you know has a sack fumble that you

1978
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: can't blame on him. You gotta blame on the offensive line,

1979
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 1: and then maybe throws a pick. Two turnovers go the

1980
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: way of the Packers, and all of a sudden it's

1981
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: a wonky game for the Cowboys. They lose a close one.

1982
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 1: You gotta take a look around and take inventory of

1983
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 1: what you've gotten right. You've really gotten the roster right.

1984
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: I think you have a good enough quarterback, it's probably

1985
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 1: the head coach, right. You probably need to find a

1986
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 1: guy who can truly get them over the hump in

1987
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 1: situational moments, and who's got a better playoff resume, who's

1988
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: got more wins under his belt in the part of

1989
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,480
Speaker 1: the season that you've struggled the most than Bill Belichick.

1990
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,879
Speaker 1: See to me, the Cowboys are that one final decision

1991
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: away from being a real football team. So that's the

1992
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: reason why, even though I love them against the Packers today,

1993
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: I have real hesitance taking them seriously as a potential

1994
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:52,839
Speaker 1: NFC champions.

1995
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 2: Are you saying Belichick is an upgrade from Mike McCarthy?

1996
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 1: How dare you? How dare you?

1997
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 2: Don't you put those words in my mouth? Steve all right,

1998
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm speaking for you. Let's find out what is trending

1999
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 2: right now. I think that's a strong statement. I think

2000
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 2: I think it's one that I'm comfortable making. Yeah, all

2001
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 2: right with him, Okay, but I guess it does make

2002
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 2: it does make sense, all right, So I love where

2003
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 2: it makes sense if you're Jerry Jones. If you're Jerry Jones,

2004
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 2: even if even if the Cowboys were let's say, to

2005
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 2: make it to the NFC Championship Game and lose to

2006
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers. Yes, Jez, Bill Belichick is available.

2007
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 2: You hired Mike McCarthy because he won one Super Bowl.

2008
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 2: That's why he hired Mike McCarthy. Jeez, there's a guy

2009
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,799
Speaker 2: who's won six super Bowl Yeah, dude, exactly.

2010
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's this kind of feels like round peg

2011
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: round hole.

2012
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2013
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: Just let's uh, you know, we don't have to overthink

2014
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: this one, all right, So it's a lot of sense.

2015
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 6: What we said yesterday was he needs to go to

2016
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 6: a team that's kind of already established and.

2017
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 2: Just like pushed over the hump, right, and he wants

2018
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 2: that all time wins record with the Cowboys.

2019
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:11,560
Speaker 1: He get it in a year and a half. And

2020
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: Jerry also he gets to then take the bows alongside

2021
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: Belichick for all you.

2022
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 7: Know, look pretty epic.

2023
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: We hired the rat guy. We feel good about it,

2024
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 1: and you know, no better place than than Dallas, Texas.

2025
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 1: All Right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna jump on this bandwagon.

2026
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm gonna say, unless Mike McCarthy takes this

2027
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys team to the super Bowl, go ahead, Yeah, he's gone.

2028
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah's and will be replaced by Bill Belichick. Man, you

2029
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 2: heard it here first.

2030
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: Anybody else have that story started with Rich but he

2031
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: convinced me, Yeah, I think hes Tolichick's next team is

2032
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 1: still playing.

2033
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 7: It's still playing.

2034
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: It's still playing right now.

2035
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 7: Totally.

2036
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 2: I'm with that.

2037
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 1: I'm with that.

2038
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 6: What game that is not currently going on, which should

2039
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 6: have been going going on was the Bills and the

2040
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 6: Steelers and you guys, I'm sure heard that the Bills

2041
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 6: were offering fans to come and shovel snow right to

2042
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 6: may them twenty dollars an hour.

2043
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 7: So Bleacher Report has a video right now. I assume

2044
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 7: this is what is used.

2045
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 6: I don't deal with snow ever, but they've put like

2046
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 6: a slide right where you throw the snow in to

2047
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 6: like get it to go down. This gentleman, classy gentleman

2048
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 6: without a shirt, jumped on this slide and is pushing

2049
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 6: just all of the snow down into one suite.

2050
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 1: There you go here, it is there, it is.

2051
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 7: Tell me this that shirt is off and it is

2052
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 7: a blizzard. Jumps on there and just there he goes

2053
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 7: taking all the snow down.

2054
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 1: All right.

2055
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 2: You saw the Yahoo guy that took off his shirt

2056
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 2: yesterday in negative twenty seven degree wind chill.

2057
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's not a good thing. Of course,

2058
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 1: not the news out this morning. He no longer has nipples.

2059
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean they have.

2060
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 2: They actually have warnings about how long you can be

2061
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: exposed to this weather without having frostbite.

2062
01:45:58,960 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 3: Right.

2063
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, By the way, I made that up. I don't

2064
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: know if the guy's nipples or not. But all I'm

2065
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: saying is, don't do that.

2066
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 7: Don't do that.

2067
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that is all he is saying.

2068
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 7: All right, we still have two games today for the doubleheader.

2069
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 6: Good news for Packers fans because wide receiver Christian Watson,

2070
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 6: who's been dealing with a hamstring injury, and cornerback Jaire

2071
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 6: Alexander he's been dealing with an ankle and shoulder injury.

2072
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 6: They are both active for their game against the Cowboys,

2073
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 6: which you guys were just talking about. We are about

2074
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 6: an hour away from kickoff in Dallas. Then later today

2075
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 6: at eight pm Eastern time, it's gonna be the Jared

2076
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 6: Goff Matthew Stafford show facing each other going up against

2077
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 6: their former teams. And Sam laporta tight end of the

2078
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 6: Detroit Lions. He's dealing in the right direction to play.

2079
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 6: He's been dealing with the bone brus and hyper extended

2080
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 6: me again. This one is the last game of the

2081
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 6: day at eight pm Eastern time.

2082
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 3: J J.

2083
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 6: McCarthy Michigan quarterback and running back Blake Korum have both

2084
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 6: officially declared for the NFL Draft, So another quarterback in

2085
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 6: the mix.

2086
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, II mon see, thank you very

2087
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: very much.

2088
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 2: Next time we check in with you, there'll be a

2089
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 2: game going, actually game kicking off between the Packers and

2090
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:04,440
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

2091
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:10,560
Speaker 1: All right, I have some bad news, okay for the

2092
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Thank you. Oh no, Chris Purfett. Well, it

2093
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: could be bad news, are really good news? It could

2094
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: be either one. But here's the bad news.

2095
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 2: We've been talking over the last couple of weeks about

2096
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 2: potential Super Bowl opponents, and we asked the question, if

2097
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 2: you take the Ravens and the forty nine ers at

2098
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 2: the mix, and they're both prohibitive favorites with the number

2099
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 2: one seeds to get to the Super Bowl, take them out,

2100
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 2: who is your most likely opponents? Now, you went with

2101
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the Eagles, like a rematch of last

2102
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 2: year's Super Bowl, which is still in play. My play

2103
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 2: is no longer in play, and I went with the

2104
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 2: idea of the Browns and the Lions, And there's this

2105
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 2: whole thing about the symmetry of these organizations. The last

2106
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 2: time the Lions were in the NFL Championship Game, they

2107
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 2: played the Cleveland Browns nineteen fifty seven. In fact, those

2108
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 2: two teams face each other four times in six years

2109
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:10,759
Speaker 2: during the nineteen fifties. So I've been saying all along,

2110
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 2: if one of those teams are in, both of those

2111
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 2: teams are in. Well, now one of those teams are out.

2112
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 2: My gut feeling is I love the Rams today.

2113
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Okay. So we have been saying this about the Lions

2114
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 1: so all season long.

2115
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 3: I I'm.

2116
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: One hundred percent with you.

2117
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because the Lions still are untested at this level.

2118
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell forgetting this team to the playoff in his

2119
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: third season as a head coach is very, very impressive.

2120
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 2: They were favored going into the year to win the

2121
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 2: NFC North.

2122
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: But you have to look at you have to look

2123
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 1: at progression, right, you have to look at the matter

2124
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: of things, you know what I mean, like the way

2125
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: things work in the world. Okay, I'll give you close

2126
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 1: your eyes. I did this practice yesterday and yesterday's morning

2127
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 1: show countdown to kickoff for a second, You're about to

2128
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 1: go under the knife. You're gonna have a major surgery.

2129
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 3: Right.

2130
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 1: I apologize for anybody who's actually going through this, and

2131
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 1: maybe this is a little bit of a triggering situation,

2132
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 1: but close your eyes and imagine you're about to go

2133
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: under the knife and have a major surgery. And right

2134
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 1: before you get the sleepy time gas, right, they're about

2135
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 1: to come over your face.

2136
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 2: With I had this race line, had another colonoscopy. I

2137
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 2: always whenever they come with a mask, you know, you're

2138
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 2: always like, I'm gonna I'm gonna.

2139
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: Imagine your surgeon as the as the mask is coming

2140
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: down over your face. He goes. And by the way, yeah,

2141
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: this is my first time doing this, and I am thrilled.

2142
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. I think I've been doing a really

2143
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: good job, like in the practice, like the warm ups. Yes,

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01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: so I'm excited. So you may not wake up again.

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01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: You're you're my first. You're gonna be like, get me

2146
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 1: out of here, get me wait, wait, wait, wait, what's

2147
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: going across the street? Wait? What what's going on across

2148
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 1: the street? What's that you say? You say, the surgeon

2149
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 1: across the street has been to the Super Bowl twice,

2150
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 1: he's won one, Okay, And you say, like his his assistant,

2151
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: like in surgery, like he's he's been doing it for

2152
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: even longer at the NFL, or at the NFL. Oh no, no,

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01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 1: I want that surgeon. That is the difference between Dan

2154
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 1: Campbell and Sean McVay. Sean McVay has been through the

2155
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 1: postseason wars yese Hatthew Stafford with success, potentially a Hall

2156
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback, are you I mean, look, I get it,

2157
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 1: the Rams are dogged, they're on the road. But if

2158
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 1: let's go back two years ago throw your faith behind

2159
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 1: one of these franchises in a vacuum, it's hard for

2160
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,839
Speaker 1: me to get there and say, well, it's definitely the Lions.

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01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: How did the Rams get to the Super Bowl two

2162
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 2: years ago? They went into Tampa, Yes, against the defending

2163
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions and Tom Brady and beat them.

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01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 1: That was Sean McVeigh. That was Sean McVay like, and

2165
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 1: by the way, Matthew Stafford made an incredible decision. He

2166
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 1: and Cooper cup who both by the way, are healthy

2167
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 1: and playing excellent football down the stretch of the season.

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01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: That was a route you weren't even supposed to throw

2169
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 1: the football to. It was like a for a love

2170
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: of the game route. That big catch by Cooper Cup

2171
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 1: to keep that game alive. He was just clearing out

2172
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 1: defenders and then all of a sudden it came open

2173
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,600
Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford is smart enough to understand what the

2174
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: defense was doing. Rotation wise got him. The football saved

2175
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 1: the game. Like it comes down to moments, it comes

2176
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: down to plays, it comes down to experience, it comes

2177
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: down to feel. Jared Goff used to be a ram.

