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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 2: I'll that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for day Edith State is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan

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Speaker 1: and Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal. Boys and girls,

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Speaker 1: my name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over

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Speaker 1: there and beautiful NYC my man. The one and only

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Dan Rubensteiny's back, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. This was sort of a surprise twos cruise.

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Speaker 3: We didn't plan on doing this specific episode as a

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Speaker 3: twos cruise, but I gotta tell you with I don't

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Speaker 3: know what we're comparing it to the Queen Mary, the Titanic.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully hopefully not the Titanic, hopefully.

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Speaker 3: Not the tell Well, maybe somebody may be the Titanic

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Speaker 3: in this game, but I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 3: Because today's show is dedicated to the National Championship matchup

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Speaker 3: between LS you and Clemson, and I guess Matt Rule.

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Speaker 1: Leaving for the Caroline.

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Speaker 3: I don't know we're actually gonna spend time talking about that,

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Speaker 3: but my heart is beating.

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Speaker 1: My blood sugar feel super out of watch. You said

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Speaker 1: when we connected up that you were feeling a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a blood sugar spike. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just I do feel a good amount of excitement

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Speaker 3: about this matchup. That is that is honest to God,

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Speaker 3: the truth you're.

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Speaker 1: Getting the I am.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching both of these teams. I think probably

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Speaker 3: LSU more so this season because of their the games

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Speaker 3: they actually played and the opponents that they had. But

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Speaker 3: it was a pleasure to watch both of these two

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Speaker 3: teams in the UH in the semi finals. But I

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Speaker 3: just I also, I don't know. I mentioned this on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: but I got even more excited watching There's a YouTube channel.

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Speaker 3: It's run by a guy named Murph Baldwin.

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Speaker 1: I sent this to you. Yeah, yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 1: top Billin. He's coming on in the offseason. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: know it yet, but we're gonna invite.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't know it yet, but he does a fantastic

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Speaker 3: job doing x's and O stuff with college football. So

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Speaker 3: if you like that sort of thing with video, top

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Speaker 3: Billin is the move to make. But that got me

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Speaker 3: even more excited about this matchup. So here we are tie, Here,

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Speaker 3: we are are here, We are welcome.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 1: Welcome all now if you're just joining us for the

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Speaker 1: first time. Yeah, I'm Ty, He's Dan. We did three

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Speaker 1: episodes every week all throughout the season. We had Tuesday episode,

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Speaker 1: the one that dropped on Tuesday, we called the Twoes Cruise.

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Speaker 1: Normally we would do Sunday and Wednesday. Sunday we'd recap

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Speaker 1: Wednesday or I guess Thursday we would drop the show.

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Speaker 1: We would preview the coming week's games. But nestled in between,

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Speaker 1: we had a little show we called The Twoes Cruise,

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Speaker 1: which of course was cheesy in that it was very

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Speaker 1: nautically themed, but we committed, we fully committed Marty Smith

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Speaker 1: style to the bit right and alas we could think

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Speaker 1: of no better time to do another Twos Cruise then

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Speaker 1: on this very special occasion. It is the bull Barge, right,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're calling this. It's sort of an abbreviated

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an abbriev all. I don't know how long

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Speaker 3: the show's gonna go, but yeah, we're still sticking with

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Speaker 3: the bull Barge. And I suppose we have a sound

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Speaker 3: that we do like if you want to play it now.

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Speaker 2: Well, now, DOCR New Orleans for the National Championship. If

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Speaker 2: you believe in the Bye Bengals, she's exit fur Side.

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Speaker 2: If you believe in Domos Boys, he's exit Starbard.

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Speaker 1: Here's the Dark Horn. There's the Dark Horn. So it

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Speaker 1: is one of those fun matchups where both are the Tigers.

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Speaker 1: If you want to be cheeky about it and pick

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Speaker 1: the Tigers to win, mm hmm, by all means, go

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Speaker 1: for it. We're gonna do our best here over the

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Speaker 3: If for only one more episode, Yes, can we I

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Speaker 3: think this is an old radio term, but can we reset?

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Speaker 3: I want I want to start from the beginning because

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Speaker 3: these two teams have had very different paths to this point,

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Speaker 3: neither better nor worse. But I want to start here.

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Speaker 3: What was your opinion of each of these teams preseason

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Speaker 1: Well? The LSU one is is far easier because headed

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Speaker 1: is going to revamp its offense. We had heard time

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Speaker 1: Clemson's offense against this defense, but the offensive component on

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Speaker 1: Clearly that has been proven wrong, and good for them

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Speaker 3: I am right there with you and that you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we've heard this before, that they're modernizing, that they're trying

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Speaker 3: They went undefeated if I wanted to be one hundred percent,

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Speaker 3: But the fact remains that you're just like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: I get it. They did it against Vanderbilt, they did

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Speaker 3: I just I came away so impressed and wanted to

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Speaker 3: maybe there were those weeks, but the fact remains, I'm

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Speaker 3: still much more impressed with what they did before the

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Speaker 3: how they played against LSU. I don't think that is

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Speaker 3: the most important takeaway game from the Tigers, but just

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Speaker 3: for them to be at this point, to be led

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Speaker 3: it's such a new way of talking about this program.

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Speaker 3: That I'm thrilled to have underestimated this team going into

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am as well. I'm looking back on my

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Speaker 1: LSU was just that they went nine to three, won

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Speaker 1: good year last season despite an offensive line that drastically underperformed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they basically had to remix their offense on the fly

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Speaker 1: specifically again offensive line would be able to improve. It

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Speaker 1: has improved, no doubt about it. The offense as a

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know we have a question later on where we're

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Speaker 1: but let's shift gears if we could, to the Clemson

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Speaker 1: but prior to this season, they were defending national champions. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: That was the conversation, Alabama Clemson, come and fight me.

