1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Peace of the plant. Charlamagnea god here. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: Before we get into today's episode, we've got to celebrate 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 2: the Black Effect Podcast Network. It's turning five years old, man, 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: five years of powerful voices, unforgettable moments in a community 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: that keeps growing. 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: This is the power of the platform. 7 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 3: Now let's get into it. Hey, guys, welcome to another 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 3: episode of Selective Ignorance. 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Now let's get to this week's episode. This 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: the Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio. Welcome back 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: to Selective ignorance with your girl me Mandy B. And 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: this week we are joined by the two people that 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: y'all heard last week, and we are here to break 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: down all the things diving into who are we really? 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: We're gonna get into parasocial relationships, but also the lack 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: of comprehension in the ways in which people seemingly don't 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: seem to think for themselves anymore, whether they are regurgitating 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: information that they are seeing on the Twitter timeline, or 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: bringing their thoughts and views from their parenting, their upbringing, 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: all the things they're bringing into their real life because 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, people don't feel like they want to 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: have opinions of their own. They don't want to go 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: against the grain, and unfortunately it is causing us to 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: live in the echo chamber in which we live in. 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: And it's also why maybe some of you don't like 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: my thoughts and views on many things. I refuse to 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: live in an echo chamber. I believe in diving into 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: the things that I don't believe in, and I also 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: believe in questioning everything religion, science, and things that we 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: are supposed to perceive as facts. Oftentimes I want to 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: question it because where are we getting this information from 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: and I think that's very important. What I also think 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: is important is the ability to hold conversation and discourse 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: with people who think differently than us, allow the person 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 3: to finish their thoughts, allow the person to explain why 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: they believe what they believe, and allow us all to 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: agree to disagree, which ironically was going to be the 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 3: name of this podcast, but I didn't go with it. 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 3: I've joined as always with my super producer, A Kym 50 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: Jason is away. Listen we answer it, AK, well, shut up, 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: this is crazy. Here we go, Here we go, y'all. 52 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: We have Issuho is not very much a professional podcaster. 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: Somehow someone's just put a mic in front of his 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: mouth for the last three years, and now he's a podcaster. Y'all. 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: We have ish. We got ish from the Joe Budden podcast, 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: joining as well as Barry Food Today is in four K, 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: but I call him five K Barry, and we're here 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: to share our thoughts and views. Now Barry has been 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: able to listen. He has been a consumer of podcasts 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: for not as many years as he's been alive, because boy, 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: podcasts weren't there back in his old day. And then 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: we have ish who has been able to see see 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: what this can be as someone who shares his experiences 64 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: live and on a mic, who now has the lens 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: of his life his opinions on a full scale scope 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: where people can also be like. I hate everything he says. 67 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: I hate his laugh, I hate what he wears on 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: some Kendrick shit. I hate you know what I mean? 69 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: And me, y'all know, I'm a woman who ever one 70 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: has hated hearing. Because people I just don't think want 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: women to have opinions. I mean not to lean into that, 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: but you know, I mean to be fair, to be 73 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: fair this podcast to me starting it was because and 74 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: shout out to Ray Daniels, he said some shit investments 75 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: that I've heavily leaned into. It's why I started the 76 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 3: podcast I no longer have anymore. But also this podcast, 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: I think most people assume that women can just talk 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: about dating relationships. No, no, And I don't think many 79 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 3: people see women who have a full scale scope of 80 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: opinions on a broad range of things. Me I do. 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question at them, Do you 82 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: think society has made you guys dumb down? 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: I think that based on where we've been from the 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: landscape of the patriarchy in terms of the positions where 85 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: we've been able to hold even over I would say 86 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: the last thirty to forty years, right, like I say 87 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: it all the time. We were able to have our 88 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: first bank account in nineteen seventy four. My mom was 89 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: born before that, so to know that her mom couldn't have, 90 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, we're still so so 91 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: closely to the space where women were just reproductive beings 92 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: and household I think that ye subject to go crazy, no, no, no, no, 93 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 3: to be to. 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 5: No, I do so. 95 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: I think that because women weren't voices in society for 96 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 3: so long, from a political landscape, from even entertainment scale, 97 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: look at all nighttime television still too mostly men in 98 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: terms of high level careers, voices, powerful voices were always men, 99 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: and so I white men specifically, And so to me, yes, 100 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: being a black woman with a voice, with an opinionated 101 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: voice that kind of goes against the grain and refuses 102 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: to just allow people to tell me what I'm saying, 103 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: you know, doesn't align with societies points and views on 104 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: how I should exist. Yeah, I feel like, No, I 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: feel like it's been hard for women to have a voice, 106 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: a strong a strong boy, a strong opinion. And we'll 107 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: get into it later, but it's maybe why people have 108 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: their views on someone like in a Man of Seals, 109 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 3: like a Candice Owens. I think that we're not supposed 110 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: to have those strong narratives loud aloud. 111 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 4: I agree with you from a from a societal perspective, 112 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: I would agree with you. 113 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: I think that I tell you and you know I'll 114 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: tell you the truth. 115 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: You tell me your opinion. I don't know if it's 116 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: the truth. 117 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: You tell me, you can tell this is the truth. 118 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 4: These are conversations that you and I have had off 119 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: off horrible, Yes, you have horrible And I'm like, yo, dog, 120 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: you need to start because you know, you and I 121 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: will start talking about banking, We'll start talking about finance, 122 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: We'll talk about a wide array of things off mic 123 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: and I'm like, Doug, you need to show the world 124 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: that side of yourself. So that's what you talked about 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: with Ray. Ray's like, yo, do you need to be 126 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 4: more than just a girl that knows how to talk 127 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: about X. 128 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: I think it becomes a little frustrating for me right 129 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: now to also have to fight against all the people 130 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: that still don't want to hear women speak on those things, 131 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: and so, like, from a mental scope, and we've talked 132 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: about this too, from a mental scope, when you get 133 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: on this mic and you share your opinions, you're at 134 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: the mercy of people criticizing your opinion, criticizing you as 135 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: a person, and then questioning your character. And so when 136 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm perceived to be one way, I think it becomes 137 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: the mental gymnastics, which I talked to Barry quite a 138 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: lot about, because sometimes it's hard to get away from 139 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: those comments. It's hard to see people's thoughts and views 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: on you when you mean well, but people don't believe 141 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: you mean well. And we talked about this last week. 142 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: With your thoughts on the reparations take, it just becomes 143 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: difficult to be kind of a pioneer. Essentially, it becomes 144 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: difficult to be the person that's going to be like, oh, actually, 145 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: I do want to hear more women speak like this. 146 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: I do want And right now I feel like we're 147 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: at that scope where or we're at that space where 148 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: women are doing it, and there's a lot of pushback 149 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: about women having these voices. I mean I saw it 150 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: even politically with AOC in New York, a lot of 151 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: people not wanting to have a younger woman of color 152 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: in a political chair. Like right now, there is a 153 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: lot of pushback around opinionated women of color, specifically that 154 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: I think a lot of us are pushing the barriers 155 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: for right now. 156 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 4: Let me give you, let me ask you a question 157 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: because I can't speak from it because I can't see 158 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: it through your lens, right, Okay, do you think. 159 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: And this is one of the things that I think we. 160 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's a crutch, okay, because somebody with your opinions, 161 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: your views, your everything as a man might receive the 162 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: same exact criticism. Criticism don't necessarily come as a result 163 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: of your gender, but maybe as a result of your content, Okay, right, Okay, 164 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: So I think it's easy to say, Yo, they're only 165 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 4: doing that because I'm a woman. Right, That's one of 166 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: my arguments, y'all know where I stand sometimes with some 167 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: of the black stuff, like yo, fam, Oh, they only 168 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: treat me that way because I'm black. Right, that may 169 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: be the case, but it might not be the case. 170 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 4: So I don't like to lean on that as a crutch. 171 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: I think that an fam I'm not a white man. 172 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: Joe Buden is not a white man. Charlemagne is not 173 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: a white man. I mean a black woman. I'm sorry 174 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: they get critiqued. We get critique just as much. So 175 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: it's not a gender thing. Sometimes it's a content thing 176 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 4: or your opinions that are going to be criticized by 177 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: the masses. 178 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 3: I get that. I still just think that we we 179 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: as a society all the things are used to hearing men. 180 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: We're used to hearing men have these and standing on 181 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: their like we're you bury you out face with the 182 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: people not watching it on YouTube, your face is like. 183 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 5: We talk about this all the time, and the challenge 184 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: is we get more sensitive about people critiquing us that 185 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 5: look like us, that are moments okay, And because we 186 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 5: talk a lot of times, you know everybody, you always 187 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: talk this, I'm the villain. I'm the villain. They think 188 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 5: I'm the villain ninety percent of the time when you 189 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: talk about them, or you even go to the post. 190 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 5: You're responding to black women's post. I'm assuming it's similar 191 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: on the Joe Budden. It's fellas. You're hearing fellas that 192 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 5: you would think you are speaking for or allanan for 193 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 5: being the voice for who are pushing back on you. 194 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 5: So like, what, dude, where you live, How you don't 195 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 5: relate to what I'm saying. How don't you hear me 196 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 5: saying it? And you be like, okay, I'm situting, then 197 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 5: why are you shooting at me? And we don't even 198 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 5: get to talk that much. And I just think that's it. 199 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: I don't think neither one of you are listening to 200 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 5: White Jimmy from Nashville and it's like, oh yeah, I 201 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: can't sleep tonight because somebody said, it's not bothering me. 202 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 5: It's the guy that talk to you that's gonna be 203 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 5: in the same barbershop. 