1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ, Bucky 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: back together? Buck? How you doing? Man? Met him great? 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm great. DJ had to make a quick little trip 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. Had a chance to have a one on 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: one with Calvin Ridley, the first time that he actually 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: talked to people, and so it was great to catch 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: up with him, having known him as a youngster, but 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: then to kind of see him kind of come out 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: of this this dark period. It's great to catch up 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: and it's really good to see him. All Right, we 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta have to UH, we're gonna have to 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: clip off some of that and we're gonna put it 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: in the next and the next pot because I'm looking 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: forward to hearing that conversation. Where can everybody that's listening 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: to us right now find it? Um, So they can 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: go to Jaguars dot com UH and see it. We 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: put it on the Jaguards UH main channels, but they 19 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: also can go to YouTube and find the Jaguars channel. 20 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: It's on that. And then we did some stuff on 21 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Total Access last night that included the feature. So it's 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: everywhere it was a good conversation. I love it, um 23 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: so be on the lookout for that and again one 24 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: of the but it's gonna go down as one of 25 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: the best acquisitions I think in the last year for 26 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: what they got him. Pennies on the dollar, a legit 27 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, throwing him in there with Trevor 28 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: and company, that's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a 29 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: fun team to watch going forward with the Jacks. A 30 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: couple things are gonna hit on today. Buck. We're gonna 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: do the defensive recap from the combine we did the 32 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: offense the other day. If you've missed that, go back 33 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: and listen to that one. We're gonna talk about some 34 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: of the Lamar Jacks and stuff that's going on as well. 35 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna start off here. New Top fifty. I 36 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: just dropped that one today. It's out You can find that. 37 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it's NFL dot com slash 38 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Top fifty or something like that. You can find. It'll 39 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: be out there. But in terms of sliding the players around, Buck, 40 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: we've talked about it before. This year for me, more 41 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: movement through the process than I can ever remember. I 42 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: think it's because everybody's so equally graded that watching a 43 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: little more tape on guys, getting a chance to see 44 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: him in an All Star setting, seeing the workouts at 45 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: the combine, finding out from buddies, the interviews, you know, 46 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: thumbs up, thumbs down, all those things make for a 47 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: lot of movement on these boards as we are coming 48 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: down the home stretch here. Yeah, DJ I think is 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: really a reflection of the class. I think this class 50 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: is loaded with good, maybe really good players. I don't 51 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: know if we have any great prospect. We're used to 52 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: seeing the Miles Garrets of the world, the Jamar Chases 53 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: of the world, guys that are dominant players at the 54 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: top of the board, that they're transcendent quarterback Joe Burrows 55 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: and those kinds of guys. We don't necessarily have that. 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: I think we have more questions on the guys at 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: the top, which is probably why I think you could 58 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: probably conservatively say maybe fifteen to eighteen guys would carry 59 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: consensus first round grade. But that's far fewer than we 60 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: normally see in a draft. Normally you get eighteen to 61 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: twenty four guys that everyone says, hey, these are first 62 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: round guys. I think there's more uncertainty about the first 63 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: round talent, but it's really loaded when it comes to 64 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: the second and third rounds, where you're confident that there 65 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: are a lot of Day two guys that can come 66 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: and make contributions, no doubt out. I want to hit 67 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: you up with one question on this and then we'll 68 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: get moving because we got a lot of ground to 69 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: cover today. But I ended up moving. We talked about 70 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: it a a little bit the other day, Anthony Richardson into 71 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: the third quarterback spot, Levis in the fourth quarterback spot. 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: But I had this thought, and you remember when we 73 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: talked about this before, but when when Hurtz was coming out, 74 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: and that was the name that was in my head, 75 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: and just gosh, just feel like we're low on this guy, 76 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: like he's gonna he's gonna be a good player. There's 77 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: too many things in his favor to me. Henn and 78 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: Hooker is that guy in this draft where you just 79 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know if your spidy senses, if 80 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: you feel it like the tingle in your fingers, and 81 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: you're like, man, I think I'll bet on him. So 82 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: I had this conversation with somebody with the team earlier 83 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: this morning and it brought up a good It brought 84 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: up a good conversation. I said, Okay, your children's lives 85 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: are on the line. I don't like doing that to you, Bucky, 86 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: but we got to in this discussion children's lives on 87 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: the line. We got to win a game tomorrow. The 88 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: game is tomorrow, and we're assuming everybody's healthy. Would you 89 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: trust Henn and Hooker or would you trust Will Levis 90 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: in that game? Hennon Hooker is the easy one for me, 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: DJ He's the third best quarterback in my top five, 92 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: even with the injury. I have him behind TJ. Stroud 93 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: and Bryce Young then as Hendon Hooker. When I look 94 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: at Hendon Hooker the morn that I watched him to morrow, 95 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: fall in love with his game and what he could be. 96 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: We talk about in this process. You would love to 97 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: hit home runs, but a lot of games have been 98 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: won with doubles, and I think he's a double. I 99 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: think he's right in between center in left field. You're 100 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna turn the corner, You're gonna stand in no second 101 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: with a stand up double. I think this guy is smart. 