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Speaker 1: Welcome to a special episode of Pod Meets World. This

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Speaker 1: episode is brought to you by twenty three and Me,

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Speaker 1: which you guys have heard us now over almost an

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Speaker 1: entire season of Boy Meets World, talking a lot about

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Speaker 1: our background actors and how important they were to the

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Speaker 1: feel of the show, to our set environment, how we

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Speaker 1: were friends with a lot of them. I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: right off by saying, spoiler alert, there is no Dusty

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Speaker 1: in this episode. I'm really bummed about it. We have

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Speaker 1: been on a on a worldwide search for Dusty Gould. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we haven't heard from seem by the way that came up.

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Speaker 1: You called her see Me to her face, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she knew her name was see Me. Well, yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: It was the people thought that it was like a

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Speaker 1: behind her back sort of thing. Oh my gosh. Yeah no,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think there was something a little mean

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Speaker 1: the problem. We don't remember her name because we always

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Speaker 1: called her see Me, and she responded to it like

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Speaker 1: that's what we did. Um. It was just because it

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Speaker 1: was the first week of the first season that we

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Speaker 1: asked her where she was from and she said see

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Speaker 1: me Valley and um. So we were just like, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, you're so you're a Valley girl. We'll call

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Speaker 1: you see me um, but yeah, I would love to

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Speaker 1: talk to her. Yeah. And Dusty, we're still on a hunt,

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Speaker 1: so you never know. But we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: to a few of our other background actors today because

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Speaker 1: it is very important for us and everyone to know

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Speaker 1: your background, speaking of which I am coming to you today.

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Speaker 1: So sleep deprived, and I guess it's really come to

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Speaker 1: my attention through my twenty three and me results that

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Speaker 1: I am less likely to be a deep sleeper, which

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Speaker 1: are you? Isn't that what it said? Yes, I think

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Speaker 1: I think we're can say this from your jeans. Isn't

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Speaker 1: it cool? By the way, another thing that I think

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Speaker 1: is amazing is that it tells me I am most

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Speaker 1: I might sneeze when looking at the sun. And when

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Speaker 1: I tell you, I have never once walked into the

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Speaker 1: sun and not sneezed the exact same way. But I

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Speaker 1: didn't see that. Where did this say that? Of your

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Speaker 1: so much to read? I don't like like I haven't

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Speaker 1: explored all all the ins and out, and that's really

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Speaker 1: That's the really cool thing is that there are so

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Speaker 1: many different reports and some of them are just really fun,

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Speaker 1: like finding out you're more likely to be photo sensitive.

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Speaker 1: I'm also more likely to drink more caffeine than most,

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Speaker 1: and that checks right off right? Would you probably have

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Speaker 1: and I drink no caffeine. I have no caffeine in

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Speaker 1: my life whatsoever. And it says I'm less like and

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Speaker 1: I am not likely to be an especially deep sleeper.

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Speaker 1: I still don't get you. We were talking about delta

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Speaker 1: ways or something. Now as I heard what you're explaining

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Speaker 1: to me, Danielle, I'm a superhero, did you? Did you

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Speaker 1: explain it wrong? That's what's said, uh, superhuman, you have

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Speaker 1: mediclorians or whatever it is, and that you're a Jedi. Yes,

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Speaker 1: first of all, let's not that's that's it's in my

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Speaker 1: because of the underwear. That's because of the underwear. That too,

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Speaker 1: The underwear just makes me lucky twenty three and me

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Speaker 1: is telling me I'm a weak hold on. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about ancestry. Just really quick. Did you guys learn anything

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Speaker 1: new or totally? So? What was what was the story

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Speaker 1: that your family told you and the reality of your Well,

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Speaker 1: it's not that my family told me something that was

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Speaker 1: just we just heard that we were Dutch and Irish

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Speaker 1: come came out that I am almost Jewish. Nice, I

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Speaker 1: am nine ash can Nazi Jewish. Wow, And you didn't

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Speaker 1: know that, no idea whatsoever. And of course then when

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Speaker 1: I said that to my my parents, my dad was like, well,

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Speaker 1: of course my great grandfather was do or something where

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Speaker 1: we were like, well, why did anybody tell about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, so that was completely I'm I'm I'm nine

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Speaker 1: I was shocked. Writer. Did you learn anything in yours about,

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Speaker 1: It said I am mostly too. I am most likely

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Speaker 1: to have restless legs restless leg syndrome, which I've had

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Speaker 1: you guys can remember from when I was on I

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Speaker 1: had severe acne. Yeah, and so did my dad. I

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Speaker 1: So we haven't gotten to it on the show, but

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Speaker 1: well we'll start to be able to see the the

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Speaker 1: amount of makeup. They had a cake on my face.

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Speaker 1: It was the worst, the worst. But yeah, knowing this

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Speaker 1: is there something now you're going to change about your life?

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Speaker 1: Will you talk to your doctor about restless leg syndrome?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything or do you take anything for anxiety?

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Speaker 1: Will you start? Yeah? Well no, the anxiety thing is

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Speaker 1: really interesting because, um, I've never really thought of myself

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Speaker 1: But I do I have noticed lately that like I

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Speaker 1: worst thing you can do to manage anxiety. Um. You know.

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Speaker 1: And especially like during the pandemic, there were there's these

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Speaker 1: like being able to recognize that there's in a genetic

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Speaker 1: find healthy ways to contend with it. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: And the things I always tell people now that I've

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Speaker 1: and but that's one of the things about the twenty

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Speaker 1: For instance, that what it says when I looked at

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Speaker 1: there was literally, and I'm using that word correctly, a

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Speaker 1: and actors like to talk and kids like to talk.

426
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: And yet if you think about what it would be

427
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: like to have twelve kids in a classroom set, we're

428
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: also work needs to get done. If if they were

429
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: allowed to just talk and joke and laugh, it would

430
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: be completely out of control. So it's a it's um,

431
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of like you talk as much

432
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: as you can before somebody says, all right, keep it down,

433
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, no personal conversations. We need to get work done.

434
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: And so it was it was always like a tough

435
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: balance between wanting to be like, so what's your name

436
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: and where are you from and what do you like

437
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: to do without actually then being in trouble because there's

438
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: no time for that. Yeah. I think I really don't

439
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: actually don't remember you guys. Havn't my conversation right before

440
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: your lance? Yeah? I think you just all seemed very focused,

441
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: especially you writer. You were like, it just seemed like

442
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 1: you were so on it, and I was he was,

443
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, so do you tell anybody now about

444
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: your history as a background actor. Yeah, I do sometimes. Um,

445
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: it's been what like twenties for a lot of beers. Yeah,

446
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: so let's just say twenty a lot, Yes, twenty a lot. Uh.

447
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: If I have made new friends, like you know my kids,

448
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, you start making new friends with your kids,

449
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, they're their friends and parents and things like that.

450
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: And it let's say I have a few drinks and

451
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: we're watching or whatever, flipping through in Disney Plus and

452
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: the I'm like, oh, hey, you should you should put

453
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 1: a Womans rolled for a second, you know, so like

454
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: to show you something you know, I'll find it episode

455
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's so fun, like me, it's it's

456
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of a fun conversation. Do you know how

457
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: many episodes you're actually in that you that you can

458
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: see yourself and have added it up. I haven't. It's

459
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: maybe close to fifteen, but it's over the course of

460
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: two seasons or yeah. Yeah. I mean obviously there were

461
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: some shows where you didn't have the school scenes, right

462
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: if there was a lot of shooting, and some days

463
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: it was it was just a one one day call

464
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: and one scene and that was it was Dusty there

465
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: with you while you were there. Dusty Gould red hair,

466
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: one of the one of the background actors. He was

467
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: one of the Yeah, he was in the classroom with

468
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: in the class probably and I realized that most of

469
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: the kids in the classroom were miners. Yeah, I wanted

470
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: to keep them young in the classroom, so I think

471
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: they kind of had to separated because you know, they

472
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: had to go do school. And yeah, we're just done

473
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: a sitting sitting on our chairs and an empty stage waiting, waiting,

474
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: so much downtime on us it yeah, yeah, thank you

475
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: for sending us these amazing pictures. Have this great picture.

