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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to a special episode of Pod Meets World. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode is brought to you by twenty three and Me,

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<v Speaker 1>which you guys have heard us now over almost an

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<v Speaker 1>entire season of Boy Meets World, talking a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>our background actors and how important they were to the

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<v Speaker 1>feel of the show, to our set environment, how we

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<v Speaker 1>were friends with a lot of them. I'm gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>right off by saying, spoiler alert, there is no Dusty

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode. I'm really bummed about it. We have

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<v Speaker 1>been on a on a worldwide search for Dusty Gould. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't heard from seem by the way that came up.

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<v Speaker 1>You called her see Me to her face, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she knew her name was see Me. Well, yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the people thought that it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>behind her back sort of thing. Oh my gosh. Yeah no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think there was something a little mean

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<v Speaker 1>about it at first, but then it just became that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. We don't remember her name because we always

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<v Speaker 1>called her see Me, and she responded to it like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we did. Um. It was just because it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first week of the first season that we

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<v Speaker 1>asked her where she was from and she said see

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<v Speaker 1>me Valley and um. So we were just like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, you're so you're a Valley girl. We'll call

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<v Speaker 1>you see me um, but yeah, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her. Yeah. And Dusty, we're still on a hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>so you never know. But we are going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to a few of our other background actors today because

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<v Speaker 1>it is very important for us and everyone to know

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<v Speaker 1>your background, speaking of which I am coming to you today.

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<v Speaker 1>So sleep deprived, and I guess it's really come to

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<v Speaker 1>my attention through my twenty three and me results that

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<v Speaker 1>I am less likely to be a deep sleeper, which

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Isn't that what it said? Yes, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're can say this from your jeans. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>it cool? By the way, another thing that I think

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing is that it tells me I am most

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<v Speaker 1>I am more likely to be photo sensitive, which means

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<v Speaker 1>I might sneeze when looking at the sun. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, I have never once walked into the

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<v Speaker 1>sun and not sneezed the exact same way. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see that. Where did this say that? Of your

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<v Speaker 1>so much to read? I don't like like I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>explored all all the ins and out, and that's really

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<v Speaker 1>That's the really cool thing is that there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many different reports and some of them are just really fun,

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<v Speaker 1>like finding out you're more likely to be photo sensitive.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also more likely to drink more caffeine than most,

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<v Speaker 1>and that checks right off right? Would you probably have

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<v Speaker 1>that too. I'm less likely to drink caffeine than most,

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<v Speaker 1>and I drink no caffeine. I have no caffeine in

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<v Speaker 1>my life whatsoever. And it says I'm less like and

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<v Speaker 1>I am not likely to be an especially deep sleeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't get you. We were talking about delta

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<v Speaker 1>ways or something. Now as I heard what you're explaining

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Danielle, I'm a superhero, did you? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>explain it wrong? That's what's said, uh, superhuman, you have

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<v Speaker 1>mediclorians or whatever it is, and that you're a Jedi. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, let's not that's that's it's in my

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<v Speaker 1>jeans though, that apparently due to my sleep patterns. That's

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<v Speaker 1>because of the underwear. That's because of the underwear. That too,

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<v Speaker 1>The underwear just makes me lucky twenty three and me

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<v Speaker 1>is telling me I'm a weak hold on. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about ancestry. Just really quick. Did you guys learn anything

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<v Speaker 1>new or totally? So? What was what was the story

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<v Speaker 1>that your family told you and the reality of your Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that my family told me something that was

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<v Speaker 1>just we just heard that we were Dutch and Irish

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<v Speaker 1>in German primarily. Um, that's what I knew. And it

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<v Speaker 1>come came out that I am almost Jewish. Nice, I

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<v Speaker 1>am nine ash can Nazi Jewish. Wow, And you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, no idea whatsoever. And of course then when

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<v Speaker 1>I said that to my my parents, my dad was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course my great grandfather was do or something where

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, well, why did anybody tell about that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so that was completely I'm I'm I'm nine

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<v Speaker 1>point eight percent European and it's mostly northwestern European, so

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<v Speaker 1>British and Irish. What we thought, Um, lots of Irish,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of lots of British, but eighteen point seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>as Ashkenazi Jewish. So no no idea, no idea whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked. Writer. Did you learn anything in yours about,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about health, anything you're more likely to have or

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<v Speaker 1>not have? Oh? Yeah, it nailed me in three categories.

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<v Speaker 1>It said I am mostly too. I am most likely

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<v Speaker 1>to have restless legs restless leg syndrome, which I've had

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<v Speaker 1>all of my life and just had to deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>more likely for increased anxiety check and severe acne, which

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can remember from when I was on I

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<v Speaker 1>had severe acne. Yeah, and so did my dad. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I when you know, when I started breaking

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<v Speaker 1>out during boy me's work, cause I got it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later. I got it more like at fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifteen, um, when I had the really bad acne.

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<v Speaker 1>So we haven't gotten to it on the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll start to be able to see the the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of makeup. They had a cake on my face.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the worst, the worst. But yeah, knowing this

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<v Speaker 1>then about your your d n A makeup now that like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there something now you're going to change about your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you talk to your doctor about restless leg syndrome?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything or do you take anything for anxiety?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you start? Yeah? Well no, the anxiety thing is

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting because, um, I've never really thought of myself

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<v Speaker 1>as as an anxious person. Um, Like, especially when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, I was not an anxious kid. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But I do I have noticed lately that like I

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<v Speaker 1>need to exercise, Um, it's hugely important anxiety. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I realized is like, if I don't like the only

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<v Speaker 1>the way I manage anxiety, and I put that in

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<v Speaker 1>air quotes would be like drink alcohol and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing you can do to manage anxiety. Um. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially like during the pandemic, there were there's these

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<v Speaker 1>these periods where like there would be you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not working, you're not taking your kids to school, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at home. It would be like, well, why is

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<v Speaker 1>the day over? Why is it? You know, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we know the day is over? We have a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of wine and then you know, and we just got

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<v Speaker 1>into the habit of like, oh, that's just it's five

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock time to drink. Um. So I definitely think that

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<v Speaker 1>like being able to recognize that there's in a genetic

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<v Speaker 1>component to like the feelings I have of anxiety and

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<v Speaker 1>that it might just be part of my body makes

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<v Speaker 1>me remember to just move my body to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>it in terms of my body, as opposed to thinking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something wrong, I need to like, uh, change you

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<v Speaker 1>know the way I think, or no, it's just part

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<v Speaker 1>of my body. Is that I get these feelings that

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<v Speaker 1>other people might not have, you know that that and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to associate it with like necessarily things

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I've done wrong, or you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to. I just don't. I Basically it allows

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<v Speaker 1>me to contextualize my anxiety and recognize it as like

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<v Speaker 1>it mostly physical thing, like something that is like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm born with and that I just have to contend

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<v Speaker 1>with and it's and you know, I just have to

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<v Speaker 1>find healthy ways to contend with it. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that I'm anxiety boy and I was hit

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<v Speaker 1>with this very bad during during boy Me thrilled like

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<v Speaker 1>very bag during Boyman. So then you'll see during the episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the seasons where I come back and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really heavy, and it's because I was medicated to even record.

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<v Speaker 1>And the things I always tell people now that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been dealing with it for so long is the three

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<v Speaker 1>most important things for me that help more than anything

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about it, diet and exercise, and getting off

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<v Speaker 1>of social media. And the first two people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can easily do that, and then it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get off social media. I need

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<v Speaker 1>it for work. What what do you do? I work

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<v Speaker 1>at a bank. Okay, you don't need your social media,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just addicted to it. But it's it's those three

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<v Speaker 1>things where moving your body exactly what you're saying is

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<v Speaker 1>just so unbelievably important. And it is it's all genetic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I found out other people in my family

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<v Speaker 1>down the line. They might not have called it that

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. They might have said, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties they had spells or whatever, because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to how to diagnose it. But that's all

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<v Speaker 1>that it was was it is. It's genetic anxiety and

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<v Speaker 1>and but that's one of the things about the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and me that was so amazing is those little markers.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, that what it says when I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, your average wake up time, judging by your genetics,

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<v Speaker 1>is seven am. And that's like almost exactly every morning

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<v Speaker 1>when I roll out of bed, whoa literally literally almost

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<v Speaker 1>exactly every morning, Susan gets up before me because she's

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<v Speaker 1>got early clients. I doze in bed and by a

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<v Speaker 1>out seven forty to seven fifty, I'm up and out

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<v Speaker 1>and when. So when this thing comes out and it

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<v Speaker 1>says it's seven am, I'm going You've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>kidding me. How is that even possible? So, yeah, some

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<v Speaker 1>of these things are some of them, I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 1>It says that I'm not predisposed to being afraid of heights,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm hugely afraid of heights, but that could also

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<v Speaker 1>be the anxiety part. But there are certain things that this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the muscle. Here's the other thing where it

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel like, yes, I am in fact magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Um is it says my muscle composition is common in

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<v Speaker 1>elite power athletes with mine, man, thank you, I'm a stallion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah me too, me too. I'm also though, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not such a positive thing. I am also more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to have to develop type two diabetes. And as

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know, I love my sweets, I love my

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<v Speaker 1>fast food, and so the good news is I have

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<v Speaker 1>generally my upbringing was that of like very healthy eating

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<v Speaker 1>and exercising, so I really try to enjoy those things

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<v Speaker 1>like sweets and fast food in some sort of moderation.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is really good for me to know that

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<v Speaker 1>um as I age, because it's I think it literally

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<v Speaker 1>says like, from the time you're forty one, which is

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<v Speaker 1>my exact age, up until the time I'm a d

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<v Speaker 1>I am like likely, so like really it's a worse

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<v Speaker 1>than a chance. And so it's good for me to

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<v Speaker 1>know those things because that's something I can stay on

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<v Speaker 1>top of with my doctor. Now, Like, let me get

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<v Speaker 1>regular screenings, let me stay on top of that, let

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<v Speaker 1>me make sure I'm watching my diet, and then I'm exercising,

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<v Speaker 1>because maintaining a healthy weight is one way to help

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<v Speaker 1>prevent that from happening. So I mean, I'm actually really

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<v Speaker 1>excited that I know that because now, like the last

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<v Speaker 1>time writer and I were at your house for a party,

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<v Speaker 1>there was literally, and I'm using that word correctly, a

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<v Speaker 1>board that had donuts hanging all off of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the second you'd grab it don't nut, it would reappear

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<v Speaker 1>as if by magic. So I do love doughnuts, doughnut fan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just called Sundays around here, diner food. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>a big diner food fans. At least it's Sundays and

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<v Speaker 1>not every day. Yeah, it's just Sundays. Yeah, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I love salty, I love sweet, I love

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<v Speaker 1>fried um I just like that kind of food, so

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<v Speaker 1>first salty or sweet. That that was the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>the app told me is that is that I prefer

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<v Speaker 1>salty over sweet, which is absolutely correct, so it does.