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01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 1: Sean McVay coached him. He knows all of his weaknesses.

2179
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:44,600
Speaker 1: He understands his body language and his facial expressions. He

2180
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: understands how he moves, what he likes, what he doesn't like.

2181
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: If there's anybody who can attack the Lions quarterback better

2182
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 1: than Sean McVay raised their hand. You can't. It's Sean McVay.

2183
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 2: All right, now, Let's bring in Chris Okay, here we go.

2184
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 2: So Chris is our resid and then die Hard, not

2185
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 2: some Johnny come lately. He has always been, always will

2186
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 2: be ed Detroit Lions fan.

2187
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 1: You keep doing that word fan like I cover the team.

2188
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: Well I understand, but you're a fan. Is I cover

2189
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 1: the team? Like, don't put me down as just a fan.

2190
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 1: Well I understand this, but you're a fan that also

2191
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 1: covers the team. That means, like, you can still be objective.

2192
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:25,599
Speaker 1: I'll cover. I have seen, but but he's he's actually

2193
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 1: setting us up here a little bit. Okay, Well, the.

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01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 2: Bottom line is, I know he's a fan, he's way

2195
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 2: beyond something that covers the franchise because I have seen

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01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 2: his state of mind altered. Remember that one time, wansee

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01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 2: where we were getting ready for your update and all

2198
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 2: of a sudden he's playing a highlight like we've already

2199
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 2: finished the update.

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01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 1: That was my best time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was during a Lions game. That was

2202
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, he was a little messed up that day.

2203
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, who were they?

2204
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 1: Who are they playing that? We don't even know? That

2205
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: was the Vikings? That was that was that was the

2206
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 1: clinch vision. I'm what was going on with you? Objectively?

2207
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: He admitted that he was. He was all over the

2208
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 1: I hold back emotion for a very long time.

2209
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Speaker 2: So you are a fan, but you are someone very

2210
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 2: near and dear to this organization because you cover it.

2211
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: On covering them for what years is now nine years?

2212
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 1: Nine years? All right, So I think what my gut.

2213
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 2: So certainly when I picked something, it usually works the

2214
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 2: opposite way, that's right.

2215
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 1: But I think that some of the some of the

2216
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: details of let me ask you guys, you guys were

2217
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 1: doing this like whole thing about doesn't have experience of

2218
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Were you guys doing that yesterday? For Tamiko

2219
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 1: Ryans No, as a matter of fact, has plenty of experience.

2220
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 1: I didn't need to because I took the Browns and

2221
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 1: I got an egg on my face. I had I

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01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 1: had the Browns winning that game and Flacco winning that game,

2223
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 1: and I talked about the same thing yesterday. You might

2224
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 1: get an egg on your face here. I couldn't be

2225
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: very well.

2226
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 2: Let's take the fan out of it and just talk

2227
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 2: about someone that really knows this organization covering this team

2228
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 2: throughout the season. What do you think are the Lion's

2229
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 2: strengths beyond me, let's say home field advantage in this

2230
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 2: matchup against the Rams.

2231
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 1: So I mean, for the offensive side, it's going to

2232
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: be dependent upon that offensive line to keep Jared Goff straight.

2233
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 1: As long as he does that, I know it's a

2234
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: very good pass rush from the Rams. But as long

2235
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 1: as you hold that there and keep a ground game honest,

2236
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: then they have the varied weapons. I wasn't really worried

2237
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: about Sam Laporta being out for this game because you

2238
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 1: still have Saint Brown and they made brock right work

2239
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: last year. It would be a likely. Now is huge.

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Speaker 1: It would be a very big boon, especially since they'll

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01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 1: also have against Saint Brown, Jamison Williams and all those

2242
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,879
Speaker 1: other weapons they've leaned on Jamiir Gibbs in the backfield.

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01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 1: On the other side, the Lions defense has always been

2244
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: two things. One, they want to blitz you. Now that'll

2245
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 1: be hard against Matthew Stafford. He picks up blitzes very well.

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01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 1: But they hope to blitz you. They hope to put

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01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: pressure on you, and they hope to just get you

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01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: to make a few mistakes. We've seen them in like

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01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, third and twenty situations giving up a long ball,

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01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 1: and I think that's what everyone's focused on. But well,

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01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 1: the keeper tunistic offense defense. See the key to the

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01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 1: Ramps success this year offensively is Kiran Williams. Well, doubt

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01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 1: he Anton. The Lions run love going up against run,

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01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: run heavy teams.

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Speaker 2: Not only did he finish third in the NFL and

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01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 2: rushing yards, he averages five yards to carry. Yeah, he's

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01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 2: a guy who was hurt as a rookie last year,

2258
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 2: didn't get a big opportunity. They bench cam akers game two,

2259
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 2: handed this ball to Kyron Williams. He ends up in

2260
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. Because you can go back to Sean

2261
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: mcvay's greatest success as a coach is when he has

2262
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 2: an elite running back yet gurly back in the day

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01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 2: for Jered Goff and now all of a sudden, the

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01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 2: emergence of Kyron Williams has changed the plus the return

2265
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 2: of Cooper cop and Pooka Nakua and a quarterback who,

2266
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 2: by the way, made the Pro Bowl for the first

2267
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 2: time in his career, actually the initial Pro.

2268
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 1: Bowl team he was once an alternate with the line.

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01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 1: I know we got to get out, but like I know,

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01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: the attention has been on the two quarterback I have

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01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 1: to go out. We're going to go right through the

2272
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 1: update and everything, but I know we put our attention

2273
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 1: on the two quarterbacks in this game because it is

2274
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: a reunion. But the bigger story really if you're watching

2275
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 1: the game closely will be these two run games. Will

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01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: be Kyron Williams for the Rams if he can go

2277
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 1: past that Lions run defense. And it will be the

2278
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 1: fact that the Lions has staked a lot of their

2279
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: rebuild on an offensive line so they can run the

2280
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 1: ball with Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery.

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01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 2: Both of these quarterbacks are dependent on a strong running

2282
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 2: game for the play action. If they get any running

2283
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 2: game at all, that affords some time. And we know

2284
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 2: the one thing about Jared Goff, if he gets time,

2285
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 2: he can deliver.

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01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 1: The ball big time. If there was a moment, and

2287
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, and we talked about this, and

2288
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: I was on Dan Campbell's side, if there was a

2289
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 1: moment that really changed the way I came a route

2290
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions in the postseason, Yes, was going for

2291
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 1: it three times for that two point conversion in Dallas

2292
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: after the penalty. Yeah, he was on tilt. You cannot

2293
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: coach emotionally. You have to coach the situation. The postseason

2294
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: gets emotional. So Sean McVay, I trust him a lot

2295
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 1: more than I trust Dan Campbell, and.

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01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 2: I do believe that the coaching matchup cannot be underplayed. No,

2297
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: because Sean McVay, as you mentioned, has already made two

2298
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 2: runs of the Super Bowl. What they did a couple

2299
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 2: of years ago to go into Tampa and beat Tom

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01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 2: Brady in the Buccaneers says a lot about the quality

2301
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 2: of coach. All right, So that's gonna be the game

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01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 2: coming up later today. I pick the Rams. Rich is

2303
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 2: picking the Rams? And which way are you going me?

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01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Find out on the other side.

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01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 2: All right, we'll continue on the conversation. We had two

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01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 2: games tomorrow as well. This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio,

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01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Rich Horberger, Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We're

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01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 2: live from the ti Raq dot Com studios. All right,

2309
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 2: so we've been obviously talking about what's going to go

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01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 2: on with this Lions team.

2311
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: Look at it.

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01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 2: It's interesting when you talk about what team has the

2313
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 2: most at stake in this first Wildcar Weekend. First of all,

2314
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 2: just making the playoffs any year is an accomplishment in

2315
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 2: the NFL. Oh yes, let's start right there. Thirty two teams,

2316
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 2: four team make the playoffs. You make the playoffs as

2317
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 2: evenly matched as most teams are in the NFL. By

2318
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 2: the way, I think there were more one score games

2319
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 2: this year in the NFL than any season in recent memory.

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01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: It's like one of the all time records. It was

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01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,760
Speaker 1: more parody this year than we've seen in a lot

2322
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 1: of year and a lot of years.

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01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 2: So, I mean, there's not a lot of difference between

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01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 2: a ten and sevent team and a seven and ten team.

2325
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 2: A couple of bounces is the difference. So just making

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01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But when you talk about an organization like

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01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 2: the Lions just to win their division title, Chris, again,

2328
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 2: when was the last time that the Detroit Lions were

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01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 2: crowned as division champions?

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01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: That would have been nineteen ninety three as champions of

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01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 1: the NFC Central. Okay, so now we're talking thirty years

2332
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: since they won a division title. Mission accomplished. Yeah, everything

2333
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 1: else at this point is a bonus. You did something

2334
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 1: you haven't done in thirty years. Now, if you want

2335
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: to add two more years to that, that would be

2336
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 1: the last time you want a playoff game.

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01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, that would be an added bonus. But they've

2338
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,400
Speaker 2: already accomplished something that they haven't done in thirty years.

2339
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 2: I think the Lions are in good shape. Anything that

2340
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 2: happens in this postseason this year is a bonus.

2341
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 1: They're playing with house money. I believe that when when

2342
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: you go to a casino and the first bet, you know,

2343
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 1: the first pull of a slot machine, the first hand

2344
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 1: of blackjack, all of a sudden, that's you a huge win.

2345
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: You feel you feel like you could spend maybe more

2346
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: than you have. That's how I feel about the Detroit Lions.

2347
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 1: They could They could play like their hairs on fire tonight.

2348
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 1: Because the the truth is, whatever Detroit fans want to

2349
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 1: say about the outcome of this game against the Rams,

2350
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to hang their hat on

2351
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: another successful season following their last success last year, and

2352
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: they'll be able to build on it moving forward into

2353
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: the future.

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Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. If they win, it's a bonus. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it. It'll be a disappointment, yeah, because it's

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Speaker 2: always a disappointment if you make the playoffs and lose

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Speaker 2: because you've invested in the season, you've gotten to the postseason.

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Speaker 1: And believe me, Dolphin fans have been feeling it. Today.

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Speaker 2: We got much more, including two games coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: This is at some point today we are going to

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Speaker 2: have NFL football. Don't have to worry about the weather

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Speaker 2: today Okay, because we got games indoors today.

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Speaker 1: That's going to.

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Speaker 2: should be. You know, the Miami Dolphins really screwed this

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Speaker 2: whole week up, not only for themselves with the league,

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Speaker 2: because they lost at home to the Bills last week.

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Speaker 2: Had they won the game, they would have hosted the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't think of that yet. But the Steelers

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Speaker 1: got then we wouldn't have been able to see the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: who are like really good team this year in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Okay, not only did the Steelers get into the postseason,

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02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 2: but we have a game in Buffalo under any circumstance.