476
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: We will post them on our social media so that

477
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: you guys get to see exactly who she is and

478
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: then you can spot her when we get to her

479
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: her episodes and seasons three and four. It was really

480
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: great to catch up with you, Genie. I totally remember

481
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: your face. You haven't changed at all. Thank you, guys,

482
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: you're all the same to me too. It's funny, it's awesome.

483
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: It's really nice to reconnect with you. Thank you for

484
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: all of the Yeah, thanks for coming on our show,

485
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: and thank you for all the work you did for

486
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: us all those twenty plus years ago. Thank you, Thank you, guys.

487
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: I love it. I love your podcast. Been listening. I

488
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: think it's really cool. I love everyone's perspective and and

489
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: you know what you went through. I think it's really

490
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: neat because I was just a small part of it,

491
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: and it really it's I don't know, you know, you

492
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: always try and guess and think how everyone else is thinking,

493
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: or what it is their challenge is, or maybe they

494
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: don't have challenges and only I have challenges. Great, it

495
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: was really great. Thank you so much. It's great to

496
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: see you. All right, all right, guys. Our next guest

497
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: was a background actor on Boy Meets Worlds in seasons

498
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: two through four, and then he came back in season

499
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: six just to watch a taping and was invited back

500
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: to be an extra in that episode. That's awesome. That's awesome,

501
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: so cool. Um, so let's please welcome. I think I

502
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: beleeve Justin. If I'm saying your name wrong, Justin ur Mayo.

503
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: That's absolutely perfect, yes, all right, Justin welcome. Oh my god,

504
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: this is insane. Right off the bat. I absolutely remember Justin,

505
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: absolutely do. The second I saw your picture, I was like,

506
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely no, yeah, I knew exactly

507
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: you were right away. You did a whole bunch of episodes,

508
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: and I completely remember you. Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks. Well,

509
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: of course I think I did like fifty maybe you

510
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: did a whole lot of episodes. You were one of

511
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: the regulars there for most of the time, so yeah,

512
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: I completely remember Justin. Wait, so you did maybe fifty

513
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: episodes just within seasons two, three, and four. So I

514
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: just I just watched um. So the first episode I

515
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: did was season two episode eight, banned on the run,

516
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: and then I did the rest of that season, did

517
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: season three, season four, and then I missed the show

518
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: so much like I went to an audience taping of

519
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: it when you moved to Radford. I watched the show.

520
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: Then I snuck over to the bathroom, which was in

521
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: a sound stage next door. I hid in the bathroom

522
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: for half an hour, waited for the audience to leave

523
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: and everybody get escorted out. Then I walked back onto

524
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: the sound stage and I saw Steve in Deed and

525
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: they saw me, and they jumped up and they said,

526
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, Justin, what are you doing here? And

527
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I said, I came to see the show. And they said,

528
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: you have to come back and do an episode, and

529
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I said that please, that would be honest. Oh my gosh,

530
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: she asked. So Steve Hayfer and d D to Stephano.

531
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: We talked about them a little bit our stage. I'm

532
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: sure you remember that justin. Yes, you guys had so

533
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: many I don't really remember the catch right, but you

534
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: guys had so many in jokes and catch phrases. And

535
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: you guys are always having such an awesome time. It's

536
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: so funny. One of the pictures that we have of

537
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: you justin you are in the scene with Lesha Haley,

538
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: which is exactly the same scene we were just talking

539
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: about with Genie. There's another background actor we have from

540
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: that set that that Lesha Haley episode Shallow Boy was

541
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: really special. I remember that I still had my script

542
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: somewhere in the garage. I think it's because everybody has

543
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: to react to her playing the song. I think that

544
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: was why it was like in Chubbies, She's she does.

545
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: It's like the whole point of the scene is that

546
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: if she's making a scene right, and everybody has to

547
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: sort of react to it, as opposed to other scenes

548
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: where were just like talking the foreground and everybody's just

549
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: kind of you know, having normal life. That's the Atlantis

550
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: Morris set exactly. Oh you're giving some I'm looking at

551
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: the picture right now, you're giving such a great like

552
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: over the shoulder, look at Lesha Haley. This kind of

553
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: your eyebrow race. You've got the boymes World eyebrow rais

554
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: and you are sitting there looking at her like she's

555
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: she's off her nut. It's great. It's absolutely phenomenal. Second

556
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: I saw that picture, I was like, oh, yeah, I know,

557
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: just I know exactly. They kept coming back to me

558
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: over and over and said, bigger, bigger, bigger. But that's

559
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: how I totally learned on that set that you have

560
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: to go pretty big for people to notice things. Sometimes.

561
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: It's true you would have been, especially in that episode,

562
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: what would have been characterized as a featured extra, right yeah,

563
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't. You don't get any extra money.

564
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: It's just a it's just a good you know, you're

565
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: saying really well and you do a little bit which

566
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: is really cool. And the longer I was there, the

567
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: more they threw me cool bits to do, like at

568
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: think there's one time you hit a ball off the

569
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: pool table and like kids be in the foot and

570
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: then one time I played they came in I think

571
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: a Train of Consequences where we're you're on the train

572
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: the New Year's E party. Yeah, and I played the

573
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: pizza guy and Wryder comes up to me and he's like,

574
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: does anybody know anything about deliveries? And then then he

575
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: like rushes me out the door and then comes back

576
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: and says, you know, he's gonna good thing is he's

577
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: going to deliver ms Mrs g Andelle's babies and they'll

578
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: be they'll be in an under thirty minutes or whatever

579
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: is the joke. That's right. I forgot about that. That's

580
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: so funny. And so that's why, right, Yeah, but you

581
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: and not because we were around the same age. You

582
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: weren't really in the classroom, right, you were? You and

583
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: I were always kind of in the same scenes together. Yeah,

584
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: so I was too old to be one of the

585
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: classroom regular kids, and they wanted to have you know,

586
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: kids that were people were over eighteen to be you know,

587
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: the hallway kids, Chubbies and whatever else like that. So yeah,

588
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: I was. I'm fifty two now, it's still a bit

589
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: older than you, but I was, yeah close, what are

590
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: your old? You know, I'm I'm forty six, so yeah,

591
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: we're pretty Yeah, so we're decently close. Did you have

592
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: to eat in all those chubby scenes? Um? I think

593
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: I ate a few times in a chubby scene. Mostly

594
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: I was standing up or you know, pretending to be

595
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: breaking up with a girlfriend in the background or something crazy.

596
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: You know, so much fun. Do you have any particular

597
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: episode or scene that you remember the most. Oh gosh,

598
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean I really like the Train of Consequence, so

599
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: that was really funny. And I remember Charisma Carpenter was

600
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: in that episode. I didn't know who that was. I

601
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: think we're sitting back a training me, Will and Charisma

602
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: and I had no idea who she was. And it

603
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: was really fun. It was just it was different because

604
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: it was a different set. So there's a really good

605
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: memory there. Yeah, the the one with the monkeys was

606
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: really cool because I grew up watching I mean, I

607
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: was a little too young to watch the Monkeys originally,

608
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: but you know, when I was a kid, there's only

609
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: like three channels, so I had to watch the Monkeys.

610
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: You met the Monkeys the band, I instantly went to

611
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: the episode where Eric has monkeys. Yeah, okay, that was

612
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: an episode where Eric has monkeys. Y's got the same

613
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: monkey that that Ross has on Friends. That same Marcel

614
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: monkey was on our show. I have no recollection of that. Yeah,

615
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: so that's where my head went. I was like, oh,

616
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: you're in the episode where I'm with the monkey. Um, So,

617
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, can you tell us a little bit about

618
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 1: how you started in in the business. Yeah, I mean

619
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: I I absolutely obsessed with movies as a kid, and

620
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: I used to cut out and use paper ads and

621
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: pasted my wall with mouse because I couldn't afford posters,

622
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: so I had movie ads from the Sunday calendar all

623
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: over my wall. And then I just wanted to be

624
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: an extra and my but I just wanted to do something.

