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Speaker 1: What is a Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. I'd missed you

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Speaker 1: last week, so it's good to be back with you all.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be back with you, Tasha, and we

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Speaker 1: have I mean, a lot went down last night, but

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Speaker 1: it was still pretty much a straightforward episode. But I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to hear from Brick. We got Rick the entree himself,

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Speaker 1: like wreck getting served on a hot blatterat I have

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Speaker 1: been waiting to have work on as well as everyone

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Speaker 1: who has listening to Bachelor Happy Hour nose. We just

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Speaker 1: love him, which is why I don't even want to

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Speaker 1: like he really gives it as all. So, okay, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, let's just bring on mister Rick, because I've

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Speaker 1: been dying to talk to this man. We've already raved

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Speaker 1: about you. I mean, you have been a fan favorite,

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Speaker 1: You've been our personal favorite since night one. Not everyone

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Speaker 1: ten out of ten I would recommend. So we're just

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Speaker 1: so excited to have you on. Welcome to Batchlor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: How have you been since all this craziness. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. It's been nuts. It's an adjustment for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's funny like seeing it that kind of thing. It's

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Speaker 1: good to be here though, and just trying to I made.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of great memories ever made, I say

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Speaker 1: great to look back at it and just thinking about

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Speaker 1: all the good moments that and good memories and good

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Speaker 1: M Well, you know, we'll take it back to the

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Speaker 1: very beginning. But first I want to say, I mean

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Speaker 1: we were very sad to see so sad, so sad.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was there in person, and I was sad.

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Speaker 1: You don't know this, but Caitlyn and I hide behind

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Speaker 1: just it's it's very emotional being there with you guys

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Speaker 1: and um, but your journey was absolutely incredible and we

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Speaker 1: So we're excited to talk to you today. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was fun, and I appreciate the support. Honestly, it's great

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Speaker 1: to hear them. I wish we saw more of you

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Speaker 1: get to know y'all. Honestly, Well, thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: But there's plenty of things you can search. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's enough that we've made somewhere else. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you know this Potatio actually as a whole season,

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Speaker 1: very true, very exactly exactly, always holler we can all

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Speaker 1: be friends. Sounds good. One thing I want to take

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Speaker 1: who was definitely there for the right reasons, which it's

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Speaker 1: not always the case. So take it back. How did

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Speaker 1: she's precious, she's got beautiful lives, she's cute. But I'm

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Speaker 1: asking you this because I feel like one of the producers,

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Speaker 1: it up, but obviously it was better for the rest

432
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: of us, give us, all the rest of us a

433
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: better opportunity to get to know her and and see

434
00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: where our relationships go. I want to ask you one

435
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: more question, then I want to move away from Jamie

436
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: because we want to get to know you, because we

437
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: love you. We have so much money talk to you

438
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 1: about Jamie the only way, the only last question I

439
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: have in regards to the whole Jamie situation is, you know,

440
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: obviously we saw Michelle just right then and there kind

441
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 1: of cut ties sent him home. But since then, has

442
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: he I know that there's a group chat with all

443
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: the men, like I know that y'all chat all the time,

444
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 1: has he apologized to anyone for how his actions took

445
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: away from time spent with Michelle and for kind of

446
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: ruining a lot. It's already smirking at any point expressed

447
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: any sort of apology or emotion in regards to that situation.

448
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do you think he did

449
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, hell no, but I want to

450
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: be laughing. What I do see happening is now very

451
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: shortly mental ill will come up and he will do

452
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: this whole, big public apology for everybody to see on display.

453
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he has said anything to anyone directly

454
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: apologizing for that. Well. I don't think he's gonna apologize

455
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: at all. I think he thinks he did no wrong.

456
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: And I think he knows that people know that we

457
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: filmed so much content and obviously it has been to ours,

458
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: so he know. He's I think, gonna allude to that

459
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: in having certain parts to be cut out. I think

460
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: he thinks that he can convince people that you know

461
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,239
Speaker 1: that he did no wrong. He he thinks he can

462
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: talk his way out of anything, and he showed that

463
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: when he got caught out because he went answer anybody's question.

