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Speaker 1: ISI to Texans All Access. I'm back, Yes, that's right,

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Speaker 1: I've been at Pro Days. What the Baylor on Monday?

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Speaker 1: really good relationship with him when he was in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I'd tell you. Let's go back to when he was drafted.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean said. When they drafted him, he said, no

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Speaker 1: other running back had a more fun film to watch

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Speaker 1: at FAU. Go watch this highlights at FAU. He was

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Speaker 1: a touchdown machine. He was a ball touching machine. He

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Speaker 1: had o were three hundred carries a couple of different

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Speaker 1: years at f AU. There's a guy that comes in

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Speaker 1: with a lot into the NFL already with a lot

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Speaker 1: of carries. Now he's played four years. Now what the

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Speaker 1: Bills did though he was I would say mark the

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Speaker 1: lead back quote unquote, but the lead back for the

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Speaker 1: Bills doesn't care the ball twenty times a game, right

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Speaker 1: they So it wasn't like he had all this placed

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Speaker 1: on him. They put him in a position, I think

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Speaker 1: a good position to succeed. He's a very wiggly runner,

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Speaker 1: doesn't have breakaway speed. He's gonna be shifty in the hole.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna find his way to extra yards that way.

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Speaker 1: Once he gets to the second level, he's not breaking

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Speaker 1: away from anyone, but he's so elusive that he can

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Speaker 1: get an angle on somebody to allow those extra yards.

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Speaker 1: In fact, over the last few years he's had I

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Speaker 1: think if I recall three really long runs for touchdown,

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Speaker 1: and every one of them he was caught at the

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Speaker 1: goal line by somebody who was chasing him from behind.

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Speaker 1: Because he doesn't have the speed, but he finds his

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Speaker 1: ways to get the angles. And that's what you're gonna like,

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Speaker 1: not really not really great coming out of the backfield

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Speaker 1: as a pass catcher. But he can do it. He's

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Speaker 1: had some drops, some issues like that, but at times

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Speaker 1: he's been very, very reliable. He might have seven eight

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Speaker 1: catches one game and the next game he go, man,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe he dropped that really big pass that

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Speaker 1: he should have had. So maybe the hands or something

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna use a lot of them with. But

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Speaker 1: he can do it. Is that why they made the

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Speaker 1: deal for Niheim Hines the Bills? Because we're there Indie

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Speaker 1: the final game of the regular season, and one thing

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Speaker 1: Andrey Ware and I were thinking, is, hey, the Bills

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Speaker 1: could use a guy like Zach Moss if he had

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Speaker 1: a big, bruising runner, and don't they need that? But

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Speaker 1: you made the deal why the Bills needed more of

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Speaker 1: diversity in their offense? And I think that goes back

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Speaker 1: to what I just said, with a guy like Devon's

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the last offseason. The Bills actually

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Speaker 1: had an agreement with j. D. McKissick and then he

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Speaker 1: backed out of the agreement, and because of that, they

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Speaker 1: went and they drafted. They drafted James Cook come in.

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Speaker 1: He was a very good receiver at Georgia, coming out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield. They were searching for that receiver out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield, receive out of the backfield, and that

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Speaker 1: tells you that wasn't Devin right, it wasn't the guy

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Speaker 1: they had. It wasn't Zack Moss necessarily, and then they

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Speaker 1: got him. He never really played that much and people

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Speaker 1: were wondering, why can't he play more on offense? It

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Speaker 1: just never fit, you know, it's tough to get people

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Speaker 1: up to speak quickly after the trade deadline fit him

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Speaker 1: in the offense. And then the Bills had a game

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Speaker 1: move because of the weather. They had a Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: Another Thursday night game they had DeMar Hamlin. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think it really could fully take place with nine hinds,

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Speaker 1: but it hits your question, and that's why they got him.

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Speaker 1: But they also got him to return punts and kicks

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Speaker 1: and he's very good at that obviously as well. Sow.

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Speaker 1: We were thinking about you, I know, Johnny and you

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Speaker 1: communicated during the whole Damar Hamlets situation and that night

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Speaker 1: and the ensuing days and everything that he went through,

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Speaker 1: but also the organization was going through as a whole.