625
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: And I was, you know, just out of college, and

626
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do with My sister goes

627
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: on should be a next trim, like you can do that? She's, oh, yeah,

628
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: why don't you get the drama logue and go? She said,

629
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: go do something free and if you like it, um,

630
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: you're meant to do this. So I went and worked

631
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: on a science fiction movie, played a cracked out space

632
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: guy or something, and it worked for like fourteen hours

633
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: for zero pay, and I couldn't wait to do it again.

634
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: And then eventually I got an agent agency. So I

635
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: was working on like nine O two A No, and

636
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: like Step by Step and Party of Five and the

637
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: same that that gact, same group of three age Grange. Right,

638
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: if you were if you if you were eighteen or

639
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: over eighteen but still look young, you could be in

640
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: the background of all those shows. That's what they needed.

641
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like seven and Clueless and so many things.

642
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: That was crazy. And then it's the best to get

643
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: on the show and be a regular because to be

644
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: a regular like nine or two on basically doing like

645
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: nine O now, don't you want know? Party of five?

646
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: Boy needs World. And then I then I do a

647
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: random day and I work on like show Girls for

648
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: three days or something and something random. That's so cool.

649
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: And I got into and I got into SAG and

650
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: and d D. I said, d D, if I get

651
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: into SAG, but you keep me on the show? She

652
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: said yes, And do you want to hear my SAG story?

653
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: I got into SAG. So I get a call one

654
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: day from from like my agent agency, and they said,

655
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: would you be interested in being Johnny Depps? But double?

656
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: And I said um, and and my brain just said,

657
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, normally you might think Beckham, I'll think about that.

658
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I said, oh, yeah, absolutely. She goes, or she said,

659
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: like trying, but yeah, exactly. Yeah. So well here's a

660
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: bat and she goes. I said, so what does that entail? Exactly?

661
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: And she said, well, okay, you go. I lived, I

662
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: live in Orange County and said, okay, um, you have

663
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: to go up to the studio, shows goes. I'll call

664
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: you back in now and give you the details. You'll

665
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: go up there, you'll talk to him for a mental

666
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: interview for a moment. You'll pull down your pants and

667
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: they'll take a bit through your butt a polaroid. They'll

668
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: they'll give it to a producer and they'll probably give

669
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: it to Johnny Depp. And and I said, so okay, yeah, yeah,

670
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: I'll do that, I guess, and and she hands on

671
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: the phone. I go take a shower, I get ready

672
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: and like, what the hell am I doing? And then

673
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: she she calls back an hour late and she goes, oh,

674
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: they I'm sorry, they just found somebody to do that.

675
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, but I'm like, oh bummer. And

676
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: I was so disappointed. Man, I could have been Johnny Depps.

677
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: But but and what get you back? Okay, Well, first

678
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: of all, do you remember where it was from? So

679
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: it's it's it's Don Juan de Marco with Johnny Depp

680
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: and Marlon Branda film like that film. Yeah, good movie.

681
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: So two days later I get a call and so

682
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: they threw me a bone. They put me on um

683
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: don one de Marco. So I get up there and

684
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was the movie. And I was like, hey,

685
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: that guy looks like Marlon Brando and they're like, that's

686
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: because that is Marlon Brando and as though, and that's

687
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp on Holy Ship. So we're in working on

688
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: scenes and Marlon Brando really like loves like the little guy,

689
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: the low and the totem pulp person. He was like

690
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: talking to me, like justin. He's like he heard my name.

691
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: He said, it's getting kind of warm in here, don't

692
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: you think? He said, yeah, it was getting kind of warm,

693
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: And they brought an air conditioner just for him. And

694
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: I got stuck in a stairwell with Marlon Brando. So

695
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm eating snacks and Marlon Brandon and a thin assistant

696
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: director come in and they're arguing and They're like, they say, Marlin,

697
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: can you work at like an extra fifteen minutes, Like

698
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: I sure, I'll work an extra fifty minutes and I'll

699
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: just come in fifteen minutes late tomorrow. And they kept

700
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: going back and forth, and Marlin Brandon was just handling

701
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: this guy really easily and really calmly. And the guy

702
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: turned to me and saw me, and he got really

703
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: mad and he he said, you, like you need to leave,

704
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: And Marlon Brando said, oh no, no, no, no, no,

705
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: the kids stays. And I was like, holy like, I'm

706
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: gonna tell this story for the rest of my life.

707
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: So he gave one. So Marlon Brando gave one extra girl.

708
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: She played a nurse. He goes, okay, you're you have

709
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: lines because he was there doing like small talk, and

710
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: they were mentioned talking about how to get into SACK.

711
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: Do you know the voucher system? How you got into

712
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: SAD So you needed three SAG vouchers. And for our listeners,

713
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: SAG is Screen Actors, just the union for actors that

714
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: you have to be a member of in order to

715
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, collect your residuals and have your health insurance

716
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: and all that exactly and get paid eighty bucks instead

717
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: of forty bucks. Exactly, that's an extra and um, he said, okay,

718
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: you want to get into he he like she he

719
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: was heard. We were all like trying hard to get

720
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: into SACK. We need our like last voucher. He was, okay,

721
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: you have lines. You're gonna have lines. He gave us

722
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: nurse lines. Marlon Brando out of nowhere, just gives her lines.

723
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: So we shoot. I go home. Um, I get a

724
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: call like two days later, they really need you on

725
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: set don Wanda Market. They have to do a reshoot

726
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 1: or whatever. I rushed up to the set. I get

727
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: there and I was non union and I needed one

728
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: more voucher and I'd waited a whole year. I didn't

729
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: get my third voucher. And she signs signs of vouchers

730
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: handsome to me and she said, go home, you're done

731
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: for the day. And said, what are you talking about?

732
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: She goes, welcome to SAG. I said, what do you?

733
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: I said, this is Sag Belcher because yeah, somebody up

734
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: there likes you, somebody, somebody really big is really looking

735
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: out for you. I said, I'm like, are you telling me?

736
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando one got me into SAG And She's like

737
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that goodbye. I walked away. Random got

738
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: you into SAG. I think you know who knows like

739
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: And I heard from a couple other people that that's

740
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: what they heard, the same thing, because either Marlon or

741
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: Johnny or somebody they were they're really cool and you know,

742
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: And I got into SAD. I got to stay on

743
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: boy Meats World, so I had a regular gig because

744
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: normally when you got into SAG is an extra, your

745
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: jobs just went down because you could, you know, because

746
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: the first I don't want to pay you the extra money. Yeah,

747
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: because only the first certain number of people on a

748
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: SAG TV show or move or extras have to be SAG,

749
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: and everybody above that number could be non union. So

750
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: in a crowd scene, there's forty S people in a

751
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: thousand non union people. So did you stay in the

752
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: entertainment industry? Do you still work in the entertainment industry? Now?

753
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: I do, Well, I have a regular job. I'm a

754
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: buyer for a medical company, but for um So. I

755
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: had a daughter, so eventually had a quit, quit extra work,

756
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: and but I worked on about three hundred things, and

757
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: then I started to move into local commercials. And then

758
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: I started writing, and I said, if if no one's

759
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna put me in anything, I'll put myself in something.

760
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: So I started writing and directing indie movies. So I

761
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: directed a movie called It Suck a Jones, which is

762
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: a like a black exploitation movie. So here's something really interesting.

763
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: When I first started, when I was cast on the

764
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: show and I shot my first episode A couple episodes

765
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: before that was the episode called Who's Afraid of Corey Wolf? Yeah?

766
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: And the Halloween one right yeah, And there's a small

767
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: theme in about how he thinks he has to kill

768
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Topanga to like become a full fledged werewolf or something.

769
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: And I took that colonel with an idea, and that's

770
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: the plot of the first movie I made, blood Suck

771
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: at Jones, But it was about a vampire making um,

772
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: becoming a full fledge vampire. He has to kill his

773
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: first love. So we made that, we got into vessels,

774
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: that did pretty good, and then we made a sequel,

775
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: blood Suck at Jones Versus A Creeping Death. Where can

776
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: we find these movies? Where can everyone find your stuff?

