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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 2: To get into Real Housewives of Belly Hills. It is

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Speaker 2: the first time we're talking about this show, but I

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Speaker 2: wanted to bring this clip to you guys. So rain Drops,

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Speaker 2: if you're watching Billy Hills Housewives, you know there's a

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Speaker 2: new cast member named Bows and Bows is going through

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Speaker 2: her fertility journey. She sat down with her fiance and

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Speaker 2: her daughter, who's like sixteen years old. She talks to

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Speaker 2: him about the fact that listen similar to Quad's journey,

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Speaker 2: the eggs unfortunately didn't take and she's contemplating starting go

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Speaker 2: over again. But one thing she said was her fear

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Speaker 2: of not giving her fiance a child because he does

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Speaker 2: want one, he doesn't have any, and she was worried

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Speaker 2: that will that would that lead resentment that you have

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Speaker 2: for me, the fact that I was unable to produce

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Speaker 2: a child.

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Speaker 3: And then after that he.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned, well how would you feel if I no longer

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Speaker 2: had any income?

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Speaker 3: So I want to start with Claudia with this one.

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, do you think a lot of women

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Speaker 2: are going through IVF because their man wants a child?

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Speaker 2: And do you think it's fair that she's putting her

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Speaker 2: body through all of this. She already has a kid,

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Speaker 2: but she's doing it in fear of losing her man.

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Speaker 4: I think Bose as successful and independent as she is.

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Speaker 4: I don't think she's like a weak ass, pussy ass

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Speaker 4: woman that would just do it just because of him.

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Speaker 4: I think she has it in her. I don't think

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Speaker 4: she would be talked into doing it. I don't think

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Speaker 4: she'd be guilty into doing it. She strikes me as

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Speaker 4: someone that's like, maybe it wasn't top of mind, but

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Speaker 4: best believe I wouldn't do this if I didn't want

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Speaker 4: to do it as well as well, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: So I don't feel that she's like, you know, woe

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Speaker 4: is me, or it's like she's like just doing it for.

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Speaker 5: Him, but I think that's actually a noble thing.

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Speaker 4: To do something that maybe wasn't you know, you've already

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Speaker 4: done and you want to do it for your partner

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Speaker 4: so he can experience that same thing too.

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Speaker 5: I think that's a beautiful thing. Shout out to her

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Speaker 5: for doing that.

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Speaker 4: But I also think that she may be underestimating herself

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Speaker 4: and her worth.

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Speaker 5: Like I think he'll be fine to be with her.

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Speaker 4: And you know, he knew he was getting with an

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Speaker 4: older woman, right and that's a possibility, and chose to

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Speaker 4: love her anyways. I think he I think he loves

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Speaker 4: her dirty draws and vice versa. And I think ideally

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Speaker 4: they love to have a child. But I think that

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Speaker 4: they are a couple that if they didn't, I think

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Speaker 4: they will stand. I've seen them recently and the way her,

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Speaker 4: the way she looks at him, Yeah, at the luncheon

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Speaker 4: for the NAACP Awards, I mean for the the luncheon,

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Speaker 4: and they just their vibe is just like you know,

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Speaker 4: you meet a couple like I like them.

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Speaker 5: I feel that I love that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think she's like trying to she's desperate to

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Speaker 4: like hang on to him or I have to do this.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna love him.

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Speaker 4: I don'teel like she's doing it out of like like nervous,

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Speaker 4: like a scarcity, like I'm gonna lose this man if

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Speaker 4: I don't do it.

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Speaker 3: I don't Dustin Ross.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know me.

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Speaker 7: I'm all about a great scene, you know, black love

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Speaker 7: being shown on the screen and what that represents. I

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Speaker 7: love the way that they were openly communicating about some

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Speaker 7: tough shit to talk about. She expressed one of her

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Speaker 7: worst fears, which was him resenting her or blaming her

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Speaker 7: for them not having success with their fertility journey. He

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Speaker 7: revealed one of his worst fears, what if I fall off?

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Speaker 7: Would you still love me? You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: Like fifty said, So, I think that that was great communication.

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Speaker 7: I love the fact that he led with clarity, right

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Speaker 7: he said, Well, first of all, I still.

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Speaker 6: Want to marry you. I love you.

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Speaker 7: I want to be with you, kid or not, I

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Speaker 7: still want He looked at her beautiful daughter, Layelle, and

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Speaker 7: he said, I still want to call you step daughter

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Speaker 7: or daughter at some point. It was just a very

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Speaker 7: genuine conversation where each participant's intentions were made clear up front,

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Speaker 7: and that's the kind of shit that works for me,

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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. We could talk about anything,

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Speaker 7: and we lay the groundwork and then we know where

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Speaker 7: we're coming from.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk through it.

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Speaker 7: I think that they definitely are in love, and her

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Speaker 7: and her man look good together. He holds her down

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Speaker 7: and allows her to shine as bright as she can

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Speaker 7: because she's such a magnetic, powerful woman with a beautiful

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Speaker 7: life that she's built through her work. It's a lot

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Speaker 7: of layers here what I'm saying, so miss me, because

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Speaker 7: I've seen a lot of the conversation about what he

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Speaker 7: said are offering up that scenario, that worst case scenario

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Speaker 7: about his income faltering.

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Speaker 6: That was him being vulnerable and honest.

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Speaker 7: There was not no red fucking flag or none of

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Speaker 7: that other bullshit I saw people saying when they can't

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Speaker 7: just appreciate a motherfucker having an adult conversation about important

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Speaker 7: things that they need to talk about right with his

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Speaker 7: beautiful black woman on television. And look right here, I

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Speaker 7: don't trust him probably single. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 7: I don't say missus m aj spe Wow.

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Speaker 3: So I just.

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Speaker 7: Feel like, you know what I'm saying, Like I thought

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Speaker 7: it was a great scene. I think him and Bo's

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Speaker 7: gonna be all right. I love the way that they

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Speaker 7: were communicating with each other.

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Speaker 5: And look it worked out for Tammy Rowman and her Man,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like that's another example, Like

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Speaker 5: she felt that pressure and when she let it go,

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Speaker 5: they seem they seem very fine. I loved properly. I

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Speaker 5: love that.

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Speaker 3: How do I follow that? Watching you? Well, No, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna do her proud.

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Speaker 6: First of all, Damn, I love you.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to keep my face straight. I'm very

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Speaker 8: Yes, I figured with everything I've heard thus far, and

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Speaker 8: I think there's two things. Number One, the thing that

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Speaker 8: people are misidentifying as a red flag I think is

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Speaker 8: them missing context.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 8: Let's say doesn't want to do a comedy show and

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Speaker 8: he was dating somebody amazing, and he was like, hey,

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Speaker 8: If it doesn't, I still have a million other things going.

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Speaker 3: And then he's having a moment with.

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Speaker 8: His partner and his partner's being like her, and then

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Speaker 8: he says, well, if my comedy show didn't work out,

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Speaker 3: And she's like, of course I would it.

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Speaker 8: He's like exactly, I'm doing something that I care about,

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Speaker 8: but even if it doesn't work out, I know that

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Speaker 8: we're bigger than this thing, right, So I think they

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Speaker 8: missed the context that he was probably referencing that I

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Speaker 8: already know that you care about me regardless of money,

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Speaker 8: the same way I need you to remember I care

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Speaker 8: about your regardless of fertility. So I think people are

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Speaker 8: like missing the context of the comment because it felt

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Speaker 8: like an ongoing conversation between a couple where he already

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Speaker 8: knew her answer was no, and was using as an

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Speaker 8: analogy to make her realize, this means as little to

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Speaker 8: me as as money means to you, because we love

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Speaker 8: each other that much.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: Secondly, I think there's also some healing in the baby

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Speaker 8: journey because she lost a child and then had a

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Speaker 8: not know what it's like to have a father in

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Speaker 8: her child's life who's even available, and so I think

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Speaker 8: it's one of those things. And I think being Claudia

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Speaker 8: you don't want false hope and you're open for beautiful surprises,

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Speaker 8: and so she probably thought, Okay, this season of my

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Speaker 8: life is over, and then meeting him reintroduced the possibility

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Speaker 8: and gave her a chance to hope logically again. And

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to go back to resigning myself to

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Speaker 8: maybe this season really is over. And so if you

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Speaker 8: lost a child and have the opportunity to have another

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Speaker 8: child with a man that you love in your second

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Speaker 8: chapter of life, of course you're going to be excited

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Speaker 8: that you could ever be excited. And then to realize, oh,

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Speaker 8: the eggs are not going to work out. There's a

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Speaker 8: don't think it's just about her being weak or not.

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Speaker 8: I think she's mourning again something that she had already

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Speaker 8: probably told her stuff to never having, And as a woman,

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Speaker 8: there's a complicated vulnerability in that that her being able

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Speaker 3: I actually think it was the opposite of a red flag.

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Speaker 3: It was a green flag. To me, I agree with

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Speaker 3: all three of you. I thought it was a green flag.

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Speaker 2: Because of this, I think you're looking at two people

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Speaker 2: over forty, right, and when you're dating over forty you

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Speaker 2: have to have tough conversations. Everybody knows my journey of dating. Hey, Dustin,

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Speaker 2: where you have because me, it doesn't talk where. I'm

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Speaker 2: really big on having the tough conversations date one because

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Speaker 2: I just I don't have time to waste. I think,

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Speaker 2: and I think when you're when you're over a particular age,

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Speaker 3: Not just wasting time.

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Speaker 2: And I tell everybody like, look, this ain't no shade,

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Speaker 2: This ain't no no no be. If we're not aligned

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Speaker 2: on the same path where we're going, then let's not

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Speaker 2: waste each other's time.

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Speaker 3: So I thought it was two people saying, look, are

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it now so that I can move

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Speaker 2: on from this and so the pain won't hurt as much.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like he understands too. In this business

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Speaker 2: of entertainment, me and Claudia talked about this too.

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Speaker 3: This industry is broke, okay. The money that was here

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Speaker 3: ten years ago has been and.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of people are getting laid off.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just this industry, it's it is just

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Speaker 2: the world we live in. The it's just the reality

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Speaker 2: of where we are. So I thought, as a man,

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Speaker 2: He's like, if I do lose my job, where does that?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean for us?

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Speaker 2: Because when it comes to a man, a man's identity

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Speaker 2: oftentime lies in his profession.

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Speaker 5: Sure does.

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Speaker 4: I had a relationship go left because of a job

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Speaker 4: wanted to marry him, and we talk about getting married.

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Speaker 5: And it just it's both people and it being miserable.

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Speaker 4: It was horrible to watch it because I knew it

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Speaker 5: Got out of it. But it was after I couldn't

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Speaker 4: Which is too it was too exact feet yeah now yep,

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Speaker 3: But it was that period to where yeah, and that's

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Speaker 6: I did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm Augury. I think I think bows and.

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Speaker 2: So up next, the Real Housewives of Atlanta Season seventeen

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Speaker 2: Of Dustin and Blue and even myself, rain drops, let

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Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta Season subventeen trailer. Claudia, you were at

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Speaker 6: Thank you, good friend, thank you all of you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Gorgeous black designer, black designer, Sir Algernon, black designer, that

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Speaker 5: I had one fitting and fit perfectly.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Erica is beautiful too.

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Speaker 5: That blue on her skin just Wallace just gorgeous. But

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Speaker 2: You made a comment about the Real Housewives of Atlanta trailer.

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Speaker 3: Still some drama, but less attack.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's saying it, but I'm bold enough to say this

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Speaker 4: and every time, can we just put this one narrative

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Speaker 5: Can I can I talk about it a lot of housewives?

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Speaker 5: Because I want to be on there so badly? Please stop?

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Speaker 4: I'm asked the question, as well as a lot of

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Speaker 5: The business or even around these people.

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Speaker 4: At least I have a year in there, right, so

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Speaker 4: the comments, neighborhood talk, this shade room, boss up, ball

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Speaker 5: So can we just get that out the way.

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Speaker 4: We're all equal, we can all speak on the things

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Speaker 4: it looked a little bit different this year, but I wasn't.

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Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily mad at it. I actually think the

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Speaker 5: I really am now and I didn't know much about her.

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Speaker 4: Like, yes, it gave love and hip hop, and then

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Speaker 5: Yes the fuck I am. You know why because we're

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Speaker 4: Okay, so until I get my Dallas show in New York,

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Speaker 5: I will be on Zeus, I will be on v

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Speaker 5: H one. All that ship. There is an instagram, y'all

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Speaker 4: I will do low end t B movies, medium and

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Speaker 5: And did I'll do all that Sam high.

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Speaker 4: I pay all my bills. My mortgage is ridiculous. My

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Speaker 2: So yes, y'all.

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Speaker 4: My house is beautiful and it's being remodeled. I still

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Speaker 3: So guess what I will be not too many, not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I will be with the Love and Hip Hop.

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Speaker 4: And Drew called me and said, I want you to

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Speaker 5: I will be there.

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Speaker 4: I will be the Tie of the I'll be the

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Speaker 5: Okay, but I have a contract. Oh you said it, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I said, listen, when have I not? Okay?

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Speaker 4: So I need Jesus, Okay, Okay. So what I said was, yes,

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 5: It looks different.

