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Speaker 3: Oh, it's not just an aeron Torres and Dan By

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Speaker 3: our show. It is far from that aeron Torres. First

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Speaker 3: things first, I have to say happy birthday to my wife.

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Speaker 3: So it's my wife's birthday today. But for what I

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Speaker 3: don't know, fifth sixth thirty second possible time eron Torres.

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Speaker 3: We are getting together on a Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm great happy first of all, I mean most importantly,

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Speaker 5: happy birthday to your wife.

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Speaker 6: Happy thays Giving.

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Speaker 5: It's been a few and I think it's not just Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 5: if I if I read the Facebook invite correctly, it's

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Speaker 5: not just Thanksgiving, right.

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Speaker 4: You are correct eron Torres.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: You know the music, ladies and gentlemen we present to you. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's our friends giving, our friends giving.

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Speaker 4: Drop is here?

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Speaker 3: Do we have our friends Giving drop, Hello, Friendsgiving drop.

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Speaker 2: It's the buyer there.

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Speaker 6: It is all right, welcome in.

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Speaker 3: When you hear this music, When you hear that doorbell,

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Speaker 3: you know someone is here. Ryan Smith is here. That's

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Speaker 3: at the door. He's at the door, Ryan smell. Whoa

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Speaker 3: happy friends giving to you? Oh man, what a day?

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Speaker 7: What a day?

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Speaker 3: Brings a tear to my eye. His hands are full.

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Speaker 3: That is that a great being cast role at that?

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Speaker 3: Ryde's Wait, somebody's knocking. Oh my goodness, Aaron, do you

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Speaker 3: know who that is? That's Manzy Belango Moty.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the friends giving. Thank you so happy to

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Speaker 4: be hanging out.

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Speaker 6: Manzi a box of wine?

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Speaker 2: You should well, it's time to celebrate. It's time to celebrate.

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Speaker 4: Well, it is great to have you here, it truly is.

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Speaker 3: I hope you and Ryan can can find a seat

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Speaker 3: and we will be welcoming many more.

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Speaker 4: Wait, is that is that? Do I see parking his car? Wait? No,

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Speaker 4: he's at the door. It's our executive producer, Ian Roddy.

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Speaker 8: Happy Thanksgiving, Ian, Happy Thanksgiving, guys Man, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: What a crew that we've got here today. Aaron, It's

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Speaker 3: good to be amongst friends.

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Speaker 5: It is it's uh yeah, We've been doing this for

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Speaker 5: a while now, and but there's nothing only thing better

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Speaker 5: than a Thanksgiving is a friends giving.

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Speaker 6: And excited to be here with you.

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Speaker 3: I know that people are having friends givings today and

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Speaker 3: if you are unable to take part in a friends

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Speaker 3: giving or a thanksgiving of any sort, join us for

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Speaker 3: the next four hours here on Fox Sports Radio. We

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Speaker 3: will be your friends, we will be your family having fun.

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Speaker 3: Various guests will be joining us throughout the program. We're

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Speaker 3: talking a lot of football. And as we were talking

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Speaker 3: in the corner, Christian Watson has just caught a touchdown

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Speaker 3: pass with the green Bay Packers from Jordan love Goes

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Speaker 3: go in the third quarter eron Torres, the Packers lead

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Speaker 3: in this game. Packers beat the Lions earlier this season.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder at one point for Detroit, when you've

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Speaker 4: I fell it was a tough task for the Lions today.

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Speaker 5: So you know, this is the only downside of a

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Speaker 3: They haven't found their their rhythm. And you really can't

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Speaker 3: Hold their end, I don't know on how many shootouts

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Speaker 3: the offense can win. And again, it's not just attrition,

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Speaker 3: really hasn't been a point with the Lions this year

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Speaker 4: Gum playoff time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, a lot of the hallmarks of

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Speaker 6: So excited after two weeks.

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Speaker 5: You know, they have the dominant win ironically against the

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Speaker 6: But I just bring it up because, yes.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they weren't or you know, maybe they aren't or

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Speaker 5: And I think what's interesting is, you know, we get

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Speaker 6: We get so excited about what they've done, and you know, you.

