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Speaker 1: and boys, a lot of stuff happened since Friday. We
Speaker 1: had the Rampage Show, we had the SmackDown Show, we
Speaker 1: had Battle of the Belt, we got a line up
Speaker 1: for Raw tonight. We had an update on Sasha Banks
Speaker 1: who injured her knee at a house show taping. We
Speaker 1: have got to the announcement of the return of a
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor exactly as they had stated. They will
Speaker 1: be returning April first for Supercard of Honor. And we
Speaker 1: actually have a ton of details on what the relaunch
Speaker 1: of a Ring of Honor is going to entail. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if you have not heard, uh spoiler alert here, there
Speaker 1: was a Ring of Honor championship change that just occurred,
Speaker 1: and we'll tell you everything we know about that. So
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Speaker 1: warning before we talk about it, but we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: There was an injury had the Impact taping is Luckily
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Speaker 1: So here's the news, got a lot of it. It's
Speaker 1: actually not all bad news for once. I mean the
Speaker 1: worst news is it ROS tonight. Maybe it'll be good.
Speaker 1: Who knows. We got Bianca bell Air, Live Morgan and
Speaker 1: Do drop in a three way uh for a raw
Speaker 1: women's title opportunity at Royal Rumble. According to w W
Speaker 1: dot com, we got Alexa Blisses journey back to rab begins.
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that. And RK Brow will defend the
Speaker 1: raw take team titles against the Alpha Academy. So two
Speaker 1: matches announced. I presume they'll both take place, but that's
Speaker 1: a foolish presumption because many times that doesn't happen. And
Speaker 1: they also announced that Sasha Banks will be out of action.
Speaker 1: Here's what it says. Six to eight weeks after suffering
Speaker 1: a foot injury at a live event in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: It says after seeking emergency medical attention, it was determined
Speaker 1: and nothing was broken. Sasha underwent an m r I
Speaker 1: it was discovered she has a bruised calcineus bone. I
Speaker 1: think only women have a calcineus bone. I'm not aware
Speaker 1: of having one myself. She is at home recovering and undergoing,
Speaker 1: like how a dude as an Adams Apple but a
Speaker 1: woman doesn't. She is expected to be out of action
Speaker 1: for six to eight weeks w W WE announced, which,
Speaker 1: of course, if that's true, that means she will not
Speaker 1: be in the Women's Royal Rumble and why do they
Speaker 1: need women? So you know, do I think she's gonna
Speaker 1: be back at the rumble? Is a big surprise? Yes?
Speaker 1: Is that confer? Absolutely not? Will she likely miss it?
Speaker 1: Who knows? That's what they're claiming, So I guess we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. But I think they have nineteen women
Speaker 1: announced for a thirty woman Royal Rumble, And boy, if
Speaker 1: you see the list of women that they have for
Speaker 1: this royal Rumble, where in God's name are they gonna
Speaker 1: get eleven other women? Do you want to hear the lineup?
Speaker 1: Somebody dm me on Twitter and said, hey, do you
Speaker 1: think there's going to be some surprises that take place
Speaker 1: in the Rumble? And just by math, yes, of course
Speaker 1: there already is one for those of you who somehow
Speaker 1: stayed under a rock all weekend as Brian goes through
Speaker 1: these names and maybe a little bit of a surprise
Speaker 1: to you. All right, So this is the lineup for
Speaker 1: the thirty woman a Royal Rumble, and this is this
Speaker 1: is nineteen. Look who we've got and they're they've got nineteen.
Speaker 1: We got real ripley Nikki. This is Nikki a s
Speaker 1: h Nicky ash Aaliyah who has not been seen since
Speaker 1: she vomited all over self, Naddy and Shana summer Ray
Speaker 1: is back for the Royal Rumble to Mina, Dana Brook,
Speaker 1: Kelly Kelly, Naomi, Carmela, Zelina, Michelle McCool who's living life.
Speaker 1: Both of the Bella Twins. Remember when Nicki said that
Speaker 1: she was prom Nicki didn't interview, said her neck is
Speaker 1: such a disaster she can never have another match again.
Speaker 1: Now they've announced both Bella's for the Royal Rumble Leta
Speaker 1: and uh. Coming in at number nineteen is Mickey James,
Speaker 1: who they build and who is still the Impact Wrestling
Speaker 1: Women's Champion. That is your lineup for the Women's Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1: And now they have to come up with eleven more
Speaker 1: women for this Royal Rumble. So oh and Charlotte. Charlotte
Speaker 1: also so declared, hyah, so that's is that eleven more
Speaker 1: with or without Charlotte. It might be only ten more
Speaker 1: with Charlotte, but I'm not bothering the account. They have
Speaker 1: many more to add. Three of them will probably very
Speaker 1: likely be I would assume toxic attraction. Right. Well, all
Speaker 1: I was told and you know, you know, when you're
Speaker 1: told something by w W E, it's like you know
Speaker 1: you can report it, but what what you're told yesterday
Speaker 1: is not the same as what actually happens often. But
Speaker 1: I was told that they didn't really want to use
Speaker 1: a lot of n x T women. That's probably changed
Speaker 1: by now is they have eleven women remaining, and uh,
Speaker 1: we're already down to the Kelly Kelly's and etcetera. So well,
Speaker 1: I say, who are they going to use? Diana Parrazzo?