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<v Speaker 1>And it told me this is where the history kind

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<v Speaker 1>of buffing me loves. It told me that I have

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<v Speaker 1>that I have more Neanderthal DNA than most of the

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<v Speaker 1>other people. Ye. Yes, yes, we're elite power athlete Neanderthal's magic.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the coolest app in the world. I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for my laser vision which will come. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is I was. It's so amazed a by how

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<v Speaker 1>detail that gets. I do want to show you guys

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<v Speaker 1>my ancestry makeup because, um, look at how almost exactly

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent of one thing I am. Wow you are

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that is my uh that is my um my

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<v Speaker 1>Maltese side, that is my Southern European side. Wow, look

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<v Speaker 1>at you. Yeah, that's me right there. So I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all over the place. Yeah, I am forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine point five percent Southern European and fifty point five

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<v Speaker 1>percent Northwestern European. That's what I'm north. I'm sixty two

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<v Speaker 1>percent Northwestern European, which is which is interesting, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also it's like eight percent Italian. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>there's Italian anywhere in my family line, like no idea

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<v Speaker 1>whatsoever that we're partially Italian. So it's really really cool

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<v Speaker 1>kind of getting these breakdowns. But the other things where

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<v Speaker 1>it's just talking about like whether you're lacto, some tallerant

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<v Speaker 1>or not, you're making your wake up time, whether you

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<v Speaker 1>like cilantro, like all those kind of things, the breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>is is really neat. I know, it is really fun. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>continuing to get to know our background, let us bring

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<v Speaker 1>in our very first background guest. So to give you

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<v Speaker 1>a little background about background actors. The actor the background

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<v Speaker 1>actor definition is someone who performs in a non speaking role,

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<v Speaker 1>usually in the background of a scene. They helped make movies,

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows, and other productions look and feel more authentic

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<v Speaker 1>and so hospitals, concert city streets would be completely empty

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<v Speaker 1>if not for hiring background actors. Yes, school cafeterias, classrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>So let us welcome our first background actor, Geenie Torres.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good to see your faces again. I know

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<v Speaker 1>this is so fun. How did you become a background

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<v Speaker 1>act and how old were you? I was I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was eighteen, and it was my first year of

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<v Speaker 1>community college and I'm still trying to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I was creative, UM, I kind of liked filmmaking,

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<v Speaker 1>editing things like that. Um, maybe I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>an actor, but I felt a little shy to be

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<v Speaker 1>on stage. So I remember talking to my dad and

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<v Speaker 1>he had said, hey, why don't you sign up to

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<v Speaker 1>be a background actor. You know, they can be on set,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see everything that they do. And I thought, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good idea. So I went down to the

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<v Speaker 1>casting agency, you know, paid the will fee that you pay,

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<v Speaker 1>take a picture, get all your information, sign up, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I started. And so it's I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys want me to tell you about how

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<v Speaker 1>that whole process goes and you already know about it, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way they did, at least back in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties was that you called a hotline and you listen

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<v Speaker 1>for something that maybe you fit. So for me and

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<v Speaker 1>I swear, it's like the only time we're looking young,

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<v Speaker 1>like really paid off. I've always um looked for eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>to look younger shows, which, of course Boy Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those shows, and so you listen to recording.

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<v Speaker 1>If you felt like you fit that, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>type of those specs that they're looking for, you called

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<v Speaker 1>the number and then you gave them your social Security number. Everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently like there was no big dam back then, So

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<v Speaker 1>you gave them your social Security number. That's actually how

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<v Speaker 1>how they had you filed. And they looked you up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, yeah, you fit good, You're working tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's your call time, bring you know, three sets of clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you're going. And that's it. And then described

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<v Speaker 1>my stuff pop in the car next morning and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on my way. That's to me. I'm sorry, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a great picture of the two of us together

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, I am. I'm looking at an awesome

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<v Speaker 1>picture of the two of us right now. It's on

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<v Speaker 1>on set. That's so cool. That is where were you living,

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<v Speaker 1>What was the what was the commute like then from

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<v Speaker 1>where you were living to where we were shooting. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would never do this commute nowadays. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>in South Orange County. I was down in mission game

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember called times being about seven thirty for

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<v Speaker 1>us in the morning in the morning, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>leave my house at six and that was fine, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I could get to the ktl A studios by six Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was okay. Back then it is not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you? Were you a mission Vie here? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>a Diablo? I wasn't. I was okay. My wife was

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<v Speaker 1>a Diablo. I won't tell you really rivals exactly. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's so funny. So what other shows were you a

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<v Speaker 1>background actor on? UM? I got booked on Nino two

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<v Speaker 1>and oh, let's see Party of five step by Step

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<v Speaker 1>with Christine Laken. Yes, there's a few those. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why those seemed to like stick out. UM. A

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<v Speaker 1>few movies. Babylon five that was really random but cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the coolest because you actually got

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<v Speaker 1>as an extra. You still got to have makeup done

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to look like an alien and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so not me but it was great. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. That's fun. So okay. So you were

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<v Speaker 1>on season three and four of Boy Meets World Walk

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<v Speaker 1>people through? Then? What would happen? So your call time

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty am. What happens when you arrived to set?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the process? Like the arrived a set and then

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<v Speaker 1>the A d would pass out scripts to everyone and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd actually go through we probably spend like a good

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<v Speaker 1>hour maybe, and we'd go through the entire script and

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<v Speaker 1>she would say something like, Okay, Jeanie, on this line,

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<v Speaker 1>on writer's line, you're gonna go from the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs to locker two, you know, and have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with somebody and then you know, let's say, Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>in your line, I was to exit and and leave,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, walk off set or whatever. So everyone had, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's blocking, different blocking with different crossings. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's amazing. I don't know who put it together,

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems like that would take a long time

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out at least twenty extras and where they

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<v Speaker 1>were going and how they're not going to cross in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you, and it just it's like I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's a dance exactly. And so this

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<v Speaker 1>would have been Deed, right, would have been Yes, So

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<v Speaker 1>she was our second second stage manager, and so she

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<v Speaker 1>would have been in charge of So Yeah, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if Deed mapped out all of those moves. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it must we have to have dd on, Yeah, we will,

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<v Speaker 1>we should. Yeah, And she was so good at it

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<v Speaker 1>like she was. She's just on and she's so friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the things that I'm sure was

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<v Speaker 1>like a really, you know, I'm sure and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to put words in your mouth. Was was every

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<v Speaker 1>a D worked with on sets like wonderful and fun

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<v Speaker 1>to be around? Or were there some that were better

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<v Speaker 1>than others? She was the best. I will say she

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<v Speaker 1>was the best, and you know, maybe because I got

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to come back and do more shows, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was amazing and Mike was Mike was great too.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think everyone sometimes is in work mode

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<v Speaker 1>and as you guys know, you're pressed for time. You've

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get lines done. You know, you just gotta really

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<v Speaker 1>nail it. And I think maybe some were just like whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>do this, But with her, she was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>she was on it. She was on it, but still

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<v Speaker 1>like awesome and sweet. I have a question, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious behind you on your your your shelf back there,

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<v Speaker 1>does that say Transformers or am I wrong? You are correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? And it's a g I Joe. Is a

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<v Speaker 1>g I Joe? Next to that that is g I Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>We are absolutely friends. Which Transformers is it? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>ask from here, is not robot robots in disguise? Is it? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's well, it's well, the game is information protocol. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't tell America. Sorry, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>Bumblebee on the cover. They're sorry. I'm just that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>my career job, So that is what. I'm a creative

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<v Speaker 1>to actor for a boarding game company called Renegade Game Studios,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am in charge of the Hasbro Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>worked for Hasbro for years, So that's I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I know my Transformer. I know my nerves, so

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<v Speaker 1>I know my Sorry. Yeah, I Joe my Transformers in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. I'm gonna call that out every time. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Yeah, So I want to know. Background actors

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<v Speaker 1>are not allowed to talk, but you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>it look like you're talking. Did you have any tricks

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<v Speaker 1>to making it look like you were talking but staying

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<v Speaker 1>totally silent? Um. No, there were no tricks and there

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<v Speaker 1>were no tricks. But I will say that becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>regular right on the show and working with other regular extras,