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Speaker 5: Look at the Packers as far as like I said,

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Speaker 4: And they did not meet the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: However, as you mentioned, they did beat the Lions at

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Speaker 5: I mean, like, yeah, the Browns loss isn't you know

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Speaker 6: Basically. It's the point that I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: they really haven't beaten anyone. There's like those those Dolphins

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Speaker 3: But I would rather have a couple of good wins

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Speaker 3: Because in the playoffs, you're only going to face good teams, right,

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Speaker 3: Kansas City dominated the Colts in that game. They had

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Speaker 5: You know, people forget this, Dan, I know, you know

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Speaker 5: Of you got to get younger in a lot of spots,

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Speaker 5: They feel like a team, a game to game team

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Speaker 5: I just look at how Dak handled that situation with Mike.

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Speaker 5: You never heard anything from Dak held the locker room together,

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Speaker 5: Dak has become increasingly easier to root for. I don't

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Speaker 3: He overpaid Dak like he did like even though he's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know you and I obviously filled in

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Speaker 6: Yes, is he really a GM?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: My biggest takeaway was we like, hold that four year

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Speaker 5: Well, and really quick on that note, it was funny

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Speaker 3: We'll also take over Cavino and Rich later on. Here

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Speaker 3: on FSR, he is Aaron Torres and I'm Dan Byer,

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Speaker 3: and I think I just heard somebody, uh knocking at

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Speaker 3: the door.

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Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure that is somebody, Aaron. Can you

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Speaker 4: check the window?

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Speaker 6: Can you see?

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Speaker 3: Oh wait wait, let's welcome in our good friend, Adam

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Speaker 3: Kaplan to our friends Giving here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 10: Hello, Adam, welcome in, guys, Yeah, thank you, I'm in

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Speaker 10: very warm, welcome. It is a little chili out there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Can I take Can I take those mashed

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Speaker 3: potatoes from you? We will be eating those later on.

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Speaker 3: Here you go, Aaron, Just I don't know Ian can

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Speaker 3: you take those into the kitchen, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Matzi brought a couple of boxes of wine, Adam, if

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Speaker 3: So one was half empty, which I questioned her about.

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Speaker 3: But hey, we're all friends here on this friends giving.

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Speaker 3: Are the Green Bay Packers in your circle of trust,

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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan?

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Speaker 7: It's so funny.

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Speaker 10: I don't know why you went there, but you know

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Speaker 10: that's something I do for Sports Square. I have my

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Speaker 10: circle of trust every month.

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Speaker 3: We talk about it, by the way, like when even

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Speaker 3: when you're not on the air, we call it the

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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan Circle of Trust.

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Speaker 10: I didn't know you knew that, Yeah, so yeah, I

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Speaker 10: just came up with it because for gambling, if you're wagering,

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Speaker 10: you're trying to figure out who to back, and I

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Speaker 10: always say, hey, here's a team based on the way

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Speaker 10: if they're playing, based on the way they're coaching what

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Speaker 10: I've heard that they have a better chance of covering

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Speaker 10: than not. Now, look, the Patriots have sort of defied

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Speaker 10: logic that The Packers completely frustrate me because now they're

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Speaker 10: doing great today, they're scoring, but their defense isn't stopping

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Speaker 10: anyone today with Detroit with all their injuries, surprisingly but

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Speaker 10: are they my circle trust?

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Speaker 6: Not really No.

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Speaker 10: From one from the problem is they have when healthy.

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Speaker 10: Arguably Dan one of the top three most talented teams,

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Speaker 10: but for some reason with Matt Lafleur, he coaches very conservatively.

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Speaker 10: Not today, but more often not. And that's what's really

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Speaker 10: gotten by the way in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Adam, let me ask you, he's about the line.

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Speaker 5: And I remember asking you over the summer the impact

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Speaker 5: that Ben Johnson would have. Would it be bigger in

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Speaker 5: a positive way for Chicago in a negative way for Detroit?

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Speaker 6: Certainly been positive in Chicago. But I guess that's.

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Speaker 7: A great question. I remember that. Go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I remember you saying it was a great question. So

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Speaker 6: thank you for bringing.

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Speaker 7: It up, because it's not the way that I would

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Speaker 7: have thought of it.

