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Speaker 4: I am Dan Hansis and this is the Hard Knocks Podcast,

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Speaker 7: How are you brother?

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Speaker 5: Very well?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know, and I guess the big picture plan

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Speaker 4: And Rich got it of course all over NFL Network

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Speaker 8: credit card, grounded pound and try and win with the

438
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Speaker 8: Ryan where Sala is absolutely the coach of the moment

439
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Speaker 8: the Jets need in the same way Ryan was where

440
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Speaker 8: I don't need to kiss Bill Belichick's rings.

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Speaker 7: And you know, the.

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Speaker 8: Man genius who you know, really didn't have much of

443
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Speaker 8: a personality given way to Rex and his braggadociousness, which

444
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Speaker 8: definitely worked for a New York audience and for a

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Speaker 8: fan base that was, if I may say so, sick

446
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Speaker 8: and tired of getting kicked in the balls by the

447
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Speaker 8: football gods for forty years.

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Speaker 7: At that point in time.

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Speaker 8: You know, Sala just seems to be a much more

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Speaker 8: sustainable coach for the Jets, that the cult of personality

451
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Speaker 8: isn't going to run out.

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Speaker 4: And yet you know, and yet this is the year

453
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Speaker 4: three for Sala, right right, so I know, if it

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Speaker 4: doesn't happen this year, you can imagine ownership potentially making

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Speaker 4: that change, which.

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Speaker 8: Then that would be a mistake. That would be a mistake.

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Speaker 8: I think it would be a mistake. And obviously we

458
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Speaker 8: need to see how things play out from here. But honestly,

459
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 8: Joe Douglas, you know, winding up turning Elijah Moore into

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Speaker 8: a second round selection, that wound up turning into Rogers.

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Speaker 8: The drafting of the team, the way that they've been

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Speaker 8: drafting it. The smart I mean Lazard, I mean he

463
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Speaker 8: barely showed up in this first episode of Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 8: I mean, come on, Like that is a heck of

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Speaker 8: a wide receiver pickup Mikole Hardman. Also, like, this is

466
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Speaker 8: a really talented, deep team that isn't really discussed as

467
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Speaker 8: such because we are all attracted to and distracted by

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Speaker 8: the Rogers acquisition because it is so splashy and so big,

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Speaker 8: the Quinn Williams signing. Again, the defensive line is deep.

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Speaker 8: They are a deep, young, hungry team, and I guess

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Speaker 8: I'd like to see more of that over the next two,

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Speaker 8: three four weeks. But just let's keep it healthy and

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Speaker 8: cohesive and hit the ground running on the first Monday

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Speaker 8: Night of the season, because that is a big fat

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Speaker 8: piece of Filet mignon the Jets have. The league is

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Speaker 8: served up to all of us on the first Monday night.

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Speaker 8: Then a trip to Dallas, then the Belichick visit, then

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Speaker 8: the Mahomes visit, then the Week five game against Denver

479
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Speaker 8: that wasn't on anyone's marquee until Sean Payton's comments hit

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Speaker 8: open air, and then Jalen Hurts visit. So I just

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Speaker 8: need health and calm and chill and cohesiveness because the

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Speaker 8: first six weeks is going to be the crucible that

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Speaker 8: will forge this team or springboard it or even worse.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And as to your point or your your vision of

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Speaker 4: one day us both being in a building at the

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Speaker 4: super Bowl, the Jets in the end zone is another

488
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 4: famous Jets fan, Joe Beningo is known to say, from

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Speaker 4: your lips to Gadzia.

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Speaker 7: Yeah here, let me hold on, let me flex hold on, sacking.

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Speaker 5: Always go, which is walking off Mike. He's in his office.

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Speaker 7: Hold on, I'm sorry I should describe it to your

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Speaker 7: podcast on.

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Speaker 8: All right, here we go. This is at an NFL

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Speaker 8: This is the NFL Honors in Atlanta. Okay, give us Okay,

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Speaker 8: there you go. That's that's me. Well oh yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 8: let me uh hold on, there you go. That's me

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Speaker 8: with Joe Willie. Okay, there it is. And I saw

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Speaker 8: him and we hugged it out. We like we had

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Speaker 8: an And then my friend Julie from gave this to

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Speaker 8: me for my fiftieth birthday. She got to sign because

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Speaker 8: she worked for UH sports Net New York at the time,

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Speaker 8: and she got Joe Willie to sign it.

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Speaker 7: We well, we just need.

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Speaker 8: You know, we need we need This is great and

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Speaker 8: Joe Willie is the greatest and I you know, but

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Speaker 8: we need new generations to have their Yeah, like we've

508
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 8: got rich that to to coin the phrase that Lombardi

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Speaker 8: trophies lonely. And that's my way of flexing in a

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Speaker 8: way to make a point.

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Speaker 5: There you go, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, like we gotta we gotta, we gotta have our own,

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Speaker 8: you know moment here. I don't know if Rogers is

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Speaker 8: gonna hug me out like.

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Speaker 5: This, but in a big radiant smile.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know about that.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if we'll ever have that, but you know,

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Speaker 8: maybe I'll just surf off of Peter Schrager's new found friendship,

519
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 8: you know, with him, and.

