1 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by the one 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: and only Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: our studios at Lambellfield to talk Packers football, coming off 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: of the bye week, during which, of course, the Packers 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: to one on one record did not change west. But 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: when the players returned from their break to the practice 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: field on Monday, there was a big change, and that 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: was wide receiver Christian Watson was on the practice field, 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: the fourth year receiver nine months in one day removed 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: from his ACL injury against the Chicago Bears last January, 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: practicing in the twenty twenty five season for the first time. 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: We don't know exactly when he will be put on 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster, when he will be ready 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: to play a game. All of that is TBD, but 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: a big step forward. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Christian wants, yeah, man, And it's wonderful because it's like, 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: it really does feel like it's been the worst kept 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: secret at lambeau Field that we are that close to 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: Christian Watson being back in regular practice action. And listen, 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it was really interesting listening to talking to 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: his locker on Monday, because he mentioned it was a 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: great question by Rob damofski a lot of the stuff 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: they did in Monday's practice, which was really just like 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: more of a run through type practice. You know, Christian said, 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: he's been doing some of that stuff for two months now, 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: but it's different when you get out in that setting 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: with your teammates. And we've been watching him all spring, 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: we watched him all summer. I mean, this guy is sprinting, 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: this guy is hitting top speeds, and now he can 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: put it back towards football. But I'll be honest with you, man, 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: the thing I was most impressed by two hundred and 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: seventy four days since he tore his ACL And I 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: understand he's a genetic freak. I understand he works really 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: hard at it. He said from the day that he 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: got hurt the day at the rehab start, he worked 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: every single day to get back. There's a reason why 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay extended him. They saw that work, they saw 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: what he was doing to get back for this football team. 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: He consulted Stefan Diggs. I mean this this guy left 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: no stone unturned in the process, and it's brought him 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to this point. It will be extra credit if we 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: see him on the field in October, But realistically, the 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: goal was to get him back for the second half, 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: and it looks like the Packers are getting a prety 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: darn good version of Christian Watson at that. 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think hopefully the fans are able to 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: exercise some level of patience here, because at whatever point 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: Christian Watson is activated to play in a game, you 51 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: have to understand he's not going to go out there 52 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: and play fifty some snaps in his very first game back. 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 2: I mean, there's going to be a ramp up period here, 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: you know. And I'm not going to try to predict 55 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: what snap counts there might be, how many weeks that 56 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: might be, whatever the case. But I'm totally with you 57 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: in that this has felt from the beginning, because the 58 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: injury happened in the regular season finale last year, that 59 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, if you get Christian Watson back for 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: the second half of the twenty twenty five season, that's 61 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: what you're aiming for. If he's actually back on the 62 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: field before the Packers get to the halfway point, that 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: feels like just a bonus that could potentially just have 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: him all the more ready to help this team down 65 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: the stretch for what is hopefully going to be a 66 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: playoff push where this offense maybe starts to peak as they. 67 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Say, yeah, you know this. The guy's supremely talented. We've 68 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: all watched it. He's a big playmaker. But it was 69 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: fun just seeing I mean, this is a leader. He 70 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: may not have one of the Seas on his chest 71 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: right now, but this is one of the guys at 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: the locker room follows and just watching the jubilation around them, 73 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: just seeing guys interacting with his media scrum Malie Keith, 74 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: Nate Hobbs, Bo Melton when they were walking in together. 