1 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Advice. 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Shoote. 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: It's welcome to the Naughty Ben Nice Sham. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: You host rump Shooter. It is Monday, which means our 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: dear friend Garrett Vogel joins us, Hey, Garrett, are you there? 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: Hello, Bob, I'm doing well fresh off the Oscars. I 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: liked it this year. 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: I like it. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: How about you? 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: I really liked it too. Let's jump into me. I 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: thought there's some really great moments. Conan O'Brien, first of all, 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: great host, funny, not too political, kind of serious, but 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: but also charming at the same time. I thought his 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: tone was just right. 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: What did you think? 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had the right tone to it too. And 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: it's funny. It's like, what what took so long? You know, 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: what had happened? You know? And and for him to 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: to you know, kind of just poke, you know, kind 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: of a little a little bit like you you know, 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: a little bit naughty, a little bit nice and uh 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: and and he was the right tone for last night. 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: I think absolutely. It was difficult too, with the fires, 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: with everything going on in the world, it's easy to 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: get so political, to get so angry. I thought he 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: was just fantastic. He made me smile from the moment 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: he stepped foot on stage. Also two, I thought it. 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Was terrific to open with Wicked. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: Now, if you have not seen it yet, a lot 30 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: of people assumed it was just going to be songs 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: from Wicked, but I think it was really lovely how 32 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: they tipped their hat to the source material, the Wizard 33 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: of Ours, the Wiz, and then Wicked. We have three 34 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: amazing musicals based on oz Oh. 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: I mean it was the my only gripe with having 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: the cast of Oz there. Yes, the cast of Wicked. 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: Yes they did win a few awards correct for costume 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: and design, but you put Cynthia Rivo Ariana Grandi in 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: the front row, first first row, and same thing with 40 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: Timothy Shallowy too, because you know they're going to be 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: the biggest draw of them, and you do not give 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: any of them, any three of them an award. Last 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: night is just what to me, a little bit of 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: a like a political sleazy game of like, oh, they're there, 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: they could win, They're in the front row. 46 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Nothing nothing, nothing. 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: I think you make a point that when we talk 48 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 3: about somebody in the front row who didn't win, who 49 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: thought she was going to, I think we have to 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: talk about Demi Moore. So going into last night, everybody 51 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: at my oscar party, everybody that was in my little 52 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: oscar pool had Demi as the shore winner. The New 53 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: York Times had Demi or the press, Variety, the Hollywood Reporter, 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 3: all the trades. Everybody had told Demi she was going 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: to win. I think she thought she was going to win, Garrett, 56 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: what a surprise. Now, if you don't know who did win, 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: her name is Mickey Madison. Brilliant young actress in Anora, 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: which really won the most awards of the entire evening, 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: So she was deserving. She's a brilliant young actress. I 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: was dazzled by her performance. But sentimentally, I think I 61 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: wanted Demi to win. 62 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: I think we did too. But it isn't that the 63 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: Oscars in general, though, where we want somebody to win 64 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: and it's never the case. Has there ever really been 65 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: a time where it's like a unanimous like, yes, finally, 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: it's always that person that you never expect, right, you know? 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: And I guess that's the beautiful yet crazy thing about 68 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: the Oscars, you know that we kind of it's almost 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: like we want them to change, but they'll never change. 70 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: To an eye you know, will never change. We want 71 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: each other to change. 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: That's the truth. 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: I think it's complicated here because a friend of mine, 74 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: a movie friend of mine who I spoke to last night, 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: who was at my party, actually we watched it together. 76 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: He said, you have to remember is that it is 77 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: about thank you? Yes, it's about excellence, not emotion. So emotionally, 78 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: Demi Moore, she had this amazing story in her sixties, 79 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: has never been nominated for anything. In A friend of 80 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: mine who's quite brutal, but you're not gonna like this, 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: but there's some truth to it. So she's not being 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: nominated because she's just not a very good actress. She's good, 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: but she's not a great actress. And I was like wow, 84 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: And he's like, Mikey Madison is a really really Meyerl's 85 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: type talent. So I think as an audience member, we 86 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: get caught up in the emotion of this and who 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: we love. And we've watched Demi for gosh, fifty sixty years, 88 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: fifty years at least on screen on TV. We love 89 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 3: Demi Moore, my goodness, she was in Ghost. However, that 90 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: doesn't make her the best at her craft. We have 91 