464
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: That was my biggest issue with him. I was like,

465
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: up to this point, you would ask, you would answer

466
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: anybody's question, no matter if you thought you your answer

467
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: was gonna be appealing or not, you know, to who

468
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: you're speaking to. But then he went answer any questions.

469
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, so you know you're

470
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: in trouble then, you know, I just think I think

471
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: he's a he's a very smart guy and I but

472
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: I think he needs I think he needs to be

473
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: honest at some point in time with himself, you know.

474
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: I think he needs to take responsibility, like, hey, like

475
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: I did this, and yes, I might manipulate some information

476
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: of how I portrayed it to her, but I also think, like,

477
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be honest by your reasoning because like, I

478
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: don't think you were just trying to figure out if

479
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: they had a relationship. I think you were trying to

480
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: plan a seed. I think you were trying to, you know,

481
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: eliminate your competition. I think it got started when he

482
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: didn't get the group. They rose. He was like, Okay,

483
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: maybe I don't have this in bagging in his mind, right,

484
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: So I think, like, you know, I think he wanted

485
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he runs his own company, so he wants

486
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: to be in control of things. I think he wants to,

487
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, know, everything that's going on, that kind of thing,

488
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: and once you're playing a completely different dynamic, you start

489
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: to freak out inside your head, I think, and I

490
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: think that's what happened with him. I don't think he's

491
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: a bad guy. I don't because like a bad guy,

492
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: I don't think we'd have opened up about some of

493
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: the family stuff. But I think I think he made

494
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: bad decision, and um, I don't think he's gonna apologize.

495
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: Is basically the final answer to what you asked originally.

496
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's gonnapologized And I don't think

497
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: he feels like he owes anybody an apology. He just

498
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: owns what he did, like and he thinks he did

499
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: no wrong. And I think I think he thinks he's

500
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: he's a victim, narcissist, Okay, moving on. It's just it's

501
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: just sad because it hurt people, you know what I mean.

502
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean he has it's kind of clich but hurt people,

503
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: hurt people. But like he's just gone through things in life,

504
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: and I feel like maybe he's trying to protect himself

505
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: and really trying to give himself like that upper hand.

506
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: But you don't do that by bringing other people down,

507
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's kind of you

508
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: to say that he's not a bad person, because essentially

509
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a bad person. I just think, yeah,

510
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: he has a bad decision and a bad moment for him. Yeah.

511
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes this stuff brings up the worst in you, honestly. Yeah,

512
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: we saw other people too. Yeah. Well yeah, the environment

513
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: it's it's tough to live in to begin with. It's

514
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: not normal by any means, and it really brings out

515
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: a lot of different emotions, and it's just yeah, I

516
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting to see him at mental to

517
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: see how he handles everything, because it's like you can

518
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: only talk in circles for so long. We all saw

519
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: how it played out on the screen. I would just

520
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: hope that, like as a viewer, he did take away

521
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: from a lot of all of your time with Michelle

522
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: and just Michelle's overall state of emotion, like the level

523
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: that she was at, and that was the unfortunate thing

524
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: where I would hope that he could step outside and

525
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: be like, maybe he didn't think he did anything wrong,

526
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: but it's right. An apology is not going to hurt

527
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: by any means. Let's fingers crossed from mental All, yeah,

528
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. What's gonna be Rick, Let's yeah, let's

529
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: talk about you, because yes, some people don't have didn't

530
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: have like the best run of the show, But honey,

531
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: you had a one on one with Michelle, and I

532
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: think it was just so beautiful to watch and I

533
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: would love to know. Let's just talk all about it.

534
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: What was your favorite part about the day portion of

535
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: your guys's date, which I feel was like so fun

536
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: and lighthearted and you both needed it. Yeah, I think

537
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: just being outside with her and just I think what

538
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: I loved about the day is how simple it was.

539
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: We didn't need anything extra, we didn't need anything crazy

540
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: during the day portion, like you know, to have a

541
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: good time with each other. I think it was as

542
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: close as we could get to like real life outside

543
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: of that bubble or whatever you want to call it,

544
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: and giving us the idea of what dated you know,

545
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: with each other would be like. And I think we

546
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: got to know each other for who we are, not

547
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: just like who we look like we are, you know,

548
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: just the top top level with the surface level kind

549
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: of of what makes us us. And yeah, I loved it,

550
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: like we can enjoy the small moments with each other.

