1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody do a money edition of Texans All Access. Yes, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, and I am joined right 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: off the bat by the voice of the Texans, who 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: I know had this guttural response to things that happened 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: yesterday morning. We'll get that in a second, but he 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: is here, Mark vandamer training camp is about seven weeks away. 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: How are you feeling. I'm feeling like I wish it 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: was one week away, or maybe twenty four hours away. 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. Although, look it's summer, and I 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: guess you know, we're gonna have some time off here, 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: some of us from here and there and wherever, and 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: it's good to get a little recharge going because we'd 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: be going at it. You know, we've had this team practicing, 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: working getting to know them a little bit, Johnny and 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get to know them a whole 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: lot better, and everybody will have that chance during training camp. 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm excited for that because preseason games are gonna be 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: musty TV and radio, and also whatever we get during 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: the practice is training camp. So I'm excited for the 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: fans to get a look and a listen as to 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: what these guys are about go deeper, deeper within if 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: you will before we get to opening day, no doubt, 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: and we will go deeper a little bit. Drew Doherty 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: will with a Drew's dozen check out the alliteration deeper 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: With Drew's dozen, Camu Grugier Hill will join us, and 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Drew told me this a fun one. The Hawaiian who 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: has been done a lot in this league, including how 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: about this little nugget of trivia. We now have two 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: Hawaiians that have kicked off in an NFL game? Can 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: you name them? Well, you should be able to. Now. Wait, 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: so Gruge Hill kicked off. He did in a game. 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: I believe it was at Dallas, their kicker and I'm 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: trying to I want to say Acres, David Acres. I 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: believe it was Acres was hurt and Gruge Hill stepped 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: in kicked off and he is. How about that the 36 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: second Hawaiian? Two? We have two Hawaiians that have kicked 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: off an NFL game. Maybe there are others. I don't know, 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: but I just know that two of them. We know 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: two of them, Kymie Fairbaron and Camu Grugier Hill. So 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: we'll hear from Drew and Grugier Hill later in the show. 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: But mark a seismic AFC South moment came down yesterday 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: and on the Richter scale within the division, well, in 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: the NFL it was about a seven. In the AFC 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: South in a division, it was about a nine plus. 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: Julio Jones traded to the Tennessee Titans. Now we're gonna 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: do what I call AFC South best slashed most next. 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: But I like to do a segment with you called 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: gut reaction. When you saw it on Sunday morning that 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Julio Jones was going to the Tennessee Titans. What was 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: your overall gut reaction to that. Well, it's huge, obviously, 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, here we go. I'd rather have 52 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: him go to the NFC or stay in the NFC 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: and not affect the division. And I was trying to 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: think about what it compares to. This is the biggest 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: non draft AFC South acquisition in how long? Right, when 56 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: you think about big free agent signings, now never mind 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: what they became, but what they were when they happened, 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: and it's not a free agent signing, it's a trade, 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: but big non draft acquisitions. Look, Oswalder was a big one. Right, 60 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: that was a huge free agent signing that was seismic 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: at the time. We didn't know how it was going 62 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: to turn out. But remember I'm talking about when the 63 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: acquisition occurs as opposed to what it turns out to be, 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: because this might not be as big as you think 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. And I'll tell you why. 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: They're already the division champs from twenty twenty and they 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: might need to do this. If I'm a Titans fan, 68 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: I like that my team's continually trying to get better, 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: because if you're not trying to get better, you'd probably 70 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: get worse. Right, you bring everything back, you think we're 71 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: gonna run it back, Well, things happen, injuries, whatever, it's 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: not the same. Everybody else got better or enough teams 73 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: to knock you down a peg or so. And that 74 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: happened with the Texans last year. Even though they did 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: a lot of moves, they clearly got worse record wise, 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: a whole lot worse. And we are where we are 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: with the Titans. You know, I think it helps them, Johnny, 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it helps them enough for 79 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: what it is contractually and the status of it and 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: all of that when you still need help on the 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Maybe there was no deal 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: to be made for a player to have that kind 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: of impact on the defensive side of the ball for Tennessee. 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think there was. But I still 85 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: look at them on that side and say, that's where 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: the real work needs to be done. And I know 87 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: they've made some moves, and I know they've made some 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: acquisitions that they feel are going to improve that side 89 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: of play. So we'll see how it goes. You know, 90 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: it is intriguing for them, and we're gonna get a 91 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: front row seat twice a year to see how it 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: goes for them in this short term. Anyway, it feels 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: very Kansas City Chief's esque. And I've thought about this. 94 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: I've thought about this a lot because over the you know, 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: as this was happening, I was like, boy, that defense 96 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: could have used a shot in the arm more so 97 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: than the offense did. Yes, they did lose john Us Smith, 98 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: and they lost Jack Conklin the year before that, so 99 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: they've lost some firepower in the offensive side. Look, they 100 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: still have Derrick Henry coming back, and they used to 101 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: have a J. Brown. Now you throw Julio in there. 102 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: I was listening to John Lopez and Waite Smith today 103 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: on in the Loop and they had had a couple 104 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: of things as I was driving, and I was listening 105 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: to him and one of us, look, there's one football. 