Speaker 1: And they got Mickey, So maybe we'll have more more
Speaker 1: impact women involved a lounder a blaze, but a lot
Speaker 1: of women remaining would surprised me. Actually, person notes Molly here,
Speaker 1: yet they could call Molly Chelsea Green. No, no, that
Speaker 1: won't be happening, Gail Kim, absolutely not. That won't be
Speaker 1: happening now alright, So the other there's actually a lot
Speaker 1: of big news today, But one of the other big
Speaker 1: stories today is yes, as we have been stating for
Speaker 1: months now, and as a lot of people do not believe,
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor is in fact relaunching over WrestleMania weekend,
Speaker 1: they made the announcement today. Supercard of Honor is taking
Speaker 1: place on Friday, April one at the Curtis cole Well
Speaker 1: Center in Garland, Texas. Take us for the annual pay
Speaker 1: per view EXTRAVAGANZAA on sale Friday January one at eleven
Speaker 1: Eastern for Honor Club members Friday January for the general public.
Speaker 1: No matches have been announced for Supercard of Honor yet,
Speaker 1: so this is this is the working plan, okay, And
Speaker 1: this is a spoiler by the way, for the Impact tapings,
Speaker 1: Rock c is no longer the Ring of Honor Women's
Speaker 1: champ you. She was defeated by Dianna Parazzo. And uh
Speaker 1: the story is that, as we had noted, Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor is going to be a glorified independent promotion with television.
Speaker 1: So uh p W g A g c W. They're
Speaker 1: essentially gonna use who is available to run shows and
Speaker 1: they are going to put those shows on television. That's
Speaker 1: that's part one of the plan. At this point, Roxy
Speaker 1: has not signed with anybody, but the presumption is she
Speaker 1: probably ain't gonna be available in April. She's got another
Speaker 1: w w E tryout camp coming up, a w who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll make an offer for her, but the feeling
Speaker 1: is it's unlikely that she's gonna be available. So therefore
Speaker 1: they took the title off of her two because I
Speaker 1: think they figured that Dianna will be available in April. Dianna,
Speaker 1: they must have some sort of agreement with um Impact
Speaker 1: or whatever, whatever the situation is, they feel they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to use Dianna come April. So Dianna is
Speaker 1: the current Ring of Honor Champion. There were a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of belts in Ring of Honor, and going forward
Speaker 1: they're largely gonna book three belts. They're gonna book the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor Men's title, the Ring of Honor Women's title,
Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor tag team titles, so six man titles,
Speaker 1: pure title. I know Jonathan Gresham is out there with
Speaker 1: the pure title as well, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: say those belts are like fully retired. But Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor is gonna be focusing on men's women's tag and
Speaker 1: so what's gonna happen is you've been seeing Jonathan Gresham
Speaker 1: working elsewhere defending the the Ring of Honor titles. See
Speaker 1: Diana Parrazzo do the same thing, and uh same with
Speaker 1: the tag team titles. And the agreement that Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor has with all of these other promotions is, let's
Speaker 1: say that you know, you see a Ring of Honor,
Speaker 1: uh tag team championship match at g CW. Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor has the rights to the footage of their tag
Speaker 1: team championship match or whatever match in other promotions. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean exclusive rights, but if the Briscoes defend the tag
Speaker 1: team titles in g c W, Ring of Honor can
Speaker 1: use that footage on their television shows. So basically, from
Speaker 1: now until Supercard of Honor, if you watch the Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor television show, you're gonna see championship matches from
Speaker 1: all different promotions because the Ring of Honor has the
Speaker 1: right to use those matches on their television show. And
Speaker 1: then obviously come Supercard of Honor, you'll see you know,
Speaker 1: matches from there and the tapings on the television show,
Speaker 1: and uh, the champions are essentially gonna be touring World Champions.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk more about this after the break back
Speaker 1: in a Moment of er her Life. The show Bright
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Speaker 1: Observer dot Com. So I don't know what the future
Speaker 1: is for the uh six men pure television titles, etcetera.