102 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: I love his attributes. The experience matters because everyone is 103 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: going to be looking for the next brought purity type 104 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: and the one thing that we can say it happened 105 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: with Kenny Pickett as well as brought purity and some 106 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: of these other guys that got on the field right away. 107 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: That experience matters, the number of total snaps, the number 108 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: of a Your ability to play this game over and 109 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: over and over at the collegiate level certainly helps. And 110 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker's experience and maturity. I think it's a huge advantage. 111 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: Is why I believe he'll be very successful in national football. 112 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: All right, So let me let me pose you a 113 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: couple questions here about hend and Hooker, because I'm with you, Buck, 114 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: and I get that sense that you know I put 115 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: him in my top fifty. I moved him up just 116 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: a spot or two in this up in this last update, 117 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: but he is my project between now and when we 118 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: do the next one is sometime early in April. The 119 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: next update, I'm going to go through and watch every 120 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker play. I haven't had a chance to just 121 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: go all the way through, but I want to go 122 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: all the way through because I feel like you, I 123 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: feel like this is the guy that's that's got a 124 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: chance to be a really really good player that we're 125 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: that personally, I'm you're on him. I'm I'm low one him. 126 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: I feel that. So but I want to take take 127 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: you down a little run of teams here, and you 128 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: tell me if you think that it makes sense for 129 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: them to take Henn and Hooker in the first round. 130 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: You're ready, Let's start with Tampa Bay at night eighteen. Yeah, 131 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: there's good Take Hannon Hooker or Kyle Trask. Oh yeah, 132 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I'll roll the dice on Hendon Hooker all day injury 133 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: and I'll take him all day in terms of how 134 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: he plays it. I believe he's a better player, better prospect. 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Mccl track. All right, so there's one for you. How 136 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: about with everything that's going on, and we'll see, maybe 137 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: they end up getting a deal done, maybe they play 138 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: on the tag with the Baltimore Ravens at twenty three. 139 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to be in a situation 140 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: where not only do we not with Lamar it's twofold 141 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: number one, not only do we not know if we're 142 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: going to have him long term, number two, even if 143 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: we do have him, he's missing games, Like we got 144 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: to have somebody that's really ready to go in there 145 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: and play. And I think, to me, Tyler Huntley is 146 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: a nice player. Hannon Hooker's is a much better passer 147 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: than Tyler Hunting. Never underestimate the change that will happen 148 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: with that offense with Todd munkin coming in and Greg 149 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: Roman departing. As much as they say they want to 150 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: keep the base the same, there's a way to be 151 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: a runs entry team with a more traditional passing game. 152 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: Hand and Hooker offers that. Also, when he's healthy, he's 153 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: athletic enough to do what we talk about a quarterback. 154 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: We only need a quarterback to get four or five 155 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: yards when he pulls it on the read options. That 156 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: is enough four or five times a game to make 157 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: the defense play on it. Ann and Hooker is more 158 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: than capable of being able to do that. So Yeah, 159 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: he would fit Baltimore. It also would help them. Plus 160 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: you're in an office of change if they want to 161 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I just I think that you can 162 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: make a strong argument there. Last one I'll give you 163 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: in the same ballpark. The Minnesota Vikings at pick twenty four. 164 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: They tried to do this a couple of different times. 165 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: They went with Kellen mom a couple of years ago 166 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily work out. Now you have Kevin O'Connell, who 167 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: is looking for a quarterback that is maybe more traditional 168 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: book is traditional and how he plays with the athleticism. 169 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: You have Kirk Cousins, but at some point you kind 170 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: of reasissialing with what Kirk Cousins is and what he 171 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: can do with this team. You got to find somebody younger. 172 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: This is a perfect opportunity for them to do it 173 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: because it's not the rush to get him on the 174 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: field the other team. I would include in that everyone 175 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: is trying to like connect the dots with Seattle and 176 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. Hooker could be the play because that second 177 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: first round pick they have, they have the luxury being 178 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: able to Richard him behind Gino Smith. I'm not saying 179 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: that their games are the same, but there's some similarities 180 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: between Geno Smith and Hooker stylistically when you're look at 181 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: the way they played the game in college. So my 182 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: point is to kind of sum up the hend and 183 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: Hooker conversation. Even if let's say you stack your board 184 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: and he's say he's thirty nine, say he's forty five, 185 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: you're seeing it right now with Jalen Hurts. The difference 186 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: between having that fifth year and that fourth year, you 187 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: get to ride that You get to ride the cheap 188 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: train a little longer in the first round on a quarterback. 