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 3: this with musicians too, Garrett, don't we People that I love, 92 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: who I listen to their pop music all the time, 93 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: are never gonna win a Grammy. It's just not who 94 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: they are. And I think you can distinguish them. We 95 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: can still love Demi, but we can also admit too, 96 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: maybe if we really think about it, if we put 97 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: the emotions to one side, maybe not Oscar winning worthy 98 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: this year nominated. Yes, but I felt bad for her. 99 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: We do know we had a lip reader, or at 100 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: least the New York posted. When Demi lost, she turned 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: to her manager, who was next to her, and said nice. 102 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: And I see that's all she said. Nice. She did 103 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: manage to recover them and started quickly clapping. Although, would 104 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: you go to the after parties if you were Demi? 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: Would you go home? Would you go out afterwards? What 106 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: do you do? 107 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: You can't? I think you just go home at that point, 108 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 2: you know, And it's unless it was our first time 109 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: in Hollywood. She's been to the parties, she's seen the parties, 110 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: and all you need is everyone going, oh, I'm so 111 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: sorry you that's what's gonna happen. I'm so sorry. 112 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I saw or at least a friend of 113 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: mine in the room. I had reporters in the room 114 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: last night. They said Meg Ryan was the first person 115 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: to comfort Demi. Meg went over and hugged her and 116 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: they had a little moment together. It's tricky, isn't it. 117 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: You know they say just being nominated is enough, and 118 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: normally I do think that is the case. But when 119 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: everybody tells you you are going to win, everybody yeah, 120 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: and you don't. 121 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: Gosh. 122 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what about Kieran Colky's warning actor He 123 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: gets up on stage calls his wife out for now 124 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: they're to have a fourth child. I mean, do you 125 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: think they went home last night and like, all right, 126 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: let's get right there. 127 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: I had a little kiss. I wouldn't be at all surprised. 128 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: I find him just charming. He just makes me giggle. 129 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: I could do without the F bombs. I don't like swearing. 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: You know that on the show, but I just find 131 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: him just so naughty. 132 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: I really ever hear you curse? I try not to 133 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: podcast never. I don't like you and I just chatting. 134 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever heard you curse. 135 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: I don't like it, so that's just myself. But I 136 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: think he's just charming. We have to point out too, 137 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: before we move on the fire fighters reading jokes. I 138 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: think Conan came up with this bit and it was 139 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: so funny and so naughty and so delightful. 140 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: It really they were great too. 141 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: It's hard, Garrett, you have a lot of friends who 142 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: are comedians. It's hard to deliver a joke, to just 143 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: have and they delivered. 144 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: Yea their tembo they're timing, I mean they had they 145 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: could have bombed tremendously and they was still would have 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: had a standing ovation. That was one of those things 147 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: where it's like you could not do no wrong if 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: you were a firefighter in that room last night. I mean, 149 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: and plus probably most of those firefighters there tried to 150 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: salvage or save any type of homes of those people 151 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: in the room. You know, that's the weird part too. 152 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: It's like coming full circle of now you know you're 153 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: trying to save people, and now you're being honored on 154 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: their night. And you know, at first I thought, you know, 155 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: the oscars were a little bit tone deaf when they 156 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: first announced that they were going forward with the oscars, 157 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: But I think with time given it wasn't that much 158 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: far of a time away from the wildfires. I think 159 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: it was done in a proper way where it didn't 160 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: feel like it was too like, you know, Hollywood stuffy, 161 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: you know, up to the up, you know. I think 162 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: it was the perfect tone. And I think, yeah, you 163 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: had anybody else, maybe Jimmy Kimmel would have been able 164 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: to do it since he is in LA but I 165 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: don't think anybody else, you know, did great the same way. 166 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it did a great job, and he really set 167 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: it up, he explained, he was really honest about it. 168 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: Why we do these award shows and they're not just 169 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: for the rich, gorgeous, beautiful actors. There are thousands, hundreds 170 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: of thousands of people behind the scenes, cater as, costume designers, 171 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: lighting directors, who earn their living. They're not rich people. 172 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: They're middle class people who work really hard and love 173 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: the art of film and this is their craft. And 174 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: so I think Conan did a great job about that. 175 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: The only person whose tone I thought was a little 176 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: off was Adrian Brodie. He would for a second time 177 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: and really was sort of like grand in taking his moment. 