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Speaker 4: Is making a tweet where he explained how it all happened, that.

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Speaker 5: I saw a big scoop, you know, no I saw that.

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Speaker 8: And again, just to wrap it all up, is that

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Speaker 8: Rogers appears to be really you know, uh at a

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Speaker 8: a in a really good state of mind here and

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Speaker 8: has really taken to New York and New York to him.

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Speaker 8: And we will just see how it all works out

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Speaker 8: once schemes are played, and you know, adversity strikes. But

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Speaker 8: so far, so good. And I thought the first episode

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Speaker 8: of Hard Knocks was just surreal. That's the only way

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Speaker 8: to put it. I can't believe it's happening. I can't

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Speaker 8: believe it's happening.

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Speaker 4: Rich and we are in the same boat. We are

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Speaker 4: in the same boat, sir. Thank you so much. You

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Speaker 4: got rich eyes and check them out on the rich

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Speaker 4: Eyes and show them of course an NFL network. We're

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Speaker 4: going to take a break and be back with Connie Fox.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back and as promised. She is my

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Speaker 4: co host on this wonderful podcast of Hard Knocks. She

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Speaker 4: is the great Connie Fox, also known as Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 4: Where are you, Colleen right now? You should be in

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Speaker 4: the studio with me. This is the premiere of the

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Speaker 4: Hard Knocks podcast.

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Speaker 5: I'm upset.

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Speaker 2: Here right now, and that's all that really matters, even

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Speaker 2: though not physically there, Dan, I'm here with you.

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Speaker 5: Very Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, I am in a hotel right now

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Speaker 2: in Seattle, looking out at the beautiful skyline and the water.

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Speaker 9: It's gorgeous here. I love the city. I'm not even

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Speaker 9: sure I can leave.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be back at studio because

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Speaker 2: I might not ever leave Seattle, but it's great. I

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00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 2: have Seahawks camp tomorrow, so I'll be on inside Training

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Speaker 2: Camp live.

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Speaker 5: Get that plug in.

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Speaker 4: I like it, Connie, and you know, this is our

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Speaker 4: second year doing this podcast, and you know we've always

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Speaker 4: been big fans of Leev Schreiber, the actor and longtime

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Speaker 4: narrator of Hard Knocks and Connie. Let's get it's like

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Speaker 4: the fun kind of nuggets from episode one.

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Speaker 5: But let's start with a it all because it's it

562
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 5: was pretty.

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00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: Meta in general that the narrator of the show gets

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Speaker 4: put into the news cycle. Here's the backstory by Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: Everything again, everything goes back to Rogers, who tells reporters

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Speaker 4: that one thing he was looking forward to in terms

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Speaker 4: of being having the cameras in the whole vibe is

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Speaker 4: Leev Schreiber because he's a fan of his work, and

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Speaker 4: so on and so forth. So what what I mean

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Speaker 4: the budget, Connie? What the budget of NFL Films and HBO?

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Speaker 4: Do they split the check? They rent a helicopter to

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Speaker 4: have the man flown in to the middle of the practice,

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Speaker 4: and and and then you ask Leev Schreiber to narrate

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Speaker 4: his own arrival on Hard Knocks. And as people fans

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Speaker 4: of this show know this podcast, we do not have

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Speaker 4: contractually the ability to use Leev's voice on this program.

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Speaker 5: Legally it's a big time no go.

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Speaker 4: But we do have Jason Zummol to read transcription from

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Speaker 4: an episode hit it.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes when a show is truly epic, it pulls out

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Speaker 6: all the stops.

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Speaker 5: Full disclosure. I wanted to drive, but the producers thought

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Speaker 5: a helicopter might.

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Speaker 7: Be more dramatic.

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Speaker 5: Should have ironed my shirt.

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Speaker 4: I'm alt on point as always, the voice of God

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Speaker 4: for atn and the voice of God of NFL Films.

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Speaker 5: Meeting once more, Connie the.

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Speaker 4: Schreiber coming down to practice, awkward chit chat, all great stuff,

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Speaker 4: and then it led to one of my favorite parts

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Speaker 4: of the episode, one of the things we talked about

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Speaker 4: last week, Connie about like, what is it about the

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Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett and Aaron Rodgers of it all, this relationship

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Speaker 4: that has helped create this whole system or situation for

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Speaker 4: the Jets right now? And here's Rogers who was just

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Speaker 4: giddy about meeting Schreiber and thought that all these young

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Speaker 4: twenty four year old quarterbacks around them should be like

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Speaker 4: super amped up about this veteran character actor. Here is

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Speaker 4: Rogers and Hackett kind of sniping at each other in

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Speaker 4: a way that only good buddies can.

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Speaker 10: Wait. Say right, he's nervous, he won't say you know me,

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Speaker 10: people feel comfortable. He's never been to a hard knocks practice. Overwhelming,

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Speaker 10: Just say hi, just be nice, look at him. Hey,

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Speaker 10: if you don't dressed up for.

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Speaker 4: It, slam slim, say hi to Ifaniel Hackett say hi,

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Speaker 4: it's striver.