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Speaker 1: If you don't think it's one of those two teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Alabama Clemson. Everybody else? Have these two

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Speaker 3: it four straight years? Like some it had become a

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Speaker 3: Is this a sport that is now whittled down to

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Speaker 1: The talking points on my side of the Clemson argument. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot to replace. You can't recover from that

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Speaker 3: And while it is obviously cliche to say nobody believes

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Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily looking at it in terms of underdog

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Speaker 3: just more data. It's on LSU maybe no matter how

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Speaker 3: So I think John Q public has an LSU story

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Speaker 1: Does it matter?

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Speaker 1: That was such a good transition. You're just such a pro.

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Speaker 1: Does it freaking matter? Clemson has a good pass rush.

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Speaker 1: Yes, will it matters. So we've got a whole list

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Speaker 1: ls's offense by and large is so good that a

431
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Speaker 1: lot of it won't. But certainly some of this will.

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Speaker 2: It has to.

433
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it first and foremost. Dan Clemson probably

434
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Speaker 1: prepared a lot more for LSU than they did for Oklahoma, right.

435
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Speaker 3: I would imagine. So, yes, the advanced scouting probably heavily

436
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Speaker 3: leaned toward LICO LS.

437
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Speaker 1: You probably had to split up their advanced preps. So

438
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Speaker 1: the question would be how much does that how much

439
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: does that matter? How much does that factor in here?

440
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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting, but I don't think it matters.

441
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: I think Brent Venables is so good on the fly

442
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: at diagnosing and communicating that to his team that ultimately,

443
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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's anything that LSU can do

444
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: that will catch them off guard that they haven't seen.

445
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: But the skill lies in their ability on the fly.

446
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Speaker 3: So no, I don't think it matters.

447
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Speaker 1: Fully, I would agree with you, and I would add

448
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Speaker 1: the point of Alabama and Clemson. What we've seen from

449
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: them amid this incredible run preparation has certainly been very important.

450
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Speaker 1: We hear about it all the time as we watch

451
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Speaker 1: college football, and the dedication in the hours that assistant

452
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Speaker 1: coaches and head coaches put in on this, the adjustments

453
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Speaker 1: almost matter more. Yeah.

454
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Speaker 3: By the way, if you haven't read it, and they're

455
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Speaker 3: not a partner of ours anymore right now, Andy Staples

456
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 3: and Bruce Feldman wrote pieces with Clemson and or I

457
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: guess regarding Clemson and LSU speaking to opposing coaches who

458
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Speaker 3: coached against them this year anonymously. But a lot of

459
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 3: really cool insight if you really want to deep dive

460
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: this game.

461
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Speaker 1: So I think it matters, but I think adjustments are going.

462
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Speaker 2: To matter more.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Another bullet point, Joe Burrow has not had to

464
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Speaker 1: go wired to wire on a stage quite like this, has.

465
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Speaker 3: He No, and Trevor Lawrence has Now, it's not Joe

466
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Speaker 3: Burrow's fault that LC was so incredible against Oklahoma that

467
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Speaker 3: he really hasn't been in this pressure type of situation though.

468
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Speaker 3: SEC Championship against Georgia, you know, playing Alabama, playing Auburn,

469
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Speaker 3: playing Florida the way, those are huge stages. This is

470
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Speaker 3: just something different. This is non sports fans, This is

471
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Speaker 3: non college football fans. This is in the Superdome, which

472
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Speaker 3: is again I don't think it's on our bullet point list,

473
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Speaker 3: but I think that's interesting because LSU has sort of

474
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Speaker 3: recently played in a national championship at the Superdome and

475
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Speaker 3: it didn't goes super well.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. I think it's.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think the stage matters as much as

478
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Speaker 3: the opponent, so I'm going to say ultimately it doesn't matter.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there was a semi final back on

480
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Speaker 1: December twenty eighth where Joe Burrow threw for seven touchdowns

481
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Speaker 1: in one half. Yeah, I'm not sure the stage is

482
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Speaker 1: a real issue here. Oklahoma though, Oklahoma, that's a good

483
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Speaker 1: Let me add another one in here. It's not on

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Speaker 1: our list, but you brought it up. Is there a

485
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Speaker 1: home field advantage? Sactly. I'm trying to figure that out.

486
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Speaker 3: Does that MA try to figure out if there's a

487
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Speaker 3: home field disadvantage that could play into this as well. Oh,

488
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: you're going to reverse jinks, it will sort of. I

489
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 3: think it's nice to go away. I think it's nice

490
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Speaker 3: to get locked in. I think it's nice to, you know,

491
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Speaker 3: take that sort of business trip mentality where you're away

492
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Speaker 3: from distractions. You are you know, you're in a hotel

493
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Speaker 3: doing your run through. It's not just taking a bus.

494
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Speaker 3: And I understand they're probaly, I'm sure they're going to

495
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Speaker 3: be in a hotel in New Orleans for days and

496
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Speaker 3: days leading up to the game. But there is a

497
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Speaker 3: different element of not going away. And I'm positive the

498
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Speaker 3: Superdome is going to be very LSU friendly.

499
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Speaker 1: What is what is? I just wonder if that's added pressure.

500
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Speaker 1: What's your bet for first college football media member to

501
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: tweet out? It's like seventy thirty in favor of LSU

502
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: down here. Oh yeah, people love the purportal. That feels

503
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: like a Danish dot tweet at maybe eight oh two. Wow, Yeah,

504
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: that's that seems right, all right? Next one. Okay, so Clemson,

505
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Speaker 1: Well maybe Stu Mandel I could see Stu could do that.