Speaker 1: I mean, they may they may have to return them,
Speaker 1: they may just float around the indies and whoever's champions
Speaker 1: just books some side. I don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: But the three that they're going to focus on our men's,
Speaker 1: women's in tag and touring World Champions is noted, So
Speaker 1: they'll go all over the place defend those titles. Ring
Speaker 1: of Hunter gets to use the footage for television. Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor shoots their own television and pay per views,
Speaker 1: and uh that's the future at this point of a
Speaker 1: Ring of Honors. So first big show coming back will
Speaker 1: be as noted, the Supercard of Honor on April one
Speaker 1: in Garland at Texas. Yeah, what do you need all
Speaker 1: those belts for? You know, in the situation that they're in,
Speaker 1: you could argue that they don't even need a women's title,
Speaker 1: although because of the way they're going to be set
Speaker 1: up now, the women's division might actually thrive and that
Speaker 1: belt actually might get a lot more shine on it
Speaker 1: because you are able to bring in people from outside
Speaker 1: and you don't have to worry about acquiring a roster
Speaker 1: that they were attempting to do and all that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff, so you can bring in somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: as much money Sinclair is gonna want to throw at people,
Speaker 1: and I think this is the best case scenario for
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. Obviously, what the wrestling side wanted, Sinclair
Speaker 1: could only give them so much as far as being
Speaker 1: able to flood them with money and production and all
Speaker 1: these sorts of things. You know that limitation, especially production wise,
Speaker 1: has been there since day one when it comes to
Speaker 1: getting the equipment and having really what these guys want
Speaker 1: to use, and they were only going to make it
Speaker 1: so far. So in this crazy environment that we're in,
Speaker 1: they need to concentrate on Honor Club, make sure people
Speaker 1: sign up for it, give people, get them excited for
Speaker 1: that possibility, getting excited for these weekend pay per views
Speaker 1: that they're going to be doing. What is going to
Speaker 1: be interesting or is going to be how the rest
Speaker 1: of the landscape spins around Ring of Honor. When they
Speaker 1: decide we're going to have this weekend and we're gonna
Speaker 1: watch it for fry Day and Saturday or however that's
Speaker 1: going to work. How there's so many other promotions that
Speaker 1: now run Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. There's so much going on.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see who they are able to
Speaker 1: draw in. But as far as I'm I know, and
Speaker 1: I could be dead wrong about this, Brian, maybe you
Speaker 1: have some insight on it. Chris Hero is still there.
Speaker 1: There are other people that are still there who certainly
Speaker 1: have a cache in this business, certainly love pro wrestling
Speaker 1: and certainly want to see Ring of Honor succeed and
Speaker 1: understand that, even with its limitations, having Sinclair behind you
Speaker 1: and having those resources are a massive, massive help. This
Speaker 1: person says, Roah better pay up if they're going to
Speaker 1: be using people's footage in syndication, Bro, what do you
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be What do you think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be paying for this? Number One, if you're if you're
Speaker 1: g c W, you get to promote that the Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor champions defending its championship on your show, and
Speaker 1: then g CW is getting syndicated all over the country
Speaker 1: with tons of You think they're not gonna say where
Speaker 1: it's at. Well, like they're gonna plug GCW. They'll probably
Speaker 1: plug their next show. I mean, this works out great
Speaker 1: for everybody. No one's turning this idea down because they're
Speaker 1: not getting paid huge money if the footage is used
Speaker 1: on on television. No, and we already saw F E
Speaker 1: and A. J. Gray show up to face the Briscoes
Speaker 1: on r O H TV and they they benefited from that.
Speaker 1: We've seen the Briscoes. This was a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: right after the hurricane in Puerto Rico, when every I
Speaker 1: mean it was it's still awful down there, especially forget
Speaker 1: about the wrestling scene. But you know w W c
Speaker 1: ran their anniversary show that Briscos went down there for that.
Speaker 1: That footage ended up on on Ring of Honor TV.
Speaker 1: So again it's a little bit of a different example,
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a lot of give and take here,
Speaker 1: especially for groups like say The Fire or you know, yes,
Speaker 1: if I has got a channel on Pluto, they absolutely
Speaker 1: have that. Unfortunately, the visibility is not there. Ring of Honor,
Speaker 1: you know, you can debate how many people watch it
Speaker 1: and all this sort of stuff, but because of the
Speaker 1: way it's syndicated out, because there's still the possibility of
Speaker 1: getting a lot of viewers for a out of these
Speaker 1: smaller groups even impact you know, it's not necessarily a
Speaker 1: bad thing to have your name mentioned on TV like that.
Speaker 1: First and ever wants to know if I know if
Speaker 1: a Ring of Under is going to use original commentary
Speaker 1: for shows from other promotions or if they'll do their
Speaker 1: own commentary. Actually, I don't know. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on right now. I will try to answer some
Speaker 1: of these questions later on, but that's uh, that's all
Speaker 1: I know at this exact moment. I'll try to figure
Speaker 1: out more about like Josh Woods peer title, like is
Speaker 1: he the shoot Peer Champion? Right now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see a lot of these belts. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I if I'm Ring of Honor, I just reeled them
Speaker 1: back in and look at Chaine Taylor Promotions and look
Speaker 1: at who you know, whoever's got these belts and go, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, the time to cash them out. We're gonna
Speaker 1: put them up into in the offices, and that's it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could let the belts linger out there,
Speaker 1: sell them to somebody. You know, you could sell the
Speaker 1: rights to have a a trio smatch where those belts
Speaker 1: get merged and sucked in by Triple A or something
Speaker 1: like that. You could absolutely do something like that if
Speaker 1: you so chose. But realistically, right now, I would honestly
Speaker 1: just vacate those belts up here. Championship was was basically
Speaker 1: melded in to the world title. Anyway, the TV title
Speaker 1: I think went that direction. They did. They emerged that
Speaker 1: one already, so I think when it comes to the
Speaker 1: pure title in the six man titles, you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of stinks for those guys, But I would say,
Speaker 1: go ahead and pull them off, and they can walk
Speaker 1: around any independent promotion and go hey, I was never
Speaker 1: beat for those belts. We were never beat for those belts.
