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Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the

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Speaker 2: stories we're following today.

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Speaker 3: We want to begin this morning with an antitrust ruling

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Speaker 3: that threatens to upend the mobile app economy. A federal

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Speaker 3: jury in San Francisco has ruled in favor of video

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Speaker 3: game developer Epic Games, declaring that Alphabet's mobile app store

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Speaker 3: has a monopoly over distribution of programs and payments on

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Speaker 3: its Android software. Like Apple's App store, Google Play charges

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Speaker 3: up to thirty percent commissions for users, and it generates

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Speaker 3: close to two hundred billion dollars a year. Bloomberg Executive

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Speaker 3: editor Peter Elstrom says this was a surprise ruling after

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Speaker 3: Epic lost a similar case against Apple two years ago,

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Speaker 4: Google had a whole series of special deals that it

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Speaker 4: was cutting with different companies from different fees within the

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Speaker 4: app store. For example, Spotify, the music service, essentially bypass

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Speaker 4: the fees from the Google App Store. In many cases,

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Speaker 4: companies pay thirty percent fees. So the argument was that Google.

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Speaker 4: Google had something that they called Project hug where they

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Speaker 4: them in the Google Play Store, and Epic argued that

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Speaker 4: this was at a competitive behavior.

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Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Peter Elstrom says Alphabet plans to appeal the decision.

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Speaker 3: Epic didn't seek financial penalties, but it is looking for

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Speaker 2: Well, we turned to Washington, now, Nathan, where the focus

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Speaker 2: is on geopolitics and the fight over a foreign aid

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Speaker 2: in Congress. Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelenski is in Washington for

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Speaker 5: Process war on Ukraine isn't just about Is it just

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Speaker 6: It's not just Moscou trying to split Europe again. It's

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Speaker 2: And President Zelenski also met with the head of the

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Speaker 2: International Monetary Fund, A christ Alina Georgiaeva, who announced the

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Speaker 2: today with President Biden and Republican lawmakers. They refused to

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Speaker 3: Well, Karen, the focus is also on the other major

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Speaker 3: global conflict in the Middle East. President Biden is warning

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Speaker 3: The President is still backing Israel's fight.

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Speaker 7: As I said after the attack, Mike, commitment to the

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Speaker 3: President Biden spoke at a Whinehouse Honkka reception as his

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Nathan last Week's Congressional testimony over campus anti semitism

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Speaker 2: continues to Royal higher education. More than seven hundred faculty

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Speaker 2: members at Harvard University have signed a petition urging school

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Speaker 2: of President Claudine Gay. More than a thousand students at alumni,

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Speaker 2: including billionaire donors like Bill Lackman, are demanding this school

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Speaker 2: replace her, and this morning, sources tell the school's newspaper

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Speaker 2: After receiving backing from the university's highest governing body, Gay

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Speaker 3: Sticking with politics, the Supreme Court has agreed to hear

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Speaker 3: Special Council's twenty twenty election interference case.

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Zed Baxter has that story.

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Speaker 8: Special counsel Jacksmith filed the motion, saying it goes to

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Speaker 8: the heart of democracy whether Donald Trump or any other

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Speaker 8: filed an appeal that would go to win Appellet Court,

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Speaker 8: but Smith petitioned the highest court in the land to

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Speaker 8: these cases on election interference. Regarding mister Trump, Smith is

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Speaker 8: asked for the court to rule during this term, which

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Speaker 8: ends in June. Ed Baxter, Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, ed, thanks.

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Speaker 2: Elsewhere in politics, ousted former Congressman George Santos is in

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Speaker 9: Prosecutors say in a filing that they're engaged in discussions

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Speaker 9: Santos is charged with multiple federal counts of stealing public

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Speaker 9: funds and lying on federal disclosure forms. Two people tied

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Speaker 3: All right, Nancy, thank you. We have some major economic

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Speaker 3: news on the calendar this morning. The November Consumer Price

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Speaker 3: But Bloomberg Intelligence chief US interra strate Strategistyreg Jersey thinks

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Speaker 3: In Bloomberg, Syra Jersey says, even if headline inflation meets

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Speaker 3: to take a look at some of the other stories

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Speaker 3: making news around the world with Bloomberg's Amy Morris.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Amy, Good.