106 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: They can't all have the ball at once. So if 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: Henry has got it, we're used to seeing that, then 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: AJ and Julio don't. If Julio doesn't have it, or 109 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Julio has it, then A J. Brown doesn't have it. 110 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: And he's been a scarier dude against the Texans than 111 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: anybody has then Julio has. Julio has had not had 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: great success against the Texans. But that's a different day 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: in time. But it's very Chiefs esque in the fact that, Okay, 114 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: the defense isn't where I know Mike Rabel would like 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: it to be. And I think what he's done and 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: he and General Robins could have done, is, you know what, 117 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: we can't build that defense overnight. We don't have the 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: pieces in place for the defense to be great. Whereas 119 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers had the pieces to be a 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: great defense. So they yes went and got Tom Brady 121 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: and got him at a semi discount. I guess, but 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: they already had the pieces to be great defensively, so 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: they could be a balanced team in total. The Chiefs 124 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: looked at it, went, Okay, we've done a lot to 125 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: try and prove the defense, but we're just gonna have 126 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: to outscore guys because we're just not good across the board. 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: We'll try and find a move here and move there, 128 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: but we can't just wipe that thing down and start 129 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: all over again. We got money in Tan Honey Badger, 130 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: we got money in Frank Clark, you know, Chris Jones. 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: We've got some pieces we could build to become a 132 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: better defense. But they're like, you know what, we got Pat, 133 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 1: we got this offense. We're just gonna try to outscore people. 134 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: It felt like the Titans looked at it and went, look, 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: we got Jeffrey Simmons and that's pretty much it defensively. 136 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Bayard two, we don't have enough pieces defensively to 137 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: be a great balanced offense defense team, so let's just 138 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: dominate on offense and see with our running game where 139 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: their teams can outscore us. Because if we get a 140 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: lead on somebody, they gotta stop Henry and they're not 141 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it. So it's almost if 142 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: they took a Kansas City Chiefs sort of approach, and 143 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: that is, we're gonna score thirty five on you. Can 144 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: you get to thirty eight on us, especially if we 145 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: get a lead, because then you gotta try and handle 146 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. And I'm like, that's it's a different way 147 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: of thinking in some sense. But the way the Chiefs 148 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: were thinking a few years ago when they went into 149 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: the draft second round, they needed a corner badly. They 150 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: needed corners. What they do they draft to Miko Hardman. 151 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: They didn't go get a corner. They ain't got more 152 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: offensive firepowered. What the dude? They end up going to 153 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: win a championship that year. So they just fed the 154 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: stronger beast and hope that that beast would take over, 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: and it did. Brought them from behind in all three 156 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: playoff games that they played in that twenty nineteen season. 157 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: They still have to get better defensively to do it 158 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: for a long stretch of time. That's why I think 159 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay would be good again because offense defense. If 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the offense doesn't do it for you, the defense can 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: still win you a game. Neither the tips of the 162 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs can do that, so it's gonna be interesting to see. 163 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. There's no Arthur Smith. So 164 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: there's no Arthur Smith calling plays. And I think that's 165 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: a massive deal because I think Arthur Smith was huge 166 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: for Ryan Tannehill's career. Now, I don't think that Ryan 167 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Tannehill FAFA Cliff. In fact, I think he is an 168 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: excellent I think he's a top ten quarterback in his league, 169 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: top twelve at worst. I think he's excellent. And I 170 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: think Arthur Smith kind of stoked that fire that maybe 171 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't need to be there to keep that fire going. 172 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: But it is a new coordinator and we've seen it 173 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: happen in Tennessee. You know, Matt Lafloor took over in 174 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Matt was all some play caller, he was everything, 175 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: and then that Tennesse offense just didn't go anywhere in 176 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. But then the next year, Arthur Smith moves 177 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: up as Lafleur moves on, and you're like, wait a second, 178 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: who's this guy? And he turns into one of the 179 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: better offensive coordinators in the entire league. So that's one 180 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: thing that I think we'll have to get factored in 181 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: Todd Downing and how he is his offensive coordinator and 182 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: how he puts all those pieces in the right spots 183 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: and keeps everybody happy. That is going to be interesting 184 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: to see. Also interesting to see, Mark, is how you 185 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: handle today's topic of AFC South's best. You ready, So 186 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: this is best or most depending on how I phrase 187 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: this right? This does not include the Texans. I took 188 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: the Texans out because our emotions and bias will play 189 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: in and I don't want that to happen. Three teams Jacksonville, Tennessee, Indianapolis. 