178 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: Now everybody knows that they get it's very short, just 179 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: forty five seconds, but you know that, and the award 180 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: circuit is a circuit. He's been doing this for months. 181 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 3: He's been going to different award shows making speeches. 182 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: He knew he was going to win. 183 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: Prepare your speech and be respectful because if you if 184 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: you go along. Let's just put it like this, people 185 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: are like, take your moment, take your time, it's your moment. No, 186 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 3: you're going to take minutes away from somebody else. It's selfish. 187 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: I thought it was really really self indulgence. 188 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Well, especially how he just you know, please stop, please stop, 189 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: and they actually stopped. 190 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: I did stop. 191 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: So I guess you need Adrian Brody to get the 192 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: orchestra to stop at all award shows because they never stopped. 193 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: They never stopped, you know, they continue. And the fact 194 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 2: that he goes, I won't be egregious, and then he 195 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: went on, you weregious, you were and went on for 196 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: another four to five minutes. 197 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: They had to play him off again. That's the only 198 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: time an orchestras played someone I think off twice. A've 199 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: been a little disappointed, a little disappointed in you having 200 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 3: your moments. I know you deserve it, but it's more 201 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: than a moment. And he did say I won't be 202 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: a griecious and then he was People do that all 203 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: the time, don't know. When they're like, I'm not gonna 204 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: be racist, and then they say something called fault or 205 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be homophobic, but I don't like to 206 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 3: go something but here, I'm not going to be egregious. 207 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: That's our new phrase here on the show. Okay, let's 208 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: jump into as show. What time is it? My friends? 209 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: It is tea time. I know it's a lot of gossip. 210 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: Big story. 211 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: At the top of the show, Meghan Markle has shared 212 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 3: a new video of Princess Lilibet. This time she's playing 213 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: with her auntie Serena Williams. All beautiful. However, however, Meghan 214 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: did capture it, reminding everybody that in just three days 215 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: her TV show starts. Some people are saying, Meghan, you 216 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: have screamed privacy, privacy for a really long time, and 217 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: now just three days before you lead us to watch 218 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: your TV show, now you're suddenly using your daughter, promoting 219 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: your daughter to get viewers. I can see the backlash. Year, 220 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: I can see why this is probably not a good move. 221 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: What do you think, Oh yeah, well, without a doubt, 222 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: But you know what, I also think that Meghan Markle 223 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: can sneeze, and everyone will find a problem with the sneeze, 224 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: you know, like she cannot win no matter but even 225 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: if she is wrong, she still can't. Like she makes 226 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: it worse, even worse for herself. You know, every time 227 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: she tries to do anything, I would just stay inside. 228 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: If I was just staying inside wherever you are, and 229 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: you know, skype and FaceTime with people and just you know, 230 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: do some instacarting to get some food. 231 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Megan, she can't. 232 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: I do think she doesn't help herself. Like many things 233 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: that Meghan does really great things. She can do charity work, 234 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: and she's gonna have people who don't like her. However, 235 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: even people that like her, like myself, even people that 236 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: are fans of hers, and I know lots of people 237 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: really do like it. 238 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: They're like, oh, Megan, the timing gear of we've just 239 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: seen your daughter and you've been so private about Lilliburton. 240 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: Now with her auntie Serena Williams, you bring it out 241 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: the big guns and then having the hoodspur to actually 242 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: put in the caption three days until the party begins. 243 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 244 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: Which brings us to our pole. Question of the Day 245 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: Meghan Markle has dropped a rare video of Princess Lilibert 246 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: just three days before her TV show debuts. Do you 247 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: think she's using the baby to get us to watch, 248 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: or at least to get us to talk about it? 249 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: I think we all know the answer. I know I 250 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: don't want to admit it, but I think we know. 251 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: Okay, if this poll isn't one hundred percent, I don't 252 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: know what is. 253 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Go vote on our Twitter page. 254 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: Acknilty, guys, Well about facebook page is naughty gossip and 255 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: be sure to check back to your results. 