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<v Speaker 1>there were times it was almost like we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make each other laugh without really blowing it. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have conversations saying ridiculous things to each other

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<v Speaker 1>at the lockers, saying things that just maybe are Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading lips. Yeah, you're saying things that you could

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<v Speaker 1>go back through the episodes and read your lips. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you might be saying inappropriate Oh my god. Yes. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you become friends with all the other actras? Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hang out offset because you were all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of regulars there. We did sometimes. Yeah, I went out

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<v Speaker 1>a lot with Wendy Smith. Um. And then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>few of them that I've become Facebook friends with and

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<v Speaker 1>we just keep in touch and we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>old days of Boy Meets World in certain episodes. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And any episodes stick out in your head that you did, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's actually one with you well it's um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>with the guitarist, oh um Lisha Haley. Yes, yeah, Shallow

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<v Speaker 1>Boy Boy. Yes, that was a fun episode. That was

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<v Speaker 1>That was a fun episode. She was amazing. I really

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<v Speaker 1>hope we get to have her on the show because

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<v Speaker 1>she was absolutely incredible. That was a fun episode to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you in the were you in the chubby scene

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<v Speaker 1>where she was singing that's so yeah? Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see me. I'm holding a French fry and I

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<v Speaker 1>I just go right into disgust and she starts singing

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<v Speaker 1>and I throw the French fry down and I get

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<v Speaker 1>up and walk away out of Chubbies. That's fun action. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to go back and watch that. You laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool. So I think the most pressing question we

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<v Speaker 1>have were we nice? Yes? But like but professional? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think as an extra, you feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a privilege to be on set, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>you don't wanna You don't want to mess that up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know I would. I would see you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>And I have no idea if you if you remember

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<v Speaker 1>this face are not? Are not? But I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I would just like smile. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I ever tried to start up conversations unless it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the last show of the season and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like, Okay, it's cool. Everyone's just happy and excited

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<v Speaker 1>and celebrating and things like that. But um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you guys probably all were approachable. I just didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I didn't want to do anything to have

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<v Speaker 1>me not back on the set. Well, it's also it's

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<v Speaker 1>because I think about it now, like I just I

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<v Speaker 1>just wrapped a movie I was directing, and it's um,

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<v Speaker 1>sets are fun environments, or they can be fun environments,

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<v Speaker 1>and actors like to talk and kids like to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet if you think about what it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like to have twelve kids in a classroom set, we're

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<v Speaker 1>also work needs to get done. If if they were

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to just talk and joke and laugh, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be completely out of control. So it's a it's um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of like you talk as much

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<v Speaker 1>as you can before somebody says, all right, keep it down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no personal conversations. We need to get work done.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was it was always like a tough

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<v Speaker 1>balance between wanting to be like, so what's your name

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<v Speaker 1>and where are you from and what do you like

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<v Speaker 1>to do without actually then being in trouble because there's

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<v Speaker 1>no time for that. Yeah. I think I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually don't remember you guys. Havn't my conversation right before

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<v Speaker 1>your lance? Yeah? I think you just all seemed very focused,

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>especially you writer. You were like, it just seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>you were so on it, and I was he was,

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<v Speaker 1>He was, Yeah, so do you tell anybody now about

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<v Speaker 1>your history as a background actor. Yeah, I do sometimes. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been what like twenties for a lot of beers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's just say twenty a lot, Yes, twenty a lot. Uh.

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 1>If I have made new friends, like you know my kids,

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you start making new friends with your kids,

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're their friends and parents and things like that.

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>And it let's say I have a few drinks and

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>we're watching or whatever, flipping through in Disney Plus and

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the I'm like, oh, hey, you should you should put

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a Womans rolled for a second, you know, so like

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to show you something you know, I'll find it episode

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, that's so fun, like me, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a fun conversation. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 1>many episodes you're actually in that you that you can

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 1>see yourself and have added it up. I haven't. It's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe close to fifteen, but it's over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>two seasons or yeah. Yeah. I mean obviously there were

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>some shows where you didn't have the school scenes, right

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>if there was a lot of shooting, and some days

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it was it was just a one one day call

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<v Speaker 1>and one scene and that was it was Dusty there

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>with you while you were there. Dusty Gould red hair,

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>one of the one of the background actors. He was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Yeah, he was in the classroom with

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>in the class probably and I realized that most of

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the kids in the classroom were miners. Yeah, I wanted

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to keep them young in the classroom, so I think

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 1>they kind of had to separated because you know, they

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>had to go do school. And yeah, we're just done

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a sitting sitting on our chairs and an empty stage waiting, waiting,

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 1>so much downtime on us it yeah, yeah, thank you

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:06.120
<v Speaker 1>for sending us these amazing pictures. Have this great picture.

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>We will post them on our social media so that

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys get to see exactly who she is and

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.360
<v Speaker 1>then you can spot her when we get to her

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>her episodes and seasons three and four. It was really

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>great to catch up with you, Genie. I totally remember

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>your face. You haven't changed at all. Thank you, guys,

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you're all the same to me too. It's funny, it's awesome.

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It's really nice to reconnect with you. Thank you for

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>all of the Yeah, thanks for coming on our show,

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for all the work you did for

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>us all those twenty plus years ago. Thank you, Thank you, guys.

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love your podcast. Been listening. I

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's really cool. I love everyone's perspective and and

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what you went through. I think it's really

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>neat because I was just a small part of it,

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>and it really it's I don't know, you know, you

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>always try and guess and think how everyone else is thinking,

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>or what it is their challenge is, or maybe they

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>don't have challenges and only I have challenges. Great, it

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>was really great. Thank you so much. It's great to

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>see you. All right, all right, guys. Our next guest

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was a background actor on Boy Meets Worlds in seasons

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.719
<v Speaker 1>two through four, and then he came back in season

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>six just to watch a taping and was invited back

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to be an extra in that episode. That's awesome. That's awesome,

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>so cool. Um, so let's please welcome. I think I

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>beleeve Justin. If I'm saying your name wrong, Justin ur Mayo.

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely perfect, yes, all right, Justin welcome. Oh my god,

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>this is insane. Right off the bat. I absolutely remember Justin,

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>absolutely do. The second I saw your picture, I was like,

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely no, yeah, I knew exactly

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you were right away. You did a whole bunch of episodes,

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and I completely remember you. Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks. Well,

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>of course I think I did like fifty maybe you

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>did a whole lot of episodes. You were one of

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the regulars there for most of the time, so yeah,

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I completely remember Justin. Wait, so you did maybe fifty

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>episodes just within seasons two, three, and four. So I

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>just I just watched um. So the first episode I

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>did was season two episode eight, banned on the run,

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and then I did the rest of that season, did

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>season three, season four, and then I missed the show

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>so much like I went to an audience taping of

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it when you moved to Radford. I watched the show.

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Then I snuck over to the bathroom, which was in

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>a sound stage next door. I hid in the bathroom

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>for half an hour, waited for the audience to leave

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and everybody get escorted out. Then I walked back onto

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the sound stage and I saw Steve in Deed and

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>they saw me, and they jumped up and they said,

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Justin, what are you doing here? And

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, I came to see the show. And they said,

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you have to come back and do an episode, and

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I said that please, that would be honest. Oh my gosh,

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>she asked. So Steve Hayfer and d D to Stephano.

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>We talked about them a little bit our stage. I'm

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>sure you remember that justin. Yes, you guys had so

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>many I don't really remember the catch right, but you

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>guys had so many in jokes and catch phrases. And

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys are always having such an awesome time. It's

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>so funny. One of the pictures that we have of

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you justin you are in the scene with Lesha Haley,

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>which is exactly the same scene we were just talking

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>about with Genie. There's another background actor we have from

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>that set that that Lesha Haley episode Shallow Boy was

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>really special. I remember that I still had my script

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the garage. I think it's because everybody has

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to react to her playing the song. I think that

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>was why it was like in Chubbies, She's she does.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like the whole point of the scene is that

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>if she's making a scene right, and everybody has to

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of react to it, as opposed to other scenes

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>where were just like talking the foreground and everybody's just

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, having normal life. That's the Atlantis

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Morris set exactly. Oh you're giving some I'm looking at

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the picture right now, you're giving such a great like

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>over the shoulder, look at Lesha Haley. This kind of

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>your eyebrow race. You've got the boymes World eyebrow rais

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and you are sitting there looking at her like she's

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>she's off her nut. It's great. It's absolutely phenomenal. Second

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw that picture, I was like, oh, yeah, I know,

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>just I know exactly. They kept coming back to me

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>over and over and said, bigger, bigger, bigger. But that's

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>how I totally learned on that set that you have

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to go pretty big for people to notice things. Sometimes.