Speaker 1: We want to come in. You could always have that
Speaker 1: storyline when they go in somewhere. I write a couple
Speaker 1: of notes from SmackDown because a lot of this plays
Speaker 1: into the Royal rumble. We had a Lessner Reins confrontation
Speaker 1: where Paul Hayman started to feel really sad that Roman
Speaker 1: Reigns had said mean things about him and he almost
Speaker 1: started crying, and then Brock got mad at Paul Hayman
Speaker 1: fur it, and so they are still playing up the
Speaker 1: storyline that maybe maybe Paul would rather be with a
Speaker 1: Roman than Brock. So this obviously is going to play
Speaker 1: out through the the Wrestle Media show. But in the meantime,
Speaker 1: obviously Brock ledser versus Bobby Lashley at the Royal Rumble
Speaker 1: and the storyline on SmackDown. I love when his storyline
Speaker 1: in storyline, the company is incompetent. So in storyline, Adam
Speaker 1: Pierce gets a call and he's told bro we need
Speaker 1: a challenger for Roman and Royal Rumble. Find somebody like
Speaker 1: right now. So you know, Adam Pierce is is on
Speaker 1: He's on SmackDown and he gets his call, so he
Speaker 1: tries to find somebody and who does he find, well
Speaker 1: a guy not on SmackDown. Roman reigns, So you know
Speaker 1: that old uh the one time per year that I
Speaker 1: don't even mention it. But anyway, it's gonna be seth
Speaker 1: rawlins and Roman reigns and WrestleMania because the SmackDown roster
Speaker 1: is so like, God bless all the guys. Like I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of the individual wrestlers personally, but in
Speaker 1: terms of like Star Power, SmackDown is dead and you
Speaker 1: literally had to go to another brand to get somebody
Speaker 1: to challenge Roman Reigns at the Royal Rumble. So they
Speaker 1: did that and Rick Boogs beat Sammy Zane. Sammy Zane
Speaker 1: is the number one contender to Nakama's belt, so they
Speaker 1: beat him. Now, you know, stupid as this is, I mean,
Speaker 1: Shinsky Nakamura has a hand injury, so it looks like
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to fend the title for
Speaker 1: a little while. That's why he hasn't been wrestling, So
Speaker 1: I guess it's just something they'll do Sammy Zane and
Speaker 1: Rick Boogs for a while before Nakamura is back and
Speaker 1: ready to ready to wrestle. We had Charlotte beating Naomi.
Speaker 1: I'll talk more about this match with with Filthy Tom,
Speaker 1: but it's stupid. I mean, they're they're still building up
Speaker 1: this this Sonya Deville versus Naomi thing, but like the
Speaker 1: way they built it up was just dumb. So anyway,
Speaker 1: Charlotte one namely got screwed again by Sonya Deville. We
Speaker 1: had Happy Corbin and had Cap Moss beating the Viking
Speaker 1: Raiders and they got the wind there. And then the
Speaker 1: street fight, the USOS beat the New Day. They went
Speaker 1: eighteen minutes. Very good street fight. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was as good as the pay per view match. You
Speaker 1: went eighteen minutes, and uh, the USO's one, which means
Speaker 1: the New Day can never challenge for the tag titles
Speaker 1: again as long as the USO's are champion. So what
Speaker 1: in the world you do with the New Day for
Speaker 1: the next I don't think they're losing those titles till
Speaker 1: at least Mania. I would think maybe they'll lose them
Speaker 1: at the Royal Rumble, but now we've got, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: the New Day nothing to do on SmackDown. They'll just
Speaker 1: be doing whatever. Maybe they can go in a singles
Speaker 1: run er something, But that was that was big notes
Speaker 1: out of the SmackDown show on Friday night. So it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be Happy Corbin and mad Cap Moss battling them.
Speaker 1: It could be they just got another win. That could
Speaker 1: be your tag team championship feud, Happy Corbin and mad
Speaker 1: Cap Moss against the USOS, which, like in the ring,
Speaker 1: would probably be really good. But it's two heel teams.
Speaker 1: You have another baby Face team on this roster that
Speaker 1: you could plug in against the use so's well the answers, no,
Speaker 1: that was a rhetorical question. That was the Viking Raiders,
Speaker 1: but you went ahead and beat them, which reminds me
Speaker 1: of Raw Tonight, where a couple of weeks ago you
Speaker 1: just couldn't have had Otis and Chad Gable get victories
Speaker 1: over Randy Orton. Yeah, Riddles been Riddle on Monday last week.
