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Speaker 3: Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 4: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 4: Tray McBride.

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Speaker 5: Oh that was nasty right there right swam in the

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Speaker 5: ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: Well, since we're upon the season of change, I have

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Speaker 2: a change that I would like to propose here. Cardinals

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Speaker 2: calculating Danny Surrek maybe a little apprehensive right now. Has

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with anything or anyone related to this

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Speaker 2: show in particular.

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Speaker 4: No, just a Paul saying he's gonna say something.

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Speaker 2: This just I just think would make more sense if

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Speaker 2: we would redefine and or reclassify the term off season.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I mean by that, you're preaching to the choir. Eric,

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Speaker 2: we have preseason, regular season, postseason. There's the hiring season,

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Speaker 2: the firing season, the combine season is coming up. You

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Speaker 2: guys know that very well, free agency season and or

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Speaker 2: the new league years season. There's draft season, OTA's mini

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Speaker 2: camp hence henceforth, and heretofore, schedule release, thank you, Jim A. Mahundro, henceforth,

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Speaker 2: and heretofore. I propose that the only time of year

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Speaker 2: that we use the term off season is between the

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Speaker 2: end of mandatory mini camp and the start of training camp.

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Speaker 3: Who's with me, six weeks between June and July.

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Speaker 4: There's essentially a reason why everybody in this room and

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Speaker 4: even on the other side of the glass basically takes

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Speaker 4: all the vacation that they can take in that window.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, it's not about us. It's just about accuracy. It's

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Speaker 5: always about us. It's about accuracy. The term off season

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Speaker 5: is antiquated and should only be applied late June, first

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Speaker 5: half of July. And you know what, We're gonna change

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Speaker 5: that because the Cardinals are going to the Hall of

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Speaker 5: Fame game that would be late j.

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Speaker 4: Are not breaking news. We do not know that for

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Speaker 4: a fact.

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Speaker 2: And only the first half of July. No late July

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Speaker 2: for ins over there, because you're going to Canton, Ohio,

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Speaker 2: all expenses paid trip to the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 3: Is that your long intro of why we have a

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Speaker 3: Cardinals underground this week because there's no off season.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we could go with the Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: no days off, you know, I mean, he really is.

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Speaker 2: He's our spokesperson, our poster boy for this.

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Speaker 4: Technically, no players players are off right now. If you

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Speaker 4: just said it's not us, I mean, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just talking about the league. Football League doesn't mean there

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Speaker 2: isn't a lot to talk about. There's always something to

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Speaker 4: I do have something I want to bring up real quick,

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Speaker 4: football related, not Cardinal related, not NFL related. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you guys saw this. The University of Colorado

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Speaker 4: has a high level offensive tackle playing under Dion or

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Speaker 4: did he entered the transfer portal?

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Speaker 2: And I did see that.

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Speaker 4: The Buffaloes were a little disappointed. But okay, I've.

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Speaker 2: Never heard of him before, but it Jordan's okay.

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Speaker 4: So apparently he announced this intro of the transfer portal

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Speaker 4: with the video with the cool like video. What happened though,

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Speaker 4: was he had gone to the video graphics department at

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Speaker 4: told them it was because he wanted to announce he

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Speaker 4: was staying at the school, and then after they gave

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Speaker 4: him the video that he was going into the transfer portal.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking bait and switch. Is that what we're saying?

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Speaker 4: Sounds like it.

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Speaker 2: He went in and they advertised the pickup truck, but

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Speaker 2: then when you got into the dealership they sold them

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Speaker 2: that what happened here? I mean, wow, all right, well

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Speaker 2: you know what sleeves are up. It's it's hand to

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Speaker 4: Was it not also true? I mean, I tip the

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Speaker 2: By the way, that may or may not be a

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Speaker 2: forward tas Danny, We're going to update the power pole

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Speaker 2: of Incompetence with a brand new pole a little bit

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Speaker 2: later if we have time for it. No, it just

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Speaker 2: it's going to take a back burner this week. We're

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Speaker 2: going to debut for twenty twenty six the power Pole

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Speaker 2: of sports figures were sick and tired of, and that'll

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't.

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Speaker 4: You might have somebody to throw on there, right Dan, possibly,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I've got more.

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Speaker 3: Than one person there, But if I want to keep

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, you know you shouldn't bring up Craig

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Speaker 2: Ree a little like that. That's terrible. Robert's Robert. It's

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Speaker 2: a party wave. That's what surfer say, party party wave.

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Speaker 2: Everyone jump on. What am I looking for here? I

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Speaker 2: have no idea. Here we go. I just feel more

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Speaker 2: important when I'm flipping through papers right here. But it

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Speaker 2: says right on the top of the front page coaching search. Idiot,

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Speaker 2: this is the Ron Burgundy moment. Read the prompter. Let's

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Speaker 2: go to the coaching search. Let's see how many names

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Speaker 2: do we have here? Darren. I'm kind of do we

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Speaker 2: have a Baker's dozen yet? Or are we still at

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Speaker 2: a dozen?