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Speaker 9: Okay, all right, I have so many thoughts here.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Zumbwalt, I almost forgot how accurate he

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Speaker 2: is with these impressions. It is just so spot on,

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Speaker 2: It's so well done. I love his driver. The helicopter itself.

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Speaker 9: Was so extra but also so perfect.

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Speaker 5: I loved it much.

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Speaker 9: I loved it.

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Speaker 5: The jets are the jets kicking it on it.

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Speaker 9: Oh, of course, I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: I guess this.

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Speaker 9: Blade blade is like a thing in New York. It's

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Speaker 9: almost like a helicopter uber. I have no I don't

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Speaker 9: have that type of money. I would have no idea

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Speaker 9: where to start with.

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Speaker 4: It has to be it might five from five hundred

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Speaker 4: to fifty thousand dollars is what I'm going to stay for.

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Speaker 4: My guess of how much it cost it to bring

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Speaker 4: in s Treiber on.

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Speaker 2: The on the HELLI I would say definitely more than

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Speaker 2: five hundred.

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Speaker 9: I'm taking the over.

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Speaker 2: But maybe they've worked out a deal because they got

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Speaker 2: the blade promotion in on the show, so who knows.

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Speaker 2: Who knows what kind of strings HBO can poll. But

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Speaker 2: the producers were absolutely correct.

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Speaker 9: It was super dramatic. That's an insane entrance.

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Speaker 2: Uh And of course Leam Dreiver kind of he seemed

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Speaker 2: a little bashful about it, which I kind of loved,

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Speaker 2: and he also just kind of came off as a

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Speaker 2: little humble in general when he.

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Speaker 9: Talked of out the fact that he doesn't really do anything.

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Speaker 2: It's just his voice and he's just ripping off John

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Speaker 2: DESCENTA like that I was into, and I loved Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers sort of fan boying over him and thinking that

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Speaker 2: everyone else was going to feel the same way that

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Speaker 2: exchange with Haack.

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Speaker 5: It was so cute, I think it was.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was endearing for all parties involved in Connie.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that's great about you is your awkwardness,

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Speaker 4: which I always enjoy in various social settings, and Shreiber

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Speaker 4: just gets kind of put in a weird spot because

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Speaker 4: it made sense to ask, Hey, do you want to

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Speaker 4: be go down to camp Rogers mentioned you. Then he

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Speaker 4: gets there and it's like, yeah, it's not everyone is

651
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Speaker 4: going to know who he is, so he's standing there.

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Speaker 4: But Rogers was nice, and it just I think it

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Speaker 4: was something very real about Rogers sensing that Shreiber should

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Speaker 4: be getting more attention because he was brought in here

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Speaker 4: on a helicopter. So he's like, let me get my

656
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Speaker 4: buddy Hacket to help me out here and try to

657
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: make this a little less awkward in his mind, and

658
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: Hackett was like, I don't know, man.

659
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: And then even one of.

660
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: The quarterbacks on the Jets, one of the guys deep

661
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: on the depth chart, Rogers, this is Aaron Rodgers.

662
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 5: Come on, man, go say hi to him. Go say

663
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 5: hi to And finally the quarterback's like, I'm talking to

664
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 5: the coach. Can't I know?

665
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 9: Rogers is like, he's the voice of God. Don't you know.

666
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 7: Who this is?

667
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 9: And then I just thought it was.

668
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: Really sweet that his whole thing with Hackett, the way

669
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: that he was trying to persuade Hackett to go over

670
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: was like, come on, he's never been to a hard

671
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: knocks practice, like he just let's just make him feel comfortable.

672
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: Let's just be nice people with that. Once again, I

673
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: thought was really sweet on a human level. So I

674
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: was into the whole thing. It was absurd.

675
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I thought they did a nice job not

676
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: hammering the Sean Payton storyline because at this point it's

677
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks old, but we did get to

678
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 4: see a little bit of that Pylon game, and they

679
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: use the old psych out technique from the South Park

680
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: Guy's movie Basketball, And at one point when Hacket's about

681
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: to throw the ball, Rogers goes Sean Payton and he's like, oh, yeah,

682
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 4: that's a good one. You psych me out with that one.

683
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's interesting. You also get like, you know,

684
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 4: more of an idea of Hacket and and maybe that'll

685
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: come up a little bit later.

686
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: What else kind of did you like from this episode?

687
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so there were a few things. I love the

688
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: music in this episode in general.

689
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 9: I there were so always.

690
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: Now with the music on the show, always goad.

691
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean like there were They even had a little

692
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: bit of the Police in there.

693
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 9: I thought as well.

694
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: I knew that you would flag that they had greatness

695
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: on there by Quavo in the Sauce and Garrett Wilson montage.

696
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 9: Which was timed perfectly. That song is great. And then

697
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 9: they had a little.

698
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: Cream which is a Wu Tang method Man classic, the

699
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: instrumental version of it, and they played it after Meth

700
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: broke the huddle, and I think we have some of that.

701
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 9: Can you pay it?

702
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: All right?

703
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: I want to do a quote from Bill parce Elves,

704
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: it's down all right with y'all, all right, all right,

705
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: you can pull the whole world down the highway of

706
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 3: years and take pats on the back as you pay,

707
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: but your final reward will be herded in tears if

708
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: you cheat. The Man in the Glass Jets three two three, Yeah, I.