190 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: So when the Texans face these teams, they're facing the 191 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: best in the division. So here we go right off 192 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: the top, and this will be offensive slanted today. So 193 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: right after the top, what is the AFC South's best 194 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: overall offense Indianapolis, Tennessee or Jacksonville. Well, I still have 195 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: to go. I still have to go Tennessee because look, 196 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: I know that Indianapolis has a good running game, good line, 197 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: another replacement and left tackle. They still have issues, if 198 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: you will, or question marks at pass catching. But with 199 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: the Titans, when you go with Derrick Henry and what 200 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Bryan Tannehill has been able to do with him, and 201 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: then you go Brown and what he's been doing as 202 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: far as the upward mobility and improvement. Then you add 203 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Julio Smith. Johnny Smith is a big loss to me, 204 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: but I think they've can find ways to overcome that. 205 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even put Jacksonville in the same class right now. 206 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: There's so many question marks with a rookie quarterback. I 207 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: don't care how good he is. Come up like Peyton 208 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Manning through a gazillion interceptions his rookie year and he 209 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: turned out to be one of the best of all time. 210 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: Maybe that's Trevor Lawrence. I'm not saying Lawrence is gonna 211 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: throw gazillion interceptions. We've gotten a little spoiled, Johnny. With 212 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks playing really well right off the bat. Maybe 213 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Lawrence does that, but that is a heavy assumption. You 214 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: already have a proven track record with what the Titans 215 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: can do. Stop it stop Derek Henry, good luck with that, 216 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: because if they're healthy with that running game, it's gonna 217 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: make everybody look better. Now if they run into injuries, 218 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: but if any team runs into injuries, they've got concerns. 219 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: The Titans are the best offense right now. I don't 220 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: disagree with that. I think overall, I think it's interesting. 221 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: If Carson Wentz is back in twenty seventeen form, then 222 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: it becomes now now I got to think about that 223 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. If Carson Wentz gets there, there is 224 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: no guarantee. So I ask you this. You brought up 225 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Tervor Lawrence. It's funny because you brought Peyton Manning as well, 226 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: and his rookie year. You through twenty eight interceptions. I 227 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: think it's still a record. Of course, we know Payton 228 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: Manning would turn out to be. On the other side 229 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: of you have Justin Herbert, who was fantastic last year. 230 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: Right If you had to bet Trevor Lawrence being one 231 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: or the other, which way would you go? More pay 232 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: Manning or more Justin Herbert? If I bet Manny, am 233 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: I saying he's gonna turn out to be an all 234 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: time great eventually, but have a shaky rookie year. If 235 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm just talking rookie yearn just the likelihood is less 236 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: like Herbert is more like a guy who struggles his 237 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: rookie year. I mean, Herbert, I think is an outlier. Look, 238 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: I know that you know Deshaun had his great six 239 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: and a half games as a rookie before he got hurt. 240 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Mahomes didn't play, you know, other Baker Mayfield came on 241 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: and it looked pretty good. You know, Murray looked pretty good. 242 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: You saw some promise for the future, no doubt you 243 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: seen some good flashes lately. But it's a lot to ask. 244 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: Ask Ryan Tannehill what it's like to start as a 245 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. Because he did it in Miami, I think 246 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: that it's it's a lot to ask, especially coming into 247 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: a bad team situation, right, you know, even the Texans, Johnny, 248 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: the Texans, you know, coming off twenty sixteen division champions, 249 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: have some pelts, if you will, relative to the division 250 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: and making the playoffs last couple of years before twenty seventeen. 251 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: Not a terrible situation to come into for a rookie quarterback, 252 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: am I right? You know, Lawrence is coming into a 253 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: situation where Jacksonville has been terrible since twenty seventeen, and 254 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: they were terrible before that. So I'm not saying I'm 255 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: not thinking that it's all the seeds are sown and 256 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: ready to go now with the Chargers. Philip Rivers. Think 257 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: about what he did the year before he left. But 258 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: two years before he left, they were good. They were 259 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: a playoff team. They'd beat Baltimore in Baltimore when Lamar 260 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: Jackson was a rookie. I think that Herbert stepped into 261 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: an okay situation and just took it to another level. 262 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't expect Lawrence to do that. Okay, AFC South's 263 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: best offensive line. Well, you could answer this better than me. 264 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: So we're taking the Texans out of it, okay, and 265 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: by away with a new left tackle in Indy. I'm 266 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: not saying the Texans are completely out of this competition here, 267 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: all right. It's very unknown because we don't know, like 268 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: where are they playing Cannon, what's gonna have with Titus? 269 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: You know, you got Laramie and left tackle. Great, A 270 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of teams would love to have Laramie as their 271 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: left tackle. We'll see how it goes. You know, if 272 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: Britt can return to his form, a lot of teams 273 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: would love to have him at center. So you get 274 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns, but we're just taking the other 275 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: three right now, right now. Look, Eric Fisher takes over 276 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: at left tackle for Indie. Yes Quin Nelson, Ryan, Kelly Gowinsky, 277 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: Brad Smith, that's Indie, all right. So Indie has the 278 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: best set up, you know, because and we've seen teams heck, 279 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the Texans themselves without Laramie in the lineup, we're able 280 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: to pass, protect pretty well and put up big numbers 281 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: late last season. So I would probably have to say 282 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: Indie overall based on you know what you're looking at 283 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: their projected wise, but projected wise. But with the Titans, 284 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: I still like what they're able to do with Derrick Henry, 285 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: but Henry is a big part of that. They work 286 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: in concert well together. I'll go Windy. Okay, this one's 287 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna sound strange, but just go with me. AFC South's 288 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: best backfield and this is why I say it this way. 289 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee Derrick Henry, Jacksonville, James Robinson, Carlos Hide and Travis Etienne. 290 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Jonathan Taylor, Marlon Mack backhealthy, Naim Hines and even 291 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Wilkins. So in one place you got one guy, 292 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: in another place you got two plus a weapon X threat. 293 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: And in one place you have four legitimate options. Which 294 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: one is the best overall backfield? Look Taylor five yards 295 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: per carry last year, Mac coming back, that's big, right, Jacksonville. 296 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: We don't know about the rookie. Look looks good on paper, 297 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: looks good on the huff, like you say, and Robins. 