551
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: And that's why I want and my person. It's like

552
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: I want to enjoy those small months, those small months

553
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: and more important than the fancy moments or the big moments,

554
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: you know. And I think like it's just the small

555
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: talk to be able to choke around with try, the

556
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: ability just to enjoy hiking together, and oh I want

557
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. I want to just enjoy the

558
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: simple things in life with my person. And um, I

559
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: love that about it, just being with each other outside

560
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: in nature. It was this is Yeah, it's a memory

561
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: I'll have for the rest of my life for sure.

562
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: I personally, I love like simple dates like that as

563
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: opposed to like the big grand ones because like again,

564
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: you really get to know the person for the person

565
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: as opposed to the activity. Um. And I think that

566
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: that's one thing that I took what you can feel

567
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: like in my season like it was just so you

568
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: had real conversations. Then, so I agree with you. Like

569
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: a simple, laid back date you actually can see if

570
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: it works in a day day life as opposed to

571
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: let's go skydat. Well, I kind of blacked out, you know,

572
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: like the adrenaline of that, but I don't know, I

573
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: really love the simple days. Mm well, and and I've

574
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: said this before, it was such a good combination of fun,

575
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: light heartedness mixed with those you did get into some

576
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: heavy conversations and one of the I think what maybe

577
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: was the catalyst for really getting into everything that night

578
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: between the two of you was you guys made a

579
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: wish that you would find love through having hard conversations.

580
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: How hard was it for you to open up with

581
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: Michelle and you know, the rest of the world now

582
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: as you found out, you know, because millions of people

583
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: are watching to have those hard conversations with each other.

584
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: And also you know, like while it's all being filmed, Yeah,

585
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: it's I'll be honest, I've never opened up that much

586
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: to someone I think so quickly. Obviously it's a different

587
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: experience that kind of thing. But I've never opened up

588
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: about some of those things I spoke about or with

589
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: a significant odor. And how Michelle is I think we

590
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: all talked about is when no matter how nervous you

591
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: are before you sit down with her, um, you you

592
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: just you're you feel completely at ease once you sit down,

593
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: and she just makes it easy to talk with her

594
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: because she listens so well She doesn't listen just to respond.

595
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: She listens to understand, and that's it's a big thing,

596
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: and it's it's not a skill that everyone knows. I

597
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: think her has learned and talk with her about my

598
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: family and stuff like that. Like the goal for me

599
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: is I wanted to be completely transparent with her and

600
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: to open up completely. Need to give us the best

601
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to see if it is meant to be between us,

602
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: and I wonder to know like that I come back.

603
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: I come from like a different background, different family background

604
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: than she does. Her parents are still together, which is amazing.

605
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: I think it's been thirty three years or something like that.

606
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: She said, yea, and my family or my parents were

607
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: together for the twenty three years before they split up.

608
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: But um, it's it. I just wanted I'm a person

609
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: that tries to learn both from my good experiences and

610
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: my bad experiences. And I think that's another thing I

611
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: was trying expressed her is like, even though my parents

612
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: didn't work out, I wanted to make every snack Fris

613
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: possible for the person I'm gonna be with and to

614
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: make it work, you know, to the good times in

615
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: the bad. And I also wanted her to know that

616
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: I can be completely transparent with her like that was

617
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: not something easy for me to talk about, as you

618
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: can tell by my sudden whispering all of a sudden,

619
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: I was trying to get the words out, you know,

620
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: and just I had a hard time finding the breath

621
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: to like get some of that stuff out. But at

622
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: least it was still audio loud enough for people to hear.

623
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I think you could tell I'm having

624
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: a hard time expressing those things. But again, I needed

625
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: to be complete, honest, because if we're gonna have a

626
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: chance at making it, I she needs to know everything.