709
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: Mean having method Man at practice, Like the Jets are

710
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: just sexy as hell. I love this team, I love

711
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: everything about them, but having method Man there, I am.

712
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: I would be fangirling all over the place. If I

713
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: was at that training camp that day.

714
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 9: I was in Pittsburgh.

715
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Ce Swiss Senior was at Jets practice and he was

716
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: fanboying over method Man like that was Method Man was

717
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: my first ever concert.

718
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 9: It was Redman and Method Man and having Meth.

719
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: Do a Bill Parcells quote like I just I need

720
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: someone to remix that. I need someone to put the

721
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: cream beat under it. Maybe I don't know, but there

722
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: was Ed Sheeran, there was the Poppin'.

723
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 9: Song huh Like. There was just so many good ones.

724
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: So my expectations for like the season now are higher

725
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: than ever.

726
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: I remember like being in high school and learning that

727
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 4: cream he meant cash rules everything around me and just

728
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: thinking that was the coolest thing I'd ever heard in

729
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: my life.

730
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 9: I mean it's not not true.

731
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, the music is always uh epic on

732
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 4: this show.

733
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 5: I thought, you know, let's me and you're a solid fan.

734
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 9: Too, Connie, as we know of his coaching.

735
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure he I thought it was so nice.

736
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: I was very excited to get finally some context, you know,

737
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: when the Sean Payton thing went down, and he does the.

738
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 5: You know, if you ain't got haters, you ain't popping.

739
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: But also then he's talking about he's talking about crows

740
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: and suffocating and like I think everyone collectively was a

741
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 4: football fans like shrugging the shoulders.

742
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 5: Like, what the hell is this guy talking about? And

743
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 5: then uh, it is.

744
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 9: It was very Dan Campbell asked.

745
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: Yes, and then you cut though to the opening of

746
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: the show and we heard the the tail end of

747
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: his speech at the top of our recap here or

748
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 4: our podcast. The beginning of the first thing we hear

749
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: from sala is explaining the theory that the crows they're

750
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: the only bird crazy enough to go after hawks, and

751
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: the hawks have the ability eagles, excuse me, eagles have

752
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 4: the ability to fly high, and then the crows get

753
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: too high and they suffocate and fall to the ground.

754
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 5: And die, and I was just like, thank you.

755
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 4: I needed a little bit more to I was a

756
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: little concerned that my team's head coach might be going crazy.

757
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: Now I'm like, okay, it kind of connects to a

758
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: private conversation he had with the team, and now it

759
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: all made sense. Thank you for context and clarity on

760
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: the on the crow thing.

761
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: I'm happy.

762
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: I did also enjoy as he was giving that that

763
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: whole speech that there were just guys like that were

764
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: getting really into it.

765
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 9: In the background when.

766
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: He was talking about the crows just like falling to

767
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: earth and dying.

768
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 9: They were like, let's go, the crows are gonna die.

769
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 9: And it's like, I don't know, it feels a little disturbing, Like.

770
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 4: I'm a picture of like Sean Payton going too high

771
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 4: into the altitude and then just like free falling to

772
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 4: a staff and earth. You know, it's pretty hard, Like

773
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: he went pretty hard with that. Any other what are

774
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 4: some of the things that you liked in the episode?

775
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So I felt like we got an early indication

776
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: of our underdog for the season, Chas Surat, the linebacker.

777
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: It seemed like Salah absolutely loves him, but he's also

778
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: like a.

779
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 9: Third string guy, and I don't think. I think he

780
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 9: played one.

781
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: Game last year for the Jets, So I am interested

782
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: to see if that ends up being a thread throughout

783
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: the season.

784
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: And what part of the episode was he I'm kind

785
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 5: of not.

786
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 9: This was in the Hall of Fame game.

787
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: He had an interception I think in the Hall of

788
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: Fame game and Sala was like.

789
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 9: He's so fast, that's my guy, keeps stacking.

790
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 5: He's so good, very very good. Astute. You're a Hard

791
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: Knocks fan.

792
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: When they have the coach miked up doing something in

793
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 4: a game, they are going to come back to that

794
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 4: player and track him. And I thought I thought rich

795
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: Eisen made a good point earlier. It seemed like a

796
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: mortal lock that Dalvin Cook would be in this episode

797
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: after the hoopla around his visit to the camp and

798
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: taking a physical and taking selfies and you know all that.

799
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 4: And then I was thinking in my head, I was like, hmm,

800
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 4: is that a little bit of a hint that maybe

801
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: the Jets are looking to distance themselves from that situation,

802
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 4: or more likely Hard Knocks producers are waiting for that

803
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: story line to see itself through and then they could

804
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: kind of use all this footage that they got earlier

805
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: in camp and tied together with his arrival.

806
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 5: Maybe as soon as episode two, we shall see.

807
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: I would think that it's the latter because I was

808
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: kind of thinking the same thing. I also just as

809
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: like a final little note, I kind of loved that

810
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: Jason Garrett randomly caught some strays in the episode. That

811
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 2: was so random and the guys were like, we can't

812
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: have the option here, and they were like, is that

813
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: Jason Garrett is that the Cowboys ex coach?