204 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: As for me, it's not so much to criticism, it's 205 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: how you critique, right. I've literally yesterday a girl came 206 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: up to me like ish Portia. 207 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: I never. 208 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: I never met her in person. We be going at 209 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 4: it sometimes on online good quality conversation weaken to your point. 210 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 4: You can disagree with somebody and still engage in a 211 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: way that is dope. 212 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: I mean to be fair. That's that's why this podcast 213 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: to me, I enjoy it. I like to have discourse, 214 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: but healthy discourse, And so I think that that's my problem. 215 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 3: I know, we talk about comprehension. We talk about where 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 3: people stand in their opinions, even online. I think a 217 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: lot of my problem with conversations comes to your response 218 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: in not agreeing with me comes as an insult. So 219 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: when you talk about critiquing, you could just say, yo, 220 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: I completely disagree with everything you said. Here's my thoughts. Abuse. No, Instead, 221 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: it's you're a whore and you're never gonna no one's 222 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: ever gonna want to be with you. I think that 223 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: we don't have the ability, and when I say we 224 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: right now as a society, we want to label people things. 225 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: We want to call them out of their names if 226 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: that we don't agree with them, instead of actually sitting 227 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: in a space of understanding. Which is why I know 228 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: everyone says, oh my god, take away the podcast mikes. 229 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: My friends laugh at me. It's why I enjoy hearing 230 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: people talk. There's nothing better than hearing I yell when 231 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: I listen to the JVP. I hate everything that y'all say. 232 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: Ninety nine percent of the time, y'all sound crazy, but 233 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: I enjoy hearing because all of your don't fix your face, 234 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: ish ish, fix your face. 235 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: No. 236 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: You know I'll call you sometimes and be like, yo, 237 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: you should have got this out, Like, I'm mad that 238 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: you didn't take the conversation here because I feel like 239 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: it would have allowed for a broader conversation. I enjoy 240 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: hearing people disagree. Unfortunately, people who want to consume content 241 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: when they hear something they don't like, it's now I 242 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: want to attack this person. I want to remove their 243 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: ability to speak. I want to remove microphones from podcasters. 244 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: And it's like, nigga, did we not enjoy the First Amendment? 245 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: But it's two things. One the people that insult you, 246 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: this is my tape. 247 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 3: Here we go. 248 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: They really don't have the ability to. 249 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Spar with you. 250 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 5: Facts. 251 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: If you had the ability to spar with me, you 252 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: don't got to insult me. One of my one of 253 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: my homeboys from Baltimore. Look, Wesley Hawkins, dope dude from Baltimore, 254 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: wrote a book, My Man. 255 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: We met again based on a disagreement. 256 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: What did y'all disagree on? 257 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: I forgot it was something. It was something black issue. 258 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: He's from Baltimore, from the hood. Okay, we just start. 259 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: Kicking, he said, Yeah, y'all don't need no money over there. 260 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: No, we just start times, right, No, so look, we 261 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: start kicking. I'm like, Yo, my nigga, we we we 262 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: we texted too much, sent me his number. We start 263 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: kicking it. That's my now to again. He got a 264 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: nonprofit doing great things in Baltimore, and based on our 265 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: ability to have a conversation, which which started from a disagreement, 266 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: we've reached a place where that's my man, Like, Yo, 267 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: you need some help. 268 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: Whatever you're doing, hit me up. Your nonprofit is moving. 269 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: Out, Extend whatever resources I can to you, et cetera. 270 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: That's fire. 271 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: But as somebody don't possess the ability in which to 272 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: jump in and box with you, all they gonna do 273 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: is throw bottles from the arena, you know what I mean? 274 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: Like they don't so oh you know what I mean? 275 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: Times I told people both of my parents are black, 276 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: like that. 277 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: Because your mama white? 278 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 5: You mother. 279 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: White? Boy? You you just doing that because your mama white. 280 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: And it's like, yo, fam, No, I think like this 281 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: because I think like this and I have the ability 282 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: to be objective. I think objective thoughts are missing in 283 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: the space. 284 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: How did you think that we got to the and 285 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: I love that we're going to dissect this. How do 286 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: you think we how do you think you think social 287 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: media is the is where we lost the ability to 288 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: be objective. 289 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 5: No, but where do you think I'll go? Social media first, 290 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: because it became easier. You got too much access, people 291 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: shared too easy. 292 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: You believe too much access, too. 293 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 5: Much access you could you can share information. Book schools 294 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 5: even have conversations, even have I've been listening to podcasts 295 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 5: for the longest of times, but it's you're a sports fan, 296 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 5: name the sports show. Now there's a thousand of them 297 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 5: that you actually get informed about sports. 298 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: M I think that's a different conversation, I think, and 299 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: I think they start with that in mind, right, and 300 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: then I think, hold on, I think they start with 301 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: that intent right, that we're going to come up here. 302 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: We're going to discuss sports from a different angle. Some 303 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: of us are anchored by somebody that played okay, so 304 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: they can bring their real life sports experience is to 305 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: a platform to inform the masses of shit that goes 306 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: on one And I think that this is now a 307 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: money generating vehicle. 308 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: And when the money generating. 309 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: Via you lean into what's entertaining gets into play. Now 310 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: we have to go with what is pushing the engine, right. 311 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 5: So that's when you stop learning, and that's the part 312 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: that I'm saying, I love to learn. I love the 313 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 5: same way you were talking about intelligent conversations. If you 314 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 5: want to you I know you have a daughter, but 315 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 5: if you have like even a daughter who was coming 316 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: up with sports and you want to teach or whatever, 317 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 5: there's none of them, even with NFL Hall of Famous, 318 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 5: Basketball Hall of Famers that you can say, following them, 319 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: you'll learn a lot about this. 320 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: So you know what, I think that gonna sell. 321 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: But not only that, but I think that that's the 322 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: problem with maybe possibly objectivity. Right now, you just leaned 323 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: into podcasts or platforms where you could be informed. Nigga, 324 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: pick up a book, nigga go to go to go 325 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: to a class that teaches you things. I think that's 326 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: the problem with objectivity. Right we're learning those opinions lazily. 327 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: We're learning through opinions, and we're learning through our fees. 328 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: So mind you, the feat is tailored towards your algorithm. 329 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: So if you're somebody who thinks a certain way or 330 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: is interested in certain things, those are literally going to 331 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: be the only things fed to you. But but so 332 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: I think I think the problem with with people being 333 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: objective is that we actually are creating these ecosystems of 334 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: echo chambers, back to that subjectivity of of of where 335 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: you lean. So when you see enough people in this 336 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: echo chamber agreeing with you or or has the same thoughts, 337 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 3: abuses you. As soon as someone else thinks something different 338 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: or that lands on your this person is this, this 339 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: person is that, And so unfortunately, we are learning and 340 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: we're obtaining information via an algorithm that is catered specifically. 341 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 4: To us thoughts. 342 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: And our thoughts. So the the the place in which 343 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: we can get to where we're able to sit and 344 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: allow people the ability to disagree with you and for 345 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: you to listen to them, gets removed. 346 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 5: Can y'all tell when y'all are in the echo chamber 347 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 5: and when somebody's giving you fresh clear thoughts? I just 348 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 5: think there's less of them. 349 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: My question is what makes you think that way? And 350 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: when you ask someone so to me, when I when 351 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: I sat on a platform right, A lot of my thoughts, 352 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: views and opinions come from my experiences. And so if 353 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: someone asks me why I feel a way about X, 354 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: y Z, I say, well, this took place, this is where, 355 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: this is the environment I was in, this is what 356 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: I experienced and this is what I took from it. 357 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: That's why I have this opinion. A lot of times 358 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: right now when you ask someone why they think of 359 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: something or where they got to that conclusion, it's it's 360 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: it's a lot of it's a they don't know how 361 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: to and it's because they've run enough tweets to where 362 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, let me remember, it's not their thoughts. 363 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: They using that AI to go straight to the email. 364 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 5: They not even reading it. 365 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: Not even the AI straight to the email. It's again, 366 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: when you're getting your news not from a news broadcaster 367 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: that is on location at the scene, When you're getting 368 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: your news from a fucking infographic with big letters and 369 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: a nice picture, or you're getting your news from tweets 370 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: of people that have the same thoughts of you, You're 371 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 3: you're gonna remember those things, so you're gonna regurgitate those words. 372 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: You're not actually sitting with how you formed an opinion 373 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: on said topic. 