627
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: And that's how I thought about it. And I'm glad

628
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: I said it out loud because I don't think I've

629
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: said some most things even out loud before. Yeah, and

630
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: it helps me to hear it and be like, that's

631
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: what I actually think, that's what I actually believe. And

632
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think the best thing about it is

633
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: having has Maybe people will reach out to me after

634
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: they saw that and just share similar experiences and things

635
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: like that, and I've tried to reach out or respond

636
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: to most of them as much as I can and

637
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: just be like, you know, I'm just happy that I

638
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: show that talking with about it, about that kind of

639
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: stuff I think really helps. I think you're like, for me,

640
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: it helps me get through it and just I think

641
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: move on to the next steps in my life, get

642
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: out there. But also for other people too, like having

643
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: other people that you can communicate that with, like you

644
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: just get to get out there. And even that person

645
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: doesn't receive it, well, at least you got it off

646
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: your chest and you said it out loud, because it

647
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: helps you even deal with it just yourself, just by

648
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: saying out loud, I thing I think it's so important

649
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: to say too, just because I feel like watching it back,

650
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, like, how did that feel

651
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: actually believing that from yourself, because you said you have

652
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: said the things that you haven't even like shared with

653
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: other people before. It's if that's one thing about this

654
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: entire journey experience that really impacts you personally, like how

655
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: freeing it could actually be and how much you actually

656
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: grow as a person. But feeling all those things and

657
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: when you're able to be vulnerable like that, not only

658
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: does it help you inside, but it helps that relationship

659
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: and you want to be able to feel like you

660
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: gave it your all and like you actually gave it

661
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: a shot, and I thought that was just it was

662
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: really hard to watch, But that's so beautiful at the

663
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: same time, and I'm so sorry for everything, you know,

664
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: but that that was amazing and you're a great guy.

665
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, I think like what

666
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: you said, the thing I feel most is like it's free. One,

667
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: it frees yourself from kind of those those thoughts and

668
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: those things that have been stuck in your head for

669
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: at so long. But also I think it's free in

670
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: regards to the relationship. Once you get that out there,

671
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: it gives you a step or an opportunity to make

672
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: that next step or take that next step forward with

673
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: each other I think, and just allowing each other to

674
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: know each other on a deeper level. And so it's

675
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: freeing out a lot of ways. I'm going to kind

676
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: of go off topic a bit and get a little

677
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: bit heavy, but I feel like this can be very

678
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: beneficial to a lot of listeners. So you got into

679
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: your history with your family and the death of your

680
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: father and kind of that guilt that you felt. And

681
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: I know just from experience as well, from losing a

682
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: parent sometimes grief and death and really hard, difficult situations

683
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: in life help bond people, and I've experienced that firsthand

684
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: since my time on the bach Rod and sharing about

685
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: the death with my father. But I think our listeners

686
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: would like to hear from you, Like, what is some

687
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: advice that you could give listeners who have gone through

688
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: a death of a parent or something similar, or people

689
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: who are struggling with the guilt over losing a parent.

690
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, because I can relate much to that too,

691
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: What is some advice that you would be able to

692
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: give to them? Because I know, you know, I'm sure

693
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: you've witnessed it firsthand and DMS people are reaching out

694
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: to you, but I think it can just spread so

695
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: much farther than that. So what is anything that you

696
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: would be able to offer to our listeners. Yeah, when

697
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: my dad passed a few years ago, I had a

698
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: hard time going out doing anything, sets work and like

699
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: being in my room. I think you're in this hand

700
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: with my dog. But I would say that's probably not

701
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: the right approach. I would say making sure that you

702
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: have your support group, your people around you, and that

703
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: you're having conversations. It doesn't have to be about the

704
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: person that you lost. For that kind of thing. But

705
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: I think just continue that communication with people because that's

706
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: going to help you kind of take those next steps

707
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: to moving on. And you shouldn't feel guilty about moving on.

708
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: You can always keep that person in your mind. I

709
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: think some of that. I think at first, anytime I

710
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: try to move on and things like that, I felt

711
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: some type of guilt because I always want to remember

712
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: the people that helped me become who I am. And

713
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: so I think your support group and the people that

714
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: you care about, have those people around you have conversations with.

715
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be easy to have conversations, but you

716
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: gotta go out of your way to have those conversations.

717
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: I also think, like I'm someone that likes to type

718
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: out my thoughts, so like I have a we're docked

719
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: out right about what I'm thinking, that kind of stuff.