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Speaker 4: The tone is different. It's more aggressive. It's more like,

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not actually mad at it looks like

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Speaker 5: Six or seven? Which one do you want?

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Speaker 3: Lord?

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Speaker 5: What do y'all want?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I like the bougie style of housewives show,

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Speaker 4: I think it looks like it's gonna be interesting. So,

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Speaker 3: I don't really know.

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Speaker 5: What do y'all want from me? I'm always wrong to

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Speaker 4: I'm always wrong when I say the same things y'all

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Speaker 4: I did one season. I can't speak on it.

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Speaker 5: Fuck y'all. How about that.

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Speaker 3: Tonight?

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Speaker 5: Yes, my iron is coming back.

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Speaker 3: I think I see your friend it is it is

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Speaker 3: the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back in

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Speaker 2: I respectfully disagree with you, right, and that that's the

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: I did not get love and hip Hop when I

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Speaker 3: In terms of the tone you felt. I felt like

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Speaker 2: I thought, listen, trailers nowadays are just a snapshot, but

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Speaker 2: It really isn't trailers. Back in my day, trailers were

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Speaker 3: Because I did think people say they were underwhelmed by it, right.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I saw was listen, this is a

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Speaker 2: Michelle's on It, Pinkies on It, and I thought, for me,

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Speaker 2: to Blue and Dustin, I do want you to address

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Speaker 4: Why are we playing dumb here and trying to find

444
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: some coded insult in there that I am. I'm it's like,

445
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 4: it's more than it is, Like, please stop with that nonsense.

446
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 4: She was a standout on Love and Hip Hop. She

447
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 4: was hilarious.

448
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 5: She and I'm talking.

449
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 4: Speaking of someone who was very good friends to meet

450
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 4: me who they got into it. I can still be objective.

451
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 5: She was hilarious on that show and she gave good

452
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 5: TV shaking the table. We love that. What is wrong

453
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 5: with that? And then you know, I mean I'm not.

454
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 5: It's not a dig to me. I mean, why can't

455
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Speaker 5: people see it?

456
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 4: Like I'm actually on Love and hip Hop and I

457
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,479
Speaker 4: went from house I went the other way, right from

458
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 4: housewives to Love and hip Hop. There's a lot of

459
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 4: cross promotions a lot of these shows. We talked about,

460
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 4: some of these other shows with the controversy that was

461
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 4: around Married to Medicine and some of these other shows

462
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 4: people talking about like the crossing of shows and all that,

463
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 4: and casts going from one show to the next. It's

464
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 4: just kind of a different time now where it's like

465
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Speaker 4: not as looked down upon it, and I'm not even

466
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 4: mad at it.

467
00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 5: I'm not.

468
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 4: It's and it's established a person in reality that we

469
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: know that they're gonna bring it. It's not like trying

470
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 4: an unknown where we don't know how it's gonna go.

471
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at it, and it's not like I'm

472
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Speaker 4: I don't think ky Michelle is bringing the franchise down

473
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 4: at all. I think she's actually gonna be hilarious. And

474
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Speaker 4: now that I see how it all works, at first,

475
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 4: I go live like, how's it gonna be? When I

476
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: saw the trailer, it look very entertaining. I mean some

477
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 4: people can say overwhelming, but like again, we all have

478
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 4: different opinions. I'm not trashing the lady for being on

479
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 4: the show. I'm not even saying she's bringing it down.

480
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 4: But they want me to say that. They want it

481
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Speaker 4: to be a negative. And people have been trying to

482
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Speaker 4: use Kma.

483
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Speaker 5: Schelle for that thing.

484
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Speaker 4: Like you say anything about it, it's like you're It's like,

485
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Speaker 4: I'm not doing that to a black woman.

486
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that to her.

487
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Speaker 4: So y'all can come up with whatever narratives y'all want

488
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Speaker 4: in the comments. As a NAACP nominee, for now, I'm

489
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Speaker 4: not addressing it anymore.

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Speaker 3: Blue, Well, thank you, Claude. I want to make sure

491
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Speaker 3: you're addressed that. Thank you, Thank you, Blue. What are

492
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Speaker 3: your thoughts?

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Speaker 8: First question, Claudia, which one is six and which one

494
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Speaker 8: is seven?

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Speaker 3: It's been bothering me since.

496
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Speaker 4: We think is the old one Because I was dating

497
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Speaker 4: a guy that was trying to be a rapper, a

498
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 4: struggle rapper, and he called himself the six million dollar man.

499
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Speaker 5: He want to have a baby with me.

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Speaker 4: I said, we just start with the cat first, and

501
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 4: the first ego. I was like, I'm named the cat

502
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Speaker 4: after you.

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00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 5: That's your son the orange blue.

504
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm mex to color.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

506
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, so which color is?

507
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Speaker 2: Little?

508
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Speaker 5: One is seven?

509
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 4: Because seven is my favorite number because I play craps

510
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 4: and the okay, the Lord seven days to make you

511
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Speaker 4: know the world and you know I'm a Christians.

512
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Speaker 3: Seven is the gray one and six is the orange one.

513
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Speaker 5: I love Dustin sit up here.

514
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Speaker 3: Translating for me.

515
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 6: I speak Claudia fluently, So I wanted.

516
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Speaker 3: To know thank you high seven. It's so funny.

517
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Speaker 8: I think I don't know if the trailer gives Love

518
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 8: and Hip Hop. I do feel like the exchange between

519
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 8: King Michelle.

520
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: And Rusl Door definitely does.

521
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 8: So it's almost like Drew I always thought would be

522
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 8: great on a show like Love and Hip Hop because

523
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 8: she comes ready to play.

524
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 3: And then the women sometimes get a little bit you know,

525
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: holier than.

526
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 8: Now with her, and so it feels like she wants

527
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 8: somebody to have a fun little key key with and

528
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 8: she can take it, you know what I mean.

529
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: She's actually really good at taking it.

530
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Speaker 8: They're constantly swiping at her, and unlike the Ashley Darby's

531
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Speaker 8: of the world, I don't think she's.

532
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Speaker 3: A one trick poner. She got a new trick every season.

533
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Speaker 8: I love it, right, So I think the Drew and

534
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 8: Ky Michelle of it all might be reminiscent of love

535
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 8: and hip hop. But what I saw was something that

536
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 8: Claudia mentioned is it does feel like they're leaning towards

537
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 8: a younger demographic, like they're refreshing it because the original

538
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 8: og Atlanta Housewife fans are like in their fifties now right,

539
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 8: like the fandom has actually aged, but they feel it

540
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 8: feels like they're reaching back to get more of the

541
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Speaker 8: younger demographic, and that might be what people are responding to.

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Speaker 3: Even the colors, I was like, this feels very brats dall.

543
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 5: Everything was very white and it looks different.

544
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like in Nickelodeon. Later I was like,

545
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: what's happened? It's very alive blues.

546
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 8: Clues, Gracie's corner, so Clinton them colors don't say perimenopause.

547
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 8: I know perimenopausal colors. It's not pink, so.

548
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: Tell me about it. I'm gonna stop stipping, sorry y'all. Anyways,

549
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: though it looks like a good time.

550
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 5: My.

551
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 6: Friends are crazy. They are yes.

552
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 3: And blue.

553
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Speaker 7: All right, So you know, unpopular opinion here. But I

554
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 7: still ain't nobody told me what the fuck it giving

555
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 7: love and hip hop even means?

556
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, What does that even mean?

557
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: It?

558
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: What?

559
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 7: Nothing about that trailer felt like I was watching the

560
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 7: episode of Love and hip Hop, and I don't think

561
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 7: nothing is wrong with love and hip hop, So I'm

562
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 7: offended by the even the idea of it. Right, people

563
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 7: saying the show change is so different. Now, let's break

564
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 7: it down. In the trailer, you have Portia accusing Kelly

565
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 7: of sleeping with a mary man.

566
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Speaker 6: Hello.

567
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 7: Season one, they accused Kim Zosiak of sleeping with a

568
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 7: married man, and it became one of the biggest storylines

569
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 7: that carried all the way over.

570
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Speaker 6: Into the season fucking teen reunion.

571
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 7: Okay, oh, it's loving hip hop because they holding Kate

572
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 7: Michelle back from fighting Drew season one. On the reunion couch,

573
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 7: Lisa was holding Nini back from lundon at Kim, it's true,

574
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 7: what are y'all talking about? Like we're talking about financial

575
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 7: Pinky has financial issues. Schirey was going through financial hell

576
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 7: season one. Didn't know she was gonna have a pot

577
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 7: to piss in or a window to throw it out of.

578
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 7: It's not a departure from the original formula of the show.

579
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Speaker 7: And I don't understand what people even mean when they

580
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Speaker 7: say it's giving love and hip hop.

581
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Speaker 6: No the fuck is not.

582
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Speaker 7: And if you homophobic, don't say it's giving nothing, because

583
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 7: that's black gay slang that y'all have reappro propriated and

584
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 7: taken and ran with.

585
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 6: So that's another thing.

586
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 7: Are you Bible thumpers who have a problem with homosexuals

587
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 7: and the LGBTQ plus and don't even take the time

588
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 7: and have the patience to remember the order of the letters.

589
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 7: Don't say shay T is giving. Don't say none of

590
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 7: that shit. All that is blackgay slang. But that's another

591
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 7: lesson for another time. I don't think this is quote

592
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 7: unquote giving love and hip hop. I think it looked

593
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 7: like a very interesting trailer. Pinky Cole is a personal

594
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 7: friend of mine. I've been doing Pinky for years. When

595
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 7: I hosted two seasons of a show called bet on

596
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 7: Black on Revolt, Pinky was, Pinky and I were the

597
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 7: only people that came back. The judges panel changed and

598
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 7: Pinky remained. Pinky is a serial entrepreneur that's been very

599
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 7: honest about the ups and downs of business. And entrepreneurship.

600
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 7: That's gonna read well with the audience. She just made

601
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 7: headlines today for filing bankruptcy without shame.

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00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 6: Okay.

603
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 7: Pinky has a beautiful family. There's five children in her family, like,

604
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 7: there's a lot of story there and Pinky is very vocal.

605
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 7: She speaks up her and Ky Michelle. I believe our

606
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 7: sorority sisters. We have the insults flying between Pinky and Angela.

607
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 7: In the trailer, Angela called her Papa Smurphin and mister clean.

608
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 7: They talked about how each other looked the entirety of

609
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 7: season one. Remember Lisa wo just called Nini a moose

610
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 7: about two three weeks ago. In the media, they've been

611
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 7: talking about a body shaman, talking about how people look

612
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 7: so miss me, particularly with the It's giving love and

613
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 7: hip hop shit because I hate that whole conversation.

614
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 6: Enjoyed the show, that's all it is. Huh Lisa, who

615
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 6: is still trending on the baby she got friends.

616
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 7: She got drunk at the damn Remember when they did

617
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 7: the Ultimate Girls road Trips stop in Atlanta, Nini's return

618
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 7: to Bravo.

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00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 6: She was there because she's a season one cast member.

620
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 6: Apparently she got drunk and was.

621
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Speaker 7: Being drunk and starting ship Nini, saying Nini overlooked her

622
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 7: when she was mentioning the people there, and she created

623
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 7: a scene. Nini tweeted or posted in the comments like

624
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 7: girl by aa, you know what I'm saying, like telling

625
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 7: her to go to alcohol and now alcoholics anonymous.

626
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 6: So I say all that to say, all the things that.

627
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 7: People are attributing to giving love and hip hop have

628
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 7: been present since the day this fucking show came on

629
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 7: the air. Missed me with the conversation it just enjoyed

630
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 7: the show April fifth, right, April fifth.

631
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I.

632
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: Feel like you're speaking to me because I said the comment.

633
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 7: I'm not but everything you just said, it's a ton

634
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 7: of people saying it. I'm the only one that said

635
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 7: it on the carpet, So I'm not going to you

636
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 7: talking to the people that's saying that I'm not.

637
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: I'm not appropriating anything. I just want to say.

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00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: I think that, Yes, you're right, a lot of those

639
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: things happened before, but we can't things got more. I mean,

640
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: I've seen there's a lot of stuff that didn't make

641
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 4: the cut. Carlos knows that, but things started to get

642
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: a little more ratchet in some season, okay, where before

643
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: it would be more verbal and things there was a

644
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 4: lot more frequency of things getting physical. I do think

645
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: the trailer looks I think the tone of the season

646
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: looks different than prior trailers.

647
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: Like the overall trailer looked like that.

648
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: Now that doesn't mean the season's gonna be like that,

649
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: but it different looks like younger, faster, quicker, quicker, like

650
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: a lot more of that and less like hoity tody

651
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: a nasty read with a glass of wine. It's more

652
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: like and I think that's what I took from it

653
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: from as far as like to me, I felt like

654
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: that it looked more, a little bit more towards that other,

655
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: that vibe of what.

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Speaker 6: You're saying, hold on blue.

657
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 7: So so the qualifiers we have at this point, right

658
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 7: for real, they're looking like love and hook hip hop

659
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 7: was it, and not having hoity toity people and having

660
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Speaker 7: a little bit more mm mm hmmm.

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Speaker 5: Well it's more than that. It's the trailer looked a

662
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Speaker 5: lot different than the past. It just looks it.