506
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Speaker 1: That's definitely his two thing. Clemson has started slowly against

507
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: most of the quote unquote good teams on their twenty

508
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Speaker 1: nineteen schedule.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, North Carolina, Louisville, Texas A, and m Ohio State

510
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: slow starts, quick start against Virginia.

511
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Speaker 1: I go a step further that a fair share of

512
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Speaker 1: their close calls in each of the last four regular

513
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Speaker 1: seasons have come against the better teams on their sched

514
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Speaker 1: So the Auburns and Louisville's, NC State, Texas A, and

515
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Speaker 1: M's pitt U NC this year. Like it's not just

516
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: in the vacuum of the twenty nineteen season, it's been

517
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Speaker 1: a recurring theme. It has not mattered much. Will it

518
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Speaker 1: matter here?

519
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 3: I think it will matter, yes. And it looked like

520
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: it was going to matter against Ohio State, and they

521
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: ultimately couldn't convert a number of opportunities they had in

522
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Speaker 3: the red zone, you know, plays in which it looked

523
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Speaker 3: like they were going to score or get very close

524
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Speaker 3: to score. And I don't know that Clemson can get

525
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Speaker 3: away with that two games in a row. I agree

526
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Speaker 3: with petition this good. I think I agree with you.

527
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say, yes, it will matter. I'm going

528
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Speaker 3: to say yes, it's going to be very difficult to

529
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Speaker 3: be poised early in the Superdome with this kind of crowd,

530
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Speaker 3: no matter how LSU themselves look. I just think even

531
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Speaker 3: with Trevor Lawrence playing on the stage, it'd be impossible

532
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Speaker 3: not to have a little bit in the way of butterflies,

533
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Speaker 3: a little bit in the way of getting your head

534
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Speaker 3: on straight until you can sort of figure out your

535
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Speaker 3: time and place. So I'm going to say it will

536
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: matter that the slow start is going to is going

537
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: to be something that Clemson, even if they pull it out,

538
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: will be something that they come to regret putting themselves

539
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 3: in a position with next one.

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about Joe Burrow not being on a

542
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Speaker 1: stage quite like this. What about coach Orgeron. It's true,

543
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: we know Dabosweeney's been there. He was there last year,

544
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Speaker 1: He's been there I don't know how many times now

545
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. But coach Joe is

546
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: at home. That'll help. But he hasn't quite managed a

547
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: game like this, He hasn't been on a stage like this.

548
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Speaker 3: As a head coach, no timeouts and going for it

549
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: on fourth down and you know, figuring out if you

550
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: should spike it with fifty two seconds left before halftime

551
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: or just keep his foot on the gas. I don't

552
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Speaker 3: know the last I mean, I do know the last

553
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,239
Speaker 3: time they played a game that came down to it.

554
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: That was Auburn, right, yeah, I guess now Alabama came

555
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: down to it. Yeah that was back in Alabama.

556
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Speaker 1: Yeah Alabama, sure.

557
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: But yeah Auburn in Alabama. That's incredible. Opponents, teams, defenses, whatever,

558
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: But this is certainly different. They had Alabama, I think

559
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: in tusk looser, right, yeah, on Auburn at home. So

560
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: challenge is all the same. But I don't think it matters.

561
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it matters because I think the team

562
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: is so squarely locked in on that the gas being

563
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: pushed at all times. We saw it at the end

564
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: of the Texas game and what week two on the road,

565
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: where they could have just tried running it and punting

566
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Speaker 3: it into sort of hoping for the best to run

567
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Speaker 3: out the clock, and they didn't. And that was the

568
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: continued theme that this team is here to be aggressive.

569
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Speaker 3: So I think they're always going to air on the

570
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: side of aggression. They have that identity built into their

571
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: DNA at this point, So I'm going to say maybe

572
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: early it matters a little, but ultimately, over the course

573
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: of four quarters, if they lose, they lose. But I

574
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be because of game management.

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Speaker 3: And because I agree is too big, I would completely

576
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Speaker 3: agree with that. Took the words right in my mouth. Yes,

577
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: another one here. You're gonna have to explain this in

578
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: a little more detail because you came up with these

579
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: LSU pretty late in the year, keeping track of mobile quarterbacks,

580
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: dealing with mobile quarterbacks. What what examples are you referring

581
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: to here for our listening audience. The official SEC West

582
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: quarterback of the of the solid verbal John Reese Plumbley

583
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: ran all over the LSU defense and that's just situationably, situationably,

584
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: situationally somewhat understandable. That was the week after BAMA their

585
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: second consecutive game on the road, and I, you know,

586
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: I feel about the double roads, but there is that

587
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: element of okay, we can pick on the middle of

588
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: LSU's linebacking cores a little bit sidelined to sideline, and

589
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: we saw, you know, Sam Allinger moved the ball some

590
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: in that Texas game. They Kellen Mond was completely stifled.

591
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Speaker 3: And he is a mobile quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I get that.

593
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: And obviously Jalen Hurts ran some but ultimately not in

594
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: a difference making way. But there is that element of

595
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: you know, Grant Delpit was heard and when he showed

596
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: some of that. The injury effects was not great in

597
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: the open field tackling. But okay, hold, they give up points,

598
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: they give up yardage. You can run on them. Some

599
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: you can run on them. But we're talking about mobile

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00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: quarterbacks here. Would you classify Trevor Lawrence as a John

601
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Speaker 3: Reese Plumby kind of runner. I think he's better. He

602
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: ran in a sixty some id yard touchdown against Ohio State.

603
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: He is a dual threat quarterback in a dual threat offense.