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Speaker 2: The Governor of New York she has now come out

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Speaker 2: and said that no matter what the weather is like

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Speaker 2: projected for tomorrow, there will.

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Speaker 1: Be a game tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So the weather report is not great for tomorrow, but

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Speaker 2: better than it is today in Buffalo. So we're talking

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Speaker 2: about snow that is falling today at a rate of

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Speaker 2: three to six inches an hour with win up to

2389
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Speaker 2: fifty miles an hour. Yep, that's what's happening in Buffalo today.

2390
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 2: So right now everything is shut down as far as

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Speaker 2: traveling to the city of Buffalo. They have a travel

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Speaker 2: band going on in Buffalo. So let's do the math.

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Speaker 2: You can clear the snow before a game at a stadium, sure, well,

2394
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 2: once the game starts, you do not clear snow.

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Speaker 1: You can't clear it as it goes. Well, yes, but

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Speaker 1: at the same token, yeah, you do have You do

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Speaker 1: have fans who are going to be occupying all these

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Speaker 1: seats and they generate body heat. So whatever snow lands

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Speaker 1: in the stands or on the fans is a lot

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Speaker 1: of It's gonna melt. In terms of the sideline, same thing,

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02:02:45,280 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 1: but the field. They will at times clear the field

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Speaker 1: so that you can see the lines.

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Speaker 2: All right, So here is that the governor said about

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Speaker 2: what it's going to be tomorrow in Buffalo. She says

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Speaker 2: game time, which is four thirty Eastern tomorrow. Weather conditions

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Speaker 2: will be very cold, They'll be in the low teens,

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Speaker 2: wind chill factors at zero, and they believe that these

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Speaker 2: high winds that they have today and the complete dumping

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Speaker 2: of snow, the white out that's going on in Buffalo

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Speaker 2: will subside. It's not going to be by any stretch

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Speaker 2: of the imagination ideal situation. They are expecting snow flurries

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Speaker 2: for tomorrow's game, like that's that's what we're looking at.

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Speaker 1: Oh, listen, I know we're in southern California.

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Speaker 2: Is making it clear though there will be a game tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: they are not moving the game again.

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Speaker 1: And I know that you know, none of us right

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02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 1: now are in Buffalo, are experiencing what's happening. But let's

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02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 1: be very honest with you. I grew up in New York.

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02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 1: I played at Penn State. I played for the New

2420
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 1: England Patriots for three years after a five year college career.

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02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:57,600
Speaker 1: I spent the majority of my life playing football in

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Speaker 1: extreme cold during the end of the far into the winter. Correct.

2423
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:05,240
Speaker 1: I've played in blizzard games and snow games and ice

2424
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:08,680
Speaker 1: cold games and games in high school. They were awful,

2425
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:10,760
Speaker 1: some of them. It's just the way it goes when

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02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 1: you play in the northeast of this country. People from Buffalo.

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02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 1: Now they got very defensive of Steelers fans, Pittsburgh fans

2428
02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 1: who were picking on them on Twitter or x who

2429
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 1: are saying things like, oh, this is soft and you know,

2430
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 1: and this was going to be such an advantage for

2431
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:32,400
Speaker 1: the Steelers in this snow game because Josh Allen would

2432
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 1: have been less effective with the wind and everything, so

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02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 1: it would have leveled the playing field. And so there

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02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:40,240
Speaker 1: were people in Buffalo are getting really sensitive about this.

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Speaker 1: The weird thing about all this is it always feels

2436
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 1: like when a politician gets involved with football, it always

2437
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 1: feels like all they're really trying to do is get

2438
02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 1: their name attached to something as often as possible. I've

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02:04:57,400 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 1: never really heard about the governor of New York up

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02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 1: until this point, and now all I'm hearing about is

2441
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 1: the Governor of New York, right. You know, her name

2442
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:08,440
Speaker 1: is attached to every single report coming out of this

2443
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,240
Speaker 1: playoff game. She's in charge. She's in charge. She's making

2444
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:15,080
Speaker 1: all the calls, guys, so that she promises there will

2445
02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:18,200
Speaker 1: be football, which, by the way, she's telling you what

2446
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 1: the NFL is telling her. That's how this is working.

2447
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 1: The NFL is making all the decisions here. I can

2448
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Speaker 1: promise you that.

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02:05:24,160 --> 02:05:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to go an extra day because

2450
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 2: you have another round of the playoffs. Yeah, you're not

2451
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 2: going to short change a team and give them one

2452
02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 2: less day to prepare, even the fact that we have

2453
02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 2: remember this used to be a two day affair.

2454
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 1: Now it was a three day affair.

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02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:40,960
Speaker 2: As an NFL just tries to milk every cent they can,

2456
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 2: which is understandable.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it's as simple as that. And it lands

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02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 1: on Martin Luther King Junior Day, which is a day

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02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 1: off for most schools and a lot of people who

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02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:54,160
Speaker 1: are working, and so it's perfect timing. Actually, if you

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02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 1: had to postpone a game, this would be a great

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02:05:57,160 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 1: weekend to put this game on a Monday anyway. I mean,

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Speaker 1: having said all that, when we think about the weather

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02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 1: and the impact it's going to have on this game,

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02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 1: it will have an impact, but no more than the

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02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 1: impact and potentially less than the impact we saw in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City last night against the Miami Dolphins between those

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Speaker 1: two teams, because when you have frigid temperatures like that

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02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 1: and when that's blowing, I mean, it's just as difficult

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Speaker 1: as playing when you have frigid temperatures and wind that's blowing,

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Speaker 1: and a little snow on the ground. The only difference

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Speaker 1: is footing. At times, sometimes it's not even an issue,

2473
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 1: depending on how much snow is on the ground. We'll see.

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02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 1: We haven't seen the game. Weather's unpredictable. We'll see what

2475
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 1: the conditions are alike at kickoff. They could be absolutely atrocious,

2476
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 1: and this could actually be kind of a fun slog

2477
02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:48,560
Speaker 1: watching two teams, you know, like pigs on ice out

2478
02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:50,600
Speaker 1: there trying to keep their footing in a snow game.

2479
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 1: Or it could be something different than what meteorologists are

2480
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:57,680
Speaker 1: predicting because the weather is unpredictable. We'll see when we

2481
02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 1: get there. One thing I can tell you is the

2482
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 1: weather is it, without a doubt, a benefit to the

2483
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers.

2484
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 2: Again, the Dolphins screw this all up because if Buffalo

2485
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:13,360
Speaker 2: had lost that game, they would have been the seventh

2486
02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:16,160
Speaker 2: seed with no chance of ever hosting a game in

2487
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 2: the postseason. Yeah, no seventh seed can host. The gate

2488
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 2: can't be a lower seat. Yeah, okay, so it's all

2489
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 2: about the Dolphins. We got no problem with the weather today.

2490
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:28,840
Speaker 2: Indoor games in Dallas and Detroit, all right, We're half

2491
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 2: an hour away now to kick off this game between

2492
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 2: the Packers and the Cowboys, and again everything points to

2493
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 2: not just the Cowboys win, but an easy win a

2494
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 2: no at home. This year, six of those eight wins

2495
02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 2: by at least twenty points. The Packers are playing well

2496
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 2: at the end. They did something this year they couldn't

2497
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 2: do last year, and that was closed the deal by

2498
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 2: getting that final win at home to qualify for the postseason.

2499
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 2: They have a prolific offense led by Jordan Love thirty

2500
02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:01,080
Speaker 2: two touchdown passes, second only to Iron Dak Prescott at

2501
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:04,560
Speaker 2: Cowboys thirty six, but it is a defense that has

2502
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:08,240
Speaker 2: not played well against any team really, and now they're

2503
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 2: going against a team that at home is seemingly unstoppable. Again,

2504
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm rooting.

2505
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 1: For the Packers.

2506
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 2: I want to get you know, when I don't have

2507
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:19,880
Speaker 2: a rooting interest in the game, I just want a

2508
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:21,640
Speaker 2: game where I'm sitting there in the fourth quarter and

2509
02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 2: there's still something to be decided, which was not the

2510
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:27,240
Speaker 2: case yesterday in two games that really got you know,

2511
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 2: ugly in the second half. But if it's going to happen,

2512
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, whatever he's done so far, is going to

2513
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 2: have to go next level, Like he's going to have

2514
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 2: to have, you know, four hundred yards passing, four touchdowns

2515
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 2: and somehow they hang tight in a shootout, similar to

2516
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 2: what the Seahawks did earlier this year when they.

2517
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:49,000
Speaker 1: Played the Cowboys in Dallas. Well, you know, you say

2518
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to go next level. And I'm not

2519
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 1: saying that he's he's thrown for four hundred yards every

2520
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 1: week because he hasn't. But this is a guy who's

2521
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:02,760
Speaker 1: come to the end of his season with some gaudy stats.

2522
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean that finale against a good defense against the

2523
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, he completed eighty four plus percent of his

2524
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:14,360
Speaker 1: passes for three hundred and sixteen yards, two touchdown, zero interceptions,

2525
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 1: He was only sacked once, and he looked like he

2526
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:19,560
Speaker 1: was in complete control of the game from the word go.

2527
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:24,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Love had a strong and I mean strong finish

2528
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 1: to his first campaign as a full time starter with

2529
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:30,720
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, and it bodes extremely well for

2530
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:33,680
Speaker 1: the future. But again, when we're looking at the postseason,

2531
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:35,600
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm rooting for a close game too,

2532
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 1: because I don't have a vested interest in either side.

2533
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:43,080
Speaker 1: Experience matters and if there's one thing that was really

2534
02:09:43,160 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 1: a trademark of a lot of the teams that beat

2535
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys in the postseason, when you look at

2536
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:52,839
Speaker 1: their resume of losses, it's usually against a more experienced

2537
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:56,200
Speaker 1: playoff quarterback than Dak was at the time of the game. Well,

2538
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:58,840
Speaker 1: this is one where Dak has the edge. Dak's been

2539
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:01,440
Speaker 1: in the wars, he's been in the he's one games,

2540
02:10:01,480 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 1: he's lost games, He's he's got experience. I think that matters,

2541
02:10:05,360 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 1: especially having the advantage of hosting the Packers.

2542
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 2: Now, the idea that this is Jordan Love's first playoff game, well,

2543
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:17,839
Speaker 2: it's a fact, but it's not really true. The Packers

2544
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 2: were at three and six and they went six and

2545
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 2: two down the stretch. They had to win every one

2546
02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:26,600
Speaker 2: of those games. So when you get late in the

2547
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 2: season and you're in a must win situation, it's like

2548
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 2: a playoff game because you know if you don't win

2549
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:37,280
Speaker 2: the game, your season's going to end. And by the way,

2550
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:40,560
Speaker 2: over that six and two stretch that they won down

2551
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:44,960
Speaker 2: the stretch, yeah, Jordan Love eighteen touchdowns, one pick.

2552
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:48,560
Speaker 1: Then get much better than that.

