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Speaker 2: How'd you like to be in a car doing one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten miles an hour on a third of

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Speaker 2: a mile oval track with sixteen other cars chasing you,

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Speaker 2: or you're in the middle of the pack. Well, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna find out what that's like for Quinn Trim or

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Speaker 2: Trimmer Motorsports. Down around the bottom of the hour as

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Speaker 2: he joins us to talk about sportsmen modified at the

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Speaker 2: tracks he's racing up and down the Eastern Seaboard and

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Speaker 2: well Wall Stadium in Wall, New Jersey. So Quinn's gonna

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Speaker 2: be coming by to talk about that. He told me

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Speaker 2: that pre interview, one hundred and ten miles an hour

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Speaker 2: just described going down the Jersey turnpipe. Well, I didn't

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Speaker 2: want to say that, Tom, but that is true in

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Speaker 2: a sense. As I was saying it, I said, that's

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Speaker 2: probably a bad way to describe it, but it's the truth.

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Speaker 2: It's the God's ones truth. He told me that the

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Speaker 2: speeds range anywhere from eighty to one hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: miles an hour top to bottom, slow and fast, and

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Speaker 2: it's only a third of a mile. Think about how

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Speaker 2: big a how long a third of a mile is.

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Speaker 2: As soon as you get on the straight, you're back

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Speaker 2: in the corner. And he said, it's well, anyway, he'll

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Speaker 2: be here to talk to us about it. I want

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Speaker 2: to talk to you guys about today's cars. You know,

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Speaker 2: today's cars are not the simple machines they used to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no news flash there, right, You know,

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Speaker 2: everything talks to everything. They're giant computers and there's no

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Speaker 2: news flash there and the and the goofiest things create

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Speaker 2: problems right right. A weak battery you'll create six warning lights.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've had cars that start but they have

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Speaker 2: a weak battery, a marginal battery, and it'll the car

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Speaker 2: will just do some really crazy things because like a

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Speaker 2: desktop computer that's getting less than proper voltage, those vehicle

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Speaker 2: computers go nuts. And it's easy to make a mistake

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Speaker 2: on a On a modern car, you know, you use

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Speaker 2: the correct oil or the incorrect oil, the incorrect oil viscosity.

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Speaker 2: You know, the least you'll do is maybe affect timing

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Speaker 2: chain where the worst case scenario is you'll create a misfire,

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Speaker 2: especially in cold weather, because the engine won't be able

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Speaker 2: as easily as it should, and you'll create a stutter

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Speaker 2: and a miss and you'll be chasing a misfirefault. You

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Speaker 2: can skip a coolant service on a modern vehicle and

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Speaker 2: run cool and longer, but then you run the risk

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Speaker 2: you've got a mess of trouble. You know. The one

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Speaker 2: thing I'm seeing a lot of I think ought to repair.

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Speaker 2: When you think about maintenance and how much should or

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be done, you're seeing a divide between ownership styles.

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Speaker 2: And there's definitely ownership styles now right. Some people lease,

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Speaker 2: some people will buy and trade a car every three

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Speaker 2: You want to avoid the monthly payment. I think, how

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Speaker 2: do you maintain a car? Should you maintain a car?

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Speaker 2: How long should you keep a car? Or probably as

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Speaker 2: much discussed topics in American households and probably around the

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Speaker 2: world as anything else, as the topics of the day,

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Speaker 2: You know, there's three different maintenance strategies. In my mind,

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Speaker 2: she's changed it. Well, I guess you have to change

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Speaker 2: I do it every twelve. Who cares you're going to

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Speaker 2: If you own the vehicle long term, your goal is preservation.

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Speaker 2: And if you've got that older train station car, well,

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Speaker 2: the people that might be going longer on oil changes,

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Speaker 2: it last forever. The train station car concept surprises people,

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Speaker 2: but it's the truth. Short trips are brutal. Condensation builds

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Speaker 2: up moisture content, the oil never really warms up, the

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Speaker 2: battery doesn't recharge completely. The exhaust system rusts from the

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Speaker 2: go somewhere. And then you guys are surprised when the

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Speaker 2: car with forty thousand miles or eighty thousand miles or

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Speaker 2: sixty thousand miles on it has major problems. Mileage doesn't

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Speaker 2: tell the whole story anymore either. Usage matters, and another

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Speaker 2: thing you've got to understand is that modern diagnostics is

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Speaker 2: not guesswork. It can't be. You know, We've been doing

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Speaker 2: this radio show a very long time. I've been in

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Speaker 2: Somebody will say, you know, I spent one thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: they changed XYZ. Did they do a diagnosis, Well, they

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Speaker 2: told me that was bad. But did they do a diagnosis?