298 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: Robinson looked pretty good last year, right, But I'm not 299 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: ready to go there. You know, David Johnson averaged more 300 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: yards per carry than Robinson, like little known fact here, 301 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: but we all rape about Robinson. Yeah, but here's the thing, 302 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, I'm gonna stick to this. I don't care 303 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: if he's one guy. You know, it's like talking about 304 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: quarterback depth. Okay, if you're talking about depth. Yeah, they 305 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: might not have the depth, but the one guy they 306 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: have is so supreme to me, and I've said this 307 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: many times. He should have been the league MVP last year. 308 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry makes them have the best backfield. Now, purists 309 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: would say the backfield includes the quarterback, but we're not 310 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna do that right now. Yeah I did, That's true. 311 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: I didn't do that. It would be Tannehill, Trevor Lawrence, 312 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz. All of them are capable. I don't 313 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: know how many offensive coordinators of those three places are 314 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: drawn up place for them to run, but they're all 315 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: capable getting out hurt. You Una, Scramble. I thought this 316 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: was phenomenal. Mark. I went on last Friday, I wrote 317 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: this article about the about running games because you know, 318 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: all let's talking about Rex burkehead and why did the 319 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: Texans sign him and what are they doing? And you know, 320 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of just noise, and I was like, wait, 321 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: let me, let me look at what the running games 322 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: did last year and how they were constructed. So I 323 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: look at the top ten NFL team rushing leaders and 324 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: it was kind of it was interesting to look at 325 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: how all ten were built differently. Like you had the 326 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: Patriots that had four guys that accounted four at least 327 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: twelve percent of the total yardage total four guys. Then 328 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: in Cleveland you had two, you had Chubb and Hunt, 329 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: and then in Philadelphia you had four, but two of 330 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: them are quarterbacks. You had the Rams that had four, 331 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: you had three guys and then somebody a receiver. Then 332 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: you had Tennessee. Derrick Henry accounted for seventy five percent 333 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of Tennessee's rushing yardage in twenty twenty. 334 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: The only other one that got close was Dalvin Cook 335 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: and that was sixty four percent. Well, that speaks to 336 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: my MVP argument a little bit. But Johnny, let's go 337 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: back to the quarterbacks here in the AFC South. You 338 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: have Tannehill, you have Trevor Lawrence, you have Carson Wentz. 339 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: Take the running backs out of it, take Tennessee's ground 340 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: attack out of it. If if I said to Tennessee, 341 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: all right, mister Robinson, will you take Trevor Lawrence instead 342 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: of Ryan Tannehill right now for this year, what do 343 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: you do it? That's a great question. I would say no, No, 344 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: I would say urious, right, yeah, Ryan tannw If you said, 345 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: if you said you get Trevor Lawrence for the rest 346 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: of his career, well that's different. Yeah, that's different. Tande 347 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: hills on into his thirties at this point, thirty one, 348 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: I think. So that's a different question. But yeah, right now, 349 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: you want Tanney Hill. There's no question. How about this. 350 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: You've got I'll give you a healthy, guaranteed healthy Carson Wentz. 351 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's gonna play, but he's gonna 352 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: stay healthy for seventeen games plus whatever you do in 353 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: the postseason. Take him straight up. For Ryan Tannehill right now, 354 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking on Tannehill. No, you take a Tannehill. Tannehill, 355 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: look Tannehill. Tannehill and Wentz have this in common. They 356 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: are both first round draft choices who were left for 357 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: dead right basically, I mean, come out, got rid of 358 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: all Tannehill available, and both guys health problems where they 359 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: originally drafted because Tannehill, as we all remember, was unhealthy, 360 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: unable to go when the Dolphins finally broke through and 361 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: made the playoffs in his tenure and had to go 362 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh with Matt Moore play so health and Matt 363 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: Moore did not pull a Nick Foles. So health clearly 364 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: a problem for both guys. But Tannehill's overcome that for now, 365 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: for now, for not the Tennessee Titans. But these are 366 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: interesting questions to me because man as Ryan Tannehill come around, right. 367 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: But that's what Indie's hoping, because you're right, Wentz could 368 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: go back to the previous form, but he's never really 369 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: done it the whole way through, you know, so he's 370 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: got to remove that kind of doubt. And I think 371 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: that's why there's some hesitation to really get Indie to 372 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: be a favorite, or at least, I don't know, a 373 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: dark horse to they're definitely a dark horse more than 374 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: that to win the division, but a favorite to do 375 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: any kind of damage in the AFC playoffs. Okay, so 376 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: let's circle all the way back around. Okay to what 377 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: we talked about the beginning of the segment, that being, 378 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Julio goes in Tennessee, give me the AFC South's best 379 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver. In Jacksonville, you have DJ Chark, who took 380 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: a step back Urban mar had some interesting things to 381 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: say about him. But you've also got Marvin Jones there. 