256 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Take caret Love, What are you working on that? 257 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk a little. Wendy Williams, so, her ex producer, 258 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: just is talking about her guardianship and how terrifying it is, 259 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: which I think we kind of all knew, but when 260 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: you hear it from someone who is close to Wendy, 261 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: it kind of opened your eyes a little bit. More So. 262 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: Susan Bass is talking, and she she's been silent pretty 263 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: much this whole time that Wendy's been going through stuff, 264 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: but she says that Wendy reached out to Bass last 265 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: week in a shocking phone call, and you know, it's 266 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: like just like any friend that you're or a person 267 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: you are very close with, and you know that they're 268 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: going through something, you talk and tears will will flow 269 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: no matter what, just from from not hearing from them 270 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: and getting to talk to them for the first time 271 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: on top of whatever Wendy has been going through. And 272 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Susan said that you guys have been asking me if 273 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: I've heard from Wendy, and the truth is I hadn't 274 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: until last week, which she posted on her Instagram video 275 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: and she goes my phone, rang, it was Wendy. I cried, 276 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: she cried. It was fantastic. But beneath all of this, 277 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: the reality is Wendy's guardianship is nothing short of a nightmare. 278 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: It's a horrible guardianship. It's horrible, it's terrifying. And of 279 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: course she ended it off with the hashtag free Wendy 280 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: all the way, all day. And you know, I think 281 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: more people who can sound the alarm on Wendy's behalf, 282 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 2: the more eyes will be on it. I think there 283 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: are a lot of eyes on it. But you know, 284 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: let's have let's help Wendy out if we can. 285 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 286 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, God known Susan for twenty years. She used to 287 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: work on the Rosio Donald Show, and then she worked 288 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: on the on The Wendy Show for a decade. She's 289 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: the one that booked me on the show. I was 290 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: on the show twice a month, or maybe four times 291 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: once so week, and it was Susanne who always booked me. 292 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: She was Wendy's right hand. Now, the reason you might 293 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: remember her name is she was on camera. Wendy would 294 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: always throw to Susanne and ask her questions, and she 295 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: was she was almost like the what Kelly and Michael 296 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: had with Gelman. That's what Susanne was. And she was 297 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: a really good friend to Wendy because she didn't want 298 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: Wendy's money, she didn't want to go out drinking with hers, 299 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: she didn't want Wendy's name. She has two children, she 300 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: doesn't live in the city. She lives in the suburbs 301 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: with her husband, Brendan. And I was told, I know 302 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: this is a fact that Wendy often on weekends had 303 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: nothing to do, had no friends, and she'd go out 304 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: to Susanne's house and sit in her house with Susanne's 305 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: kids and play with Susanne's dog and play with her children. 306 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: And so of all the people around Wendy and there's 307 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: some good ones and some bad ones. Suzanne is the best. 308 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: There's no one better. Shamefully to the Sherry Shepherd Show 309 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: fired Susanne. 310 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: I know, I think we all know. They missed out. 311 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: They missed out. Susanne, you are a class act. We 312 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: texted last night and she said, Wendy sounds great and 313 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: it was lovely, lovely to hear from her. Okay, quickly, 314 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: before we get a break. This story made me scream. 315 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberg, who is not known as the most outrageous guy, 316 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: celebrated his wife Priscilla's fortieth birthday in a sequined jumpsuit. 317 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: So if you saw the Grammys, you saw Benson Boone, 318 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: or even if you didn't see the Grammars, you probably 319 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: saw a meme a photograph of Benson Boom in this 320 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: really really tight sequin jumpsuit. Well, Mark Zuckerberg use the 321 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: same suit. I'm not sure if it's exactly the same 322 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: one or maybe specially made. 323 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: It probably was. Those were rich people do that. 324 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: It looks really good. 325 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: It's exact same suit. 326 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: It looked good. It looked really good. 327 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: And he came out on stage for his wife's fortieth 328 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: and He was wearing a black tuxedo and just like 329 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: Benson Boom two assistants and ripped off his clothing to 330 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: reveal this wonsie, this blue onsie underneath. The crowd erupted 331 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: and he said, your wife only turns forty once out 332 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: a character delicious made me smile and nightmares. 333 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: It gave me night I thought he looked kind of cute. 334 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: It gave me nightmares, and it also made me think 335 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: like he's rounded by a bunch of yes people. 336 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: The man's a billion I would have said yes, Garrett 337 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: at my birthday party. That's what I want you in. 338 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: That's what I want. A reveal, a reveal. Okay, we're 339 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: going to take a quick break and we will be 340 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice. I'm 341 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: the host drum shooting with your dear friend, Garrett Vogel. Hey, Garrett, 342 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: let's get to the polls that are Last year we 343 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: took about Gene Hackman's death. 344 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: Now I've been. 345 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: Called suspicious by the authorities. Do you think foul play 346 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: was involved? Let's have a look. Sixty percent said yes, 347 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: And I know where you're going with this. There's something 348 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: off about it. Isn't there a dark his wife a 349 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: ninety five year old man passing away, that's not surprising, 350 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: but his wife to die in the sixties, the doctor 351 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: be dead. There's much more to this story. 