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Speaker 3: You would classify him as a running quarterback. I would

605
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Speaker 3: classify him as a quarterback who is able to run

606
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Speaker 3: at a high level. Not Lamar Jackson, not Johnny Manziel.

607
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: But he is able to pick up third and eight's

608
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: with his legs. He is able to turn a four

609
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Speaker 3: yard run into a thirty one yard run. Yeah, I

610
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: would say his athleticism is absolutely an aspect of his game,

611
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: and those are two threats, passing and running.

612
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: So yes, dual threat plumbly ran the ball more than

613
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Speaker 1: twenty times, and it's a different aspect, but yeah, over

614
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Speaker 1: half of his starts this year. It's a much much

615
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: different system. Trevor Lawrence, by comparison, ran it sixteen times

616
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Speaker 1: in that semi final against Ohio State to a great avail,

617
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: very good over what six and a half yards to carry,

618
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: so clearly very effective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that includes sex, but yeah, nonetheless,

621
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Speaker 3: very fun game is part of very offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the first time that I can remember,

623
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Speaker 1: and Clempton fans might lampoon me for this, but that

624
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: was the first time I could remember using Trevor Lawrence

625
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Speaker 1: in that capacity.

626
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Speaker 3: Yes, and no, I mean they're not going to run

627
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: him against No Wake and NC State that way.

628
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Speaker 1: But he's very He's very athletic. He can do it

629
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Speaker 1: if he has to. I just he strikes me as

630
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: much more of a guy that they like to keep

631
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Speaker 1: in the pocket and utilize his arm.

632
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Speaker 3: No, it's a different offense, and it's a rich rot

633
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: offense for all miss but Trevor Lawrence against I'm saying

634
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: it's North Carolina. He had eleven carries. This may include

635
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: sacks against Louisville ten carries Ohio State's sixteen carries. Generally

636
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: he's under He's single digit carries against the UH not

637
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 3: meat of their schedule if I'm being kind. But yeah,

638
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: back to the days of Chad Morris and Taj Boyd

639
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: and Deshaun Watson and Kelly Bryant, all these guys, they

640
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: are told, you know, so you keep the ball on

641
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: this sort of option when you see this and here's

642
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: a draw here near the goal line. Here's a draw

643
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: here on first and ten. We saw in that the

644
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: final drive that the run game, the quarterback run game,

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00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: was part of Clemson. So if it's part of the game,

646
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: part of that offense, then it's part of the offense.

647
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a huge threat. I think

648
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: they were able to use it effectively against Ohio State.

649
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm not buying it as something that matters a whole

650
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: lot here. I think it matters all right.

651
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: I think Clemson is going to have success on the

652
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: ground with Trevor Lawrence, maybe not Travis etn He's struggled

653
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: against some of the better defenses Clemson his face and

654
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 3: has kept some game closer. But I think Trevor Lawrence

655
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: and his ability with his legs is going to be

656
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 3: a not insignificant factor.

657
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: Moving on, Daniel, Here's something that we talked about earlier.

658
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: We teased we'd be talking about later. The LSU offensive line. Yeah,

659
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: is it vulnerable, particularly on the edges? And does that matter?

660
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: My answer is yes, they're vulnerable. My answer is also yes, Clemson,

661
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: while they don't have the world beaters up front, that

662
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: allowed Brent Venables to be crazy flexible in the back

663
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: end of their defense like they had last year even

664
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: without Dexter Lawrence in the playoff. I think the athleticism

665
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: at linebacker, I mean Isaiah Simmons is they might be

666
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: the best defensive player in the country. The flexibility, the

667
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: variety of looks that Clemson can throw at LSU and

668
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: LSU's front, I think it's going to matter. I think

669
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is going to be forced into some uncomfortable situations,

670
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: which has generally not bothered him, but I think it's

671
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: going to have an effect on this game. Clemson's ability

672
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: to confuse and get home a couple times in key

673
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: moments against LSU. Yeah, yeah, I think it matters too.

674
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: And we know that Brent Vivennables is very creative. He

675
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: comes up with ways to generate pressure. The larger question

676
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: is will that pressure matter for Joe Burrow, who's been

677
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: very good in the face of pressure all year. Well,

678
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: they did. They had some trouble with Auburn. Auburn threw

679
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: like a weird three to one seven defense at them,

680
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: And maybe this is something else we can get into

681
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: with another one of these bullet points. But Clemson is

682
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: not going to be able to get home with their

683
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: front four like they have been able to do, like

684
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: we saw, you know, just the best defenses of the

685
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: past one hundred years of football. The fewer guys you

686
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: can get home with, the more just the crazier from

687
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: you know, Miszoo's defense with Craig Kulangowski. Alabama's recent defense is,

688
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: Auburn's recent defense is Washington when they went to the

689
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: playoff almost never blitzed. Clemson doesn't have that ability. But

690
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think what Brent Vennables is

691
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 3: able to do with confusion and stunts and slants whatever,

692
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna matter. I think LSU's offensive line

693
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 3: is good. I just don't think it's incredible.

694
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you, okay on that one.

695
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: Let's do one or two more. You seeing you on

696
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: here that you want to make sure we cover.

697
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: Here was one thing I was curious about. I don't

698
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 3: even know if it's a doesn't matter, but it's just

699
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: I was trying to figure out if somebody had experienced

700
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 3: succeeding against either one of these offenses or defenses. And

701
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: as we've seen in years past, sometimes these guys will

702
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: go to the facility very quietly and consult. Kevin Steele,

703
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: the Auburn defensive coordinator, looks to me to be the

704
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: only person who's actually succeeded against recent Clemson and this

705
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: year's LSU. Now, obviously Auburn didn't play Clemson this season.