814
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 5: Wasn't he?

815
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 9: What the giants like that? I had like a kind

816
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 9: of love deep down.

817
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 5: I had a bit of a dad moment.

818
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: And Eric Robert's the producer behind the Glass, had to

819
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: help me out with that. Eric, what was the best

820
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: was your description of what Jason Garrett being compared to ops?

821
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: What does that mean? You should like, please snitch the

822
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: rivals opponent. You don't want to mess with the ops.

823
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 5: You don't want to do it.

824
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: We don't need the ops in the building, we don't

825
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 4: need them on the practice field.

826
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: Dan, next episode, we'll tell you what the block is

827
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: hot means.

828
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: I know what cream means. Uh, let's do MVP.

829
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: It's time, Okay, all right, So listeners, new listeners, Hi,

830
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: how are you?

831
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 5: I'm Dan and that's Colleen, speaking of awkward.

832
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 4: We do an MVP, but it's a voting system, and

833
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 4: you just heard from Eric Roberts. Eric, this all falls

834
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 4: on you are great. Former producer Justin Graver handled these

835
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: duties last summer. We need someone to tabulate this and

836
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 4: track it. Connie and I cannot do it. Connie actually

837
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: privately told me last summer I'm talent, I don't do math,

838
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: and I was like, that was weird but also true,

839
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 4: and I agree with that. So here's the system. I

840
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 4: don't know if this is the point system last year,

841
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: but it.

842
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 5: Is this year.

843
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 9: It was complicated last year. Have no idea, so.

844
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 5: Maybe it's the same one.

845
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: I remember the term vector point scale or something vector

846
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: point scale.

847
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: That sounds cool.

848
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: Whatever that is, we're gonna do it again. So it's

849
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: a vector scoring system. First place, We're gonna do a first, second,

850
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: and third place MVP vote every episode, and then we're

851
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 4: gonna tally it up at the end of the year

852
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: and then name Hard Knocks MVP. A first place vote

853
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: is six points in the vector system, a second place

854
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 4: vote is four points, and a third place vote is

855
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: two points.

856
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: Does that sound right? Sounds close enough?

857
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 9: So you're just taking this up right?

858
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell?

859
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 9: Great?

860
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 5: All right to me?

861
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: Who's your third place MVP vote for episode one of

862
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: Hard Knocks Training Camp with the New York Jets.

863
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 9: Okay, third place goes to Solomon Thomas.

864
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: I absolutely love I love the personalities on this defensive line,

865
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: and I thought that Solomon Thomas was involved in the

866
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: best exchange of the entire show because there were so

867
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: many little things to pick out of that at one exchange.

868
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 9: Can we play the quote so everyone could hear it?

869
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's play this this exchange Solomon Thomas, and I'll

870
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 4: just see it up dustly. So it reminded me this

871
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: group of defensive linemen like they were like squabbling Irish

872
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: brothers on Christmas Eve. Solomon Thomas in the role of

873
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: no all older brother, Tanzel Smart as the kid brother

874
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 4: who tags along even when he's unwanted, but they all

875
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 4: love each other.

876
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 5: It's that type of setup. Let's listen in attention. I'm

877
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 5: not always want to sticking up. I always want to

878
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 5: sticking up for you.

879
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: You remember you said you don't want me to go

880
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: to Broadway.

881
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 5: Let's let's just get it up. I said that.

882
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 7: I said that because I feel like you'd be talking

883
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 7: during the play, and I want you to respect the performers.

884
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll get you. I can't. It's actually got bad.

885
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 7: I want to eat aucie board.

886
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 9: Oh my, that's the mountaintop. That's it right there, and

887
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 9: so just.

888
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 5: End the show. Just end the show. Let's be honest.

889
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 9: It's so good.

890
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 5: It's so good.

891
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: It started because Solomon Thomas was like, I promise I'll

892
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: take the whole D line, like on the next off day,

893
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: I'll take the whole D line to MJ the musical.

894
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: And then John Franklin Myers was like, well, we want

895
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: a suite, and Solomon Thomas was like, there's no sweet

896
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: broath like and then it kind of like went on

897
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: from there. So I just kind of loved the idea

898
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: of the defensive line going to a Broadway show together

899
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: and then bickering about the seats, wanting a suite, and

900
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: then obviously the charcuterie board of it all was perfect.

901
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 5: A perfect right.

902
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: Smart thinks like Broadway is like Ford's Theater, and he

903
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: would have one of those those gold like little binoculars

904
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: that he'd been watching up from the from the top.

905
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: I that that's a Carcucci board that is outrageous and

906
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: beautiful and I love it. Great third place vote I

907
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 4: will go with for my third place, and it's tough,

908
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 4: but I will give it to say I want to

909
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: give it to Leev Schreiber, but I think that will

910
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: be a waste of my vote, just because I don't

911
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: imagine he's going to insert himself in the program.

912
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 2: You need to focus on the now being present, right now,

913
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: who do you want to don't even think about the

914
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 2: next voting?