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Speaker 10: And then you made me think because of but I

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Speaker 5: But but the counter to that is, you know, I

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Speaker 5: did have questions about the replacement of Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 6: I remember you saying, hey, he was a coordinator a

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, eight years ago I reported that he could

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Speaker 10: not connect with the players, and they kind of turned

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Speaker 10: on him. Sure, and unfortunately they didn't turn on here.

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Speaker 10: They just didn't buy in. Yeah, it is really look

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Speaker 10: it coaches growing involved. He's not a bad coach. It's

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Speaker 10: just you got to understand it's a player's game. And

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Speaker 10: Dan Campbell, which is interesting, the second time he's did it,

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Speaker 10: he's done this. He did it his first year in

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty one. He replaced Anthony Lennis a play caller.

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Speaker 10: Now that was odd. I mean, the timing was ridiculous

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Speaker 10: that they were ready oh to eight. But when you

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Speaker 10: ever winning a record and you do it it's not aaron,

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Speaker 10: it's not quite the way you usually do it, but

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Speaker 10: you gotta have a feel for it.

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Speaker 7: And so far, so good.

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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplin joining us here on our Friends Giving special

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Speaker 3: on this Thanksgiving on Fox Sports Radio. He is aeron Torres.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dan Byer, sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today on

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Speaker 3: this holiday tonight, it's the return of Joe Burrow. He

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Speaker 3: matter of fact says, if I'm healthy, I'm going to play.

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Speaker 3: Was there any question considering the loss last week in

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Speaker 3: New England three games back, the tough task of maybe.

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Speaker 4: Not playing Joe Burrow for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 10: No, it's here's the thing. They're technically still alive for

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Speaker 10: a wild card spot. That is why you would play

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Speaker 10: him in week thirteen. He really the word around the

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Speaker 10: club was he probably could have played last week. Remember,

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Speaker 10: he had a severe left turf toe injury. And he is,

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Speaker 10: as Jake Glazier put out, he he Borrow told him

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Speaker 10: he was. So he is so many weeks ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 10: It's pretty impressive. Now to Higgins got lit up. He

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Speaker 10: had a really bad concussion. I don't know how long

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Speaker 10: he's gonna be out for. He's on playing this week.

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Speaker 10: That does hurt them now, I know that Dan. The

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Speaker 10: Bengals were, they were encouraged with the way that they

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Speaker 10: competed last week against the Patriots.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they blew that game.

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Speaker 10: They were up ten nothing, I think, and they their

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Speaker 10: defense actually was pretty good, but their defense mostly has

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Speaker 7: And you know they it's it's ironic.

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Speaker 10: They fired lou Anaroumo, right, he's now the Cults defense coordinator,

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Speaker 10: and look look how the Cults have done.

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Speaker 7: Funny how things work out.

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Speaker 6: Adam, I want to go to the earlier game.

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously, Casey Cowboys I was just talking to

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Speaker 5: Dan about this. I was taking about big picture Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: I find them to be one a good watch for sure,

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Speaker 5: but then two kind of a sympathetic team with the

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Speaker 5: way that deck just you know, the chaos never got

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Speaker 5: to him this summer. And I want to ask you,

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Speaker 5: I know that I was one of many that not

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Speaker 5: only had, you know, doubts about Brian Schottenheimer, but openly

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Speaker 5: kind of mocked the higher And they're five to five and.

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Speaker 7: We're not the only one.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, And that's what I was gonna say. Listen,

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're winning the division. I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: they're winning the super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: What has the.

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Speaker 5: Vibe been in that locker room in that building, because

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Speaker 5: it seemed and by the way, five to five to one,

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Speaker 5: the offense is certainly not the problem. What has just

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Speaker 5: how he's been received as a head coach, and then

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Speaker 5: what the conversation is about him as a head coach

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Speaker 5: around the league.

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Speaker 10: So, okay, here's what happened. Here's kind of the way

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Speaker 10: I understood it. And I'm gonna give you some background

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Speaker 10: on Shotty. So Shoddy coaches hard, he's hard on his players.