382 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: You've got Colin Johnson, a young guy. In Tennessee, you 383 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: have Julio, you have AJ in Indianapolis, you have t 384 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: Y Hilton, you have Michael Pittman, you have Paris Campbell, 385 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: who nobody's ever seen. Who's the AFC South's best wide 386 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: receiver right now? It's Julio Jones. And you know, you 387 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: look at the yards per game in his career and 388 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: it's ten yards better than everybody else. I mean, that's 389 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: that's a phenomenal stat right there, over a career, ten 390 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: yards average per game. I mean, that's sick. You know, 391 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like much, but you gotta look at 392 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: what it takes to get that number. That's a first 393 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: down extra per game per game. That's considering how long 394 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: he's played. He's definitely the best receiver in the league 395 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: right now. That's easy to say. Right now. You look 396 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: at Brown year one to year two, jump was really good. 397 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Will he do year two to year three? We'll see. 398 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: I think Brandon Cooks is nowhere outside of the top 399 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: four receivers in the division. Okay, I know we're yeah, 400 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: but you still look. I know how everybody feels about 401 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: what's happening, but Brandon Cooks is still Look, Julio got 402 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: traded for IT two. You know who got traded for 403 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: IT two and some other stuff. Cooks got traded for 404 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: A one and that got traded for another one that 405 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: got traded for IT two. I mean Cooks. That says 406 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: something about the way people feel about his talent, how 407 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: it's valued. Brandon Cooks is certainly one of the best 408 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: in the division. That we'll see all the rest of 409 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: the troops shake out here. How will you feel if 410 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: by the end of the year, the AFC South's best 411 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver is Nico Collins. How will you feel, Johnny, 412 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: I will feel so good. Come on, I'll be floating, 413 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: you know, me that would be outstanding. I would ask 414 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: you who the best tight end is in division. But Mark, 415 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: here are your options, Jack Doyle, Tim Tebow, games, O'Shaughnessy 416 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: and probably the guy we would all say is Anthony 417 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: ferks Are from Tennessee. It's not the tight end division 418 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: that it was a few years ago when Indie had 419 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Doyle and Ebron and Tennessee you had John U. Smith. 420 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: It's not the tight end division was it was a 421 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: few years ago. So maybe maybe that goes by the wayside. 422 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. The receivers in this division 423 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: are rediculous, ridiculous, So secondary is better. Get ready to 424 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: face and now Julio Jones gets added in as well. Mark, 425 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: you did very well with the AFC South's best. Appreciate 426 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: your time, my friend. Thanks Johnny. All right, coming up next, 427 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have our Drews dozen with Camu Grugier Hill. 428 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: He is fantastic. This is a really fun interview. You 429 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: want to stay tuned to Texans All Access Access Access. 430 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Monday edition of Texas All Access 431 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris. 432 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: Football and a side that reporter. Glad to be with 433 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: you now during the season. This is most of the 434 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: time during the season, my man Drew Doherty, co host 435 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: of in the Lab podcast, and you see him on 436 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Texas three six, which, by the way, you will see 437 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: yours truly on Saturday nights, so make sure you tune 438 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: into that, but you should June in every Saturday so 439 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: you can see Drew. Drew is fantastic, We are great friends. 440 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: We've been doing this for a long time. But during 441 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: the season, I always love getting Drew's interviews. I get 442 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: a Deep Slay from Deep and I get Drew's dozen 443 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: from Drew, And there are always two of my favorite 444 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: interviews during the week because Drew is so good at 445 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: getting players to answer her. Questions that are a little 446 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: left of center, if you will, I eat not very 447 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: footballly questions, Hey what do you think about that tackle? 448 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: What you made it? On third and six? Now it's 449 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: more like, hey, if you were going to the Rock 450 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame, which guitar would you steal? 451 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix or Princes which, by the way, Prince would 452 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: have turned sixty three today. Moment of silence, Man, I 453 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: love Prince anyways, point being, Drew Doherty does a tremendous 454 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: job with Drews, doesn't I love that segment? So we decided, Hey, 455 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: let's try and do one in the off season with 456 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: some of the guys the off season, because maybe during 457 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: the off season is a posted season, maybe the guys 458 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: are a little looser and kind of roll with the 459 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: punches a little bit more. Not that they don't durn 460 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: the season, but you know, look, they're thinking about the game, 461 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: thinking about game week, all that kind of stuff. Maybe 462 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: the trip that we have to take if it's a 463 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: road game, Durney off season, peel the curtain back a 464 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: little bit, have a little fun. And that's what Drew 465 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: did with linebacker Camu Grugier Hill. This is gonna be 466 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: a fun one. Take a listen to Drew's dozen done 467 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: now for a Drews dozen. We haven't done this in 468 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: a while, and the perfect guy to do it with 469 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: is linebacker special teamer Hawaiian gruger Hill. How you doing, 470 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: my friend? What's going on? I'm great man? Thanks for 471 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: having me. Well, first things first, I mentioned Hawaiian in there, 472 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: and I've been able to go to Hawaii twice. I 473 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: got I'm so old up covered Pro Bowls there. I 474 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: got to cover a few of them, and I love it. 475 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: I want to go back. I miss it so so 476 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: very much. And you've recently talked about how you thought 477 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: Houston has some similarities to your home there in Honolulu. 478 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: What are they? How could you possibly make that kind 479 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: of you know, I'm blessed and I'm definitely a little spoiled, 480 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: um just being there and being able to go home 481 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: and um on the in the off season or you know, whenever, 482 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: to just really call that home. But I mean, believe it, 483 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, like I love it here. I 484 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: love it here in Houston. Um, it's really just you know, 485 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: the hospitality and just the warmth of everyone, you know, Um, 486 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: just the love I feel and just everyone's so nice. 487 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: You know. It's just I kind of really have, at 488 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: least my experience I've you know, Uh, it definitely gets 489 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: a little has a little feel from home. Yeah. I'm 490 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: glad to hear that I'm from here too, So it's 491 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: good to know that you see some some shades of 492 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: home here in Houston. You know. One of the zillion 493 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: things that I loved about my time in Hawaii was 494 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: spam moosu be Oh you can't beat it man. Those 495 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: who okay, you you like it. So for those who 496 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: don't know what that is, can you just please explain it? 497 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: And can you explain how often you would eat it 498 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: growing up? Yeah? Okay, So spam must be is it's 499 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: It sounds bad, but it's it's like cut up spam. 500 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: It's a slice of spam um on rice and it's 501 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: wrapped in we call a nody, which is just seaweed 502 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: or u you know, seaweed wrap. And it sounds it 503 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but until you try it, it is. Literally 504 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: it's amazing, and it's it's kind of one of those things. 