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Speaker 4: I think we just got to twelve today. Okay, I

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Speaker 4: All that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna name names. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome to nag you want me to name I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Can rip through him here. You probably have a better

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Speaker 2: order than I do mine, sort of like scattershow there's

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Speaker 4: Obviously, reportedly they Jesse Mintor, the Chargers defensive coordinator, popped

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Speaker 4: up actually before we recorded this today. On Tuesday, Jim

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Speaker 4: Harbaugh obviously came up. John Harbaugh, my bad, one of

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Speaker 4: those Harba's UK News reportedly ended up speaking with him

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Speaker 4: information about who they he might actually want to interview with. Fully,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure exactly how that goes. And then the

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Speaker 4: other names Patriots passing game coordinator Thomas Brown, Packer's defensive

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Speaker 4: know well around here, Seahawks offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak, Rams

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator Mike Lafloor, former Falcons head coach Rahie Morris,

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Speaker 4: Chiefs offensive cord In Nagy, forty nine Ers defensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: Anthony Weaver.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, where do you want to start, Danny? Any

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Speaker 2: name there jump off the list? Any anyone moved the

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Speaker 2: meter that you want to talk about? First and foremost,

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Speaker 2: I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To continue what I said before of wanting to keep

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Speaker 3: my job, so I'm going to keep any names that

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Speaker 3: I have maybe more intrigued than others to myself, but

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Speaker 3: I do think there's something to be said of there

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Speaker 3: is value bringing in a coach that has head coaching experience. Typically,

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Speaker 3: when a team, let's go of a head coach, more

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Speaker 3: times they not than not they swing the pendulum right

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Speaker 3: offensive minded head coach to a defensive minded head coach.

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Speaker 3: And looking at the previous two head coaches that were

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Speaker 3: hired of not having head coaching experience, it wouldn't shock

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Speaker 3: me if that's the route the Cardinals go in terms

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Speaker 3: of going opposite of looking at coaches who have head

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Speaker 3: coaching experience, and there's quite a few on this leg

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Speaker 3: by many teams and seeing the potential there. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: there are a few names who definitely intrigued me. But

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Speaker 3: I would not be opposed to a head coach who

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Speaker 4: What's interesting to me at this point and to me

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Speaker 4: it almost feels kind of goofy to get into the

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Speaker 4: And make no mistake, there's a handful of teams that

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Speaker 4: a ton of people. The Titans, the Cardinals. All those

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Speaker 4: are reported names. The Cardinals have not officially said anything.

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Speaker 4: Other teams have officially said some things. The Titans have

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Speaker 4: I think they're up to double digits now, including Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Gannon was one of their potential interviews in terms of

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Speaker 4: now at this current part of the sequence is there's

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Speaker 4: you guys can correct me if I'm wrong to me,

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Speaker 4: it feels like John Harbaugh's kind of got to pick

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Speaker 2: Maybe Lynch Pin, if you will, it feels like it.

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Speaker 4: Although if he gets to the point where he tells

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Speaker 4: then maybe something can happen before he officially picks a place.

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Speaker 2: But to Danny's point, let's see here, guys on the

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Speaker 2: list that the Cardinals have connected with with head coaching experience,

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Speaker 2: Matt Naggie, Raheem Morris, Robert sala Vance, Joseph once upon

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Speaker 2: of course John Harbaughs. So Matt Naggie had a couple

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Speaker 2: are those coaches within the division. So if you're talking about, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's eliminate some of the learning curve of first time

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Speaker 2: someone who knows the division really well, that's a bonus.

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Speaker 2: It's not a deal breaker. It's not something that maybe

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Speaker 2: I put in the top five in terms of qualities.

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Speaker 2: I was, but I think it's attractive.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Didn't mean to cut you off, Paul. I

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Speaker 4: would just say on that regard, I don't I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's it's a deal breaker either way.

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Speaker 4: I do think it's interesting that on the list of

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Speaker 4: the people you want to talk to, you've made sure

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Speaker 4: that's at least one representative from every other team in

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Speaker 2: True, true, Clint Kubiak, Seattle so.

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Speaker 4: White, who you want to talk to?

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Speaker 3: The news coming down that Mike Tomlin is parting ways

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Speaker 3: else it's like a Sean Payton deal where it's going

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Speaker 4: You know, It's funny. I'm one hundred percent with Danny,

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Speaker 2: If I'm going to redefine off season, then you know

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Speaker 2: That's exactly why I'm cue. He's caffeinated, highly caffeinated. That's

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Speaker 2: Especially since it's only a three win season for your strillian,

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Speaker 4: he's leaning one way or the other. But I don't

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Speaker 4: think he wants to close any doors. And part of

436
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 4: that is what you were just talking about, and that

437
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 4: would be smart and the other thing too right now,

438
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Speaker 4: because there might eventually be some deadlines obviously when we

439
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Speaker 4: get to the new league year and what Danny was

440
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Speaker 4: just talking about. But right now, they got to get

441
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Speaker 4: a coach. They got to get a coach, and they

442
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 4: got to figure out what direction the whole ship's going

443
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 4: to go in before you start worrying about which deck

444
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Speaker 4: chair goes where. So I think I think that's completely

445
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Speaker 4: on the back burner until they figure the coaching part out,

446
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 4: and you know, it's going to make for a fascinating offseason.