189 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: So if you're thinking he's a second round guy and 190 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: you're picking in the twenties, or you're picking you know, 191 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: and you've got a couple of first round picks, buck, 192 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: I mean, now you get a chance to Okay, you're 193 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: you're Seattle. Okay, we paid Gino for a year or 194 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: two here on this new contract. It's not a ton 195 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: of money. It's not a long term commitment. And then 196 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: we could be sitting pretty we're Henn and Hooker like 197 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: year three. Man, we could do what the Eagles did 198 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: this year and just stacked the roster around a cheaper quarterback. 199 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: It works, Jalen Hurts is success is going to help 200 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: more quarterbacks than a lot of us can anticipate. Not 201 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: only will you have people talk about the brock Purty thing, 202 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: but Jalen Hurts in terms of digging into the intangibles 203 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: and buying on the intangible qualities for a player getting better. 204 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: That helps with Hurts, we always knew there was a 205 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: level of maturity, professionalism a focus. He had all those things. 206 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: You saw it in college. When you talk to people 207 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: who know Hooker, those are the same attributes that he 208 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: has displayed during his time first a Virginia Tech, but 209 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: then in Tennessee. He is the wild card of the group, 210 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: the one that when he gets picked, people may be 211 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: surprised that he goes a lot sooner than anyone anticipate, 212 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, let's get quick thoughts here. Daniel 213 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: Jones signs a contract. We saw that coming. I think 214 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: one aspect to that I don't think I've seen anybody 215 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: talk about, is you know, when you say, okay, man, 216 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: maybe there's a couple million more than what I thought 217 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: he was going to get. But by getting him done, 218 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: it allowed them to franchise sa Quon, And I think 219 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: if sae Quon got to the market, I think that 220 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: number is probably more fourteen fifteen range for say Quon Barkley. 221 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, well, we'll just take a couple 222 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: of the million bucks we were gonna have to pay, 223 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: say Quon if you would have got to the market, 224 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: and we'll just give that to him. And now it 225 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: balances itself out, is what I'm getting to well, it 226 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: balances itself out and depending on if you're say, Quon, 227 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: do you really want to leave the Giant now if 228 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: you have the franchise tags ten million dollars, So now 229 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: you have to negotiate off that number. So maybe it's 230 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: a three year, thirty six million dollars deal if you're 231 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: the Giant and you're okay with that, because twelve million 232 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: dollars kind of like be going right for those top 233 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: running backs, and because of the injury history, the Giant 234 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: certainly would be okay with that. It's just a matter 235 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: of Aquon gonna be okay with that. I know he 236 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: doesn't want to go into the year plan on the 237 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: franchise tag. You never want to get into that year 238 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: rental status when you're running back. So it probably puts 239 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: the odds more in their favors so they can get 240 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: a long term deal done with their running back. Yeah, 241 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: and the Daniel Jones thing put a pin in that 242 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: one and finalize it. It's you know, two years, I 243 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: believe the forty a year, but the third year, if 244 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: you look at it, I believe it drops way down. 245 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: So really, this is the way contracts work, right, If 246 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: you're the agent you can talk to the player and 247 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: you can feel a win. Hey we got forty a 248 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: year for two, and if you're the team like thirty 249 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: seven five for three, we feel good about that. You know, 250 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: like everybody can win. That's the old thing in negotiation. 251 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: You can come up with ways that everybody can win. 252 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: Which gets me to my next question to you, Lamar. 253 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: Not having an agent, there's nobody to massage that message, 254 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he just saying, look, 255 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: I want this guaranteed money, and you don't have an 256 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: agent to buffer that and say, look, this is guaranteed money. 