505 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I I've had it since I was I 506 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: can't even remember. You know, it's one of those things 507 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: you're playing youth soccer or you know, youth sports and 508 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: at halftime or after the game, you come you have 509 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: like a bag of chips and a spam ust to 510 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: be so um. You know. Whenever my family comes out 511 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: to visit, they always bring a bunch for some of 512 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: the teammates and I always uh convert them to to 513 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: loving it. So it's definitely definitely a good treat. That 514 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: was a staple when I was in in the Pro 515 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: Bowl covering those practices. On the morning, we get one 516 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: of those and a diet doctor Pepper and roll out 517 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: to practice. Anyways, you just brought up soccer, so that 518 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: was your sport, and you didn't play American football until 519 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: your junior year of high school. What position did you 520 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: play in soccer? I was a forward? Okay, yeah, yeah, 521 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: I like to I like the score, which is which 522 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: is different because then I went to football to play defense. 523 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: Never scored, so yeah, kind of you Did you have 524 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: a favorite soccer player growing up or do you have 525 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: one now? Yeah? Growing up, it was Ronald Danio. I 526 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: loved him, the Brazilian man. It was uh. I love 527 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: soccer and it is really my first love and it's 528 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: kind of you know, God's really just had his his 529 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: grace over my life and and he kind of just 530 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: directed me into um my path with football and it's 531 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: it's been amazing. So it is Brazil, you're when the 532 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: World Cup's going on? Is Brazil the team you're you're 533 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: cheering four outside of the United States? Yeah, I was 534 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna say outside of the United States. Yeah, Brazil would 535 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: be a second. I got you. Okay, So what's your 536 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: what's your professional team that you love? It was Barcelona 537 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: because he was mainly with Barcelona. It was Barcelona for 538 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, and then I kind of switched over. 539 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: I you know, I had no loyalty the soccer game. 540 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: It was you know that started liking Chelsea a little bit. 541 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: I got you. Is that your team? Now? You know, 542 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: I've kind of fallen out out of the soccer game. 543 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't keep up with as much. But you know, 544 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: in high school I was, I was heavy into it. Okay, 545 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: so you played soccer growing up. You're from Hawaii, you 546 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: also played football. You have to no Kaimie Fairburn from 547 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: back then, right, I mean it. Yeah, what's what's your 548 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: background with Kimie? Well, not only that, I mean we 549 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: went to rival high school. So I was seen this 550 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: guy four times a year, you know, like, um, and 551 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: it's funny because I was. I was actually just at 552 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: his house this past weekend and I was telling him. 553 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, it's funny. We we knew you 554 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: were going to the league like your junior year of 555 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: high school. Really, bro, he was unbelievable in high school. Yeah, 556 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: that good? What makes sense? I mean he did win 557 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: the Kicker of the Year award in college when he 558 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 1: was at UCLA and then came here and he's been 559 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: great ever since. So you can kick too. I don't 560 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: know that everyone knows that Philadelphia Eagles fans, but you 561 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: had to kind of fill in as a kicker. And 562 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth was amazed when you did it on Sunday 563 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: Night football. But and you played soccer. Yeah, like, I 564 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: got this, no problem. You kicked it to the goal one. 565 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: It's one of those things that I knew. I was like, no, 566 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: I got this, and then I woke up the next 567 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: morning and it's like, wow, I haven't done this so 568 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: many years. My whole leg was black and blue? Was 569 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: it really just from that? Just from that? Yeah. I 570 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: was even telling Amy about that. I was like, does 571 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: your does your do you ever get bruises or anything? 572 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: He's like no, And I was like, well I did. 573 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: That's great stuff. Okay, Um, who has the best hair 574 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: on the Houston Texans right now? Best hair? Ah, I'm 575 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: guys need to step the hair game out here for sure, 576 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: But I would have to go with Collie. Um. It 577 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: was the last because he just has that surfer boy 578 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, the hair, right Now a lot of people 579 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: tease him that he dyed it, and he's he's he's 580 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: denying it, but I think he did too, You think so? 581 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: And he's he's got a whole in background as yeah, yeah, 582 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: yeah he does. Now is camu is? Is that your 583 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: your full first name? Or is that a shortening of 584 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: because like Kyini is not? You know, no, yeah, so 585 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: my my it's short form. Yeah. Comeell okay, okay, good 586 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: to know. Good to know, because Kahali means I think 587 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: tower to the heavens or wind from the I can't 588 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: remember what he explained it on this podcast. I got 589 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: one of those long names too. All right, Hey, you 590 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: mentioned that you've been You've gone to a few teammates houses. 591 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: You've done some some grilling, some barbecuing. Who's the best 592 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: cook so far that you've encountered on the Texans? You 593 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: know who's actually a sleeper? As Jordan Jenkins. This guy 594 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: throws throws some stuff on a grill. That's pretty impressive. 