447
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 4: It certainly will, because again quarterback becomes the most important position,

448
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: not only with this team, but as we just said,

449
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 4: as you brought up the Steelers, you know, the Steelers

450
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 4: are a great example. Somebody said that you know, hey,

451
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: that's look at that job like it's so stable and

452
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 4: you can go there. But what if the Steelers have

453
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 4: gotten to the point where it's like, Okay, we're treading

454
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: waters way too well and the only way to really

455
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 4: get better is to really blow it up and start

456
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Speaker 4: And you might have a five win season next year

457
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 4: with the Steelers. But that's okay, because this is this

458
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 4: reset is probably long overdue. Now they could end up

459
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Speaker 4: lucking out and getting somebody later in the first round,

460
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Speaker 4: like a Ben Roethlisberger that people aren't expecting. But who knows.

461
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers have been good enough that they haven't

462
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: been in the spot to get that franchise quarterback, right.

463
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Speaker 2: They tried with Kenny Pickett and obviously that didn't work

464
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: a couple of year years ago. So you know, anybody

465
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: anybody reporting anything with my hot take hashtag uven Mitt

466
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: on the Lincoln Riley being hired to work with Kyler,

467
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: reuniting those.

468
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Speaker 3: Two from when you were talking really highly about DTR

469
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Since he's going to the UFL,

470
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Speaker 3: that's where I thought we were going with hot take.

471
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Speaker 2: Well, that was in the context of the fifth round

472
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: Danny just the fifth ride, I was in favor of

473
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Speaker 2: taking dtr over Clayton Tune.

474
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Speaker 3: Let's let's go the ul.

475
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Speaker 2: Let's clarify at that point.

476
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Speaker 4: I'm just excited for the first tweet that I have

477
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Speaker 4: not gotten yet, where they exclaim how the Cardinals are

478
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Speaker 4: going to hire John Harbaugh as the head coach and

479
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Speaker 4: get Mike McDaniels the OC and Mike Tomlin is the DC,

480
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Speaker 4: and let's just roll with that because I know that's coming.

481
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think here if this was a stronger draft,

482
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Speaker 2: but even I can't get away with the whole draft. Moniker,

483
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Speaker 2: let there be a third QB, since the Cardinals are

484
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Speaker 2: drafting third, you know, let the I mean other than

485
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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza, anybody who saw Dante more in his last

486
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: game in the playoff. He is not the number two

487
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 2: pick in this draft.

488
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Speaker 4: First, we don't want you recycling.

489
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: Exactly stuff, right, We got to innovate. You're absolutely right, Okay,

490
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: So anything else about any of the other names on here,

491
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Speaker 2: anyone you know for this purposes of today, any other uh,

492
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, notes, quotes, anecdotes about any of these

493
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: candidates that are on this list.

494
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Speaker 3: I want to expect a coach announcement to be made

495
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: anytime soon, especially when you're looking at the amount of

496
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: coaches on this list who are coaching in the playoffs.

497
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: This is going to take time, especially with so many

498
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: other teams with head coach openings and the amount of

499
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 3: candidates that are interviewing at multiple spots. I could be wrong.

500
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: Doesn't happen often, but it does happen time to time.

501
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: I don't expect the announcement to come in the next

502
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: week or so. I mean, they've got a lot of

503
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Speaker 3: names to get through.

504
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Speaker 4: Okay, the Super Bowl is the first week of February,

505
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Speaker 4: and generally the NFL would prefer that teams not announce

506
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 4: coaches during Super Week. It doesn't always happen. It doesn't.

507
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: It doesn't work that way. Okay, So what are we talking?

508
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: Two weeks until then? Two and a half weeks? Whatever

509
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 4: it is? Numbers, there's nine openings. How many coaching jobs

510
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: are taken by the time we get to the beginning

511
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Speaker 4: of Super Bowl Week?

512
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Speaker 2: You know the under the radar name that's hot Jesse Minter.

513
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: This is before the Pittsburgh Steelers became open and available.

514
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: All eight teams request an interview with the Chargers defensive Coordaily,

515
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: I didn't know that Jesse Minterer according to reports, and

516
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 2: there's a lot of parallels. He's been linked to the

517
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: success Mike McDonald has in Seattle because he ran the

518
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: defense when Michigan won the National Championship. After McDonald left

519
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: with Michigan, and now he's come to the Chargers. The

520
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: last couple of years NFL experience under Jim Harbaugh, they've

521
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Speaker 2: made the playoffs a couple of years in a row.

522
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: By the way, Dan Graziano ESPN dot Com has an

523
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: article up in the last twenty four hours where he

524
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: predicts an early prediction the next head coach for every team.

525
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: For the Arizona Cardinals, Clint Kubiak says, Dan Graziano blah

526
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: blah more blah says Cardinals need to be thinking about

527
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: finding a young star head coach to compete in a

528
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: division in which there's Mike McDonald, Kyle Shan and Sean McVay,

529
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Kubiak knows the division. So there

530
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: you go. There's that for what it's worth. Once again,

531
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Speaker 2: speculation season. Now it is time for getting culture. Uh

532
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: Danny will segue.

533
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: To here getting cultured with Danny. It is not just

534
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: directed at.

535
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: Pulk Am, I the default uncultured philistine around here.

536
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited.

537
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: Now I am.

538
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: On social media and consume more pop culture than both

539
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: of you combined.