374 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: And that's why I don't think is I don't think 375 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: the Internet is the blame. I think the Internet has 376 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 4: been a powerful, powerful tool that magnified it. 377 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think the Internet is the blame. 378 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: Because pre Internet, our parents got their information from the 379 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 4: news cool. Our parents might have gotten information from. 380 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: From the National Inquirer. 381 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 4: I remember having the Britanna cassette in my house. We 382 00:19:50,400 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: know you you at the sources like my mom, only 383 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 4: about two at a time, like we got the A 384 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 4: through j come in into two months. 385 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Yo. 386 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is but, and this is where I 387 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: disagree with you with regards to too much access of information, 388 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 4: because the information was being pigeonholed to us based on 389 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 4: whatever this powerful white person's narrative, how they wanted to 390 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: spend it. They fed it to us and we had 391 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 4: to accept it because we didn't have any other outlets 392 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 4: for information to come to us. 393 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 5: But this is where it's a thin line. Because I'm 394 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 5: a podcast. I follow you both follow facts, Joe, thank you. 395 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 5: I put mine in that. But I know something happens 396 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: on Monday, depending on the recording schedule. Over you all 397 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 5: by the time is next Monday. I've heard that opinion 398 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: and we are in it. You all'll have are smart. 399 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I know people have feelings about man in 400 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 5: different ways. You will testify business minded focused content creator 401 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 5: does all those things well? You industry and construction, different 402 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: things You're clearly well read, and it's not that it's 403 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 5: well traveled. 404 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: He goes to con Wow, I love it. 405 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 5: Just to steal a turn from you all. I think 406 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 5: we're stuck in content over everything. I think there's so 407 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 5: many chances, and it doesn't have to be ninety percent 408 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: of your time. It doesn't have to be eighty percent, 409 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: it doesn't have to be fifty to fifty. But there's 410 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 5: been so many times, in so many moments, with your reach, 411 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 5: you could add to our community a little bit more, 412 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 5: and you do it from times to time, both of you. 413 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 5: I think you could do it more. 414 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: You can't. It's you. I can't say you can't. 415 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 4: But when I go back to your sports thing, right, 416 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: and this is what this is something that Joe had 417 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: to teach me when I first came on the show, 418 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, like, you know, we used to have to 419 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: bring topics on the board, bring a whole bunch of 420 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 4: serious topics because me, I was probably forty five forty six. 421 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: Then these are the things that may be hard. 422 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: You're an idiot, yo, These are the things that these 423 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 4: are the things that were important to me. Right, So 424 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 4: I know we have this wide diverse group of listeners, 425 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna assume that the forty something year rodemic demo, 426 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: the upper thirty demo, would be interested in these things. 427 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: And Joe's stance is dog, that's fly, that's good shit. 428 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: But our job is to entertain first and educate maybe second. 429 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: This is not a podcast. This is not a podcast 430 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 4: where education is the primary focus. And for you to say, like, yo, 431 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: if you watch a sports pod, they're not teaching. You 432 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 4: might not be on in a year if you take 433 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: the teaching route, because you're gonna get canceled because your 434 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 4: raims might be shitty. So I'm not going to now 435 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: not be able to feed my family. And and it 436 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 4: served no purpose because I'm not even on the radio anymore. 437 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: I'm not I don't have my pot anymore because they've 438 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: canceled my ship because the ratings weren't good. So let 439 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: me lean now into some of the funnier storiesons to 440 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 4: some of the other shit, and get in some teaching 441 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: where I can. 442 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 3: I think that's the other thing too. I think people 443 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 3: are content with with not learning anything new, like people, 444 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: and back to our ignorance. You can you can what 445 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: if you know better, you'll do better. Some people don't 446 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: want to know better they are content with where they're at, 447 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: and so leaning into him. When I first started Full 448 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 3: Court Pumps, it was a blog that I genuinely wanted 449 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 3: to highlight what athletes were doing off the court. They're organizations, 450 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: they're nonprofits, they're the things that I saw was done. 451 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 3: I had a whole sports blog, so I was I 452 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: was credentialed pumps. Shut the fuck up. No, it wasn't 453 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: the other pumps. It was sports. I hate you like. 454 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: I was big and heavy into like I grew up sports, 455 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: my whole wall, growing up with Slam Magazine, East Bay, 456 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: like all the things. And so when I got there, 457 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, these these dudes are doing so 458 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 3: many dope things. Let me highlight that. Let me interview 459 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: and see who they are. People only cared about who 460 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: they were dating, who they were sleeping with, the scandals, 461 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: And what I realized early on, even as someone who 462 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 3: wanted to lean into journalism, was people don't care about 463 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: the good shit. They want the mess. And so when 464 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: we talk, even on podcasts, it comes to even selecting 465 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: topics where okay, that again, that's what this podcast is about, 466 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 3: diving into the outrage and discourse around certain things that 467 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: social media finds entertaining, and unfortunately it's not always about 468 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: what's really happening in Gaza. It's not always what's really 469 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 3: happening on a political state and what's impacting us in 470 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: text codes, and you gotta go to the mess. 471 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: Dog. 472 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 4: We just talked about invest Fest literally last week. And 473 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: when we're talking about invest fast your dog, we can 474 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: be giving you the information. 475 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: That you say you want, that you say you want. 476 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: You say you want this information and now we've given 477 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 4: it to you, or we might have get given you 478 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: a starting point. 479 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: Cool. 480 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 4: So if you were really sincere about bettering your life, 481 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 4: you could take the information that we gave you, do 482 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 4: a little bit more research yourself and come up with 483 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 4: a positive result and outcome with with with the algorithmic stuff. Dog, 484 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: Your algorithm, to your point is gonna feed you. 485 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: That's why we still got racist to date. 486 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 5: But algorithm you by going to what you want? Are you? 487 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 5: Are you want what you want? You only look what's on. 488 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: Your home No, no, no, your homepage is based on 489 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 4: the ship that you that you that you stay. 490 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: And if you stay on yep. 491 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 4: My home A few things in my homepage. It's some 492 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 4: financial fee what else is on that. It's some ass, 493 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: it's some financial ship, it's some ship about parenting, it's 494 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 4: some ship about sports. 495 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: Cool. 496 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 4: If I wanted to go to all NASA aeronautical ship, 497 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 4: it's gonna feed me rocket ships, it's gonna feed me 498 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 4: space travel. 499 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna feed me all of these things. Twenty four 500 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: to seven. 501 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: If you they even now have a thing to say, 502 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: are you interested in this type of content? 503 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: Yes, y'all at the bottom, so that its. 504 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 4: Yes, it's gonna give you more of what you want. 505 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: So if you want more of the real educational content, it'll. 506 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Give it me. 507 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: Not not only educational. Let's go back to opinions and 508 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: people being able to form their own. People do not 509 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: like to be fed things that go against their beliefs, 510 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: Like there's something about having conversations with people like like again, 511 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: in your mind, you go straight to this to insult. 512 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: This person is either dumber than me. I don't want 513 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: to hear nothing they have to say. This person doesn't 514 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: have my experience. I hate that they're even being platformed. 515 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 3: It immediately goes into people being upset that someone has 516 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: a different opinion. So there becomes a way where these 517 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: types of conversations aren't allowed. It's funny because I sat 518 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: with you know, let me ask you all this question 519 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 3: because it was interesting. I sat with Jay Hill a 520 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, had a very very very hit 521 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: a hot take. I said, He's like, you know, I 522 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: just like to sit with people that I know I 523 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: disagree with. And so I said, what three people would 524 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 3: you like to have joined you on your podcast? And 525 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: the three people he said, And it was very interesting 526 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 3: because he also didn't have any conversations he would want 527 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: to have with him, which was weird. But he said 528 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: he would want to sit with R Kelly, Trump and 529 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: Kanye and I immediately was like, I was like, oh 530 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: you would, you would platform them a little tricky, but 531 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: then I I didn't make a face at first, and 532 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 3: then I was like, Okay, well, what conversations because I 533 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: know you don't agree with everything they've done, right, what 534 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: questions would you want to ask them? And it was 535 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: very interesting because he didn't really have any He would 536 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: have just allowed them to have free flowing conversation and to. 537 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 5: Mesation being in the moment too. 538 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 3: I think to me, lens leads again to where I 539 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: think people aren't comfortable with how they would engage in 540 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: someone that they disagree with. 541 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: I think that was off the cuff response shout to 542 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: Jay Hill. I think that if Jay Hill that Donald 543 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 4: Trump was coming to the show, he would prep for 544 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: it and he would have he would have questions. Maybe 545 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 4: in your interview, again off the cuff, and you asked 546 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: him what specific questions would you ask these gentlemen? 547 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: He might not have had anything. 548 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: But see, but see here's the thing. 549 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: He's a professional. He would have had to. 550 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: I get a professional, right. I don't know the guests. 