663
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Speaker 7: Looks like we gotta I just feel like we gotta

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Speaker 7: be clear because to me, now, you let me be clear,

665
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Speaker 7: right because it's ain't.

666
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about this is This is a good

667
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: discussion because.

668
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 6: Continue to hear you say what.

669
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 5: What it is? Me though, because we're talking about I'm.

670
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 7: Not talking about your opinion. I'm speaking to the issue.

671
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 7: So I just want to be clear on it. I'm

672
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 7: not like challenging what you how you felt about it.

673
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 7: I'm not challenging that. I'm just saying I think a

674
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 7: lot of times when people continue to repeat things that

675
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 7: they've heard, this person ain't got no storyline. The ratings

676
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 7: is love, it's giving love and hip hop. Like you

677
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 7: hear one person say that, You hear people say it

678
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 7: all the way through, and nobody ever clearly defines like

679
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 7: what it means. I don't think my in my opinion

680
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 7: right as far as like what love and hip hop

681
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 7: is or whatever. I didn't feel like the trailer mirrored.

682
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 7: That felt like a house to me.

683
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: And I'll get your second blow.

684
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: As somebody who worked on a lot of housewives and

685
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: Love and Hip Hop, right, I will say this, in

686
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: the earlier days, it was extremely apparent the distinction of

687
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: the show right based on these sort of broad strokes

688
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: that was like pain brush on it.

689
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, Atlanta.

690
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: Housewives was always seen as the sort of upper echemom

691
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: black female ensemble show. Love and Hip Hop was seen

692
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: as the more greedy show. As somebody who worked on both,

693
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: what I will say is this, I've always believed that

694
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: both shows deserve the same amount of respect in terms

695
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: of as black people, we're all trying to figure things out.

696
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: And yes, there were tons of theory moments. I mean,

697
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: my girl Cherae pulled kimswig season two, episode four, right,

698
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: it was always his intersection that was very clear.

699
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: The only difference was, and this is.

700
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: Again I'm speaking as a producer only not a viewer,

701
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: was the sort of tonality of how it was presented, right,

702
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: Charay pulling Kim's wig was no different to me than.

703
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: Jos Lene getting into her Carly Ray.

704
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: The only difference was Charay had on Chanelle and at

705
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: that time jos Len had on you know what she

706
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: had on? So what I do think is happening as

707
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: we fast forward, right, and this is this is what

708
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: I want to get to Claudia's comment about just shows

709
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: being dramatic, because there are people who do feel like,

710
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: what can there be a show about black women who

711
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: get along as somebody who creates shows. I'll even say this,

712
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when people are at home,

713
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: they want entertainment, and you do have the sort of high.

714
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: It's what Tyler Perry he said this. I'm not calling y'all,

715
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: this is what he said. Tyler Perry said that is

716
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: these uppitty negroes right who feel like, why are you

717
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: showing this? And why are you showing that? And listen,

718
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: I get shame for my own shows too, But for me,

719
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: I never go into eat of my shows thinking more

720
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: or less of this.

721
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: I go into can we show the reality of what

722
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: all are going through?

723
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 6: Right?

724
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: And in the midst of that, when you get people together,

725
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: it's something dramatic is going to happen. If we hung

726
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: out for three months, we're going to get to argument, right,

727
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: because we're the four of us are very type A personalities.

728
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: So I say all of that to say I do

729
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: think there's room for both. And last, but not least,

730
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: there's a shows washed up the weekend called The CEO

731
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Club that was just about on Amazon Prime is EP

732
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: by Serena Williams. It's Serena Williams, Winnie Harlow, Lauren Reneger.

733
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 3: And Yes, yes, So that's my point.

734
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: It's a show that I binge over the weekend, call

735
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: the the CEO Club on Amazon Prime's not getting any press,

736
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: it's not getting traction.

737
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: And let's have a conversation because of y'all, not the

738
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: three of y'all meaning the audience.

739
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: So those same people who want it, there's a show

740
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: out there that Dustin the Historian has even heard of.

741
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: Because y'all aren't watching it. Y'all claim y'all wanted. Y'all

742
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 2: was dissing summer House, Martha's Vineyard, Oh my god, it's

743
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: so boring, nothing's happening. And the show got canceled up

744
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: the two seasons, which I do think this I no

745
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: longer subscribe to.

746
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: Can the show be A or B?

747
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm at the point in my career where it can

748
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: it show be good?

749
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: Can I can I? Can I get a.

750
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: Cast who needs to work? Can I get a cast

751
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: who clocks in? Can I get a cast who's not

752
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: going to go on social media and blame production for

753
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: how they acted? And because social media read them, they

754
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: want to Recarlos King. I want a cast to where

755
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 2: you knocked on my door signed to do the show,

756
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: and then when you got there. I ain't talking about that.

757
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: That's too personal. We need to talk more about that

758
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: versus whether something seems to be dramatic, and at the

759
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: end of the day, is what you guys want.

760
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 6: I agree they do want that.

761
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 5: That's why the bar keeps moving.

762
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: And again, it's not meant to be a disc it's

763
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 4: meant to say I, in my opinion, this square thinks.

764
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Speaker 5: It's just different. It just looks different than what it

765
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 5: used to be.

766
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 8: I just add some language though, because Justin asked a

767
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 8: really great question. I do want us to answer because

768
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 8: it's not rhetorical. That actually is an answer for it.

769
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 8: Justin said, we say things, and he's right that we

770
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 8: don't define. And I actually do think that Claudia is

771
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 8: she's targeting something or picking up on something that we

772
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 8: do need to define.

773
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: The clarify for the audience.

774
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 8: If you are looking at reality to be like a dial,

775
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 8: can we all be honest if there's a dial from

776
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 8: mainstream to high class.

777
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: Black to nigga shit, can we all be honest?

778
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 8: Right?

779
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 6: Yes?

780
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: And so shows like CEO.

781
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 8: Club, which I was actually gonna mention, so I'm happy

782
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 8: you mentioned it, which I also binged because I was like,

783
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 8: this is so wholesome.

784
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 3: I feel like my credit score were not just watching

785
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: this and having a play in the background, but of.

786
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 8: Williams and good Whites just being really lovely to each

787
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 8: other and signing checks for Venture capuls fun.

788
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, this is amazing. Right, I

789
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 3: love Hannah Broffman, you are my girl.

790
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 8: So from the Serena CEO Super and they call that

791
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 8: a docuseries right when it's really mainstream and white adjacent.

792
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 8: It's called a docuseries when it's super super, super Ratchet,

793
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 8: it's considered the love and hip hop turn of the

794
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 8: dial all the way up, and the middle of the

795
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 8: unfortunately is the bougie Blacks. I think what Claudia's responding

796
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 8: to is there were moments where I don't even know

797
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 8: if m Zosie I can fight, because she doesn't have

798
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 8: to know how to fight to be on that show, right,

799
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 8: So there were moments where Atlanta hovered in.

800
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: The middle as bougie Black. Then it would.

801
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 8: Sometimes dial up towards Ratchet, and then the last couple

802
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 8: of years it died right back down to almost boring. Right,

803
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 8: the dial for Atlanta keeps moving, So to Dustin's point,

804
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 8: He's right, there were times where.

805
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: Atlanta was kissing nigga shit.

806
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 8: But then to Claudia's points, for there are several years

807
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 8: when it died back down to the bougie blacks, and

808
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 8: I think, because it's been so boring or safe for

809
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 8: the last couple of years, I think she's accurately picking

810
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 8: up on an uptick towards ratchet nigga shit. But to

811
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 8: Dustin's point, they've done that to niggashit before, So I

812
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 8: think you're both actually right. The dowt just moving with

813
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 8: that show that was just foah yeah, And and the

814
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 8: thing is is something that evolve.

815
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: So what I want to do is when the trailer dropped,

816
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Caym and Shell and Drew got into a war of words, okay,

817
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: and I want to read you guys exactly what happened.

818
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: So the trailer dropped juice door, Claudia's cousin.

819
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 3: Said, it's your.

820
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: Real cousin, her everything a and Michael Jordan. I told

821
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: y'all a million times we have I will see them all.

822
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 6: Together, and I'll always leave Barbara.

823
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 5: Keep me acting funny. Sometimes we don't be around her

824
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 5: like that.

825
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: When the trailer dropped Juice, a door said, welcome to

826
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: the jungle. Cami Shell and Pinky Cole keeping getting peachy.

827
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: There's got a whole lot wilder the Real houseplos on

828
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: the latter returns April fifth, Cam and Schev responded, Yes,

829
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: Drew spelled, check and awe. You're almost their little lady.

830
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: But why would I get attention from you when you

831
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: barely made the cut? I have to say to you right,

832
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: tell the people why you are just narrating, no worries.

833
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 2: I got you every time, beauty. I never get any

834
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: thanks that deserve Juice. Dourra responded, barely made the cut.

835
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm five seasons in. You thought I wasn't easy target,

836
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: but you got the right one.

837
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 6: See you.

838
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 2: April fifth, at ahm On Bravo, Hakuna matata kiy Michelle girl,

839
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: thank you. You are the lying king. Roar juse Dourra said,

840
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: if I'm the lining king, you just a yodling hoot,

841
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: making noise for attention, no power, no truth. Dustin Ross,

842
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: who has a sold out show Mars Summit teens with

843
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: a second one, Adam the same night in New York City?

844
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on these war of words?

845
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: Did anybody win the war to.

846
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 6: You this bat No know.

847
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 7: It was a draw to me because both of them

848
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 7: was corny in my opinion, but entertaining nonetheless right entertainment,

849
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 7: lighthearted jabs back and forth. This is what you want

850
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 7: the Housewives to do, A lighthearted, witty verbal exchange. You

851
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. Over in social media, they've been again.

852
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 7: They've been doing this shit since the beginning. Let's take

853
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 7: it back to the rite of blog days when they

854
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 7: wrote a blog on Bravo dot com and talk shit

855
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 7: the entire time. So this is nothing new for the

856
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 7: crowd that says, you know the phrase that must not

857
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 7: be said. But yeah, shit, you know what I'm saying.

858
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 7: I thought it was great. Give me more, give me more,

859
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 7: give me more. I can't wait for the season. This

860
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 7: is exactly what I want them to be doing.

861
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: Blue.

862
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 8: I honestly think it's I think it's wonderful. I think

863
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 8: this is I think if Angel had come in with

864
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 8: this kind of energy, I'd like more.

865
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 9: So.

866
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 8: I just feel like, after watching you know, Sadness and

867
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 8: whatnot for the past, have iver seend many episodes of

868
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 8: that other franchise. It's nice to see housewives back to

869
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 8: being housewives and not having to go to therapy sessions

870
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 8: for like different scenes. So this is the levity tea

871
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 8: that makes the show fun. They're both in on the joke.

872
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 8: To Dustin's point, it's fun when everybody's in on the joke.

873
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 8: Everybody's acting like they're doing a reenactment of Paris is burning.

874
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 8: We all hear the key, right, Kiki, The shade shade

875
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 8: means you know you ugly.

876
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: I didn't gotta say it, right.

877
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 8: I love that quote, but no, I love this iteration

878
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 8: of it because I think this is what's gonna pull

879
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 8: the viewers back, because last season got.

880
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: A little bit dark.

881
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 8: There was a cloud over the last season or two

882
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 8: that made me feel like it's this franchise over. It

883
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 8: feels rejuvenated to me. So I actually am very much

884
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 8: looking forward to ky Michelle and Drew the door just

885
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 8: tugging on each other's wigs all season long.

886
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Yes, Claudia, I also thought it was a little corny.

887
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, I guess I don't know what the backstory

888
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: is enough about why they're already so much beef between

889
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: Drew and ky Michelle, like out the gate, damn, and

890
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 4: we haven't seen it yet, so we don't know. I heard,

891
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 4: of course, little things, but yeah again, uh, it's an

892
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: injection and a shot in the arm to give some

893
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: energy back on the show.

894
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 5: We love certain things about last season.

895
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 4: Angela Oakley mainly, but now there's other reasons that doesn't

896
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: have to just be all on Angela's back to carry

897
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: the season, Like we see this other potential, uh not

898
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 4: just overly done storylines, like some fresh stuff like what really?

899
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 4: Who knew there was beef between Ky Michelle and and

900
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: and Drew and now we know? So I'm looking forward

901
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 4: to it. It seems it's gonna be exciting.

902
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 5: So I just hope no one. I don't want to

903
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 5: see any fights. I want verbal verbal because I.

904
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: See that on the other showing about Claudia respect.

905
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: You don't back down? Are you serious?

906
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: That's because they both just listen. They both aren't the

907
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: equivalent of I said.

908
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 7: I said, like, it's okay, it's not even like a

909
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 7: it's not personal for me, you know what I'm saying,

910
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 7: Like it's okay.

911
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I love it.

912
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: I love it, And that's how you have a healthy debate.

913
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 3: So listen. In case you guys haven't heard.

914
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: With Drew's numerous posts, The Real Hospitals of Atlanta returns.

915
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: June, promoting Baby.

916
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: It returns Sunday, April fifth, And when I say to you,

917
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: I'll say this much.

918
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: There is something about Atlanta that just drives me up

919
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: the wall in the best way possible.

920
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: I literally cannot wait to recap this show with y'all's.