2553
02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 2: Well, so you go six and two in an eight

2554
02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:53,160
Speaker 2: game run where you really needed to win them all

2555
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 2: to get into the postseason, and your quarterback has eighteen

2556
02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 2: touchdowns and one pick over that eight game stretch. That's

2557
02:10:59,080 --> 02:11:01,800
Speaker 2: the Jordan Love that's taking the field in Dallas today,

2558
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:04,120
Speaker 2: Arlington well, and last year.

2559
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 1: If you remember, it was another first time playoff quarterback

2560
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:14,120
Speaker 1: who got the win with Brock Purdy. And it's one

2561
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:18,600
Speaker 1: of those situations where it can Lightning can strike twice sometimes.

2562
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 1: I know. That's like the myth like, well, it's imp Well, no,

2563
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:24,120
Speaker 1: we've seen this before in the NFL. There are times

2564
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:27,360
Speaker 1: where you know you have an opportunity, like the Packers

2565
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 1: have from going from one Hall of Famer to another

2566
02:11:30,080 --> 02:11:32,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in terms of succession plans with your quarterbacks.

2567
02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 1: That's like having lightning strike twice.

2568
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:35,360
Speaker 6: You know.

2569
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:37,520
Speaker 1: So for Dallas, in terms of being on the losing

2570
02:11:37,680 --> 02:11:39,920
Speaker 1: end of a matchup against a first time starter in

2571
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:44,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's possible. I don't deem it as likely,

2572
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:49,360
Speaker 1: especially given how great the Dallas Cowboys have looked at

2573
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 1: home all season long, but it is possible. You also

2574
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:55,320
Speaker 1: look across the sideline. You talk about experience with Matt Lafleur.

2575
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:59,600
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur is a savvy and veteran playoff coach as well,

2576
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:03,480
Speaker 1: like this is his first rodeo and and you know,

2577
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:06,320
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was pretty honest and open about some of

2578
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:09,880
Speaker 1: the things that he did leading up to the most

2579
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:14,840
Speaker 1: recent matchup with Green Bay in the postseason when he

2580
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 1: had taken over as Dak's head coach, or excuse me,

2581
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 1: as Dallas's head coach or I don't know if it

2582
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:21,560
Speaker 1: was a postseason might have been in the regular season.

2583
02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:22,920
Speaker 1: When he went back to Green Bay, he did a

2584
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:25,880
Speaker 1: lot of talking about Green Bay. You know, he was

2585
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of waxing poetic to his team about you know,

2586
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:30,720
Speaker 1: his time in Green Bay and what it meant to

2587
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:32,440
Speaker 1: him and stuff like that. He's like, I did none

2588
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 1: of that. This week, he goes, that doesn't matter where

2589
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:38,920
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. And so I think it's important to

2590
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,960
Speaker 1: respect your past. I think it's important to understand where

2591
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:43,920
Speaker 1: you came from. But you also have to treat this

2592
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:48,240
Speaker 1: like just another game. You know, the postseason it amps

2593
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:52,480
Speaker 1: up a certain level. I remember getting involved in postseason

2594
02:12:52,520 --> 02:12:55,680
Speaker 1: games and feeling, wow, yeah, you are getting everybody, everybody

2595
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:58,240
Speaker 1: on the field's best shot because they know you either

2596
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 1: play your heart out or you're going home. It's a

2597
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:04,440
Speaker 1: very different feeling than the regular season. However, having said that,

2598
02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 1: you've got to control the moment by realizing this is

2599
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 1: just another opportunity to perform. This is no different than

2600
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 1: any of the other seventeen games we've played this season.

2601
02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:14,760
Speaker 1: We just have to find a way to get a

2602
02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:15,360
Speaker 1: w today.

2603
02:13:15,400 --> 02:13:17,680
Speaker 2: In advance, all right, quick note here the last time

2604
02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 2: the Cowboys were a position where there were one or

2605
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 2: two seed going into the postseason was Dak Prescott's rookie

2606
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:27,000
Speaker 2: season and twenty sixteen member he and Zeke Gllio had

2607
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 2: had those phenomenal rookie seasons.

2608
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:33,720
Speaker 1: I was twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen and twenty sixteen seven

2609
02:13:34,160 --> 02:13:36,520
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen postseason, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2610
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:40,360
Speaker 2: And that was a year where they were the one

2611
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,120
Speaker 2: seed in the NFC. They went thirteen to three to

2612
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 2: Green Bay and lost to Mike McCarthy. Yeah, and the

2613
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:48,320
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers in that first game.

2614
02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:52,640
Speaker 1: And that was that game where again Dak actually performed

2615
02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:57,920
Speaker 1: pretty well in the game. He was accurate, he was dealing,

2616
02:13:58,600 --> 02:14:01,160
Speaker 1: but Aaron Rodgers then to that game, he just took

2617
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:05,280
Speaker 1: over that final drive the It was just an unbelievable

2618
02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 1: drive by Aaron Rodgers which kept the Packers alive.

2619
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty four to thirty one was the final theres

2620
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:12,000
Speaker 2: the Packers won on the road against the Cowboys. I

2621
02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:14,520
Speaker 2: will continue on to break down this game about the kickoff,

2622
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 2: plus the Lions and the Rams later on. This is

2623
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:21,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone Radio Steve Harbin and Rich Rnberger.

2624
02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:24,480
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. We are live

2625
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. All right, so

2626
02:14:27,800 --> 02:14:30,240
Speaker 2: while we await the kickoff here between the Packers and

2627
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:33,040
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, let's talk a little bit about the games

2628
02:14:33,160 --> 02:14:35,280
Speaker 2: going on tomorrow.

2629
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't even gotten to Morgan the Bill Steelers.

2630
02:14:42,160 --> 02:14:46,200
Speaker 2: So we have the Bills and Steelers, and again Mike

2631
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:49,879
Speaker 2: Tomlin got the Steelers into the playoffs.

2632
02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:53,040
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're gonna say Mike Tomlin. You're

2633
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna say Mike Tomlin's name first. Mason Rudolph. All right,

2634
02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:00,000
Speaker 1: let's start with Mason Rudolf.

2635
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 2: So I watching Mason Rudolph win these games down the

2636
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:09,040
Speaker 2: stretch that got Pittsburgh into the postseason. Yeah, okay, you

2637
02:15:09,120 --> 02:15:15,480
Speaker 2: got Kenny Pickett, you got Mitchell or call me Mitch Trubisky.

2638
02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:18,880
Speaker 1: Sure, and then you have a guy that was there

2639
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:20,040
Speaker 1: before both of them.

2640
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:24,120
Speaker 2: When Mason Rudolph was drafted after a great career at

2641
02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:28,600
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, he was deemed the heir apparent to Ben Roethlisberger. Sure,

2642
02:15:29,400 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 2: and despite the addition of Trubisky and the drafting a Picket,

2643
02:15:34,120 --> 02:15:36,800
Speaker 2: for some reason, they kept Mason Rudolph on the roster.

2644
02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:38,080
Speaker 1: He never went anywhere.

2645
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:41,840
Speaker 2: And then you bring him in and I dare say

2646
02:15:42,080 --> 02:15:47,400
Speaker 2: he has played way better than either Picket or Trubisky

2647
02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:50,280
Speaker 2: played at any point during this season, at any point

2648
02:15:50,320 --> 02:15:50,840
Speaker 2: of the season.

2649
02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:54,200
Speaker 1: Well, he's been doing a nice job protecting the football

2650
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:59,200
Speaker 1: and really protecting wins. I mean, they they went on

2651
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:00,400
Speaker 1: a nice little well.

2652
02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:03,000
Speaker 2: This is not like Joe Flacco who turns thirty nine,

2653
02:16:03,080 --> 02:16:05,160
Speaker 2: it's going to go back to his couch after a

2654
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 2: nice little run with a brown.

2655
02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:09,920
Speaker 1: This is still a savageable quarterback. Yeah.

2656
02:16:10,280 --> 02:16:13,680
Speaker 2: No, I mean, let's say they lose today, but tomorrow.

2657
02:16:13,720 --> 02:16:16,440
Speaker 2: But you know, he's competitive, he's playing as well as

2658
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 2: he did. Do you give Mason Rudolph an opportunity to

2659
02:16:19,800 --> 02:16:21,320
Speaker 2: be your starting quarterback next year?

2660
02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:26,000
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, why not? I well, if he

2661
02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:29,480
Speaker 1: plays well. Has Canny Pickett done anything to show you

2662
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:33,920
Speaker 1: that he is truly a franchise quarterback. Don't don't confuse.

2663
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Kenny Pickett deserves a job back either.

2664
02:16:37,280 --> 02:16:38,640
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you need to go and get

2665
02:16:38,640 --> 02:16:41,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback. No, you need to go. Neither of these

2666
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:44,160
Speaker 1: two guys are the answer. Mason Rudolph is a competent backup.

2667
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:46,240
Speaker 1: That's what he's proven to you over the years in

2668
02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:49,400
Speaker 1: the league. And if he is your plan going to

2669
02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:52,920
Speaker 1: next season, they might fire you just for that. I

2670
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:55,440
Speaker 1: mean that, that to me is ridiculous. No, you have

2671
02:16:55,520 --> 02:16:58,200
Speaker 1: to go. If you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and you have

2672
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:04,440
Speaker 1: been searching for your quarterback frankly from before Roethlisberger announced

2673
02:17:04,440 --> 02:17:09,640
Speaker 1: his retirement, and you decide that next season, Hey, we

2674
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:13,440
Speaker 1: really loved what we saw from Rudolph through the final

2675
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:17,359
Speaker 1: four or five weeks of the NFL season, including the postseason,

2676
02:17:17,520 --> 02:17:21,640
Speaker 1: so he's our guy. You'll have a mutiny amongst the fans.

2677
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:24,080
Speaker 1: They need to go into the draft, or they need

2678
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:27,240
Speaker 1: to go out in free agency or in trade and

2679
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:31,680
Speaker 1: find a quarterback who can actually stabilize this situation in Pittsburgh.

2680
02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:36,680
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is keeping this thing hemmed together with paper clips. Man,

2681
02:17:36,879 --> 02:17:39,280
Speaker 1: it's the seams are gonna bust, okay.

2682
02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:41,520
Speaker 2: And that's that's a point to be made as well,

2683
02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:46,800
Speaker 2: because the Steelers under Mike Tomlin early on were a

2684
02:17:46,840 --> 02:17:49,680
Speaker 2: team that got to multiple super Bowls.

2685
02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:53,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're a long ways away from their last super.

2686
02:17:53,640 --> 02:17:58,800
Speaker 2: Bowl appear correct. And if you're the Steeler organization and

2687
02:17:58,959 --> 02:18:01,840
Speaker 2: you've won six super bowl as they have over the years,

2688
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:05,640
Speaker 2: at some point, don't you have to look at the

2689
02:18:05,720 --> 02:18:10,520
Speaker 2: Tomlins situation saying or asking the question, is he the

2690
02:18:10,640 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 2: right guy that can get us back to the Super Bowl.

2691
02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:17,920
Speaker 1: I was speaking to a beat reporter in Pittsburgh and

2692
02:18:18,040 --> 02:18:20,480
Speaker 1: it was recently, was over the past month or so.