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Speaker 2: Did you pay for it? You know why paying for

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Speaker 2: a diagnosis is the right way to go because it

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Speaker 2: may make the mechanic stick their name on it. It

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Speaker 2: forces the mechanic to say, hey, we looked at it,

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Speaker 2: we diagnosed it. It's this, and it ends the conversation

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Speaker 2: when that isn't it. Well, gee, I didn't diagnose it. Well,

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Speaker 2: I paid you for a diagnosis. Oh you did, and

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Speaker 2: there it is on an invoice. Good technicians read, good

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Speaker 2: technicians research, good technicians compare live data the days of

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Speaker 2: and judging by the price of parts and the complexity

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Speaker 2: You know, the car may only fail under certain conditions.

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Speaker 2: The issue may not set up fault code. The manufacturer

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Speaker 2: Wait a car this week that had a parking break

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Speaker 2: pedal assembly fail and we had to put a new

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Speaker 2: pedal assembly went bad. Cars changed, Cars evolved, the procedures changed.

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Speaker 2: The way you do something and the way you think

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Speaker 2: about it has to evolve. No offense intended. But I

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Speaker 2: hate the comment about, well, my dad taught me how

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Speaker 2: And I always come back to and when was that, Well,

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty three, you think that was a while ago?

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Speaker 2: No disrespect again, is your father alive? Is he working?

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Speaker 2: What is he doing? We can't go by sixty year

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Speaker 2: old standard, forty year old standards, twenty year old standards.

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Speaker 2: In order repair yesterday was a long time ago, and

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Speaker 2: how you fixed it yesterday may not be the way

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Speaker 2: you're gonna fix it today. I had a vehicle recently

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Speaker 2: where the internet, according to the customer, they it said

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Speaker 2: the compressor was bad. When I looked at it, the

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Speaker 2: pressures looked strange. The customer was more and more convinced.

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Speaker 2: But I looked at service information. I charged it correctly

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Speaker 2: out to be low refrigerant. Now, her mechanic had told her, hey,

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Speaker 2: it needs a compressor, but it's two thousand dollars. She

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Speaker 2: Take care of the car before it breaks. Don't wait

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Speaker 2: for smoke, don't wait for warning lights, don't wait until

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Speaker 2: You're going to make very expensive decisions emotionally instead of logically.

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Speaker 2: So if you're leasing, if you're owning, if you're trying

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Speaker 2: And if you don't know, talk to your mechanic. Can't

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Speaker 2: talk to your mechanic, you might have the wrong mechanic,

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Speaker 2: And then again, you might just want to be a

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Speaker 2: I'm Ron a Ady and the car doctor. I'll be

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Speaker 2: back right after this. Hey, let's get over and talk

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Speaker 2: to our main man, Micah Michaeh. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hey, Ron. This actually goes right along with what your

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Speaker 3: monologue was going about, and it's about diagnosis and it's

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Speaker 3: about air conditioning because it's that time of year when

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Speaker 3: you want to know that it's working right and you

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Speaker 3: want to make sure that it's checked. And if I

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Speaker 3: remember correctly, you told me it's something you really need

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Speaker 3: to definitely check about every two years or so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good idea, especially if you're an environment

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Speaker 2: I think all AC operates in this environment where moisture

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Speaker 2: is a concern because moisture on the inside, while it

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Speaker 2: won't save the desiccon or the dryer material in the

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Speaker 2: AC system, moisture inside the A system will eventually turn

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Speaker 2: system from the inside out. So it's just a good

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I just had that experience. You know, we

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Speaker 3: had that hot week up here last week, and I'm

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Speaker 3: it's time to test it and make sure everything's blowing right.