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody had a pretty good laugh about it 76 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: because they've seen obviously the work that he's done, but 77 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: also what Christian means to that football team. This is 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: a guy that has carried himself. I mean there's a 79 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: reason why Michael, as we've said before, I mean he 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: won the Stand Up Guy Award for the Packers from 81 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: the Packers Media Corps in his second year. I mean 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: that type of stuff doesn't happen. I mean, this is 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: the type of dude that gets out in front of it, 84 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: wins losses order. As we learned two weeks ago, TI, 85 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: he's always accountable, Yeah, and people respect that. Now. The 86 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: exciting part about it is, you saw a guy like 87 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: Matthew Golden Flash in Dallas. You're seeing Romeo Dobbs right 88 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: now at the peak of his powers. I mean, this 89 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: guy's playing his best football that he's ever played in 90 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay right now. Adding a receiver like Christian Watson 91 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: back into the mix, it stinks not to have Jaden 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: Reid here for an in definite period of time. But 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: when we were talking all off season, you're not going 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: to keep everybody healthy. If you can get a little 95 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: bit of a jolt, a little bit of a surge 96 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: with a guy like Watson in the second half, it 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: is it's like that. It's almost like that trading deadline 98 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: type of acquisition. What he could add to this football 99 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: team during a stretch run. 100 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely well. The rest of the injury update from the 101 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: return to practice two starting offensive linemen Zach Tom Aaron Banks, 102 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 2: who have both missed really I would say the bulk 103 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: of the last three games for the Packers. Both of 104 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: those guys were back on the practice field. Now, the 105 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: big test for them will be Wednesday, because with the 106 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Packers coming off the bye week Wednesday, this week will 107 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: be the full pads practice, and when we get the 108 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: injury report after Wednesday's practice, which will be the first 109 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: official injury report of the week, that will be a 110 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: telltale sign in terms of where Zach Tom and Aaron 111 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: Banks are. Nate Hobbs was also back on the practice field. 112 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: He exited the Dallas game to be evaluated for a concussion. 113 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 2: So the fact that he was back on the practice field, 114 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: whatever the evaluation was and whatever his situation is, the 115 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: fact that he was back at practice was certainly a 116 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: good sign. Two guys who were not back at practice 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: defensive lineman DeVante Wyatt, rookie offensive lineman Anthony Belton Wyatt 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: with a knee injury, Belton with an ankle, And we 119 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 2: don't really know the extent of where things are with those. 120 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: What we do know about Wyatt is that Matt Lefuur 121 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: said he's weak to week and the fact that and 122 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: obviously things could always change, but the fact that the 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: Packers have not put Wyatt on IR for that minimum 124 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: four games down, I take that as a good sign 125 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: that this really very well could be just a week 126 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: to week thing and we may see him, you know, 127 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: back out there soon enough. So good to see. On balance, 128 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: the Packers are getting healthier. Obviously, there's a long stretch here, 129 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: thirteen regular season games and then hopefully beyond without any 130 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: kind of a break other than kind of the mini 131 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: buy that will happen after the Thanksgiving game in Detroit. 132 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: When you get a weekend off after playing on a 133 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: short week, this is going to be a long haul 134 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: and the Packers want to You obviously want to be 135 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: as healthy as you can be at any time. But 136 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: if this bye week helped to get some guys healthy, 137 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: then as early as it was, then hopefully it was 138 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: worth it well. 139 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: And you hope too that there were some guys that 140 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: were able to take a little bit of a breather 141 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: because of that buye. When you think about them being 142 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: pretty cautious with Aaron Banks in particular, you know, dealing 143 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: with the groin injury and having one earlier that was 144 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: somewhat different. Packers want to get these guys out there, 145 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: and not just for a game, but for the season. Yeah, 146 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: and while you know, Zach Tom was talking to I 147 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: think Jason Wilde in the locker room on Monday and mention, 148 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably gonna be some pain tolerance involved 149 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: with this. This isn't something that he's necessarily just going 150 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: to quote unquote heel up from, but it's learning how 151 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: to manage it and how to use his body to 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: get through this because the Packers need him man. And again, 153 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: one of the questions that came up an insider inbox was, 154 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, if you looked at it on balance, who's 155 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: more important for this Packers team right now? Is that 156 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Zach tom Ors a Devonte White. And