551 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: You told me that's coming on the JBP stone maybe 552 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 3: the episode already you told me someone was coming on 553 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 3: the pod, and immediately I knew something they did that 554 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: I didn't agree with. And I was like, ooh, I 555 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: want to bring up while they did. 556 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: What. I don't even know what she's talking about, but. 557 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean what I don't know, but what guess 558 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: was it you said is coming on? And I immediately 559 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: knew something. Something immediately came to my head on something 560 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: that they've done publicly that I just. 561 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 5: You're behind the scenes person you know more about. 562 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: No, this is something that was public so to me, 563 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: even like immediately I answered the question I threw him 564 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: like I joy disagreeing with people and being able to 565 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: have that dialogue right, So immediately I would ask, and 566 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: I said, there by the way real quick, just because 567 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: now I want to throw it out there. Do y'all 568 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: have questions that y'all would ask those three men off 569 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: off the cuff. 570 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 4: I'm sure I could come up with a laundry list 571 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: of ship that I would ask all three of them. 572 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: But based on not agreeing though with. 573 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 5: Curiosity. That's the basis of any good conversation. 574 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 4: Great conversations are open to objectivity. So on our show, 575 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 4: everybody say, I'm a Drake stand I don't even know 576 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: a lot of Drake's music. 577 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Nick, I know a lot of Drake. 578 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: You don't. You go to see here say you don't 579 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: know a lot of Drake music. 580 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: Don't we have Joe up there, we have Ice up there, 581 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: we have Parks up there. Them niggas know way more 582 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 4: Drake shit than me, probably times twenty. 583 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 584 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: I know the commercial Drake ship and a little other 585 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 4: the five Am at Montreal. 586 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 5: Or six number one for so long you're gonna know. 587 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: But I don't know the in depth Drake music. Be 588 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 4: sides and all that ship like them, I don't. What 589 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 4: I try to open up to is an objective point 590 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: of view. Where can you possibly see where this man 591 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 4: is coming from? Can you understand possibly why he's carrying 592 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 4: on in a manner in which he's carrying on? 593 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying. Objectivity is lost now, yo, 594 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: you fucking dick sucking. 595 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 5: Chance up. 596 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: That's what I get every day. 597 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is when when when when I'm 598 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: talking to somebody about Amanda Sells, when she was talking 599 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 4: to these people, you could tell some of them, number one, 600 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 4: were too young to even have experienced these things. So 601 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: all they were doing was taken in their algorithmic information 602 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 4: keep coming through you because that's the ship that you 603 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: are liking or hitting the like button on, right, and 604 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 4: they were just regurgitating that fact. So clearly, objectivity to 605 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: me makes you way more informed and way more educated. 606 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: Yes, but I want to bring something up because it's 607 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: something that I think both of y'all have checked me 608 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: on before. In terms of receiving, delivery and discourse. I 609 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: think there's an emotional thing to it where then we 610 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: get into tone and someone could be saying some really 611 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: good things someone could be delivering it passionately. I know 612 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: that Carla leaned into her passionate it comes. There's also 613 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: a point where we don't listen to people wants. Tone 614 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: and delivery impacts us on an emotion. What because I'll 615 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: be honest with you too. There are things okay, so, 616 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: and we kind of talked about this, the ability for 617 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: people to change right and where we like to place them. 618 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: There are certain conversations I don't want to hear certain 619 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 3: people have because of things that I know they've done. 620 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: It's not fair. 621 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: Why is that not fair? 622 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: It's like somebody saying, Yo, you can't be a relationship 623 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: counselor if you had three feil marriages life experience, who 624 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: better to tell you where you fucked up on relationships. 625 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to learn business from the person that 626 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: got it right on the first try. I don't I 627 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 4: want to learn business from the nigga that bumped their 628 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: head seven thousand times. 629 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: And they have way more They have way. 630 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 4: More skin in the game than somebody that just got 631 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: it right on the first go, like they know the 632 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 4: pitfall when I try to mentor people in the real 633 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: estate arena, I've told you this fam, I'll hold your 634 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: hand and walk you through it, and I'll let you know. 635 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: Don't do that, right, don't. It's not you know, we do. 636 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 4: We think we're smarter than the mentor, and we'll be like, 637 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 4: he couldn't do it, let me do it. So I 638 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: think that when we take information from people that might 639 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: have failed in these areas, I think they may be 640 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 4: the most or have the most profound. 641 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: Advice. 642 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 5: So this is where the struggle is. This is what 643 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 5: the balance is, because I'm into different people in different 644 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: arena especially I stuff just share. If the problem comes 645 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 5: when you want them to do it exactly what you said, 646 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 5: the problem comes when you want them to salute you, 647 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 5: kiss your ass because you gave them a little bit 648 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 5: of information. Not that anyone's done that, but that's what 649 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: it is. It's like you're not just giving information freely. 650 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 5: Just we talked about the best fast, just give it, 651 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 5: give it out, don't always charge for it. I understand 652 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 5: if your business model is. But there's so many young 653 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 5: kids I was talking to. I do photography. I have 654 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 5: my camera around and no less than twenty five young 655 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: gins they were doing the big had better cameras than me. 656 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 5: Walked up how we do this, how you do this? Like, oh, 657 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 5: so you're shooting it for free? You're doing this on 658 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: your business? Did you buy your camera gear through your business? 659 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 5: Because you're hopefully you're writing this all off. Hopefully you 660 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 5: came here not just as yourself but as yeah, and 661 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 5: you're writing this down and you're keeping your receipts. Oh man. 662 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 5: Now they don't have to do nothing more than that. 663 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 5: They can give me a pound and walk away and 664 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 5: we're good. It's when you gotta you see how you 665 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 5: start poking your chests out. Let me tell you, bruh, 666 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 5: it's a community. 667 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 4: It's just share. And that's what sincerity comes in. If 668 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: you're sincere about trying. 669 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: To map people, and that's the thing people aren't. 670 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: I know, if you're sincere about trying to teach the people. Yo, dog, 671 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 4: you know what I mean people. Your dude came up 672 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: to me yesterday and was like, Yo, dog, thank you 673 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,959 Speaker 4: so much. I ain't even remember them. He was like, dog, 674 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: you helped me out of a situation when my grandmother's house. 675 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: I'm like where he was like, I think Buffalo And 676 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 4: he was just telling me about some ship. I told 677 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: him that I did not remember and he was like, Yo, 678 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 4: thank you so much, dog, I just want to And 679 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: I was like, all. 680 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: Right, cool, like you'll enjoy I mean, but I think 681 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: that's doing for that, But you didn't do it for that. 682 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: But again, it's it's being able to give information soon 683 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 3: being able to take it and use it again. Right now, 684 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 3: it's no one. 685 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 4: No one wants to do, nobody to be no no 686 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 4: one wants to do what egos are running rampant. And 687 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 4: I think that you could tell me how to do 688 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: some shit. And this is where the money always comes in. 689 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 4: If you don't have more money than I have, your 690 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 4: opinion now becomes null and void. If and I might 691 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 4: not you might have more money than me, but if 692 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 4: you don't wear the money. And I said this all 693 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 4: the time in real estate, like yo, dog, I could 694 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 4: tell somebody how to do all of these things. And 695 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 4: I pull up in the Cherokee and they'll look at 696 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 4: me like, show ass out of here. I might have 697 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 4: seventy seven houses, get your ass out of here. But 698 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: the nigga that got two houses pull up in a Ferrari. 699 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 4: You're giving them your mother's social Security number. You've giving 700 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 4: them all your information. 701 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: I'll say unfortunately. I think that's just us, Like I 702 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: was just talking to my friend right oh, because because 703 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: the white billionaires don't look like they got a pot 704 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 3: to pisson Like. I thought it was really interesting too. 705 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: It was funny and we didn't get to talk about 706 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 3: it because you left a little early at Investpaz. Jack 707 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: Dorsey was remote, bro no, but we didn't. I didn't 708 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: get to talking about the nigga had a fan behind 709 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 3: him and it looked like he was in a hosteleosto. Look, 710 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: it was bro not even. 711 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 5: He just don't want to show you the palace behind. 712 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: It when I tell you somewhere. 713 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: Because the band was spinning. 714 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 3: It was with the repellence. It's the old school fucking 715 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 3: fan behind him. It wasn't no electric fan. 716 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: That ship was moving around. 717 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 3: Literally so so literally it was. It was interesting. I 718 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: look it up. Jack Dorsey, mind you guys. He is 719 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 3: the creator of Square cash app and Twitter co founder 720 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: come founder Twitter. So I'm watching this video. He's talking 721 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 3: very smartly. I ain't know all the things he was 722 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: motherfucker saying, but yeah, he loves me a little bit. 723 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 3: But I'm listening to Jack Dorsey, who I think is 724 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: worth like fourteen billion or something crazy and im and 725 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm rising and I'm looking at his background and I'm 726 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 3: talking to shout out to Danny. I'm talking to Troy's wife, 727 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 3: and I was like, yo, only white people get away 728 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: with this, like because I'm like, again, what you're saying, 729 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: the way we perceive wealth and how we have to 730 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: show up to be taken serious even is is where 731 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: our community limits ourself and where we're getting our information 732 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: because we're not going to listen to the nigga driving 733 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 3: the Cherokee. We want the nigga driving the Lambo. And 734 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: so it was so interesting because my mind went there yesterday. 