720
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: But it's good to get that off your head instead

721
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: of just leaving in your head. It allows you to

722
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: reflect on your thoughts and reflect it's a positive, negative,

723
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: or where you're going. If it keeps going in a

724
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: negative direction, that's when you need to like talk to

725
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: other people too. But I think reflection is a very

726
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: powerful tool. You can reflect on the person's life that

727
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: you lost, but also I think just on your thoughts

728
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: to that person and how you can move on, what

729
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: you need to do and things like that. But support

730
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: group and just finding ways to get those thoughts out

731
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: of your head and express them in some way or form,

732
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: I think is a really powerful tool. I just thank

733
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: you so much for sharing this. I know what's going

734
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: to mean a lot to a lot of our listeners

735
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: and people, like I said, people going through similar things

736
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: and playing off of what he should just said a

737
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: few seconds ago, like I, it has to be so

738
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: hard for you to have opened up in the way

739
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: that you did, but it was also such a beautiful

740
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: thing and had to have been such a difficult thing.

741
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: And so thank you for that because I know it's

742
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: going to help so many people feel like they're not alone.

743
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: You know, Bache Nation, we have some really strong fans

744
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: out there who all go through different things, and to

745
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: have them, you know, maybe be able to relate in

746
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: some way or to see different hardships and feel like,

747
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, oh, I felt this way at some point

748
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: in time and I felt alone or I felt like

749
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: my grief would you know, would consume me whatever it

750
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: might be. So thank you so much, and that's why

751
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: when we raved about you a couple of weeks ago,

752
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to get you on. But I'm

753
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: so glad that that's why we have you on right

754
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: now because it's just it's special. And of course, you know,

755
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: the show is supposed to be fun and like heart

756
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: at half the time, but it's moments like this where

757
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: we see like the real human and that we're all

758
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, we can all relate in some way, So

759
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. It's all so much

760
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: more relatable than people think. We all can learn better

761
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: that people, and it takes just an active courage just

762
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: to speak out that really confined us all together. What

763
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: were you going to say? That's just gonna say. I

764
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: think the most powerful or the most rewarding thing and

765
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: my life that I've ever experienced. It's like when I've

766
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: been able to help other people and I think like

767
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: that this was I didn't think of it like that

768
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: when I was expressing myself, but in fact that has

769
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: helped people, or if it is going to help people,

770
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: like I'm mis thankful that it's going to do that,

771
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: and it's it helps me feel better about that whole

772
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: thing because you know, I think in my life, like

773
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: I think that's the main goals, like help us make

774
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: people as possible, or just like helping be happier, you know,

775
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: help people achieve success. I think that should be a

776
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: goal that people should try to achieve once in their

777
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: life because I think they'll realize how much how rewarding

778
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: is and that feeling that you get. So people can

779
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: find that, I think it makes your life that much

780
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: more worthwhile. Oh I'm such a Rick fan. You're making

781
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: fun start off right now? What are you doing with me?

782
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: We can talk for worries again. I was just gonna say.

783
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Also the fact that you're a man talking about those

784
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: steps too, like being vulnerable about it. I think that's

785
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: like huge. You know, Rick, I don't cry, and you're

786
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: making me tear up for the second time on this podcast.

787
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, No, I just listen. I ric for

788
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: Bachelor at some point in time or live on stage

789
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: with me so we can find you a nice woman

790
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: because you deserve it, Like you're there's just you're so mature.

791
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: You obviously have this fun, quirky, lighthearted side to you

792
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: that we saw night one, but it's just like you're

793
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: just like you, and I don't know how how old

794
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: are you? Actually? Oh my god, I was just gonna

795
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: say the saving old thirty two? Okay, okay, such a

796
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: good head on your shoulders. So I mean, hey, Rick,

797
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: if you're singling a little bit, we're going to set

798
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: you up with some nice woman. I have a lot

799
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: of single friends, wonderful women back in there, if you

800
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: ever want to meet them. I'm sure you're probably not

801
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: at a loss for media women these days. Should we

802
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: just get into the game, because I feel like we

803
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: got really just for a second. Yes, yes, but let's

804
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, let's pick it back up to end with

805
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: the bang, because this has been so wonderful to have

806
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: you on. But we love to play our games with

807
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: all of our guests. But before that, we have one

808
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: question that we ask everyone who joins the podcast, and

809
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: that is, overall your entire time on the season, what

810
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: was your rose and what was your thorn? So like,

811
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: as an experience, you think, for yeah, like a highlight

812
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: and a low light. Your your favorite moment, and then

813
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: you know a moment that you could have maybe lived without. Uh.