921
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: There is I think about this show that when we

922
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: talk about it, there's people who text me that's on

923
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: the show that'd be like, I heard what y'all saying.

924
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, nonetheless, let's get into another show that people

925
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: are watching and texting me last week. So we need

926
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: to get into the Real Housewives of Potomac Part three reunion.

927
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: I want to start off by addressing me getting dragged

928
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: on Twitter all day today.

929
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 5: Hey what you do now? Friend?

930
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about it. So rain drops, come in,

931
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: come in, come in. And the beauty of this panel

932
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: is as you as all saw earlier. We all keep

933
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: it real with each other. It's like with you, we

934
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: can disagree, get a little boomboo. Once we log off,

935
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: we don't think about no more. So Claudia, Dusted and

936
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: Blue feel free to say what you gotta say before

937
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: we get to the rest of the reunion. I would

938
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: like to addressed me getting dragged on Twitter, because.

939
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: That just doesn't a big serious.

940
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm getting dragged because Giselle Kobe Bryant, a name I

941
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: gave her, did not have a package this reunion, and

942
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: they are dragging me because they said I am the

943
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: one that you know, said.

944
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 3: She's a force multiplier. How you know Gazelle Kobe Bryant

945
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: is not riding the bench, you know what?

946
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: How dreadful that you know gizl who you call the

947
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: star of the show, had no package. She lost her

948
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: seat to Wendy and all these things. So listen, I

949
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: understand the optics, right, and I'm here to say this obviously,

950
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: it's not great.

951
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: It's not great. Mm hmm, it ain't great. It ain't great.

952
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: As a gazelle apologists, don't be Jesus.

953
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: I'm actually a poor chapologist. But hey, Claudia, oh my.

954
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 5: God, that's breaking news. Wow, somebody clip this and give.

955
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: It to the shape room. This show is so fasty

956
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: that we're all dragging each other tonight.

957
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: Anyways, Claudia, like I was saying, no hauts aside, it's

958
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: not great. It's not great, And the reason why it's

959
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: not great is because, and I'm gonna say it, it's

960
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: not great because they actually kept it in the episode.

961
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: It's not great because they kept that moment in the episode. Yeah,

962
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 3: and it was Listen.

963
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: It's what I always tell the girls who reach out

964
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: to me or who I'm mentor or who I work with.

965
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: You should never get comfortable. I'm not saying Gazelle's comfortable.

966
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is if I was Giselle Kobe Bryant,

967
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: I would be worried because they kept that in And that,

968
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: to me is sending a message, and it's sending a

969
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: message for us to talk about You're only as good

970
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: as your last episode, You're only as good as your

971
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: last season. There's plenty of girls who had better seasons

972
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: that are on the show. And not having a package means, yes,

973
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: you don't have a storyline.

974
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it means. I'm not here to mince words.

975
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: When you don't have a package, that absolutely means you unfortunately,

976
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: did not have a storyline that was worthy of a

977
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: three part reunion, not one part, not two, but three

978
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: And it is concerning and for me, it goes to

979
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: show you that you could be the face of the show,

980
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: the fourth wall, supplying all these things. But you have

981
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: to be more than just I throw Shae, I move

982
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: story forward, I do all these things. In my opinion,

983
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: I think Gizelle is still one of the greatest, but

984
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: yet having no package, I would be concerned.

985
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 4: Also, like when she gave her own she said, fuck it,

986
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 4: I'm giving my own package, my own recap when she

987
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 4: said she's dating a set she was dating a congressman,

988
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: this that and the other, and all the drama around

989
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: the you know, the fathers with the money and all.

990
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 8: That, Like.

991
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 5: The fans were definitely.

992
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: Jimped you know what I mean, Like that could have

993
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: been maybe you can allude to your dating. Maybe you

994
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: don't show the congressman. So I understand that that's very

995
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: hard for them to go on a.

996
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 5: Show like that.

997
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 4: They can't, but like do it, Like how Kim Zozie

998
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 4: I had missed a big and just or whatever his name,

999
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: Big Papa, Big Papa, show that you've got something going

1000
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: on and that it's a big secret, and then let

1001
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 4: that be the storyline.

1002
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: Let everybody try to figure out who it is.

1003
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: But she I think she missed an opportunity to have

1004
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: she could have had a really popping storyline actually, because

1005
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: that's interesting.

1006
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: That family drama. Will she will she not win the

1007
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: court case?

1008
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 4: You know, who the hell is she dating that's in politics,

1009
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 4: living in DC, in the DC area, Like, I think

1010
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: that would have been highly entertaining and good for her,

1011
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 4: you know, and good for her because yeah, now I

1012
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 4: having a package that's damn there in front of the show.

1013
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 4: And as much as Ashley gets dragged, she had a package, right.

1014
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she had one.

1015
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: Claudia, you, being a reality star, would you be concerned

1016
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: if you were Gazelle?

1017
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 5: Hell yeah.

1018
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: When I was at the Housewives and y'all never show

1019
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: my stand up comedy, I said, oh, I know, I

1020
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 4: ain't come back next season. Oh shit, y'all did y'all

1021
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: did the whole photo shoot out everybody there that I

1022
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 4: fucking killed it at the show, y'all didn't show it.

1023
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 5: I said, oh, I already know. And then someone suggested

1024
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 5: I pretend I was dating an R and B singer,

1025
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 5: but I didn't do it. But anyways, wow, yeah, of course,

1026
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 5: of course.

1027
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: But I think Gizelle, she's because of her status with

1028
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: that show, she doesn't she'll be back next season. But

1029
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: if it's like two seasons like that. Hell yeah, but yeah, absolutely,

1030
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: of course I mean something. And like you said, they

1031
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: kept that in the show.

1032
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 5: I don't have a package because it pointed it out

1033
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 5: even more. Mm hmm yeah, that show show it.

1034
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 8: Why did it feel like you were preemptively reading her

1035
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 8: reality eulogy at the beginning?

1036
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, do you like her because you

1037
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 3: convinced me she shouldn't come back to Hell.

1038
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: I love her, but I got listen, I worked these reunions.

1039
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: When listen, I know what happens in these meetings. That's

1040
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: why I said to the Raindrops Blue, I said, let's

1041
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: be clear, there is a there's a meeting that lasts

1042
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: up good god, there's a meeting that lasts up to

1043
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: an hour where you talk about the seating assignment. It's

1044
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: not happenstances. These are everything you're seeing on these shows.

1045
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: There's thought, there's process, is very methodical. Right when you

1046
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: don't have a package, that means that.

1047
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: That's not great. And I'm not I'm not gonna sit

1048
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: there and say, well, you know, no, I'm gonna be real.

1049
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: I still love her. I think she's great for the

1050
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: show still, but yes, I do think everybody should look

1051
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: at their career.

1052
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: And say, am I too comfortable? Do I need to

1053
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: accept up?

1054
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,959
Speaker 2: It's the reason why I worked six jobs because I'm

1055
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: just like, uh, I don't you know you you never

1056
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: want to.

1057
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: Wrestle your laurels. And I thought it was it was

1058
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: a strong message. And again, if I was just Zell,

1059
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: I would definitely be a little worried. I think about it.

1060
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 8: Though, her strongest moments were part of other people's packages,

1061
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 8: So even though she sill didn't get a package, we

1062
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 8: still saw her strongest moments. That is her fault, right

1063
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 8: If all your strongest moments are tethered to other old

1064
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 8: flushed even angel. If all your big moments are parts

1065
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 8: of somebody else's package, you've kind of given it away,

1066
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 8: but you don't have your own thing that's howsed with you.

1067
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 8: And I think that kind of speaks to how she

1068
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 8: showed up this season. I do think it's an accurate

1069
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 8: display of how she showed up. I'm shocked that actually

1070
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 8: got a package, right, she might have negotiated that to

1071
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 8: stay back. I will say this though, Gazelle being in

1072
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 8: the middle of the couch, I think had she not

1073
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 8: been so seasoned and been a veteran, she probably would

1074
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 8: have been at the edge of the couch with a

1075
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 8: jazzy in them, right, Like she really did not have

1076
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 8: much of her own thing going on. And the thing

1077
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 8: about her mother and stuff, I mean her stepmom and

1078
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 8: the thing they did that last season Claudia, and it

1079
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 8: didn't do anything with the audience. So I think the

1080
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 8: things that she's mentioning tested and nobody cared.

1081
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: I don't think we were robbed. I think nobody cared.

1082
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 8: And for Gazelle and Ashley, I know that Ashley works

1083
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 8: overtime when the cameras are off, so that we care

1084
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 8: when the cameras are on. Gezelle goes home to her kids,

1085
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 8: which is great, right. I think the show is getting

1086
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 8: away from her. I think the Wendy of it all,

1087
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 8: and the Karen of it all, even the Angel of

1088
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 8: it all, got so much bigger that she kept on

1089
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 8: feeling like a very prominent supporting character in other people's stories.

1090
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 8: And she's she's been doing this for a while and

1091
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 8: gotten away with it. She's gonna actually have to find

1092
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 8: her own story time And how do we find obout

1093
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 8: the Congressman Claudia, Because they were asking Ashley about dating

1094
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 8: a politician, and she was like, oh, I.

1095
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: Thought you were talking about my politicians.

1096
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 8: There's a deradition in that even the way we find

1097
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 8: out about her information feels desperate her. Her grip is

1098
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 8: loosening more than she realizes. And I think Andy sees

1099
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 8: it because when they said, well, she said, doesn't have

1100
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 8: a package, and he was like, WHOA.

1101
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 4: And she should be worried because you guys are familiar

1102
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 4: with Drake how he bets on major sporting events, and

1103
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: whenever he bets on that team or that game, that

1104
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 4: team always loses.

1105
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 5: Carlos King, I think you're.

1106
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 9: The Drake of reality because you are really going hard

1107
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 9: for Mia and then she was gone, and then now

1108
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 9: and she got no package, and I'm a little bit scared.

1109
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: Don't do it.

1110
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: Don't do it, don't do it.

1111
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: I at the end of the day, okay, MEI leaks,

1112
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: Teresa Judies, don't play with me.

1113
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: Okay, playing all your picks. But I'm just saying, I'm

1114
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 3: just saying. I'm just saying.

1115
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: But my thing is this, let the record show you're

1116
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: talking about Potomac.

1117
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: Okay, that's about me.

1118
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: It's more about these girls understanding how the show works

1119
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: that I helped build where they're able to.

1120
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 6: Have the job.

1121
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 5: Okay, Drake for Potomac.

1122
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 8: All it's a seasonal Drake. You're a seasonal Drake. It

1123
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 8: depends on location, everything else.

1124
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: You're hitting you Madden's you know a thousand just I made,

1125
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: I made safety Rush my reality.

1126
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: Don't play her name and about to be going.

1127
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 6: Your well go ahead.

1128
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 7: As a person with a package, my package is very

1129
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 7: important to me, Okay, I coveted and me having a

1130
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 7: package that is represented and presented in the best light

1131
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 7: is important to me and to my core. So I

1132
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 7: can only imagine that as a reality star, having a

1133
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 7: package would be just equally as important to me. Gizelle

1134
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 7: got to step it up. Stop lying and living your

1135
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 7: life behind the curtain. You know what I'm saying. Put

1136
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 7: your man on the front. Get a nigga that's willing

1137
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 7: to film with you. You know what I'm saying.

1138
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 6: Put your I can only remember maybe one scene this entire.

1139
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 7: Season, season ten, in Jazelle's crib, and you know when

1140
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 7: you in her house because you never forget how her

1141
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 7: house looks, so you know where you're at and I

1142
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 7: didn't see, But not one scene I only remember maybe

1143
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 7: one scene in her house. So that's Jazelle's deficiency, you

1144
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. She needs to figure out a

1145
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 7: way to add add more to the story when it

1146
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 7: comes to her, and hopefully she will. I don't think

1147
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 7: she's in danger of removal from the cast by any means.

1148
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 7: I think that she just needs to step it up.

1149
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 7: And I think she's staying on them stove pipe legs

1150
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 7: like Karen said.

1151
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 6: And she'll stand up. She'll step it up, So I'm

1152
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 6: with it.

1153
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay. So I'm going to be very transparent

1154
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: in this one, so Dustin, I may have to have

1155
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: you do this one for me, okay, because I do

1156
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: not want to get emotional.

1157
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So we need to get into Wendy's package. Okay,

1158
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 3: So let's let's get to that.

1159
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: I want to give it out the way, and then

1160
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: we'll go back and talk about Monique and and and Stacey,

1161
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: because that's the update that we have all right. In

1162
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: an effort not to cry on camera because I don't

1163
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: like doing that, what I will say is I can't

1164
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: I can't talk about the Wendy and Eddie situation without

1165
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: me getting choked up because It's a very serious situation,

1166
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: and just like all of us have friends in the business,

1167
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: my bias will show in terms of the love. I

1168
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: have a Wendy who in real life is a friend who.

1169
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: Texts on birthdays.

1170
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: You know when she talked about October ninth, is when

1171
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: the police came to her door. She texts me, case,

1172
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: my birthday's October second, and she texted me, I want

1173
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: to say the day before or something, just saying.