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Speaker 3: So I brought the car onto the highway and put

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Speaker 3: it on maximum AC and have a little thermometer that

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Speaker 3: I wish I could get another one that you know,

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Speaker 3: was blowing at about forty five degrees. It was cold,

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Speaker 3: but that's not where it's supposed to be blowing when

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Speaker 3: it's that hot out and you have it on MAXAC.

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Speaker 3: So I had the service coming up, and I brought

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Speaker 3: And they said, well, we'll put a thermometer in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: You know that I don't know. They didn't put that

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Speaker 3: You'll ask you another thing. Ron, I'm kind of curious

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Speaker 2: For that seven grand to get upset. Well, and you

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Speaker 2: whole nine yards. So, Mike, I enjoyed the conversation. As always,

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Speaker 2: you'd be safe up there. Coming up next, what's it

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Speaker 2: I'm running any in the Car Doctor. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: On the city streets, STUDI roads. If you Ridney Ron,

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Speaker 2: Well, we're all going to get in education with our

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Speaker 2: Car Doctor. We've you know, we we've interviewed people from

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Speaker 2: us today, and Quinn does something they call sportsmen modified, Right, Quinn,

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Speaker 5: By the way, Hey, how's it going. Good to talk

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Speaker 5: to you? Ron?

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Speaker 2: So sportsmen modified? You drive? What type of car?

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Speaker 5: So? Yeah, so modified are kind of an older standing

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Speaker 5: So that's what I mean when I say I drive

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Speaker 5: a Sportsman modified. They're they're the hybrid between the NASCAR

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Speaker 2: Now, your home track is right here in New Jersey,

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Speaker 5: Nope, Yeah, that's right. It's a third of a mile

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Speaker 2: I guess it is every day, but it's not every

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely so growing up, you know, every Sunday night

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't gold carts that you started in. It

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Speaker 5: That's right. Yeah. So they're like they're they're I couldn't

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Speaker 2: the age of ten flying around the track?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

432
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 5: Absolutely? So. The track that we reached on was a

433
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 5: twentieth of them mile, so not a great sense of scale,

434
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 5: but it's a pretty tiny track that lap times were

435
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 5: about seven seconds, so you're ripping around that thing pretty quick.

436
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 5: So it felt it felt faster than it was.

437
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: So, so you're ten years old, you're driving quarter midgetes

438
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: around Wall Stadium and then what a couple of years

439
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: later you graduate into what class of vehicle?

440
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, so after you know, I had to turn

441
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 5: sixteen years old get a permit to race to Big

442
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 5: Wall Stadium and we got into legend cars, which would

443
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 5: you want me to describe those? Really quick? Yeah?

444
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: What's now? What's a legend car?

445
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 5: So, legend car is if you imagine an old nineteen

446
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 5: thirty four to forward, you know, and they scaled it

447
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 5: down to about five aays to size. It's all stripped

448
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 5: out like a race car, and they throw a motorcycle

449
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 5: motor in the front of it.

450
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: Kind of the round nose, the round back.

451
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 5: That's right, Yeah, real spooping, you know, got the fenders

452
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 5: on it and everything. The only weigh about eleven hundred

453
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: pounds you know, with the with the driver, or maybe

454
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 5: twelve hundred, but still next to nothing with the horse

455
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 5: power they were pushing about one hundred.

456
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 2: And fifty depends if you had cheeseburgers on it before.

457
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 5: Exactly it didn't make an impact.

458
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: And then how fast did those cars go?

459
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 5: So those things, you know, we're still ripping about one

460
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 5: hundred miles an hour, triple digits because they just waited

461
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 5: next to nothing. You float through those corners pretty quick.

462
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: Oh and I guess I already know the answer to

463
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: this question. I can tell from what you're saying. Your

464
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: dad was kind of the instigator here, right, He's just

465
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: your your founding support, and I guess mom's in there too,

466
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: and the rest of the family. Everybody's just kind of helping.

467
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: This is a real grassroots eft trimmer motorsports now.