540
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, what go?

541
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep getting cultured in sporadically throughout the off season.

542
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 4: You know it's it's the one segment that has lasted.

543
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: I mean, why is guy automatically ends and winning behavior.

544
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: Has been Do you find that coincidental?

545
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: No?

546
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 4: I I.

547
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: Don't tread Lightley, Dearren, Here we go, tread Lightley.

548
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was.

549
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: Here we go.

550
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: Okay, first on our list brooks kep guys coming back

551
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 3: to the PGA Tour after leaving for Live in twenty

552
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: twenty two.

553
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: Wait, I have to add him to that list I

554
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier.

555
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: I keep going, Oh, can you multitask on that Samsung?

556
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: Here we go?

557
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

558
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: It's wait, can I name they? Could I name the

559
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: It is Adroid? It is Adroid. I don't want to

560
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: violate any partnership rules. Go ahead, Danny.

561
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: His first tournament back will be the end of January.

562
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: As tour is about to pick back up. There are

563
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: some penalties though coming back, a five million dollar charitable

564
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: donation will be made. Kopka will not be eligible for

565
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six FedEx Cup bonuses or tour exy for

566
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: five years, and it's a potential lost earnings of one

567
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars.

568
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: But on the plus side, he doesn't have to hang

569
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 4: out with Phil Nicholson anymore.

570
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: That's true, or Bryson to Shamba.

571
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: The plus side is in he already up two hundred

572
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: million for joining Live. Do the math, he's still up

573
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: nine figures.

574
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: Yes, but he is making his return with some penalties,

575
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: but there is excitement in the golf world for that.

576
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he won't be missing any meals.

577
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: Some more sports news for baseball fans, Kansas City Royals

578
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: are moving in their fences. Did either of you see this?

579
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: You did not? The look on your face, Darin, So,

580
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: center field is going to stay at four hundred and

581
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: ten feet. Their power alleys, though, are going to come

582
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: in from three hundred and eighty nine feet to three

583
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine feet, so difference of ten feet

584
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: there and their fence is going to be shortened. From

585
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: ten feet to eight and a half. And then I

586
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: saw I think in one section they're going to add

587
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: some more fancy so they're trying to have some more

588
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: home runs and Diamondbacks play in Kansas City in September.

589
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: First of all, all every single major league ballpark should

590
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: have outfield fences where a guy can leap over and

591
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: steal a home run. That should be an absolute major league.

592
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: Rule you could take. I mean, if you're not a

593
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: fan of the Green Monster.

594
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: Okay, actually I do like the Green Monster self, but

595
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: that's that. Yeah, well we're gonna grandfather that in since

596
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: it's from nineteen twelve.

597
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: If you can't clear them, lower them. Is that what

598
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: you're saying. If you can't groom enough players to hit

599
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: enough home runs, well, then change the dimensions of your park.

600
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: Tigers did that a few years ago.

601
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: That's true.

602
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, and then.

603
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: They started making the playoffs.

604
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: So and then I wonder, also, is it because free

605
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: agents are saying, you know what, I'd rather not play

606
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: in Death Valley where you know, I hit a four

607
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: hundred footer and it goes to the warning tracks. So

608
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna move in those fences?

609
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: You know as soon as baseball started calling pass interference

610
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: more often, we knew the offenses were going to get

611
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: all the benefits.

612
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: Well, we have discussions like this. It's so interesting to me,

613
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: as someone who's spent majority of my career really focusing

614
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: on football covering some other sports, just how different baseball

615
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: is in so many instances. I mean, first of all,

616
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: the fully guaranteed contracts, but two, the fact that every

617
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: ballpark gets to decide on their own dimensions and create

618
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: your own sort of advantage. Like can you imagine I

619
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: do too, But could you imagine that in any other sport?

620
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 4: No, you can't. I was going to say something, but

621
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: I also don't want to get fired, but I do.

622
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: I love like you mentioned the Green Monster, Like, I

623
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: think that's totally cool. Now I've been to Fenway. It

624
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: was a bucket list kind of thing. Being in your seats,

625
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: which aren't great because they're older. I've been there a

626
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: couple of times, but being in the outside part of

627
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: the ballpark is totally cool. Now, when you go on

628
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: the concourses and stuff, it's not so great. It's actually

629
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: pretty lousy and old, and I'm pretty sure that there

630
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: weren't a lot of six y three people walking around

631
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: in nineteen twelve, and I can tell when you're walking

632
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: around the concourse. But I love the fact that baseball

633
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 4: parks can kind of do like I'm still upset Houston

634
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: took out the Hill and dead center field.

635
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: Houston Astros. Baseball has a lot of bigger problems.

636
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: That's seating for one.

637
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 2: Okay, what else, Dandy, here we go getting culture.

638
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: Did either of you watch the Golden Globes. No, I

639
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: will admit I did turn off about halfway through. I

640
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: turned off that Sunday night playoff game between the Chargers

641
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: and the Patriots because it was boring. And then I

642
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: did turn on the back half of the Golden Holobes.

643
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: So there were some cultural moments. It's the first major

644
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: award ceremony of awards season for both TV and movie.