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Speaker 1: What can you share with us about that from this

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Speaker 1: standpoint now here in late March. Yeah, I was on

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Speaker 1: the field that night. It was a night obviously that

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Speaker 1: was incredibly tragic, but now has what we think is

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Speaker 1: a really incredible ending in a positive way because the

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Speaker 1: latest is mark that tomorrow Hamlet wants to play football again,

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Speaker 1: and he's going through the process of getting cleared to

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Speaker 1: play football again, and he's seeing doctors and he's taking

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Speaker 1: care of that at his own and the Bills are

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Speaker 1: very much in communication with that, and the messages from

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Speaker 1: general manager Brandon Bean and head coach Sean mcdermodar hey.

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Speaker 1: If he gets proper clearance from the right people, we

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Speaker 1: support him and we're on board, and he's gonna play

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Speaker 1: football again, and DeMar is going to. But think about

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Speaker 1: the changes that have been made and the things and

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Speaker 1: the lives have been impacted by his situation. The millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars that were raised through his Chasing MS foundation,

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Speaker 1: Chasing Millions that he started at pit by the Way

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Speaker 1: in college. He started this foundation to help underprivileged kids.

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Speaker 1: Right there was the go fund Me page. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know what to do with. There was so much money

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Speaker 1: coming in, so they branched out into different kinds of

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Speaker 1: charities and organizations, and now you had here the American

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Speaker 1: Heart Association just did something yesterday in conjunction with MLB

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Speaker 1: and MBA, NFL and DeMars and Corey Stringer's charity that

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Speaker 1: now they're going to start basically pushing for laws to

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Speaker 1: have more available sorry, more available ads, and more people

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Speaker 1: getting CPR training and knowing how to do that. And

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Speaker 1: it's important for everybody to do that. And I'll just say,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people know the story Denny Kellington,

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Speaker 1: the trainer for the Bills who basically is credited with

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Speaker 1: saving DeMar's life on the field, right. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: how important is those seconds? Those seconds literally changed his

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Speaker 1: life for him to be able to perform CPR in

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Speaker 1: that moment. Great to see the way the leaguers responding

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Speaker 1: to all this too, So yeah, that's that's a wonderful thing.

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Speaker 1: Sal Capaccio joining us Buffalo Bills sideline reporter, doublegr host

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. All right, in the division. The Texans don't

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Speaker 1: play the Bills this year, but we play at New

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Speaker 1: York against the Jets at New Jersey. So tell me

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Speaker 1: about your view of what the Jets are going through

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Speaker 1: right now? I don't want to leave Rogers out of it.

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Speaker 1: I know it's hard to do that, but they were

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Speaker 1: making some strides last year and then everything fell apart

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback injury situation and the performance of Wilson.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on where they're headed? Aside from

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Speaker 1: Rogers maybe, which is a big thing to say right now,

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Speaker 1: they're going all in, I mean obviously him, because not

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Speaker 1: only Rogers, but look at the other additions they're making

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Speaker 1: with Alan Lazard and maybe he's still in an OBJ

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Speaker 1: right right and some of the other moves that they're making.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, they have all these young guys,

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Speaker 1: this talent, Breece Hall so phenomenal, it's such a shame

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Speaker 1: would happened to him if he comes back, and Garrett

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Speaker 1: Wilson obviously at wide receiver, and Sauce Gardner. They have

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Speaker 1: all these phenomenally young players. I think though, that there's

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Speaker 1: still a little bit to be done on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: That's an area where I think even getting Rogers like

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Speaker 1: how much can you trust the offensive line to keep

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Speaker 1: him healthy and keep them right all year? But Robert

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Speaker 1: Sala I think is learning a lot, I think from

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Speaker 1: his first year to a second year. I think Robert

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Speaker 1: Salo really grew as a head coach. He's always had

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Speaker 1: a really good defense, but I think now last year

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Speaker 1: you saw that that defense really understood how to play

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Speaker 1: the game against these elite quarterbacks and do what they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to do. So, look, I get asked the question

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Speaker 1: a lot, but how much has the gap closed? Have

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Speaker 1: the Jets passed the Bills with Rogers? Have the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: passed the Bills? I'm not ready to go there. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. I think the Bills are still there.