706
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: Obviously there's the overlap of I think both of these

707
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: teams played Texas A and M, and both of these

708
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: teams shut down.

709
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Texas A and m's offense. But the Kevin Steele thing

710
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: is interesting. I looked.

711
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: I didn't see him do any interviews or I don't

712
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: think anybody that I could find has written anything using

713
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: what he is, what he's been able to do at Auburn,

714
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: both in shutting down Clemson with both the Shaun Watson

715
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: and Kelly Bryant and what he did this year in

716
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: holding LSU to twenty three points. But I wonder, because

717
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: Kevin Steele was both at LSU and at Clemson, I

718
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: think he's on better terms with Coach O because I

719
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: think Dabo. I mean, they called it not a firing,

720
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: but it was. It was not a great end to

721
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: Kevin Steele's tenure with Clemson. After the Orange Bowl against

722
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: West Virginia, I wonder if there's some Kevin Steele whispering

723
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: to Coach O about the Clemson offense. I wonder Dave Randa,

724
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: not that Dave Randa isn't capable himself, and we haven't

725
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: even talked about the LSU defense. I wonder if there's

726
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: something going on.

727
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I kept stealing anything else here.

728
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't mention the LSU defense. That's sort

729
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: of the one thing we haven't mentioned. And talking about

730
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: Clemson's offense and Trevor Lawrence, and we didn't mention his

731
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: targets and those offensive weapons. But the LSU defense has

732
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: allowed points this year. I think they're pretty drastically improved

733
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: from where they were mid season as they've gotten healthier,

734
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: especially as some of the freshmen like Derek Stingley, has

735
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: gotten a really good amount of important experience. But the

736
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: fact remains, outside of the dual threat thing, they've allowed points,

737
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: they've allowed big plays, They've been thrown on, they've messed

738
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: up in big situations, they've been run on, both by

739
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and otherwise. Is there Does LSU's season of uneven

740
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: results on defense matter to you against an offense is

741
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: talent to disclaim absolutely?

742
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely absolutely, And it's part of the reason why

743
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of points in this game. Sure,

744
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a shootout. I think we see

745
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: points in this game. I think both offenses are so good,

746
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: so good that neither defense is going to have an answer, right,

747
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: So I favor a lot of points here. But specific

748
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: to l s U, absolutely it matters, definitely.

749
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: So I guess, can we can we play? I don't

750
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: know if this is a game, but I asked you

751
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: to rank the outcomes. Do you want to do that

752
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: now or do you want to we could close?

753
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Thing?

754
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: Is this a dive deep sound play the dive Deep

755
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: we're still deep.

756
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: Dive Captain time, Lieutenant damn, you have clearance? Dive deep?

757
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Is that fine? Bomb underwater?

758
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

759
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: It might be some sort of underwater ghosts.

760
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: Who how does this work? So I there are six

761
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: pretty obvious outcomes in this game. Well they're sick. There

762
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: only are in this game. It's either one of these

763
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: teams winning, small, medium, or big. So I would imagine

764
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: like if you go back to the was it twenty

765
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: twelve Notre Dame Alabama? Yeah, the most obvious blowout would

766
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: have It was impossible to think about Notre Dame blowing

767
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: out Alabama if they're going to win, it was going

768
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: to be ugly with you know, led by defense winning

769
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: the game, you know, seventeen thirteen something like that. So

770
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: the most likely blowout that year was Alabama. Right to

771
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 3: you before we get in, The most likely blowout is

772
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: who over who?

773
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: In this game? Most likely blowout is Whoever?

774
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: If somebody wins this game forty two to twenty, who,

775
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: would you be more surprised or less surprised however you

776
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: want to word it?

777
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: To see as the victor, I would be stunned if

778
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: LSU blew out Clemson. Wow, Okay, And I say that

779
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: because I was stunned last year when Clemson blew out Alabama.

780
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: Just didn't see a blowout coming.

781
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: So one point less than what Clemson beat Notre Dame

782
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 3: or one point more one point more, yeah, right.

783
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: The Notre Dame's differential. Yeah, So I guess, just with

784
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: that in mind, I would be much more surprised if

785
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: LSU did it than if Clemson did it, because we've

786
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: seen Clemson do it against a really good opponent.

787
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: I went back and forth on this. I think you're

788
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 3: probably correct because in order to blow a team out,

789
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: it has to happen on both sides, and I think

790
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: Clemson has the ability to both shut down and take

791
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: the other defense to the woodshed. So I think that's

792
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: probably right. But I also don't think it's the most

793
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: likely outcome. I know it Ison is blowing out.

794
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: So what is the most likely outcome for you?

795
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: Then?

796
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: So if we think of it in terms of LSU

797
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: by a small margin, what do we consider a small margin,

798
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: a medium margin, and a big blowout margin?

799
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 3: So I have eight points are fewer so one possession

800
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: game as a small margin, and then medium I have

801
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: nine to fourteen, and then large if you're winning fifteen plus.

802
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: I know fifteen and sixteen are two possession games, but

803
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: it's pretty You see a final score of thirty five

804
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: to twenty, You're like, that's a very comfortable win.

805
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so both teams by a small, medium, or large margin.

806
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: Which team do you think is most likely to win?

807
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: And by what margin?

808
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 3: I have the most likely margin as LSU small, as

809
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: do I? I have that as the most likely margin,

810
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: LSU winning by eight or fewer points, because even with

811
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: Clemson as the more seasoned, more complete team, I'm still

812
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: going to roll in with the thing I believe the

813
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: most in, and that's the LSU offense and how impossible

814
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: and futile it seems for defenses to stop as talented

815
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: as Clemsons is. They also fell behind sixteen nothing to

816
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 3: another excellent offense, and that's an excellent offense in Ohio

817
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: State that I don't think is as good as LSU's.