468
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, look, I couldn't do without the support

469
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 5: of my family to be able to say, yeah, we're

470
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 5: gonna put our ten year old and a and a

471
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 5: race car statman behind the motor and let him go

472
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 5: out there and have fun. But man, I mean without

473
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 5: without my dad, he's the lifeblood of this whole team. Uh,

474
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 5: And I can get into everything that he's done for

475
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 5: me and we be on the show for another couple

476
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 5: of hours, maybe a couple of days.

477
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: So but yeah, is it is?

478
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 5: It?

479
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: Is it? Did it teach a discipline? Quinn? I mean,

480
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: because there's there it's not forgiving out there, right, You're

481
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: you're doing all you're doing between eighty one hundred and

482
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: ten miles an hour around a third of a mile track.

483
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: There's no margin of error. You you learn life's shortcomings

484
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: and problems real quick, right.

485
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean besides, you know the lessons you

486
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 5: win in any other sport like sportsmanship or the power

487
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 5: of practice. You know, you see, you got to react

488
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: quick to things, and you got you gotta be able

489
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 5: to roll with the punches. And stuff doesn't go your

490
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 5: way at one hundred miles an hour, it's kind of

491
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 5: ruin your day and maybe your week, But you still

492
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 5: got to get back after the next one.

493
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: Wall Stadium has a very high banking turns and like

494
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: a tight racing groove. So you know when you when

495
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: you started there, what was the hardest thing for you

496
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: to learn? Because you're in a bigger, faster, more powerful

497
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: car as you've as you've you know, grown in type

498
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: of car.

499
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 5: It's definitely just you got to be able to trust

500
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 5: that banking. You know, when you first barrow that car

501
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 5: into into turn one, you know, in your first corner

502
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 5: and it looks like it's a complete one eighty. You know,

503
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 5: the turn looks like it comes up real fast and

504
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 5: all you want to do is hit the brakes in

505
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 5: this And what you really got to know is that

506
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 5: that banking it's gonna hold you. So you got to

507
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 5: be able to trust that car, and every every out

508
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 5: of your body's gonna tell you to stop and you

509
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 5: gotta let it roll through, keep on the gas, and

510
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 5: that's the only way to be fast. So it's a

511
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 5: big deep learning curve to get past of that.

512
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're not going fast enough, you're

513
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: gonna slide down the track, is what you're saying.

514
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 5: No, no, nothing like that. You know, even if you're

515
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 5: going you know, a sucking off the pace. Carl will

516
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 5: stick to the track, but you're gonna get run over

517
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 5: and about half a half a laugh if you're not

518
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 5: barreling into the corner like the rest of them.

519
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: So you got to you gotta be fast and high

520
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: into the corner, and you got to be fast enough

521
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: that the guy behind you isn't running you over.

522
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: That's right. Yeah, it's dangerous if you're too off the pace.

523
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 5: You know, not only are you liable to get wrecked,

524
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 5: so you're liable to wreck whole bunch of race cards

525
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 5: along with it.

526
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 2: You know, we may not let your mother listen to

527
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: this interview. You know, how does mom deal with it?

528
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: Does she listen to the races?

529
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 5: So she's come by a whole bunch And every time

530
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 5: I have ARONO, I'll call her on the phone and

531
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: I'll talk to her about it. And you know, it's

532
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: just she has never, you know, never been restrictively worried.

533
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 5: She knows how much safety equipment I wear and I

534
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 5: go in these cards. She knows that there's not many

535
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: injuries that go into the compared to the sport like football.

536
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: So she's been calm, always supportive, and you know, just

537
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 5: loves that I'm doing it and loves that I'm having fun.

538
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: So how old were you? And let me let me

539
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: give you the whole question. You know, your very first

540
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: night at Wall Stadium as a driver for a Sportsman

541
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: modified car, what's going through your mind? And how old

542
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: were you?

543
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: So in the Sportsman, Let's see, I must have been

544
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: I gotta, I gotta do a little math in my head.

