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Speaker 1: Hello Texans. Let's get right into it with the podcast

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Speaker 1: today as we will talk about the Texans taking on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers a Legends Homecoming presented by Ford. Now it

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Speaker 1: is Legends homecoming, it is JJ Watt going into the

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Speaker 1: Ring of Honor at the half and most importantly, or

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Speaker 1: that's super important. I don't mean to downplay that. But

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Speaker 1: the Texans play their fourth game of the season against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers team that's two and one and they're starting

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Speaker 1: to heat up a bit. Now they've given up some

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Speaker 1: rushing yards, but they get after it defensively anyway. With TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt and Alex Highsmith. So we're going to visit with

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Steelers, Bill Hillgrove and talk about this. Now.

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Speaker 1: He's been doing Steelers games for a long time. He

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Speaker 1: replaced a legend named Jack Fleming. People from Pittsburgh know

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Speaker 1: that name. Well. Fleming did the Steelers and the seventies,

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl wins with Terry Bradshaw company, did those

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship games against the Oilers in the late seventies.

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Speaker 1: He also did West Virginia Mountain years on the radio

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Speaker 1: and total legend. But Hillgrove has won himself and he

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Speaker 1: worked with the legendary Myron Cope. Lots of legends in

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Speaker 1: this podcast. Myron Cope invented the Terrible Tell. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into that story. Also, the very recent story of the

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Speaker 1: Steelers being trapped for lack of a better word, on

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Speaker 1: their plane on the way back from Vegas. They had

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Speaker 1: to land in Kansas City, stayed there for a long

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Speaker 1: time before they got another plane in. They had some

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Speaker 1: issues and they ended up being fine, totally safe, but

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Speaker 1: it was a long travel day back from Vegas to

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Speaker 1: get back to steel City and then they go back

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Speaker 1: out on the road to take on the Texans this weekend.

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Speaker 1: So a lot to cover here. If you're into the

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Speaker 1: history at Pittsburgh Sports, I'll ask Killgrove a few things

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Speaker 1: about that. And look, this is a really meaningful weekend.

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Speaker 1: The Watt Brothers in the House, the Ring of Honor,

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Speaker 1: Dimico Ryans trying to make it two in a row

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Speaker 1: for his young team. CJ. Stroud. What's the next step

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Man? The drama is thick and delicious. Sunday at noon

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Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium. Let's get into it now with the

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Steelers, Bill Hillgrove. Bill great to visit

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Speaker 1: with you again. How's it going, my friend, It's.

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Speaker 2: Going very well. You know, we have the week shortened

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Speaker 2: a little bit by an interesting plane flight from Vegas

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Speaker 1: Now, were you on the plane the whole time? During

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Speaker 1: the delay, were you guys able to go to a hotel?

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Speaker 1: I know, it's easier said than done with an entire

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Speaker 2: Here's this thing. First of all, there's no TSA, and

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Speaker 2: the pilot said, we're going to sit on the airplane

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Speaker 2: because we have food and memories. They don't in the terminal.

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Speaker 2: So there was no way to get out of there

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin dealt with it very well. Yesterday he says,

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Speaker 2: non issue. He said, some people took naps, and other

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Speaker 2: so you know, they got started on the Texans even

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Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing that you had to divert that way. Well,

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Speaker 1: tell me about the team so far as you had

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Speaker 1: the shaky start, but back to back wins. How's it

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Speaker 1: going overall, Bill?

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Speaker 2: In your opinion, Yeah, it's I think the arrows up. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: the defense has won the day in their two wins,

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Speaker 2: and you know, everything is relative in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco was superior in all phases, and that's one

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Speaker 2: And you know TJ. Watt and Alex high Smith, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell me about TJ. Watt. Obviously we're very

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Speaker 2: He's quick, he's relentless. He studies film. You know some

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Speaker 1: Well, give me the snapshot on Alex Highsmith because he's

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Speaker 2: He came into his own probably starting last year, and

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, this presents the quandary for

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a very good thing. They have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've noticed, And speaking of your quarterback Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 1: how is he progressing? It's year two. I know these

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Speaker 2: Having watched him at camp and also in the preseason,

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Speaker 2: you could really see this step forward now against San

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Speaker 2: of it coming back. As you know, the Steelers were

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Speaker 2: I think the Steelers are handling a difficult part of

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Speaker 2: the defense has carried them when the offense hasn't been there.

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Speaker 2: But the offense is getting better there. Rushing was much

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Speaker 1: Legendary voice of the Steelers, Bill Hilgrove joining us. Bill,

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Speaker 1: it blows my mind and I think everybody's that. In

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era, you've had three head coaches of

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Speaker 2: I think the Rooney style is what prevails. I remember

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Speaker 2: you hire Joe Green. He's got coaching experience, He's a

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Speaker 2: Let's look at Chuck Nole, a fine assistant, a sharp assistant,

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Speaker 1: Bill. You worked with the legendary Myron Cope and he's

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Speaker 1: credited with making the Terrible towel, and these towels are

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Speaker 1: so familiar to people today, but a lot of people

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Speaker 1: might not remember much about Myron Cope. What can you

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Speaker 2: With them, Well, the boss called him in and said, Myron,

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Speaker 2: you know, we've got to have more closer identity with

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Speaker 2: Coke came up with the idea. He said, well, everybody

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Speaker 2: and they can wave it and oh, okay, this is

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Speaker 2: He's the only person. He wasn't sure until Lynn Swan

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Speaker 2: I think we got something here. And interestingly, Myron you know,

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Speaker 2: A lot of places have towels and they waved them.

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Speaker 2: He said, yeah, they're for free. He said. Steeler fans

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Bill Hillgrove, voice of the Steelers, joining us.

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Speaker 1: You're a Pittsburgh native, so you grew up in the

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Speaker 2: Okay, grew up a baseball fan, played it better than

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Speaker 1: Well, I love the setting there along the Three rivers

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Speaker 2: Bill, I think there was a lot of sentiment attached

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Speaker 2: But you know, time march is on. Time waits for

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Speaker 2: no one, and it was time for a new stadium.

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Speaker 2: And the Steelers are very content with what was Heinzfield

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Speaker 1: I know this is before your time broadcasting Steelers games,

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Speaker 1: but this is Houston and we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who still celebrate the AFC Championship game appearances of

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Speaker 1: I just saw him yesterday at a Lombardi event. What

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the images that comes up in my

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Speaker 2: went what And sure enough he comes out and he said, Bill,

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Speaker 2: I'll do the interview, but if I slur any words,

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Speaker 2: and that's my memory of that. And also, you know

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Speaker 1: Finally, Bill, your thoughts on the Texans. I know we're

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Speaker 2: Amazing young team. CJ. Stroud is mature beyond his years.

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Speaker 2: You got the terminator on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: You know, CJ hasn't been sacked yet and is what

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Speaker 1: All right, Bill, Well, we appreciate the time as always,

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Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you on Sunday, and we thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for visiting today.

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Speaker 2: More than welcome. Let's do it again, all right.

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Speaker 1: There's Bill Hillgrove, voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers, joining us

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Speaker 1: on the podcast and some other notes of course, the

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Speaker 1: I can describe it. They went through about a three

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Speaker 1: Burrow actually won the Award, but the rotary Lombardi Award,

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Speaker 1: the way it's officially put together, they're going to stick

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Speaker 1: this year. Anyway, it's gonna be fun. Sunday noon, Steelers, Texans,

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Speaker 1: Let's get it on. Can't wait. Thanks so much for

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