1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome to Big Fish, Small Pod. I'm Andrew Wardahl. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Today is June twenty ninth, Marlin's last night faced off 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: against the Saint Louis Cardinals, second game of their series 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, the third being tonight seven forty five 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Eastern time in Missouri. The Cardinals never really follow that 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: like expected sort of like development cycle that teams go through. 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean, to my eye, what they do is intelligently 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: invest in good baseball consistently, just like putting that like 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: top of the line in Saint Louis, along with just 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: like a key like pitching nexus sort of like Yadier 11 00:00:52,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Molina Adam Lean right, that like brain trust of veteran 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: in pitching catching that can help out like with any 13 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: sort of pitch that comes up. Like there's not something 14 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: that like Yadi and Rolanna Molina hasn't seen that they 15 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: can't deal with. It's not like someone like Braxton Garrett 16 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: comes up like a curveballer who like has to like 17 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: come up and like establish himself, like coming up to 18 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: a Saint Louis sort of organization. Braxton might have been 19 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: like more quick to catch on with that curve and 20 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: quick to catch on like and making those like really 21 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: like confident pitches that he's been doing now that have 22 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: been giving him that sort of success we've been seeing 23 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: last night Tuesday night not quite what you hope to 24 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: see from Braxton at this point. It's certainly one of 25 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: those like resetting nights. He started out fairly strong in that, 26 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: like he was really showing this Cardinal's lineup that he 27 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: belonged out there, but they really like caught up to 28 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: him pretty apparent. Seemed to be in that like fourth 29 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Internet bat against Paul Goldschmidt. It's hard to even talk 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: about like Cardinals hitters and Marlin's hitters in comparison. That's 31 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: just been an ongoing thing throughout the years. I feel 32 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: like every time we watched the Cardinals, we see them 33 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: solid at bats and fine runs. Really is like getting 34 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: it done offensively. Three is kind of like getting something done. 35 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think you'd have any argument that the 36 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals had the more productive bats throughout the game Tuesday, 37 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Carls let's a high fly ball. Yet the deep pint 38 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: that Carl is down, it's a Carbal double and the 39 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals happily. Then what did he do here? Too much 40 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: play and that is a great swing by Dylan carl 41 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: So they're gonna stay back and just literally instead of 42 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: trying to pull it, you started to stay inside it. 43 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: But anyhow, Wednesday Knew Day really like something I want 44 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: to put a pin in for the podcast. So there 45 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: is a like ongoing like inquiry by like the Senate 46 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee, and they've like reached out to the Advocates 47 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: for Minor League Baseball requesting some like questions answered from them. 48 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: This advocacy organization made up mostly of like former minor 49 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: leaguers that have gone on in their life Harry Marino 50 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: to work in like the legal profession while keeping like 51 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: measures to the pulse of the state of the minor leagues, 52 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: being that like this is a life that he lived. 53 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: It's a certainly like a passion that he could certainly 54 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: talk about. But he's throughout the years been working with organizations, 55 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: talking with players and like publishing information on the status 56 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: of like the minor league world, really saying that just 57 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: in the sense that it's so much different than like 58 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: the major league players world, much more discrepancy and just 59 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: like the income of players and just the general like 60 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: ability for these players to like find proper like housing 61 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: and like nutrition and all of those things that like 62 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be as difficult if they were not on 63 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: that like contract as exhibited by like the current state 64 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: of the minor leagues. Really, like the thing in question 65 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: is the anti trust exemption of Major League Baseball. It's 66 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: given this status as like free from monopoly. Here's America's 67 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: permission to be the baseball of the land, and the 68 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: minor leagues are like integral to that in like the 69 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: legal understanding. But what we're getting to today is this 70 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: like point where the Senate has turned back around and 71 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: it's starting to ask, like whether or not they should 72 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: have this exemption that's been there for one hundred years. 73 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: But now they're asking Harry Marino, like what effect does 74 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the entry trust exemption have on the instance of lockouts 75 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: work stoppages at the Major League Baseball level? What impact 76 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: the incidents have a minor league players and teams? They 77 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: also go on to say that Major League Baseball requires 78 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: all minor league players to sign a major league uniform 79 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: player contract. What role, if any, does major League Baseball's 80 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: anti trust exemptions play in enabling this conduct? And please 81 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: discuss the impact of the anti trust exemption on the 82 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: negotiation of minor league player's length of contracts, wages, housing, 83 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: in other working conditions. What effect would removing the anti 84 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: trust exemption have on minor league player working conditions? And 85 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: if a more tailored approach like extending the Kurt Flood 86 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Act to cover minor league players was taken, what would 87 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: be impacted. Essentially, they are asking what is going on 88 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: here and should we like mandate onto it as far 89 00:06:51,040 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: as like extending certain coverages to minor leaguers or what 90 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: have you. There, it does get to the point and 91 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: the Senate Committee does dig deeper into like like then 92 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: they themselves identify quote rampant corumption and abuse in the 93 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: market of international prospects, giving performance and nancy drugs to teenagers, 94 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: for shady dealings between scouts and trainers, and further stating 95 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: that like Major League Baseball in lobbying for the Save 96 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: of America's Pastime Act, which was necessary to prevent minor 97 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: league contraction according to Major League Baseball, they got to 98 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: call out that Major League Baseball, despite its enactment of 99 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: that sa PA Act. Prior to the twenty twenty one 100 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: baseball season, dozen of minor league teams lost their affiliation 101 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: with Major League Baseball clubs as a result of the 102 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: organization reorganization of the minor leagues, basically kind of calling 103 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: but kind of to air that action by Major League 104 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: Baseball and in a way questioning the authority of Major 105 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: League Baseball to express exactly, well exactly the truth on 106 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: these matters and what they're doing for baseball. It's just 107 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: like a really interesting letter to be released. Certainly, like 108 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: the optics of like, oh, this app to gate for 109 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: minor leaguers, revealing the questions that the Senators asked is 110 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: very much like a sort of like come look at 111 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: me sort of moment, So kind of like if you 112 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: want to both sides, so to speak, you could certainly 113 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: like take some real link shots at that. But the like, 114 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: the reality is that this Senate is interested in exploring 115 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: this issue further and they're taking all these perspectives into 116 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: consideration as they go about making well kind of as 117 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: we all go about making just a better future for 118 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: ourselves and for the sport. However we impacted ourselves. So yeah, anyways, 119 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: for the podcast today, I've been Andrew Werdahl, figure sign off, 120 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: leave you for that seven game not a whole lot 121 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: to say to update you before this one, but yeah, 122 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: just a lot to share with that letter to the 123 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: advocates for minor leaguers should be really like shifting stuff 124 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: throughout the major leagues and the minor leagues in the 125 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: years ahead. Like if somehow everyone has to significantly invest 126 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: in their minor league system fully, like supporting like the 127 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: cost of living and the financials for these minor league players, 128 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: the implications could be pretty great for your major league teams, 129 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: not in the sense that it would be like backbreaking 130 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: for their finances, but in the sense that it would 131 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: be like a real commitment. I think in like the 132 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: tens of millions maybe more for like some real sustainable solutions, 133 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,119 Speaker 1: perhaps paid for over years. And anyhow, Today is Wednesday, 134 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: June twenty ninth. Marlin will face the Cardinals to get 135 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: out of Saint Louis Sandy's on the Mount. Game starts 136 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: at seven forty five. For the Fish Strip podcast, I'll 137 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: be here with you on Friday,