818
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, i's my answer. I agree with you on

819
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: LSU small. I think if I'm betting, I bet the points,

820
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: I take Clemson plus the points.

821
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of history there. Clemson's been on this

822
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: stage before. If you're telling me that this game comes

823
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: down to a field goal, comes down to the last

824
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: second play, It's back and forth. Joe Burrow's got the

825
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. He wins by four. That makes

826
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. What does it make

827
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: sense is ls minus anything. I would take Clemson plus

828
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: five and a half and I'd be happy to be wrong.

829
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Just don't bet your life savings on it. But that

830
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: being said, I think LSU wins, and I think LSU's small.

831
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think that's the most likely outcome here.

832
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, I have LSU small number one, I have

833
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: Clemson small number two okay, and then I number three.

834
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: I actually have Clemson big okay. Because of my continue

835
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: the clear most concerning thing is the LSU defense, as

836
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: strong as they are at various points in that defense,

837
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: I think from what we've seen, you know, with them

838
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: against Alabama even early on, and I don't think this

839
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: matters all that much, but Texas did score on them.

840
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: I think that is that is my answer that things

841
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: like last year can get out of hand with. I mean,

842
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: the best defensive back in this game is still probably

843
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: aj Terrell, just the best and most seasoned lockdown defender.

844
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: To me, I guess it depends on how you classify

845
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 3: Isaiah Simmons because he plays a little bit of everything.

846
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 3: But I think there is that element of Clemson comes

847
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: out a little more comfortable because of where they've been

848
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: and jump out to an early lead, and LSU was

849
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: a little bit rattled and a little bit pressing and

850
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 3: playing from behind like they haven't been able to do,

851
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: and it just it goes from bad to worse. So

852
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: I think I agree with you in that a Clemson

853
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: blowout is more likely than an LSU blowout. So that's

854
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: my number three. Let me ask you this. The over

855
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: under here is sixty nine and a half. Yeah, would

856
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: you go over under that? So that's like a if

857
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: my quick math works out, that's like a thirty seven

858
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: to thirty two type score in favor of LSU. Yeah,

859
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: if it's right on there, nobody really scoring forty if

860
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 3: it's you know, adheres to that five is spread five

861
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: six points for.

862
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: The record, Just so you know, LSU put up forty

863
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: eight point nine points per game, which was first in

864
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: the nation, and Clemson forty five point three, which was

865
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 1: fourth in the nation.

866
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: And Clemson's defense I don't think allowed a team to

867
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: score more than twenty. North Carolina scored twenty. Everybody else

868
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: was like.

869
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: Twenty three in the playoffs, but beyond that, no, yeah,

870
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

871
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 3: During the regular season, yes, twenty three in the playoff

872
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 3: against Ohio State, which holding to Ohio State to twenty three.

873
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: Holy wow. I think I'm inclined to take the over. Yeah,

874
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: I would be too. I think shootout, I think I

875
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: think a lot of points, and you know, to my

876
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: earlier point, I see a back and forth game. I

877
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: do think LSU wins because of that offense. Usually I

878
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: don't like to pick base solely on offense, which is

879
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: probably why Clemson ends up winning. But it never take

880
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: the under. It's not fun at all. It's not fun

881
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: to take the under. I see a back and forth game,

882
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: a lot of points. I could definitely see a scenario

883
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: where LSU gets one extra possession and they score, And

884
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: for that reason, I make second most likely LSU medium.

885
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: My order is LSU small, LSU medium, Clemson big wow

886
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: or medium more likely.

887
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: That Clemson is just so very clearly better than they

888
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: are barely better.

889
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I'm gonna go out on a limb. Wow.

890
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: I like that LSU small, LSU medium, Clemson Big, Clemson medium,

891
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: Clemson small, And I think the least likely outcome here

892
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: is LSU big because of that Clemson defense. See, I

893
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: have LSU big at number four, okay, and then LSU

894
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: medium and then Clemson medium. I have LSU big because

895
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: we know what that looks like. This is not something

896
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: we have to form out of the ether. We know

897
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: what happens when Joe Burrow is supremely confident in what

898
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: a defense is trying against him and what his own

899
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: team's counter punch is or yeah, they have no ability

900
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: to stop us. Now, Oklahoma's defense is nowhere near Clemson's defense.

901
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: But the heights of LSU's offense to me, says, if

902
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: they're clicking and they figure out this Clemson defense early

903
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: and they have the counter punches, if it's Joe Brady

904
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: versus Brent Venables and Joe Brady has all of you know, whatever,

905
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: he's stacking receivers like he does or running the option

906
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: routes like he does out of the slot, there is

907
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: a world in which LSU.

908
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 3: We've seen it recently. We've seen them pour almost fifty

909
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: on Bama. Now, granted's not Alabama's best defense of the

910
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: last decade. But we've seen a world in which LSU

911
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: just pours it on a team offensively, and it's a

912
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: healthier LSU defense. Again, I'm they're the most concerning element

913
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: of this game. It's still a really good defense, very

914
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: good deal Rashad Lawrence. Inside, it's still Claven Chase, and

915
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: on the edge it's still Derek Stingley and Grant Delpit.

916
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: This is a team that can turn over a team.

917
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: This is a team that can stack pick sixes in

918
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: short fields. There is a world in which LSU wins

919
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: this game forty five to twenty six or something like that.

920
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So my next question here, we got to give

921
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: our picks of the week as we bring it home

922
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: here on our final preview show of the twenty nineteen

923
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season. Give me a final score, give me

924
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: a prediction, and tell me why.