545
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: Let's just wager to say I was probably around, you know,

546
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 5: maybe nineteen or twenty. And and you know, getting into

547
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: getting into that car. The first thing you know, you've

548
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 5: unloaded and it's just a lot more cars. So of

549
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 5: course you know you're nervous going into it, and you

550
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 5: just gotta you know, there's so many ways that I'll

551
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 5: like talk to myself in that race car to kind

552
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: of calm myself down. And it all comes down to

553
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 5: just remembering that, you know, stuff happens. You know, you

554
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: can sit there in the car and plan out that

555
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 5: entire race in your head, and as soon as the

556
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 5: green flag drops, all that planning goes away. Anything can

557
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 5: happen at any moment's notice. There's no reason to be nervous. Quinn,

558
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 5: Let's stop the lection time.

559
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: Let's pull over into the pits as it were. When

560
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: we come back, I want to talk about you know,

561
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: I had a pre radio conversation with your dad and

562
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: Dad was talking to me about how much you've learned

563
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: about how to explain to him the car does this

564
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: the card that? So when we come back, we're gonna

565
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna touch on that. We're here with Quinn Trimmer

566
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: of Trimmer Motorsports. I'm Ronnin Andy and the car Doctor.

567
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: We'll return right after this. Quinn Trimmer is here with

568
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: his Trimmer Motorsports. Quinn. When we pulled away for the pause,

569
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: the question was you know and talking to your dad.

570
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: Dad explained to me we were talking and he said,

571
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: how much more of a mechanic you are. You're more

572
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: mechanical now and you've learned from just driving the cars

573
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: the car positive is the negative? Which way to tweak

574
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: the suspension? How long did that take? And I guess

575
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: it's an ongoing process, right, you know, how does the

576
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: car handle? And to respond in terms that Dad can

577
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: relate to and make adjustments.

578
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's exactly right. It's ongoing, you know. But it

579
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: took me at least three or four years just to

580
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: understand where the car needed adjustment, if it was feeling loose,

581
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: tight or whatever it was. So but I'm still still learning.

582
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 5: End I'll being underneath the car and driving it.

583
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: So who's who's first? On race weekend? When do you

584
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: guys prep when you guys start to get ready to

585
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: go to the race? Like it's you know, it is

586
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: it a Wednesday to Thursday thing getting ready to go

587
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: for Saturday? Or is it is it a week long

588
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: thresh at night after your day jobs?

589
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it kind of depends on that the

590
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 5: car got damaged, but general mean and setup can take

591
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 5: you know, a day or two, and otherwise you might

592
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 5: want to go in the garage and just try something out,

593
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 5: see if you can move weight around. But you know,

594
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 5: it kind of depends. But me and me, I would

595
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 5: say Thursday, Friday, and then we're loaded up for Saturday.

596
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: Right, who's first at the shop? You were dead?

597
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 5: Oh, it's definitely my dad.

598
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: Who's the last to leave?

599
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: Who do you think?

600
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: I got to say? Your dad? I'm getting a sense here,

601
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: you know, But I think he's just having a ball

602
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: doing this with you, And I think it's a great

603
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: opportunity for a father's son to be together like.

604
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: That, I'm still glad to have. And I'll tell you

605
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 5: what you know.

606
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean the question I always ask at this point

607
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: in any interviews, there person on the team you couldn't

608
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: do without, and I guess it's your dad, right.

609
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: Right?

610
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's So what's more difficult driving the

611
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: car fast for twenty five laps or keeping your emotions

612
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 2: under control when things get really aggressive out there? I mean,

613
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: are there? Are there good races and bad races? And

614
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: then how do you react to that? And then how

615
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: do you come back for the next one?

616
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think it's definitely the It's definitely harder

617
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: to keep the car fast and consistent for all all

618
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 5: twenty five to however many lasts that we race. I

619
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: don't think it's too hard to keep your emotions underneathy.

620
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 5: You know, being mad's not going to make the car

621
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 5: any faster. And sure, I'll kee up on the radio

622
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 5: during the yellows and and you know, moan about this

623
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: and that, But you know, once the green flag drops,

624
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 5: it's it's pure focused. You got plenty of time to

625
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: feel things, and you know, right when the when the

626
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 5: checker flags over, that's when you could start digesting the

627
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: emotions and figuring out with super next week.

628
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: Quinn, how much of racing today is driver talent versus

629
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: car set up, tires, shocks, chassis tuning. You know, does

630
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: does the driver make the car? Does the car make

631
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: the driver? Or is it an equal contribution?