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It's true you would have been, especially in that episode,

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>what would have been characterized as a featured extra, right yeah,

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean it doesn't. You don't get any extra money.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just a it's just a good you know, you're

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>saying really well and you do a little bit which

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>is really cool. And the longer I was there, the

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>more they threw me cool bits to do, like at

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>think there's one time you hit a ball off the

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>pool table and like kids be in the foot and

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>then one time I played they came in I think

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a Train of Consequences where we're you're on the train

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the New Year's E party. Yeah, and I played the

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>pizza guy and Wryder comes up to me and he's like,

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>does anybody know anything about deliveries? And then then he

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like rushes me out the door and then comes back

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and says, you know, he's gonna good thing is he's

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>going to deliver ms Mrs g Andelle's babies and they'll

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>be they'll be in an under thirty minutes or whatever

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is the joke. That's right. I forgot about that. That's

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>so funny. And so that's why, right, Yeah, but you

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and not because we were around the same age. You

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>weren't really in the classroom, right, you were? You and

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I were always kind of in the same scenes together. Yeah,

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>so I was too old to be one of the

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>classroom regular kids, and they wanted to have you know,

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>kids that were people were over eighteen to be you know,

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the hallway kids, Chubbies and whatever else like that. So yeah,

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I was. I'm fifty two now, it's still a bit

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>older than you, but I was, yeah close, what are

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>your old? You know, I'm I'm forty six, so yeah,

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.719
<v Speaker 1>we're pretty Yeah, so we're decently close. Did you have

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>to eat in all those chubby scenes? Um? I think

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I ate a few times in a chubby scene. Mostly

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I was standing up or you know, pretending to be

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>breaking up with a girlfriend in the background or something crazy.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, so much fun. Do you have any particular

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>episode or scene that you remember the most. Oh gosh,

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean I really like the Train of Consequence, so

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that was really funny. And I remember Charisma Carpenter was

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>in that episode. I didn't know who that was. I

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>think we're sitting back a training me, Will and Charisma

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and I had no idea who she was. And it

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>was really fun. It was just it was different because

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a different set. So there's a really good

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>memory there. Yeah, the the one with the monkeys was

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>really cool because I grew up watching I mean, I

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>was a little too young to watch the Monkeys originally,

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>but you know, when I was a kid, there's only

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>like three channels, so I had to watch the Monkeys.

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>You met the Monkeys the band, I instantly went to

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the episode where Eric has monkeys. Yeah, okay, that was

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>an episode where Eric has monkeys. Y's got the same

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>monkey that that Ross has on Friends. That same Marcel

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>monkey was on our show. I have no recollection of that. Yeah,

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>so that's where my head went. I was like, oh,

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you're in the episode where I'm with the monkey. Um, So,

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, can you tell us a little bit about

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:40.239
<v Speaker 1>how you started in in the business. Yeah, I mean

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I I absolutely obsessed with movies as a kid, and

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I used to cut out and use paper ads and

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>pasted my wall with mouse because I couldn't afford posters,

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>so I had movie ads from the Sunday calendar all

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>over my wall. And then I just wanted to be

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>an extra and my but I just wanted to do something.

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>And I was, you know, just out of college, and

0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what to do with My sister goes

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>on should be a next trim, like you can do that? She's, oh, yeah,

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>why don't you get the drama logue and go? She said,

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>go do something free and if you like it, um,

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>you're meant to do this. So I went and worked

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:14.280
<v Speaker 1>on a science fiction movie, played a cracked out space

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>guy or something, and it worked for like fourteen hours

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>for zero pay, and I couldn't wait to do it again.

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>And then eventually I got an agent agency. So I

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>was working on like nine O two A No, and

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>like Step by Step and Party of Five and the

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>same that that gact, same group of three age Grange. Right,

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>if you were if you if you were eighteen or

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>over eighteen but still look young, you could be in

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the background of all those shows. That's what they needed.

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:48.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, like seven and Clueless and so many things.

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>That was crazy. And then it's the best to get

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>on the show and be a regular because to be

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>a regular like nine or two on basically doing like

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>nine O now, don't you want know? Party of five?

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Boy needs World. And then I then I do a

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>random day and I work on like show Girls for

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>three days or something and something random. That's so cool.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>And I got into and I got into SAG and

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 1>and d D. I said, d D, if I get

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 1>into SAG, but you keep me on the show? She

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>said yes, And do you want to hear my SAG story?

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I got into SAG. So I get a call one

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>day from from like my agent agency, and they said,

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>would you be interested in being Johnny Depps? But double?

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>And I said um, and and my brain just said,

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, normally you might think Beckham, I'll think about that.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, yeah, absolutely. She goes, or she said,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>like trying, but yeah, exactly. Yeah. So well here's a

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>bat and she goes. I said, so what does that entail? Exactly?

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And she said, well, okay, you go. I lived, I

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>live in Orange County and said, okay, um, you have

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to go up to the studio, shows goes. I'll call

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you back in now and give you the details. You'll

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>go up there, you'll talk to him for a mental

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>interview for a moment. You'll pull down your pants and

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>they'll take a bit through your butt a polaroid. They'll

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll give it to a producer and they'll probably give

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>it to Johnny Depp. And and I said, so okay, yeah, yeah,

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll do that, I guess, and and she hands on

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the phone. I go take a shower, I get ready

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 1>and like, what the hell am I doing? And then

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>she she calls back an hour late and she goes, oh,

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>they I'm sorry, they just found somebody to do that.

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And I said, okay, but I'm like, oh bummer. And

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I was so disappointed. Man, I could have been Johnny Depps.

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>But but and what get you back? Okay, Well, first

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>of all, do you remember where it was from? So

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.439
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's Don Juan de Marco with Johnny Depp

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 1>and Marlon Branda film like that film. Yeah, good movie.

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>So two days later I get a call and so

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>they threw me a bone. They put me on um

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>don one de Marco. So I get up there and

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.919
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that was the movie. And I was like, hey,

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that guy looks like Marlon Brando and they're like, that's

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 1>because that is Marlon Brando and as though, and that's

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Depp on Holy Ship. So we're in working on

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>scenes and Marlon Brando really like loves like the little guy,

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the low and the totem pulp person. He was like

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to me, like justin. He's like he heard my name.

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>He said, it's getting kind of warm in here, don't

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.479
<v Speaker 1>you think? He said, yeah, it was getting kind of warm,

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>And they brought an air conditioner just for him. And

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I got stuck in a stairwell with Marlon Brando. So

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm eating snacks and Marlon Brandon and a thin assistant

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 1>director come in and they're arguing and They're like, they say, Marlin,

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>can you work at like an extra fifteen minutes, Like

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I sure, I'll work an extra fifty minutes and I'll

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>just come in fifteen minutes late tomorrow. And they kept

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>going back and forth, and Marlin Brandon was just handling

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>this guy really easily and really calmly. And the guy

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 1>turned to me and saw me, and he got really

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>mad and he he said, you, like you need to leave,

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>And Marlon Brando said, oh no, no, no, no, no,

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the kids stays. And I was like, holy like, I'm

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell this story for the rest of my life.

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>So he gave one. So Marlon Brando gave one extra girl.

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>She played a nurse. He goes, okay, you're you have

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>lines because he was there doing like small talk, and

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>they were mentioned talking about how to get into SACK.

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you know the voucher system? How you got into

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>SAD So you needed three SAG vouchers. And for our listeners,

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>SAG is Screen Actors, just the union for actors that

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to be a member of in order to

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, collect your residuals and have your health insurance

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and all that exactly and get paid eighty bucks instead

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of forty bucks. Exactly, that's an extra and um, he said, okay,

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to get into he he like she he

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>was heard. We were all like trying hard to get

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>into SACK. We need our like last voucher. He was, okay,

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you have lines. You're gonna have lines. He gave us

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>nurse lines. Marlon Brando out of nowhere, just gives her lines.

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>So we shoot. I go home. Um, I get a

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>call like two days later, they really need you on

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>set don Wanda Market. They have to do a reshoot

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.959
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I rushed up to the set. I get

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>there and I was non union and I needed one

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>more voucher and I'd waited a whole year. I didn't

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>get my third voucher. And she signs signs of vouchers

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>handsome to me and she said, go home, you're done

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>for the day. And said, what are you talking about?

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 1>She goes, welcome to SAG. I said, what do you?

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, this is Sag Belcher because yeah, somebody up

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>there likes you, somebody, somebody really big is really looking

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>out for you. I said, I'm like, are you telling me?

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Marlon Brando one got me into SAG And She's like

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that goodbye. I walked away. Random got

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you into SAG. I think you know who knows like

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>And I heard from a couple other people that that's

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>what they heard, the same thing, because either Marlon or

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Johnny or somebody they were they're really cool and you know,

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>And I got into SAD. I got to stay on

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>boy Meats World, so I had a regular gig because

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 1>normally when you got into SAG is an extra, your

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>jobs just went down because you could, you know, because

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 1>the first I don't want to pay you the extra money. Yeah,

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>because only the first certain number of people on a

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>SAG TV show or move or extras have to be SAG,

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and everybody above that number could be non union. So

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in a crowd scene, there's forty S people in a

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>thousand non union people. So did you stay in the

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry? Do you still work in the entertainment industry? Now?

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I do, Well, I have a regular job. I'm a

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>buyer for a medical company, but for um So. I

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>had a daughter, so eventually had a quit, quit extra work,

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and but I worked on about three hundred things, and

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>then I started to move into local commercials. And then

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I started writing, and I said, if if no one's

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna put me in anything, I'll put myself in something.

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>So I started writing and directing indie movies. So I

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>directed a movie called It Suck a Jones, which is

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a like a black exploitation movie. So here's something really interesting.

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>When I first started, when I was cast on the

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>show and I shot my first episode A couple episodes

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.439
<v Speaker 1>before that was the episode called Who's Afraid of Corey Wolf? Yeah?

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And the Halloween one right yeah, And there's a small

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>theme in about how he thinks he has to kill

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Topanga to like become a full fledged werewolf or something.

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>And I took that colonel with an idea, and that's

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the plot of the first movie I made, blood Suck

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:36.359
<v Speaker 1>at Jones, But it was about a vampire making um,

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>becoming a full fledge vampire. He has to kill his

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>first love. So we made that, we got into vessels,

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>that did pretty good, and then we made a sequel,

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>blood Suck at Jones Versus A Creeping Death. Where can

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>we find these movies? Where can everyone find your stuff?