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Speaker 10: He was brought in specifically to coach Russell Wilson hard

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Speaker 10: in twenty twenty. He did a phenomenal job. He was

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Speaker 10: behind let Russ Cook. That was his idea to come

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Speaker 10: out throwing. He's done a phenomenal job. He's taking their

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Speaker 10: offense to another level. I get it, George Pickens helps

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Speaker 10: but you're right, Aaron, it's not their offense. It's their defense,

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Speaker 10: which is supposed to be mostly been terrible. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 10: Legal should have put up forty last week easy. They

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Speaker 10: had nine penalties in the second half, two turnovers. So

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Speaker 10: Matty Eberflus, who's an old school what he plays basically

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Speaker 10: mostly his own it is not worked after Mike. It

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Speaker 10: didn't work with Zimmer. Now what they do like is

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Speaker 10: they've changed their defensive front. They're now playing a five

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Speaker 10: man front. They're playing three d tackles and two edges

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Speaker 10: and they I know the Raiders are bad, but they

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Speaker 10: shut down the Raiders after a rough first half day

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Speaker 10: a really good job in the second half. So the

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Speaker 10: vibe is good. The vibe is good. Now they're still

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Speaker 10: out of the playoff race here they it's going to

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Speaker 10: be very hard. I mean, it's it's not impossible they're

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Speaker 10: two and a half games back. But this is this

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Speaker 10: is basically as I said for the Philly game, I

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Speaker 10: thought that was a must to win. They got to

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Speaker 10: win this game, and then you know, that's It's just

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Speaker 10: it's funny how things work out. If they win this game,

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Speaker 10: then they got to play the desperate Lions team in

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Speaker 10: Detroit next Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplin joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, I

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Speaker 3: got one last one for you since you mentioned the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: So now they fired Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 7: They frightful fired, by the way. That was that that

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Speaker 7: had to happen. But that's another story.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, and you mentioned Brian Schottenheimer and Pete

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Speaker 3: Carroll and Carroll even talking about it says that they

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Speaker 3: want to win with defense and special teams some paraphrasing game.

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Speaker 3: But goah, yeah, I just I don't know how much

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Speaker 3: you can do that in today's NFL. What is going

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Speaker 3: on with the Raiders? And I guess my ultimate question,

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Speaker 3: could it be one and done for Pete Carroll this year?

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Speaker 7: I would be surprised.

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Speaker 10: There are too many hands in the cookie jar when

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Speaker 10: they hire too many peat pot of Pinges on hiring

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Speaker 10: Chip Kelly miner staying on the contract. It was a

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Speaker 10: three year deal worth eighteen million, highest paid offensive coordinator

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Speaker 10: I believe in NFL history. Just ridiculous contract, Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 10: The thing is Pete once run him and Schottenheimer didn't.

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Speaker 10: They didn't get along. You know, I've told you this

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Speaker 10: many times Dan over the years. It was it was

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Speaker 10: just a bad match shot. He did a great job,

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Speaker 10: but Pete does not want the quarterback to be a factory.

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Speaker 10: He wants the running game of defense. And by the way,

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Speaker 10: he also fired Tom McMahon. Pete Carroll did the offense

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Speaker 10: the e season, the special teams coach two weeks ago,

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Speaker 10: so they're a total mess.

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Speaker 7: Ashton gent He's just what you're seeing.

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Speaker 10: Is now with bet with a better play caller and schemer,

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Speaker 10: he'll be better next season. But nothing is worked man,

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Speaker 10: gents A. He's a run after contact running back that's

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Speaker 10: old school that he doesn't really fit today's NFL very well.

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Speaker 10: But they're a nightmare and Gino Smith has had a

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Speaker 10: rough season. You can make the argument everyone says the

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Speaker 10: Jets are the worst, and it's not that I'm going

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Speaker 10: to disagree with anyone. The Jets are terrible and Tennessee's

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Speaker 10: got the worst record, but they have a quarterback and

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Speaker 10: I know a bunch of offensive coaches would love to

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Speaker 10: have that job because Kim Work could play. He just

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Speaker 10: needs talent around him and a little bit of our coaching.

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Speaker 10: But the Raiders are an absolute dumpster fire. They're They're

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Speaker 10: really bad, and the problem is they don't have a

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Speaker 10: lot of good players.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're always thankful for Adam Kaplan, who's never a

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Speaker 3: dumpster fire when he judges us, especially on Thanksgiving and Friendsgiving.