257 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: But instead of just giving you three years at one 258 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, they're giving you six years with Dumby 259 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: years on the back. But you're still getting the one 260 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: fifty guaranteed. It just everybody wins. We get our one 261 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: fifty and they get to spread out the cap costs. Yeah, 262 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: that's the nuance of it, DJ, because what you said 263 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: is ultimately quarterbacks want a short term deal because he 264 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: has to understand the big contracts are coming. When people 265 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: talk about James and Hurst's potentially getting well over fifty 266 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: million dollars if it goes you have to think if 267 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm a team. I want to be on the front 268 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: end of this movement and then the back end. And 269 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: so if you structure the contract with Lamar Jackson where 270 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, let's be able to get out of 271 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: this after three years, you know, because if you talk 272 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: about him being really adamant about the guaranteed money, Okay, 273 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's go three for one, twenty five, 274 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: one thirty, whatever it was, whether you guarantee it or not, 275 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna get all of it. You want to be 276 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: able to get to the next contract. So whether it 277 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: was six years with avoidables at the end or like 278 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: that poison peel where you have to get out of it, 279 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: you want to be able to get another crack at it. 280 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: I understand the trepidation of injury and those things, but 281 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: hopefully his game is evolving so he can play long. Anyway, 282 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: if he continues to be a run heavy guy that 283 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: was doing what they were doing previously, it was gonna 284 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: be hard for him to get another contract beyond this one. Anyway. Yeah, 285 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: now it's it's an interesting one. Will follow that one along, 286 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: by the way, real quick, you're not buying all this stuff. 287 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Everybody's freaking out about all these teams saying they're not 288 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: in on if this is not this is gamesmanship man, 289 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: like I'm not buying that. You could say you're not interested, 290 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: But why would you want to come out and say, yes, 291 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: we're interested, man, we're all interested. Let's drive the price 292 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: up as high as it can go. Of course you're 293 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna say you're not interested. Well now, because I saw 294 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: Tom Kella Serrow's tweet where he talked about the two 295 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: day window. You cannot negotiate with franchise players until March fifteen, 296 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: so no one can talk to Lamar Jackson right now. 297 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: Why would you say you're interested? Why would you say 298 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: that that? I felt like sometimes that we look for 299 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: a reason to get angry and upset, and I'm sitting 300 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: here going like, guys, step back. This is not that. 301 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: This is gamesmanship. This is I don't want to let 302 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: everybody know that we're in Oh, I really, you know, 303 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: I really like my cards. I really like him. You know, 304 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: like this how you play poker, man, It's not how 305 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: you play poker. And also we know you don't want 306 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: to be the first one at the table. We know 307 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: for sure Jalen Hurst has to negotiate a deal. You 308 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do my deal before he does his. Yeah, 309 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: you know it is in my best interest to wait. 310 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Also with some of those teams, like the Miami Dolphins. 311 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins needs to wait until after the draft 312 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: before they can jump in. They jump in, they don't 313 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: have it once. They have to wait. So some of 314 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: this is like, oh, we can say that, but yeah, 315 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: let's let it play out. Don't need to have all 316 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: the anger, don't need to have all the other stuff. 317 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: But if anything, he should look at the Daniel Jones dealing, 318 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: like kay Dan Jones telling I know exactly what that 319 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: is because you can't compare me to him based on 320 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: my accomplishment, and then you continue to build it. The 321 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: big thing will be is Lamar Jackson really stuck on 322 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: the fully guaranteed money. That is the thing. And I 323 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: think one of the things that people don't talk about 324 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to that is I don't need the gear. 325 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: See money that's doing. It's how much money has to 326 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: go and escrow right away. Yeah, the Hadmans can do 327 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: it because shoo, they just bought up a chunk of 328 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee butt. I know, the loose change. People never 329 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: talk about how liquid they are, so that is that 330 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: is a big part of it. Yeah, you don't want 331 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: to give the play of that too. You got to 332 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: have the cash to put away right now, and so 333 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: we'll see how he goes. Yeah, well, let's revisit that again. 334 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: If we get to the start of the season and 335 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: he makes it through this whole off season and he 336 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: gets no nibbles, then we can have some of those 337 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: conversations people are having now. I just think it's a 338 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: little early. It's a little early to have that chat 339 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: at this point in time. Let's say a quick break. 340 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back again. We'll look on the defensive 341 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: side of the combine, takeaways, what we saw and uh 342 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: and standouts. We'll get to that right after this. All right, buck, 343 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: let's let's get to some combine chat. Here. We broke 344 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: down the offense the other day. You look at the defense. 