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:57.760
<v Speaker 1>So they're both on Amazon and you can get um

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>but you can you can rent them on Amazon. Can

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>rent them on Amazon Prime. We used to be there

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>for free, but now it's only for anial, but we're

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>rereleasing it to put it on a lot of platforms.

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 1>And then I just finished our biggest movie. It's called

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Zanna Do hell Fire and I love these titles, thanks Matt.

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>And I wrote it for my daughter, like I was

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a single dad, so I wanted to write a movie

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>about a single dad. So it's about a nine year

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>old girl who brings her comic book character from the

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>future to the present just to hang out, and her

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>evil sister follows and all hell breaks loose. That's so cool.

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to watch that. And okay, well here's another

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>little tidbit. I was gonna make it Union, and I

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.720
<v Speaker 1>wanted to cast you in it as the single dad.

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>And then I didn't have enough money, um to make

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 1>it Union, so I didn't. I never ended up contacting you,

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 1>but that My plan was always to get all of

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you in a movie one day. That would be like

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe we could do blood Sucker Jones three totally many scripts,

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>so but that's still my dream and I hope to

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 1>do that one day for sure. Thank you so much

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>for being here with us and telling us about your

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>life now and your experiences as a background actor. It

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 1>really means a lot to us, so thanks so much.

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>This podcast is incredible, like hearing all hearing your feelings

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>about how you thought you were going to be fired

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and and then I thought I didn't get invited back,

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and then I found out the next week it was

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>like an off day, off week. Well, thank you again, Justin.

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>This has been a real, a real pleasure. So thank

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you for being here with us. We wish you the

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 1>best and we can't wait to reconnect on our our

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 1>movie set. I'm sure, I'm ut, please please, thank you, Justin. Jason,

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing. I'm well, it's great you guys.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I to see you. Or you were a background actor

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>in season three. Tell us a little bit about some

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>of the episodes you were a part of, and like,

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>what is your favorite memory from being a background actor

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>on Boy Meets World. The only episode I really remember

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>vividly was there was a scene in the I want

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to say it was in the lunch room or maybe

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>in that um that hangout place that that you guys

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>always went to, and uh, Corey uh was being bullied

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.720
<v Speaker 1>by this guy and they brought in this like really

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>really really tall, good looking, like Nordic cooking kid, and

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 1>there was always there was a big height differential, which

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.479
<v Speaker 1>was very funny. But they made it even funnier because

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>they had this guy who was already quite a bit

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>taller than Ben stand on an apple box like watching

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that as like I want to be actor, uh, you know,

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to start my career and just watching the decisions

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>being made on the fly, and I thought that was

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>so cool. So how were you were you eighteen playing younger?

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I was twenty three. Wow, okay, if you were in

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Chubby's you could really be any age. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>because you guys were in high school by the time

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>amazon on the show. I don't think I could. If

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you get started, yeah, uh doing background work or just

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>in the in the business and you know in general.

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Um I had well, I had just moved to l

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>A when I was doing extra works, so so I

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.879
<v Speaker 1>moved here in so I was on the show nine six,

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know anyone here. I didn't have any friends,

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and I had heard that oh if you could go

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>do background work and goes sign up and you know,

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>so that's how I paid my bills sort of. The

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>first here here. Where'd you move from Pennsylvania? Oh? Nice,

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 1>outside of Allentown. You know the Billy Joels song. That's

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>of course I know Pennsylvania. Well, both my brothers went

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 1>to school in Pennsylvania. Okay, so that's very cool. Now,

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>what made you come out here? What made you come

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>out to Los Angeles? Was it just the bug to

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 1>be an actor? It was a little bit of that.

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It was there was a really really big snowstorm. So

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I used to work in radio, and the station I

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>worked at back in Allentown, we were known for the

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>school closings, like back before the internet. He would do

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the school closing the best form on the radio. So

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I I worked overnight, So I would stay overnight, uh

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and do my shift, and then in the morning I

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>would have to stay and help the morning show take

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the calls. So I remember driving home after being completely

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>sleep deprived in this blizzard, and I got home, I'm like,

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 1>why why am I here? Why? It's terrible. Yeah. For

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 1>for Jason, just very quickly, for Writer and Danielle, the

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>two West Coast kids. So when we were East Coast

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 1>kids growing up, you would wake up on a day

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>when there was snow on the ground and you would

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:49.439
<v Speaker 1>put on the radio and you would wait for your

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>school to be called, and then they tell you if

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you were delayed or if you're if you had a

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.240
<v Speaker 1>snow day and it was canceled. It was the best.

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think you had that out here on

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the West coast, did you in the mountains and the

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 1>mountain towns, But but you would. You'd sit there and

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you'd wait. It would say like, and the Avon Public

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.720
<v Speaker 1>schools are and if if it was a good dj,

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>they would pause because they would either be are open

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and running normally and you go, or in which case

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:19.399
<v Speaker 1>the horse and buggy couldn't get you to school, right exactly,

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't get We had slaves, weren'tive, but that's what

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>it was. It would be and they'd be like Avon

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Public schools are closed today, and you'd be like, yes,

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>not thinking that. Of course, then you had to do

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>an extra day in the summer because they just tack

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>it on because yeah, but it was you just have

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a day off where you'd go sledding or you would

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 1>place noball you It was the greatest thing in the world.

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's something that is just Jason and I know

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>what this is. But if you did not grow up

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 1>in that, you didn't you didn't know. So yeah, it's

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.399
<v Speaker 1>totally cool, Jason. Were you a background actor on any

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>other shows? Yeah? I was on Friends a couple of times. Actually,

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you can see me really well because it was

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like the season two premier, like when the show was

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 1>just like absolutely white hot, at the top of the zeitgeist,

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, great, Ross gets off the plane with Julie. Yeah,

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Rachel does this like pratfall on the airport over the furniture.

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm right there addressed as a limo driver. How fun.

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I have to watch that again. And uh, I got

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>my sag card on Executive Decision, which was a movie

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>with Steven Seagal and Kurk Russell, John Leguizamo, everybody jumping

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 1>on the airplane. Yes, beat Wong Pump wasn't. Yes, it was. Yes,

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a great I love the title because that

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 1>sounds exactly like a Steven Seagal movie. There's like a

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>hard to kill exec about Executive Decision and not it's

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>a spoiler alert, but it's from Seagal's only in like

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the first fifteen minutes and then it's killed off. It's

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a straight up Kurt Russell. Uh. Yeah, it's a great movie.

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a great movie. I think we should explain to

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody why having your SAG card is so important, because

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>it's now come up a couple of times, um and so,

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 1>as writer mentioned, SAG stands for the Screen Actors Guild,

0:48:59.880 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and you it's it's joining SAG is a little bit

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>of a catch twenty two because you cannot have a

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>speaking role in television or a movie until you are

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:14.959
<v Speaker 1>a member of ZAG. But you can't become a member

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of ZAG until you have a speaking part. So we

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>can do one, right, you can do one, and then

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you do you get something that's called heart lead. You

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 1>get your voucher. Yes, so top being taft heart lead

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.360
<v Speaker 1>in means I think actually you get the option to

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>join right away. You can get yeah, and but there

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 1>are other ways to earn your SAG, like you get

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>like three SAG vouchers, right, and that what it used

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to be here a time limit. Can you just get three? Okay?

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Just three? Yeah? When I was doing it because STAG

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:47.439
<v Speaker 1>and after we're separate unions at the time, So win SAG,

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you you would get three vouchers doing background work because

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:54.720
<v Speaker 1>they would have a certain allotment of union background actors

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>they would have to use, and then a certain allotment

0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 1>of non union. So if you worked on the show

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>as a non union you wouldn't at a voucher. But

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes there was a slot they would open up, somebody

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't show up and you would get bumped up and

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you would get to use the union voucher for the day. Wow, Wow,

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that's so cool. Yeah. So I got into SAG because

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I did. I was a member of Equity, which is

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the theater union. And I don't know if this is

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>still the case, but back then if you were a

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 1>member of Equity, after you were in Equity for a year,

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you could get you were eligible for SAD. I think

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>just by being in Lame as Rob as a kid,

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I then became eligible for SEX So I never had

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to do like the voucher at half Heartley thing. I

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:31.799
<v Speaker 1>just you know, I think I did the same thing.

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I think well, after being in the Harvard Stage, I

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:35.919
<v Speaker 1>was in Equity and then I was able to join SADE.

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.800
<v Speaker 1>What year did you join SAG? Writer? Do you remember

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen nine? Daniel Jason ninety s five? See that's the

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.439
<v Speaker 1>thing most actors, because it's a very big deal as

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 1>an actor to get your SAG card. It still says

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>when you joined too on the card, right, but you

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>don't need to look at it. Most actors, you ask

0:50:57.280 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 1>them like, when did you join SAG, and they can instantly.

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I was eighty nine, like I'll always remember, but now

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember. There used to be a screen Extras guild,

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>remember that, I think pre like, it wasn't until the

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 1>mid nineties that the two guilds merged. It used to

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:14.359
<v Speaker 1>be that if you were an extra, you you were

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>in a separate union. And then and then it became

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>all under SAG, and that was a big deal because

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's how then you could become a SAG member

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>by doing background work. Before that, you couldn't even do

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 1>it by doing background work. Yeah, yeah, I do remember that. Yeah,

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 1>background work didn't used to count. And once you're a

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>member of SAG you get health insurance as well, So

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 1>there's there's again, it's a it's a a double edged sword.