2693
02:18:20,640 --> 02:18:23,039
Speaker 1: And forgive me, I forget the name of the reporter

2694
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 1: I was speaking with, but he was very ardent defending

2695
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:29,760
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. He goes, you know, there's this national discussion

2696
02:18:29,800 --> 02:18:31,920
Speaker 1: that occurs, and he was like, and this is true

2697
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:34,560
Speaker 1: of any NFL market, He goes, but then there's a

2698
02:18:34,640 --> 02:18:38,119
Speaker 1: local conversation that occurs. He goes, I think the national

2699
02:18:38,200 --> 02:18:44,160
Speaker 1: conversation is much louder that concentrates on Mike Tomlin's playoff failures.

2700
02:18:44,480 --> 02:18:47,920
Speaker 1: But locally, the fan base is still pretty well bought

2701
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:51,440
Speaker 1: into Mike Tomlin. They're just aware that he needs more

2702
02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:54,680
Speaker 1: help at that one position and then things can maybe

2703
02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:57,760
Speaker 1: resume being as positive as they were for the Pittsburgh

2704
02:18:57,800 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 1: Steelers because he hasn't lost his step defend His defenses

2705
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:04,240
Speaker 1: are always good. He's always in close games for the

2706
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:06,720
Speaker 1: most part, and he wins the majority of them. That's

2707
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:09,400
Speaker 1: the reason why he's never had a losing season. However,

2708
02:19:10,280 --> 02:19:14,560
Speaker 1: over the last half decade, they have either had an underperforming,

2709
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:19,199
Speaker 1: aging veteran quarterback or young guys who cannot carry water

2710
02:19:19,520 --> 02:19:22,520
Speaker 1: at that position in this league. So that's going to

2711
02:19:22,600 --> 02:19:25,160
Speaker 1: be the next step. He will be judged by Mike

2712
02:19:25,240 --> 02:19:28,279
Speaker 1: Tomlin at the end of his time as the Pittsburgh

2713
02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 1: head coach harshly if he doesn't figure out his next quarterback,

2714
02:19:32,560 --> 02:19:34,640
Speaker 1: because as good as it's been for a while now,

2715
02:19:34,720 --> 02:19:36,960
Speaker 1: and as well as he's been able to stabilize it,

2716
02:19:37,480 --> 02:19:39,720
Speaker 1: if you don't have a quarterback, you cannot win in

2717
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 1: this league. That is a fact.

2718
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:44,480
Speaker 2: Now you have a court again, a coach that I

2719
02:19:44,640 --> 02:19:47,920
Speaker 2: believe has put together a Hall of fame resume this

2720
02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:52,400
Speaker 2: is his seventeenth season with the Steelers, never had a

2721
02:19:52,480 --> 02:19:56,960
Speaker 2: losing season. He had three eight and eight seasons. They've

2722
02:19:56,959 --> 02:20:00,400
Speaker 2: been in the playoffs all but six times of the

2723
02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:05,160
Speaker 2: seventeen years he's been into the postseason. However, they haven't

2724
02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:10,720
Speaker 2: won a playoff game in seven years a game in

2725
02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:16,000
Speaker 2: the postseason. So again, if you look at comparable situations,

2726
02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:17,760
Speaker 2: and there really is none. When you're talking about a

2727
02:20:17,800 --> 02:20:21,320
Speaker 2: Steelers organization that's had three coaches since nineteen sixty nine,

2728
02:20:21,879 --> 02:20:25,520
Speaker 2: most organizations would go, hey, thank you so much for

2729
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 2: everything you brought, but we need to make a change.

2730
02:20:28,520 --> 02:20:30,720
Speaker 2: That last Super Bowl by appearance was that loss of

2731
02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:33,199
Speaker 2: the Packers, and that was thirteen years ago.

2732
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:36,160
Speaker 1: Which brings us to tomorrow, where you have two teams

2733
02:20:36,240 --> 02:20:39,280
Speaker 1: that a month ago were looking like teams that could

2734
02:20:39,400 --> 02:20:41,880
Speaker 1: very easily be bounced out of the playoff conversation, and

2735
02:20:41,959 --> 02:20:45,039
Speaker 1: both found a way in the Bills clinching their division,

2736
02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:48,959
Speaker 1: the Steelers sneaking in with help as a wild card selection,

2737
02:20:49,560 --> 02:20:51,879
Speaker 1: and they face each other. Two teams, by the way,

2738
02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:55,640
Speaker 1: who both fired their offensive coordinators mid season, Ken Dorsey

2739
02:20:55,720 --> 02:20:59,480
Speaker 1: for the Bills and Matt Canada for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2740
02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:04,640
Speaker 1: They've both found ways in different ways to recover. Since then,

2741
02:21:05,160 --> 02:21:09,120
Speaker 1: the Bills, this offense led by Josh Allen and un

2742
02:21:09,200 --> 02:21:11,960
Speaker 1: quirking it a little bit more in the second half

2743
02:21:12,040 --> 02:21:15,000
Speaker 1: of the season. Really down the stretch, maybe the last

2744
02:21:15,160 --> 02:21:19,600
Speaker 1: third of the season has become what we're used to seeing,

2745
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:22,880
Speaker 1: an elite passer who win the games on the line,

2746
02:21:22,959 --> 02:21:24,520
Speaker 1: and you put the ball in his hands, he does

2747
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:27,000
Speaker 1: something special, whether it be on the ground or through

2748
02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:29,560
Speaker 1: the air. In the case of the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's

2749
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:32,080
Speaker 1: been a heavy reliance on the run game and a

2750
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:37,480
Speaker 1: heavy reliance on a standout dominant defense, and just enough

2751
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 1: out of their quarterback position and out of their passers

2752
02:21:40,600 --> 02:21:42,880
Speaker 1: like Mason Rudolph and can you Pickett throughout the majority

2753
02:21:42,920 --> 02:21:45,720
Speaker 1: of the season to get to keep the ball out

2754
02:21:45,760 --> 02:21:49,760
Speaker 1: of the hands of the defense and to do just

2755
02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:53,200
Speaker 1: enough to get wins. I've got the Bills by a million.

2756
02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean they're favored by nine and a half. They

2757
02:21:55,800 --> 02:21:57,640
Speaker 1: might beat him by twenty. I think this is the

2758
02:21:57,760 --> 02:22:01,360
Speaker 1: next blowout game that we see during the Super Wildcard round.

2759
02:22:01,480 --> 02:22:04,800
Speaker 2: Well, the deciding factor in this game, whether it's a

2760
02:22:04,879 --> 02:22:07,760
Speaker 2: game or not, is going to be the discipline of

2761
02:22:07,920 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. He threw eighteen interceptions this year. The three

2762
02:22:14,080 --> 02:22:20,800
Speaker 2: Steeler quarterbacks combine this year through nine interceptions. Now, they

2763
02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:22,680
Speaker 2: only threw thirteen touchdown passes.

2764
02:22:22,760 --> 02:22:23,080
Speaker 1: That's all.

2765
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:25,039
Speaker 2: Can you imagine a team in this day and age

2766
02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:28,680
Speaker 2: making the playoffs with thirteen touchdown passes as a team

2767
02:22:28,760 --> 02:22:31,400
Speaker 2: in seventeen games. But they did it because they only

2768
02:22:31,480 --> 02:22:34,680
Speaker 2: threw nine interceptions. The Steelers do not turn the ball over.

2769
02:22:35,320 --> 02:22:38,520
Speaker 2: That's what they tell their quarterbacks. Don't screw this thing up.

2770
02:22:38,879 --> 02:22:42,760
Speaker 2: Big problem obviously is no TJ. Watt right and without TJ. Watt.

2771
02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:46,120
Speaker 2: But again, if the Bills are going to make a

2772
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:50,160
Speaker 2: game of this by not playing well, it's because Josh

2773
02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:53,680
Speaker 2: Allen gets crazy again and starts throwing picks. Look, which

2774
02:22:53,720 --> 02:22:55,040
Speaker 2: he's certainly capable of doing.

2775
02:22:55,160 --> 02:22:58,280
Speaker 1: He's thrown a lot of interceptions and through the last

2776
02:22:58,800 --> 02:23:02,360
Speaker 1: count them, twelve games, no thirteen games he played this season.

2777
02:23:02,440 --> 02:23:05,240
Speaker 1: There was only one single game and it was against

2778
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:08,720
Speaker 1: Dallas when they hosted them about four weeks ago where

2779
02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:11,199
Speaker 1: he didn't throw a pick. Other than that, he's thrown

2780
02:23:11,240 --> 02:23:14,120
Speaker 1: a pick at least one in every single game, and

2781
02:23:14,240 --> 02:23:17,400
Speaker 1: he had two multiple pick games. So I'm with you,

2782
02:23:17,720 --> 02:23:19,600
Speaker 1: he's got to be more careful with the football, and

2783
02:23:19,720 --> 02:23:22,800
Speaker 1: he hasn't been this season. However, on the other side

2784
02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:25,000
Speaker 1: of that, he's tied for fifth in the league with

2785
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:28,720
Speaker 1: twenty nine touchdowns thrown. Well, So, for as you got

2786
02:23:28,840 --> 02:23:31,720
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, and like you did with Brett Favre

2787
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:34,520
Speaker 1: the gun Slinger, you took the good with the bad,

2788
02:23:34,600 --> 02:23:36,960
Speaker 1: because guess what, the good outshine the bad.

2789
02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:40,520
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph and his three starts three to zero, completing

2790
02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:43,680
Speaker 2: seventy four percent of his passes, three touchdowns, no picks.

2791
02:23:43,720 --> 02:23:45,960
Speaker 2: That's a passer rating of one to eighteen. If he

2792
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,840
Speaker 2: comes anywhere close to that, the Steelers will be in

2793
02:23:48,879 --> 02:23:51,240
Speaker 2: this game. Let's find out what's trending right now. She

2794
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:55,040
Speaker 2: has done an unbelievable job keeping us updated and all

2795
02:23:55,240 --> 02:23:56,520
Speaker 2: the busy day, with all.

2796
02:23:56,400 --> 02:23:59,200
Speaker 7: The games going on, I can barely keep up.

2797
02:23:59,320 --> 02:24:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been spinning, spinning and giving us all the

2798
02:24:02,879 --> 02:24:04,400
Speaker 2: updated stats and everything.

2799
02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:04,880
Speaker 8: Years.

2800
02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:08,640
Speaker 6: Yes, such a busy day. Well, fellas. The Steelers apparently

2801
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:10,360
Speaker 6: have officially landed in Buffalo.

2802
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:11,920
Speaker 1: You guys, so they're there.

2803
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:17,000
Speaker 9: Yes, the Eagle has landed, not the Philadelphia Eagles, but

2804
02:24:17,120 --> 02:24:20,560
Speaker 9: the Eagle has landed Steelers in Buffalo, So hopefully This

2805
02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:24,119
Speaker 9: game will go on tomorrow as right now is planned.