345 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: If we look front up front on the defensive line, 346 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, you had some some crazy stands. Standouts Kalijah 347 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: can see you know, running were six seven at two 348 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one pounds out of bare from Northwestern 349 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: running a four four nine at two eighty two, which, 350 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know about you, but and 351 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: talking to folks around the league, that was the number 352 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: where everybody was like, come on, man, like this track 353 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: is either this track is really fast or the trigger 354 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: finger on the starter is really slow. But there was 355 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: a little bit everybody's a little bit suspect on the 356 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: numbers that we were seeing this year. Yeah, because I 357 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: mean it was a lot faster than we've seen. You're 358 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: talking about the track being that fast. It used to 359 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: be where you didn't want to run it in the 360 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: Athens because you're worried about it being slow. Now you're 361 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: seeing how fast guys are running. It's encouraging these workouts 362 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: though for the D line. And I don't know if 363 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: I told you this, had a conversation with John Fox 364 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: and John Fox at the comments, so we said, you know, Bud, 365 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: when I look at football now, the biggest mismatch the 366 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: D line versus the O line. The superheroes on the 367 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: defensive line are far superior athletes than the guys that 368 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: we're seeing on the old line. So it's not even 369 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: fair the guys that you're putting out there asking in 370 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: the past rush against these guys that don't have the 371 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: athleticism to deal with what they're facing. And when you 372 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: watch the combine play out and you see these guys 373 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: who are fastest all get out at two eighty plus 374 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, who have great first step quickness, burst 375 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: and all that, I don't know how you do it. 376 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a crazy thing that you're thinking about. 377 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: Thinking about Lucas van at the buzz that is associated 378 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: with him. You know, people will talking about him being 379 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: a worker bee off the line, and you know the 380 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: try hard theme narrative they may put on him. But 381 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: then you look up, he's another outstanding athletes. I just 382 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: think now you talk about the track or whatever, they're 383 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: just different dudes on the D line. And it makes 384 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: sense because I've heard you say this about the Philadelphia Eagles. 385 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: I heard Joe Banner talk the other day on Richards 386 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: and Show, and he was just talking about how the 387 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles model of quarterback and investing in the trenches. 388 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: If you get the trenches right, it makes the game 389 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: off oh hundred percent. And I think you mentioned Lucas 390 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: van Ess that could be their pick. That could be 391 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: their pick right there at number ten. He fits the 392 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: profile one they played with guys that work hard, tremendous motors. 393 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: Everyone on that defensive line, they play hard. So you 394 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: see that the mandy athletics and four step quickness and verse. 395 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: You see his ten split, You see how he gets off, 396 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: how he went through the drills in terms of turning 397 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: and changing direction. He's a guy. And it's funny because 398 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: there is some of that debate, like me, is he 399 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: really worth it? When you look at the stack production 400 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: athletics with great effort gives you a chance. Yep. A 401 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: couple other nuggets here. I thought Will Anderson had a 402 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: really good workout. I didn't think it was you know, 403 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: on like a Von Miller Miles Garrett type level solid. 404 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: You know, ran four six flat his arms just under 405 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: thirty four inches, way two fifty three. That was a 406 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: good workout. Tyree Wilson didn't didn't get a chance to 407 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: see him do anything coming off the foot, but Buck 408 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: got He's got almost thirty six inch arms at six 409 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: oh five five, so six five and five eights, two 410 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one pounds. You can see there's a lot. 411 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot to that, dude. Man, there's a lot 412 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: thing that duty. So that conversation at the top of 413 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: the board between Will Anderson and Tybree Wilson becomes really 414 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: interesting because now you look at Will Anderson and you wonder, Okay, 415 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: how much more am I going to get as a 416 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: pro versus You look at Tyree Wilson and you watch 417 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: the day and we can talk about it being big 418 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: twelve play not only intriguing physical attributes, superior length and 419 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: all that, and we've seen how that has been able 420 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: to work, but he's also a work to be off 421 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: the edge. That conversation might be a little more tightly 422 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: contested and debated. Then we might have anticipated hitting into 423 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: the draft process because we've heard about Will Anderson for 424 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: the last year and a half. Maybe somebody else is 425 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: the first pass rusher off the board. Yeah, No, I 426 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: think it's entirely possible. People lost their minds in that 427 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: last mock draft when I had him going ahead of Will, 428 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: and they're like, there's no way, Micha. Let's just get 429 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: to the combine. You just start hearing the it'll start 430 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: building them picking up. Now we'll see how it all 431 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: shakes out. But he's he's definitely in the mix. A 432 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: couple other nugs here Nolan Smith running four three nine, 433 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: come on man, and the Hassan Reddick was the comp 434 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: for me going through that process. He was excellent. You 435 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: saw his explosives jumped out of the gym as well. 436 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: It's a really deep group, man. I've got ten. I 437 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: got ten edge rushers in in my top fifty buck 438 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: ten of them, ten of them DJ and so it's 439 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: the draft that we talked about, like upfront edge players 440 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: being able to put it together. Nolan Smith is interesting 441 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: to me because he had a lot of buzz coming 442 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: into the season. You see him playoff the edge, had 443 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: the injury and you kind of like forget about him, 444 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and then you look at the stack production. It's not high, 445 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: but then you see the athleticism. I know some people 446 