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Speaker 3: Wytn't you sit by the fire, kick the feed up

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Speaker 3: and watch them foot fall for the rest of the day. Adam,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much. Happy Thanksgiving, Adam Kaplan, Sports Grid Inside

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Speaker 3: the Birds podcast at Kaplan NFL on X joins me

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Speaker 3: and Carrie Rhoades every Sunday on end Zone Radio on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. Hey, it's Stan Byer here. Sesame Street

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Speaker 3: helped to raise all of us. Now it's our turn.

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Speaker 3: Donate this holiday season at Sesame dot org because the

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Speaker 3: world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. Aaron Torres running

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Speaker 3: shotgun on this Friends Giving in for Doug Gottlieb on

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Speaker 3: The Doug Gottlieb Show. Moncey Milanios, box of wine and

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Speaker 3: so much more at the news desk, giving us the

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Speaker 3: latest of what's happening. What's going on, Monty.

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Speaker 11: Foxwine, No, I would bring I'm bringing real wine up

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Speaker 11: the box wine guys, come on, come on now, I.

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Speaker 6: Can't you finished all the box wine in the carpet.

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Speaker 6: Don't stop.

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Speaker 12: We're not gonna We're not gonna tell that to the listeners.

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Speaker 11: I can't not hear Adam Kaplan calling Brian Schottenheimer shoddy

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Speaker 11: like I think shorty like shoddy.

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Speaker 6: You know. He said. It took me a second at

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Speaker 6: first time, and I was like, oh.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, no, I just gonna be like shorty, Yeah,

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Speaker 11: good guy, shorty, because you know I get called that

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Speaker 11: a lot. But guys, Thanksgiving, friends giving you, That's what

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Speaker 11: I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Yes, like that right.

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Speaker 4: He was about to.

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Speaker 3: Sing an R and B song, about to break it

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Speaker 3: down with your short age nothing alright, Ah.

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Speaker 6: But that's what I've met, That's what I met.

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Speaker 12: The first of three magups today in the NFL still

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Speaker 12: going in Detroit. You have Jared Goff out there blocking

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Speaker 12: for Jamison Williams. Now the Lions are losing by ten

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Speaker 12: to the Packers. It's thirty one to twenty one, still

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Speaker 12: early in the fourth quarter, but Jordan Love has own

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Speaker 12: four touchdown passes, two of them came on fourth down.

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Speaker 12: He is sixteen of twenty six for two hundred and

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Speaker 12: ten yards, while Jared Goff is fourteen of seventeen for

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Speaker 12: one hundred and seventy four yards and two touchdowns. The

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Speaker 12: Lions currently have the ball and they are driving there

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Speaker 12: at Green Bay's twenty eight yard line. Other games that

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Speaker 12: are coming up Chiefs and Cowboys that's at four thirty

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Speaker 12: Eastern time, and the Bengals and the Ravens that's at

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Speaker 12: a twenty Eastern time. And yes, Joe Burrow is expected

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Speaker 12: to start for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: Colts.

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Speaker 11: Quarterback Daniel Jones apparently suffered a fracture in his fibula.

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Speaker 11: The NFL network is reporting that he was a full

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Speaker 11: participant in practice and that he's going to attempt to

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Speaker 11: play through it for Week thirteen against the Texans. There

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Speaker 11: is a video on social media of him not looking

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Speaker 11: that good. I don't know exactly if it's just like

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Speaker 11: a bad video for a moment, but it looked like

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Speaker 11: he was not moving the way you would want your

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Speaker 11: quarterback to move. Okay Giants sid quarterback Jackson dar has

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Speaker 11: cleared concussion protocol, putting him in line to play Monday

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Speaker 11: Night football against the Patriots. When it comes to college football,

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Speaker 11: multiple reports Missouri has agreed to a six year contract

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Speaker 11: with coach Eli Drinkwitz. It includes an average annual salary

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Speaker 11: of ten point seventy five million and expanded resources for

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Speaker 11: his staff through the twenty thirty one season. In the NBA,

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Speaker 11: Warriors anticipate that stuff. Curry is going to miss about

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Speaker 11: a week or so. He's suffered a quo contusion last

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Speaker 11: night against the Houston Rockets, and in golf, two time

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Speaker 11: Major champion Fuzzy Zeller has passed away at the age

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Speaker 11: of seventy four.