735 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 3: I was like and I'm like, I'm like, yo, Jack, 736 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 3: we're not going to leave it championship. But what's crazy 737 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 3: is the fact that my mind went to that. I 738 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: was like, he is on a sleeping on it. Literally, 739 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: Danny was like, where's the pillowcase? For the pillow? Like 740 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 3: there was a concrete. I was like, is he in 741 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: a war zone? 742 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: He'll cut you look like you're bunker And it. 743 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 5: Was interesting what kind of wife you got? 744 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: I thought the wife? 745 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 5: I was all right, maybe he froze for like two minutes. 746 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 5: They had to rebooth oh see. 747 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: Oh. 748 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't there for the beginning because I was like, 749 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: he sounded good. But it was interesting as seeing this 750 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 3: room of people again. They sold twenty five thousand tickets. 751 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 3: We all want to hear Jack Dorsey. I thought he 752 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 3: was gonna be there. 753 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 5: I wanted. 754 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to see the man, see the man. But 755 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: seeing him on zoom, my my mind went immediately to 756 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 3: the background because I'm like, I know he has the money, 757 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 3: and unfortunately that's where we see our people showing up online. 758 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 3: No one wants to listen to the people who went 759 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 3: to school, who got the degrees, who did this? No, 760 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: I want to listen to the welse. 761 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 5: I want the passport bus all the time. No, no, no, yeah, 762 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 5: want to say everything in the background different, I mean 763 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 5: in real talk. Well, but I'll be honest, you all 764 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 5: don't have not even half that room. Seventy percent of 765 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 5: the room didn't know who was on the screen, and 766 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 5: it probably didn't catch the ticket or I believe that 767 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 5: did not. 768 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: You don't believe that. 769 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 5: I think they know his brands. 770 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: No, maybe I don't think they know him because because. 771 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 3: Because also he doesn't carry himself like an elon. He 772 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 3: doesn't carry himself like a Trump like for that room, 773 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 3: we could sit here and talk about black billionaires. I 774 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 3: think a lot of people don't know outside of Warren Buffett, 775 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 3: like what you know what I mean, like, I don't 776 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 3: think that they're that they look at that. And it's 777 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 3: funny because I heard you just talk about black billionaires 778 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 3: too recently. 779 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 4: It was a lot of the billionaires show don't carry 780 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 4: themselves like that. Ninety five percent of them you could 781 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 4: see in the grocery store and not know who the 782 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 4: fuck they are. 783 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: Our billionaires don't carry themselves that way. But I think 784 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 3: I think majority of. 785 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 5: Our billionaires ones we know, we know the celebrity ones. 786 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 5: We knowurity ones. You see them in that environment, and. 787 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 4: They got their billions being a celebrity, right, okay, valid 788 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 4: in front of people, You're right, okay. 789 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 5: The one who owns patents, the one's own property. 790 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: You can see done. 791 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: You can see Don Peebles in the grocery store and 792 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: not know who he was, by. 793 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: The way, shout out to him last year walked through 794 00:39:59,239 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 3: the marketplace. 795 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: His son came up to me last year was like, 796 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: is I'm a fan? Yo? We need to work to I. 797 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 5: Was like, we didn't start counting doors the dogs conversation. 798 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 4: But again, if you are Jay z, if you are Beyonce, 799 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 4: if you are Lebron James, if you are Shaquille O'Neill, 800 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 4: you made the bulk of your money or you got 801 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 4: the stepping stone to your wealth through a screen. Everybody 802 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 4: knows you. They're gonna rush you. That might be uncomfortable 803 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 4: for you. Having all these people dog yesterday was overwhelming. 804 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 4: For me, it was overwhelmed a lot of me. I'm 805 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 4: not even gonna hold you, like I never experienced that, 806 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 4: engaged with that, like a lot of it. But they 807 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 4: were like it was I never experienced that soous, So 808 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 4: I can I can only imagine what Lebron James would 809 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 4: go through. Right, So, but the black billionaires that are 810 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 4: making their money and other arenas, they can walk through 811 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: the marketplace and nobody knows what yall. 812 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 5: Right. 813 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 3: It's interesting because I want to go to kind of 814 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 3: back to who we are and how we show up again, 815 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: not being objective, not knowing our own opinion. It's interesting 816 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 3: too because with social media, which I want to lean 817 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 3: into what you said, With social media, we're creating these 818 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 3: caricatures of ourself online. You don't do it because I 819 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 3: think you're a little older and don't know how to 820 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: really navigate it very well. But I want to say, 821 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: people are showing the reels of their life and want 822 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: to show these things to where they're believing this is 823 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 3: who they are. They're believing that they are whoever they 824 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 3: present to be online. They're creating these these caricatures essentially 825 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 3: of themselves. 826 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 5: And wanting go ahead to highlight that. I mean, And 827 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 5: I know this story in this trope has been saying 828 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 5: a million times. If the aliens, and I know you 829 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 5: believe in the Aliens, I do. If the aliens coming 830 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 5: to the Earth and they would pick any race, we'll 831 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 5: talk black for them. And they had to learn about 832 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 5: blacks from social media, from TV, from songs, what what 833 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 5: would they take away? 834 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 3: Not good things? 835 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: That's not true. 836 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 5: You don't think something, I mean because I didn't. I 837 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 5: didn't say what it was. 838 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: He said, not good things? 839 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 3: Well, because I think that when you lean into heavily 840 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: what's portrayed about us, it's the worst of us. It's 841 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: the stereotypes of us, popular portrayal. But that's what I'm saying, 842 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 3: that's that's not true. 843 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 4: That's what gets highlighted. If you have one hundred artists, yes, 844 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 4: let's go to music first. If you have an you're 845 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: talking about music. If you go to if you go 846 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 4: to music first, right, you might have one hundred artists, 847 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 4: only ten of them are getting played right right, cool. 848 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 4: So if the aliens came down and they listened to 849 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 4: black music in its entirety, black music is not all 850 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 4: bang bangs, shoot them up, killing nigga dots, slow like, 851 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: it's not all that. It's a lot of quality black 852 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 4: music that we are just again algorithmically not being presented. 853 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 5: But here they don't have an algorithm algorithm those first ten. 854 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 4: But if they don't hear that ten first, and they 855 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 4: hear the other twenty quality shit first, and then you 856 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 4: throw in three bullshit. 857 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 3: So you can't say that because again, say there's no algorithm, 858 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 3: there's still radio is gonna play those algorithm No, no, no, 859 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 3: But also it's what's being fed to you right, so 860 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: and again back to if the aliens, but if the 861 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: aliens are acting again, even when you don't have an algorithm, 862 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 3: right when. 863 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 5: You say, you say, say you. 864 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 3: First, say you just get on a feed. You're gonna 865 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 3: see the most popular things first. You're not gonna see. 866 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 3: You're gonna see the people with millions of followers. You're 867 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 3: gonna see the things that most people follow. But it's 868 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 3: not gonna be the outlies. So let's let's talk about 869 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 3: to even music, right, Let's talk about music for how 870 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 3: we want to consume things, specifically hip hop or R 871 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 3: and B. What's the most popular right now for hip hop? 872 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 3: There's getting praise of the Chance album right now. Right 873 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 3: when he was happy with his wife, nobody wanted to 874 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: hear that shit. Then you have then you have R 875 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 3: and B. Guess what people say about R and B. 876 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 3: We love heartbreak. We like when people are going through it. 877 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 3: That's the best music because you can feel it. They 878 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 3: don't the maryor Jay Black. They want I'm going down. 879 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: They don't want I'm happy or with dancery or whatever 880 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 3: that barshit sound. 881 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 4: We had this conversation the other day, actually shout out 882 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 4: the Chance album is amazing. 883 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: What we said was. 884 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 4: When people are going through negative things, sometimes self reflection 885 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 4: now comes in and your creativity and your artistic ability 886 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 4: now magnifies because life ain't so good right now. So 887 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 4: we're not in con writing some surface shit. We in 888 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 4: a dark room somewhere going through some heartbreak and we're 889 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 4: putting that on piece of paper and everybody can relate. 890 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 3: To and hip hop and in our community specifically, we 891 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 3: highlight the struggle. We highlight having to sell drugs. Our 892 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: rappers are leaning it. Let's be very clear. One of 893 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 3: the biggest rappers right now and I don't know, Yeah, 894 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 3: here's a rapper out Broadway dark. That's what's being fed 895 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 3: to are you when we look at what Emine was 896 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 3: talking about, fucking locking his baby mamas, Amy Winehouse, don't 897 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 3: set that on hip hop. 898 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: That's musical. 899 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 4: Additionally, traditionally music, especially white music, was in a dark 900 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 4: place and some of their biggest artists were putting that 901 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 4: ship on paper. I told Joe, but in a long 902 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 4: time ago, if Joe was white, Joe would have been 903 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 4: one of the biggest rappers in the world, because Joe 904 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,399 Speaker 4: is one of the first people to put down all 905 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 4: that dark shit, all that emotional and a fucked up 906 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: place shit that we look at like negative. He's a 907 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 4: weird though, but the masses go through that ship. We 908 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 4: just have not been taught that we can show our 909 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 4: vulnerability in a manner that Joe was doing. 910 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: Fifteen years ago. 911 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 3: But that's the thing. 912 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 1: But it made a quasillion dollars. 