1174
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm going to birthday and we and

1175
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: her have a great report. It was very hard to

1176
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: watch her go through the line of questioning and I

1177
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: can't talk about it. It was hard for me. It

1178
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: was hard for me to watch it so dustin her

1179
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: and just explain the Wendy and Eddie.

1180
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 6: Moment.

1181
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 7: For sure, I think that number one. The other ladies,

1182
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 7: her fellow cast members gave her a lot of grace.

1183
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 7: There was not a grilling of sources that took place.

1184
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 7: I think Andy asked some pretty direct questions that Wendy

1185
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 7: answered as honestly as she could or as as detailed

1186
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 7: it with as much detail as she could. She talked

1187
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 7: about the timeline of her home being burglarized and the

1188
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 7: accusations or allegations that the state of Maryland is Maryland. Yeah,

1189
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 7: Maryland is bringing to her. And so she she said

1190
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 7: as much as she could. She was so detailed and

1191
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 7: opening her her speech and dialogue on the stage that

1192
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 7: Karen told her to shut the fuck up, you know

1193
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.

1194
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 6: And so that was like a real thing. People feel

1195
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 6: like Wendy overshared.

1196
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 7: Some people feel like she may have put her case

1197
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 7: in a jeopardy in some way by speaking so freely

1198
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 7: on the stage.

1199
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm not no lawyer.

1200
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 7: I'm not here to make those determinations. But that's kind

1201
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 7: of where it went. And every time Wendy talked about

1202
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 7: details related to the case, she made it personal. When

1203
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 7: she had an opportunity to respond to negative comments that

1204
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 7: were made about her, she declined to respond to them,

1205
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 7: saying that she was going through so much that she

1206
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 7: couldn't worry about the opinions of other people. She talked

1207
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 7: about her children and the discovery of the robbery and

1208
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 7: things like that. So she made it really personal, which

1209
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 7: kind of I'm assuming created that response that you're having

1210
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 7: right now, Carlos, verys emotional for you, right.

1211
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 6: She personalized the headlines.

1212
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 7: In a way that made us have some of us

1213
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 7: have empathy for her on that stage, but she also,

1214
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 7: to some people's determined was talking too much and was

1215
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 7: too cocky and arrogant and not present enough in the

1216
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 7: trauma and turmoil that she's currently going through. So whatever

1217
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 7: your take is, it was a very raw look into

1218
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 7: her situation. And I personally was surprised at the Ashleys

1219
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 7: and Giselle's and hell Angel and Kei Earnus because both

1220
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 7: of them weren't in the best place with Wendy at

1221
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 7: the time. I was surprised that they did not go

1222
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 7: deeper or further into Wendy's situation. I was actually pleasantly

1223
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 7: surprised that they didn't, because it showed a little humanity.

1224
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: Agreed, and I thought from the time we got the

1225
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 4: news about Wendy that this reunion was going to be help.

1226
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: I think I haven't said she to be surprised that

1227
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 4: she showed up because a lawyer probably telling not you,

1228
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 4: And it's kind of like what Karen was saying, you

1229
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: saying too much, like to.

1230
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 5: Get her more in trouble.

1231
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, to me though, it made me feel a

1232
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 4: little bit more nervous for her because when you know what,

1233
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 4: it's like nothing right surfish, You're like, we're gonna get

1234
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: all little jabs in. But if you really feel like

1235
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: this is some real shit right here with her, and

1236
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 4: she seems like a woman that's nervous, not saying that

1237
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 4: she's guilty at all.

1238
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 5: I do not know the facts of the case.

1239
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that at all, but it is you

1240
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 4: don't have to be guilty to be nervous about the case.

1241
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: Right There's plenty of people that go to the person

1242
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 4: that are just didn't have the best legal defense, or

1243
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 4: if they want to get you, they're gonna get you,

1244
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 4: or technicality or whatever.

1245
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 5: It just looked like a woman that is scared.

1246
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: Even if her husband did it and she didn't. Because

1247
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 4: she didn't, it did come out that she had nothing

1248
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 4: to do with the paying the bills, a mortgage.

1249
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 5: And all that she like, let trust our husband totally.

1250
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 5: Imagine being that this is just hypothetical.

1251
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 4: Imagine being in that position where you love your man,

1252
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 4: your down form and you know you've got to put

1253
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 4: out a united front to the world because you're on

1254
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 4: reality TV. Plus that's your husband, and then something like

1255
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 4: this happens, even if you like you have nothing to

1256
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: do with it.

1257
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 5: You can't throw him under the bus.

1258
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 4: You have to just keep your mouth shut and take

1259
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 4: the arrows that are comment at you, all while saying

1260
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 4: I'm just worried about that. I do not envy her position,

1261
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 4: but I will say I agree with you, Dustin, like

1262
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 4: I love that the women didn't take that opportunity to

1263
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 4: kick her when she was down. But it also made

1264
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 4: me feel like, damn, maybe maybe it is more dire

1265
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 4: for her than, you.

1266
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 5: Know, than we may think. And I hope it's not.

1267
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 5: You know, I hope it's not.

1268
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 7: But that's why she looked the fun good. I say

1269
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 7: that while she was talking about it, she looked great.

1270
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 7: And I love the fact that she was dabbing her

1271
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 7: makeup and you could see that full finger linked ring

1272
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 7: she had on, and she was going, she.

1273
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 5: Looked bomb in this whole season, all out with the

1274
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 5: hair of the everything she can't with it.

1275
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 6: Shout out to Paris set.

1276
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, she looked, she looked great. I'm blue.

1277
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 8: I felt the probably the most empathy that I've ever

1278
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 8: felt with Wendy watching three, because here's the thing that

1279
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 8: a lot of people in the audience do not understand

1280
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 8: when we watch someone who is very prideful. Because I

1281
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 8: have a lot of Nigerian friends in the LA area.

1282
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 8: Because I think some Nigerianian friends I'm not I am,

1283
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 8: I kind of look like it, I know. And one

1284
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 8: thing I can tell you about Nigerian people is they

1285
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 8: are very prideful people.

1286
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 6: Yes, And for.

1287
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 8: Someone as prideful and well educated as Wendy to show

1288
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 8: up simultaneously with vulnerability and dignity, you could tell she's

1289
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 8: been humbled by this and she still maintained her dignity.

1290
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 3: It does something to people, particularly in black women.

1291
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 8: We like to see bougie hoity people when they're down

1292
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 8: and out fall to pieces. We almost get a sick

1293
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 8: satisfaction from watching them fall.

1294
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 3: Apart.

1295
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 8: The fact that she was able to be so vulnerable

1296
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 8: while still maintaining her dignity, I know it messed with

1297
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 8: people a little bit. People who wanted to see her

1298
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 8: crumble are annoyed that she still has dignity even during

1299
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 8: a dark time, rather than being inspired by And that's

1300
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 8: a nastness in the audience that y'all need to examining yourselves, right.

1301
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 8: And I think people like Wendy you are unsympathetic victims

1302
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 8: when things happen to them. We forget to humanize them

1303
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 8: because we're thinking, oh, you think you're big and bad,

1304
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 8: not thinking there's a person and children and a family

1305
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 8: and a whole ecosystem that is being adversely affected. Even

1306
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 8: when Angel tried to say, well, the whole time you

1307
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 8: were messing with me is because you knew you had

1308
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 8: this thing happening, and when he said no, that's not

1309
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 8: the timeline, she didn't get the defence, and she said no,

1310
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 8: if this happened in twenty twenty four, I did not

1311
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 8: think of it again until twenty twenty five, and then

1312
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 8: show up to my door.

1313
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: That is false.

1314
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 8: And so to see someone like Wendy be so humble.

1315
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 8: I think that's why the way Karen showed up bothered

1316
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 8: me so much, because it felt like you were taking

1317
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 8: someone who was as prideful as you while they were down.

1318
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: When they didn't do it when it was your turn first.

1319
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 8: And there was a nastiness in that because Karen is

1320
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 8: mad at Wendy for Wendy calling her out right darvo.

1321
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 8: Right when you attack, when you tell somebody, hey, you

1322
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 8: hurt my feelings, they flip it now they're hurt that

1323
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 8: you're hurt mm hmm, that they hurt your feelings, which

1324
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 8: is very toxic. And to be so toxic to Wendy

1325
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 8: and say things and bring up her mother in a

1326
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 8: really abusive and toxic and painful scene and weaponize that

1327
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 8: and say, well, the one thing I like when your

1328
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 8: mother told you to shut the fuck up was so

1329
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 8: nasty for someone who's supposed to be on a redemption arc.

1330
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 3: Karen has completely lost me. I'm gonna be very Karen

1331
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: Huger has lost me. And I was a big, big

1332
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 3: fan of Karen Hugar and then today at the end, say, see,

1333
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 3: I was trying to be like a mother to you.

1334
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: That's why I told you to shut the fuck up.

1335
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 3: That's a toxic matriarch.

1336
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 8: You don't get to be verbally abusive to somebody while

1337
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 8: they're down and then try to house it and nurturing energy.

1338
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 3: Well, I was looking out for you. No, No, it's

1339
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 3: given precious.

1340
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 8: I'm not a fan of that. And I think the

1341
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 8: fact that no matter when people were trying to I'm

1342
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 8: not a fan, Okay, I'm not. It was very very monique.

1343
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 3: And that's that Karen.

1344
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 8: You could have kept that fam okay, And so Wendy

1345
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 8: didn't get up and run away with with a bucket

1346
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 8: and fried chicken.

1347
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: She took it. She took it, and so I'm gonna

1348
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: say Wendy.

1349
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 6: Sorry, precious, which is.

1350
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 3: Toxic matriarch.

1351
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 8: So for Wendy to still take it like that and

1352
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 8: then continue to thank the rest of them and then

1353
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 8: say to Andy, Andy, you give the best hugs and

1354
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 8: I needed that. My heart goes out to her. I

1355
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 8: know we've made jokes before. My heart goes out to

1356
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 8: her now in a way that didn't previously, because now

1357
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 8: I'm seeing how will this is, how painful it is,

1358
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 8: how much it's changed her forever. And if you have

1359
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 8: a heart and don't just see these women as caricatures,

1360
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 8: I would find it hard to believe that none of

1361
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 8: you don't see how big of a deal this is.

1362
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm strong enough to speak on this part.

1363
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 3: I personally.

1364
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: I hear you guys say you feet of the girls sorry,

1365
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: the other women were nicer than y'all thought.

1366
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 3: I disagree.

1367
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,959
Speaker 2: I thought what we saw in the package, I didn't

1368
01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: was how they really felt. To hear gizl KK and

1369
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: Ashley and they're talking about it and you know, to

1370
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: hear Gazelle say I thought she was smarter than this,

1371
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: it's a dumb primise, you know, like, and then for

1372
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: Angel to make that comment and look, shade of shade.

1373
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: I just think when it comes to this, and this

1374
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: is my opinion, y'all could drag me forward.

1375
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 6: I don't care.

1376
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, if Wendy did it

1377
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 3: and Eddie did it, then.

1378
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 2: They have to obviously deal with the ramifications of their choice.

1379
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 2: With that being said, they didn't kill anybody, They didn't

1380
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: put anybody in position to die. Karen Hey, they did

1381
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: not do anything that was heinous that involved someone's livelihood. Yes,

1382
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: the worst thing that happened that people are saying is

1383
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: the premiums of insurance goes up.

1384
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: Got it understood. There's a bad comedy relivement.

1385
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: I if I was if I was a housewife on

1386
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 2: that show, I would have been like, I don't even

1387
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: want to like make fun of this because if this

1388
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: is what she did, let her speak on it. But

1389
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: I didn't like the smugness in the scenes and the

1390
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 2: moment they had the opportunity to face her head on.

1391
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'm praying about the children to

1392
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 3: me was a cop out.

1393
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: That was that was a defenth mechanism to be like,

1394
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: I don't want go start im one be nine. And

1395
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: for me, the only one that low key stood on

1396
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: business was Angel. She's like, look, I said what I

1397
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: said pretty much. So that was hard to watch for

1398
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: me because at the end of the day, if they

1399
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: did this, nobody physically got her.

1400
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 3: And that's and and and that's how I feel about.

1401
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 8: Carls with the six seven though the not to bring

1402
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 8: I'm not talking about the cast Claudia. The one thing

1403
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 8: I liked about No, there was a six seven woman

1404
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 8: and the thing it should be a drinking game six

1405
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 8: seven No. But there was a moment where Wendy said

1406
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 8: for the aliases, it was for packages. And I have

1407
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 8: a friend who was on Love and Hip Hop who

1408
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 8: whenever she orders Uber Eats, she has an alias that

1409
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 8: Juanita that she used to use until they flagged it.

1410
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 8: So she has aliases to order food, but she doesn't

1411
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 8: have aliensis for her taxes. And I thought that was

1412
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 8: interesting that Wendy was so it was so easy for

1413
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 8: her to give it a very plausible, innocent response to

1414
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 8: something that we thought like had her dead to rights.

1415
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 8: And so it made me wonder what else is being

1416
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 8: twisted that she could easily explore, you know what I mean?

1417
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 8: So now I actually believe let's I think, actually believe

1418
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 8: her a little bit more that it could be a

1419
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 8: prosecutor trying to make a case, to make a name

1420
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 8: for themselves, twisting things, even them saying that she was broke.