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Joining SAG means you pay dudes, So you have to

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.799
<v Speaker 1>pay kind of a lot of money every year in

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>order to stay in SAG. You also have to earn

0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of money every year to stay in SAG,

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and there are like two levels of earnings, like you

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 1>know whether you're going to be in Plan A or

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Plan B, and Plan A is the better insured rents,

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>but it means you also have to be earning a

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>significantly large portion of money a year. That's gone. Now.

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's Plan A Plan B anymore. I

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>think there's just one plan that's not as good as

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Plan A and not as bad as Plan B. I

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>think they kind of went in the middle and now

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's one and some people were happy with that and

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>some people where. There's been a lot of changes at SAG,

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and some of them haven't been great. But so, Jason,

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 1>do you still work in the entertainment industry and what

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.840
<v Speaker 1>are you doing now? Now? I'm managing a tour company

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 1>called Bikes and Hikes l A. But I am still

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>in entertainment a little bit. I host my own podcast

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>called a Lifetime of Hallmark, where we review and kind

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of pick apart Lifetime and Hallmark movies and they're so

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.280
<v Speaker 1>very like earnest and wholesome or they are just murdering

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:51.919
<v Speaker 1>sex four and seven. I write, I'm trying to get

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 1>more into hiking. Is your company? Is it like cool

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.040
<v Speaker 1>hikes around l A? Is that what you guys? Know?

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 1>We we cater to tourists from around the world, so

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 1>that we do biking tours and do three daily bike

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 1>tours of l A. Ones of thirty two mile one

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that goes out to the back, that we do shorter

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 1>ones in Beverly Hills and Hollywood, and then we do

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:12.240
<v Speaker 1>hikes to the front and back of the Hollywood Sign

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's cool. Arc. Yeah, I might have to join

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you for the one to the Hollywood Sign. I've never

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>all the years I've been here, thirty so many years,

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I've never done a hike to the Hollywood Sign. And

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it's something, Yeah, come on, all right, let's do it. Oh,

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>we should all go. We should totally do that. That

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 1>would be really cool. Does it ever come up in

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>your life that you were a background actor on Boy

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Meat's World. Yeah, because I I have a lot of

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:36.279
<v Speaker 1>friends that watched it growing up in somes It'll come

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:38.839
<v Speaker 1>up in conversation. I'll tell them and they're like, what,

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 1>what what? And now, So I live in West Hollywood

0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and just that I'm sure people have heard in the

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>news that Ben is running for a city council was Hollywood.

0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I in my I've lived in we have for fifteen years.

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I've never once seen him out. I have run in

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Ben ten times in the past month. Ten That's so funny.

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Have you have you talk to him when you've seen

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>him out of you The first time I saw him,

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 1>it was right after I found out I was gonna

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>be on with you guys, and so I just went

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 1>up to I was like, Ben, Hi, I'm a resident here.

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 1>We hope it also is on Boy Meets World. And

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 1>we just had like a twenty minute conversation. That's amazing.

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>So he knew you were a background actor. You didn't

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:18.879
<v Speaker 1>remember me, but now when he sees me, he recognizes

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 1>me and like makes a point of staying hi. That's

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:25.240
<v Speaker 1>so cool. That's cool. Good. I'm happy to hear that. Well. Jason,

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for being here with us. It

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 1>was really fun to catch up with you. And I

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 1>think we'll take you up on that offer to go

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 1>on a hike to the Hollywood Sign because I have

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>ever done it right. What was what was the name

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of the podcast One More Time A Lifetime of Hallmark.

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I checked that out perfect. Yes, well, thank you for

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:46.640
<v Speaker 1>being here with us. Yeah, alright, by I want to

0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:49.399
<v Speaker 1>do I've wanted to do that Hollywood hike because it's

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 1>just such an iconic thing going and actually seeing the

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Sign, which you see it, you drive by, and

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you just get everybody gets at wherever they live. They

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:57.640
<v Speaker 1>get so complacent about where they live that they don't

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 1>do the things that you're do. Yeah, and I show

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.319
<v Speaker 1>them the joy of of the town or city that

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 1>they live in. So that nightmare, Like the roads up

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Hollywood Sign are like so congested, like the

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:11.439
<v Speaker 1>local residents hate it so much because and there's probably

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 1>no place to park, and it's off exactly trying to

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>make it hard. Yeah, because people live up there, you know.

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>But I'm surprised you didn't. It's like that's how I

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>knew I was at a rider house. It was like, well,

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't the streets are they're turning everywhere, and I

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:25.840
<v Speaker 1>can't actually park, so hey, I must be at the

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>rider's house. It's just a scant thirteen miles from where

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I had to park my car. That's gonna be nice, man.

0:55:30.840 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I like, you know, I like to be around trees.

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I like to be so that means being a little

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:38.200
<v Speaker 1>off the beaten path. My place now is right off

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a big, big road. No, no no, no, your place now

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 1>has decent parking. But the other ones, it was like,

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:42.800
<v Speaker 1>are you I'd have to call you and be like,

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm acclimatizing for the night. I'll see you in the morning.

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that is I once my car got

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 1>stuck hanging off a cliff outside of Writer right at night.

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:59.360
<v Speaker 1>That's right. We have a cold sitting on the curb,

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:03.359
<v Speaker 1>acting down and it was really curved. It was a terrible,

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.279
<v Speaker 1>terrible thing, and I can don't see, and it was dark,

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and I turned my wheel and I like went, literally

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 1>my car was dangling off. That's right. I forgot. Did

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>it rip off the front of your car? Too? And

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.720
<v Speaker 1>we know nothing, nothing like that happened. I just couldn't

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:19.080
<v Speaker 1>get the wheel back up onto the thing. So the

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>tow truck just had to basically bring my car down.

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Just started driving tow trucks to Rider's house. It was

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>just easier that way, say a lot safer. That was

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>one of our boy Beats World dinners that we had.

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember we sent one of our boy Meats World dinners.

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>It was really fun. Well, I'd love to introduce our

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>next guests. Her name is Jessica Biboh. I hope I

0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 1>said that right, Jessica. Um. She was one of the

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 1>background actors that Genie are very first guest. Jennie had

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 1>friends that she would bring in as being other background actors,

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and Jessica was one of those people. Hi are you.

0:56:56.880 --> 0:57:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Jessica was one of the background actor actors in the

0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 1>famous Danielle to Penga cutting her hair episode Hair Today,

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Gone Tomorrow. And so you're actually in the bathroom scene

0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 1>with me, right, yes? Yeah, it was my first time

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 1>ever being on the show too. That was the first episode. Yes,

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and I remember they picked me, I think because I

0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 1>have obviously big hair. So yeah, so the lady picked

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>me and I was like, oh my gosh, like I've

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>never even been here before, I've done this. So I

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and my friend Genie was like, She's like, you got

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>featureded whatever for three years and so what happened? So

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 1>was it de de de Stefano who picked you out?

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:54.560
<v Speaker 1>It was, yeah, she picked me In another UM extra

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I called Wendy okay, and it was the three of

0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>us and I made me and Wendy him and I.

0:58:02.360 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it was it was such a fun experience.

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I was so nervous the first day and it just

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just so much fun to be in that episode,

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>especially because it was such a big hit. Yeah, and

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you're so featured in the in the bathroom at the

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>sink right there, So, um, what do you really like

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 1>remember about that day? I remember I remember you actually, Um,

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I was so nervous for you because you had to

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>cut your hair on camera and I was like, oh

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this is like I was so nervous for

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you and like you had to get it in the

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So I really remember that. And I just remember thinking

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>like being nervous for you, and and just I thought

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 1>it was it was just so fun because it was

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>really my first time on a set, and so the

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:56.000
<v Speaker 1>whole thing like it looked smaller than I thought it would.

0:58:56.200 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 1>You know how everyone always it's totally true. It is true.

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's just something about when you actually see

0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the limits of the set, you're like, oh, well that's

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 1>all it is. I'm like it's shorter, and like, I

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like there was there. I had like this

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 1>perception of what it would be and then it was different,

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 1>So I remember that. And then um, I also remember

0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I got to get my makeup done, so that was

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>super exciting. And because I was featured, I'm like, oh,

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I get to get my I did. I'm like, you

0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 1>don't bother with the hair. No one's gonna know how

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to do it, not my hair, but I did. So.

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>The other actor that was featured with you, Wendy. Had

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you ever met her before? Did you know her at all?

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't, but my my best friend Genie was friends

0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>with her. They worked together every week and so we

0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:46.520
<v Speaker 1>connected immediately. We're still friends to this day because I

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 1>think Jennie was talking about Wendy. Yeah, we're all still friends,

0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:51.439
<v Speaker 1>and I, you know, I met her that one time.

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I live in Orange County too, so I don't see her,

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 1>but um, we're still connected just because of that one

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>day and we still like reminisce about it. He was

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<v Speaker 1>like so excited to be chosen too. So are you

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<v Speaker 1>are you a mission Viejo as well? I am, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're also not a Diablo. You were a cougar exactly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you know that? Because we talked to We

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Jeannie and my wife is a Diablo, so

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<v Speaker 1>so my kids are going to be Diablos. Okay there

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<v Speaker 1>you go, alright, and my my uncle and my mom

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<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, but there's a lot of mission video

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<v Speaker 1>history in this. There is why we were. My My

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<v Speaker 1>wife lived off a spartan right right across from anton

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<v Speaker 1>Across from Antonuci is Antonucci still there, like the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>Italian restaurant. Yeah, it's totally that I used to go.