352 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: Yep, No, there definitely is. And you know what's interesting 353 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: the internet sleuths in the in the medical world start 354 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, digging and diving into it. You know, Gene 355 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: Hackman had I guess some type of heart conditions. 356 00:16:59,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to pay. 357 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a pacemaker, So you know, depend depending 358 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: on at least what we've heard and what I've read 359 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: across the internet, is that possibly there was an issue 360 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: with the pacemaker and uh, you know, his wife, you know, 361 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: frantically went into the kitchen to grab something to to 362 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: help him, and she slipped and and that's why the 363 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: medications all over the place. And then you know, the 364 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: dog going a few days, you know, without any type 365 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: of food, and you know that caused that, and the 366 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: other dogs were able to, you know, get out the 367 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: doggy door and you know, survive. You know, so many 368 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: working theories. I don't you know, I think it'll still 369 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: be a little while before we find out. 370 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: But three four weeks, okay, don't forget to vote on 371 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: today's ball a page naughty nice Facebook page is thought, 372 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: He goes hip, it's sure to check back to ma 373 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: bra here your result said, Nah, it's time for our niciest. 374 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: Of the Well. 375 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: Thank you for giving me the nicest because I've dealt 376 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: with a week of naughties yelling at me for for 377 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: your story that you're going to be doing next. So 378 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: let's talk about Will Reeve. And he talked about the 379 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: heartfelt tribute to his late father, Christopher Reeve at his wedding. 380 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: So Will Reeve, you might see him on Good Morning America, 381 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: constantly looks exactly like his dad. He's getting ready to 382 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: say I do to fiance Amanda Dubbin, and he's making 383 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: sure that at the wedding that there is a great 384 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure a heartfelt tribute to his dad, Christopher Reeve 385 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: on his special day of course. And he says that 386 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: he's honoring superman, of course, because that's who Christopher Reeve was. 387 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: In case you didn't know, in a in a way 388 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: that his father's cufflings, he's gonna wear his father's cufflings 389 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: as he walks down the aisle. You know, he's still 390 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: planning to I'm sure there might be a little there's 391 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: gotta be a little s you know, underneath that that 392 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: wedding suit. You gotta think and and it just, you know, 393 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: for for such a family that went through such a 394 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: a very troublesome time with their their their husband and dad, 395 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: to see the positive that is coming out with it 396 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: from everything that the Christopher Reeve Foundation does, to the 397 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: positive stories that that they're now getting to tell of 398 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: their dad. And I'm sure there the wedding is going 399 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: to be no different and probably probably the most emotional 400 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: story we'll we'll see. 401 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: Of the day. 402 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, and nicest of the day. And notice 403 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: the day naughty. A judge of slapped down Blake Lively 404 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: in this ongoing lawsuit with Justin Baldoni. So Blake wanted 405 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: to get two years two years of all Justin's phone calls, 406 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: including calls with doctors, psychologists, personal assistance. A judges said, no, 407 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: that is too broad, it is too intrusive. So I 408 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: think Blake is going to refile this and make the 409 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: search a little bit more narrow. But I'm told if 410 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: she gets his phones, he's gonna get hers. This is 411 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: a mess for both of you at this point, I'm 412 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 3: not sure there will be a winner. In fact, I'm 413 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: pretty sure there's going to be two losers depending. It 414 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: doesn't even matter what our views of this is. That 415 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: said me, with a moment of rub you're stop waiting 416 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: and start now. The truth about readiness. One of the 417 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: biggest roadblocks to success is the idea that you have 418 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 3: to be ready before you begin. But here's the truth. 419 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: You're never going to be completely ready. Whether it's launching 420 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: your business, a digital project, product, or starting a big 421 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: life change, you're never going to be ready. Think about 422 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: it like having a baby. You can read every book, 423 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: take every class, prepare as much as possible, but nothing 424 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: actually truly prepares you, Garrett, you know, for the reality 425 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: of holding a tiny little baby. So figure this out 426 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 3: as you go, and that's how you will get success. 427 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: I promise you stop waiting and start now. Hey, that 428 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 3: is it for today. Thank you so much for listening. 429 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: So they're not even nice with Robin Garrett Show, a 430 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: production of iHeartRadio. Don't forget to subscribe on the iHeart 431 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: Radio appp a podcast wherever you listen, leave us a 432 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: review if you can. They really do help and remember 433 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: all together an hour. If you're going to be naund all, 434 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: take care everybody. 435 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: It's not nice with Rom