2806
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:26,959
Speaker 7: We do have two games coming up in the NFL.

2807
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:29,480
Speaker 6: We're very close to the first one, starting in Dallas

2808
02:24:29,640 --> 02:24:30,760
Speaker 6: Cowboys Packers.

2809
02:24:31,000 --> 02:24:32,640
Speaker 7: Packers will have wide receiver.

2810
02:24:32,480 --> 02:24:36,520
Speaker 6: Christian Watson and cornerback Jaire Alexander. Later today it's the

2811
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:40,040
Speaker 6: Lions and the Rams. Detroit is expected to have Sam Laporta.

2812
02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:42,920
Speaker 6: He is trending in the right direction after hyper extending

2813
02:24:43,240 --> 02:24:46,160
Speaker 6: that knee. One game currently going on in the NBA,

2814
02:24:46,320 --> 02:24:49,199
Speaker 6: the Pacers are playing without Tyrese Halliburn, and they're currently

2815
02:24:49,240 --> 02:24:51,720
Speaker 6: beating the Nuggets forty to thirty eight with about five

2816
02:24:51,760 --> 02:24:54,600
Speaker 6: minutes to go in the first half. Still five minutes

2817
02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:56,640
Speaker 6: to go on the first half. In Nikola, Jokic is

2818
02:24:56,720 --> 02:24:59,440
Speaker 6: already so close to a triple double. He has six points,

2819
02:24:59,520 --> 02:25:04,240
Speaker 6: eight rebound, seven assists. Just unstoppable. In college hoops, there

2820
02:25:04,360 --> 02:25:07,680
Speaker 6: was one upset this morning, Maryland upset number ten Illinois

2821
02:25:07,879 --> 02:25:11,160
Speaker 6: coming out on top seventy six to sixty seven. In

2822
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:14,200
Speaker 6: college football, two more players have officially declared for the

2823
02:25:14,360 --> 02:25:17,640
Speaker 6: NFL Draft, both from Michigan. It's their quarterback JJ McCarthy

2824
02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:21,640
Speaker 6: and running back Blake Korum, and the Australian Open officially started,

2825
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:24,560
Speaker 6: so Novak Djokovic won his first round match in four sets,

2826
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:28,000
Speaker 6: and American Francis Tioffo also won his first round match

2827
02:25:28,200 --> 02:25:29,320
Speaker 6: in four sets.

2828
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:30,680
Speaker 7: Back to you guys, just.

2829
02:25:30,760 --> 02:25:36,560
Speaker 1: So busy, monty tremendous today. What it's over by the way,

2830
02:25:36,680 --> 02:25:40,080
Speaker 1: look at the plane coming in, Like, how did Pittsburgh

2831
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:41,000
Speaker 1: land in this place?

2832
02:25:41,120 --> 02:25:45,160
Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, that's one of those landings where it is

2833
02:25:45,320 --> 02:25:49,560
Speaker 2: just white. Is there even a landing strip there? No?

2834
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean obviously they cleared the landing strip there, but

2835
02:25:53,280 --> 02:25:57,880
Speaker 1: it's just very funny. Depending on on what what account

2836
02:25:57,959 --> 02:26:01,320
Speaker 1: you're looking at, it either looks like it is the

2837
02:26:01,640 --> 02:26:04,080
Speaker 1: end of the world in Buffalo, it's a northfol like

2838
02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:04,960
Speaker 1: it's just gray.

2839
02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:08,560
Speaker 2: Well you can imagine you're down you see nothing for

2840
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:10,760
Speaker 2: this picture here seeing it just looks like there's some

2841
02:26:10,879 --> 02:26:13,720
Speaker 2: snow on the ground and it's a beautiful day otherwise.

2842
02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:16,000
Speaker 1: Right, So I don't know from the air coming down,

2843
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:18,600
Speaker 1: you know how this looks All you see is white? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

2844
02:26:18,760 --> 02:26:20,400
Speaker 1: you don't see an airport.

2845
02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:23,080
Speaker 2: You don't even at a certain height, you don't see

2846
02:26:23,080 --> 02:26:26,360
Speaker 2: a landing strip or anything. But we're going down the

2847
02:26:26,440 --> 02:26:28,600
Speaker 2: other game by the way, Montsey, thank you very much.

2848
02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:31,680
Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports read Zone Radio. She's

2849
02:26:31,879 --> 02:26:35,120
Speaker 2: doing a tremendous shopping that. The other game tomorrow is

2850
02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:37,640
Speaker 2: the only gain that was originally scheduled for Monday, and

2851
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:41,119
Speaker 2: that is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers hosting the defending NFC

2852
02:26:42,400 --> 02:26:47,240
Speaker 2: champion Philadelphia Eagles. Baker Mayfield started all seventeen games this year,

2853
02:26:48,040 --> 02:26:51,119
Speaker 2: completing sixty four percent of his passes. He had over

2854
02:26:51,320 --> 02:26:56,320
Speaker 2: four thousand yards passing, twenty eight touchdowns and ten interceptions.

2855
02:26:58,879 --> 02:27:00,400
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of can it is for

2856
02:27:00,560 --> 02:27:03,760
Speaker 1: comeback player of the Year? Yeah, Joe Flacco, Joe fla

2857
02:27:03,920 --> 02:27:07,080
Speaker 1: even though it looked like it looked like Joe Flacco

2858
02:27:07,320 --> 02:27:10,680
Speaker 1: had like like an elks Den meeting that he needed

2859
02:27:10,760 --> 02:27:13,000
Speaker 1: to get to. So he just drew a couple of

2860
02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:15,840
Speaker 1: late interceptions. The way. The second one was unbelievable. And

2861
02:27:15,959 --> 02:27:16,560
Speaker 1: explain to me this.

2862
02:27:16,959 --> 02:27:20,840
Speaker 2: It's thirty one to fourteen Correxans and we're still in

2863
02:27:20,879 --> 02:27:23,920
Speaker 2: the third quarter, and you have a fourth and two

2864
02:27:25,360 --> 02:27:29,000
Speaker 2: at your own thirty five yard line, and by the way,

2865
02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:31,560
Speaker 2: you have one of the best defenses in the league,

2866
02:27:31,600 --> 02:27:35,160
Speaker 2: supposedly the Cleveland Browns. You decide to go for it,

2867
02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:40,480
Speaker 2: and Joe Flacco throws a pick six that you talk

2868
02:27:40,480 --> 02:27:43,840
Speaker 2: about room service. I mean, I mean he I mean

2869
02:27:43,879 --> 02:27:47,160
Speaker 2: it was literally a walk in pick six. Well the

2870
02:27:47,240 --> 02:27:49,760
Speaker 2: first one, so that was a long one eighty two.

2871
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:52,160
Speaker 1: Yards well and alsome well that one he got hit.

2872
02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:54,520
Speaker 1: He got hit as he threw. But like one of

2873
02:27:54,560 --> 02:27:58,080
Speaker 1: the things about veteran quarterbacks that typically you could say

2874
02:27:58,240 --> 02:28:01,360
Speaker 1: is like, you know, but you them because they're not

2875
02:28:01,520 --> 02:28:03,520
Speaker 1: going to make the dumb mistake, like they're gonna know

2876
02:28:03,640 --> 02:28:06,680
Speaker 1: the things that are like when did Joe fla Like

2877
02:28:06,840 --> 02:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco should have never let go of that foot. Yeah,

2878
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:10,280
Speaker 1: but I mean it was a.

2879
02:28:10,320 --> 02:28:12,320
Speaker 2: Pass way down the field. You don't expect the guy

2880
02:28:12,400 --> 02:28:14,000
Speaker 2: to go eighty two yards for a time. No, No,

2881
02:28:14,120 --> 02:28:18,400
Speaker 2: I know the second one literally interception though, yeah, the

2882
02:28:18,440 --> 02:28:20,720
Speaker 2: second one. Second one was sort of like, I don't

2883
02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:22,960
Speaker 2: know why you're deciding to go for this. It's a

2884
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:24,960
Speaker 2: bad idea. I'm going to show you why it's a

2885
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:28,440
Speaker 2: bad idea. Yeah, he's punishing Kevin Stone because he literally

2886
02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:30,680
Speaker 2: threw it right to it was a walk in pick

2887
02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:34,120
Speaker 2: sick listen, Okay, but I'm looking at Baker Mayfield. I

2888
02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:37,160
Speaker 2: mean you could say Matthew Stafford is a prime candidate

2889
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:40,480
Speaker 2: for comeback Player of the Year who had some injuries

2890
02:28:40,520 --> 02:28:41,040
Speaker 2: a year ago.

2891
02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:46,000
Speaker 1: This is a hard game for me to read tomorrow.

2892
02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean it really is.

2893
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Eagles Tampa Bay buck I mean, even with

2894
02:28:50,120 --> 02:28:52,720
Speaker 2: the Eagles injuries and AJ Brown's out now, I mean

2895
02:28:52,760 --> 02:28:56,000
Speaker 2: they've had all kinds of injuries, there's still a better

2896
02:28:56,080 --> 02:28:57,840
Speaker 2: team than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

2897
02:28:58,320 --> 02:28:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2898
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the Eagles should win this game, even though

2899
02:29:03,920 --> 02:29:06,880
Speaker 2: the game is in Tampa. I've got do you really

2900
02:29:06,959 --> 02:29:09,920
Speaker 2: have any gut feeling. I don't have any gut feeling

2901
02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:10,440
Speaker 2: on this game.

2902
02:29:10,520 --> 02:29:12,360
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't have a lot of faith

2903
02:29:12,600 --> 02:29:16,320
Speaker 1: in the Eagles. I just don't. I don't like the

2904
02:29:16,480 --> 02:29:19,840
Speaker 1: mood that you get when you hear that. These guys

2905
02:29:19,959 --> 02:29:24,080
Speaker 1: just sound exhausted. They've sounded exhausted all season long. It

2906
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:26,720
Speaker 1: sounds like they're searching for answers. They can't find any,

2907
02:29:26,800 --> 02:29:29,760
Speaker 1: even when this team was ten to one. It's like,

2908
02:29:29,959 --> 02:29:33,439
Speaker 1: if you listen to Hurtz talk or Kelsey on his podcast,

2909
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:36,200
Speaker 1: or any of the guys who have been important, you know,

2910
02:29:36,280 --> 02:29:39,240
Speaker 1: across the course of this season, it's really felt like

2911
02:29:39,320 --> 02:29:41,680
Speaker 1: because they've had to answer the questions all season long,

2912
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:44,920
Speaker 1: and the question was what's wrong, even when they were

2913
02:29:44,959 --> 02:29:48,160
Speaker 1: a double digit team with one loss, what's wrong? What's wrong?

2914
02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:51,960
Speaker 1: What's wrong? And nobody could put their finger on it. Meanwhile,

2915
02:29:52,120 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, this has been a delightful surprise. Todd Bowles

2916
02:29:57,120 --> 02:30:00,240
Speaker 1: has done a masterful job with this defense. I think

2917
02:30:00,320 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 1: he's seated control of the offense completely and and Tampa

2918
02:30:04,840 --> 02:30:09,520
Speaker 1: Bay has been It really has been an overwhelming positive experience.