595 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: What was that? What are we talking about here? What 596 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: did you get going? Well, he's he's heavy into stakes, 597 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: but the way his preparation is is the sleeper. He 598 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: really he really does it up in. I mean, I 599 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: think this guy's eating stakes like five days a week. 600 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna cure you guys. I mean you have people over. 601 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're going with a lesser end products you. Yeah, no, 602 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: he's taking care of us. You can steak. That's that's 603 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: a good teammate to stay around and he's giving you steaks, 604 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: and steaks are delicious. Okay. What was your favorite TV 605 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: show growing up? It's hard to be SpongeBob Man SpongeBob. 606 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: Which Sebob character did you identify with the most? I can't. 607 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I can. I can really relate. You 608 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: can't relate with cartoon characters now and now one I 609 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I can't give you one of that. 610 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: What do you do to relax these days? In Houston 611 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: or Hawaii? I call him. I love just going to 612 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: the beach with the family. Man, I just said, the 613 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: beach all day and some of the water, relax, surf 614 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. But out here, I mean, I've 615 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: just been hanging out some of the guys on the team, 616 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: getting getting to know some some people, and you know, 617 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: I find a nice church out here that I really love. 618 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: So um, it's been great. Man. That's good. Tell me 619 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: about the defense. What have you been most impressed with 620 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: the first few weeks of OTAs as far as what 621 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: you think you might be able to do well. I 622 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: just love you know, the way he love uh is 623 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: it runs his defense, and I mean the guy's a legend, 624 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, He's he really allows you to just be 625 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: a player and just play and play fast, and um 626 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, for the first time in my career, I 627 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: really feel like, um, I can I can be used 628 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: to my full full capability, you know. So I'm really 629 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: excited for that. What is your full capability? I mean 630 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: just just being able to run, run, and gun man, 631 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: just just find a ball, all right. Way back when 632 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: the transition from home to college, you went to Eastern Illinois, 633 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: What was the big difference there for you? What was 634 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge and change? It was the biggest difference 635 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 1: in every single way possible. I remember, I never left 636 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: Hawaii in my life. I didn't even have a visit 637 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: to Eastern Illino. I actually just got dropped off there. 638 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: And the first shock to me was the cornfields. I 639 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: was rattled about that. The people were you know, I 640 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: don't know, no offense to Illinoy people, but they're a 641 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: little different there too, is everything my first time seeing seasons, 642 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, four seasons and seeing the leaves change, and 643 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: my first time seems to know too, So that's a 644 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 1: big it's a big difference than what you had back home, 645 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: for sure. Absolutely, listen, we're really excited to have you. 646 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on with us, and we can't 647 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: wait to talk with you more in the future. Best 648 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: of luck this season, best of luck this offseason. And 649 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: one last thing, how often do you get to go 650 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: home to Hawaii these days? Hey? Usually? You know, if 651 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm if I'm not here, I'm there. Oh whever I'm 652 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: not in season or in training, I'm there. So getting 653 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: back a little bit good to hear. All Right, We'll 654 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: take care. Thanks for the time we're talking to you. 655 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: Against awesome, bron I talk to you soon, all right. 656 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: All right, you know, I gotta let that fucking music 657 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: fade out at the very end, But that was great stuff. 658 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: And appreciate route for getting that done in the off season, 659 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: and maybe we convinced you to do more of those 660 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: because they are outstanding. Outstanding. I like to see Drew 661 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: du A Drew's dozen with either and or and or 662 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: or both whatever. I don't know however you would say it, 663 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: Nikos Sario, David Colly, It would be kind of fun. Anyways, 664 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: I digress. We have one segment last. We'll go round 665 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: the league next. Julio Jones big news yesterday led the way, 666 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: but there's more. We'll do that next. Right here at 667 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: Texans Oxis, we got one final segment of this edition 668 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. I am your host, John Harris, 669 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: glad to be with you yet again. The seismic news 670 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: us the word seismic because I think one player won't 671 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: often seemingly shift the fortunes of the entire NFL. But 672 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: Julio Jones is one of those players. Now, I don't 673 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: think we looked at Atlanta and thought, okay, well with Julio, 674 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta was going to be one of those teams. But 675 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City with Julio could have been one of those teams. 676 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: Seattle with Julio and DK good Grief and Tyler Lockett, 677 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: that would have been one of those teams. What have 678 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: you going to Indianapolis? How does that change things there 679 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis? So it had seismic you know, impact throughout 680 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: the league and especially the AFC and most especially in 681 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: the AFC South, And of course the Titans have been 682 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: talking about it all day long. A. J. Brown is like, 683 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: I'm the best recruiter of the world because he has 684 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: been pushing hard for Julio to join the Titans for 685 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: a long time. Albert Bruces got a pretty good article. 