777
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: So they're both on Amazon and you can get um

778
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: but you can you can rent them on Amazon. Can

779
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: rent them on Amazon Prime. We used to be there

780
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: for free, but now it's only for anial, but we're

781
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: rereleasing it to put it on a lot of platforms.

782
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: And then I just finished our biggest movie. It's called

783
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: Zanna Do hell Fire and I love these titles, thanks Matt.

784
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: And I wrote it for my daughter, like I was

785
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: a single dad, so I wanted to write a movie

786
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: about a single dad. So it's about a nine year

787
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: old girl who brings her comic book character from the

788
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: future to the present just to hang out, and her

789
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: evil sister follows and all hell breaks loose. That's so cool.

790
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: I want to watch that. And okay, well here's another

791
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: little tidbit. I was gonna make it Union, and I

792
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: wanted to cast you in it as the single dad.

793
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: And then I didn't have enough money, um to make

794
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: it Union, so I didn't. I never ended up contacting you,

795
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: but that My plan was always to get all of

796
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: you in a movie one day. That would be like

797
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: maybe we could do blood Sucker Jones three totally many scripts,

798
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: so but that's still my dream and I hope to

799
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: do that one day for sure. Thank you so much

800
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: for being here with us and telling us about your

801
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: life now and your experiences as a background actor. It

802
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: really means a lot to us, so thanks so much.

803
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: This podcast is incredible, like hearing all hearing your feelings

804
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: about how you thought you were going to be fired

805
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: and and then I thought I didn't get invited back,

806
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: and then I found out the next week it was

807
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: like an off day, off week. Well, thank you again, Justin.

808
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: This has been a real, a real pleasure. So thank

809
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: you for being here with us. We wish you the

810
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: best and we can't wait to reconnect on our our

811
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: movie set. I'm sure, I'm ut, please please, thank you, Justin. Jason,

812
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: how are you doing. I'm well, it's great you guys.

813
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: I to see you. Or you were a background actor

814
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: in season three. Tell us a little bit about some

815
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: of the episodes you were a part of, and like,

816
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: what is your favorite memory from being a background actor

817
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: on Boy Meets World. The only episode I really remember

818
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: vividly was there was a scene in the I want

819
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: to say it was in the lunch room or maybe

820
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: in that um that hangout place that that you guys

821
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: always went to, and uh, Corey uh was being bullied

822
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: by this guy and they brought in this like really

823
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: really really tall, good looking, like Nordic cooking kid, and

824
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: there was always there was a big height differential, which

825
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 1: was very funny. But they made it even funnier because

826
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: they had this guy who was already quite a bit

827
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: taller than Ben stand on an apple box like watching

828
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: that as like I want to be actor, uh, you know,

829
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: trying to start my career and just watching the decisions

830
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: being made on the fly, and I thought that was

831
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: so cool. So how were you were you eighteen playing younger?

832
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: I was twenty three. Wow, okay, if you were in

833
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: Chubby's you could really be any age. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

834
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: because you guys were in high school by the time

835
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: amazon on the show. I don't think I could. If

836
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: you get started, yeah, uh doing background work or just

837
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: in the in the business and you know in general.

838
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: Um I had well, I had just moved to l

839
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: A when I was doing extra works, so so I

840
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: moved here in so I was on the show nine six,

841
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: So I didn't know anyone here. I didn't have any friends,

842
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: and I had heard that oh if you could go

843
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: do background work and goes sign up and you know,

844
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: so that's how I paid my bills sort of. The

845
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: first here here. Where'd you move from Pennsylvania? Oh? Nice,

846
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: outside of Allentown. You know the Billy Joels song. That's

847
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: of course I know Pennsylvania. Well, both my brothers went

848
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: to school in Pennsylvania. Okay, so that's very cool. Now,

849
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: what made you come out here? What made you come

850
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: out to Los Angeles? Was it just the bug to

851
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: be an actor? It was a little bit of that.

852
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: It was there was a really really big snowstorm. So

853
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: I used to work in radio, and the station I

854
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: worked at back in Allentown, we were known for the

855
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: school closings, like back before the internet. He would do

856
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: the school closing the best form on the radio. So

857
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: I I worked overnight, So I would stay overnight, uh

858
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: and do my shift, and then in the morning I

859
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: would have to stay and help the morning show take

860
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: the calls. So I remember driving home after being completely

861
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: sleep deprived in this blizzard, and I got home, I'm like,

862
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: why why am I here? Why? It's terrible. Yeah. For

863
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: for Jason, just very quickly, for Writer and Danielle, the

864
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: two West Coast kids. So when we were East Coast

865
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: kids growing up, you would wake up on a day

866
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: when there was snow on the ground and you would

867
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: put on the radio and you would wait for your

868
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: school to be called, and then they tell you if

869
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: you were delayed or if you're if you had a

870
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: snow day and it was canceled. It was the best.

871
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: So I don't think you had that out here on

872
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: the West coast, did you in the mountains and the

873
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: mountain towns, But but you would. You'd sit there and

874
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: you'd wait. It would say like, and the Avon Public

875
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: schools are and if if it was a good dj,

876
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: they would pause because they would either be are open

877
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: and running normally and you go, or in which case

878
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: the horse and buggy couldn't get you to school, right exactly,

879
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: you couldn't get We had slaves, weren'tive, but that's what

880
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: it was. It would be and they'd be like Avon

881
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: Public schools are closed today, and you'd be like, yes,

882
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: not thinking that. Of course, then you had to do

883
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: an extra day in the summer because they just tack

884
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: it on because yeah, but it was you just have

885
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: a day off where you'd go sledding or you would

886
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: place noball you It was the greatest thing in the world.

887
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: So it's something that is just Jason and I know

888
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: what this is. But if you did not grow up

889
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: in that, you didn't you didn't know. So yeah, it's

890
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: totally cool, Jason. Were you a background actor on any

891
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: other shows? Yeah? I was on Friends a couple of times. Actually,

892
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: Like you can see me really well because it was

893
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: like the season two premier, like when the show was

894
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: just like absolutely white hot, at the top of the zeitgeist,

895
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, great, Ross gets off the plane with Julie. Yeah,

896
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: Rachel does this like pratfall on the airport over the furniture.

897
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm right there addressed as a limo driver. How fun.

898
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: I have to watch that again. And uh, I got

899
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: my sag card on Executive Decision, which was a movie

900
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: with Steven Seagal and Kurk Russell, John Leguizamo, everybody jumping

901
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: on the airplane. Yes, beat Wong Pump wasn't. Yes, it was. Yes,

902
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: it was a great I love the title because that

903
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: sounds exactly like a Steven Seagal movie. There's like a

904
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: hard to kill exec about Executive Decision and not it's

905
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: a spoiler alert, but it's from Seagal's only in like

906
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: the first fifteen minutes and then it's killed off. It's

907
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: a straight up Kurt Russell. Uh. Yeah, it's a great movie.

908
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: It's a great movie. I think we should explain to

909
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: everybody why having your SAG card is so important, because

910
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: it's now come up a couple of times, um and so,

911
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: as writer mentioned, SAG stands for the Screen Actors Guild,

912
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: and you it's it's joining SAG is a little bit

913
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: of a catch twenty two because you cannot have a

914
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: speaking role in television or a movie until you are

915
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 1: a member of ZAG. But you can't become a member

916
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: of ZAG until you have a speaking part. So we

917
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: can do one, right, you can do one, and then

918
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: you do you get something that's called heart lead. You

919
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: get your voucher. Yes, so top being taft heart lead

920
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: in means I think actually you get the option to

921
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: join right away. You can get yeah, and but there

922
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: are other ways to earn your SAG, like you get

923
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: like three SAG vouchers, right, and that what it used

924
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: to be here a time limit. Can you just get three? Okay?