645
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: Since you look puzzled, Paul So, Timothy Shallamy and Kylie Jenner,

646
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: who have actually been dating for three years, have been

647
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: more public with their relationship this awards season.

648
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: He's so like hard launch.

649
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: No, not a hard launch, because people know that they've

650
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: been dating. But he's been thanking her. He's been winning

651
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: some awards for Marty Supreme, which I have not seen

652
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: the Ping Pong movie. So he's been winning some awards

653
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: and thanking her, and she's been getting a lot of attention.

654
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: He didn't win for he's been getting a lot of

655
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: attention because she'd never got any before.

656
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: Yes, he didn't win for the Bob Dylan movie, but

657
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: he won for Marty Supreme.

658
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: He's been winning some awards. Yes, don't take it out

659
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: of me. I'm not a voting member. It was a

660
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: big night for the Allen family as Josh Allen and

661
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: the Bills beat the Jags, and his wife, Hayley Steinfeld,

662
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: was an award presenter at the Golden Globes and Sinners

663
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: the movie she was part of took home a few awards,

664
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: So big night for them, and then this one. I

665
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: was really excited to make sure you guys are aware

666
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: that Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez have buried the hatchet

667
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: and had a really cute photo together at the Golden Globes.

668
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: He both know the deep lore, right, you know the backstory.

669
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: Let me refresh your memory. So both Miley Cyrus and

670
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: Selena Gomez dated Nick Jonas of the Jonas Problems during their.

671
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: Peak back to back, like you've brought this up one.

672
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: So Miley Cyrus and Nick Jonas dated from like two

673
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, and then Selena

674
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: Gomez from two thousand and eight to twenty ten. Now,

675
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: mind you, this was peak of all of their careers,

676
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: Disney Channel shows, the movies, the concerts. Yes, and Miley

677
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 3: and her friends would make passive aggressive YouTube videos about

678
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 3: Selena Gomez and her bff Demi Lovado who was also

679
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: in this Disney realm Danning the older brother Joe Jonas.

680
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: First of all, I want to take that clip, and

681
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 4: then I want to ask Paul in nineteen ninety five,

682
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 4: could you imagine anybody saying that actual sentence? They were

683
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: making passive aggressive you tube.

684
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: You have to understand their TV shows would have crossover

685
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: episodes and they would not interact with each other. There

686
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: was a lot of tension of beef between these teenagers.

687
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: So anyway, that ship has sailed. They have officially buried

688
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: the hashit at some point in twenty twenty five, but

689
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: they took a photo together which a lot of people

690
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: were really happy about at the Golden Globes and you

691
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: both have been cultured. You're welcome. We went past the

692
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: music time, which I think is the first time everybody.

693
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: Grows up, Danny, everybody grows up. Even who was it?

694
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: Miley Cyrus, Miiley Cyrus and Selena Gomez and Demi Levado

695
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: with Nick Jonas and Joe Jonas.

696
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: If your career sinks low enough, then you know, you

697
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: go back your men fences and then get it.

698
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 4: And then they go on dances with a star.

699
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: There you go. Okay? Uh was Trey McBride one of

700
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: the presenters. Did he make a cameo of any sort?

701
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: He did not.

702
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 4: Was Danny the voter on that one?

703
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: I can tell you if I were, it would have

704
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: been unanimous?

705
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: Darren, Are we ever going to find out the identity

706
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: of the vote?

707
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: You know? It's interesting. I don't think there's any rule

708
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 4: that says they can't out themselves, but I don't think

709
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: there's anything that puts it out there. I want to

710
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 4: say that the Baseball Writers of America that do the

711
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame voting for Baseball, I think they made

712
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: a rule a couple of years ago that they do

713
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 4: make a public but the AP voters are not public.

714
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 4: I think you can get a list of who is

715
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: on a who does it? I'm not one hundred percent

716
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 4: sure about that, But we won't know who voted, who

717
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: didn't vote, who took George Kittle, who played eleven games

718
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: and was injured and had I don't know a million

719
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: less catches than Trey McBride, and I look, I think

720
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: George Kittle is a great football player, but there's no

721
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: way he should have.

722
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: Been There were games where Kittle also was not a

723
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: focal point in the offense. Now, I understand that they

724
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: have Christian McCaffrey and they were heard, and you don't

725
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: have to be the focal point of every game to

726
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: be voted first team All Pro. But what Trey McBride

727
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: did for this offense, weeke in and week out, regardless

728
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: of the score, regardless of whether or not this team

729
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 3: had been eliminated for the playoffs, regardless of how many

730
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: receivers they had out there, how many offensive linemen were hurt.

731
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: That's impressive. I don't love the fact that it was

732
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: one vote, shy of unanimous for him to be First

733
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: Team All Pro.

734
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: But there are big things and little things. The big

735
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: thing is he's first Team All Yes.

736
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: And it's a little thing that is, you.

737
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: Know, it shouldn't overshadow the honor itself, like it has

738
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: been getting too much attention. I mean even Shannon Sharp

739
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: went off on his rant Hall of Fame tight end

740
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: on his podcast, and I get it, and it's legitimate

741
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: his rant and his angst, but for him to say

742
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: it ruins everything because it's not unanimous, that's way too

743
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: far in my opinion.

744
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: This is not a Hall of Fame vote.