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: have talked about the Leonard Floyd comparison maybe in those things, 447 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: but remember Leonard Floyd didn't pop in Chicago, but he 448 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: popped in with the Rams and so it's taken Nolan 449 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Smith and putting them in a situation where he can 450 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: do things that played to a skill set. The Housie 451 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: Reddick comparison is great. You've never seen Nolan Smith kind 452 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: of get after the quarterback like that. I think you 453 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: have to have a plan for how you're going to 454 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: utilize him. But that athleticism gets freaky. You gotta find 455 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: a way to unlock that. Coaches to figure out. Remember Reddick, 456 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: it was like, gosh, is he you know coming out? 457 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Is he off the ball? Do you play him on 458 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: the ball? And they tried to make him jack of 459 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: all trades, and all of a sudden, they just said, 460 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: screw it, Let's just let this dude rush. I know 461 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: he's two hundred and forty pounds, but let's just let 462 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: him rush. And the guy goes out on second the 463 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: league in sacks last year. I mean, he's just continue 464 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: to put double digit sack here after double digit sack here. 465 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: He's a nightmare to block. Linebacker wise, Buck, I don't 466 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: think this is a great linebacker class. I don't think 467 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: we're going to see many of them go. In fact, 468 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: I think there's a very real chance we don't have 469 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: one go in the first round when it's all said 470 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: and done. But just anybody jump out to you there 471 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: in the group, No, don't better jumped out of me. 472 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: But I think we are in line in terms of 473 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: how we see the linebacker plays. There's that one in 474 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: my mind, that will probably pop in the first round 475 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: in terms of their talent equating two. Hey, this is 476 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a dominant first round player. I like Drew Sanders, 477 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: but look, I mean, it is what it is when 478 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: because the athleticism trans Simpson has great athleticism, but I 479 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: worry about the instinct in terms of that. And then 480 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the guys are good players, but I 481 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: don't think they're great players worthy of being selected in 482 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: the first round. The combined to me kind of verified them. Yeah, 483 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: no doubt. We get to the corner position again, one 484 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: of the deeper positions. Let's go through here. Let me 485 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: see how I'm I have got. I'm one, two, three, four, 486 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: or five six at least seven corners in my top 487 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: fifty and other candidates in the mix. I mean, I 488 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: think it's a really really good group of corners. You know, 489 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: it's interesting and talking to teams, you'll see. I know 490 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez is the one who combines the size, speed, 491 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: fluidity the best of all the top guys. If we're 492 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna say Porter Gonzalez Witherspoon, right, Joey Porter Junior from 493 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: Penn State, Christian Gonzalez from Oregon, Devin Witherspoon from Illinois, 494 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: But to me, I still think Devin Witherspoon's the best 495 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: football player. And then you're gonna have some people who 496 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: are gonna go with the traits and go with Christian Gonzalez, 497 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: and I feel like Porter Porter's number two for a 498 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: lot of people. I talk to people that have Witherspoon one. 499 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: I talk to people that have Gonzales one, but everybody 500 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: seems like Porter is that number two guys. I think 501 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: all three of these guys going to top twenty man 502 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: good player is the one that I had the biggest, 503 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Joy Porter, Julie. The reason I have concerns about Joy 504 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: Porter Junior is because of the reason why he might 505 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: not have worked out. I don't know if he has 506 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: a toolbox that will labana play another style outside of 507 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: bump and run, And if you don't have that, I'm 508 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: more likely to get the guy who has a more 509 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: rounded set of skills. You think about souls Gardener, even 510 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: though soft Gardener spent primarily most of the time knows 511 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: the nos playing press coverage, he could see on tape, 512 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: he could play off. He had that, and we saw 513 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: a play out for the Jet Porter doesn't have that. 514 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: When I watch him, he never backcuddles. He uses kind 515 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: of like that shuffle technique, and I worry about him 516 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: because of his length, him getting twisted up to me. 517 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: There are guys that are better overall with their skill sets, 518 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised to see him just tumbled 519 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: a little bit. Even though there are a lot of 520 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: people that like him. I think they're better players that 521 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: may get drafted behind him in terms of just how 522 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: complete their skill sets are. Yeah, I ended up with Witherspoon, 523 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: then Gonzalez, then Porter Deontay Banks, moving up Man from Maryland. 524 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: He ran five man, he was rolling, he was rolling 525 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: DJ going in like prior to the combine, taking a 526 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: look at his tape and just seeing the size length. 