again, that's a 157 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: typical question because you're talking about two of the top ten, 158 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: top twelve guys on this entire roster. Sure, but when 159 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: you look at where Zach went down with the oblique 160 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: against Washington, there's a turning point there for the offense, 161 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: and you give credit to guys for stepping up. But 162 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: the problem was, it wasn't just one guy that moved 163 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: into that spot. It was Belton got hurt, Darien Kinnard 164 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: was in and out. I mean, there's just so many 165 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: dominoes that happened there. In addition to the fact that 166 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Zach's one of the very best at what he does 167 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: at that position. So more than anything, people ask, what 168 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: do you want to see? Cleaned up penalties, health, all this. 169 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: I just want to see the preferred starting five. Yeah, 170 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: for the offensive line, or at least what it's going 171 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: to be throughout the rest of the season. Once you 172 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: get that in place, I feel like that shores up 173 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: the run game, It shores up some of the penalties 174 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Hopefully it allows the Packers to 175 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: really be as explosive as we thought they could be. 176 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: They showed signs of it. They don't tie that game 177 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: in Dallas if not for the offense performing the way 178 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: that it did. Right, But can you do it now 179 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: against the team and we'll preview it on Thursday, But 180 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: a team against like the Cincinnati Bengals, who are really 181 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: up against it right now, that's where Green Bay needs 182 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: to start asserting itself. 183 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a struggling Cincinnati Bengals team. As you said, 184 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 2: we'll dive into more of the details about the Bengals 185 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: on our next show later this week. But the big 186 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: question right now hover in Cincinnati is Zach Taylor, the 187 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: head coach, going to make a change at quarterback. Jake 188 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: Browning has been the replacement for the injured Joe Burrow, 189 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: But since taking over for Joe Burrow, Jake Browning has 190 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: thrown eight interceptions, including three of them against the Detroit 191 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: Lions this past Sunday, when the Bengals, playing at home, 192 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: fell into a huge hole. They got some points late 193 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: in the game in the fourth quarter, but you know, 194 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: at some point you wonder you had the Lions figured 195 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: they had this game wrapped up, right, because they had 196 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: such a big lead. So what does Zach Taylor decide 197 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: to do. I think the rock in a hard place 198 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: that he's in is that you look at his other options, 199 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: Cincinnati's other options at quarterback. You have Brett Rippin on 200 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: the active roster, you have Mike White and the former 201 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: Packers Sean Clifford on the practice squad. The problem for 202 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor is all three of those other options did 203 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: not arrive in Cincinnati until the end of training camp 204 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: or later. So if you're going to make a change 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: and move on from Browning and give somebody else a shot, 206 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: It's not quite the Malik Willis situation last year that 207 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: the Packers are in, but it's awfully close where somebody 208 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: kind of just got there and is just learning the 209 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: offense and kind of getting their feed under them in 210 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's system, and then you're gonna throw them out 211 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: there against the Green Bay Packers at lambeau Field. It's 212 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: a tough spot for Zach Taylor to be and he 213 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: says he's gonna announce on Wednesday, when the Bengals begin 214 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: their practice week to get ready to come to Green Bay. 215 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: He's gonna make the quarterback announcement then. But he doesn't 216 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: have a lot of good options right now. 217 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: No, And I think the prudent move, if I'm being 218 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: completely honest with you, would be to stick with Browning 219 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: because I think so too. But he's been there for years. 220 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't just like, Okay, well they signed 221 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: a guy in the off season, they went, they threw 222 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: him out there, and he's not doing Jake Browning has 223 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: been the number two to Joe Burrow in all of 224 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: these situations when Burrow has been injured. Right I look 225 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: at that entire offense right now as being in flux. 226 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: They've had a lot of injuries on the offensive line. 227 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Former Packer Lucas Patrick has been on injured reserve with 228 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: an injury. I mean, they signed Dalton Reisner at the 229 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: start of the season. Chase brown right now is averaging 230 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: two and a half yards per carry. You saw those 231 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: statistics through the first two