925
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: So, if my least likely out come is LSU small,

926
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 3: that would make sense for me to take LSU small.

927
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to take LSU to win the game forty

928
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: one to thirty four. Forty one thirty four. I think

929
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: they're a touchdown better. I think it's back and forth.

930
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: I think maybe there's a special team situation that changes things.

931
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: I know LSU in the uh what the kick coverage

932
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: game hasn't been amazing when at least when teams have

933
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: been able to return the ball. I think there's a

934
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: special team situation that changes the scope of things. I'm

935
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 3: hopeful that Clyde Edwards Alaire is fully healthy and recovered

936
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 3: from his hamstring issues. Otherwise I've become a little bit

937
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: more worried because he was that keycog against Alabama. But

938
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: there's something about Clemson that I'm not fully there with

939
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 3: and I don't know why. I don't know if it

940
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: was the start, I don't know what it was against

941
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: Ohio State where they needed some things to break their

942
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: way to come back, and I think it's a little

943
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: bit more difficult against this LSU offense. So forty one

944
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: thirty four in one of the all time great national championship.

945
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: Games, I think it's going to be an amazing football game.

946
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a lot of points. I've

947
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: got LSU winning at the gun forty five, forty two, again,

948
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: a lot of points. Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow has to

949
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: lead the LSU Tigers down the field to score in

950
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans to win the national championship.

951
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 3: I have no idea why we think this Clemson defense

952
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 3: is gonna give up so many points, But I honestly

953
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: think Joe Burrow is what he's done this year. It's

954
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 3: a generational performance. So let's put it this way. If

955
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: anyone's gonna do it this year, it's gonna be Joe Burrow.

956
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

957
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Wow, I think a lot of points uncharacteristically, so for

958
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: the Clemson defense. Maybe I'm nuts, which is entirely possible

959
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: from doing this all year. But I've got lis you

960
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: by three on taking Clemson plus the points, and I

961
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: agree with you that there may be a special team

962
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: situation here. It's the only thing, one of the only

963
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: things that jumps out on paper as a pretty big

964
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: disparity between LSU, which has been pretty good on special

965
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: teams by and large, and Clemson.

966
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: Man, we've gotten this whole show, not even talking about

967
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: t Higgins and Justin Ross and Travis y Ten and

968
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: their ability. I mean, they've won the National Championship. We've

969
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: seen what Justin Ross is able to do on a

970
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 3: stage like this. Ah Man, what I just the receivers

971
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 3: in this game. I'm not going to go through year

972
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: by year to look at the receiving course from what

973
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: we've seen, I remember Oregons was very beat up. But

974
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: the I mean, if you're going Justin Ross T Higgins,

975
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Terris Marshall. I know Clemson doesn't

976
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: have a world beater at tight end, whereas LSU has

977
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: kind of a matchup Nightmare and Thad Moss at times.

978
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: But what if you like receivers, if you like receivers

979
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: on corners, this is this is pornography, ty, Yeah, I

980
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: can't wait, and like we can talk about the fact

981
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 3: that you know Clemson's secondary and I mentioned Tanner news earlier,

982
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: maybe he's a weak point. I'm curious to see if

983
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: LSU can generate some mismatches in the slot against Tanner muse.

984
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see what Clemson's able to do with

985
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 3: their receivers against an LSU secondary that I mean, they're

986
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: they're painted on receivers every week. Sure, this is I

987
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: it looks to be an incredible collection of matchups outside.

988
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: I just don't know how either defense covers their opponent's

989
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: wide receivers.

990
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, sixteen minutes worth. I don't know how you do it.

991
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: I really hope they each just like, really get up

992
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: and press, just press.

993
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: And it's.

994
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: With a safety.

995
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm not hoping for that, but I am hoping that,

996
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: you know, you get, you know a lot of fifty

997
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: to fifty moments that just the game hinges on so

998
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 3: many different, tiny, tiny little seconds.

999
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: That's the best. I don't know how you cover these

1000
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: receivers for sixty minutes, and I don't know how you

1001
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: cover them with the constant threat of two really good

1002
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: running backs Edwards where Travis et totally ignoring Travis Etn,

1003
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: who's been perpetually underrated or undercovered at least as a

1004
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: star player for the Clemson Tigers.

1005
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was mostly shut down by Ohio State and

1006
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 3: still managed to have arguably the biggest moment in the game,

1007
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: or the maybe two biggest moments, yeah, in the game

1008
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: for Shoransen.

1009
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: So there you go. We are both taking LSU Damn

1010
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: by a little bit of a larger margin than I

1011
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: they cover. Yeah, you think they cover. I'm not willing

1012
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: to go there. We will be watching the game together

1013
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: on Monday evening. I am driving up to your homestead

1014
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: shortly after I get out of the mysterious day job

1015
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon. We are going to convene and record

1016
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: our recap episode early on Tuesday and drop that hopefully

1017
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: before lunchtime. Get that out into the college football ether

1018
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: so you can digest it on your ride to or

1019
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: from work. Yeah, and then we're gonna hang out and

1020
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: enjoy the season that was this past I don't know,

1021
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: five or six months.

1022
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's our own personal rat party. That's it cool.

1023
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 3: I'll be making the solid verbal, the official dip of

1024
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 3: the solid verbal, the chorizo dip.

1025
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: Should I bring anything? You want me to bring anything?

1026
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: I mean, do you make anything that you're particularly proud

1027
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: of that you think that would make a good addition.

1028
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if there will be other people watching

1029
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: with us.

1030
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: Do you want me to make my taco dip where

1031
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: I pour on the tostito salsa? You make whatever you want? Sure,

1032
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's delicious on top of a luscious bed

1033
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: of sour cream, cream cheese and Mexican cheese from Wegmans.