915
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett. Okay, he's my third place vote. I thought

916
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: I thought that Hackett was kind of exactly what I

917
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: was expecting, but maybe a little weirder and sillier than

918
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 4: I realized. And I and you see why Rogers for all,

919
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 4: I think there's something there where when you see all

920
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 4: these young guys going up to Rogers, even someone like

921
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner, who's an instant superstar, it's almost like a

922
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 4: little kid talking to Rogers and and the and and

923
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: Sauces trying to talk to Rogers before the Hall of

924
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: Fame game, and he's just kind of going on and

925
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 4: on and it's not exactly clear what what he what

926
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: he's saying, and Rogers is very succinct and sure but

927
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 4: purposeful in what he's saying, almost like a dad talking

928
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: to his son. It's had that, it had that that vibe,

929
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: and so so many player players and people around Rogers

930
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 4: in his universe, I think, speak to him in almost

931
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 4: a state of awe as this living legend. And Hackett

932
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 4: is a guy that's just like messing with him like

933
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: he's a buddy. And I think that's part of the

934
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: reason why Rogers likes having him around, just somebody that

935
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: will treat him like a regular person and not this

936
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 4: this other worldly figure.

937
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 9: Yeah.

938
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: And I also loved just like the little montage that

939
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: they did of Hackett where he's like, I.

940
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 9: Just want to fly around like a butterfly. Ooh, let's

941
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 9: hear it. I want to hear it. I want to

942
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 9: fly around like a butterfly.

943
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: We might be using that often. I also want to

944
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: thank Hackett. And I don't know how this is, you know,

945
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: because I was just at Cowboys Camp County. You're not

946
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 4: the only one going to camps.

947
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 5: You know.

948
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 9: Oh, look at you.

949
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 4: And Mike McCarthy is still doing Mojo moments over there,

950
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 4: which is a callback to the second Austin Powers movie,

951
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: which I thought was okay. The first one total classic,

952
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: stolen the cold classic comedy of its era. Second one, Yeah,

953
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 4: Spyo Shagny, It's fine. Third one I thought was kind

954
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 4: of a mess and kind of a disaster. Gold Member,

955
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: but Hackett loves it so much that he bases entire

956
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: like schemes and discussions about Red Zone, which he calls

957
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 4: the gold Gold Zone because of his obsession with gold

958
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: Member the sequel, and I just I'm not down with

959
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: Gold Member, but I am down with anything that leads

960
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: to Aaron Rodgers saying gold Genitalia on Premium cable, I'm

961
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 4: down with that.

962
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 9: I flagged this as well.

963
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: I love Hackett's obsession with gold Member, and then Aaron

964
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: Rodgers talking about it and saying like that Hackett wants

965
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: to know about, like how well how he got his

966
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: gold Genitalia where he likes to party, how he roller skates,

967
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: like that whole thing.

968
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 9: But I also loved.

969
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 2: By the way Rogers a story about Hackett and the

970
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 2: fact that Hackett, when he was in Green Bay, noticed

971
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: that Brian Bulaga wasn't celebrating with the team after touchdowns

972
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: and that you know, Hackett loved the Lambeau leap, but

973
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: also wanted them to celebrate with teammates as well, and

974
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: so then he ended up getting Bilaga to celebrate.

975
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 9: And it was like, Oh, that's so nice that.

976
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: He cultivated this like this team friendly atmosphere and these

977
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: like relationships between people.

978
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 9: So I'm with you on that. That's a good one.

979
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 5: All right, your second place vote for MVP of the episode.

980
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 9: Okay, my second place vote goes to Aaron Rodgers.

981
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 5: Now, oh wow, upset. I know I don't think. I

982
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 5: don't agree with this, but go.

983
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: Ahead, Well you have yours, I have mine. Rogers I

984
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: think has the constant main character energy throughout the whole show. Yes,

985
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: he was like chewing up scenery in the beginning. And

986
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: I love the fact that his teammates love his personality.

987
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: They talk about how cool he is, and they talk

988
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: about whatever they say on TV about him is a lie.

989
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 9: And there was a whole thing about his no Look passes.

990
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: But I especially love the fact that he was so

991
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: complimentary to and about Zach Wilson, and he was talking

992
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: about Zach Wilson's NOLA passes and working with him and

993
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: answering his questions and celebrating with him after that bomb

994
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: of a pass in the Hall of Fame game that

995
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: was fun, also alluding to his off season hobby of psychedelics.

996
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: Perhaps you can connect those dots if you want.

997
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 5: How about his handshake with saus Well that.

998
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 9: I mean that will be part of another.

999
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: Of all right, hold that thought. Then, I know we

1000
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: talked about it with rich eyes in a little bit,

1001
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: that Wilson is in such an awkward situation, and you

1002
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: can see that's Rogers in his way, trying to make

1003
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 4: an awkward situation a little bit less awkward by making

1004
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: him seem like he's still a guy that you know,

1005
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: is you can get excited about by the way straight

1006
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: thought about Zach Wilson. No, he You don't have him

1007
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 4: coming up again here, do you? Is he getting younger?

1008
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 4: Are we reverse aging?

1009
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 3: Yes?

1010
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 4: Yes, he looks like he still looks like a rookie

1011
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: or now even like maybe like a high school senior.

1012
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: At one point they cut to him at halftime in

1013
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame game and he's eating what was it,

1014
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 4: like a Smucker's.