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Speaker 4: Back to you guys, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: MONTI lines right now, facing a fourth and three down

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Speaker 3: ten with eleven minutes to go at the Green Bay

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Speaker 3: twenty one yard line.

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Speaker 4: Jamison Williams drops the football.

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Speaker 3: Aaron, this puts them if they would have kicked the

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Speaker 3: field goal in this situation, it's a seven point game,

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Speaker 3: there's under eleven minutes to go. I understand the whole

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Speaker 3: go for it, go for it deal, golf, throw it

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Speaker 3: behind Jamison Williams and they don't convert. But now Green

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Speaker 3: Bay can run the ball, work the clock, and it's

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Speaker 3: still a two score game. Like that's just I understand,

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Speaker 3: like having conviction and what you do, but there's also

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Speaker 3: times that you have to save yourself from yourself, and

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Speaker 3: I think the Lions have missed a huge opportunity to

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Speaker 3: at least make it a one score game. And if

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Speaker 3: you want to get you know, if you want to

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Speaker 3: put your chest out on the next possession, score a

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Speaker 3: touchdown and goal for two, take the lead that way,

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Speaker 3: this was not the not the place to do it

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Speaker 3: for Detroit in my opinion.

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Speaker 5: So I'll be quick here, But I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you've ever heard the audio of JJ Reddick yelling at

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Speaker 5: me on his podcast before he became the Lakers head coach.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure i've at least in passing told you the story.

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Speaker 5: But the the the the line that he used, and

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Speaker 5: it was about two versus threes whatever about me.

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Speaker 6: He said, it's a math equation, f head, And he

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Speaker 6: didn't use fhead. He extended it out.

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Speaker 4: It's Thanksgiving, we keep it clean.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Dan Campbell, it's a math equation. F head

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Speaker 5: kicked the field goal, and I agree with the hundred

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Speaker 5: percent is that. I understand aggression is your ethos all

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Speaker 5: of that, but it really is a math equation. You know,

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Speaker 5: nothing's guaranteed, but you know it's right around what what

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Speaker 5: would you know, what would.

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Speaker 6: Be a chip shot field goal? You kick it there.

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Speaker 5: It is a one score game obviously, you know Dan

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Speaker 5: Campbell chose otherwise. And uh, like I said, I'm all

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Speaker 5: for being aggressive, but it's a equation kick the field

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Speaker 5: goal to make it a one score game.

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Speaker 3: He's erin to as I'm Dan Byer on this friends

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Speaker 3: Giving here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, we've

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Speaker 3: got our Tirac Play of the day. Plus we get

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Speaker 3: I'm Dan Byer on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. It's

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Speaker 2: the Buyer and Torres Friendsgiving on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: And here's the snap look looks downfield, loffs it left

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Speaker 2: side going for Wix over the shoulder, catches made.

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Speaker 6: Is it a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: A tumbling grab in the left side of the end

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Speaker 3: zone A touchdown or not?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: One of four touchdown passes for Jordan Love on the day,

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Speaker 3: two of them to Dontavian Wicks on WR and W

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Speaker 3: and the Packers Radio Network. They continue to lead Detroit

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Speaker 3: thirty one twenty one. Now with under nine minutes to

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Speaker 3: go in Motown. There's a game in Detroit, and there's

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Speaker 3: a game right now on this Frank's Giving. Let's the

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Speaker 3: Friends Giving. Let's play it.

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Speaker 2: This is game time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: Frank'sgiving is in June when all these Franks just get

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Speaker 3: together and they have hot dogs.

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Speaker 4: That's what it is. Months. That's right, Monty.

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Speaker 6: Batter of Frank Reigno coming out of returnment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is good, good call. That would have been

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Speaker 3: much better, Yes, much better off.

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Speaker 4: They both worked.

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Speaker 3: They both worked, all right, Yes, Monsie, what do you

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Speaker 3: got for the game today?

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Speaker 7: Well, we are playing.