913 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 3: But back to where we're at, back to what the 914 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 3: conversation was. We highlight the drug dealing, we highlight fighting, 915 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 3: we highlight beef, We highlight all these negative things, and 916 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 3: we don't highlight being introspective. We don't highlight being educated, 917 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 3: don't I don't highlight a lot of things, Which is 918 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 3: where again, in terms of who we decide to show 919 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 3: up as if we see the highlight of and it's 920 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 3: what I said too about us immortalizing and making celebrity 921 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 3: out of drug dealers and mobsters. If we're highlighting all 922 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 3: the negative things about life, that's where we see people 923 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 3: wanting to lean into. We're not highlighting a lot of 924 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 3: the good things. 925 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 4: His original premise was if the Aliens came down, Yes, 926 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 4: if the Aliens came down, they don't have Universal Music 927 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 4: Group pushing the shit to them, But that's a dollar 928 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 4: behind it. The aliens would come down totally oblivious, without 929 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 4: any ulterior motive. You can't feit they gonna just grab 930 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 4: random shit. They're not gonna all of that shit that 931 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 4: you're talking about is still algorithmic. On the radio, they're 932 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 4: gonna play the same seventeen songs. Rhapsody have an album 933 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 4: come out. We don't hear that shit on the radio, right, 934 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying. So that don't mean that 935 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 4: it's not quality hip hop out here. Black Thought might 936 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 4: release project and if you're not a hip hop head, 937 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 4: you might not even know he have a project out. 938 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 4: So it's not because it's no money driven thing that 939 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 4: is put pushing Black thoughts to. 940 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 5: You. 941 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 4: We get talking about we talked about an alien coming 942 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 4: down from space. He's not commerce driven, he's not algorithm drive. 943 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 4: He's just taking his data from these people and process. 944 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: But to me again, and I agree with with Barry here, 945 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 3: it's what you're going to be fed. So let's take 946 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 3: it away one moment. Let's take it away from hold On. 947 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 3: Let's take it away from aliens. When you travel to 948 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 3: other countries, the music on the like, whatever you're consuming 949 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 3: is literally and we can say capitalism over commerce over everything, 950 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 3: and algorithm is literally what we are in as as 951 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 3: a globe. If you go to another country, the food 952 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 3: that's everywhere is going to be what's being pushed to you. 953 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 3: The music is what's pushed to you the. 954 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 4: Stay on food, taking off music because music has too 955 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 4: much money behind it and too much other forces behind it. 956 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 4: When you go to another country, yes, and if you 957 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 4: don't have any referrals, because algorithms are referrals. When you 958 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 4: walk out of your resort and something smells good, you 959 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 4: go there and you try it. Nobody referred it to you. 960 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: You try it. 961 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 4: If you like it, you like it. If you don't, 962 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 4: you don't go over here. You get some other ship. 963 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 4: You go over here, you get some other ship. And 964 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 4: then based on your seven day trip, you can say, yo, 965 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 4: Thailand don't have good food. But they're just making up 966 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 4: because I've never been. 967 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 3: I've been there five times. 968 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: All right, Yo, what I so what? 969 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 4: I just made up a place? Right, You say Thailand 970 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 4: don't have good food. Nobody told you go to blah 971 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 4: blah blah restaurant. You just are randomly picking things. So 972 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 4: the same thing can be said for music or anything. 973 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 4: If you don't have a referral and you go to 974 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 4: get the music on your own, then you'll come up 975 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 4: with your own assessment of what this type this was. 976 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 3: This was actually okay, good example because only because hear 977 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 3: me out what we're seeing what we're even seeing on again, 978 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 3: how we're viewing opinions. Right, We'll have thoughts on our 979 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 3: music the same day it came out. And now if 980 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 3: and if and if voices come on and say that 981 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 3: ship was whacked, that shit suck, people are gonna be like, yeah, 982 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 3: that'sh whacked that. And then let's go to food. We 983 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 3: have people now telling everyone these are the best things. 984 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 3: I'll never forget the goddamn Crumble craze. Niggas was al 985 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 3: here saying Crumble was the best thing ever. Cookies, these cookies. 986 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 3: So everybody was going to get the Crumble cookies because 987 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 3: they're like, these are amazing. It wasn't until they sat 988 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 3: there and tried it and actually were like, nah, these 989 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 3: ain't that great. But there was a craze around something 990 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 3: because everyone said it was good. Everyone should get. 991 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: It, and we are programmable to come for a circle. 992 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,839 Speaker 3: From there we go. 993 00:49:55,080 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 4: From the very start, iPhone is not better in the 994 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 4: sam sung out here we go. I'm just telling that 995 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 4: both of them look and I'm just telling you, but 996 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 4: the iPhone has been marketed. 997 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: It's popular. 998 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 4: Yo, you got a blue bubble green bowl, Yo phone 999 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 4: up because you got a green bubble. 1000 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: You don't want to give you no coucie. 1001 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 3: I'll give them some ship first. 1002 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 5: But every everything is advertisment. Everything is about influence and indeed, 1003 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 5: and even though we use the random example, you're not 1004 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 5: taking a single trip without going to continue to restaurant whatever, whatever, 1005 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 5: And it's literally, hey, what should I do? True? 1006 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 6: Know? 1007 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: You asked the concierge downstairs? 1008 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 3: Where should I go? 1009 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you guys have any hookah around here? Yo? Who 1010 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: is the good? Is that safe? Is it not safe? 1011 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 4: Which food is good? You'll ask somebody that's a referral. 1012 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 4: So that is an algorithm of sort. 1013 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 5: Media is the biggest And that's the only thing I'm 1014 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 5: saying and is progressed with you. That's the one thing 1015 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 5: they did say. It's pro grammable. That's the problem. 1016 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 3: How do we how do we then like to full 1017 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 3: circle this, How do we come to a place where 1018 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 3: even the listeners listening? How do people come to a 1019 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 3: place to form their own opinions? If we're leaning into 1020 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 3: algorithm commerce content over everything like what would need to 1021 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 3: be stopped or what should a person do to get 1022 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 3: them in a place where they can sit with their 1023 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 3: own opinions and know how to deliver them and engage 1024 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 3: with other people to have. 1025 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 5: The conversation thing. I'm gonna say, it's not easy. There's 1026 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 5: so many false voices out here, false sources. I could 1027 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 5: I promise you I could get them ai and create 1028 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 5: a book that's one hundred pages long that you would 1029 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 5: think is the most factual thing in the world. I mean, 1030 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 5: it's just the news. When that's like we were having 1031 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 5: a conversation about sports. They're not telling you about the sports. 1032 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 5: They're not telling you about the players, they're not they're 1033 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 5: telling you about the stories. They tell you about whose 1034 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 5: day you got married, how much is how much to 1035 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 5: sign it for? And they you know, you can't even 1036 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 5: tell me what place someone's in every division, who in 1037 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 5: the first place right now? So it's it's one you 1038 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 5: have to want to know it discermining your mind and determination, 1039 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 5: annoy it. Check sources for real, for real, and listen 1040 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:18,919 Speaker 5: to like minded and opposing don't let them bring don't 1041 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 5: let either side brain we talked earlier, don't just try 1042 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 5: to memorize and reg regurgitate collective thinking, selective thinking, what 1043 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 5: was it y'all used earlier? Where you just think it through? 1044 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 5: Does it make sense? To you. We watch a spy 1045 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 5: movie or a crime show, we think, did you see 1046 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 5: that little piece there? 1047 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: And I can tell it. 1048 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 5: Use that same thing when you're talking to people and 1049 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 5: when you're reading things like Okay, this is something. Hold on, 1050 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna make up my mind now I'm gonna 1051 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna look at them paying it's on the check box. 1052 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna come back to this. You don't 1053 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 5: do this. You could, I promise you. And this is 1054 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 5: respect to both of y'all watching it. Y'all may have 1055 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,320 Speaker 5: clearly seen just a headline and say it allowed to 1056 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 5: your big platforms. It's like, yeah, you're feeding it out there. 1057 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 5: That was I mean, it is what. 1058 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: It is. 1059 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 3: Not anymore. But back in the day the onion used 1060 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 3: to give me, which is even worse now. I feel 1061 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 3: like it's become harder to gather information with AI. There's 1062 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 3: so much AI that I see that looks real that 1063 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 3: you literally I'll be having to see people tell me 1064 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 3: it's AI. And I was like, there was like this 1065 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 3: this picture going around a little baby and like this 1066 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 3: little pink crop top with like bedazzles and these little 1067 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 3: tiny shorts, and that was AI. And I was like, 1068 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 3: mind you. My first thought was this nigga and I here, 1069 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 3: this is crazy and I made an opinion on it 1070 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 3: based on the picture and then went into things and 1071 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 3: it was an AI photo. Apparently those blue based photos 1072 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 3: too of him doing a split in jail. 1073 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 5: Those are a I that's where it's. 1074 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 3: Dangerous. 1075 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 5: I thought exercise for everybody. Everybody mother thought exercise. Give 1076 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 5: it some Just look at any homepage, scroll down. 1077 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: You know. 1078 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 5: All they have is like a little quick mole stores. 1079 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 5: And the ones that catch all your attention because they 1080 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 5: always say the source, just pay attention. One giveaway if 1081 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 5: you see the word add because they have to put 1082 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 5: that there now. But then the other ones look at 1083 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 5: the source some strange name, well and you just dot 1084 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:26,760 Speaker 5: hullabaloo dot com. 1085 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: They got. 1086 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 4: Say con sources on the show because that was the 1087 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 4: real thing. And one thing, yo, where you're getting from. 1088 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm not gonna lie the sports ship the 1089 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 3: sentel be Yeah, it's crazy, yo. 1090 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 4: Lebron James now moved to Miami Heat. 1091 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 3: Like that's the good thing about using AI the right way. 1092 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna hold you, y'all know ch e bt 1093 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 3: is my husband Grock on Twitter is my side, Nigga, 1094 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 3: I love some grock because you will literally at groc 1095 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 3: and be like, yo, is is this true? Where did? 1096 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 3: Where is the source from? What? What is what happened 1097 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 3: after this video? And sometimes he got he get it 1098 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 3: wrong sometimes, but there's a lot of times where he 1099 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 3: goes he can pull from the entire internet and let 1100 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 3: you know if something is real or not. And I 1101 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 3: appreciate using those I appreciate AI like those sources being 1102 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 3: at my fingertips. You just have to know how to 1103 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 3: utilize them. And again, you have to be open to 1104 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 3: not believing the first thing you see. You have to 1105 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 3: question everything. 