or three weeks of the 232 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: season where he had negative yards rushing before contact. Yeah, 233 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: and it wasn't just by like one, it was like 234 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: by fifty. That entire offense outside of the receiver position 235 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: has been in flux. And the other thing I would 236 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: say too, is that, with all due respect to Brett 237 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: Brett Rippon, when he came into Green Bay two years ago, 238 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: it didn't go very well. 239 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: No, he did not look good, and that was not 240 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: the same Packers defense then that he would be facing 241 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: this time. 242 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it was one of the more dominant victories 243 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: in the Mattlafloor era. So Browning's the guy that you 244 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: committed yourself to, So it would be somewhat quizzical to 245 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: me if they decided to make that switch. Now we'll 246 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: see what happens. But to your other point, Mike White 247 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: and Sean Clifford both got there after the injury to Burrow, 248 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: So in that regard, it really does come down to 249 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: is it Browning is it Rippin? And if it is 250 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: that guy, can you protect him. 251 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Rippin didn't show up until the last week 252 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: of August, right from what I understand. So all right, well, 253 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: I do want to take kind of a big picture 254 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: overview look at where things are in the NFC North 255 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: and across the league. But we'll pay some bills first 256 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: and hear from our sponsors. 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Everybody in the division has played either four 275 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: or five games, and nobody in the division is below 276 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: five hundred. So here we here we go again, as 277 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: they say, for those wondering who's in second place, the 278 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: Packers at two to one on one in the Minnesota 279 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: Vikings at three and two. Minnesota's winning percentage is six hundred. 280 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: The Packers winning percentage is six twenty five. So officially, 281 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: the Packers are in second place for those who care 282 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: about such things. But hey, as we've been talking about 283 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: for the last few weeks now, the Detroit Lions aren't 284 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: going anywhere. The Packers got a big win over Detroit. 285 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: It's the Packers' only division games so far, so it 286 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: was a big one to get and the Packers got it. 287 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: But the Lions are back on top, and quite frankly, 288 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: these last four games, with the Lions chalking up four 289 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: straight victories, they've looked pretty darn good and doing so. 290 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: And it's not just that the Lions are back on 291 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: top offensively, They're back to doing what they do best, right. 292 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they are running the football down team's throats. 293 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Jared Goff is throwing off of that in Amana, Saint 294 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: Brown is getting those ten yard catches to extend first downs. 295 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: They have a very vivid blueprint for how they win 296 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: football games and they're very good at doing it. 297 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 298 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: When you look at the consistency and the teams that 299 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: have been the perennial front runners right now in the NFC, 300 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: it's Detroit and it's Philadelphia, and it's because of their consistency. 301 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: They know their identity, they played that identity and they've 302 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: had success with it. Now. All that being said, I mean, 303 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: they've had very winnable matchups now to Green Bays point, 304 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: they also played the Cleveland Browns. They also could have 305 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: beaten the Cleveland Browns, although they did not get the 306 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: benefit of having them at lambeau Field, but they laid 307 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: the SmackDown Detroit did over the Bears. They go and 308 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: beat a Baltimore Ravens team now that obviously doesn't have 309 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson but is struggling all around. Yes, the precipitous 310 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: fall here of their defense played into that game against 311 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: the Lions Mercy and then the CINCINNTI Bengals don't. I 312 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: couldn't honestly tell you everything that happened in the fourth 313 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: quarter or why the Bengals made that thing closer than 314 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: it was. It seemed like they had some sustained drives. 315 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. 