814
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: I think when Michelle and I were dancing in front

815
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: of any Grammar too long songs like that was where

816
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: like time just stopped, you know, and you don't get

817
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: me those moments in life, And that was definitely my

818
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: roads for sure, and I'll remember that moment. Yeah, that

819
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: whole day honestly, uh, probably the best day I've ever found.

820
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: So definitely I remember that for the rest of my life.

821
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: But Thorn, I would say, um, I think, like, so

822
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: the one thing that I think years don't see enough

823
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: is how close some of the guys get. And I

824
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: think like losing some of the guys. So Spencer was

825
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: my roommate U in um when we're in California and

826
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: then um, so Spencer, like even like Spencer Daniel or

827
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: like Leroy and Casey and a handful of other guys.

828
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: Like seeing some of these guys leaves like you don't

829
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: see them for however long afterwards. And I think that's

830
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: my thorn is like as much as we're there for Michelle,

831
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: you still build friendships and like those kind of things.

832
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: So I think like seeing those people like, I think

833
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: my biggest hurt that you can have in life, it

834
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: like for me, it has been seen people you care

835
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: about goes through like pain and stuffing that you can't

836
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: help them with, you know, and that was like someone

837
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: with my dad. But like, that's how I felt when

838
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: the guys left, because they were sad they're leaving, and

839
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: you can't do anything, like you're powerless. So I think

840
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: that thorn is like just seeing people like care about

841
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Michelle going home and can't do anything to help him.

842
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: I think like losing some of your friends at the

843
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: same time that you know your ultimate goal is like

844
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: being with Michelle and that kind of thing, but like

845
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: losing some of the guys, that's the thorn. I think,

846
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: like losing guys as you go because you're happy you're

847
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: moving on, but you also see your friends go like that.

848
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: It's like a It's a bitter sweet almost and much

849
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: leave it to Rick to have his thorn be something

850
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: so beautiful and positive for somebody else. I love that.

851
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: I love that so much. Um oh my gosh, Rick,

852
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: this has been such a blast. Before we let you go,

853
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into this game. So Tasha, you want

854
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: to explain it? Yes, okay, So we are going to

855
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: play a little game where we're gonna give you a

856
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: most likely too and you'll finish the sentence with the

857
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: name of someone in your guys. Group of guys, Michelle,

858
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: scroup of guys. So, and it's gonna be rapid fire.

859
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: Can't thank too much. It's fun. Don't worry. Y'all have

860
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: to cut it under the bus. So don't try to

861
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: act like I know right, Let's just do it. Okay

862
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: you ready? Yes? Okay? So. Most likely to get the

863
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: party started, Nate okay, okay. Most likely to start drama, uh, Jamie.

864
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Most likely to get the guys laughing. Ronnie, he's been

865
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: most guys, say Roger everyone, probably the best human on

866
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: NERD time. Just give the ward now. We're also were

867
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: huge Rodney fans over here in a happy hour two?

868
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: I like this next one? Who is most likely to

869
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: leave their wallet at home? Spencer? Next um. Most likely

870
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: to start a dance party, Roy, He's gone that one

871
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: too a couple of times. I heard he's a really

872
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: incredible dancer. So I want to see the moves from

873
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: we were he has moves he was doing. Who is

874
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: most likely to cheat to win a group date? Cheat

875
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: to win a group date? Yeah? Oh wow? Cheat the crupcy. Uh.

876
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm thinking this, but maybe, oh okay,

877
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: he's competitive. Maybe he did take off his shirt during

878
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: the rest of the No. No, it would be Peter

879
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: for sure. I don't know why I didn't think that

880
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: would be Peter, sir, it would be Peter. I mean

881
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: we saw what happened with the chairs, you know, the chairs,

882
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: So someone almost lost someone's almost lost hands playing musical chairs,

883
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: which is the first, very intense. Okay. Most likely to

884
00:44:54,200 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: steal Michelle first at a cocktail party h Amy as well,

885
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: probably hmm okay. Most likely to skinny dip in the

886
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: pool Martin maybe question, Oh, okay, that's good. Most likely

887
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: to go to bed first met you, I once, says Joe.