Speaker 1: You just pinned him in the middle of the ring
Speaker 1: like a geek you have. But two weeks ago before that,
Speaker 1: you know it was Randy Orton finally got that r
Speaker 1: k O on Otis and it's like, but he didn't
Speaker 1: beat him. But the whole and I guess that's the
Speaker 1: the angle that they're gonna play for this, But the
Speaker 1: whole way they set that up was completely ridiculous. When
Speaker 1: you had three baby Face tag teams that were all
Speaker 1: in the mix and the one tag team that was
Speaker 1: sitting on the outside that no matter who won, you know,
Speaker 1: in that equation they were going to face Cable in
Speaker 1: Otis and you know that's how they got to it.
Speaker 1: It's completely ridiculous. And one name that you mentioned as
Speaker 1: a member of the Women's Royal Rumble is Shana Baslor?
Speaker 1: What brand is Shana Basler on? Because I remember she
Speaker 1: was going to be tapped to attack Naomi or something
Speaker 1: like that at the forgotten that Where is she? Dude?
Speaker 1: Forget her? Where's Where's Zia Lee? Who had weeks and
Speaker 1: weeks and weeks of vignettes then she debuted and we've
Speaker 1: never seen her again. Yeah, but there's that problem with
Speaker 1: people that have been called up from n x T
Speaker 1: like that they get caught in this weird vortex and
Speaker 1: and crazy things happen, you know what I mean. Look, look,
Speaker 1: we're still waiting on Veer to show up on RAW,
Speaker 1: So God knows where Zialie is right now. Maybe she
Speaker 1: wants to hang out with Karen Q on the floor
Speaker 1: of Black Stage. At the next stage, Black Stage, Black
Speaker 1: Stage like Black Street Listen. Adam Cole and Jake Antless
Speaker 1: was the opener on Rampage and after finally seeing what happened,
Speaker 1: just total fluke injury, Jake Antless try to springboard. He
Speaker 1: landed on two feet and then he couldn't get up anymore.
Speaker 1: And Cole goes for the Panama Sunrise and Jake Atlas
Speaker 1: just dands there and then I'm cold put him in
Speaker 1: a very very safe leg lock for the submission. It
Speaker 1: looks like hopefully luckily at Last won't be out too long.
Speaker 1: So he got the m R I and you know, springboards.
Speaker 1: Everybody no back in a moment Observer Live. You're listening
Speaker 1: to wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and Mike Semperviev
Speaker 1: on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. I went to beating
Speaker 1: Jack Evans took in that match right there during the break.
Speaker 1: See if Nick Wayne were the size of of Jack
Speaker 1: Evans in that video, I'd have a match with him tomorrow. Now,
Speaker 1: Jack Evans is the size of old Shankly, so not happening.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. But he's slowly a boy. Bro,
Speaker 1: You've got You've got three times. That's like if you
Speaker 1: were the zoo and you fell into the lion enclosure
Speaker 1: and you know, eight hundred pound lion ate you and
Speaker 1: then so it was like, it's just a baby lion.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he got eaten. The kids six
Speaker 1: three for crying out loud, doesn't matter if he's sixteen,
Speaker 1: scared to death, aren't you. Yeah, He's incredible, by the way.
Speaker 1: Folks just saw him again last weekend and uh, he
Speaker 1: hasn't even hit his growth spurt yet. It is amazing.
Speaker 1: No he I think he's gonna be nine ft tall.
Speaker 1: He's six to bro heetaix t. No, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: end up six twelve. You've seen his father. I can't
Speaker 1: believe he got this tall. Well, look, you know sometimes
Speaker 1: these things miss a generation, and maybe he hain't had
Speaker 1: his growth spurt. May better go that better be number
Speaker 1: one in the top fifty. May nick Wayne hasn't hit
Speaker 1: his growth spurt yet. Well, look, he had he his
Speaker 1: growth spurt. And I know this because it was only
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He was shorter than me.
Speaker 1: Now he's twice my height. You know that means he
Speaker 1: had a growth spurt. Well, you're also shrinking, You're you're
Speaker 1: old not You gotta remember something. Kevin Garnett, when he
Speaker 1: was eighteen years old got drafted into the NBA. He
Speaker 1: ended up growing like two or three more inches and
Speaker 1: he was like six eleven or whatever the hell he
Speaker 1: ended up with its seven two or whatever. So I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. No, genetics may not be on his
Speaker 1: side from what we know of his three generations of
Speaker 1: professional wrestling in the family, but you never know. You
Speaker 1: go back to that fourth or fifth and maybe there's
Speaker 1: a man mountain grizzly there over in the Northwest that
Speaker 1: that had led to Jack Evans. You never know, Brian,
Speaker 1: he's a big kid, Jack Evans. Then we had a
Speaker 1: hook meeting Aaron Solo killed this bloke Hook is uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're weare this or not. He's
Speaker 1: the son of Tazz, so he's a badass shooter that's
Speaker 1: getting over and everyone's cheering, even though technically he's coming
Speaker 1: out of that heel tube whatever they call it tunnel,
Speaker 1: which I guess is a tube which is a very
Speaker 1: large tube under a pass and Ruby soho and riho.