316 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: There was one of the touchdowns was a big, like 317 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: sixty yard touchdown pass to Jamar Chase, where somehow, even 318 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: though the Lions were up by multiple scores, they let 319 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: Chase get behind them and so they hit a big 320 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: touchdown there. They did have a couple of other sustained drives, 321 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: but the Lions I think it built like a twenty 322 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: eight to three lead or something like that. 323 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, seven twenty four does not represent what that game, No, 324 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: absolutely it was not. It was a route. So all 325 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: that being said, the point I want to raise here 326 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: about Detroit, and it goes back to what I said 327 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: after the Packers beat them, that was a pivotal win. 328 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: It was a pivotal win in the NFC North. It 329 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: was a pivotal win in this conference. Because I don't 330 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: think the Lions are going away as far as trying 331 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: to secure that number one seed again after everything that 332 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: happened last year, and for them now, I mean, you 333 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: look at the schedule that they have coming up, Kansas 334 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: City at Kansas City, but the Chiefs are reeling. Tampa 335 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Bay is going to be a tough one. Then they 336 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: get thereby and then they got Minnesota, Washington and Philadelphia. 337 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the Lions took care of business, and if 338 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: they can get through this upcoming stretch on the winning 339 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: side of these next three four games, I mean, they're 340 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: going to be a team to really be feared here 341 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: in the second half. 342 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: Well, in a non Packers weekend of football, it was 343 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: quite the interesting Week five in the NFL because you 344 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: had the Philadelphia Eagles and the Buffalo Bills both take 345 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: their first loss of the season and both lost at home. 346 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Eagles the losses at home this week. 347 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Eagles blowing a fourteen point fourth quarter lead 348 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: at home to the Denver Broncos. And the Buffalo Bills 349 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: losing to a division rival in the New England Patriots 350 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: in prime time. Buffalo losing a home prime time game 351 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: is not something I thought we'd be talking about here 352 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: on the show. The other thing when you look at 353 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: Week five in the NFL, so the Panthers, the Saints, 354 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: the Broncos, as I mentioned, the Titans, and the Commanders 355 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: all erased double digit deficits to come back and post victories. 356 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: Five teams coming back from double digit deficits in one weekend. 357 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 2: In one Sunday of NFL football, it was uh and 358 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: heck and you And then this whole week started with 359 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 2: a banged up San Francisco forty nine Ers team knocking 360 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: off a division rival in the LA Rams on Thursday 361 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: Night football. 362 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: So just just a. 363 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: Really interesting week, but a week that it's typical of 364 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: the NFL, because there is no such thing as a 365 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: typical week in the NFL. That's how this league goes. 366 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the week to nature of it is just 367 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: beyond compare. It is so difficult to stretch wins together. 368 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: It is so difficult to impose your will and not 369 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: be one of those teams that ends up, you know, 370 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: dropping an LA Chargers loss to the Giants that seems 371 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: to have kind of gotten in the Chargers head a 372 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: little bit, in addition to some injuries that they're dealing with, 373 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: particularly in the background or the backfield. But the one 374 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: thing I thought about is I was going through these 375 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: games and I was obviously watching the Thursday night game 376 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: between the forty nine Ers and the Rams that I 377 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: think you've got to give everybody credit on the Kyle 378 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Shanahan Sean McVay coaching treas. When push comes to shove 379 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: and they lose quarterbacks, they find ways to win, and 380 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: that is so difficult to do. I mean, you're looking 381 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: at what's happening right now at Cincinnati and building an 382 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: offense and building game plans and allowing you know, your 383 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: quarterback to have success. Kyle Shanahan's done that with Mac Jones. Obviously, 384 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell has done that time and time again with 385 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and the emergency fill ins that they've had 386 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: in the Vikings, And to Matt Lefluor's credit, he did 387 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: it last year with Milik Willis right. So for the 388 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: San Francisco Fortinires and Is they've brought up to I 389 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: forget who this was in the forty nine ers organization, 390 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: but San Francisco in LA is a sneaky rivalry like 391 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: that has been. It's not bad blood, but I mean 392 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of competitiveness there and a lot 393 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: of forty nine Er wins too over the last few years. 394 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it seems like it seems like that that rivalry, 395 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: that division clash, you know, sort of elevated itself to 396 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: a rivalry when they played each other in the NFC Championship, Yes, 397 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: a rifle of years ago, and that NFC Championship was 398 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: at Sofi Stadium in LA. But every time the forty 399 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: nine Ers play there, the entire stadium is decked out 400 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: and read all the forty nine Ers fans show up 401 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 2: in LA to cheer on their team against the Rams. 402 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: And we saw that again. We saw that again on 403 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football. These teams, the Rams and the Chargers, 404 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: it's like they never actually play home games, you know. 405 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean in the Raiders. What's that Raiders? 