745
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: It's worth a mention that, Okay, it wasn't unanimous. Yes,

746
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: this guy made a mistake, him or her, whoever the

747
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: voter was. I don't know it was, you know, derelict

748
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: of duty, whatever you want to say. But let's not

749
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: forget he's first team All Pro. He had seventy more

750
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: catches or so than George Kittle. The next step, and

751
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: I mentioned this on Red Sea Report Coaching Up, you

752
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: know Rob Frederickson and Craig Grielow, I said, the next

753
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: step is for Trey McBride to get mentioned among the greats.

754
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen over the weekend talking about the play of

755
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: the tight end and said, you know what, and he mentioned,

756
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: you know, you had to be an elite tight end

757
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: like a George Kittle or Travis Kelcey. So Now the

758
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: next step is for him to be in the mainstream

759
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: his name like that, especially someone like Greg Olsen who

760
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: played the position you'd like to hear him include Trey's

761
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: name going.

762
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: Forward, similar to a Pro Bowl vote. To a certain extent,

763
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: I think part of that just comes with winning.

764
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: Yea.

765
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: And these are announcers, right, and they keep tabs on

766
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: the rest of the league and especially the teams that

767
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: they are calling, right the.

768
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 4: Games announcers are you talking.

769
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: About, like Greg right? I think I think to a

770
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: certain extent, that just comes with the team winning and

771
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: having more eyeballs on them. Now, similar to what we've

772
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: talked about in the last couple of weeks on this podcast,

773
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: if McBride can be consistent and the type of production

774
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: he was generating and the sense of urgency and the

775
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: fire he was playing with, then I think, regardless of

776
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: the record of this team, his name will be cemented.

777
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: And that really is the next step in his career,

778
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: because you know, we're going to be kicking this around

779
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: all off season and going into training camp. All right,

780
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: what's next for Trey McBride. Four years in the league,

781
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: two time Pro Bowler, first team All Pro, record setting

782
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: tight end, NFL records, team records, what's next postseason success?

783
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: That notoriety doing it in big games on the big stage.

784
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: For me, and this is this is something that is important.

785
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: If the Cardinals are doing this right, and even if

786
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: Trey McBride is doing this right, he doesn't come close

787
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: to one hundred twenty six catches again, because you, in theory,

788
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: are gonna have Michael Wilson, You're in theory, gonna have

789
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison stepping up. You're in theory gonna find that

790
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: run game again, which absolutely disappeared.

791
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: There won't be fifty seven pass attempts in a game.

792
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: You know, hopefully Trey McBride isn't getting to one hundred

793
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: and twenty six catches now. Could he get one hundred

794
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: a year? Absolutely, and he's got seventeen games, yeah, and

795
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: he's that good. But that's what you ultimately want to see,

796
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: is you want to see him all succeed. You want

797
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: to see, whether it's Michael Wilson or Marvin Harrison, you

798
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: want one of the other ones to be a thousand

799
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: yard receiver to go with McBride, and then the other

800
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: one getting you eight hundred yards and who knows, maybe

801
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: maybe Eventually you can get to a high level point

802
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: where all three of them get a thousand yards in

803
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: a season, like An Kwan and Larry and Steve Breston

804
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: did that one year, although one of the reasons those

805
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: guys all got one thousand yards that year is because

806
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: the running game was nowhere most of the season, and

807
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: so there's usually a give and take. So look, I

808
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: don't think there's any question Trey McBride is really good.

809
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 4: And now George Kittle might miss most of next year

810
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: with a torn achilles, and so there's one guy. Now

811
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: Tucker Craft was having I think Tucker Craft would have

812
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: been in the mix for all Pro with Trey had

813
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: he stayed healthy. He got hurt. Brock Bauers was hurt

814
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 4: almost all year. There's gonna there's other tight ends that

815
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: are gonna be really good.

816
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: No doubt. And look, I think the other thing needs

817
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: to be said about Trey McBride is is the degree

818
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: of difficulty. Right, Houston had a bunch of cloud coverages

819
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: designed around eighty five. The next week, Cincinnati doubled him,

820
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: according to Jacoby Brissett, and and they shaded some coverage

821
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 2: towards Michael Wilson. I mean, the last month or two,

822
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: the primary focus of every defensive game plan times ten

823
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: was to stop Trey McBride, and he was still ridiculously

824
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: productive and competitive and found a way to get open

825
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: and get yards and he even got his hurdle in

826
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: the last game and you know, so, I mean, you know, finally,

827
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: come on, he got it all in there. So to

828
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: your point, Darren, if Michael Wilson has that sustainability, and

829
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: I believe he does, to me, he's pooking a cool light.

830
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: And then Marvin Arrison Junior, if you can unlock and

831
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: maximize his talents and skill set, then then maybe that

832
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: is you know, what helps Tray McBride. He won't get

833
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: as many targets, but but teams won't be able to

834
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: as easily devote as much attention to stopping him, hopefully

835
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: by design. But I'm curious to see what the offense

836
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: looks like. A. It's based on the new coaching staff, obviously,

837
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: but B if you're gonna design an offense around your

838
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: best weapons, this would seem to be a pass first

839
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: offense much more than a run first offense, which we

840
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: saw in twenty three and twenty four, right, I mean,

841
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: there could be a totally new identity, and not just

842
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: because of the coaching, but because of the emergence of

843
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson. And then what you hope is still considerable

844
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: upside a Marvern Harrison junior.