1106 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 5: You almost can believe nothing nowadays, nothing believe a video 1107 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 5: if you weren't in the room. 1108 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 3: Just see there was a there was a video recently 1109 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 3: of a whole bunch of like mermaids they said, in 1110 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 3: an ocean, and it looked real. It looked like somebody 1111 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 3: captured it from their balcony. And I'm like, yo, you 1112 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 3: can do anything with fucking about. 1113 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 4: Where we're going, three of us sitting right here. They 1114 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 4: could put us in Memphis robbing a bank. In fact, 1115 00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 4: they have our audio where they could be like you 1116 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 4: youga get down on the ground, give me all your money, 1117 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 4: your country asking you fuck nigga. 1118 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's crazy. 1119 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 3: No, I know they can have you. Black people. 1120 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 5: Reparations love those tools, and we tried to help out 1121 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 5: with content a few times. It's dangerous amount. Joe talk 1122 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 5: to that that ship is scared. I mean, just to 1123 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 5: use men as example, he probably has twenty thousand hours 1124 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 5: of his voice being out there. They would more than that. 1125 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, way more. 1126 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 5: But it wouldn't even just be close. That's how it 1127 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 5: would be. 1128 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 3: Identical, Yeah, identical Cadence and all. 1129 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah dog they Beanie Seagull is rapping again. 1130 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 7: I mean, not only that my uh D album where 1131 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 7: he's yes the train he's rapping, but I did any 1132 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 7: in his voice so it could sound like DLC before 1133 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:47,959 Speaker 7: the not. 1134 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,720 Speaker 3: Only that My Homegirls. There's an app that she uses. 1135 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 3: She's a lawyer. Shout out to my friend Jasmine if 1136 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 3: you need a lawyer. She she has to go through 1137 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 3: cases like and it gets boring. So there's an app 1138 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,879 Speaker 3: where she'll put the case in it and it could 1139 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 3: be Snoop Dogg Gwyneth Paltrow reading the case to her 1140 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 3: in a voice that she wants to hear like an 1141 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 3: audio book that's more pilling. And I was like literally, 1142 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 3: and I was like, but like knowing that she's consuming 1143 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 3: content this way and that it's not and that it 1144 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 3: and that it's not snoop like you know what I mean, 1145 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 3: knowing that these people could read her cases in a 1146 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 3: way that is digestible, that she can consume. And I'm like, Yo, 1147 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 3: this is crazy. This is crazy, and no one wants 1148 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 3: to hear snup Dog readcases. I listened to it. 1149 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't good. 1150 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 3: Those words were big. It didn't sound natural coming from 1151 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: suit Dog. I'm just saying no, no, no, I like su Dog. 1152 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 3: I want to hear dog. I'd rather sup Dog give 1153 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 3: me recipes for my high ass than read a court case. 1154 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 3: That's all because Gwyneth Paltrow read it really nicely, Like 1155 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 3: I like, Gwyneth, Here we go, here we go. Don't 1156 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 3: do that. I rather not the black man. 1157 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 5: Jesus. 1158 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 3: I can't say anything. I can't say anything. 1159 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: That will not be seventy seven times. I bet you 1160 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: that much. 1161 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 3: We're not gonna do that. That is not what happened. 1162 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 3: You're exaggeration. And this is the other thing. When you 1163 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 3: say something enough times, you start to believe it. He 1164 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 3: genuinely believes this was clipped up that many times. And 1165 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 3: that's another problem with people. If they say things enough times, 1166 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 3: they believe it to be fat, they believe it to 1167 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: be true. And that's not the case either. 1168 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 4: Objectivity, It's just not true, you know what. 1169 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 3: Anyways, I would love our audience to form their own opinions. 1170 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 3: Would love to know where you've seen people lack in comprehension, objectivity, subjectivity. 1171 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 3: We said a lot of words today, a lot of 1172 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 3: big words, most of them right, I do I do 1173 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 3: good over here, over here, horrible to. Cities will be 1174 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 3: a little tricky, be a little tricky because we get 1175 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 3: into the libido and ship like that, you know what 1176 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 3: I mean? And I used to say liberto. It's the words. 1177 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 3: It's like I did say, Look I show dig it 1178 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 3: is Orlando. Stop putting me in for it buyers. Anyways, 1179 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 3: it's where can people listen to you a lot of 1180 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 3: times a week? 1181 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: Patreon go sign up? 1182 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 3: Look at you. 1183 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 1: So proud. 1184 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 3: As y'all know. You can watch full episodes on the 1185 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 3: with Mandy Bee channel on YouTube. Make sure you get 1186 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 3: the book No Holds Barre and doing Manifesto Sexual exploration 1187 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,919 Speaker 3: and power available wherever you get books, and also really 1188 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 3: really really excited if you were in it that uh 1189 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 3: you know, in a year, y'all can get soft cover. 1190 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 3: This was this was sent to people to read it beforehand. Anyways. Also, 1191 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 3: if you are in Atlanta, you can now listen to 1192 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 3: me every Saturday hot on seven nine off the clock 1193 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 3: with your Girl and Jazzy T. I don't know how 1194 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have so much things to talk about, but 1195 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 3: I really love my segments over there. We get into 1196 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 3: this is America, which is my political segment, and then 1197 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 3: celebrities say the darnis things. So I get to really 1198 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 3: get into what these celebrities out here saying because everyone 1199 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 3: has a microphone. No never, but y'all could check me 1200 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 3: out every Saturday six to eight if you're in Atlanta 1201 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 3: on Hot one O seven nine starting this week, So 1202 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 3: y'all check that out. Congratula, thank you, Oh my god, 1203 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 3: I got the baby, and I'll be streaming too, so 1204 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 3: y'all go ahead and join me on the stream. I 1205 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 3: don't know, here's the thing. I would love to make 1206 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 3: more money just being at home. I really, I mean, 1207 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 3: I think that's the American dream is that not the 1208 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 3: American dream working from home or it's not easy. And 1209 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 3: that's another thing. This is not easy. This is not easy. 1210 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 5: Lucky we done, Yeah, we're done. 1211 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 3: We're not doing that. This is not this is not 1212 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 3: a king is what we do easy? 1213 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 5: Hell? 1214 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 1: And from the outside I used to think that, But 1215 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: what what what the thing is? 1216 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 7: Work is it becomes working. So what we do is 1217 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 7: easy in the sense of our skill set is the easy. 1218 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 3: I don't they talking and having an opinion is an 1219 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 3: easy skill set. You talked about how people don't have it. 1220 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,919 Speaker 1: But we have responsibility too, right because we we. 1221 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 3: I genuinely with with again comprehension, objectivity, subjectivity, all the 1222 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 3: things what we just spent over an hour discussing, Right, 1223 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 3: I don't think people understand how difficult it is to 1224 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 3: a have a stance and opinion, express that part with 1225 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 3: multiple people and take in knowing that people are going 1226 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 3: to critique what you're saying. What we actually do this skill. 1227 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,919 Speaker 3: A lot of people can't talk, a lot of people 1228 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 3: can't be vulnerable, a lot of people can't share their experiences. 1229 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 3: This skill is difficult. And then to come in week 1230 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 3: in and week. 1231 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: Out, sometimes twice. 1232 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 3: Androids don't have d and dying and so it's so George, 1233 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 3: I think it's easy to listen. Yes, I don't think 1234 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 3: it's easy for what to do. 1235 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 5: Hard. I'm not lowering any of your body skill sets. 1236 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 5: I think it is harder to be excellent than to 1237 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 5: do it NBA world. That's why. So don't don't take 1238 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 5: it as I'm shooting at you. You can learn to 1239 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 5: play basketball in elementary school. That doesn't mean you're gonna 1240 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 5: be Jordan, doesn't mean you're gonna be Lebron. 1241 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 4: Yes, good so, but you wouldn't You wouldn't call basketball easy. 1242 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 5: I would call it's all about your competition and your 1243 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 5: level of excellence. Basketball by itself is easy. 1244 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: It's not. 1245 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 7: No. 1246 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: You're taking you're taking a thirteen to fourteen inch ball, 1247 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: shooting it ten feet high and putting in it in 1248 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: running and millions of doing it around the world every 1249 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 1: and millions. 1250 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,439 Speaker 3: Of people speak speak every day every day. 1251 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 4: To be to be compelling, to be provocative, to be humorous, 1252 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 4: and get your concise point across to millions of people. 1253 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: It's not easy. 1254 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 3: It's not an easy thing. 1255 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 5: And I know you'll always talk about music artists that 1256 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 5: fall off or even one hit wonders. They could have 1257 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,439 Speaker 5: made a hit and it may have been easy, hard 1258 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 5: and maybe been their life story. But we always say 1259 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 5: the second one and the third one is harder. It 1260 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 5: doesn't mean that you didn't have the skill to do it, 1261 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 5: it's just it's still just level was consistency of being 1262 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 5: great is the hard. 1263 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 4: But that's that industry, the buttons getting pushed for your single, 1264 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 4: who wrote. 1265 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 5: Every It doesn't happen for everybody, and some people just 1266 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:37,439 Speaker 5: hit cool. 1267 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 4: And to your point, if it was easy, they would 1268 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 4: replicate it. Anything that is easy anybody can do easy. 1269 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 4: If it was easy, everybody would have a mic in 1270 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 4: front of their face, making millions of dollars doing it. 1271 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 3: It's not easy. 1272 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 4: To sit here and talk instead of sitting in two 1273 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 4: hours of rush hour traffic going to be a fucking accountant. 1274 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 4: Do you think anybody the account That's why I said no. 1275 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 5: Do you work harder than everybody who works on your construction? 