406 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raiders are in that same boat now that 407 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: they're not in Oakland anymore. They're in Las Vegas and 408 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: their stadium gets in by everybody else. So here's the 409 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: other thing I want to run by you though. We 410 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: talked about. Okay, so Buffalo and Philadelphia take their first 411 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: losses there. For in one we mentioned that the Lions 412 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: are four and one. But here's the other list, Wes, 413 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: the Colts, the Jaguars, the Buccaneers, and the forty nine ers. 414 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: They are also all four and one. There are seven 415 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: four and one teams across the league right now. I 416 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: don't think you know, you can say, I mean, who 417 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: are the surprises. I don't think anybody would have thought 418 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: at this stage that both the Colts and the Jaguars 419 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: would be four said, and then the next one on 420 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: the list. You wouldn't think the Buccaneers would be there. 421 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: But Baker Mayfield just keeps pulling off this late game 422 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: magic stuff, and for as rough a game as his 423 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: as the Buccaneers defense had against the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle, 424 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: the defense gets the big interception in the last minute 425 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: and sets up the game winning field goal and Tampa 426 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: Bay gets on that long flight home from Seattle with 427 00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: another victory. 428 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a comparison when Baker came out so 429 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: many years ago now between him and Brett Favre, and 430 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: I just think it's held up so well. He is 431 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: that type of quarterback, and obviously Cleveland didn't really have 432 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: the patience with him, but he's blossomed into something special 433 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: and by all accounts, man, he's going to be the 434 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: Buccaneers quarterback here for the foreseeable future. No, is it 435 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: just some stop gap. I mean, this is their guy, 436 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: and it's incredible what he's done to, you know, mount 437 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: that resurgence. But at the same time, what's happening with 438 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: Indianapolis is why I love professional football, because, including myself here, 439 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: everybody left Daniel Jones for dead. Everybody kind of scoffed 440 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: at the signing of Daniel Jones, being like, well, what 441 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: are you doing bringing him in to compete with Anthony Richardson. 442 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: If you're signing him, you're just waving the white flag already. 443 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: I mean, you're just conceding this thing to Richardson. And 444 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: then the guy put together a competitive training camp and 445 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: ultimately gets the nod, and here he is, you know, 446 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: leading this Colts offense. That's actually one of the more 447 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: entertaining football teams in the league right now. 448 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: And if not, and if not for ad and I 449 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: Mitchell losing control of the ball while crossing what would 450 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: have been crossing the goal line for a touchdown against 451 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: the Rams two weeks ago, we'd be talking about the 452 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts as the only five and zero team in 453 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: the NFL, right now, that that one play is the 454 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: difference now. Also, they got a last second victory over 455 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: the Broncos when the whole leverage thing was called on 456 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: the field goal and their kicker got another crack and 457 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: he made it. You know, So there's that too, but 458 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 2: that you know, that's this league. But yeah, you know, 459 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: we watched the Packers and the Colts in a joint 460 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 2: practice in Indianapolis, and then we watched them play a 461 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: preseason game and both teams kind of going into that 462 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 2: preseason game with different goals and everything. But I did 463 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: not leave Indianapolis in the middle of August and come 464 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: back to Green Bay West thinking that that Indianapolis Colts 465 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: team was going to be four and one here in 466 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: early October. 467 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: No, and they've been super impressive. And when you asked 468 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: me the biggest surprise, it is the fact that the 469 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: AFC South has two four and one teams and neither 470 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: of them are Houston. Yeah it, you know, and give 471 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: credit to Liam Cohen and what they've built in Jacksonville. 472 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: And no doubt, you know, not a bad defense that's 473 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: being coordinated down there now by a certain former Packers linebackers. 474 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: Coach coach Campanelli. 