Speaker 1: You know. Weird it is when like years ago, years ago,
Speaker 1: Craig and I, I'm not sure who else was in
Speaker 1: the car, maybe Vinny was in the car, but we
Speaker 1: had gone to the Red Robin and afterwards he had
Speaker 1: like some Thunderbird or some you know, gimmick eighties muscle
Speaker 1: fast car or something like that, and he decided he
Speaker 1: was gonna go really fast to show us how fast
Speaker 1: it went. And he went really fast right over the
Speaker 1: slippery railroad tracks and we ended up in the ditch.
Speaker 1: And I was telling Paisley the story. I don't know
Speaker 1: how we got on it, but I was telling her
Speaker 1: about when Daddy was was younger, you know, Uncle Craig
Speaker 1: decided he was going to drive like a like an idiot.
Speaker 1: We ended up in the ditch, and uh, she goes,
Speaker 1: what's the ditch? And suddenly occurred to me that how
Speaker 1: would she know what a ditch is? Whatever? Now? And
Speaker 1: then it's where Daddy's career is hunting, Oh, get out
Speaker 1: of here. But I I literally had to take her
Speaker 1: uh the other day and show her what a ditch was.
Speaker 1: It was funny because we're walking the side of the
Speaker 1: road and I pointed at the ditch and I go,
Speaker 1: you know that is right there. Guess what that is?
Speaker 1: She goes grass. I said, no, it's not grass. You
Speaker 1: know what that is right there? She goes a sign.
Speaker 1: I said, not the sign. You know what that thing
Speaker 1: is right there? It's a ditch. And her eyes grew wide.
Speaker 1: She goes, oh, that's where your car was, And I said, well,
Speaker 1: not that ditch. But anyway, when you have a kid,
Speaker 1: you gotta explain what stuff is because you know they're kids.
Speaker 1: Did you help Brent up? The point of that story was,
Speaker 1: but it was something I was explaining. Oh, a tunnel
Speaker 1: is a tube. It's a large tube. Anyway, Ruby, Soho
Speaker 1: and Riho beat Britt Baker and Jamie Hayder when Jamie
Speaker 1: Hayter got pinned after some shenanigans with Britt and then Britain,
Speaker 1: Jamie had got a shoving match and Britain walked out
Speaker 1: on her, which played into a lot of things. They've
Speaker 1: been doing the storyline for forever now, but on the
Speaker 1: Battle of the Belt when they did the Britt Baker
Speaker 1: ReHO match Jamie Hayder and Rebel, they kept getting involved
Speaker 1: and then uh Rebel got laid out and and then
Speaker 1: she got booted and Jamie's yelling at Britt and Riho
Speaker 1: hits his Northern Lights and the place went nuts because
Speaker 1: they bought that one. After two days worth of dissension.
Speaker 1: They thought the Riho was the new champion, but Britt
Speaker 1: kicked out and she ended up getting the win, and
Speaker 1: then Britten and Jamie had ended up hugging afterwards. So
Speaker 1: at the moment in the middle of this two year storyline,
Speaker 1: they're on the same page, but they won't be forever.
Speaker 1: I thought the Britt Baker ReHO match was really good
Speaker 1: at Battle of the Belt, but we are ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 1: The main event of Rampage was Eddie Kingston Santana Ortiz
Speaker 1: being Daniel Garcian two point oh in a in a
Speaker 1: street fight. Excellent match here, although I will say Eddie
Speaker 1: Kingston and Gabe Kid or was I like to call
Speaker 1: him Gabriel Kid because he did something wrong? Uh, Gabriel
Speaker 1: Kid and Eddie Kingston on New Jupans Strong. If you
Speaker 1: have not seen that match, that match was so awesome.
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that coming up with with Filthy and
Speaker 1: then Battle the Belt. Sammy beat Dustin Rhodes to win
Speaker 1: the interim DNT Championship. Talk about more of that in
Speaker 1: a minute. Ricky Starks beat Matt side L and as noted,
Speaker 1: we had the Britt Britt Baker Rehal match was the
Speaker 1: main event. I thought the show was good, but like
Speaker 1: if you were expecting Clash of the Champions TBS Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Big show, blah blah blah, it was like a
Speaker 1: good Rampage and I think it's gonna be difficult to
Speaker 1: make these TBS specials seem like a big, you know,
Speaker 1: semi pay per view caliber events. If the shows are
Speaker 1: only an hour, it just feels like a rampage show.
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with it. It was a good show, but
Speaker 1: it certainly did not feel like you know, in in
Speaker 1: ten years, my my daughter, who actually will have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the wrestling. But if she did, oh man,
Speaker 1: remember those Battle the Belt shows like people today reminisced
Speaker 1: about Clash of Champions. I don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like that, but who knows. If the show does well,
Speaker 1: maybe next time TBS will say, you know what, We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you two hours, then we're off to the races.
Speaker 1: What do you think about these two shows? What do
Speaker 1: you think about this interim title? I? Uh, well, I
Speaker 1: don't like it. I thought it's scoofy, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's scoofy and regular sports and regular fighting
Speaker 1: when we have you know, boxing is a ridiculous case.