845
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: We could see that shift in the identity. I mean,

846
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna need an offensive line that is stellar one

847
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: way or the other, but that is something you're gonna

848
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: have to wait to be decided until you have a

849
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: head coach, the offensive coordinator. What are you going to

850
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: do at quarterback?

851
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 5: Right?

852
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: A lot of those decisions, but there's good argument of

853
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: being a pass first offense if things mostly stay the same.

854
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: Right now, it has been the year of the tight

855
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: end a lot in the division, has it not, as

856
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: Sean McVeigh went to the tight end quite a bit,

857
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: George Kittle, Trey McBride, and then you saw what Seattle

858
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: was able to do. They got good production out of

859
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: the tight end. Well.

860
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: San Francisco even when the games Kittle missed. I forget

861
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 4: who the kid's name was.

862
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: But Tongus, Yeah, Jake tong you.

863
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: Played pretty well.

864
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: You're telling me that San Francisco had a player who

865
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: nobody really knew about. And when the starter got hurt.

866
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: He shockingly went in and played really well and they

867
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: didn't miss a beat.

868
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: It is remarkable, Colorney, surprise, it is remarkable. And the

869
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: Niners and Seahawks they split. So there's an all NFC

870
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: West Division game on Saturday, and then the best game

871
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: to me Rams at the Bears, and I love it.

872
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: And I think it was Schrager who brought this up.

873
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: First off, you take the Ben Johnson handshake or lack thereof,

874
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: which I thought was unnecessary and beneath the position of

875
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: head coach in the NFL. Didn't like it on any level.

876
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: I don't care what soda rivalry it is. You don't

877
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: do the drive by handshake. I thought it was weak.

878
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: It was weak sauce in all levels. But that's me.

879
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: I just thought it was bad for Ben Johnson and

880
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: for the Bears. But now think about it. Who's best

881
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: friends with Matt Lafleur, Sean McVay, whose little brother is

882
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: on the Rams coaching staff, Mike Lafloor. If the Rams

883
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: have a chance to run it up on good old

884
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, I think it happens. I really could.

885
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: I could see that. Actually I could actually see some

886
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: of the I didn't even think about that, now can they?

887
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: I mean, the Rams aren't exactly playing lights out.

888
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: Right now, No they're not, but they're still winning. It's

889
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: like they peaked in early December. They peaked in the

890
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: third quarter against Seattle on that primetime game was a

891
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: Sunday night, Monday night. Remember, they had blew the fourteen

892
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: point lead in the fourth quarter. But at that point

893
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: they were going to be the number one seed in

894
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: the playoffs and they were the juggernaut.

895
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: I look at these four matchups and I'm I'm excited

896
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: and intrigued by all of them. Buffalo at Denver, San

897
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: Francisco at Seattle, Houston at New England, LA at Chicago.

898
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer, but

899
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: isn't this kind of nice to have a playoff, you know,

900
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: playoff season where we've got four good matchups and none

901
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: of them involved the Kansas City Chiefs. We talked about

902
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: She's fatigue.

903
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one.

904
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 4: See, here's the thing. I get it, But like I'm

905
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: old enough to remember when the Patriots.

906
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: Were always the same, you know, you know what I

907
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: think it's more exciting about for me? Is not so

908
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: much that the Chiefs aren't in it, but the fact that,

909
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: with the exception of Matthew Stafford, none of these quarterbacks

910
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 3: have won a ring.

911
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 4: I know, but I can't. I'm sorry, I can't get

912
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 4: on the I can't root for Sean Payton.

913
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm rooting for him, but I'm saying

914
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: that I am intrigued. See that. That's where I think

915
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: we're different, as I'm able to kind of take a

916
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: step back and almost be more not a true fan,

917
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: but like appreciate good football regardless of whether or not

918
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: there is a team in the NFC West who's playing

919
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 3: really well. I'm not gonna sit here and root for

920
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: San Francisco Arcil or LA by any means, but I

921
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 3: can enjoy good football, all right.

922
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: So I think this is a good segue into my

923
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: power poll of sports figures that I'm done with this time.

924
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: A year ago, it would have been Kansas City in

925
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: the top three spots any combination of Kelsey Mahomes and

926
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: Andy Reid just based on all the commercials. So power

927
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: pools sports figures, I'm done with hashtag Basta Italian for enough.

928
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: This is strictly yours. We are not allowed to add any.

929
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: No, feel free. I mean, like I said, it's a party.

930
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: It's like surfer say party wave. Everyone jump on number

931
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: one and don't at me on this. I don't think

932
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: there's any disputing it's Lane Kevin. We're just done with

933
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin.

934
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: So you're going one. So this is power. He's number one,

935
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 4: number one, So you didn't count down, you counted.

936
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm starting at the top. Okay, Lane Kiffin number one,

937
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: I'm good with that. Number two. I'm just gonna go

938
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 2: Ryan Clark. I just think we're done with Ryan Clark.

939
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm done. I'm done.

940
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: Can I ask what the tipping point was? Or no?

941
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: You're not willing to.