1034
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if my body can fully handle. Okay,

1035
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: my stomach has not been a friend of dairy recently,

1036
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: but I'm willing to try try everything.

1037
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll probably also get pizza. So yeah, there's gonna

1038
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 3: be a cheese factor anyway, Why the hell not.

1039
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: Follow along with us on Twitter, follow along on Instagram,

1040
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: check out the Facebook page. Dan and I are going

1041
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: to be posting. We're going to be offering running commentary

1042
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: at some point throughout the course of this week. I'm

1043
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: going to post my prop selections for the coming football game.

1044
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: They're not all out yet. There are a few interesting ones,

1045
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: but I want to wait until there's a more complete

1046
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: offering before I offer my recommendations. I know everyone's on

1047
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: the edge of their seat waiting for these, but give

1048
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: me a little bit more time to try and calculate

1049
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: what I think the best plays are.

1050
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're recording this obviously Tuesday for the Tues cruise,

1051
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 3: and we have not seen a full list of game

1052
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: and player props. I wonder, do you know who's doing?

1053
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 3: Is there a halftime show? I should have come prepared.

1054
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about the halftime show, but we

1055
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: did Simpson, we did Ashley Simpson. We did make reference

1056
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: earlier to the broadcast and ESPN is again doing it's

1057
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: Mega cast, so of course Chris vowallor Kirk kurb Street

1058
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: are going to be on the call. Tom Ornaldi and

1059
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: Maria Taylor are going to be working the sidelines as

1060
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: they typically do. There will also be the Field Pass,

1061
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: which is going to feature our good friend Adam Amin

1062
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: along with Steve Levy. They're going to have Pat mcnafee

1063
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky on the field as well. There's going to

1064
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: be a coach's film room on ESPN You. They have

1065
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: not announced yet who those coaches will be. Hopefully it'll

1066
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: be Kevin Steele, that'd be neat, Tom Reese would probably

1067
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: be nice. One desire there. I don't even know if

1068
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: I have it too. The Command Center will be on

1069
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: ESPN News, which is where they show you all the

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Speaker 1: angles and get about four different vantage points at any moment.

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Speaker 1: They'll have the Data center on the goal Line Network

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Speaker 1: Too Excited in case you're getting too excited. The College

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Speaker 1: Shower will be the data This is the real time

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Speaker 1: statsnalytics and social media commentary. And then there will be

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Speaker 1: the hometown radio on the ACC and SEC networks. Oh

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Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, so they'll have the hometown radio

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Speaker 1: calls featuring the Clemson Tigers Network and the LS Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio Network. I do like that.

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Speaker 3: We both picked LSU, so technically Dabo can add us

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Speaker 3: to the pile of non believers.

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Speaker 1: There is a sounds of the game on ESPN Classic. Whoa,

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Speaker 1: I'm reading this off the press release. It allows viewers

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Speaker 1: to imagine themselves inside the Superdome. It's a little ASMR.

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's like the no announcer experience, like

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Speaker 3: they've done that with NBA games.

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Speaker 1: That allows viewers to imagine themselves inside the Superdome as

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Speaker 1: the game presentation will feature all the natural audio from

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Speaker 1: the stadium, including the band performances. I assume no three

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Speaker 1: D now no three D. We have a ref cast

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Speaker 1: on the ESPN app, which is the streaming from their hats.

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Speaker 1: John Perry, Matt Austin, and Judson Howard provide reaction and

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Speaker 1: commentary from a referees perspective, So it doesn't I don't

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Speaker 1: think the hat can will be involved here.

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Speaker 3: Can we set up a feed in which it's just

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Speaker 3: Mama h describing the action over the phone.

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Speaker 1: We could do that. Try that? Okay, Oh, that would

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Speaker 1: be great.

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Speaker 3: I've had I mean, I'm sure you've had this situation

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Speaker 3: too where you're not able to watch a game and

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Speaker 3: you're like texting with somebody furiously or on the phone

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Speaker 3: like yep, nope, okay, oh oh Jason, you just have

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Speaker 3: no idea what's going on? I would love to have

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Speaker 3: a mama h feed going.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see what we can do. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: figure that out. Well. Thank you to everyone out there

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Speaker 1: for tuning in, not just for this show, but all

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Speaker 1: season long. Yea, we will be back in short order

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Speaker 1: to recap all this and much much more as we

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Speaker 1: head into the college football off season. Don't forget. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't subscribed, please do so. The soliverbal will be

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Speaker 1: with you all throughout the calendar year, even if they're

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Speaker 1: not playing football games. Knows, there's plenty of college football

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Speaker 1: to discuss as we forge a head into the long

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Speaker 1: doldrums that is the twenty twenty offseason. Yeah. Can I

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Speaker 1: add one more thing? Please?

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Speaker 3: If you're going to this game, eat literally anywhere. It

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Speaker 3: will be very happy in New Orleans because it is

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Speaker 3: the best. If you want specific places, I like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. There's Willie Mays for fried Chicken, There's a

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Speaker 3: Killer Poe Boys, There's all sorts of places. Sylvain is

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Speaker 3: very very good. If you don't feel like specific like

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Speaker 3: Cajun food, but they still have Cajun options. Bevy is

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Speaker 3: sort of a little outside of all the tourist area

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Speaker 3: for Poe Boys and stuff like that. But you literally

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Speaker 3: eat anywhere anywhere local. Don't don't do everything you can

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Speaker 3: not to eat at CPK. For I'm saying in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: That guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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Speaker 1: Tie hilden Brand, We'll be back at you in just

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Speaker 1: a few days. Enjoy the college football National Championship and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Stay solid, pray,