888
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: Usually even Joe said, but I should have thought about that,

889
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: But like I love sleep, like I don't mind going

890
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: to bed earlier. I love sleep. Okay. If I haven't

891
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: heard a more relatable quote, I don't know what would

892
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: be it. Literally. Most likely to never milk a cow again.

893
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: Oh please me, please me. I hope not like my grandfather.

894
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: I grew up with cow arms, but it was more

895
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: for like meat. It wasn't for like milking cows. But yeah,

896
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: after it's seeing like all of us going through milking

897
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: the cows and then seeing the guy I just do like,

898
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm not like he killed all of us in regards

899
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: to how he did it, but I just don't want

900
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: milk a cow. Gang Like you also have to worry

901
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: about getting sun? Yeah, like that's not great. Yeah, so

902
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: I hope to God it's me? Is it so fun?

903
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: Is it weird that I want? I have to admit this.

904
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I have never milked a cow, and I oddly really

905
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: want to. Why. I just sorry after watching Rodney do,

906
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I could not. She was hilarious while making

907
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: a cow, But I just I have no desire. I

908
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: just it's always something that's but on my bucket list

909
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: that I've never done. And I feel like it's very

910
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: easy to make a cabin and I just have not

911
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: done it. I mean, okay, well we'll tell Thomas. I

912
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: think I think I just want to try the milk,

913
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: like the fresh milk. I'm not even I don't even

914
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: like milk. I just want to, like, you know, the

915
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: fruits of the labor. Okay, last last question taken away,

916
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: change the subject on the milk. Okay. Most likely to

917
00:46:54,719 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: be a groomsman in your wedding, let's go with uh

918
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: Leroy Spencer, Casey Daniel. You got a full bridal party

919
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: right there. I think Jamari probably too and Will maybe

920
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: uh and Brandon, we'll put like a large list that is,

921
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: that is a big bridal party. I like it. But

922
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: I like that you're so close with all of them. Yeah,

923
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: I actually really love the guys, uh, and so, like

924
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: when I left the show, like before I left, obviously

925
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: ton of Michelle, Like that's why Toronto said, like one

926
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: of these guys definitely gonna make you happy because and

927
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: the guys are good group guys, and I think it

928
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: shows Applaud's kind of the person that Michelle is because

929
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: she had a bunch of great guys there and so

930
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, actually like the guys are great U. Yeah,

931
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: So I don't think I could limit to this one.

932
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: I love that you said that that that's something that

933
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: to this day, I still like, I would tell anyone

934
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: who wants to apply and go on the show, like

935
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: do it, because you will make some incredible lasting friendships.

936
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: And you know, unfortunately, as you said, they're not always

937
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: shown and no one will ever be able to understand

938
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: like the gravity of just like how close so quickly

939
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: you get, but it's very special. So I love that

940
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: you're so close with all of them. You know. I

941
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: know I mentioned mental all is coming up, so I'm

942
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: sure we'll see you very soon there and I just

943
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: can't wait to see more of you. But huge thank

944
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: you for being here today because I know you know

945
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: we're taking time out of your day, but just to

946
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: have been able to share your story a bit more

947
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: and give advice and you know, give us some behind

948
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: the scenes is what we all wants as listeners to

949
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: this podcast. So thank you, Rake. We hope to see

950
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: you very soon. You too, and I appreciate you all

951
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: all right, take care. Oh my gosh, I am obsessed

952
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: with Rick even more now. He is just he just

953
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: seems like such a good dude with such a big heart.

954
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: So I know I said it Rake for Bachelor one day.

955
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: If nothing else, we just have to find him a

956
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: great partner in life. He just he's incredible. So huge

957
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: thank you to Rake, and an even bigger thank you

958
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: to all of our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. Thank you

959
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: for being here with us again today, and please make

960
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: sure to hit us up on social if you don't

961
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: already do that. You can find us at badge Oor

962
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: Happy Hour on Instagram, at Badge Nation on TikTok and

963
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Twitter and then badge our nation on Facebook, and as always,

964
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: please don't forget to subscribe to our podcast. You can

965
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: do so on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, the Wonder app, or

966
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: wherever you were listening to us right now. Have a

967
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: good week everyone,