1421
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 8: She was like, we're broken subject. I don't think I'm broke,

1422
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 8: but the prosecutor could say that I have a million

1423
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 8: dollar home but only five hundred k in the bank,

1424
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 8: so I'm broke, right, And so it makes me think

1425
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 8: how much of this is consequential or circumstantial evidence that

1426
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 8: people are running with to build a narrative that if

1427
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 8: she actually had her day in court, she might not

1428
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 8: look as guilty as we think.

1429
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,879
Speaker 7: I agree one hundred percent. And that was my takeaway

1430
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 7: after the reunion too. Overall, I felt the entire union,

1431
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 7: the entire reunion was a little tepid, you know what

1432
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 7: I'm saying.

1433
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 6: The whole thing kind of.

1434
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 7: Fell a little flat for me all the way around.

1435
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 7: I know a lot of people were looking for angels redemption.

1436
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 7: Arc I did not see that exhibited from her into

1437
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 7: the Couch. I think that she responded to the questions

1438
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 7: that she was asked, But as far as a showing

1439
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 7: that represented a renewed angel or a different angel than.

1440
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 6: We got during the season, I didn't see that on

1441
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 6: the reunion stage.

1442
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 7: Overall, I think that all of the ladies could have

1443
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 7: contributed a little bit more, And it felt like because

1444
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 7: of Karen being not on the on the show this season,

1445
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 7: there were two brand new cast members, the season was

1446
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 7: just a little disjointed in a way that I think

1447
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 7: none of the ladies felt completely invested or completely committed

1448
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 7: to developing a rich, robust through line for the season.

1449
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 6: I just didn't see that happen. I saw a casual approach.

1450
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 7: I saw jokes and lighthearted nature, two things that could

1451
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 7: have been explored deeper. And so I think that they

1452
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 7: just kind of got through the season where Karen was

1453
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 7: in jail. And I think that once Karen is reinstated

1454
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 7: as a full time cast member now that we can

1455
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 7: continue with the residual feelings that they have from season

1456
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 7: ten as we go into season ten, right as we

1457
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 7: go into season eleven, I think that the returning cast

1458
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 7: members will have something to work with to give us

1459
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 7: a much more substantive season eleven than we got this year.

1460
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 6: At least that's my hope.

1461
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 5: So maybe this was like a transitional year because I struggled.

1462
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 5: I decided to watch that thing like three times, the

1463
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 5: Party Reunion.

1464
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,480
Speaker 3: Yes, like the other two fish Claudia.

1465
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm glad my commentary is so important to you.

1466
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 3: No, I'm not shut Claudia, I really have to use that.

1467
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I was like, oh my god, I'm like,

1468
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 4: I have to watch this before tonight's show. But I

1469
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: had to struggle and stop it started and I had

1470
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 4: to rewind it, like, okay, am I missing something here?

1471
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 4: It was it was boring, and I felt like, I

1472
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 4: think that Karen came in hot with Wendy because she's

1473
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 4: you know, you make like you make it up.

1474
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 5: For lost time, like you ain't been there, like let

1475
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 5: me coming high.

1476
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 3: Like that's the wrong person to do that with. That's

1477
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 3: nasty work.

1478
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 5: I agree.

1479
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 4: And then you know, the girls were kind of like

1480
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 4: taking like for a show, like I think in the

1481
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 4: beginning of us reviewing this shows, I was saying, Dan,

1482
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 4: the Potoma girls, they work hard for they check every

1483
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 4: single scene. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, verbally right for

1484
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 4: the show to be there during the season.

1485
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 5: The reunion was like here, I was like, yawn.

1486
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: Who is Stacy.

1487
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 8: I think Stacey being the unexpected hero completely knocked them

1488
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 8: off of balance. They thought that they had it figured out,

1489
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 8: and seeing Stacy be loved so much threw everybody off.

1490
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1491
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 7: I agree, one hundred and fifty thousand percent. I think

1492
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 7: that Stacy was the threat that they did not see coming.

1493
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 7: And she don't even have to be threat me a

1494
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 7: threat me personally. If we got a star on this cast,

1495
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 7: that's bringing all the mega waite attention to the show

1496
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 7: to the point where she is featured in a Vanity

1497
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 7: Fair list. That's good for us. So I don't understand

1498
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 7: the competitive dynamic, right, but I know some people do.

1499
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 7: It's just not really my thing. I think that it

1500
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 7: aided the show, and so instead of being intimidated by

1501
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 7: Stacy's catapulted rise to start them lean into that shit,

1502
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, And like, let the show

1503
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 7: about Carlos.

1504
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 8: Loving Stacy is why the reunion was tepid, because they're like,

1505
01:14:58,600 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 8: but we had a whole plan.

1506
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 3: I don't ruin it because you're clapping for her. Yes, Carlos,

1507
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 3: that the reunion was stepping you know.

1508
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 4: Again, we had were always looking forward to Oh Angel,

1509
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 4: were gonna bring it up the reunion since she got

1510
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 4: five thousand episodes at the end of the season about Colorado,

1511
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 4: I thought for sure, like after she had done seen

1512
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 4: a few I thought for sure she would like that

1513
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 4: would be her time to finally wake it up. She

1514
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 4: gave nothing, and then when she did try to jump

1515
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 4: into King's conversation, she was Kate.

1516
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 5: Was like, I could speak for myself anyways, and she

1517
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 5: got sunned and it was like.

1518
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: She could have She got chin chuck twice during the reunion.

1519
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 3: We rest our case. It wasn't a misunderstandab watched you

1520
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 3: get chin check on TV? Like nobody's lying on you,

1521
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 3: that's really you.

1522
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: What did I do?

1523
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: Want to ask all this though, I'll stummer, Claudia. What

1524
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 3: did y'all think though of Karen's return to the reunion?

1525
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: There were a lot of chatter online. I would love

1526
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on it. Do you think it

1527
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: was anti climatic? Did she come into strong were your

1528
01:15:58,600 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: what were your.

1529
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 3: Feelings of karen return, Claudia.

1530
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 4: I think because she missed the season and she came

1531
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 4: at the very end I think she was kind of

1532
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 4: making up for lost time and with just you know,

1533
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 4: like it's like a relay team and you got the

1534
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 4: sick and your team is behind, so you like you

1535
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 4: try to go all out when you finally get that stick.

1536
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 4: And I feel like she just went a little came

1537
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 4: in a little hot for the reunion, like with Wendy,

1538
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 4: where yet y'all haven't been around each other for a while,

1539
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 4: so it's like, why was it so contentious between the two.

1540
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 4: And I just felt like the timing it just kind

1541
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 4: of rub people the wrong way because we're all being

1542
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 4: empathetic and sympathetic to Wendy and here you come where

1543
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 4: we're just were sympathetic to you on that last conversation

1544
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 4: with Andy, and here you come and kind of being

1545
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 4: mean to Wendy, like and y'all have something in common,

1546
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 4: maybe you know what I mean. Like I felt it

1547
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 4: was a little bit, but I do it did make

1548
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 4: me realize Karen is needed for the show. But I

1549
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 4: just felt like she handled the reunion wrong, like coming

1550
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: in so hot at Wendy.

1551
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 5: It wasn't the right time.

1552
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 6: I think, Dustin, Yeah, I think that.

1553
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 7: I mean again, you got to go back to the

1554
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 7: I don't never like starting the story in the middle right.

1555
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 7: When Wendy came on to the Real Househi I of

1556
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 7: Potomac in season five, her and Karen did not get along,

1557
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 7: and they had previously interacted with each other on the

1558
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 7: social scene in DC, and that was the source of

1559
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 7: their original rift because Karen was acting like she ain't

1560
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 7: no Wendy and had been talking shit about Wendy joining

1561
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 7: the show to some of the other ladies, and that

1562
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 7: created their beef.

1563
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 6: They never really got cool cool like that.

1564
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 7: They just were both on the same side of the

1565
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 7: Giselle story as the seasons progressed, so they never was

1566
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,560
Speaker 7: homies like that in the first damn place. So I

1567
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 7: personally wasn't surprised by the tension in their relationship. In

1568
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 7: addition to the fact that we left off of last

1569
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 7: year's reunion with a blatant omission from Karen's thank you

1570
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 7: video as she entered treatment and subsequently her prison sentence

1571
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 7: for her DUI shit, she left Wendy out of that,

1572
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 7: so we were already anticipating them having a conversation about

1573
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 7: that and there being some sort of exchange. I wasn't

1574
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 7: surprised as far as her return on the reunion feeling

1575
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 7: anti climactic.

1576
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 6: We can blame Bravocan for that.

1577
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 7: When Karen was brought back into the forefront post release

1578
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 7: at Bravo Khan, there's the moment, right, so all of

1579
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 7: the fans of the show who are motivated to talk

1580
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 7: about it and tweet about it, the people that give

1581
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 7: a dam we were plugged into the fact that Karen

1582
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 7: actually appeared at Bravo Khan, and so that kind of

1583
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 7: took the wind out of the sales of her return

1584
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 7: to the show for us that knew that had already

1585
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 7: seen her since she been out.

1586
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 6: Basically, I think that if they wanted to.

1587
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 7: Make the reunion the moment, then they should have either

1588
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 7: not televised. They should have made no pictures or anything

1589
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 7: available for Karen being at Bravo Khan and save that

1590
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 7: fanfare and the moment. The impact of the moment should

1591
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 7: the reunion stage and then we would have had it.

1592
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Blue, with your thoughts on well, you pretty much

1593
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: intimated Can's return you felt disappointed by overall?

1594
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 6: What do you think?

1595
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 3: There's one?

1596
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 8: I agree with everything that was set except for one thing.

1597
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 8: Karen and Wendy had beef before because Karen was dismissive

1598
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 8: to Wendy and Wendy was like, you know, I'm not

1599
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 8: going okay, She's like mss EFI. However, though intimacy is

1600
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 8: forced through adversity, and the season before Karen had the

1601
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 8: DUI finally blow up in her face, her and Wendy

1602
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 8: had become cool because Wendy was the one who was

1603
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 8: showing her the most grace during her heavy season, and

1604
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 8: it felt like they had called a truce. I don't

1605
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 8: know if you ever had beef with somebody and you

1606
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 8: call the truth. I think remember when Claudia talked about

1607
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 8: her and Tamar, you're actually more intentional. It isn't that true, Claudia,

1608
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 8: When you have beef with somebody and you'll call the truth?

1609
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 8: Are you not more intentional about being kind and being

1610
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 8: thoughtful and beautiful? Because you know that we started off funky,

1611
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna be extra gracious.

1612
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 3: To you to show you that I sincerely want to

1613
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 3: fix it.

1614
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 8: Seeing Wendy extend so much grace to Karen the entire season,

1615
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 8: and then at the finale for Wendy to find out

1616
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 8: the person that she's been mindful of that we've seen

1617
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 8: on camera this is not subjective like we saw it

1618
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 8: on camera, has been still secretly talking shit while she

1619
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 8: thought they had a truce. Wendy sincerely was blind Siah

1620
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 8: that I thought we were Gucci. That's why I've been

1621
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,759
Speaker 8: working so hard to support you during this funky season.

1622
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,879
Speaker 8: I'm hurt cam turd, Wendy being hurt into Wendy betraying

1623
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 8: her darvo you know, Deny attack, reverse victim and offender.

1624
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 8: And now she's like, well, bitch, I don't owe you anything, right.

1625
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 8: I think it's nasty work. When you know that someone

1626
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 8: thinks that you have a truce, you're still talking shit.

1627
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 8: You get caught talking shit, and then you come back

1628
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 8: as if you're the victim, and you come back and

1629
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 8: if you're the victim hot when they're down and they're

1630
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 8: in the exact same position where they showed you grace.

1631
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 8: There's something nasty about that that, whether it surprises me

1632
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 8: or not, leaves a very bad taste in my mouth

1633
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 8: because the hypocrisy in that, and then to say something

1634
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 8: nasty and then couch it with I'm trying to be

1635
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 8: like a mom to you.

1636
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 6: No, we don't need mothers like that, right, You ain't

1637
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 6: my damn mama.

1638
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a nasty mother. I don't like it.

1639
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 7: Second, also thought that Wendy was reaching. We know Karen

1640
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 7: was reaching. Karen's reached for the reasons that she takes

1641
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 7: umbrage with different people in the cast for years. She

1642
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 7: said Giselle was death on her husband. She never did.

1643
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 7: The statement did not even equate to that. This was

1644
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 7: again the same thing. But I think Wendy kind of reached,

1645
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 7: like you called my mom a witch.

1646
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 6: No, she didn't.

1647
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 7: She referenced like a situation and a rumor that was

1648
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 7: going on. So they both was reaching. To me again,

1649
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 7: it all goes back to the fact that Karen never

1650
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 7: really fucked with Wendy like that anyway.

1651
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 6: And if you don't believe me, as Vivian.

1652
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 7: Okay, you know that friend Vivian who was the source

1653
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 7: of all of that ship that all sat on that

1654
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 7: board to get.

1655
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,839
Speaker 6: We remember the season five.

1656
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 3: So Rebuild that after reunion.

1657
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 7: Wendy got into it with Giselle and them. It lasted

1658
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 7: multiple seasons. Karen and Gazelle are frenemies. Her and Wendy

1659
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 7: found camaraderie in there. Disdain towards Gazelle.