475 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: But this is this is what the National Football Leagu's 476 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: all about. Now, you got to sustain it. They're shooting 477 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: stars every season that then flicker and fall. Yeah, so 478 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: it is going to be a battle of what happens. 479 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: But if you if you look at what Kansas City's 480 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: going through right now after the loss to Jacksonville, if you. 481 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: Look at a fourteen point lead on Monday Night football. 482 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: For real, and then you look at you know, Baltimore 483 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: now is going through it. Lamar Jackson dealing with the 484 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, which is just awful for his game and 485 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: the way he wants to play for sure in the mound. 486 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about an historic amount of yardage 487 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: right now that the Ravens are relinquishing defensively, which we 488 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: are not accustomed to over Baltimore over the last twenty 489 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: five yearsicularly during the John Harbough era. They would all 490 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: be dying to be in the position right now that 491 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: the Colts are in, that the Jaguars are in. And 492 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: then you look at a team like the New York 493 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Jets who are zero to five and have not forced 494 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: a turnover yet this season. It is football is a difficult, 495 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: difficult game. So yeah, when you win, when you get 496 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: off to a three plus three in the win column 497 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: through the first month of the season, that's an accomplishment. 498 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, And just I think the best example right now 499 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: in the NFL of how quickly things can turn, and 500 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: we talked about it last week and what we're talking 501 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: about again this week is the Los Angeles Chargers. They 502 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: start out the season three and zero. They look like 503 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: they have everything going for him. They go on the road, 504 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: fly across country to Jersey to play a winless New 505 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: York Giants team that is starting a rookie quarterback for 506 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: the first time, and they drop that one. Then they're 507 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: looking like they're on the verge of bouncing back, jumping 508 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: out to a ten tohing lead against Washington. They're driving 509 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: for a touchdown that's going to put them up seventeen 510 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: to nothing. The receiver makes the catch, fumbles the ball, 511 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: Washington recovers, and the Chargers don't score the rest of 512 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: the game and lose twenty seven to ten. After leading 513 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: ten to nothing and looking like they were going to 514 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: extend that lead. That is how quickly things can turn. Now, 515 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: suddenly the Chargers who two weeks ago were three and 516 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: Oero are now three and two, and everybody's asking where 517 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: is their season headed? Right, So it's a long haul. 518 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: As we say, it's a marathon, it's not a sprint. 519 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 2: There are a ton of games left, All sorts of 520 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: things can happen. All that matters for the Packers right now, 521 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: they got their by they got their rest, hopefully they're 522 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: getting healthy. And now you've got a struggling team coming 523 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 2: into Lambeufield and we'll talk more about them on our neck. 524 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and AFC games uncommon opponents. Non conference games are 525 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: sort of the fast food of this thing, like they're 526 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily that great for you, but you need them occasionally. 527 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: And last year the Packers making the playoffs was built 528 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: a lot on their success against the FCCL. 529 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeap sweeping at all four all four victories. 530 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: So while you want to get you want to win 531 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: in the North. You want to win these NFC games 532 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: when you face the Dallas Cowboys, especially those cross conference 533 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: games or across division games. Excuse me, the Packers have 534 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: to get back because now you look at Cleveland and 535 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: the struggles that they had against everybody else within the division. 536 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: That stuff all comes out in the wash at the 537 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: end of the season. So for the Packers, the only 538 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: thing they can focus on right now is Cincinnati. We'll 539 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: preview it on Thursday, but the Bengals are hurting unit 540 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: and as I wrote an insider Inbox, now is the 541 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: time for the Packers to pounce. 542 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and presumably later in the week we will have 543 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: an answer on Cincinnati's quarterback as we dive into that 544 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: team a little bit more. 545 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: But we'll just make it up. 546 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: We'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscript. 547 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: You'd be sure to follow all of our coverage of 548 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: the team on Packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. 549 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will see you 550 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: next time.