2919
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:11,800
Speaker 1: And they get to host the Eagles who have all

2920
02:30:11,840 --> 02:30:14,600
Speaker 1: these problems and all these injuries. You just mentioned Devonte

2921
02:30:14,720 --> 02:30:17,320
Speaker 1: Smith with the ankle too. Don't forget that. Like, this

2922
02:30:17,560 --> 02:30:21,120
Speaker 1: is a banged up Eagle squad who have looked exhausted

2923
02:30:21,200 --> 02:30:24,000
Speaker 1: all season long, even though they're favored on the road here,

2924
02:30:24,320 --> 02:30:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't like that number. I mean, I would take

2925
02:30:27,080 --> 02:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and the points all day long.

2926
02:30:28,840 --> 02:30:31,279
Speaker 2: Well, one thing that's worked for Tampa Bay is their health.

2927
02:30:33,320 --> 02:30:37,160
Speaker 2: Your two wide receivers, Godwin and Evans have started every game.

2928
02:30:37,240 --> 02:30:39,520
Speaker 2: You're tight end started every game. Your number one running

2929
02:30:39,520 --> 02:30:42,600
Speaker 2: back started every game. Your quarterback started every game. Yeah yeah,

2930
02:30:42,959 --> 02:30:43,640
Speaker 2: zero missus.

2931
02:30:43,959 --> 02:30:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. So and that held them together.

2932
02:30:46,120 --> 02:30:48,879
Speaker 2: Remember again, this was a Tampa team that was sitting

2933
02:30:49,040 --> 02:30:52,080
Speaker 2: at four and seven and they ended up winning five

2934
02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:54,119
Speaker 2: of their last six to win their division of all

2935
02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:54,680
Speaker 2: the time.

2936
02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:58,160
Speaker 1: And really the player who is questionable right now heading

2937
02:30:58,240 --> 02:31:01,560
Speaker 1: into the game with on Tampa beside Baker Mayfield. Like,

2938
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:05,000
Speaker 1: if there's anybody on Tampa's roster offensively, especially who I

2939
02:31:05,040 --> 02:31:07,080
Speaker 1: would trust going to the game a little banged up

2940
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:09,640
Speaker 1: and end up going out there and having a game,

2941
02:31:10,040 --> 02:31:12,720
Speaker 1: it's Baker Mayfield. He's a tough dude. You know, say

2942
02:31:12,800 --> 02:31:15,080
Speaker 1: what you will about Baker, but when he was in

2943
02:31:15,160 --> 02:31:18,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland when he had that non throwing shoulder injury that

2944
02:31:18,440 --> 02:31:21,520
Speaker 1: was really bugging him. I mean, the guy played some

2945
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:25,640
Speaker 1: good football through that. He's he's been through some wars man,

2946
02:31:25,720 --> 02:31:28,720
Speaker 1: he's been battle tested. I'm not saying he's a great quarterback,

2947
02:31:29,040 --> 02:31:32,520
Speaker 1: but he's a quarterback who's won in the postseason. You

2948
02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:35,320
Speaker 1: remember when Pittsburgh came to Cleveland all those years ago,

2949
02:31:35,520 --> 02:31:38,039
Speaker 1: I was a boat raced. Absolutely. They beat the doors

2950
02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:39,960
Speaker 1: off of Pittsburgh and a lot of people. It was

2951
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:42,039
Speaker 1: a twenty eight nephew in the first quarter. It's crazy.

2952
02:31:42,200 --> 02:31:45,880
Speaker 1: I get a very similar sense to this game. I

2953
02:31:45,959 --> 02:31:49,160
Speaker 1: think the Philadelphia Eagles are on a death march down

2954
02:31:49,240 --> 02:31:50,600
Speaker 1: there to Tampa Bay.

2955
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:53,000
Speaker 2: And by the way, remember the next game they played

2956
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:55,360
Speaker 2: at Kansas City. They lost by five. Yeah, no, I

2957
02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:59,640
Speaker 2: mean it was It was a good showing. Baker Man playoff.

2958
02:31:59,680 --> 02:32:02,880
Speaker 2: Baker look out. I'm telling you there's something special about

2959
02:32:02,920 --> 02:32:05,560
Speaker 2: that guy. He shows up in big moments.

2960
02:32:06,160 --> 02:32:06,480
Speaker 1: All right.

2961
02:32:06,520 --> 02:32:08,560
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're actually gonna be

2962
02:32:08,680 --> 02:32:10,879
Speaker 2: talking about a real game going.

2963
02:32:10,720 --> 02:32:14,520
Speaker 1: On today in real time.

2964
02:32:17,200 --> 02:32:20,000
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. Thank you Steve

2965
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:23,840
Speaker 2: Harbin and Rich Harburger. Fox Sports a Red Zone Radio.

2966
02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:26,440
Speaker 2: We are live from the tirag dot Com studios. Want

2967
02:32:26,480 --> 02:32:31,440
Speaker 2: to thank the crew today. Moncey Belanas of course doing it,

2968
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:35,080
Speaker 2: doing it. Hey, do you remember last week, Moncey, can

2969
02:32:35,120 --> 02:32:37,160
Speaker 2: you open up for mic for a second here? You,

2970
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:40,200
Speaker 2: of course were gracious enough to bring the Taco bell

2971
02:32:40,280 --> 02:32:44,600
Speaker 2: breakfast for reading. And remember the week before I went

2972
02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:47,080
Speaker 2: out and got the pizzas, and Rich was talking a

2973
02:32:47,120 --> 02:32:49,640
Speaker 2: big game last week. What I say you talked about

2974
02:32:49,760 --> 02:32:53,360
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you wanted to add something. Oh yeah, thanks, yeah, happened.

2975
02:32:53,360 --> 02:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Well it did bring in salt and Pepper's pistachios. They

2976
02:32:56,200 --> 02:32:56,920
Speaker 2: were delicious.

2977
02:32:56,959 --> 02:33:02,480
Speaker 1: But you wait, he did for himself. The majority of that.

2978
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:04,840
Speaker 1: I did share spelling with a lot of food in

2979
02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:07,200
Speaker 1: because that's the way he is. Oh you got it. Yeah,

2980
02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's four hour broadcasts. I would see

2981
02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:12,560
Speaker 1: well and I would just say, like, you know, you

2982
02:33:12,640 --> 02:33:15,520
Speaker 1: got to you gotta keep the engine going, like you

2983
02:33:15,560 --> 02:33:19,600
Speaker 1: gotta stoke the flame to fuel it. Thank you, Belmont.

2984
02:33:19,879 --> 02:33:21,680
Speaker 1: Next time, maybe yeah, yeah.

2985
02:33:21,879 --> 02:33:25,000
Speaker 2: Chris Chris feeling good about his Lions. Today's made it

2986
02:33:25,040 --> 02:33:27,480
Speaker 2: clearly was spelled it all out. While the Lions will

2987
02:33:27,520 --> 02:33:31,600
Speaker 2: beat the Rams at home today, he said that he says,

2988
02:33:31,640 --> 02:33:33,840
Speaker 2: I feel really good about them against the Cowboys if

2989
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:35,120
Speaker 2: they play in Dallas next week.

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02:33:35,240 --> 02:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Right. I do think that this first hurdle for the

2991
02:33:38,160 --> 02:33:42,680
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions is the toughest until the NFC Championship. I

2992
02:33:42,760 --> 02:33:45,440
Speaker 1: think it's like I think Rex Ryan was on another show.

2993
02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:48,000
Speaker 1: He said it like this Lions team is going to

2994
02:33:48,040 --> 02:33:50,720
Speaker 1: feel really disrespected by everyone who picked the Rams if

2995
02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:51,720
Speaker 1: they come out of this game.

2996
02:33:51,600 --> 02:33:53,920
Speaker 2: And with a win, all right, you're gonna feel gloating

2997
02:33:54,160 --> 02:33:56,200
Speaker 2: next week if the Lions do win, in advance a

2998
02:33:56,280 --> 02:33:58,959
Speaker 2: little and then there's a guy who's already made up

2999
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:01,640
Speaker 2: his mind on his coat speaking of Eagles fan bow

3000
02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:05,400
Speaker 2: bents and you know, bo, if the Eagles win today

3001
02:34:06,280 --> 02:34:08,879
Speaker 2: and lose next week, is it enough to save Nick

3002
02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:14,440
Speaker 2: Sirianni's job or is there a toxic fume coming out

3003
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:16,920
Speaker 2: of that Eagles locker room these days?

3004
02:34:17,000 --> 02:34:18,840
Speaker 8: I think we've all seen the way Eagles win. The

3005
02:34:18,879 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 8: Eagles win games this year, So if they do somehow

3006
02:34:20,840 --> 02:34:23,119
Speaker 8: win tomorrow, I think there will still be a little

3007
02:34:23,160 --> 02:34:25,440
Speaker 8: ammunition to move on if you choose to, Especially with

3008
02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:28,400
Speaker 8: a name like Bill Belichick out there, I think that's

3009
02:34:28,520 --> 02:34:30,280
Speaker 8: kind of a if you're on the if you're on

3010
02:34:30,320 --> 02:34:31,640
Speaker 8: the line of firing m you might as well do

3011
02:34:31,640 --> 02:34:33,000
Speaker 8: it if you can get that guy well.

3012
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of a line of fire right now, the Green

3013
02:34:34,920 --> 02:34:37,800
Speaker 2: Bay Packers opening drive against the Cowboys has been nothing

3014
02:34:37,879 --> 02:34:41,600
Speaker 2: but success. Jordan Love three for three already for thirty

3015
02:34:41,680 --> 02:34:43,640
Speaker 2: seven yards on this opening drive.

3016
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:46,680
Speaker 1: Found some tight ends. You just found Luke Musgrave down

3017
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:50,320
Speaker 1: the left sideline. He's uh, look, he's distributing the football well.

3018
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:53,080
Speaker 1: And Aaron Jones looks to be one hundred percent healthy.

3019
02:34:53,080 --> 02:34:55,640
Speaker 1: He's toted the rock well so far in this opening drive.

3020
02:34:55,720 --> 02:34:57,160
Speaker 1: They're down in the low red zone here.

3021
02:34:57,320 --> 02:34:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just going right down the field against the

3022
02:34:59,480 --> 02:35:06,080
Speaker 2: Cowboy if you missed it earlier. Again, rich is thrown

3023
02:35:06,120 --> 02:35:09,040
Speaker 2: out a theory that I'm one hundred percent behind. If

3024
02:35:09,080 --> 02:35:12,680
Speaker 2: the only reason that Jerry Jones hired Mike McCarthy is

3025
02:35:12,760 --> 02:35:16,920
Speaker 2: that he actually won a Super Bowl, imagine the chance

3026
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:19,040
Speaker 2: of hiring a guy that's won six Super Bowls.