942
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: It's been a slow build. It's been about now we're there.

943
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: We're there. Carl Cheffers, who's gonna have a division? Carl

944
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: Cheffer's just you know, are you getting paid by the flag?

945
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't understand. So you know we're going. Carl Cheffers,

946
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: he of the seventeen Flag game, he had the nineteen

947
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: Flag games. Get ready for a three and a half

948
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: four hour affair in that playoff game. You don't get

949
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: I saw this one.

950
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 4: This is number four.

951
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: The Olympics. Number four Olympics are coming NBC, right, Yes,

952
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: so I think it was Sunday Night Football and I

953
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: did a spit take when I saw Lindsay Vaughn is back.

954
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 2: Oh she's back forty something years old, Lindsay von when's

955
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: the last time Lindsay Vaughn wasn't part of a Winter Olympics.

956
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: I don't upset over that.

957
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you would think every four years, isn't that,

958
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 2: But when she's been there for forty years, then we're

959
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: just tired of it.

960
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: Jeff Lebo.

961
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then courtesy of Danny bringing this up earlier,

962
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: Brooks Kopka will put him there. Actually would put Brooks

963
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: kept on the watch list. I have. I have three

964
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: other names on the watch list. I already mentioned Ben Johnson,

965
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: He's on the watch list, uh Pukakua just because he's

966
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: irritating at this point. And then Sam Levitt. Sam Levitt

967
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: is real close to going from I was watch list.

968
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: I got very tired.

969
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 2: Right next to link.

970
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: I like most of that last I got.

971
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 4: I had a couple of people, but I'm not going

972
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: to bring it up because I don't need to get

973
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: flamed on social media. So I'm going to keep it

974
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 4: to myself.

975
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: Okay, just just let my keyster blown in the window

976
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: by myself. That's good that my fear is the people

977
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: that I bring up.

978
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: It could get back to them.

979
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: And that's that's an ever changing list, similar to the

980
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 3: list of incompetence.

981
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: A little bit yes, a little bit yes, yes, yeah,

982
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: we can just you know, and one person can knock

983
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: another person out. So there you go.

984
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: And I'm shocked that Tyreek Stephenson did not find his

985
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: way onto that list. Has enough time passed from the

986
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: hail Mary.

987
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: I was shocked to see it. Tyrek Stevenson as a

988
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: backhum Now, I thought he was like a really good corner,

989
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: but in that Chicago playoff game he only came in

990
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: for one snap after the starter got hurt and had

991
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: to leave the field. And then Tyrek Stevens, I'm like, okay,

992
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: so there's that. Now Aaron Rodgers on the list, Danny,

993
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you didn't throw Aaron Rodgers on the list

994
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: when you you would vote in favor of I'm just

995
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: over it, all.

996
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: Right, I'm over it. Is there out and his final

997
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: play is a pick sel.

998
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: I was waiting for you to say that I did not.

999
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: Pick the Steelers to win a single game in my

1000
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: picks this year. Maybe that's why I came in third.

1001
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes you just have to stand strong

1002
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: in your values.

1003
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: So what do you believe?

1004
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: It's so? It was in business, it was personal little poisonal.

1005
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: With Aaron previous times the year prior when I kept

1006
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: picking the Steelers or the Jets wherever he was okay,

1007
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: all right?

1008
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: By the way, Darren mentioned earlier reportedly Jonathan Gannon getting

1009
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: an interview scheduled at least for a head coaching interview

1010
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: with Tennessee and then DC interviews with the Cowboys and Commanders.

1011
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 2: So interesting.

1012
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: So if the Commanders want to shout the NFC East,

1013
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: So if.

1014
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: The Commanders hire him, then dan Quinn will have gone

1015
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: from one ex Cardinals head coach to be his OC

1016
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: and decide to get rid of him and bring in

1017
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 4: an ex Cardinals head coach to be his DC.

1018
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 2: That is true. That is true. So there's the latest

1019
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: on that front, ending broken. While we've been on here,

1020
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: anything come up in the coaching search because no, dar

1021
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: are you always on social media, like from sunrise to sunset,

1022
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: from getting up till bedtime, are you always looking for

1023
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: the next rogue report out there? Give us a little

1024
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: bit parts insider that you are way.

1025
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 4: Too much on social media to the point where I

1026
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: doom scroll and it's not good for me.

1027
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 2: Do you? Does your wife make you put your phone

1028
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: in a lock box?

1029
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: No, she doesn't make me. She does complain that I'm

1030
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 4: on it too much, and she does complain when I

1031
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: get in a poor mood when I'm on it. But

1032
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 4: that's neither here nor there.

1033
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: See Danny with your picks, you know, just don't let

1034
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 2: it be so personal. And then Darren on social media,

1035
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: don't let it be so personal, you know what I mean?

1036
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 4: That's uh No, I take everything fish.

1037
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I see feasible, plausible or doable. All right. I

1038
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: think our work is done here on this edition of Cardinals.

1039
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: Do you think so? I mean, you know, I don't know.

1040
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 4: I'm looking at almost through the glass and he looks

1041
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: very bored.

1042
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: That's you know what. Well, there's always something to work on.

1043
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: We'll try and be better next week on Cardinals Underground.

1044
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,160
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