686 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: He actually talks to John Robinson about what it took 687 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: to really get this deal together, and apparently the sticking 688 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: point was Atlanta, knowing that a second round pick from 689 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee was probably going to be in the fifties, said hey, 690 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: look we need something else. We need to sort of 691 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: sweeten this deal, if you will a little bit. So 692 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee threw on a fourth, Atlanta threw in a sixth 693 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: going the other way, and that's what it took. Julio 694 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: on a sixth for a second and a fourth. Now, 695 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: if you're Tennessee, you're sitting there thinking, well, basically, we 696 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: gave up a third round pick because we're gonna finish 697 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 1: in the top four in the league and we're gonna 698 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: be an AFC championship team with him. That's gonna that's 699 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: gonna make that a like an outside the top sixty 700 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: pick that they're sending to Atlanta. Atlanta is hoping that 701 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee goes in the tank, guys get hurt, and that's 702 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: a three and fourteen team, and then Atlanta is going 703 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: to have themselves a top forty pick. I think it 704 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: is somewhere run at range between fifty five and sixty 705 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: where the Titans end up. Again, we talked about it 706 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: with Mark earlier. That defense. Yeah, they got Nicko Autry, 707 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: who I think is gonna make an impact. Bud Dupree 708 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: is coming off a town acl you know, Harold Landry's 709 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: not kind of done. On the other side, I do 710 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: you think Jeffery Simmons is an absolute dude in the middle, 711 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: But beyond that, Kevin Bayer, it's safety. I love. I've 712 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: always been a big fan of his, but I don't 713 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: think they can cover yet. I think Caleb Farley will 714 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: be a player for them, and I hope it's not 715 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: as a rookie, but I think he's gonna be a 716 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: player if he's healthy. He hasn't had a lot of 717 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: healthy time on the field of Virginia Tech. I love 718 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: Elijah Molden. They got him in the full or the 719 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: end of the third round. I think it ended the 720 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: third round, so I still think that defense could cost 721 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: him at some point. But if they outscore everybody, pooh, 722 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: my goodness, now the Titan's not the only ones doing 723 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: work over the weekend. I thought this is pretty interesting. 724 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson was a safety played for the Ravens, had 725 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: some pretty good years with the Ravens, but he tore 726 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: his ACL in October of twenty nineteen, and that's very 727 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: similar to what happened to Justin Britt. I think was 728 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: week It was somewhere in October time frame between nineteen 729 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 1: and because of that, I think that's, you know, such 730 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: a tough time to tear it, because if you have 731 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: some other structural damage that goes on, man, that could 732 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: be really tough to come back for that in a 733 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: year and be fully healthy to go, especially in the 734 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: COVID year. Well that's what happened Tony Jefferson. He was 735 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: released last February. He was signed by the San Francisco 736 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, so he has in plates. It's October 737 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, but he has headed to San Francisco forty niners, 738 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: where I think he's got an opportunity to play. I 739 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: think it's a good spot. But Tony Jefferson, a guy 740 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: I love coming out of Oklahoma, ends up with the 741 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers after missing a couple of years. 742 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 1: The Ravens. I mentioned them because that's where Tony Jefferson 743 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: had been also making some waves with a running back, 744 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: not a well, not a rookie anymore, but not JK. Dobbins, 745 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: but their backup. I don't know if that's right away 746 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: saying it. They're co elementary back Gus Edwards. Gus Edwards 747 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: and the Ravens raced a deal two year extension worth 748 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: ten million dollars. Gus Edwards was undrafted coming out of Miami, 749 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: scheduled to make three point three eight million in twenty 750 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,959 Speaker 1: twenty one on a restricted free agent tender, but this 751 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: extension then takes him all the way through twenty twenty three. 752 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: So he'll play internet at three point three eight million 753 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, and then he'll get to two 754 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: years ten million on twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three. 755 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: That I think is it's great for Gus Edwards, but 756 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: if you're looking on the league and you're thinking about 757 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: how running backs are paid throughout the league. If you're 758 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: not a Derrick Henry or you're not a Zekiel Elliott, 759 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: then you're pretty much in this this you know price 760 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: range if you will. He had a pretty solid year 761 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: last year. He's gone for over two thousand yards in 762 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: his career and he's twenty six years old. I think 763 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: it's a good move for the Ravens. Gus Edwards, JK. Dobbins, 764 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and thank god the Texans aren't playing them 765 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 1: this year because I hate facing those three guys. Man. 766 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: That is really really tough to face them, and the 767 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: last two times we faced him, mark Ingram was a killer. 768 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: Well now he's on our side and hopefully he will 769 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: be a killer against other teams. One other piece of 770 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: news about mark Ingram. I don't know if you guys 771 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: saw this. We'll close with this. Mark Ingram became part 772 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: of the ownership group of the Dcunited in the MLS. 773 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: He is now he's not the sole owner, but he 774 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: is one of the group that is going to purchase 775 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: d DC United, said Ingram in a statement. DC United 776 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: are a club richard tradition and ripe with promise. I'm 777 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: excited about the recent investments the club has made to 778 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: build towards the sustainable future and the decisions they've taken 779 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: at the leadership level both on and off the pitch. Additionally, 780 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: the club's values have been on full display recently and 781 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: they aligned with my beliefs of the forward to playing 782 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: an active role in the ownership group to help our 783 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: club compete for more major trophies and deepen our impact 784 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: in the community. That's pretty cool. So Ingram now joins 785 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: the group of Patrick Mahomes with the Royals, Aaron Rodgers 786 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: with the Bucks, of professional players owning professional teams, obviously 787 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: not in their sports but in other sports. So congratulations 788 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: to mark Ingram, and congratulations to me for finishing the show, 789 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: to all of you for listening, Joanna for producing, and 790 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: just get it done on Monday. You guys are the best. 791 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow and as always, go Texans.