1015
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: Done crustables.

1016
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then you know when he's in the huddle.

1017
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 4: He's like, come on, he like Bak basically echoes something

1018
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: that Rogers said earlier in camp. I think the thing

1019
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: you kind of called out that you really liked in

1020
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: our preview episode where he was like, come on, guys,

1021
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 4: we don't know how long will we be able to

1022
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 4: do this, so let's enjoy it. And it's like, it's

1023
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: just you. It just seemed like a boy like you.

1024
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 9: He's like a kid, a kid brother and uh.

1025
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 4: And the fact that Rogers is there, which is the

1026
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: epitome or the opposite end of things.

1027
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 5: This grizzled veteran approaching age forty. It's wild.

1028
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: It's not really a shot at Wilson. It's just it's stunning,

1029
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: really how cherubic he still appears to be. He needs,

1030
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 4: you know what, he needs a beard? How about that?

1031
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 5: If you can do it, Zach, it might be time

1032
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 5: for the beard. It might be time. All right.

1033
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: My second place, I think we flipped. I think we flipped.

1034
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: So I have Sala as my second place. And it's

1035
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 4: not a shot on Sala. I think he was exactly

1036
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 4: what I thought he was going to be. And it

1037
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: is brought it up with Rich like it is. There's

1038
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure on Sala here as exciting and

1039
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: everything is, you know, sunshine and rainbows right now around

1040
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: the Jets, but there's also this reality that this is

1041
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: year three for Sala And you go show me the

1042
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: list of NFL coaches in the past twenty five years

1043
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 4: who have gotten a fourth year if they didn't make

1044
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs by year three. So it's it in a

1045
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 4: playoff or bust year potentially for Sala. He obviously feels

1046
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 4: like he's in a very good spot, and he is.

1047
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 4: And one difference we talked about earlier about how different

1048
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 4: it is beyond just the obvious the Farv and Rogers

1049
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 4: of all and Rich had mentioned that Farv was joining

1050
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 4: a much less talented team than Rogers is, and that's true.

1051
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: But also a difference in these situations two thousand and

1052
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 4: eight to twenty twenty three is how much better the

1053
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 4: AFC is now compared to the field in eight. Remember

1054
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight when Brett Fahr was there,

1055
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: Tom Brady blows his ACL in Game one and is

1056
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: out for the year. That was a wide open conference.

1057
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 4: This year, you look at the AFC now and it

1058
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 4: is a gauntlet. The top of the season's a gauntlet

1059
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 4: for the Jets, and there are so many teams that

1060
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: are just starving, like the Jets, the Bills, the Bengals,

1061
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 4: the name just two. And then of course the Chiefs

1062
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 4: are there waiting that it's going to be a very

1063
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 4: tough ride. It's gonna be very difficult for this team

1064
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: to win ten, eleven, twelve games despite all this optimism.

1065
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 5: So just tempering in a little bit.

1066
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 4: But Salad, despite all that pressure behind the scenes are

1067
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 4: under the hood, feels like a guy. It's very confident

1068
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 4: in himself and in this team.

1069
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: I you know, I love me some Robert sala Actually,

1070
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: when I was at Niners camp yesterday, I asked Kyle Shanahan,

1071
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: like how he's going to be on hard knocks and

1072
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: like how.

1073
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 9: He like will actually like secretly deal with it.

1074
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: And Shanahan was like, Oh my god, He's going to

1075
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: pretend like he doesn't like it, but he's going to

1076
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: love it. He's going to make sure that he lifts

1077
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: his weights before the cameras turn on, that he has

1078
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: a fresh shave, like.

1079
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 9: He will be ready for it. Oh yeah, however he's not.

1080
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 9: He's not in my MVP voting. I need you know

1081
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 9: I need to pump the brakes a little bit.

1082
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: It's a long season of hard knocks, so my number

1083
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 2: one is a little bit of a surprise.

1084
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: Whoa Yeah, you know you could costs all MVP by

1085
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: leaving them out.

1086
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 5: Of the no haters you ain't popping?

1087
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, you leave him out of the vector

1088
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 4: scoring system for an entire week. That's trouble for his

1089
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 4: chances to win the whole damn thing. So it shows

1090
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 4: what a fan you actually are. I do want to

1091
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 4: hear now Now I'm fascinating. Who's number one?

1092
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: No, so my number one MVP And it really was because.

1093
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 9: Of this handshake. It's got for me. It's Sauce gard Gardener.

1094
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 5: The ant jake was so good.

1095
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: They do they take a hit of something, then they

1096
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: put it out on another teammate.

1097
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 9: It's creative, it's fun. I haven't seen it before.

1098
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: I also just love the dynamic of him and Garrett Wilson.

1099
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: They have such different personalities, but they're so competitive and

1100
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: Sauce is such a chirper, like you could tell he

1101
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 2: just loves to get under people's skin.

1102
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 9: And then you have Garrett Wilson who's kind of like this.

1103
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: Sweet boyish kind of guy next to him, and Sauce

1104
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: is just very fiery and sassy. And then I just

1105
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 2: also loved that he graduated. And you know, I when

1106
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: he was putting on his graduation cap, his family was like, oh, like,

1107
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: you know, he doesn't want to mess.