632
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: I would say it's close to an equal contribution in

633
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 5: the way that if you're a good driver and you

634
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 5: got a bad race car or fad being relative, you

635
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 5: can still drive the car and be fat, you know,

636
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: and be competitive. The same way if you're a newer

637
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 5: driver or a poorer driver in terms of racing skill

638
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 5: and discipline, you can be in a fast car and

639
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: run that thing up front too. But you got to

640
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: have both of them to be up there consistently and

641
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 5: winning races. And if you don't have either, then you're at.

642
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: The one Quinn, Is NASCAR in your future for Trimmer Motorsports?

643
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: God? I hope. So, you know, I'm I'm perfectly content

644
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 5: to keep racing locally, but I'm building my craft up

645
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 5: and build my brand up as much as I can

646
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 5: so that maybe we can get noticed and be on

647
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: the big stage one of these days, is it?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is the right question

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Speaker 2: to ask, but I'm going to ask it. Is it

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Speaker 2: you know, you go wanting to win every night or

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Speaker 2: is it just the thrill of the chase, the race itself.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Winn's that's the that's the big prize, right,

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Speaker 5: But I would definitely say, you know, we we go

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Speaker 5: after it every week because it's addicting, you know, it's

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Speaker 5: you want to go there and get better, to finish

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Speaker 5: better every week and have a faster lap time. And

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Speaker 5: that's what we did all twenty twenty five. Even though

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Speaker 5: we went wins last season, we improved every single week

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Speaker 5: and it's just such a good experience be seing me

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Speaker 5: and my dad and it's enthralling, you know, just getting

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Speaker 5: better every week.

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Speaker 2: Real quick answer, Quinn, does racing make you better at

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Speaker 2: your day job?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, yeah, it's just it. It's in all aspects

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Speaker 5: of life. You learn so much throughout race and and

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Speaker 5: just in those quick moments with all those people around

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Speaker 5: you and hosh stressed situations. It's it's great for you know,

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Speaker 5: all things. Definitely in my day job for sure.

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Speaker 2: Definitely gives you that discipline. Where can the listeners get

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Speaker 2: more information Quinn. If they want to follow Trimmer Motorsports,

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Speaker 2: where are you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so on Facebook, I'm another Quinn Strimmer Racing, And

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Speaker 5: on TikTok and Instagram it's Trimmer Motorsports. One word, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, cool beans. Listen about a month, six weeks, you

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Speaker 2: knock on my door. You come around again. We want

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Speaker 2: to see where you are in the standings this year.

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Speaker 2: All right, well do you're very welcome. Say hi to

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Speaker 2: mom and dad. I'm running any in the car doctor.

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Speaker 2: We're back right after this. Once again, I want to

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Speaker 2: thank Quinn Trimmer for stopping buying and taking the time.

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Speaker 2: He's racing tonight Wall Stadium and this weekend and then

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Speaker 2: forward with his schedule. You'll find him on Facebook Trimmer Motorsports.

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Speaker 2: But I thought the interesting part of that, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you got it, if you heard it

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Speaker 2: in the interview. He's young. He's twenty four or twenty five?

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Speaker 2: Did he say? But there's a classic example of what

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Speaker 2: cars can do. Right, We talk about it all the time.

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Speaker 2: Where are all the mechanics? Why was there such an

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Speaker 2: abundance of mechanics? Because the fifties, sixties, and seventies, he's

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Speaker 2: had cars that could be serviced and worked on, and

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Speaker 2: they were fun. The muscle cart You're a Hot Rods customization,

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Speaker 2: all the changes in the automobiles that created a generation

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Speaker 2: after generation after generation. I still think there's good mechanics

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Speaker 2: out there. I think it takes young men like Quinn

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Speaker 2: Trimmer and the Quinn Trimmers of the world to go

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Speaker 2: motorsport racing and to build up America's love affair with

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Speaker 2: automobiles once again. And I think that's part of what's

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Speaker 2: in that interview that we may or may not have heard.

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Speaker 2: It's been fun being here this hour. As always, check

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Speaker 2: out the podcast. They'll be up at five pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 2: I'm running any in the Car Doctor till the next time.

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Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. To see you. He

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