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Speaker 1: They have closed the gap. But I do think if

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Speaker 1: you take players, take the quarterback out, take the other

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Speaker 1: fifty two players, the bottom end of those rosters, even

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Speaker 1: the Jets still has to be desired, right. I mean

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Speaker 1: they have they have top end talent, but the depth

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Speaker 1: is where those teams still have to elevate themselves. I

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Speaker 1: think to compete with the Bills for the AFC East, Right,

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Speaker 1: Patriot's twenty five and twenty five since Brady left amazing

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Speaker 1: weird to say, obviously playoff appearance, but your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: where they're headed now. So it's so funny that I

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Speaker 1: remember maybe ten straight years it would seem like Bob

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Speaker 1: Sewanee would write an article in the Boston Globe. I

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Speaker 1: think it's where Dan Dan chawnasy, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: And it was something to the effect of, well, here

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Speaker 1: we go to another season, the Patriots and a bunch

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Speaker 1: of tomato cans in their division. Like that would be

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Speaker 1: the theme every year he would write about it. And

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Speaker 1: now I'm thinking about that in reverse, which is, here

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Speaker 1: are the Patriots. They are the fourth team in the

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Speaker 1: AFC East. Now they are the team looking up at

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Speaker 1: everybody else wondering how can we catch up? And I

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Speaker 1: just I'm puzzled, Mark by some of the decisions that

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick makes, how he's building his roster. I know

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Speaker 1: this is so he's so revered. He's the most accomplished

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Speaker 1: coach in the league, one of the most accomplished human

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Speaker 1: beings in this league. I understand that for what I'm

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Speaker 1: about to say, I understand how it sounds of people,

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Speaker 1: But I actually think that Bill Belichick still kind of

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Speaker 1: operates and coaches like it's the early two thousands sometimes,

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Speaker 1: and that's not the league anymore, r right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks hurt him a lot every time he plays

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Speaker 1: the mobile Josh Allen has killed him when he's played him,

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields hurt him a lot last year, Lambard Jackson.

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Speaker 1: He has not adjusted to the way the game has played.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's weird to say, and someone's gonna go,

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Speaker 1: come on, who's this guy talking about? Bill Belichick hasn't adjusted.

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Speaker 1: But look at the look at the data. Look at

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Speaker 1: the data. Brady's not there to cover everything up, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think that they're going to be in for

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Speaker 1: a bit of a rebuild, although they don't know it

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Speaker 1: and they don't want to admit it. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the problem going on right now. Yeah, well I'm here

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Speaker 1: for it, by the way, because we've suffered so much. Again,

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Speaker 1: a quick note on the Dolphins here. Well, I do

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Speaker 1: like Mike McDaniel's a coach. I think he's very well respected,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. That is a team that is

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Speaker 1: truly going all in on the veterans they're bringing in,

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Speaker 1: and they have a couple of young guys, but really

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Speaker 1: we mark there. They have two years to do what

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Speaker 1: they want to do and then they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: really assess and honestly, I mean to it. He's so tiny,

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Speaker 1: he's so good, but how long can he last in

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Speaker 1: this league? And I'm not even talking about the concussions.

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Speaker 1: He's not super mobile. He's thrown around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's all it's all gonna be about. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: won't insite Mike White to what eight million dollars or

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. I mean, because they know and that's

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Speaker 1: Mike White, right, I mean, they know it. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: need someone because you can't rely on to it to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. If you can't, I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: they can really go further. When the Bills drafted Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: what were your thoughts and expectations at that point? Have

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Speaker 1: they been exceeded? Because you look at that draft and

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Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks available. We could talk about that all

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Speaker 1: day long, but here are the Texans in a situation where, okay,

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Speaker 1: they need they need a quarterback. They've got case Keatam

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills on the roster currently, but what do you

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Speaker 1: think of the situation they're in and the way it

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Speaker 1: played out for the Bills picking a guy like Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen lower completion percentage in college, but a lot of potential.

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Speaker 1: So the Bills basically Texans Bills traded backup quarterbacks this year,

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Speaker 1: right case dam and Allen. Right there, they're kind of

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Speaker 1: swapping spots. So I think this is the perfect blend

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Speaker 1: of quarterback and human being being in the right situation,

642
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Speaker 1: in the right environment, with the right people in in

643
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Speaker 1: the right city. You don't always get that. If there's

644
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Speaker 1: one thing I learned, You've in on this game a

645
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: long time, but I think it really crystallized to me

646
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Speaker 1: from twenty eighteen till now, Mark, which is organization matters

647
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: so much. Going back to our first thing we talked about,

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Speaker 1: I've always said this, if Josh Allen was drafted by

649
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Speaker 1: the Jets, I don't he might be bust out by now.