1108
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 9: Up his hair. I felt that. I really felt that

1109
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 9: in a way that I there.

1110
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: I hated putting on the grift graduation cap. I hated

1111
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: getting my picture with it on.

1112
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 5: Its kind of a silly look. Altogether.

1113
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 4: That's maybe something we could kind of transition out of

1114
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 4: years go on.

1115
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 9: Why why not?

1116
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: Why are we still doing this? I like the fact

1117
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: that he said it felt like a game day, but

1118
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: he wasn't nervous, and it was sweet that everyone was.

1119
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 9: Coming up to him and being like, have a great season.

1120
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1121
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 9: Said that he didn't have a chance.

1122
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: To graduate high school because he was in camp already,

1123
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: so this was the first time that he actually got

1124
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: a chance to walk across the stage, and I thought

1125
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: that was nice.

1126
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I can almost I could like picture it

1127
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: right now, like a cranky column from Phil Mushnik in

1128
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: The New York Post, like explaining why that handshake between

1129
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 4: Sauce and Rogers is everything that's wrong with the Jets

1130
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: and sports in America or whatever. Calm down, take a seat, relax.

1131
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: That was just two guys having fun and enjoying. And

1132
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 4: Roger is obviously famous for his extracurricular activities, which hav't

1133
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: slowed him down from winning four MVPs in a Super Bowl.

1134
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: Love it and it was great as advertising as predicted

1135
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 4: on our preview episode, I think Sauce and seeing Gardner

1136
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 4: excusely Sauce and Wilson on the practice field together is

1137
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: just fun. And it's just like, these two guys are

1138
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: the future of the Jets and the potentially a future

1139
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: kind of the AFC, and here they are going to

1140
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 4: add it every practice. Someone might say, and I won't

1141
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 4: because it's cheesy and cliche and overdone. That iron sharpens Iron,

1142
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I will.

1143
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 5: Not say it.

1144
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 9: I've heard it at every single camp.

1145
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: I honestly like, it's Iron versus Iron season his training

1146
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: camp and like that, there's nothing we can.

1147
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 5: Do about it, right right?

1148
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, so my my first place vote does go

1149
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 4: to Aaron Rodgers, and you know, I think he'd absolutely

1150
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 4: like Salah is leaned into this and despite all the

1151
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 4: talk about who we don't want to do it or

1152
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 4: stuff you may have heard.

1153
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 5: Rogers is all about it.

1154
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 4: Rogers loves this moment and he loves this time, and

1155
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 4: he I loved how the way the episode started, kind

1156
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 4: of tying back to how we started today's show that

1157
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 4: walked to the field and just a guy that's basking

1158
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 4: in this moment on this in this second act to

1159
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 4: his career, he could say he went into the darkness

1160
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 4: for five days and was ninety percent retired. I watch

1161
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 4: a guy, you know, hugging Randall Cobb after the DeMarcus

1162
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: ware his national anthem and saying I love you it's

1163
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 4: you know, it never gets old, brother, love you like

1164
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 4: and seeing the passion he has for the sport and

1165
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 4: talking with the guys and and just chopping it up

1166
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 4: and the skill obviously the skill he still has, and.

1167
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 5: How easy he makes it all. Look, this guy was

1168
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 5: not going to retire.

1169
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 4: It was all part of a bigger, you know, idea

1170
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 4: with Rogers and a conversation that's fair about like is

1171
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 4: this guy for real or is he full of it?

1172
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 7: Like?

1173
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 4: Who is Aaron Rodgers? But you know, some people might

1174
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 4: even say bad things about Aaron Rodgers. But to that

1175
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 4: you can reply.

1176
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: Whatever they say about A and Rogers on TV is

1177
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: a lie.

1178
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 5: Yes that is true, or maybe it's not true. I

1179
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 5: don't know, but I will.

1180
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: I've been vocal in criticism of Rogers in the past,

1181
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 4: but he is the right guy for this team right now,

1182
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: and I thought this episode showed that he is kind

1183
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 4: of the sun in which all the planets around of

1184
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 4: the New York Jets are rotating around. So Rogers gets

1185
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: it for me, and we'll see where things go from here. Connie,

1186
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 4: anything else you want to get in before we say goodbye?

1187
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 9: No, I think that was a great first episode.

1188
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 5: Like I right start, I agree.

1189
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: I love this like they started, like they came out swinging,

1190
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: and so I expect this rest of the season to

1191
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 2: be just as good because I was like stopping myself

1192
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: from texting you the entire time in real time as

1193
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: I watched it.

1194
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 9: We're gonna have a ton to talk about, a ton

1195
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 9: to talk about.

1196
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 5: Connie is gonna be back in studio with me next week.

1197
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 9: I am.

1198
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 4: I love it Connie and Dan together and hopefully you

1199
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 4: with us along for the ride as we go through

1200
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 4: each the five episodes, And just like this one, it

1201
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 4: lands Tuesday, night, right after the airing of Hard Knocks,

1202
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: and it's there for you, for us to discuss this

1203
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 4: great show in this very interesting Jets team until next week.

1204
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 5: Heat the Call