Speaker 1: UFC is now getting to that point with it, and
Speaker 1: you can look at it one of two ways. You know,
Speaker 1: you had an interesting storyline there with Dustin being involved,
Speaker 1: even though they really only meant did at the very
Speaker 1: beginning of the match where we had that classic of
Speaker 1: Dustin and Dustin and Dustin and Dusty Dustin and Cody,
Speaker 1: so you could play in that direction. Plus you had
Speaker 1: Sammy I I I don't mind it because they're pulling
Speaker 1: from reality right now. Just the problem is the reality
Speaker 1: of having an interim title drives me nuts. But maybe
Speaker 1: they they had to. They told all the t n
Speaker 1: T exactly. I don't know what it is of why
Speaker 1: they had to have that match on there. They added
Speaker 1: the ft W match with with sidel and Ricky Starts.
Speaker 1: I thought that was good. If you're gonna actually have
Speaker 1: an f t W title, you know, you might as
Speaker 1: well have them defended every once in a while. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a good idea there. So I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, and Riho and Britt Baker, and I know
Speaker 1: there's some people that are, you know, maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit salty about the fact that Riho is a pawn
Speaker 1: to get more involved in Jamie Hayter and Britt Baker.
Speaker 1: But I'm fine with that, you know, I really really am.
Speaker 1: It didn't Riho didn't lose anything in the tag match.
Speaker 1: She got the win over Jamie Haydor. Yeah, she lost
Speaker 1: a Britt Baker, no big deal there. She lost to
Speaker 1: the champion, and they continued to the storyline of Jamie
Speaker 1: Hayter and Bret Baker, which I think is a money one.
Speaker 1: It really is. Yes, we could keep tabs on how
Speaker 1: long they've been doing this over two years and all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, but they've done a really good
Speaker 1: job with it, and it's a match that ultimately, when
Speaker 1: it happens, I think people are really gonna want to see.
Speaker 1: So I thought a lot accomplished. Plus Powerhouse Hobbs and
Speaker 1: Dante Martin. Martin shown some fire bump bumping heads there
Speaker 1: with Hobbs. I thought that was tremendous because I really,
Speaker 1: you know, that's one of those young people matches like
Speaker 1: we saw Darby and m JF. We've seen Darby and
Speaker 1: Sammy uh m JF. We've seen all these different young guys.
Speaker 1: Dante Martin and Powerhouse Hobbs is a little few going
Speaker 1: on right now. And getting those guys in the mix
Speaker 1: with each other, I think helps them both immensely because
Speaker 1: where each other is lacking, the other one kind of
Speaker 1: makes up for. It's a nice little mesh there. Plus
Speaker 1: you have the guys on the outside. Here's my thoughts
Speaker 1: on this, this interim title. Don't like it. Do you
Speaker 1: know what else is weird? Listen, I'm I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm an old school bloke. I like my championships
Speaker 1: like defended in matches and one and lost in the ring,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we've seen, we've seen many ways
Speaker 1: the different companies have handled a champion not being there.
Speaker 1: And definitely the champions not there, they just they'll tell
Speaker 1: you about it. They know three weeks in advance he
Speaker 1: won't be there. They still advertise, but he's just not there.
Speaker 1: I don't like that new Japan. They advertise you for
Speaker 1: a show and uh, your plane is delayed and you
Speaker 1: don't make it. You're not champion anymore. You're just stripped,
Speaker 1: like you missed one show you're advertised on and they
Speaker 1: strip you of the title and they make a new champion.
Speaker 1: Almost all of Japan, that's the case. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: And then of course he's interim titles. I mean, you know, Cody,
Speaker 1: Cody came down with COVID and you know, I I
Speaker 1: presume you know he's gonna be fine, like maybe even
Speaker 1: by Wednesday. I mean, Roman rains, Roman rains, missed Saturday
Speaker 1: and was back Friday six days later. So you know
Speaker 1: the idea, and I'm sure they've got some plan or
Speaker 1: everything like that, but you know the idea that Cody
Speaker 1: couldn't make one show and so we had to create
Speaker 1: an interim title because he couldn't make one show. I
Speaker 1: don't like it. Now, what could they have done well?
Speaker 1: As we arguing about on Friday, Mike, it's a battle
Speaker 1: of the belts? Okay, they have to have a match
Speaker 1: for a belt. Now what they have in in a
Speaker 1: doublet I don't know if you've knows this or not,
Speaker 1: but they have a lot of belts, and one of
Speaker 1: the belts it was defended, isn't even a real belt.
Speaker 1: It's the FTW title. So I mean, listen, if you
Speaker 1: don't want to do a hangman match because he was
Speaker 1: all bloody and everything like that, and you want to
Speaker 1: sell all of that title match would be important. Fine.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, Bro, I was thinking about this.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't they Where are the tag titles? Can I continue?
Speaker 1: Why couldn't they have just had Jungle Boy and Lucasource
Speaker 1: defend the tag titles to replace Cody? Okay? Now, when
Speaker 1: when I was first thinking about this. The obvious answer is, well,
Speaker 1: whoever the number one contender is for the tag team
Speaker 1: titles right now? Clearly they've got a plan and they
Speaker 1: didn't just want to throw that match on TV with
Speaker 1: no build and blow it off and then you know
Speaker 1: you have to go into whatever. But hold on a second,
Speaker 1: Dustin was not the number one contender for that title.