650
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Speaker 1: I mean he'd be good. He wouldn't bet Josh Allen,

651
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Speaker 1: And I shouldn't say bust out, he just wouldn't be

652
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Speaker 1: who he is. Right if sim Darnold was drafted by

653
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Speaker 1: the Bills, he wouldn't be Josh. He'd be a good quarterback.

654
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Speaker 1: He'd be a good quarterback that would still probably be

655
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Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Bills and winning games, because I

656
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: think the organization and the development matters so much, and

657
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Speaker 1: that's where you got to have the right people. When

658
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Speaker 1: Josh was drafted. Like to me, I always I felt, hey,

659
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: big risk, big reward. But we went twenty years through

660
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: the waste land of quarterbacks and went through so many

661
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: of them, you might as well take a shot at somebody, right,

662
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Speaker 1: I don't even remember if he's my preferred guy. I

663
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Speaker 1: thought that. I thought Josh Rosen was more of the

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Speaker 1: safe pick, and look how that turned out. Right, It

665
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Speaker 1: is funny to think about if Lamar goes to another team, Baker,

666
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Speaker 1: Sam Arnold, Josh and Josh Rose and Josh Allen will

667
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Speaker 1: be the only one still on his original team from that.

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Speaker 1: You just never know what's going to happen. And that's

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Speaker 1: I look at this year's draft and I say, I

670
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Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen with these guys. I mean,

671
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Speaker 1: I have thoughts, but what the what does that mean? Really? No,

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Speaker 1: it's I agree with you, And again I'm gonna say so,

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Speaker 1: Like I look on the outside, you guys, what you're

674
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Speaker 1: billion in Houston some cohesion now front office. I know

675
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Speaker 1: they've gone through some coaching changes the last couple of years,

676
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Speaker 1: but you have the right environment and people in the consistency,

677
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Speaker 1: you can bring a quarterback in, you can develop, have

678
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Speaker 1: a plan for him and develop them. I think Carolina

679
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: is going to be on the right track with Frank Reich.

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Speaker 1: I think Frank brings consistency to that organization. He's got

681
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Speaker 1: a rock star of a coaching staff. I think they're

682
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Speaker 1: whoever they take. Who knows how how good they'll be,

683
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Speaker 1: But at least I think they'll give a chance. They'll

684
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Speaker 1: have a chance because they'll be developed the right way.

685
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Speaker 1: But look at all these organizations that have taken quarterbacks

686
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Speaker 1: at their quarterbacks over the years, and they just never

687
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: had Even Buffalo, we saw it. When you have constant

688
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Speaker 1: GM turnover, constant head coach turnover r you can never

689
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Speaker 1: give him that stabilized environment that he can thrive in.

690
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Speaker 1: What if we had him Buffalo though this is six

691
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: years now, we have the same GM, same head coach.

692
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Speaker 1: That's an eternity in the NFL. And you gave a

693
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Speaker 1: lot of guys a shot like Trent Edwards, Ye Lost

694
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Speaker 1: Man and EJ Man, all these players, right and our

695
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Speaker 1: guy fits who we saw last night right right, Fitzpatrick

696
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Speaker 1: was walking around the reception and you know, we love

697
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Speaker 1: fits in Buffalo, but literally he was the franchise quarterfaw

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Speaker 1: love Fits in Buffalo, Love, love love. Everybody loves it.

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Speaker 1: I think everywhere he played, Yes, I gotta, I gotta

700
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Speaker 1: be right about this. They love him. But I will

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Speaker 1: tell you he says even the most amazingly. He was

702
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: a member of the Miami Dolphins and still said on

703
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Speaker 1: a podcast that Buffalo was his favorite city while he

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Speaker 1: was playing for the Dolphins. Still he said that basically.

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Speaker 1: But he just feels right for Buffaloes, you know, just

706
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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen. I think Josh Allen feels right for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: He's Josh Allen's from California. He's not La though, right,

708
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Speaker 1: He's from a farming town. He had to go that.