925
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: Just three? Yeah? When I was doing it because STAG

926
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: and after we're separate unions at the time, So win SAG,

927
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: you you would get three vouchers doing background work because

928
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: they would have a certain allotment of union background actors

929
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: they would have to use, and then a certain allotment

930
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: of non union. So if you worked on the show

931
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: as a non union you wouldn't at a voucher. But

932
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: sometimes there was a slot they would open up, somebody

933
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: didn't show up and you would get bumped up and

934
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: you would get to use the union voucher for the day. Wow, Wow,

935
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: that's so cool. Yeah. So I got into SAG because

936
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: I did. I was a member of Equity, which is

937
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: the theater union. And I don't know if this is

938
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: still the case, but back then if you were a

939
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: member of Equity, after you were in Equity for a year,

940
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: you could get you were eligible for SAD. I think

941
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: just by being in Lame as Rob as a kid,

942
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: I then became eligible for SEX So I never had

943
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: to do like the voucher at half Heartley thing. I

944
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: just you know, I think I did the same thing.

945
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: I think well, after being in the Harvard Stage, I

946
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: was in Equity and then I was able to join SADE.

947
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: What year did you join SAG? Writer? Do you remember

948
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: nineteen nine? Daniel Jason ninety s five? See that's the

949
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: thing most actors, because it's a very big deal as

950
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: an actor to get your SAG card. It still says

951
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: when you joined too on the card, right, but you

952
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: don't need to look at it. Most actors, you ask

953
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: them like, when did you join SAG, and they can instantly.

954
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I was eighty nine, like I'll always remember, but now

955
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: I remember. There used to be a screen Extras guild,

956
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: remember that, I think pre like, it wasn't until the

957
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: mid nineties that the two guilds merged. It used to

958
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: be that if you were an extra, you you were

959
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: in a separate union. And then and then it became

960
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: all under SAG, and that was a big deal because

961
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: that's that's how then you could become a SAG member

962
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: by doing background work. Before that, you couldn't even do

963
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: it by doing background work. Yeah, yeah, I do remember that. Yeah,

964
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: background work didn't used to count. And once you're a

965
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: member of SAG you get health insurance as well, So

966
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: there's there's again, it's a it's a a double edged sword.

967
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Joining SAG means you pay dudes, So you have to

968
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: pay kind of a lot of money every year in

969
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: order to stay in SAG. You also have to earn

970
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money every year to stay in SAG,

971
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: and there are like two levels of earnings, like you

972
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: know whether you're going to be in Plan A or

973
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: Plan B, and Plan A is the better insured rents,

974
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: but it means you also have to be earning a

975
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: significantly large portion of money a year. That's gone. Now.

976
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: I don't think there's Plan A Plan B anymore. I

977
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: think there's just one plan that's not as good as

978
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: Plan A and not as bad as Plan B. I

979
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: think they kind of went in the middle and now

980
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: it's one and some people were happy with that and

981
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: some people where. There's been a lot of changes at SAG,

982
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: and some of them haven't been great. But so, Jason,

983
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: do you still work in the entertainment industry and what

984
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: are you doing now? Now? I'm managing a tour company

985
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: called Bikes and Hikes l A. But I am still

986
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: in entertainment a little bit. I host my own podcast

987
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: called a Lifetime of Hallmark, where we review and kind

988
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: of pick apart Lifetime and Hallmark movies and they're so

989
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: very like earnest and wholesome or they are just murdering

990
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: sex four and seven. I write, I'm trying to get

991
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: more into hiking. Is your company? Is it like cool

992
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: hikes around l A? Is that what you guys? Know?

993
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: We we cater to tourists from around the world, so

994
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: that we do biking tours and do three daily bike

995
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: tours of l A. Ones of thirty two mile one

996
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: that goes out to the back, that we do shorter

997
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: ones in Beverly Hills and Hollywood, and then we do

998
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: hikes to the front and back of the Hollywood Sign

999
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: And that's cool. Arc. Yeah, I might have to join

1000
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: you for the one to the Hollywood Sign. I've never

1001
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: all the years I've been here, thirty so many years,

1002
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: I've never done a hike to the Hollywood Sign. And

1003
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: it's something, Yeah, come on, all right, let's do it. Oh,

1004
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: we should all go. We should totally do that. That

1005
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: would be really cool. Does it ever come up in

1006
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: your life that you were a background actor on Boy

1007
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: Meat's World. Yeah, because I I have a lot of

1008
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: friends that watched it growing up in somes It'll come

1009
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: up in conversation. I'll tell them and they're like, what,

1010
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: what what? And now, So I live in West Hollywood

1011
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: and just that I'm sure people have heard in the

1012
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: news that Ben is running for a city council was Hollywood.

1013
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: I in my I've lived in we have for fifteen years.

1014
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: I've never once seen him out. I have run in

1015
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: Ben ten times in the past month. Ten That's so funny.

1016
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: Have you have you talk to him when you've seen

1017
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: him out of you The first time I saw him,

1018
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: it was right after I found out I was gonna

1019
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: be on with you guys, and so I just went

1020
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: up to I was like, Ben, Hi, I'm a resident here.

1021
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: We hope it also is on Boy Meets World. And

1022
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: we just had like a twenty minute conversation. That's amazing.

1023
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: So he knew you were a background actor. You didn't

1024
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: remember me, but now when he sees me, he recognizes

1025
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: me and like makes a point of staying hi. That's

1026
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: so cool. That's cool. Good. I'm happy to hear that. Well. Jason,

1027
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here with us. It

1028
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: was really fun to catch up with you. And I

1029
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: think we'll take you up on that offer to go

1030
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: on a hike to the Hollywood Sign because I have

1031
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: ever done it right. What was what was the name

1032
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: of the podcast One More Time A Lifetime of Hallmark.

1033
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: I checked that out perfect. Yes, well, thank you for

1034
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: being here with us. Yeah, alright, by I want to

1035
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: do I've wanted to do that Hollywood hike because it's

1036
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: just such an iconic thing going and actually seeing the

1037
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: Hollywood Sign, which you see it, you drive by, and

1038
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: you just get everybody gets at wherever they live. They

1039
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: get so complacent about where they live that they don't

1040
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: do the things that you're do. Yeah, and I show

1041
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: them the joy of of the town or city that

1042
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: they live in. So that nightmare, Like the roads up

1043
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: to the Hollywood Sign are like so congested, like the

1044
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 1: local residents hate it so much because and there's probably

1045
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: no place to park, and it's off exactly trying to

1046
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: make it hard. Yeah, because people live up there, you know.

1047
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: But I'm surprised you didn't. It's like that's how I

1048
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: knew I was at a rider house. It was like, well,

1049
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: I can't the streets are they're turning everywhere, and I

1050
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: can't actually park, so hey, I must be at the

1051
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: rider's house. It's just a scant thirteen miles from where

1052
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: I had to park my car. That's gonna be nice, man.

1053
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I like to be around trees.

1054
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: I like to be so that means being a little

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00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: off the beaten path. My place now is right off

1056
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: a big, big road. No, no no, no, your place now

1057
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: has decent parking. But the other ones, it was like,

1058
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: are you I'd have to call you and be like,

1059
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm acclimatizing for the night. I'll see you in the morning.

1060
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is I once my car got

1061
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: stuck hanging off a cliff outside of Writer right at night.

1062
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: That's right. We have a cold sitting on the curb,

1063
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: acting down and it was really curved. It was a terrible,

1064
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: terrible thing, and I can don't see, and it was dark,

1065
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: and I turned my wheel and I like went, literally

1066
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: my car was dangling off. That's right. I forgot. Did

1067
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: it rip off the front of your car? Too? And

1068
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: we know nothing, nothing like that happened. I just couldn't

1069
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: get the wheel back up onto the thing. So the

1070
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: tow truck just had to basically bring my car down.

1071
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: Just started driving tow trucks to Rider's house. It was

1072
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: just easier that way, say a lot safer. That was

1073
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: one of our boy Beats World dinners that we had.

1074
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: Remember we sent one of our boy Meats World dinners.