1660
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 8: Against Wendy saying, Justelle had my back more than anybody.

1661
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 8: Thank you for that letter you left the doctor's menu

1662
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 8: and my mailbox.

1663
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 7: Girl, hush exactly blue that you caught that right, like

1664
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,879
Speaker 7: it's all the games. So that's why I wasn't surprised

1665
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 7: by the back and forth between the two it.

1666
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

1667
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: One of the biggest moments that happened in this reunion

1668
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: was obviously Monique Samuel's play the recording that was bleeped out.

1669
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: I suspected, like we all did, that it could have

1670
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: been one of her children. Ashley Darby revealed to I

1671
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: believe it's Reality Rundown. You know my sources Reality Rundown

1672
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: did a I believe it's a day brunch, day party

1673
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, Aby Ashley was the celebrity guest,

1674
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 2: and Ashley Darby revealed that Monique allegedly, I'll just say

1675
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: like that. She said that the recording on here was

1676
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: Monique son talking and that was what we weren't able

1677
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 2: to hear. Monique Samuels Well, before I get to that,

1678
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 2: Stacey denied it.

1679
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 3: Stacey looked shocked.

1680
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 6: Why are you saying that.

1681
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 5: She did?

1682
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 10: Stacey looked like what she looks shocked? Like, what what

1683
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 10: are we doing here? And I wasn't even sort of like,

1684
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 10: what is what is happening?

1685
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 3: What does this mean? Blah blah blah blah blah.

1686
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 2: So KK said that Dustin's favorite housewife, Cookie Cook.

1687
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 3: You can make it through a whole show without Cookie. Cookie.

1688
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: It is like the MVP of this season. She's our master.

1689
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 6: What she tells? Remember what she told?

1690
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: So y'all said that Cookie called her and said, Chris

1691
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: Samuels is mad he heard that his name was brought

1692
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: up in the scene and that he's going to send

1693
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: a seat and assist. Cookie said that Cookie has since

1694
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 2: revealed that she did not call KK because we saw

1695
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: our sources. But the biggest revelation that came out of

1696
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: that is the fact that Monique Samuel's today released a

1697
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: message that said a lot of time has passed since

1698
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: the reunion was filmed, and after gaining more information since then,

1699
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't believe Stacey had anything to do with any

1700
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:50,879
Speaker 2: of that bullshit.

1701
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 3: I'll probably go on live.

1702
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 2: On Instagram at some point this week and give y'all

1703
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 2: the entire story. I haven't watched the reunion at so yet,

1704
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: so let me catch up and get back to you,

1705
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,560
Speaker 2: but I at least wanted to clear her name on

1706
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: all of it.

1707
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 3: Blue, what are your thoughts?

1708
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 8: I'm happy you asked me because I've been chomping at

1709
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 8: the bit about this. Oh I'm happy I went first

1710
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 8: for this one child. Let me express something to you.

1711
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 8: I have a lot of lawyer friends, right, and my

1712
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 8: lawyer friends are always teaching me manipulation tactics about how

1713
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:26,480
Speaker 8: you railroad somebody who's innocent, And this had so many earmarkers.

1714
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 3: I was like, is this the boy that cried wolf?

1715
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 3: The one time Stacy tell them the truth?

1716
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 8: They're about to have a smoking bomb on her because

1717
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 8: the audio was a child saying who is Stacy?

1718
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 3: Who is Stacy?

1719
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 8: All it takes is Chris Samuels walking around the house

1720
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 8: cussing about Stacy for them to say that it doesn't

1721
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 8: improve shit, It doesn't prove anything. A child asking who

1722
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 8: is Stacy? Why does she keep coming up? Does not

1723
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 8: mean that Stacy sleeping with your ex husband. It was

1724
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 8: so watery and circumstantial. But you know who revealed themselves,

1725
01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 8: Cause whenever people have flimsy evidence, you can always want

1726
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 8: to see who was quick to believe it and who's

1727
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 8: quick to jump on it because that's how they felt already,

1728
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 8: and they were just looking for a reason.

1729
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 3: Tia was so thirsty about this.

1730
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 8: Tia was like, and that's why I was trying to

1731
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 8: sell a house to Angel and I had water and

1732
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 8: you didn't. Because Stacy's the devil. She's gonna eat all

1733
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 8: our husbands. Because the baby said, who's Stacy? Girls, sit

1734
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 8: the hell down, they showed they looked stupid. Ashley, Yes,

1735
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 8: it was the baby, everybody, honest, the child said Stacy's name. Yes,

1736
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 8: the baby said the word Stacy. Now what like, y'all

1737
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 8: are so desperate and thirsty to take this lady down?

1738
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 8: Your envy were so loud on something so flimsy. All

1739
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 8: it revealed was Stacey's exactly the star that Carlo said

1740
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 8: she did and ruined the arm again. It was all circumstantial, bs,

1741
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 8: and y'all jumped on it because y'all were waiting for

1742
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 8: a reason to not look stupid because the season got

1743
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 8: away from you.

1744
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 6: Uh, Dustin, I'm with Blue on this.

1745
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying Like this, it was a

1746
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 7: reach to me and vindication is what it's all about.

1747
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 7: That that message that Monique released today saying that saying

1748
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 7: that literally verbatim, Stacey didn't have nothing to do with

1749
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 7: that bullshit. That's what Monique type the message literally verbatim said,

1750
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 7: I now know that Stacey didn't have nothing to do

1751
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 7: with that bullshit. So that's why you never really jump

1752
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 7: on the bandwagon like that. Obviously they had some sort

1753
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 7: of dealings whatever, But that's whether or not her and

1754
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 7: Chris know each other and have engaged in whatever way.

1755
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 7: Is a different conversation from her having conversations having conversations

1756
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 7: with Chris that are negative about Monique and her participation

1757
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 7: in the show.

1758
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 6: Two different things. And either she did it or she didn't.

1759
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 6: So I don't know. But like you said, Stacey was shot,

1760
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 6: she wasn't moving, there was no pivoty of her neck.

1761
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 6: It was very much all of that, you know what

1762
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So, yeah, Claudia, I think that.

1763
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 4: I love First of all, I love Monique for this

1764
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 4: reason like I love people that do this, because she

1765
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 4: could have easily rolled that for next season then had

1766
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 4: a reason to just have a little beef with Stacy.

1767
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 3: She didn't.

1768
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 5: She chose to be like, you know what, I care

1769
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 5: about what's right and what's wrong. I love that.

1770
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 4: I love that I just feel like Stacy don't help

1771
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 4: her case when she relying so much. So yeah, so

1772
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 4: that's what, like, it makes it easy to be like, Okay, Stacy,

1773
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 4: Like I'm so confused about why she told her producers

1774
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 4: she kind of went out with them. Then there was

1775
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 4: a picture that she did and that she did whatever.

1776
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 4: It doesn't help a show like this. You gotta know

1777
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,839
Speaker 4: they got to jump on that and make a mountain

1778
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 4: a moo a mohill into a mountain because the.

1779
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 3: Mountain again, you've been climbing all episodes.

1780
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 4: Yes, so you know, I think you know you ain't

1781
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 4: help you, You help them, You help them have like

1782
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 4: villain demonize you. But I think I think the MVP

1783
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 4: nut situation is Monique for clearing her name when she'd

1784
01:28:59,000 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 4: have to.

1785
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 3: To.

1786
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we we now wrapped up this season,

1787
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 2: and I want to ask the three of you this

1788
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 2: question and listen. I will also join into okay, predictions

1789
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: and or wants, starting with Claudia. We know that the

1790
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: reunion is the final moment for a housewife to make

1791
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: it to the next season. Claudia, this was a cast

1792
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: full of was it seven people? Seven housewives? I think, yeah, Claudia,

1793
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 2: who's your prediction that will was the common banks that

1794
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 2: would make it to the next cycle of Top Model?

1795
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 4: Should I say make it or not make it? Because

1796
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 4: it'd be less time to say not make it?

1797
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 6: Right?

1798
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, let's go Claudia Jordan, who do you

1799
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: think will get the cut and not return to the

1800
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 2: next seas the Housewives of.

1801
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to say Angel because we were waiting

1802
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 4: for this reunion to be the thing to bring her back,

1803
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 4: and she had three, four or five episodes of her

1804
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 4: being the lead, and then I thought the reunion was

1805
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 4: gonna be like Herbie shut everybody down, bam bam bam,

1806
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 4: coming with.

1807
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 5: The nothing it was. It fell flat. I wanted. I

1808
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 5: wanted to see fireworks. I wanted to see her wake

1809
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 5: it up.

1810
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 4: I wanted I wanted to see her say I heard

1811
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 4: what all you bitches said about me all season long

1812
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 4: after that, I'm seen the confessionals and the green screens,

1813
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 4: or got back to me and let me shut you

1814
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 4: all down.

1815
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 5: She did nothing. And then when she tried to even jump.

1816
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 4: On her best ees story, her friend, like y'all said,

1817
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 4: Chin checked her. It just she just gave ineffective.

1818
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 5: It gave like womp womp, and I wanted it to.

1819
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 5: I know, Angel, you think we hate you. We don't

1820
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 5: hate you, but we're waiting.

1821
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 3: No on the thing's dust and does I'm teasing, I'm teasing.

1822
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 5: She was, Yes, she was supposed to unload the clip

1823
01:30:59,560 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 5: and nope.

1824
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 4: The not only did the clip not get unloaded, she

1825
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 4: didn't even show up to the shooting range and didn't

1826
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 4: even get a license for the gun, and didn't even

1827
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 4: purcha and didn't even bring a vest. There was nothing she.

1828
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 8: Couldn't find that They put a pin on her phone

1829
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 8: and she went to the wrong location.

1830
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 5: Claudia, Yeah, yeah, or was a water gun? I was like, damn.

1831
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 5: I was waiting, like when we're gonna get to when

1832
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 5: we're gonna get to Angel's part. Did she have a package?

1833
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 5: I can't remember she had she.

1834
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 3: Had a package if those who don't know, cause somebody

1835
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 3: act was a package. A package is with they're a montage.

1836
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: Of the scenes that you filmed for the season and

1837
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 2: they play it. It's sort of like your highlight reel.

1838
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 4: Claudia and Giselle, you gotta come with her next season,

1839
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 4: like your a legacy. You're in the legacy. See you

1840
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 4: have position because of experience. But we want to see girl.

1841
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 4: I want to see you Dayton, I want to see

1842
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 4: the congressman. I want to see whoever else dating. She

1843
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 4: said she had a full dating life, but we see

1844
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 4: all that she's some saying. She said it in the reunion,

1845
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 4: but we saw not one piece of it the whole season,

1846
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,560
Speaker 4: and it was like one hundred episodes. It felt like you,

1847
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 4: you gotta come with it next season and be be big,

1848
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 4: be big dog on there. And Karen, don't just come

1849
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 4: back being mean. Karen, you have a lot that I

1850
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 4: would love to know about your story, Like your story

1851
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 4: is so interesting, like your redemption story and all.

1852
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 2: That you know.

1853
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,640
Speaker 5: You know, it was good. You came back feisty, but

1854
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 5: I want to see more so. But I'm not worried

1855
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 5: about Karen not having a storyline.

1856
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 3: She's gonna have it.

1857
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 5: She's gonna have it. But yeah, no, I'm good.

1858
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 3: I hope Cloudy is right.

1859
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 8: You ever meet somebody who you think is a bitchy

1860
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 8: or mean and then you talk to them you realize

1861
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 8: it's just a little stupid, like if you were giving

1862
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 8: them too much credit.

1863
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1864
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 8: That's how I feel about Angel. We didn't misunderstand her.

1865
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 8: That wasn't much there to begin with, and which is

1866
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 8: actually unfortunate because I thought she was misunderstood and I realized,

1867
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 8: oh no, you really are just flat the entire time.

1868
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 8: You're just like, you're just flat the entire time. I

1869
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 8: will say this, I think she's the only one who

1870
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 8: I don't want to come back, but I fear might

1871
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 8: come back because she because they want to see if

1872
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 8: she can't have a redemption arc. I will say Andy,

1873
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 8: Andy has never had a reunion. I feel like dustin

1874
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 8: the history right now. He's never had a reunion where

1875
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 8: he intentionally said I don't feel like talking about the finale,

1876
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 8: and the finale was all about Angel. That felt loud

1877
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 8: to me that he did not want to sit too

1878
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 8: much on a finale of his own franchise because he's

1879
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 8: bored of it.

1880
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 3: I think he's tired of Angel. So if she comes back,

1881
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 3: it will not be because of Andy Cohen.

1882
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 8: Four episodes of like what, I don't know what interesting?

1883
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 8: He can't had his expressions. He's exhausted with her.

1884
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 3: But this is what I this is why I find fascinating.

1885
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 2: Yet we've all had our opinions about Angel, and I'm

1886
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 2: not changing one that I've had, right, she had good moments,

1887
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 2: bad moments, whatever.

1888
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 5: What I do find so.

1889
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 3: Fascinating is.

1890
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: It's some interesting way she was like the sort of

1891
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: like engine this season, and I find that to be

1892
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: fascinating that if you remove Angel from the equation, would

1893
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: we have eighteen episodes without the reunion. But that's why

1894
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 2: I find fascinating about it. If I'm making sense, nothing, an.