1276 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 4: Me? 1277 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: No? 1278 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 5: From what with? 1279 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,520 Speaker 4: Let me take that back from a physical perspective or 1280 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 4: a mental perspective, because they're different, and we confuse it too. 1281 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 5: I'm saying the podcaster versus the person that claims that 1282 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:27,959 Speaker 5: ladder takes it that. No, we're saying that's what I'm saying. 1283 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 5: It's not universal, it's not. 1284 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 4: I'll ask you a specific question, or the question was 1285 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 4: from a physical perspective or a mental. 1286 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: Perspective, that was my question. 1287 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 5: I would say physical. 1288 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: No, I don't take that same person. 1289 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 4: They can't generate business, they can't write out contracts, they 1290 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 4: can't manage resources, which are time, manpower, money, and material 1291 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 4: to make this engine run to be profitable. You might 1292 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 4: be able to spackle a wall better than I ever could. 1293 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 4: You might be able to tile a bathroom better than 1294 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 4: I ever could, But you don't have enough skills to 1295 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,919 Speaker 4: put money in your own pocket week in and week 1296 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 4: out like I did, like I can to make a 1297 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 4: payroll every week, to have a staff that you have 1298 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 4: to pay every single week and generate revenue for them. 1299 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 4: Most Americans don't understand. 1300 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 3: I agree, and that's why when people, when podcast consumer consumers, 1301 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 3: play down how much work actually goes into being able 1302 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 3: to have a podcast. 1303 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 5: It's I'm level saying that against all the jobs that 1304 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 5: I'm aware of. I'm not. You're looking at podcasts failed 1305 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 5: successful big market small markets. If you're chalking within the box, 1306 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 5: then it's just about what you're doing. If you're literally 1307 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 5: talking to the construction guy. Everybody has different roles. In 1308 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 5: different roles comes with different returns on investment, different responsibilities, 1309 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 5: different risks, and depending on what you're using as your 1310 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 5: measuring stick, there's a jillion jobs that are harder than this. 1311 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 5: It's not to say that you're not doing the work. 1312 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 5: It's not that you didn't bring your life experience to it. 1313 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 5: It's not that you know if that harder. 1314 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 3: Again, it's subjective, it's a. 1315 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 5: Subjections, a subjective then things can be higher or lower. 1316 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 3: Because even you're bringing up construction and the physicality of it. 1317 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 3: But even that, even that, do you know how physically 1318 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 3: draining it is to to speak all day, to to 1319 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 3: operate in a in a in the brain capacity that 1320 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 3: is necessary to hold on engage with multiple people, Like 1321 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 3: the way we talked about investmentst was physically draining, like 1322 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 3: mentally draining because of all the people there. Mind you, 1323 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 3: you're talking, talking all day, talking with other people, receiving information, 1324 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 3: having to spew out your thoughts with the quickness, and 1325 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 3: then that going out to the world, and mind you, 1326 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 3: there's a there's there's a part of the pod, just 1327 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 3: sitting on it, and then there's what me and Joe 1328 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 3: do and running the team that delivers it every week. 1329 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 3: There's so much that goes into this. This is and 1330 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 3: I say it too. Doing the audiobook, this was one 1331 01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 3: of the hardest things I've ever had to do. You 1332 01:06:59,280 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 3: don't understand. 1333 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 1: To you, like an audiobook in your country. 1334 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 5: Don't do that. 1335 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,920 Speaker 3: We're not gonna do that. This is my book, my bucket, 1336 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 3: My book is read and my voice. But no even 1337 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 3: that after a couple hours, you know, like when you 1338 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 3: get a when you get a tattoo, you can only 1339 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 3: sit for so long because your skin starts to bleed 1340 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 3: when you when you are rate, literally air goes into 1341 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 3: your stomach. You start burping, you start your eyes start 1342 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 3: getting blurried from reading words like, being able to do 1343 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:27,160 Speaker 3: this is difficult. 1344 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: It is very difficult. It's really borderline insalting. 1345 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 4: How somebody would be like, Yo, that shit ain't work, 1346 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 4: my nigga, I work in a warehouse and I'm lifting 1347 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 4: fifty pounds backs all day. 1348 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: To be honest, you lifting the fifty pound bells of hey. 1349 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 4: It's easy as fuck because it's no thought that goes 1350 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 4: into that, and no disrespecting nobody that works men your labor. 1351 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 4: But yo, there's no thought in the going to that 1352 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 4: you unloading the ups truck right, you going getting some 1353 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 4: ship boom boom. 1354 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Now your back will take the toll. But the mental 1355 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 1: stresses that come along with somebody. 1356 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 3: I was even when you work in the office, yes, 1357 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 3: you can sometimes disconnect completely and do everything you need 1358 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 3: to on your computer. If you're in construction, you got 1359 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 3: a job to do. Right When I was just in 1360 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 3: La Me and Weezy, we we knocked out. It was dumb. 1361 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 3: We knocked out like ten episodes in three days. We 1362 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 3: finished the episode and immediately my body depleted socially and 1363 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 3: I needed a breather, and I was like, damn, I 1364 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 3: have to. I have to show up and perform right 1365 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 3: now in a way that the audience wants to enjoy it. 1366 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 3: My co host feels like I'm listening and I'm here, 1367 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 3: and I mentally wocked out. I wasn't present, and I 1368 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 3: was like, I was like damn. She was like, well 1369 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 3: you want to, and I was like, no, bitch, we 1370 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 3: got a guest coming. I can't just clock out right now. 1371 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 3: I have to. And I had to remove myself five minutes. 1372 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,520 Speaker 3: I only have five minutes because we're in the studio. 1373 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 3: This is and I was like, fuck, I have to 1374 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 3: turn on and be in a space that humanly right 1375 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 3: now is hard. 1376 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 4: And that's what I learned from Joe. That shit is 1377 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 4: life going on for everybody. Motherfuckers think that life, don't. 1378 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 3: That is so hard, Yo. 1379 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 4: You could be going through some real ship with your mother, 1380 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 4: your baby, mother, your kids, your school, your health. Niggas 1381 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,639 Speaker 4: could be having real health issues. 1382 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 1: But when that might come on, Joe, Joe promise, look, 1383 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: let's go no live, we start. 1384 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 4: We started around ten thirty eleven o'clock and Joe could 1385 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 4: be in a shitty mood right so we could tell 1386 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 4: when you. 1387 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Dog when parks go. 1388 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 4: Jo, Yo dog, my boy can cut it when I 1389 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,559 Speaker 4: say cut it on like somebody hit a switch and 1390 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 4: another person just jumps, and it's like yo, because again 1391 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,600 Speaker 4: this the gig is the gig gig, and so yo, 1392 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 4: the four million listeners don't give a fuck about what's Look, me. 1393 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 1: And Joe got into it recently. 1394 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 4: You watched the show where I had mad personal shit 1395 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 4: going on in my life, and it's like, yo, dog, 1396 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 4: if you could see it right, because I was coming on, 1397 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,679 Speaker 4: I wasn't being as vocal as possible like I used 1398 01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 4: to be, and and everybody knew what like something's wrong 1399 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 4: with him. 1400 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 1: It happens to everybody, it does. But when you're the 1401 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: catalyst that's moving, it can't happen to you. Nobody gives 1402 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 1: a fuck about your bad day. The sponsors don't give 1403 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: a fuck about your bad day, the audience, but they 1404 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 1: now want you off your job. They want to remove 1405 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,679 Speaker 1: you from the show that you created. 1406 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 5: The thing is but let me be clear. I didn't 1407 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 5: say either one of your jobs were easy. 1408 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 1: You did say that. 1409 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 5: No, No, I said it's not the hardest job in 1410 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 5: the world. 1411 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: You said easy rewind. 1412 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 3: We're doing the rewind here selective bigness too. I need 1413 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 3: you to pull up, go back to him. 1414 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 5: Saying I put both of you across the room, across 1415 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 5: the table from from two elementary school teachers. I think 1416 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 5: you're saying hard is going to be a different conversation. 1417 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 5: Y I'm just saying, but do you it's just to 1418 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 5: acknowledge that, yes, your job is hard. 1419 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna minimum the teachers right right, Yep, my nigga. 1420 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 4: Using the same lessons plans from last year, ya less. 1421 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 3: Money and you can't talk about the money like the 1422 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,520 Speaker 3: teacher to the doctor right. 1423 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 5: Like we're not the teacher year of the year. 1424 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 4: The funding is no, it's fine, but all of it 1425 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 4: talking about the ease of the job. 1426 01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 1: And and and I agree with, I know this book 1427 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 1: the back of my hand. 1428 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 3: I agree. I agree with is that it becomes an 1429 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,679 Speaker 3: insult when the consumers, the listeners, and anyone who doesn't 1430 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 3: do this day in the day out believes that what 1431 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 3: we do is easy in anyone and anyone can do it. 1432 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 3: It's an insult because that's not the case. 1433 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 5: I definitely don't think anyone could do it. 1434 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,839 Speaker 1: Anybody can run the ball all make another one. 1435 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:50,639 Speaker 3: That when you get the voices, No, I just I would. 1436 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be paying y'all money every month if if 1437 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 5: y'all weren't doing your. 1438 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 7: Job at the level he's telling y'all to shut the 1439 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,520 Speaker 7: fuck up because he contributes to patient. 1440 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 3: Bine. 1441 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 1: We got it. It's cool. Don't press me too hard. 1442 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 3: Curious. Well, look, I love that you y'all got some 1443 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 3: y'all got some extra long episodes these last two weeks. 1444 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go feed these country brothers real quick. Yeah, 1445 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 3: this one was over an hour too. 1446 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 1: Whoa ho. 1447 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,680 Speaker 3: See, don't do that just for four hours. I'm not lucky, y'all. 1448 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 3: In for ten hours. I ain't got one point five 1449 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 3: million dollars to split between twenty. 1450 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 5: Niggas work eight hours every day. I understand we wanted 1451 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 5: to talk about it. 1452 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 1: You know what. 1453 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm not ship and it's okay. Everyone knows it, y'all. 1454 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,759 Speaker 3: This has been another episode of selective ignorance for curiosity, lives, controversy, thrids, 1455 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 3: and conversations matter. We will see y'all next week. 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