1075
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: It was really fun. Well, I'd love to introduce our

1076
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: next guests. Her name is Jessica Biboh. I hope I

1077
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: said that right, Jessica. Um. She was one of the

1078
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: background actors that Genie are very first guest. Jennie had

1079
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: friends that she would bring in as being other background actors,

1080
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: and Jessica was one of those people. Hi are you.

1081
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: Jessica was one of the background actor actors in the

1082
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: famous Danielle to Penga cutting her hair episode Hair Today,

1083
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 1: Gone Tomorrow. And so you're actually in the bathroom scene

1084
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: with me, right, yes? Yeah, it was my first time

1085
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: ever being on the show too. That was the first episode. Yes,

1086
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: and I remember they picked me, I think because I

1087
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: have obviously big hair. So yeah, so the lady picked

1088
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: me and I was like, oh my gosh, like I've

1089
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: never even been here before, I've done this. So I

1090
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: and my friend Genie was like, She's like, you got

1091
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: featureded whatever for three years and so what happened? So

1092
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: was it de de de Stefano who picked you out?

1093
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, she picked me In another UM extra

1094
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: I called Wendy okay, and it was the three of

1095
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: us and I made me and Wendy him and I.

1096
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: I think it was it was such a fun experience.

1097
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: I was so nervous the first day and it just

1098
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: it was just so much fun to be in that episode,

1099
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: especially because it was such a big hit. Yeah, and

1100
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: you're so featured in the in the bathroom at the

1101
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: sink right there, So, um, what do you really like

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00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: remember about that day? I remember I remember you actually, Um,

1103
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: I was so nervous for you because you had to

1104
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: cut your hair on camera and I was like, oh

1105
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: my gosh, this is like I was so nervous for

1106
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: you and like you had to get it in the

1107
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: So I really remember that. And I just remember thinking

1108
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: like being nervous for you, and and just I thought

1109
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: it was it was just so fun because it was

1110
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: really my first time on a set, and so the

1111
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: whole thing like it looked smaller than I thought it would.

1112
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: You know how everyone always it's totally true. It is true.

1113
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's just something about when you actually see

1114
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: the limits of the set, you're like, oh, well that's

1115
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: all it is. I'm like it's shorter, and like, I

1116
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: don't know, like there was there. I had like this

1117
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: perception of what it would be and then it was different,

1118
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: So I remember that. And then um, I also remember

1119
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: I got to get my makeup done, so that was

1120
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: super exciting. And because I was featured, I'm like, oh,

1121
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: I get to get my I did. I'm like, you

1122
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: don't bother with the hair. No one's gonna know how

1123
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: to do it, not my hair, but I did. So.

1124
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: The other actor that was featured with you, Wendy. Had

1125
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: you ever met her before? Did you know her at all?

1126
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: I didn't, but my my best friend Genie was friends

1127
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: with her. They worked together every week and so we

1128
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: connected immediately. We're still friends to this day because I

1129
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: think Jennie was talking about Wendy. Yeah, we're all still friends,

1130
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: and I, you know, I met her that one time.

1131
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: I live in Orange County too, so I don't see her,

1132
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: but um, we're still connected just because of that one

1133
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: day and we still like reminisce about it. He was

1134
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: like so excited to be chosen too. So are you

1135
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: are you a mission Viejo as well? I am, yeah,

1136
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 1: but you're also not a Diablo. You were a cougar exactly. Okay,

1137
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: how did you know that? Because we talked to We

1138
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: talked to Jeannie and my wife is a Diablo, so

1139
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: so my kids are going to be Diablos. Okay there

1140
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: you go, alright, and my my uncle and my mom

1141
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, but there's a lot of mission video

1142
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: history in this. There is why we were. My My

1143
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: wife lived off a spartan right right across from anton

1144
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: Across from Antonuci is Antonucci still there, like the greatest

1145
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: Italian restaurant. Yeah, it's totally that I used to go.

1146
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: They're growing up with my grandfather. I'm Italian, so that

1147
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: was like his spots. Yeah. Sorry, little little mission Viejo.

1148
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: So it's for my wife. Shout out to my wife.

1149
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Had you heard of

1150
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: boy Mets World or seen Boy's World before you came

1151
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: on the show. I had heard of it, um, you know,

1152
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: I was. I was older at the time, so I was.

1153
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I had seen it. I had seen

1154
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: it maybe on TV. But the funny thing is, because

1155
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: I was in college age. The day after the show

1156
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: aired and I went to school, everybody came up to me,

1157
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you, I saw you on TV. Oh

1158
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: my gosh, And I was like, oh wow, like so

1159
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: many college people, college age people were watching the show, boys, girls, everything.

1160
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, that's so cool. Yeah. I mean

1161
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: at first I knew about the show was such a

1162
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: big hid Do you ever tell people about it now?

1163
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: Do you have children? Do they know about your past

1164
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: as a background actor? My kids like think it's so

1165
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: fun because I showed him the picture of the three

1166
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: of us at the bathroom. Um, they think it's very cool.

1167
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: They know I'm doing this. They can't wait to hear

1168
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: about it. Um, And yeah. I still I have so

1169
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: many friends who are like, I can't believe that that

1170
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: was you. They knew the episode, They're like, so they

1171
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: think it's amazing that I was. I like, not, I

1172
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: was not the actor, but like they think it's like

1173
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: the coolest thing. So, yeah, it does. It still comes up.

1174
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: It's so funny. Now you remember being nervous for me?

1175
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: Do you remember? Did I seem nervous? I think you,

1176
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: If anything, you you were very focused and concentrated and

1177
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: maybe a little stressed. Yeah, I mean I don't know.

1178
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: That was my feeling. It was an incredibly stressful day.

1179
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: I remember it. I remember it set was on edge.

1180
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: We were all like, it was not a fun It's

1181
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: I have to say, like I do not have fond

1182
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: memories of it. I have like I get like not

1183
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: in my stomach when I think about that day on set. Yeah,

1184
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: I think people also thought you were gonna cut your hair. Sure,

1185
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna cut your hair shorter than you did.

1186
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: So when you actually cut it, I was like okay,

1187
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: Like it was like more of like a like a relaxed,

1188
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: relaxed moment for me, because I thought you were going

1189
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: to go like up, like bobbing it up. So seeing

1190
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: that you lifted it up and cut it, I was

1191
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: like okay. I was like that that. I was given

1192
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: very specific instructions about where I was allowed to cut,

1193
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: and you know, it was it was a very stressful day.

1194
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 1: And Michael came out and said, you know, okay, show

1195
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: me where, show me where, and I was like like

1196
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: right here, and he was like lower and I was

1197
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: like no, because I wanted to go a little shorter.

1198
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: And Michael really had a off that he he really

1199
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: wanted me to do it. Um. Now I have a question.

1200
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: Has anybody asked you because you're holding the scissors at

1201
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you get to decide where

1202
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: the cut happens. Did you ever think even for a

1203
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: moment about cutting it in a different spot than people

1204
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: told you to. Well, not really, mostly because I didn't

1205
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: want to screw anything up for the one take we

1206
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: have on camera. And it was like things were very set,

1207
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, we had we only had a certain amount

1208
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: of time we had we could rehearse it and and

1209
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: then you get the one take with the scissors. But

1210
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: it also was a little like the way she cut it,

1211
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: she meaning me, the way I cut my hair. I

1212
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: just swung my hair around and then grabbed it and

1213
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: cut it. Wasn't like so I knew there was a

1214
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: margin of error that was kind of out of my control.

1215
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: But I definitely didn't want to do anything that was

1216
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: going to make anybody mad at me. And I also

1217
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 1: knew that I needed to cut it in a place

1218
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: where there was still room for then when I got

1219
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: a real haircut where that could still it was still

1220
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: going to get shorter from that wherever I cut it,

1221
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: because I was going to cut a blunt cut and

1222
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: then you know, LORI was gonna put layer in it

1223
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I knew it was going to end

1224
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: up being a little shorter than wherever I cut it.

1225
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: So I also didn't want my hair to be too short.