1895
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 8: STD that you can't get rid of you have to

1896
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 8: keep going back to the doctor to get antibiotics doesn't

1897
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 8: mean you enjoyed it.

1898
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 3: Or want to do that again.

1899
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 6: No, you're not making no sense. No, you ain't making

1900
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 6: no damn sense. Carlos season. There's another way. There's another way.

1901
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 6: There's another way.

1902
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 7: People have committed themselves to this idea that chaos and

1903
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 7: behavior that is obtuse of what is normal and expected

1904
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 7: is the only way to get attention on reality shows.

1905
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 6: And it's simply not true.

1906
01:34:56,600 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 7: If Harness properly, if produced correctly, If yes, she was

1907
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,759
Speaker 7: a key part of this season, she was so boring,

1908
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 7: so like, yes she is a housewife, all things like.

1909
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 6: Concurrently all true at the same time.

1910
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 7: You know, what I'm saying, but her lackluster performance was

1911
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 7: not the key to us being interested in watching the show.

1912
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 7: It just did not equate to that, and I don't

1913
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 7: want to see her fail. I've long said there was

1914
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 7: opportunities for her to highlight her business, and as soon

1915
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 7: as we keep talking about the word package, there's a

1916
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 7: way to package her business in a way that is

1917
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 7: appealing to viewers that is not depending upon her personality

1918
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 7: shining through for its success, as is the case when

1919
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 7: you're a housewife.

1920
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 8: You know.

1921
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 7: So I just don't think that that was the right

1922
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 7: fit for her. Hopefully there's another world where that exists

1923
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 7: in the meantime, much like that film Angels in the Outfield. Now, Tia,

1924
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I was not impressed, was not.

1925
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 7: Tia is very much a b character to me. She

1926
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 7: responds to situations. She really didn't drive. There was no

1927
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 7: driving force, there was no memorable moment, there was nothing.

1928
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 7: And I personally lost interest in Tia when she attempted

1929
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:18,480
Speaker 7: to have that screaming match with Stacy at the reasonably Shady.

1930
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 6: However many episodes party they had. That's where I lost interest.

1931
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 7: Then she was messy going up to meet with Timo

1932
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 7: and Stacey and Arabella and getting in the car running back,

1933
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 7: looking up behind his elle very it felt it just

1934
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 7: wasn't authentic to me. So personally, I think there's space

1935
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 7: there in the cast for Karen's return and maybe a

1936
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 7: new housewife. Maybe we actually bring Cheris back, since she's

1937
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 7: deeply entrenched in the storylines. You know, never my favorite housewife.

1938
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 7: But this conversation isn't about my favorites. It's about what

1939
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 7: makes sense for the show. So that's what I think.

1940
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 7: I think that Angel don't really, based on what I've

1941
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 7: seen and her responses online, I don't really I feel

1942
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 7: one hundred percent confident that she has a desire to

1943
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 7: be on the show anymore, right, So if it's her

1944
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 7: wish to exit, then I wish her will, and there

1945
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 7: creates room for somebody else.

1946
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 6: I was ahead.

1947
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying everybody else can stay. I feel

1948
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 7: like Angeline, seea Angeline. Fia did their part by feeling

1949
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 7: holding space this season in their own ways, but they

1950
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 7: were always temporary to me.

1951
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll say this and we're gonna move on with

1952
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Speaker 2: the super chats.

1953
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 3: Look, the three of y'all says something that.

1954
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 2: Resonates to what I'm about to say, which is when

1955
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: you saw the girls have their opinions about Wendy, when

1956
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: you saw the girls try to you know, all gang

1957
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 2: up on Stacy.

1958
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 3: What what the three of you guys are saying is

1959
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 3: y'all won't real friends?

1960
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 8: You know?

1961
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 2: I remember when you know, back in the day, when

1962
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 2: you saw you know, Housewives and Clauda. You saw this

1963
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 2: on Atlanta where those when the girls were friends, they

1964
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 2: had each other's back even the friend was lying, they'd

1965
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 2: be like, I'll go, fuck, that's my friend, Like that's

1966
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 2: my friend. What we're seeing a potomac is there isn't

1967
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 2: genuine friendships. Dustin called it out earlier to where it's

1968
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 2: sort of like no one wants to get to know

1969
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 2: each other on a deep level. The reason why I

1970
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 2: had an eventual reaction to the commentary about Wendy is

1971
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 2: because y'all sent.

1972
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 3: I listened.

1973
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 2: I've never hung out with Wendy on a one on

1974
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 2: one level in terms of like dinner, but the relationship

1975
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 2: I have with her as Mini skul as it may seem.

1976
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 9: I.

1977
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 3: Can't bring it to myself to to to to say

1978
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 3: something negative about her.

1979
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 2: You girl, spent almost seven years with her, and off

1980
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 2: the bat, it's Shaye for Shay. Claudia called it where

1981
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 2: all these girls clocking for work, And I think what's

1982
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 2: missing is real friendships, like I really care about you,

1983
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 2: I really want to see you do well.

1984
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I could disagree with what you did, but I

1985
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 3: really care about you. I do think the show needs

1986
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 3: that coming coming into the next.

1987
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 2: Season, which is why I agree with Dustin. I'm not

1988
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 2: saying bring Cherise back as a full time housewife. I'm

1989
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 2: not saying that, and I only think she wants that.

1990
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 3: The best part.

1991
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 2: About this season is what happened with Charisse and Ashley

1992
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 2: after the show wrapped, the conversation of this woman kissing

1993
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: her friend's son.

1994
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 3: We never talked about that reality television. So the fact

1995
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 3: that we're not going we're not getting it. The fact

1996
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 3: that Sharis was at the reunion was a huge mistake.

1997
01:39:58,320 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 6: Huge you.

1998
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: She can be on Sherry, Reality with the King and

1999
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 2: all these other programs, but the one show to where

2000
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:11,480
Speaker 2: it may actually interesting, we don't get. Shari's pob miss opportunity.

2001
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: The other missopportunity we don't get is if you're gonna

2002
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 2: bring gonna meek back, bring back Canvas. I need to

2003
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 2: get I want to see. Yes, I don't want to

2004
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: see people meet each other because I'm gonna tell you what.

2005
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 3: It is and this is me. This is me low

2006
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 3: key just sending some of the girls.

2007
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 2: I think some of the girls feel like, if you

2008
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 2: could last more than two seasons, maybe all invest in

2009
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 2: a friendship.

2010
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 6: I know how it works.

2011
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 3: The reason why you.

2012
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 2: See these girls, Hayes, is because they feel like, if

2013
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 2: you can survive more than one season or two, maybe

2014
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 2: I could be your friends.

2015
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna waste time.

2016
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 2: They they saw Neka last one season unfortunately.

2017
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 3: And really they really they really like her and they

2018
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 3: hang out with her. But we got to get back

2019
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 3: to some real stories.

2020
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 2: Bring back series, bring back Candice, bring back Robin. I

2021
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 2: want to I want to get back to these girls.

2022
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 3: I getting it.

2023
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 6: I was just about cars.

2024
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, how did Robert I want to interrupt, But

2025
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 7: god damn lot you know Carlos are to come.

2026
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 5: I actually I agree with you on that.

2027
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 4: Yes, I listened to the real relationship playing people that

2028
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 4: don't have any connection like that's the.

2029
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 5: Friends I know.

2030
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you.

2031
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you I I listened to rhythmby Shady

2032
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 2: on the Black Offect Network and.

2033
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 3: Robin Robin got some.

2034
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 2: Strong opinions about Ashley and some of these girls, and

2035
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 2: I feel like Ashley and I feel like there's something

2036
01:41:57,840 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 2: with Ashley.

2037
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 3: Robin my opinion it is actually replaced her as the

2038
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 3: Green Eyed bandage. And don't you want to see a comedy?

2039
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 2: When Nini Lee came back season eight and they went

2040
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 2: to Jamaica and Charae and Faedr Porsche told Meini, where

2041
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:19,560
Speaker 2: you know Cynthia and Kenya are BFFs, And Nini said, BFFs,

2042
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 2: they're b f f N best friend for now, I'm back,

2043
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 2: and and and it raised the stakes of the friendship

2044
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: because Kenya felt, you're dissing because Nini's back. That's and

2045
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 2: and Nini Kenya has think the friendship ain't the same today.

2046
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 2: So my point is, I don't want to see a

2047
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 2: groga Hayes. I don't want to see you know, the

2048
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 2: girls talking about I want to see real steaks and friendships.

2049
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm with it.

2050
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 7: Let's have the all star season of Potomac. That's what

2051
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 7: I think Season eleven needs to be. We don't need

2052
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,480
Speaker 7: no new blood. We don't to get to know nobody.

2053
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 7: We need to dive back into the texture of the

2054
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 7: fabric of Potomac. I agree, let's bring back the old guard.

2055
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 7: Let's reintroduce some old names and faces, like Robin, like Charise,

2056
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 7: like hopefully to God, Candice, even though congratulations to her

2057
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 7: for signing with Cia right and dribbling that Traders basketball

2058
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 7: through her legs and break through the hoop nothing but

2059
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 7: net like she was supposed to. That's how you're handling

2060
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 7: opportunity like that. Kudos to her. I love seeing that shit.

2061
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 7: But so hopefully she has the time, because I feel

2062
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 7: like she's gonna be bombarded with opportunity and God bless

2063
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 7: her for that. If she has the time, I hope

2064
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 7: she comes back to the show. I would love an

2065
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 7: all Star season next season. Bring back Charise, Candace, and Robin.

2066
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 5: I like her.

2067
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 8: The question we forgot something my brain is tingling right now. Well,

2068
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 8: how do we feel about the fact that actually said

2069
01:43:57,960 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 8: that Charise was broke? So she that's why she talked

2070
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 8: about hunting, I mean kissing her son and.

2071
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 3: Exactly the moment.

2072
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,759
Speaker 8: If Charisa had actually grabbed that moment maybe on camera

2073
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 8: more maybe Bravo would have brought her on, but it

2074
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 8: fell out.

2075
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 3: She said that doing that live brush yesterday.

2076
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'm saying, if Charisa had a big reaction

2077
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:19,759
Speaker 8: on camera, I think maybe the scene would have garnered

2078
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 8: the attention that deserved in the Bravo universe, because it

2079
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 8: feels like all the fun stuff happened off.

2080
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 3: Camera and they kept exact.

2081
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, they tend to not really give a damn if

2082
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 8: they can't, you know, capitalize and have it on camera.

2083
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 8: I do think that the idea that Ashley was like,

2084
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 8: I'm trying to throw you a bone, bitch, or you

2085
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 8: could come back on the show and Seris let it

2086
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 8: fall to her feet, but throwing the with Carlos and Sherry.

2087
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying, so it worked out.

2088
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 8: A part of me is intrigued by that that somebody

2089
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 8: who's a stunt queen was trying to give out stunts

2090
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 8: like trick or treat Candy.

2091
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 3: I would love somebody to have bring that back up

2092
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 3: next season, Scharise.

2093
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 6: I can't.

2094
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 3: If I'm saying this, I would love you back.

2095
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 4: I think it has has to happen, Like I feel

2096
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 4: like that a little a bit of a redemption for Ashley.

2097
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 4: How everyone's coming after her like she was a child molester.

2098
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 6: But really, yeah, actually, you know, I love it.

2099
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 5: I don't love her. I'm just fair.

2100
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 4: And I've also been in a position where a lot

2101
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 4: of people hated me for things that were out of

2102
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 4: my control or a misrepresentation, So I guess I relate

2103
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 4: in that regard to what that would feel like, right, Like,

2104
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 4: we really was looking at her like she was a

2105
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 4: goddamn child molester because she kissed her her friend's son

2106
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:33,879
Speaker 4: that's ten years.

2107
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 5: Younger than her.

2108
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 4: But in reality, now hearing the Mama was like kind

2109
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 4: of pushing it on some Chris Jenner shit. Okay, Like

2110
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 4: that's to me is a huge difference. Like you can

2111
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 4: hate her for whatever other reasons or not like her,

2112
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 4: but like, in that situation, I think that is a

2113
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 4: big deal that needs to be on camera.

2114
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 5: They are definitely missing out that.

2115
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 3: It's crazy to.

2116
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 2: Me that cherise Is wasn't at the reunion, which I'll

2117
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 2: find if y'all don't bring Cheris back.

2118
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:05,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what ch'all want the show to be,

2119
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 3: because can we at least get hurt Ashley.

2120
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: Can you imagine her actually one on one and the

2121
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:15,719
Speaker 2: fact that actually said, Sharie fell on hard financial times

2122
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,560
Speaker 2: and I tried to throw her a bone, get a

2123
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 2: bit and really have a real conversation.

2124
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm actually on actually side for ones. Yes, So

2125
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 3: that's our five sense.

2126
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 6: Make it makes sense, Make it makes sense, produce.

2127
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 3: One of my favorite concentrators. All right, Range good. Thank

2128
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 3: you to the seventy two hundred people that to in tonight.

2129
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 3: We love you guys, do We love you guys, and

2130
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 3: we will see you guys next Monday. Have a great week.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

2132
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Niamit in a partnership with the Lack

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Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel at the Carlos King Underscore