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<v Speaker 1>They're growing up with my grandfather. I'm Italian, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was like his spots. Yeah. Sorry, little little mission Viejo.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's for my wife. Shout out to my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you a question? Had you heard of

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<v Speaker 1>boy Mets World or seen Boy's World before you came

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. I had heard of it, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was older at the time, so I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I had seen it. I had seen

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<v Speaker 1>it maybe on TV. But the funny thing is, because

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<v Speaker 1>I was in college age. The day after the show

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<v Speaker 1>aired and I went to school, everybody came up to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding you, I saw you on TV. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, And I was like, oh wow, like so

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<v Speaker 1>many college people, college age people were watching the show, boys, girls, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, that's so cool. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>at first I knew about the show was such a

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<v Speaker 1>big hid Do you ever tell people about it now?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have children? Do they know about your past

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<v Speaker 1>as a background actor? My kids like think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>fun because I showed him the picture of the three

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<v Speaker 1>of us at the bathroom. Um, they think it's very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>They know I'm doing this. They can't wait to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Um, And yeah. I still I have so

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<v Speaker 1>many friends who are like, I can't believe that that

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<v Speaker 1>was you. They knew the episode, They're like, so they

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<v Speaker 1>think it's amazing that I was. I like, not, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not the actor, but like they think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the coolest thing. So, yeah, it does. It still comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny. Now you remember being nervous for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember? Did I seem nervous? I think you,

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, you you were very focused and concentrated and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little stressed. Yeah, I mean I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my feeling. It was an incredibly stressful day.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it. I remember it set was on edge.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all like, it was not a fun It's

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, like I do not have fond

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<v Speaker 1>memories of it. I have like I get like not

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<v Speaker 1>in my stomach when I think about that day on set. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think people also thought you were gonna cut your hair. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you're gonna cut your hair shorter than you did.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you actually cut it, I was like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was like more of like a like a relaxed,

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<v Speaker 1>relaxed moment for me, because I thought you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to go like up, like bobbing it up. So seeing

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<v Speaker 1>that you lifted it up and cut it, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like okay. I was like that that. I was given

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<v Speaker 1>very specific instructions about where I was allowed to cut,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it was it was a very stressful day.

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<v Speaker 1>And Michael came out and said, you know, okay, show

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<v Speaker 1>me where, show me where, and I was like like

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<v Speaker 1>right here, and he was like lower and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like no, because I wanted to go a little shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>And Michael really had a off that he he really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted me to do it. Um. Now I have a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Has anybody asked you because you're holding the scissors at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you get to decide where

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<v Speaker 1>the cut happens. Did you ever think even for a

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<v Speaker 1>moment about cutting it in a different spot than people

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<v Speaker 1>told you to. Well, not really, mostly because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to screw anything up for the one take we

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<v Speaker 1>have on camera. And it was like things were very set,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we had we only had a certain amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time we had we could rehearse it and and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get the one take with the scissors. But

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<v Speaker 1>it also was a little like the way she cut it,

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<v Speaker 1>she meaning me, the way I cut my hair. I

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<v Speaker 1>just swung my hair around and then grabbed it and

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<v Speaker 1>cut it. Wasn't like so I knew there was a

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<v Speaker 1>margin of error that was kind of out of my control.

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<v Speaker 1>But I definitely didn't want to do anything that was

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<v Speaker 1>going to make anybody mad at me. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>knew that I needed to cut it in a place

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<v Speaker 1>where there was still room for then when I got

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<v Speaker 1>a real haircut where that could still it was still

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<v Speaker 1>going to get shorter from that wherever I cut it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was going to cut a blunt cut and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, LORI was gonna put layer in it

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So I knew it was going to end

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<v Speaker 1>up being a little shorter than wherever I cut it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also didn't want my hair to be too short.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that was a really stressful. Remember the rehearsing

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<v Speaker 1>and blocking of that scene where then Jeff McCracken would

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<v Speaker 1>yell before we got to it because they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we got the scene all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>until the point of the cut perfectly. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being like, you can say stop in a normal voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not because Jeff as an actor, Jeff took on.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember watching his face when he faces of

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<v Speaker 1>the emotions of the actor on the scene he was

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<v Speaker 1>on the set with, which made him totally find myself

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. Do you do that, Danielle and you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>the monitor. I totally do it too. I'm constant. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm as exaggerated as Jeff, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>definitely like putting myself through whatever the act is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm directing, it's so yeah, yeah, that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>I also do it, even with hair in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was watching you know, I just directed a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling you about it and I'm camera. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a piece of hair in one of the actor's

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<v Speaker 1>face and I was like, I was like, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like Okay, that's not gonna work. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think we we all got that from from Jeff. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>are you still in the business. So I did like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more things after your show, um, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very little things, and then I ended up going into

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<v Speaker 1>the skincare business. So I became an esthetician. I have

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<v Speaker 1>my own skincare line now called Skincare, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing literally since, like I was twunny, simply,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your website skin care? Yeah? Do you a website? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just simply just skincare dot com. It's all natural.

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<v Speaker 1>It's out of Orange County, so it's doing really well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's amazing. I should send you something, yes, please, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we we will all take it. Awesome, you guys, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It works really well. I need it because we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how I washed my entire body with head

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<v Speaker 1>and shoulders? Was that in this episode? I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>at this so I need some sort of skincare regime

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<v Speaker 1>because the one apparently isn't good. It's simple, like, it's great,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, perfect. I don't have dandriff on my face?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I write her? Do I? I don't know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica was really nice to reconnect with you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here with us. I'm I'm so glad you're

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<v Speaker 1>in that iconic scene and set with me. We have

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<v Speaker 1>this adorable picture of the three of us that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put on and put on the Instagram and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here with us. I love it. It It was

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<v Speaker 1>so good talking to you guys. Thank you for having

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<v Speaker 1>me as well. Thanks for joining us. It's so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so sweet, so sweet, and so many background actors

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<v Speaker 1>from Orange County, Orange County, which makes perfect sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess for people who aren't out here, that's that can

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<v Speaker 1>be a hike. I mean, I'm from Orange County. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's at the very I mean, with great traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still at least an hour. Oh yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>now with with traffic. Without traffic, it's an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes, and with traffic you're looking at two hours plus.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes the question why not kids in Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why didn't why didn't teenagers in Los Angeles become

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<v Speaker 1>background Maybe because they kind of grew up around the

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<v Speaker 1>industry and it just took about it. And yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>whereas like in the Orange County. You'd be like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right over there, and I can get these jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Maybe I don't know, but it is. That's

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<v Speaker 1>and then they all seem the other thing that's very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting so far. And we didn't ask Jessica, Well, she

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tell this this, but it doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of were on the circuit where it's you

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<v Speaker 1>did nine O two and no, you did Step by Step,

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<v Speaker 1>you did, you did, It's like you had you did

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<v Speaker 1>Party of Five. There are certain shows that you did

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere interesting. Well, our next guest is a woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Melody Morrero, and she was a background actor in seasons

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<v Speaker 1>two and three, but then she was featured in season two,

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<v Speaker 1>episode twelve called Turnaround, and she was given a name Jacqueline.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't wait to hear about how that happened

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<v Speaker 1>and who Jack Glenn was. Hi, Oh my gosh, it

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<v Speaker 1>is so cool to see you guys. It's been almost

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years. Yeah, we're just it's been eight years. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>A few years. It's so good to see you. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you were a background actor in seasons two and three,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you were featured as Jacqueline in an episode

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<v Speaker 1>so how did that come about? I was, Oh, my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so over the moon that day. They said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen you around, said a lot. You were the

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<v Speaker 1>Um I was the waitress at Chubbies a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I don't know, it's just happenstance. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just trying not to stick out too much. But when

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<v Speaker 1>one of the producers came up, I think I forget

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<v Speaker 1>her name. The one of the assistant producers said we

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<v Speaker 1>have a spot for you. Just come come with us now,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, okay, whatever you, whatever you say,

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<v Speaker 1>and then had me walk with with Eric. So, oh, really,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the two of us together? Is that why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the picture I have. I have a phone

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<v Speaker 1>know of us together. It's so great. So where we dad?

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<v Speaker 1>Where we were Eric and Jacqueline dating at the time?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Yeah, we were totally a thing. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>write a whole backstory? Is there a history there, scripted

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<v Speaker 1>idea about us dating or the Yeah, they didn't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>go with that, but yeah, I just come around the

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<v Speaker 1>corner of the lockers and Eric, you you walk up

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<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, Jacqueline, I was just headed that way

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Along those lines, and I was so geeked out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much fun. Man, that's so cool. I'm surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>That must have been the episode that they had Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Girl Crazy that one episode. Yeah, no, I'm kidding. That

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<v Speaker 1>was Eric's thing was so it was so great that

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<v Speaker 1>we got a chance to do that. That's very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you become a background actor? UM? In college,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my friends was telling me about she was

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<v Speaker 1>going to a movie set the next day and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you What are you doing? And she said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm an extra. And I was like, okay, no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what that means. And she told me about what

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<v Speaker 1>she was doing. And it was Central Casting at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was a young mom in college and I

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<v Speaker 1>had a mouth to feed, and I'm like, this will

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<v Speaker 1>be a cool way to make a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>extra cash. So I did it, and UM did a

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<v Speaker 1>number of things, but we we Strolled happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely my favorite, obviously, But I did it for two years,

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half, yeah, three seasons almost, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did an episode of Friends and Er and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things. But yeah, first it was just a way

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<v Speaker 1>to make some cash. And then I thought maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get bit by the acting bug, and that didn't exactly

1:10:35.720 --> 1:10:38.559
<v Speaker 1>plan pan out that way, but yeah, that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stumbled upon this. So do you still work