1226
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a really stressful. Remember the rehearsing

1227
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: and blocking of that scene where then Jeff McCracken would

1228
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: yell before we got to it because they wanted to

1229
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: make sure we got the scene all the way up

1230
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: until the point of the cut perfectly. And yeah, I

1231
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: remember being like, you can say stop in a normal voice,

1232
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not because Jeff as an actor, Jeff took on.

1233
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember watching his face when he faces of

1234
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: the emotions of the actor on the scene he was

1235
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: on the set with, which made him totally find myself

1236
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: doing that. Do you do that, Danielle and you're watching

1237
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: the monitor. I totally do it too. I'm constant. I'm

1238
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm as exaggerated as Jeff, but I'm

1239
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: definitely like putting myself through whatever the act is doing.

1240
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: When I'm directing, it's so yeah, yeah, that's what makes

1241
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: I also do it, even with hair in the face.

1242
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: Like I was watching you know, I just directed a movie.

1243
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: I was telling you about it and I'm camera. There

1244
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: was a piece of hair in one of the actor's

1245
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: face and I was like, I was like, and it

1246
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: was like Okay, that's not gonna work. Yeah, so I

1247
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: think we we all got that from from Jeff. Jeff,

1248
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: are you still in the business. So I did like

1249
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: a couple more things after your show, um, like you know,

1250
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: very little things, and then I ended up going into

1251
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: the skincare business. So I became an esthetician. I have

1252
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: my own skincare line now called Skincare, and that's what

1253
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: I've been doing literally since, like I was twunny, simply,

1254
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: what's your website skin care? Yeah? Do you a website? Yeah,

1255
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: it's it's just simply just skincare dot com. It's all natural.

1256
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: It's out of Orange County, so it's doing really well.

1257
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing. I should send you something, yes, please, yes,

1258
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: we we will all take it. Awesome, you guys, it's amazing.

1259
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: It works really well. I need it because we were

1260
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: talking about how I washed my entire body with head

1261
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: and shoulders? Was that in this episode? I can't remember

1262
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: at this so I need some sort of skincare regime

1263
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: because the one apparently isn't good. It's simple, like, it's great,

1264
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: it's okay, perfect. I don't have dandriff on my face?

1265
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: Do I write her? Do I? I don't know. Well,

1266
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: Jessica was really nice to reconnect with you. Thank you

1267
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: for being here with us. I'm I'm so glad you're

1268
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: in that iconic scene and set with me. We have

1269
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: this adorable picture of the three of us that I'll

1270
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: put on and put on the Instagram and thank you

1271
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: for being here with us. I love it. It It was

1272
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: so good talking to you guys. Thank you for having

1273
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: me as well. Thanks for joining us. It's so fun.

1274
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: She's so sweet, so sweet, and so many background actors

1275
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: from Orange County, Orange County, which makes perfect sense. I

1276
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: guess for people who aren't out here, that's that can

1277
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: be a hike. I mean, I'm from Orange County. Yeah,

1278
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: it's it's at the very I mean, with great traffic,

1279
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: it's still at least an hour. Oh yeah, I mean

1280
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: now with with traffic. Without traffic, it's an hour and

1281
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, and with traffic you're looking at two hours plus.

1282
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 1: It makes the question why not kids in Los Angeles?

1283
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: Like why didn't why didn't teenagers in Los Angeles become

1284
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: background Maybe because they kind of grew up around the

1285
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: industry and it just took about it. And yeah, and

1286
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: whereas like in the Orange County. You'd be like, Oh,

1287
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: it's right over there, and I can get these jobs.

1288
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Maybe I don't know, but it is. That's

1289
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: and then they all seem the other thing that's very

1290
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: interesting so far. And we didn't ask Jessica, Well, she

1291
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of tell this this, but it doesn't seem like

1292
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: you kind of were on the circuit where it's you

1293
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: did nine O two and no, you did Step by Step,

1294
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: you did, you did, It's like you had you did

1295
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 1: Party of Five. There are certain shows that you did

1296
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: everywhere interesting. Well, our next guest is a woman named

1297
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: Melody Morrero, and she was a background actor in seasons

1298
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: two and three, but then she was featured in season two,

1299
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: episode twelve called Turnaround, and she was given a name Jacqueline.

1300
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to hear about how that happened

1301
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: and who Jack Glenn was. Hi, Oh my gosh, it

1302
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: is so cool to see you guys. It's been almost

1303
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: thirty years. Yeah, we're just it's been eight years. That's amazing.

1304
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: A few years. It's so good to see you. So,

1305
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: you were a background actor in seasons two and three,

1306
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: but then you were featured as Jacqueline in an episode

1307
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: so how did that come about? I was, Oh, my gosh,

1308
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: I was so over the moon that day. They said, okay,

1309
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: we've seen you around, said a lot. You were the

1310
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: Um I was the waitress at Chubbies a few times,

1311
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: and um, I don't know, it's just happenstance. I was

1312
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: just trying not to stick out too much. But when

1313
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: one of the producers came up, I think I forget

1314
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: her name. The one of the assistant producers said we

1315
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: have a spot for you. Just come come with us now,

1316
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: and so I was like, okay, whatever you, whatever you say,

1317
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: and then had me walk with with Eric. So, oh, really,

1318
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: wasn't the two of us together? Is that why I'm

1319
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: looking at the picture I have. I have a phone

1320
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: know of us together. It's so great. So where we dad?

1321
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 1: Where we were Eric and Jacqueline dating at the time?

1322
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah, we were totally a thing. Did you

1323
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: write a whole backstory? Is there a history there, scripted

1324
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: idea about us dating or the Yeah, they didn't exactly

1325
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: go with that, but yeah, I just come around the

1326
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: corner of the lockers and Eric, you you walk up

1327
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: and say, hey, Jacqueline, I was just headed that way

1328
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: or something. Along those lines, and I was so geeked out.

1329
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. Man, that's so cool. I'm surprised.

1330
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: That must have been the episode that they had Eric

1331
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: Girl Crazy that one episode. Yeah, no, I'm kidding. That

1332
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: was Eric's thing was so it was so great that

1333
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: we got a chance to do that. That's very cool.

1334
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 1: How did you become a background actor? UM? In college,

1335
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: one of my friends was telling me about she was

1336
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: going to a movie set the next day and I said,

1337
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: what are you What are you doing? And she said, oh,

1338
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm an extra. And I was like, okay, no

1339
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: idea what that means. And she told me about what

1340
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: she was doing. And it was Central Casting at the time,

1341
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: and I was a young mom in college and I

1342
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: had a mouth to feed, and I'm like, this will

1343
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: be a cool way to make a little bit of

1344
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: extra cash. So I did it, and UM did a

1345
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: number of things, but we we Strolled happened to be

1346
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: absolutely my favorite, obviously, But I did it for two years,

1347
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: two and a half, yeah, three seasons almost, and I

1348
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: did an episode of Friends and Er and a lot

1349
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: of things. But yeah, first it was just a way

1350
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: to make some cash. And then I thought maybe I'll

1351
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 1: get bit by the acting bug, and that didn't exactly

1352
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: plan pan out that way, but yeah, that's how I

1353
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: kind of stumbled upon this. So do you still work

1354
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry? What do you do now? No,

1355
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm in human resources. Yeah, yeah, I went from background

1356
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: acting to human resources. So yeah, I'm in a stark

1357
01:10:53,960 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: person for what company? For Toyota? Oh nice? Yeah, that's cool.

1358
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: It's a great gig. I'm about to celebrate twenty three

1359
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: years with Toyota. So but pretty much my my very

1360
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: last extra gig was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I was

1361
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: hired by Toyota the next week, so I was like, cool,

1362
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: I guess I have a career. The acting thing is

1363
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: just not gonna help from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to

1364
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: the career you're going to do for the rest of

1365
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: your life. That's kind of cool. That's kind of cool. Yeah,

1366
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: people like, what was your last job? I was like,

1367
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: a vampire slayer? What did you do? I'm looking at

1368
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: a picture you sent us of me and you and

1369
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: another one of our background actors and script am I doing?