Speaker 1: So if you're okay putting the non number one contender
Speaker 1: in an interim championship match against Sammy, then what's the
Speaker 1: problem with putting the non number one tag team contenders
Speaker 1: in a tag team championship match because you have to
Speaker 1: do something on that day because Cody went down for
Speaker 1: Battle of the Belts where you must have championship matches,
Speaker 1: That's what I would have done. What's the point of
Speaker 1: having rankings, what's the point of having a top five?
Speaker 1: There's no rule in all of sports. When it comes
Speaker 1: to fight sports, you just have to have somebody ranked.
Speaker 1: That's one of the problems with a lot of these rankings,
Speaker 1: especially in boxing, when you look at and you know,
Speaker 1: how the hell did this person get ranked? Why are
Speaker 1: they ranked? They're ranked because that way they can sell
Speaker 1: a championship match you have all these teams. If you
Speaker 1: didn't want to have FTR defend the Triple A tag
Speaker 1: titles against someone anyone, whoever it is, then why not
Speaker 1: have the Lucha? I mean, why not have the Jurassic
Speaker 1: Express do that against even if it's a lower rated team.
Speaker 1: Make it where they defend the titles. They got a
Speaker 1: big victory, everybody shows off. Those two look great, Jungle
Speaker 1: Boys fantastic, gets the pain, they stand up, and then
Speaker 1: you could still once again do the thing where all
Speaker 1: these eyes are on them in the same way that
Speaker 1: they had to rush off the air on Wednesday. To me,
Speaker 1: that would have made a lot more sense. You're right.
Speaker 1: I would have rather have seen a battle of guys
Speaker 1: wearing belts in a six man with each other as
Speaker 1: opposed to the interim title. But that's the direction they
Speaker 1: decided to go. And again, it gives Cody a reason
Speaker 1: to come back. It gives you an built in storyline
Speaker 1: based out of real sport. It's just one of those
Speaker 1: ones that's like, this is where real sports screws up.
Speaker 1: Someone here says, well, the TNT titles have rankings. You're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, but there's a there are a million easy
Speaker 1: storylines to explain why the number one contenders aren't getting
Speaker 1: a take team Championship shot, not the least of which
Speaker 1: would the take team champion. The number one contenders are heels,
Speaker 1: and they could easily just say, bro, we're not taking
Speaker 1: our championship match on one day's notice, and so you
Speaker 1: have to go with whoever's next in line, and the
Speaker 1: young bucks are out, so you come down to proud
Speaker 1: and powerful Back in a moment Observer Life. Back in
Speaker 1: the show, bran Elba is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike
Speaker 1: Simper Vid also of Wrestling observer dot Com watching myself.
Speaker 1: I must kill myself on that backdrop. Heck's going on
Speaker 1: doing socks timing issue? Here we go. It was weird.
Speaker 1: What about my socks? I'm just making fun of him
Speaker 1: slipping there instead of just being in bar. Oh, you
Speaker 1: know everything about gymnastics and spring Lord's brother. I thought
Speaker 1: you were wrestling. Is that what this is? Glorified gymnastics?
Speaker 1: Well you think it is someone who actually did it.
Speaker 1: I know if I was gonna slip on those socks,
Speaker 1: which clearly clearly I never did. Yeah, when are you
Speaker 1: gonna start wrestling? You know too bad? You've been faking
Speaker 1: it all these years doing that. When are you gonna
Speaker 1: take that seriously? Maybe learn some some things from your
Speaker 1: old tag team partner Brian Alrez Filthy Tom Lawler, who
Speaker 1: you're about to do a show with him, probably for
Speaker 1: the second straight year, received the worst partner in the wrestling.
Speaker 1: I've been doing the fake stuff. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: How about how about seventeen straight years? This this month,
Speaker 1: not this month, but staring up years. Don't try to
Speaker 1: change it now. Seventeen years. You haven't done anything for
Speaker 1: seventeen years in your whole life, jiu jitsu for seventeen years, right,
Speaker 1: name something names something did for seventeen years. Drinks here.
Speaker 1: You're disgusting. Yeah, I love it too. You're a disgusting,
Speaker 1: filthy creilthy like filthy Tom Lawler. And hopefully I win
Speaker 1: a Filthy Award this year. Oh man, I hope you
Speaker 1: do too, brother. Oh man. Well, Tom's gonna give out
Speaker 1: the filthies today everybody, and we'll talk about nut bands strong.
Speaker 1: I think that's it. We don't really have Oh yeah, Smacktown.
Speaker 1: We gotta talk about SmackDown. Oh no, noah, it'll be fun.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm gonna wrap it up for today. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not thanking you today, Mike, Thanks Dom, best wishes
Speaker 1: to Scott, everybody in the studio, all of our Twitch homies,
Speaker 1: and talk to your YouTube subscribers all at least, talk
Speaker 1: to you next time Wrestling Observer Live. You have been
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