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Speaker 11: Morning, Nathan. Firefighters didn't find anyone trapped in the debris

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Speaker 11: of that New York City apartment building yesterday. Part of

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Speaker 11: the seven story building collapsed, leaving apartments exposed and walls

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Speaker 1: Neighbors are stunned.

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Speaker 2: Came from the top first and it just started falling

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Speaker 1: I just see a lot of stuff just flying down.

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Speaker 11: Fire officials say two people did suffer minor injuries while

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Speaker 11: they were evacuating the damaged building. After a poll last

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Speaker 11: week showed Mayor Eric Adams approval rating for a record

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Speaker 11: Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. Political consultant Ken Friedman

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Speaker 11: WABC New York the timing for Adams is just awful.

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Speaker 12: The migrant issue is a terrible problem for any mayor,

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Speaker 11: Frankly, some observers say it's the migrant crisis that's hurting

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Speaker 11: Adams more than anything else. Former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani's

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Speaker 11: defamation case is underway in DC. Giuliani had earlier admitted

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Speaker 11: he spread lies about two Georgia election workers, accusing them

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Speaker 13: if other people overreact, but everything I said about them

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Speaker 11: The hearing is to determine how much he owes for

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Speaker 11: spreading the lies about the women. President Biden last week

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Speaker 11: said he was willing to make significant compromises over border

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Speaker 11: policy now before Congress breaks for winter recess. Senate Minority

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Speaker 11: Leader Mitch McConnell told the White House in his Senate

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Speaker 11: floor remarks, it would be imperative for any other Senate

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Speaker 7: President when it comes to keeping America safe.

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Speaker 14: Border security is not a side show.

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Speaker 13: It's ground zero.

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Speaker 11: McConnell's latest push comes as Ukrainian President Voladimir Zelensky is

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Speaker 11: scheduled to address the Senate. Global News twenty four hours

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Speaker 11: a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News. Now,

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Speaker 11: I'm Amy Morrison. This is Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: Nathan, all right, Amy, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you

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Speaker 3: by Tri State Outy.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, John Stanshout, Good morning, Nathan.

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Speaker 15: The legend of Tommy Cutlet Stavino continues to grow.

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Speaker 1: It's quite a story.

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Speaker 15: Undrafted rookie quarterback latches on with his hometown team while

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Speaker 15: quarterback to first leads the Giants to three straight wins.

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Speaker 15: Last night, DeVito ran for seventy one yards and he

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Speaker 15: Surprising details emerging about the show Aotani contract with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 16: Sports from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager.

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Speaker 3: We could have a sea change coming to the way

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Speaker 3: we access the apps that make our smartphones more than

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Speaker 3: just phones. The federal jury in San Francisco has found

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Speaker 3: that Alphabet's mobile app store Google Play is a monopoly

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Speaker 3: after a nearly month long antitrust case with fortnitemaker Epic Games.

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Speaker 3: For more on this what it could mean for the

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Speaker 3: be joined by Bloomberg News technology reporter Mark Bergen Mark,

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Speaker 3: Good morning. What are the implications from this victory for

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks for this, Mark, really good to get

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Speaker 3: Place store. Mark Bergen covers tech for Bloomberg News. Now

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Speaker 3: let's turn to geopolitics and the rising stakes for both

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Speaker 3: Ukraine and its defense against Russia and Israel's fight against Hamas. Today,

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Speaker 3: And for more on all this, we're joined by Bloomberg

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Speaker 3: News Senior editor Derek Wallbank. Derek, I know you've been

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Speaker 14: Well, I think he's got a very tough job ahead

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're hearing some of the rhetoric from President

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