1370
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: What earth is this pose? It's you're the only one

1371
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: who didn't realize that you weren't in a chorus line

1372
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 1: at the time. I daniel I don't know, but it

1373
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 1: was adorable and I loved it, and clearly I've treasured

1374
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: it for years. So I'm so glad you guys are

1375
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: in like matching Denham too. Yes, I complete recognize you,

1376
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: by the way, I totally recognize you. You do not,

1377
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: I swear to God. From the second I saw the picture,

1378
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: I completely recognize you because you did multiple episodes, and

1379
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 1: again we were around the same age, so we were

1380
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: always kind of together. You were in It wasn't like

1381
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: you were in the classroom scenes as a kid. Um

1382
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: we were. It was always kind of around Eric. So yeah,

1383
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: I recognized you from the second I saw the phone.

1384
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Oh that just warms my heart. I

1385
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if you guys would remember, but yeah, I'm

1386
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: looking at the picture. I'm like, oh, yeah, I totally

1387
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: remember you and being in the hallways with you with

1388
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: the lockers and all that stuff. Yeah, that picture. I

1389
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: think They made me change my shirt though, right after

1390
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, you both can't work down. So see

1391
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: they're like, Danielle's wearing denim, take it off. That's pretty

1392
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: much what would happen. I mean, I'll walk in with

1393
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: certain outfits and they'd be like, yeah, honey, that's not

1394
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: gonna work. So that's so. Were you in Los Angeles

1395
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: at the time we were you were doing the show? Yeah, yes,

1396
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: I lived near Pasadena, so just a quick quick ride

1397
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: on the four or five every day. Yeah, it was local.

1398
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to ask you, but I have a

1399
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: feeling your favorite scene was probably when you were featured

1400
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 1: as Jacqueline with Will. But do you have any like

1401
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: other real specific memory of something that just really stands

1402
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: out from your time on Boy Meats World? I do

1403
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: that is definitely my favorite, but they're just a flashback

1404
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: to the fifties. You were in that episode two. I

1405
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: was in that one. I had a poodle skirt, the

1406
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: pony tails scarf um and we were at Chubby's in

1407
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: the scene that I was in. So that was one

1408
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 1: of my other favorites. Was just because I got to

1409
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: go through full like hair and makeup and wardrobe and stuff.

1410
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, that wasn't really that was a fun costume. Yeah,

1411
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: so they provide did they provide the costume for you

1412
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: that time? You didn't have to bring your own. That's

1413
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah, it was cool. I was looking for

1414
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: it and I forgot the title of the episode, but yeah,

1415
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: that was a good one. Oh man, I can't wait

1416
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: till we get to those. I don't know. We did

1417
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: so many of the flashbacks to different times, but one

1418
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: was the was the was that the toaster one? I

1419
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 1: think there was the forties? I don't remember. We can't

1420
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: remember we did the forties? The forties? Was the cat

1421
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: that took us from the cat from Sabrina took us

1422
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: back in time from forties episode? I think it was

1423
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: the toaster. There's something that the coaster back to the fifties.

1424
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: That's when we're like most of the cast of Happy

1425
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: Days was on the episode. Right, I'm like, Shanza Belli

1426
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. We're going to get a lot of I'll

1427
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: get a lot of emails telling us exactly how could happen?

1428
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: We should stop talking about it now. Yeah, that's so funny. Well, Melody,

1429
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: we thank you so much for being here with us,

1430
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: and thank you for being a part of Boy Meets

1431
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: World with us all that twenty plus years ago. A

1432
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: lot to us. Oh, thank you so much for including me.

1433
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: This was so much fun. I was so stoked when

1434
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 1: I got the email, so it's just so great to

1435
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: see you all again. It was so great to see

1436
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: you to is there is there anywhere if if people

1437
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: want to want to find you, could you Are you

1438
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 1: on social media or anything? Yeah? Yeah, Melody m M

1439
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: one three is my handle. I'm pretty sure I don't

1440
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: message myself a lot, so I forget. It's so funny.

1441
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Was great to see you, man.

1442
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: Everybody is so nice. I totally remember, especially when I

1443
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: saw the picture, Like at first I was kind of

1444
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: and then I completely remember because again, we had the

1445
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: extras were kind of extras. I don't like that connotation.

1446
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: The background actors were were carpet like compartmentalized. So it's

1447
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: you all had your kind of classroom extras, I said

1448
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: it again, which I was never really a part of. So,

1449
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, like I got to meet Dusty and everybody else.

1450
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: But then as we grew up and Eric was more

1451
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: involved with other people around as opposed to just being

1452
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: in the school, there was a group of background actors

1453
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 1: where I was with a lot and Justin and Melody.

1454
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: These are all the kind of the same people that

1455
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: were around there, which is really neat, so I sort

1456
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: of buried this lead, but it actually didn't occur to

1457
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: me until we were already recording this episode. UM, but

1458
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: my one of my best friends, UM, one of my

1459
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: closest friends. He's coming over to my house for dinner tonight.

1460
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: He was going to bring this up. He was in

1461
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: my wedding party. I actually he was one of my

1462
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: group's been at my wedding. His name is Chris Levittis

1463
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: and he's a director from a writer director, and I

1464
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: met him because I was I acted in a movie

1465
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: that he directed in my twenties and that's when we

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Speaker 1: became friends. But he was an extra on Boy Leats World,

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Speaker 1: one of his first jobs as a kid, and it

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Speaker 1: was when he was under age, I think because he

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Speaker 1: was a kid actor, so he remember seeing his But I,

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Speaker 1: you know, I talked him about it because I remember

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Speaker 1: when we first talked about doing this episode. I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you should come on. He actually doesn't have many memories.

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Speaker 1: I think he only did one or two episodes, but

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Speaker 1: it was one of the first things he said to

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Speaker 1: me when we started working either He's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we I was actually on your show back of this.

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Speaker 1: So I've always been curious if I can see him

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Speaker 1: in an episode, so as we do, our are it

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Speaker 1: would probably be the second or third season, so I

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Speaker 1: have to keep an eye out for him somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the background of one of our episodes. Another one of

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Speaker 1: our background actors was cal penn Real Yes really yes,

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Speaker 1: in what he was in like a sports scene. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's get him on our let's um, do you think

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Speaker 1: the chances so, so we're watching a lot of alone

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Speaker 1: right now, do you think the chances are that Dusty

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Speaker 1: maybe lives a life off the grid, which is why

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Speaker 1: he knows nothing about the podcast communing with the Bears? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like maybe we just Dusty has no idea because he's

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Speaker 1: like skinning something right now, or you know, making a

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Speaker 1: fire with sticks or pete. I don't know. I'm still

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Speaker 1: I'm still determined. I'm still determined her Dusty for Dusty.

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Speaker 1: So well, this was really a great way to wrap

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Speaker 1: up our twenty three and Me episode. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much to twenty three and Me for helping us get

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Speaker 1: to know our backgrounds both personally and from from boy

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Speaker 1: Meat's world. It was really a really smart way of

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Speaker 1: bringing this all together. And like I said, I am

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Speaker 1: really excited now that I have a couple of wellness

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Speaker 1: and health. Uh you know, some information about myself, but

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Speaker 1: now I can take to my doctor and can hopefully

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Speaker 1: change the decisions I make for my future knowing a

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Speaker 1: few things. And so I encourage you to take the

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Speaker 1: twenty three and me test as well and get to

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Speaker 1: more about your health and how you can help take

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Speaker 1: care of yourself to prevent issues from coming up in

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Speaker 1: the future. I also always figured I was a superhero,

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Speaker 1: but to actually be told I am, it really changed

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Speaker 1: the whole ball game for me. It really did. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's pretty great to get that confirmation finally. So

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Speaker 1: you can get your superhero confirmation at twenty three in

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Speaker 1: doing our exit like I was gonna say my name again,

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Speaker 1: like thank you for joining us. I'm Daniel. You just

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Speaker 1: listen to a whole episode with me like you don't are.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us on Instagram at pod Meats World Show,

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Speaker 1: Meats World Show at gmail dot com, and as always,

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