527 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: The athleticism still kind of, you know, like the funny 528 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: thing because I think you can lump. You can lump Joey, 529 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: Porter Deontay Banks and Elijash Ricks and all these other guys. 530 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: There's a collection of guys that are the bump and run, 531 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: long rangey type corner. Banks is that. But his athleticism, 532 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: if we're having that contest between him and Porter Julie, 533 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: he's a better athlete. You get a lot of the 534 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: same attributes, but he is a better athlete, and what 535 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: are you banking on him? There's not a lot of 536 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: ball production from either one. Normally, indies debate, you go 537 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: into more explosive, more dynamic athlete. Yeah, I wouldn't be 538 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: shocked at off he ended up going ahead of him. 539 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: You know, Brian Branch is a nickel. Some people again 540 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: we talked about a bunch of people have him in 541 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: the safety stack. I mean, he's gonna be a nickel. 542 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: He did not, and he ran four five eight, So 543 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to play outside at corner. 544 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: But he's just a really good player. Actually thought he 545 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: had a really good field workout, just didn't run fast. 546 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: Maybe the most intriguing one buck is Emmanuel Forbes. I 547 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: don't recall ever grading one hundred and sixty six pound quarterback, 548 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: much less one hundred and sixty six pound quarterback who's 549 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: almost six foot one has thirty two and change arms. 550 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: But he ran four three five. So when we look 551 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: at guys that have, you know, a glaring hole like 552 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: they're not you. We use the term in scouting clean 553 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: like he's not height, weight, speed clean. If you're not 554 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: clean in one area one of the rules, and I 555 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: think it's smart to live this way. Is you better 556 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: be exceptional everywhere else. Well, this guy's only one hundred 557 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: and six six pounds, and people say, oh, like people 558 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: were joking on social media, Oh, dk Metcalf, what did 559 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: he do to this guy? Blah blah blah blah blah. 560 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, it doesn't matter if he cuts 561 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: off the route, gives his hands on the ball, because 562 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: he's got elite speed, he's got elite length, he's got 563 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean elite, elite ball skill. He got the best 564 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: ball skills of anybody in the whole draft. Guy's got 565 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: six pick sixes in his career, so I get it. 566 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: He's probably he's not gonna go in the first round. 567 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: No one hundred and sixty six pound corners likely to 568 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: go on the first round. I'll tell you what. I 569 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: sure his crap would take him in the second round. 570 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: So he was funny. I love him. I haven't. He's 571 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: a great player, man, He's one of the most fun 572 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: players to watch the whole draft. I love him as 573 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: a player. And there's a thing for we know how 574 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: we talked about wide receivers with skills craftsman DJ There's 575 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: not a better player from off than Emanuel Fords. Emmanual 576 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: Foards I wrote down in my notes he reminds me 577 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: of Davian Howard in terms of the way that they 578 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: play cover zero at CB stayed, the way that he 579 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: plays and drives on ball. You talked about the six 580 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: pick sixes. To me, he is the perfect corner for 581 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: a Brian Florida's type defense. The problem is he's one 582 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: sixty six. That said I did not know he was 583 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: gonna run for three and that four three will make 584 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches change their mind. And so when 585 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about twenty five to thirty five, Emmanuel Fords 586 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: is coming off the board somewhere in there that that 587 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: bottom of the first round, top of the second round. 588 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: He is the first one. If he gets past day one, 589 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of the first ten players picked 590 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: in day two. On day two, the names I wrote 591 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: down when I watched him were samari Roll on Fred Smoot, 592 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: who were real skinny, slight guys that could play. Samari 593 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: Roll may be the one that there are only like 594 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: five pounds difference. I mean, there's not much difference from 595 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: weight wise. But samari Roll the first round pick, I 596 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think he was a second I 597 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: know he was a really good player. I know he 598 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: played for Jerry Grave for a long time with the 599 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: Titan Ram trying to put it up. See when he 600 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: gets drafted, Um, second round, So you're right, yeah, second round? Yep? 601 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: What pick was he book? Does it say? Uh, sixty 602 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: six overall? That's I mean, that's that's talking talking the 603 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: same language. If we go, if we go with the 604 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: beauty pageant, that's where he is. Forty six. Good player, 605 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: made it to the Pro Bowl. Was a really good 606 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: player for a long time. I was with him in ball. 607 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: It was a great player coming over from the Titans. Yeah, 608 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: a really good player, just a good player. So that 609 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: that was the comp that came out there. Again, we 610 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: had other guys role um DJ Turner ran four to six. 611 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Wish you would have done the workout after that, didn't 612 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Ringo ran four three six to be expected. Jar Tavis 613 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Martin I love the nickel corner from Illinois. He ran 614 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: four four six plenty fast enough. Terrell Smith from Minnesota 615 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: is a good player. He ran four four one Tyreeks Evenson. 616 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Maybe there was a little question mark there with his speed. 617 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: Four four five, I mean Jakorean, I mean when you 618 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: go on and on Jakorey and Bennett from Maryland, Julius 619 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: Brent had a really solid workout, didn't run its fast, 620 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: but jumped out of the gym. Riley Moss four four five, 621 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: Shamari Connor, who can play nickel, safety, corner, you name it, 622 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: he ran well. So it's it's a deep group. Man. 623 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: Like the first three rounds, you're gonna see a zillion 624 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: of these corners. They're gonna fly a couple of things. 