709
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: He had to go to the Juco route. He didn't

710
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: have all the d one offers. He didn't go to

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Speaker 1: the elite eleven camping. I mean, right, there's there's California,

712
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Speaker 1: and there's California right place. There's a lot of different

713
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Speaker 1: dynamics too. That's fun, all right, South, thanks a lot

714
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Speaker 1: for joining us. You got it, man, anytime. Appreciate you.

715
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Speaker 1: It's my dude. Sal Capaccio, Buffalo Bills, Sideline Reporter are

716
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 1: gonna be a great friend of mine, and of course

717
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: of Mark Vandermer as well as they got together at

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Speaker 1: the annual Meetings aka the Owner's Meetings. All right, we

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Speaker 1: go on final segment of the show. Coming up, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to Brian Rolapp, NFL Media Executive Vice President.

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Speaker 1: That's next right here on Texans All Access Checksans Radio

722
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Speaker 1: continues in a moment, we returned to Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna final segment of this initiation of Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access coming at you. Mark at the annual meeting said

725
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Speaker 1: chance to catch up with Calahanna Mcnarropeley didn't miss that

726
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: early on, but if you did, go to Housttexas dot

727
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: com go get the app Texas All Access. So we

728
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: posted there. Also had Sal Capacco, my buddy from Buffalo,

729
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Speaker 1: talking about all things going on with the NFL, talking

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Speaker 1: about Devin Singletary, Josh Allen, et cetera. And now Brian

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Speaker 1: roll Out joins us NFL Media Executive Vice President and

732
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: manage so much going on in the media, in particular,

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Speaker 1: the Amazon situation came up this week, and that's one

734
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Speaker 1: got It's interesting. You can now have a couple of

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Speaker 1: teams with potentially Thursday games with more than one and

736
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Speaker 1: you might have teams without a Thursday night game, so

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. That was kind of brought up

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Speaker 1: this week, and the NFL talked about that, but Mark

739
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: got up with Brian and talking about all things going

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Speaker 1: on media wise in the NFL. Okay, Brian, let's start

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Speaker 1: with the Thursday night situation. I found it interesting in

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Speaker 1: your press conference. Everybody's wondering how many times could a

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Speaker 1: team possibly appear on Thursday Night? And I guess two

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00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: is the max on a short week. But if you

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Speaker 1: were playing on opening weekend and Thanksgiving and the week

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Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, conceivably you could be on Thursday night four times.

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Speaker 1: I doubt it what happened, but it's a possibility, right.

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Speaker 1: That's a possibility, but not likely at all to your point,

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Speaker 1: because kick golf is not a short week. Thanksgiving is

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Speaker 1: a short week, right, But if you play the week

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00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: right after that, it's not a short week, right. So

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Speaker 1: but no, I think the probability to that is is

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Speaker 1: pretty low, but it is possible, I suppose. So what

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Speaker 1: will be discussed in May, if anything, about the possibility

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Speaker 1: of flex scheduling for Thursday nights and what are sort

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00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: of the challenges you have going into that. Yeah, I

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00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: think there's a really good discussion today on flex scheduling.

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00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Flex scheduling has actually been pretty beneficial to the league.

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00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: We've done it on Sunday night for years. We're doing

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00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: it on Monday night for the first time next year.

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: Is part of our new media agreements. We've done elements

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Speaker 1: of it what we call cross flex in Sunday afternoon

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Speaker 1: where sometimes games that we're on CBS go over to

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Speaker 1: Fox or we go from one o'clock to four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We've been doing that on Sunday for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Thursday is the one package that hasn't so it's it's

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00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: been successful, but each night, in each day is different.

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Speaker 1: Some of the considerations we talked about are clearly at

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Speaker 1: the top of the list. Make sure health and safety

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Speaker 1: is there for the players, and we see all the

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00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: data that says the injury rates are not any higher

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Speaker 1: for short weeks. In fact, they're there in some instances

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Speaker 1: lower ticket holders. We understand the disruption for a fan

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00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: who had originally purchased a ticket for Sunday going to

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Speaker 1: Thursday's pretty disruptive, certainly much different than buying a ticket

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00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: for Sunday at you know, one o'clock eastern and going

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Speaker 1: to eight o'clock eastern. That's that's it's a different So

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Speaker 1: that that is always a big concern and a discussion

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00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: how you do that, how often you do that UM?