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<v Speaker 1>in the entertainment industry? What do you do now? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in human resources. Yeah, yeah, I went from background

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<v Speaker 1>acting to human resources. So yeah, I'm in a stark

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<v Speaker 1>person for what company? For Toyota? Oh nice? Yeah, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great gig. I'm about to celebrate twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>years with Toyota. So but pretty much my my very

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<v Speaker 1>last extra gig was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I was

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<v Speaker 1>hired by Toyota the next week, so I was like, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I have a career. The acting thing is

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<v Speaker 1>just not gonna help from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to

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<v Speaker 1>the career you're going to do for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. That's kind of cool. That's kind of cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people like, what was your last job? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>a vampire slayer? What did you do? I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a picture you sent us of me and you and

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<v Speaker 1>another one of our background actors and script am I doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What earth is this pose? It's you're the only one

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't realize that you weren't in a chorus line

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I daniel I don't know, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was adorable and I loved it, and clearly I've treasured

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<v Speaker 1>it for years. So I'm so glad you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>in like matching Denham too. Yes, I complete recognize you,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I totally recognize you. You do not,

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God. From the second I saw the picture,

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<v Speaker 1>I completely recognize you because you did multiple episodes, and

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<v Speaker 1>again we were around the same age, so we were

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of together. You were in It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>you were in the classroom scenes as a kid. Um

1:12:17.600 --> 1:12:19.800
<v Speaker 1>we were. It was always kind of around Eric. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I recognized you from the second I saw the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Oh that just warms my heart. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure if you guys would remember, but yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the picture. I'm like, oh, yeah, I totally

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<v Speaker 1>remember you and being in the hallways with you with

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<v Speaker 1>the lockers and all that stuff. Yeah, that picture. I

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<v Speaker 1>think They made me change my shirt though, right after

1:12:36.720 --> 1:12:39.880
<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, you both can't work down. So see

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, Danielle's wearing denim, take it off. That's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much what would happen. I mean, I'll walk in with

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<v Speaker 1>certain outfits and they'd be like, yeah, honey, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work. So that's so. Were you in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>at the time we were you were doing the show? Yeah, yes,

1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I lived near Pasadena, so just a quick quick ride

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<v Speaker 1>on the four or five every day. Yeah, it was local.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to ask you, but I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling your favorite scene was probably when you were featured

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<v Speaker 1>as Jacqueline with Will. But do you have any like

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<v Speaker 1>other real specific memory of something that just really stands

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<v Speaker 1>out from your time on Boy Meats World? I do

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<v Speaker 1>that is definitely my favorite, but they're just a flashback

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<v Speaker 1>to the fifties. You were in that episode two. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in that one. I had a poodle skirt, the

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<v Speaker 1>pony tails scarf um and we were at Chubby's in

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<v Speaker 1>the scene that I was in. So that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of my other favorites. Was just because I got to

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<v Speaker 1>go through full like hair and makeup and wardrobe and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that wasn't really that was a fun costume. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they provide did they provide the costume for you

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<v Speaker 1>that time? You didn't have to bring your own. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. Yeah, it was cool. I was looking for

1:13:43.520 --> 1:13:45.840
<v Speaker 1>it and I forgot the title of the episode, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good one. Oh man, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>till we get to those. I don't know. We did

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the flashbacks to different times, but one

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<v Speaker 1>was the was the was that the toaster one? I

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<v Speaker 1>think there was the forties? I don't remember. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember we did the forties? The forties? Was the cat

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<v Speaker 1>that took us from the cat from Sabrina took us

1:14:05.680 --> 1:14:08.599
<v Speaker 1>back in time from forties episode? I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>the toaster. There's something that the coaster back to the fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when we're like most of the cast of Happy

1:14:13.360 --> 1:14:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Days was on the episode. Right, I'm like, Shanza Belli

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. We're going to get a lot of I'll

1:14:19.080 --> 1:14:21.800
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of emails telling us exactly how could happen?

1:14:21.920 --> 1:14:26.599
<v Speaker 1>We should stop talking about it now. Yeah, that's so funny. Well, Melody,

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<v Speaker 1>we thank you so much for being here with us,

1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for being a part of Boy Meets

1:14:30.920 --> 1:14:34.519
<v Speaker 1>World with us all that twenty plus years ago. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot to us. Oh, thank you so much for including me.

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<v Speaker 1>This was so much fun. I was so stoked when

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<v Speaker 1>I got the email, so it's just so great to

1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:44.280
<v Speaker 1>see you all again. It was so great to see

1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you to is there is there anywhere if if people

1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:49.080
<v Speaker 1>want to want to find you, could you Are you

1:14:49.080 --> 1:14:52.640
<v Speaker 1>on social media or anything? Yeah? Yeah, Melody m M

1:14:52.760 --> 1:14:58.320
<v Speaker 1>one three is my handle. I'm pretty sure I don't

1:14:58.360 --> 1:15:01.120
<v Speaker 1>message myself a lot, so I forget. It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us. Was great to see you, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is so nice. I totally remember, especially when I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the picture, Like at first I was kind of

1:15:13.160 --> 1:15:15.519
<v Speaker 1>and then I completely remember because again, we had the

1:15:15.840 --> 1:15:19.040
<v Speaker 1>extras were kind of extras. I don't like that connotation.

1:15:19.040 --> 1:15:23.360
<v Speaker 1>The background actors were were carpet like compartmentalized. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>you all had your kind of classroom extras, I said

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<v Speaker 1>it again, which I was never really a part of. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I got to meet Dusty and everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>But then as we grew up and Eric was more

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<v Speaker 1>involved with other people around as opposed to just being

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<v Speaker 1>in the school, there was a group of background actors

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<v Speaker 1>where I was with a lot and Justin and Melody.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all the kind of the same people that

1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:43.920
<v Speaker 1>were around there, which is really neat, so I sort

1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:46.040
<v Speaker 1>of buried this lead, but it actually didn't occur to

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<v Speaker 1>me until we were already recording this episode. UM, but

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<v Speaker 1>my one of my best friends, UM, one of my

1:15:53.840 --> 1:15:56.960
<v Speaker 1>closest friends. He's coming over to my house for dinner tonight.

1:15:56.960 --> 1:15:58.960
<v Speaker 1>He was going to bring this up. He was in

1:15:59.040 --> 1:16:00.840
<v Speaker 1>my wedding party. I actually he was one of my

1:16:00.840 --> 1:16:03.599
<v Speaker 1>group's been at my wedding. His name is Chris Levittis

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a director from a writer director, and I

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<v Speaker 1>met him because I was I acted in a movie

1:16:08.880 --> 1:16:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that he directed in my twenties and that's when we

1:16:11.360 --> 1:16:15.200
<v Speaker 1>became friends. But he was an extra on Boy Leats World,

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<v Speaker 1>one of his first jobs as a kid, and it

1:16:19.000 --> 1:16:21.800
<v Speaker 1>was when he was under age, I think because he

1:16:21.840 --> 1:16:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was a kid actor, so he remember seeing his But I,

1:16:24.840 --> 1:16:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I talked him about it because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when we first talked about doing this episode. I was like, Oh,

1:16:28.080 --> 1:16:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you should come on. He actually doesn't have many memories.

1:16:31.240 --> 1:16:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I think he only did one or two episodes, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the first things he said to

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<v Speaker 1>me when we started working either He's like, you know,

1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:38.960
<v Speaker 1>we I was actually on your show back of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've always been curious if I can see him

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<v Speaker 1>in an episode, so as we do, our are it

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be the second or third season, so I

1:16:46.200 --> 1:16:47.720
<v Speaker 1>have to keep an eye out for him somewhere in

1:16:47.720 --> 1:16:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the background of one of our episodes. Another one of

1:16:49.720 --> 1:16:55.320
<v Speaker 1>our background actors was cal penn Real Yes really yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in what he was in like a sports scene. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get him on our let's um, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the chances so, so we're watching a lot of alone

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<v Speaker 1>right now, do you think the chances are that Dusty

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<v Speaker 1>maybe lives a life off the grid, which is why

1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:15.720
<v Speaker 1>he knows nothing about the podcast communing with the Bears? Yeah,

1:17:16.080 --> 1:17:18.559
<v Speaker 1>like maybe we just Dusty has no idea because he's

1:17:18.600 --> 1:17:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like skinning something right now, or you know, making a

1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:24.759
<v Speaker 1>fire with sticks or pete. I don't know. I'm still

1:17:24.840 --> 1:17:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm still determined. I'm still determined her Dusty for Dusty.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, this was really a great way to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up our twenty three and Me episode. Thank you so

1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:37.760
<v Speaker 1>much to twenty three and Me for helping us get

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<v Speaker 1>to know our backgrounds both personally and from from boy

1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Meat's world. It was really a really smart way of

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<v Speaker 1>bringing this all together. And like I said, I am

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<v Speaker 1>really excited now that I have a couple of wellness

1:17:50.880 --> 1:17:53.519
<v Speaker 1>and health. Uh you know, some information about myself, but

1:17:53.560 --> 1:17:55.599
<v Speaker 1>now I can take to my doctor and can hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>change the decisions I make for my future knowing a

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<v Speaker 1>few things. And so I encourage you to take the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three and me test as well and get to

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<v Speaker 1>know your background and get to know a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about your health and how you can help take

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<v Speaker 1>care of yourself to prevent issues from coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. I also always figured I was a superhero,

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<v Speaker 1>but to actually be told I am, it really changed

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<v Speaker 1>the whole ball game for me. It really did. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty great to get that confirmation finally. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can get your superhero confirmation at twenty three in

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