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Speaker 11: I feel a draft, that's right, guys, We're gonna be

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Speaker 11: drafting probably just one time around, based on the time,

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Speaker 11: our favorite sports day on the calendar. You know how

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Speaker 11: there's certain days throughout the year that like pertain to

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Speaker 11: a particular sportday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a holiday. It doesn't have to put You

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Speaker 11: get what I'm saying. So we're gonna draft in disorder.

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Speaker 11: It'll go Ian, then Me, then Ryan, then Aaron, and

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Speaker 11: we'll end with you Dan Ian kick us off.

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Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I mean I I'm going with to me.

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Speaker 8: This is the clear number one choice is Christmas because

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Speaker 8: that's the day that you get awesome NBA games and

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Speaker 8: awesome NFL games. Now because the NFL is starting to

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Speaker 8: slowly take over, not even slowly takeover for themselves, but yeah,

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Speaker 8: Christmas is always great games. And those are two of

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Speaker 8: my favorite sports. So easy pick for me.

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Speaker 2: That is an easy one, Ryan, what you got?

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, thinking, thinking, but I want to go

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Speaker 4: with the fourth of July.

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Speaker 3: Nice, all right, Okay, Okay, Merca little baseballs, sitting in

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Speaker 3: a little baseball.

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Speaker 4: There's Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: There's also you know, could be soccer World Cup at times.

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Speaker 11: At times, yes, so I kind of want to piggyback.

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Speaker 6: I'm next.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna piggyback a little bit on Ryan. And it's

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Speaker 11: not that it's a holiday, but it's a day in

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Speaker 11: sports to meet. Because you said fourth of July, I

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Speaker 11: actually prefer Opening Day for baseball. Like the grasses are

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Speaker 11: the best that they're gonna look, all the flags are out,

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Speaker 11: everyone's excited. It's the time of year where the sun

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Speaker 11: is out, and so it's like a holiday for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: Opening day of baseball. I love that day.

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Speaker 5: My favorite thing about Opening Day is like when a

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Speaker 5: they'll sell like completely sell out, and then the next

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Speaker 5: day they play a day game and there's like twelve

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Speaker 3: Well, also Bajor League Baseball, they'll have opening day, and

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Speaker 3: then they'll have a day off.

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Speaker 4: The I say, right, yes, that's annoying.

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Speaker 3: But part of the reason too is if there's bad weather.

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Speaker 3: There's so much value in the Monti's point about opening

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Speaker 3: Day that you then try to play it the next day,

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Speaker 3: so people who have tickets for that day, because otherwise,

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Speaker 3: if you had tickets for the next day, then you're

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Speaker 3: kind of like, well, we just overpaid for Opening Day, right,

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Speaker 3: So that allows you to at least get that premium.

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Speaker 11: Sure, yes, exactly, all right, add on your next all.

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Speaker 5: Right, so I'm gonna throw a little bit of a curveball.

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Speaker 5: I will go college basketball. No, I will say the

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Speaker 5: Friday of Championship week is my favorite day of the year.

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Speaker 5: It's when all the tournaments are going on, all the

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Speaker 5: bad teams have eliminated, all the good teams are playing

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Speaker 5: each other. I've said for years that that week is

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Speaker 5: actually bet more favorite. I like it more than the

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Speaker 5: opening week of the NCAA tournament. I know, I gotta

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Speaker 5: be quick, that's my answer.

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Speaker 4: That's all right.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just wrap it up and say this because

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Speaker 3: it's not happening much anymore. But there was nothing like

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Speaker 3: New Year's Day and college football. There's nothing with all

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Speaker 3: the bowl games, and now we're getting less and least,

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Speaker 3: but there are still some playoff games that are taking

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Speaker 3: place on New Year's Day. But there was nothing like

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Speaker 3: that feel of sitting back and watching the Patch and

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Speaker 3: Tree of college football game.

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Speaker 2: This is game time on The Dug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 3: It's not game for the Lions, as Jamis and Williams

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Speaker 3: are just taking the football into Green Bay territory. So

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Speaker 3: the Lions down ten will have it first and ten

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Speaker 3: at the twenty five. He's Aaron, I'm Dan. It's Friends

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Speaker 3: Giving on Fox