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Speaker 1: And then the competitive issues to make sure there's not

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Speaker 1: competitive in equities for competition, that's a big discussion among

782
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: clubs UM. So it was a it was a healthy,

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00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: healthy discussion, and I think UM will continue to have it.

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Speaker 1: On Flex. There was there was wide support for, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, allowing teams to play more than one short week,

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Speaker 1: but the Flex, I think we're going to take some

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Speaker 1: more time to talk about and discuss and see where

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Speaker 1: we are in May. All right, YouTube Sunday Ticket, Brian,

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Speaker 1: tell the viewers the listeners, how it's going to be different,

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00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: the experience of having YouTube carry this great package. Yeah,

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00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: we're we're really really excited about it. UM. I think

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Speaker 1: what's different in YouTube is the obvious one, which is

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Speaker 1: you don't need a satellite dish to watch it. All

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Speaker 1: you need a broadband connection or a mobile connection, where

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Speaker 1: increasingly everybody is going in that direction already has that.

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Speaker 1: But once you put Sunday Ticket on a medium like that,

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00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of things you can do differently. You can,

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Speaker 1: you know, add interactivity. You see what YouTube is actually

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Speaker 1: done in the tournament this past few weeks is they've

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Speaker 1: done essentially a quadbox where you can actually put up

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Speaker 1: four games at once, pretty seamlessly, at high quality and

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Speaker 1: watch it, which is one thing we hear from our

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Speaker 1: fans all the time that they want to do. And

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Speaker 1: those are just the basic easy things. I think there's

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Speaker 1: all other sorts of things that YouTube is planning to

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Speaker 1: make the product more interactive and more innovative. But just

807
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: begin with to not if you choose not to, it's

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Speaker 1: part of your put a satellite on your roof. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to. You can. Also they're going to distribute

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Speaker 1: to two ways too that you can get it on

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Speaker 1: YouTube tv, which the best way to think about YouTube

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Speaker 1: TV is essentially cable television but on the internet, and

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Speaker 1: it's the fastest growing pay TV company in this country.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't want it, you can buy just

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. It might cost you a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: but so you don't have to subscribe to YouTube TV.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of flexibility for a fan that

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Speaker 1: I think that fan's really gonna like Ryan tell me

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Speaker 1: about the sky Dance partnership with NFL Films and what

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Speaker 1: that can do for some of the shows we enjoy already,

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Speaker 1: like Hard Knocks in season Hard Knocks, But I know

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Speaker 1: you're going to expand the portfolio. Yeah, we are. We're

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Speaker 1: really excited about that. We started about eighteen months ago

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Speaker 1: with this idea that our fans tell us all the

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Speaker 1: time that they love football stories, whether those stories come

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Speaker 1: from NFL films, the documentaries we do, or things like

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Speaker 1: card Knocks or the things Hollywood does scripted. And it's

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Speaker 1: not just football stories. They love sports stories. If you

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Speaker 1: look around, because as streaming platforms have got bigger, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Hulu or Peacock or Netflix, there's more and more

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Speaker 1: of this content you've ever than ever before. But there's

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Speaker 1: not enough sports sports under indexes. And we heard this

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00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: from all these providers, so we decided there's really a

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Speaker 1: way how do we actually create more of this content

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Speaker 1: for fans to enjoy. So partnering with Hollywood Studio to

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Speaker 1: create something new is what we decided to do. So

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Speaker 1: we decided to partner Skydance. Skydances, the film studio that

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Speaker 1: had brought you, you know, Top Gun Maverick, the biggest

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Speaker 1: movie of the of the year last year, but I'll

840
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: also have done a lot of other things on television

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00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: and combining the best and unscripted which is NFL Films,

842
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: and combining the best in scripted, which is Skydance Studios,

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00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: we have created what I think is the premier sports

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Speaker 1: studio in the world. So you will see sports and

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00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: football related movies, TV shows, documentaries that you're you're you're

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00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: used to getting from NFL films, which you get a

847
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Speaker 1: lot more of them, and we're really excited about it.

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Speaker 1: And one of the first things, you know, really premiered

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Speaker 1: last night is the first thing to come under the

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Speaker 1: sky Dance Sports label as the movie Air, which is

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