3027
02:35:19,120 --> 02:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Well, I just if the Dallas Cowboys make an exit

3028
02:35:23,600 --> 02:35:26,760
Speaker 1: in the wild card or the divisional round, or if

3029
02:35:26,959 --> 02:35:30,480
Speaker 1: any of their games, including the NFC Championship Game, is

3030
02:35:30,520 --> 02:35:35,520
Speaker 1: a blowout loss. It just if Bill Belichick's available, and

3031
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:38,480
Speaker 1: like you described that, he is available. Well, excuse me,

3032
02:35:38,879 --> 02:35:41,320
Speaker 1: I know he's available, But I'm saying, if you're Jerry

3033
02:35:41,400 --> 02:35:44,760
Speaker 1: Jones and you have Bill Belichick available, and you're looking

3034
02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:47,560
Speaker 1: at your postseason resume with Mike McCarthy and thinking, like,

3035
02:35:47,680 --> 02:35:50,400
Speaker 1: how can we get over that hump? Who is available

3036
02:35:50,720 --> 02:35:54,039
Speaker 1: that has had a lot of experience in the postseason?

3037
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:56,600
Speaker 1: Who you know? It doesn't I mean, look, money is

3038
02:35:56,640 --> 02:35:59,360
Speaker 1: no object. I'll pay someone any amount. I just need

3039
02:35:59,440 --> 02:36:02,400
Speaker 1: a guy who can handle the rigors of the postseason.

3040
02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Who could it be? It's gonna be Belichick?

3041
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:07,080
Speaker 3: It just to me.

3042
02:36:07,240 --> 02:36:11,880
Speaker 1: The math The math does math? Yeah, the math makes sense.

3043
02:36:12,120 --> 02:36:14,880
Speaker 2: And again going back to the hiring of Mike McCarthy,

3044
02:36:14,920 --> 02:36:16,080
Speaker 2: I've never been to Mike McCarthy.

3045
02:36:16,480 --> 02:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Well, you mean, think about this.

3046
02:36:17,720 --> 02:36:20,600
Speaker 2: He went to one Super Bowl despite the fact that

3047
02:36:20,680 --> 02:36:23,040
Speaker 2: he had Aaron Rodgers as a quarterback for a decade.

3048
02:36:23,080 --> 02:36:23,760
Speaker 1: All right, here we go.

3049
02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:27,920
Speaker 2: It is a third and five right now for the Packers.

3050
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:30,240
Speaker 2: They are at the Dallas six yard line.

3051
02:36:30,360 --> 02:36:32,920
Speaker 1: Blaming Dallas for being off sides, but you did see

3052
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:35,520
Speaker 1: movement on the Packers side of the football, so we'll

3053
02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:35,760
Speaker 1: see you.

3054
02:36:35,840 --> 02:36:38,480
Speaker 2: They're calling off side on the Cowboys. So that's a

3055
02:36:38,600 --> 02:36:41,160
Speaker 2: five yard penalty. Yeah, that'll be uh, that'll be third

3056
02:36:41,240 --> 02:36:41,520
Speaker 2: and one.

3057
02:36:42,320 --> 02:36:44,360
Speaker 1: That'll be a couple of free ones there and the

3058
02:36:44,440 --> 02:36:47,280
Speaker 1: first down as well for the Packers. So they're gonna

3059
02:36:47,320 --> 02:36:51,880
Speaker 1: have a first, first and goal. Did that be the

3060
02:36:51,959 --> 02:36:53,360
Speaker 1: first down? Third and one?

3061
02:36:53,879 --> 02:36:53,920
Speaker 4: No?

3062
02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:57,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that is a first down. Yeah no,

3063
02:36:58,000 --> 02:36:59,720
Speaker 1: it's third and two, third and two. Oh, you're right,

3064
02:36:59,760 --> 02:37:01,760
Speaker 1: it is, and it isn't a fresh set of downs. Now,

3065
02:37:01,840 --> 02:37:06,640
Speaker 1: third and two at the Dallas two y or three

3066
02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:08,400
Speaker 1: yard line. All right, here we go. Let's see what

3067
02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:09,320
Speaker 1: they do right now.

3068
02:37:09,480 --> 02:37:12,760
Speaker 2: The Packers scoring first in this game, and what figures

3069
02:37:12,800 --> 02:37:15,039
Speaker 2: to be a shootout would be a huge plus, and they.

3070
02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Have a totch down Green Bay Packers.

3071
02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones rights are the middle of that Cowboys line,

3072
02:37:21,640 --> 02:37:24,600
Speaker 2: and that doesn't bode well for the Cowboys. The Packers

3073
02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:27,000
Speaker 2: are what we thought they were going into this game,

3074
02:37:27,080 --> 02:37:29,040
Speaker 2: a team that is playing well offensively.

3075
02:37:29,200 --> 02:37:31,680
Speaker 1: What I said to you, Steve, was the way that

3076
02:37:31,800 --> 02:37:34,959
Speaker 1: the Packers are going to win this game is twofold.

3077
02:37:35,040 --> 02:37:37,320
Speaker 1: Either they score in bunches, and I mean scoring this

3078
02:37:37,480 --> 02:37:40,480
Speaker 1: early your opening drive, it bodes well for that strategy,

3079
02:37:40,560 --> 02:37:44,000
Speaker 1: but also to possess the football. This was a nice drive.

3080
02:37:44,120 --> 02:37:46,920
Speaker 1: They said. They held onto the football for half the

3081
02:37:47,040 --> 02:37:50,480
Speaker 1: first quarter, which means that keeps that red hot Dallas offense,

3082
02:37:50,600 --> 02:37:53,280
Speaker 1: especially at Jerry's World, off the field. You know, if

3083
02:37:53,320 --> 02:37:56,720
Speaker 1: you can limit each quarter to only a possession or

3084
02:37:56,760 --> 02:37:59,520
Speaker 1: two by the Dallas Cowboys, well you're gonna win this

3085
02:37:59,600 --> 02:38:02,279
Speaker 1: football game as long as you keep pace with them offensively,

3086
02:38:02,320 --> 02:38:02,640
Speaker 1: all right.

3087
02:38:02,680 --> 02:38:05,720
Speaker 2: Jordan Love on that opening drive for four forty two yards,

3088
02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:08,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones twenty five yards on the ground. They ran

3089
02:38:08,640 --> 02:38:12,840
Speaker 2: the ball effectively, the pass the ball effectively. I'm not surprised.

3090
02:38:12,879 --> 02:38:13,959
Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier.

3091
02:38:14,040 --> 02:38:16,400
Speaker 2: This figure is to be a shootout, and now the

3092
02:38:16,560 --> 02:38:21,160
Speaker 2: question is can Dak Prescott avoid a meltdown well? And

3093
02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:24,360
Speaker 2: where he's forcing things. If you're in a shootout, sometimes

3094
02:38:24,440 --> 02:38:27,240
Speaker 2: you feel compelled to try to make something happen because

3095
02:38:27,440 --> 02:38:28,800
Speaker 2: but they're going to keep scoring.

3096
02:38:28,840 --> 02:38:32,360
Speaker 1: We got to keep scoring. He's typically he's typically not

3097
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:35,240
Speaker 1: that guy. And in the postseason, I don't think I

3098
02:38:35,320 --> 02:38:38,080
Speaker 1: don't think he's been guilty of having games where he's

3099
02:38:38,120 --> 02:38:41,280
Speaker 1: thrown a ton of picks. So well, he's two and

3100
02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:42,880
Speaker 1: four in the press season. Let me get a look

3101
02:38:42,920 --> 02:38:45,920
Speaker 1: at his numbers here on the postseasoneah his postseason record.

3102
02:38:45,959 --> 02:38:49,480
Speaker 1: He's he's got a QB rating of ninety two point three. Overall,

3103
02:38:49,520 --> 02:38:52,000
Speaker 1: he's got eleven touchdowns and five interceptions in the six

3104
02:38:52,120 --> 02:38:55,000
Speaker 1: games he's played in his career. Dak Prescott is a

3105
02:38:55,200 --> 02:38:58,080
Speaker 1: good postseason quarterback. It is a misnomer because of his

3106
02:38:58,240 --> 02:39:01,680
Speaker 1: record that people get all worked up like, oh, he's

3107
02:39:01,720 --> 02:39:04,280
Speaker 1: two and four in the postseason, lousy postseason quarterback. No,

3108
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:08,879
Speaker 1: he's a good performer. There have been some awful extenuating

3109
02:39:08,920 --> 02:39:12,480
Speaker 1: circumstances or better play from the other team that's led

3110
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:16,560
Speaker 1: to losses or failures on the defensive end or head

3111
02:39:16,600 --> 02:39:20,000
Speaker 1: coaching decision making. And he has had one stinker, so

3112
02:39:20,680 --> 02:39:23,119
Speaker 1: that amounts to a lot in terms of the record.

3113
02:39:23,240 --> 02:39:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked about his first ever playoff game

3114
02:39:25,800 --> 02:39:28,560
Speaker 2: when then they were one seed going against ironically Mike

3115
02:39:28,640 --> 02:39:31,320
Speaker 2: McCarthy and the Packers. They lose that game in a

3116
02:39:31,320 --> 02:39:34,280
Speaker 2: shootout thirty four to thirty one. He threw for three

3117
02:39:34,360 --> 02:39:36,760
Speaker 2: hundred two yards, three touchdowns, and one pick in that game.

3118
02:39:37,240 --> 02:39:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's already a highlight for that game. I mean,

3119
02:39:39,400 --> 02:39:45,280
Speaker 1: it's really good. I feel like we're already there. I

3120
02:39:45,560 --> 02:39:47,520
Speaker 1: like this. The fact that the Packers scored first, though,

3121
02:39:47,640 --> 02:39:50,000
Speaker 1: I that tells me we're going to see a game. Look,

3122
02:39:50,040 --> 02:39:53,560
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys were favored by a lot in this one,

3123
02:39:53,760 --> 02:39:56,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, I agree with you. All I'm rooting for

3124
02:39:56,720 --> 02:39:59,600
Speaker 1: today is that Green Bay puts up a better fight

3125
02:40:00,080 --> 02:40:02,280
Speaker 1: then the Browns did in the second half of that game,

3126
02:40:02,400 --> 02:40:06,000
Speaker 1: especially and better than the Miami Dolphins. Ko wanted to

3127
02:40:06,040 --> 02:40:09,080
Speaker 1: get back to the couch fly He missed his kids.

3128
02:40:10,120 --> 02:40:12,200
Speaker 1: You know that second pick six was one for the

3129
02:40:12,400 --> 02:40:13,880
Speaker 1: brown controlled a major tongue.

3130
02:40:13,959 --> 02:40:16,240
Speaker 2: He wanted back from your own thirty four yard line.

3131
02:40:16,280 --> 02:40:17,960
Speaker 1: He goes, what are you doing. Where are we doing

3132
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:19,720
Speaker 1: this bad idea? I'll show you why.

3133
02:40:20,120 --> 02:40:23,320
Speaker 2: All right, everyone, continue on your coverage of the National

3134
02:40:23,360 --> 02:40:24,039
Speaker 2: Football League.

3135
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