625 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: I think maybe the memo has has been spread to 626 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: the high schoolers that we've talked about. We've been preaching 627 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: that DJ. When you look at this group, there's a 628 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: better collection of athletes in the dB room, the wide 629 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: receiver it significantly. Yeah, it's a more explosive group. At 630 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: defensive back. You're seeing guys that are six foot or 631 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: taller run fast, Guys who actually have skills, who are 632 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: not like late conversions, guys that just made the switch 633 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: in college. Because of that, there's a better product that 634 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: is being produced defensive back now than in the past. 635 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this group, even though we might 636 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: not have the soft gardener the top five pick. To me, 637 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: this is a deeper group than we've seen in the past, 638 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: with more guys that can legitimately come in on day 639 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: one play and have success on the album. Yeah, and 640 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: you're right, man, we've been beating that drum and I 641 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: feel like we're finally making some we're making inroads. Buck, 642 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: We're getting we're getting some traction here because it used 643 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: to be I mean, you had wide receivers for days 644 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: and days and days, and you're like, man, just we 645 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: can't even we don't have a room on the board 646 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: to stackle these guys. And it was like, can anybody 647 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: play corner? Maybe we move some of those wide receivers over. 648 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: We want to try and convert some of these guys. 649 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: Not anymore. That's a good group, really good group. And 650 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: the other thing we're seeing guys with ball skills and 651 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: so like being able to turn the ball over is huge. 652 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: It's a huge nugget. But the size, the size and 653 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: the tackling it really matters. And so tem better tack 654 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: is not just the cover corners who are making business decisions. 655 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: That part is Look, it's important because we also are 656 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: seeing we're if you have a guy who can't talk, 657 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: it is hard to win games. It's hard to play 658 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: great defense with those guys, no doubt. Safety's real quick. 659 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: We'll wrap this up. Sydney Brown from Illinois had a 660 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: great workout him and his twin brother. He was two 661 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven pounds, ran four four seven. Jordan Battle 662 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: ran four to five five, which was a good time 663 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: for him. Tell you what. Antonio Johnson from A and M. 664 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: Everything I was told he was gonna run the mid 665 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: four six dude road four to five two. That's a 666 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: great time for him. Helped himself. You know that Daniel 667 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Scott from cow is a favorite of mine. He ran 668 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: four four five. He's gonna go in the third round. 669 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: The one that I want to talk to you real 670 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: quick about. And then we'll wrap this thing up. Jayar 671 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: Brown Penn State. I thought he's the best safety in 672 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: the draft. He's a former corner. He's a really good player, 673 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: he's got production. He ran slow amongst the group. He 674 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: ran four six five. Was not a good time for him. 675 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: But I would contend of the positions on defense, Buck, 676 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: I think safety's because your eyes are more important than 677 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: your speed than I think he's gonna end up being 678 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: a value pick. He's gonna get punished for the forty. 679 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna end up dropping. But I think whoever gets 680 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: him is going to get a really good player. And 681 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: if you run four to three and I run four 682 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: to six, but I'm two steps ahead of you because 683 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: my eyes took me there, that advantage is gone. The 684 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: other thing that he has in his bag, he is 685 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: a takeaway keeam turnovers, force fumbles, summer recoveries. He's always 686 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: around the ball. Those guys have a tendency to do 687 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: the same thing when they get to the pros. Yes, 688 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: the forty time will hurt him and made being him 689 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: a round, But the player that you're getting is another 690 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: plug in play player who's going to be a big 691 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: time performer and the right defensive defense. I could see 692 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: him playing for the Buffalo Bills, stepping right in and 693 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: having a contest that they've been having with Micah Hyde 694 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: and Jordan for you, for you, great call, man, that's 695 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: a great call and a great fit. All right, this 696 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: has been a jam packed episode today. It's been a 697 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: lot of fun. We are headed towards the start of 698 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: free agency, Buck, We're gonna be together. I believe up 699 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: in LA doing some shows together on free agency Frenzy. 700 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: They still call it that. I think Sunday, Yeah, I 701 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: think Sunday. I think Sunday, like we gotta really some 702 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: of that Sunday than I got to look my schedule. 703 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm on. I'm on the schedule on Sunday for 704 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: Total ACTI yeah, I gotta look at the schedule now. Um, 705 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: all right, this has been a fun one. I hope 706 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: you guys have enjoyed it. I love breaking this down 707 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: with Buck, and we'll be back again here soon with 708 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: with more draft content. We'll have the free agency Frenzy 709 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: for you. We've got all your needs covered right here 710 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: on Move the sticks.